@@lunarscapes6016 Orchestras usually compose of multiple people playing the same instrument therefore playing the same notes just to add more depth to the sound.
@@koopasteve well yeah but like whether or not parts are covered by multiple people shouldn’t really affect how you look or feel when you conduct, so that comment from the director makes no sense
Or on a more serious note, I’d be interested in the opposite question “What’s the best note a director has given you?” It’d be fun to hear some actually good advice that big actors appreciated.
@@Bodyknock Gary Oldman said Christopher Nolan hardly gave him any notes apart for one scene for one of the Batman movies. Nolan told him "there's more at stake" or something similar and Oldman understood.
I acted for a little while, a note I got from a director was "That was good, but can you do it more up?", I replied "How do you mean up? As in energy, speed, tone?" "*mumble mumble* errr ya know just up". WTF am I meant to do with that?
The problem with a lot of these directions, that a lot of people in the comments don’t seem to understand, is that they’re not telling the actors why and/or how. You’re not just supposed to tell them faster / funnier etc., cause then they have to figure out what you, as the director, think that means.
@@fartmachine5000 Not for an actor. More energy as in what? In what way? What is my character thinking that is motivating the energy for this action? It really isn’t concise, it’s vague and will yield poor results in terms of the actor’s performance.
@@fartmachine5000 Not really helpful for feedback though. They're concise directions in the same way that telling them to hit their mark is a concise direction. LIke, I'm sure they can follow those directions, but actors tend to want to know if what they're doing is working for the characters or emotions they're trying to capture for the scene. When they're looking for notes, they want feedback on whether their performance is working on not, not to read words faster or slower. It's like the Saoirse Ronan example, she knows what they're doing, she's probably looking for a little more insight than that.
@@cwhitetkd Fincher? I doubt it was Tarantino considering he hasn't had Pitt choke anyone and insisted on choking Diane Kruger (after her consent) for Inglorious Bastards.
In fairness, "more energy" for Dakota Johnson is very valid and could've been given to her on literally any of her movies. She has the energy level and delivery of a dead fish.
She's literally the most lifeless and monotone yet inexplicably successful actor, that note absolutely makes sense lol. She sounds like she's been doped to the gills with Xanax in Madame Web 😅 Most nepo babies are at least very good actors and can do the work, not so much in her case
@@SonGoku-tp8gb I don't think she took it as a personal attack. The vague note just touched on something she struggles with, which means it was double-hard to follow without clear direction. The whole joke was that she died inside because it's hard for her to appear energetic. A little too self-deprecating to read as offended.
And then you have multiple people saying that "faster" is the worst note they've ever gotten despite it being one word that tells them everything they need to know.
@@thejimmymeister It's my honor and pleasure to introduce you to the idea of a Paradox, Jimmy: two apparent opposites of truth that are, yet, simultaneously, true. Faster is not a performance. An actor needs to know their motivation. Faster tells them nothing. More than a sentence, and the director probably doesn't know the motivation.
@dontfiguremeout Faster is a direction. Directions are what the director gives. Performances aren't what the director gives; they are what the actor gives. An actor might need to know his motivation (although he might not-there are actors who turn in great performances without worrying about "motivation"), but a director does not because the director is not the one giving the performance. The direction "faster" tells the actor one thing, namely, that they need to speak faster. By the way, I know it's a paradox. That's why I pointed it out. I think highlighting the dichotomy, as I did, tells us something about how difficult directing can be.
To me the "do the same thing again" makes sense because maybe the performance was fine, but the director noticed a better camera angle or there was some fault unrelated to the actor's performance 🤔 also it makes sense to get two good takes, especially if in cutting the movie they need to combine the two takes etc
@@backtoklondike Or maybe the actor can consider there are a thousand considerations on a set that are not about them and just do as they're asked without judgement.
Was doing a play once and my character was a Romanian Orthodox Jew who sold fabric in 1905. I kid you not after one of our first run throughs the director stops and goes “ummmm. Yeah that was great… ummmm.. do you think you could make him feel a little more sexier.” 🙃
Clearly, sexiness is everything I look for in Romanian Orthodox Jews who sell fabric in 1905. How can you think of literally anything else when given that description?!
This. Unlike a lot of people in this comment section, I actually think Dakota Johnson is a fine actress - she’s just not someone with a lot of range. If you hire her, it should have a purpose.
Dakota is a nepo baby which gives her connections and power. I'm bringing that up because many directors get forced by the studio into hiring actors that they don't really want.
0:27 Telling a gay actor to “do it less gay”… the homophobia is so real. My heart fucking breaks for Jonathan Groff and every gay actor in the industry. That’s like telling a non-white person to “do it less [their ethnicity].”
It's not really like boxing because the boxer is always trying to hit the guy some more. Actors are not always trying to maximize the zaniness. Additionally, problem with the actor complaining about a "be funnier" note is that when the director actually tells the actor how to be funnier, often the actor gets insulted because figuring out how to act funny is _their_ job, yet on the other hand apparently just saying it's not good enough (funny enough) yet and letting the actor figure it out is also a bad note. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Just because a person is in a position of authority, doesn't mean they KNOW HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE.... I've encountered this several times throughout my life...
i think what the director may have meant was that in a symphony it feels like everyones doing their own thing instead of following a harmony. then you ust have a few random notes instead of a well written piece.
The worst thing a director ever said to me that had me so confused was “touch the chair like you’re nervous “ but after the take he said I was “touching the chair like I was nervous.” I just stood there so confused.
Best/worst I received was “could you be a little more…unhinged?” I asked “Am I….was I being unhinged just now?” “No, but can you do it more?” Okay 😅 It was a completely mundane dinner scene and we soon realized the director was just sort of making it up and changing the script as we went along.
I love hearing David Fincher’s directions like doing the opening scene of The Social Network, which they did 99 takes of. “Cut. Not even close. Let’s go again.” 🤣
If mentioning less Jerry and more Dean, than I would think it's safe to assume Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. I haven't watched in a minute, so I guess there could be a Dean to Jerry Seinfeld. I actually don't recall
If "faster" or "slower" is their worst note it means they have worked with good directors overall because that aint even bad for a note. Now the Chris Pine one, that one is actually bad 😂 i wonder who the director was
Honestly, I wonder if the reason Dakota said “more energy” was the worst note is because she’s aware of the fact that’s she’s famously low key energy and why would you hire her for the role if you wanted more than she is famous for. She’s a smart witty girl and I like to think this was her being playful and self aware with her answer. The fact she delivers the sentence with her trademark low key energy seems like a confirmation of this!
Often the director and casting director are different people, so the director most likely would have hired someone else. Probably not what an actor wants to hear though.
@@mae_liiiYeah, but you're still the one who has final say on who gets cast in the role tho 🤨 Casting directors aren't choosing actors completely seperate from what all the creative heads want (let alone without the film director's approval), that's not how that works 💀
The flip side to this is Gary Oldman was once asked what was the best note a director has ever given him. He said it was from Christopher Nolan who rarely gave him notes. All he said was ‘just remember, there’s more at stake here’, and Oldman instantly understood.
Kubrick told actors to “do that again” his whole career. The director has something in mind even with directions that don’t make sense to you. He just doesn’t wanna tell you cuz he knows you’re gonna annoy him with pointless retorts
@@goober479 Not really. Sometimes people slow down their speech for emphasis or effect, but it doesn't always come across as they intended. If a line would have been more effective if the actor sped up their speech, it's a pretty valid note.
Some actors come in thinking that speaking slowly gives their role gravitas but usually it just makes the take feel pretentious and lifeless. (I work on audio fiction with a lot of TV and Film actors)
I took an acting workshop and the instructor made me redo a monologue a million times in front of the entire class but could NOT pinpoint what exactly was wrong or how I could fix it. Like?? If you can’t articulate the problem is it that you don’t like me? 😂
Thing is, a director won't always tell an actor exact details, because they don't want the actor to think about the performance. Some can deliver a natural performance, others simply can't. Some actors keep it simple, while others like to go big and be theatrical. Ncolas Meyer famously got the performance he did out of William Shatner for Wrath of Khan by doing take after take until Shatner got bored and simply delivered the line.
I see how "Am I a good director?" is pretty bad, but I guess it's nice that they're maybe asking what can be interpreted as "Do you need anything? Do you feel like I'm describing what I want from you in a way that you understand and that you think makes sense? What's your opinion?"? It's pretty bad that it has to be interpreted, yes, if that's the gist of the encrypted meaning behind it, but yeah... You do the directing and please be confident enough in your abilities to well, DIRECT others of course
Murphy expands on it in the full clip, basically as the director you need to be fully assured, your job is to have no qualms about what you’re doing, if there’s something than the actor will bring it up
Sometimes just going "do the same thing again" is a way of exhausting the actor because you notice they're stuck in a shtick that you have to break through. That's how Nicholas Meyer directed Shatner in Wrath of Khan.
"Go faster" is a totally valid note. As a director, a crucial part of the job is to make sure that the film is well paced and doesn't drag. If the actors take their time with the scene, it can screw up the pace of the film. I dont think any actor who has actually directed would ever complain about it.
Yes, but "faster" is too vague a note. "Let's quicken the pace of the scene. You're nervous and scared that you'll be found out." "Excelent. Let's try a shorter pause after his speech." "Step on each others words a bit during the argument if you have to." "Your character has to be at this point on the stage/set 10 seconds after the fight breaks out. So you need make sure you time it just right." Specificity is always more appreciated.
@@digabledoug A lot of actors don't like being micromanaged that way. They'll be insulted if you try to tell them how to do their craft. Instead, just tell them what you need and let them work it out. If you've got a good relationship with them, they should know they can always ask you for more explanation, if need be. But then some other actors are the opposite (like the ones in this video), and always want details. You have to know which kind of actor you're dealing with, because they aren't all the same.
My first thought when they complained about being told to do it again was just that any number of technical issues occurred, and the the director just didn't bother blaming anyone. Could be out of consideration for the person, could just be out of consideration for time. Like, "we're not going to waste time sitting through Christian Bale ranting at a lighting guy, just do it again right now". The actor doesn't need to know that a rim light got kicked out of position.
This Dr. Dartagrian DiStifano guy looks cool and has a great voice. I feel like if you give him a role in a sci-fi movie, like Star Trek, let's say Captain Kirk, I think he would do wonders
He should have told the director. "NEWS FLASH! Instruments in an orchestra do NOT all play the same note! But you never played in an orchestra, have you?"
Actors dislike specific line readings in general because it feels mechanical to them. Kind of an unfortunate thing about the nature of the medium (lines need to be delivered a certain way or else they don't work), you can look up the Sopranos actors talking about it.
Telling an actor "faster" or "slower" doesn't work for them because they're trying to find the character and authentic emotions in their performance, not trying to hit a desired runtime for a scene. Finding the right pace for a movie is done on the page and in the editing room.
@@thetramp123 that's nice in theory, but on the set the technicalities of pacing within a scene are always an issue. Faster and slower are totally valid directions for most actors in most situations. Usually the beats and motivations of the scene are already established and these directions are finishing touches. There are many approaches to acting and some can deal with these external directions better than others.
@GrizzlyHands When you're reading this saying 'do it faster' you won't know what you should do faster. That's why that director note is not a specific note on what they should achieve in the next take. They need to give specific notes on what they should do to achieve a faster space for the take to be able to adjust.
Leonard Rossiter told a story about a bad director who once had a young actress in floods of tears. She asked the director what she needed to do and he said "Go away and be better".
When I was in college, I heard a guest director tell another actor that she needed to play her character as if she were "a cosmic ray." At one notes session, the director of the theatre program, who knew me well enough to know that it was frustrating me no end not to be able to tell this guy where to shove his comments that were confusing cast and crew more than they were helping them, slipped me a note that read, "You work with bad directors so you can appreciate the good ones."
The problem is, actors are thinking about characters as people, directors have to take that misconception and create story characters out of it. Like "funnier" is fairly simple, you have to misdirect until the punchline, but the actor wants motivation for that. They're not thinking about what's on screen.
I giggle at the thought of any director trying to give Dakota Johnson constructive feedback. Dude, you're not going to turn her into Amy Adams. She's just there for eye candy.
Honestly, the worst "note" I've ever gotten from a director is silence. They just expect you to telepathically know what they want. TV directors are the WORST for this. It's like they're scared of actors or something. I'd much rather hear "faster" than do 38 takes with zero feedback.
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Nearly all of these are fair notes. Actors fail to realize that they are the cashiers of the film world, entirely replaceable by someone from a soap, commercial, or local theater production. There's always talent out there in that pool. Not so for a good director- they are hard to find. So when one gets to the top level, respect them. It's THEIR picture. Eastwood has it right. No rehearsals- it's on the actor to be prepared and "get it" BEFORE shooting starts. If you can't get it right in one or two takes, you're not a true professional and you're wasting everyone's time.
It's hard to find good actors as well. Many think that they could do it, but their first16 hours day would not end well. Every director is different. Some provide a lot of direction. Not typically in TV because the show runner takes precedence. Directors are for hire per episode. I'm sure that there are many replaceable people in many jobs. Not just show biz.
A director on an instructional DVD I was shooting told me after a take: Those were some of the words on the script. Now try saying all of them. Dude is now legit one of my best friends.
It's the "That was wonderful" that preceded the note that makes it bad. Because how could it have been wonderful if it wasn't believable? So presumably the "wonderful" bit was sarcasm, which makes the director seem like a dick.
The worst not I’ve gotten from a director might be “I loved the way you said that line. Keep saying it like that.”. Once that’s verbalized, you can never recreate it.
As a musician, I see nothing wrong with "faster" and "slower" and "more energy." A movie, like music, flows at a certain tempo, and I would imagine that for seasoned actors a mechanical note like that is more helpful than "remember when your first pet died" or "this is a chess game and you're about to take his queen" or whatever.
It depends on the context, but yeah, those last ones are all equally annoying. Ironically, a veteran Canadian stage legend at the Shaw Festival once told a director, "I take four notes: faster, slower, louder, quieter."
true, but sometimes that's exactly why they don't like that note, because they know making it faster or slower would hurt the scene. Sometimes, directors don't feel the scene as well as the people in it, which is bad directing. I'm not a professional actor, but I was once in a play, and our director told us to try the scene in slow-mo.... it was a horror-drama, so, uuuuh... why? And she was like "JUST TRY IT ALREADY" and we tried it and, yes, it was as shit as we knew it would be, but she "liked" it (we could see she wasn't convinced, but admitting so would hurt her ego, so she wanted us to go with it). Everyone in the audience afterwards said "Wow, I loved that play, except that weird slo-mo... like, what was that?". So, yeah, directors and actors have to be in agreement regarding a scene's speed, otherwise it might just seem off. It's a team effort after all
I’ve done coaching for both actors and musicians and one note that I’ve given that I have found effective for both is “do what you think is way too much. Forget everything you’ve learned about taste and restraint and just embarrass yourself.” Those ALWAYS turn out to be the best performances.
@@jdj830 Yeah, I've done (as a stage in rehearsal) do your worst performance, what you're afraid is the worst overacting. It turns out to be really useful with Shakespeare. It's generally too big for an actual performance, but it's really freeing to just go too far and do what you fear.
Knew a civic theater director who used to say, "Connect!" over and over again without ever expounding on what he felt that word meant for him. He'd just keep spouting, "Connect! Con-NECCCT!! ConeeeeecctttTT!" repeatedly, sometimes while holding his thumb, forefinger and middle finger together for emphasis and jerking his hand in the air. Impossible to tell what the guy was talking about.
Making Full Metal Jacket Kubrick was doing his usual 30+ takes of a scene. And one of the actors blurted out to the other actors “Man, what does he WANT?” And Kubrick had his eye on the eyepiece of the camera, and just moved his head away from it for a second to lean over and say “How ‘bout better acting?” And went back to looking in the camera. 🤣
@ With The Shining I know he did loads of takes because he knew the actors would do abnormal things and it would create a unique energy for a horror film. And he was right.
Dakota Johnson's energy is probably one of the better things about that trainwreck tbh. It at least gives what is otherwise a complete mess a little personality.
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“More energy” Dakota said with absolutely no energy
That was either her being her, or she may have been impersonating the director?
I bet she gets that note a lot.
she died inside, out of lack of energy
@@ChristianComito-e7d just her being her, she sounds like she wants to unalive herself whenever I’ve seen her in an interview
😂😂
“It’s like you’re conducting an orchestra, but everyone’s playing different notes” BRUTAL 😭😭
That’s how an orchestra works 💀. Like when you ever be conducting an orchestra that is all playing the same notes
@@lunarscapes6016 Orchestras usually compose of multiple people playing the same instrument therefore playing the same notes just to add more depth to the sound.
@@koopasteve well yeah but like whether or not parts are covered by multiple people shouldn’t really affect how you look or feel when you conduct, so that comment from the director makes no sense
Now do the opposite. Ask directors what's the stupidest request made by actors. Lol
@@rayawira it will probably just be a list of every actor asking for another take or telling the director to use another camera angle 😂
@@ANGELOFDARKification “change this line”
That list would probably be really long..
Or on a more serious note, I’d be interested in the opposite question “What’s the best note a director has given you?” It’d be fun to hear some actually good advice that big actors appreciated.
@@Bodyknock Gary Oldman said Christopher Nolan hardly gave him any notes apart for one scene for one of the Batman movies. Nolan told him "there's more at stake" or something similar and Oldman understood.
I acted for a little while, a note I got from a director was "That was good, but can you do it more up?", I replied "How do you mean up? As in energy, speed, tone?" "*mumble mumble* errr ya know just up". WTF am I meant to do with that?
You obviously didn't know he meant to float a few feet off the ground.
@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852fr
He wanted more updog
If the director was Christopher Nolan, he was trying to tell you there's more at stake.
He obviously meant for you to act like the guy from the movie up and look sadder
The problem with a lot of these directions, that a lot of people in the comments don’t seem to understand, is that they’re not telling the actors why and/or how. You’re not just supposed to tell them faster / funnier etc., cause then they have to figure out what you, as the director, think that means.
Faster, slower and more energy is direction though. Those are concise directions.
Ya. It's called a conversation.
@@fartmachine5000 Not for an actor. More energy as in what? In what way? What is my character thinking that is motivating the energy for this action? It really isn’t concise, it’s vague and will yield poor results in terms of the actor’s performance.
@@hectormontes7056 I think "more energy" is a great start, but it should be "I need more energy, you need to do -----"
@@fartmachine5000 Not really helpful for feedback though. They're concise directions in the same way that telling them to hit their mark is a concise direction. LIke, I'm sure they can follow those directions, but actors tend to want to know if what they're doing is working for the characters or emotions they're trying to capture for the scene. When they're looking for notes, they want feedback on whether their performance is working on not, not to read words faster or slower. It's like the Saoirse Ronan example, she knows what they're doing, she's probably looking for a little more insight than that.
“You know when a serial killer chokes their victim, then revives them so they can do it again? Do that”- Brad Pitt on weirdest note 😂
we know who gave him that one don't we...
@@cwhitetkd Fincher? I doubt it was Tarantino considering he hasn't had Pitt choke anyone and insisted on choking Diane Kruger (after her consent) for Inglorious Bastards.
@@ANGELOFDARKificationProbably Kalifornia movie. But he didn't need the guidance when choking his kid.
weird that he tried to apply that to his own wife and kids though
@@cookieintheinternetyea according to the sane Angelina Jolie with no mental issues whatsoever
In fairness, "more energy" for Dakota Johnson is very valid and could've been given to her on literally any of her movies. She has the energy level and delivery of a dead fish.
Cruel. 😂
Okay but like... If you hire her, you know what you're getting.
@@supernova622The director doesn't do the hiring.
@@supernova622maybe they think she could be better?
@@supernova622 Sometimes the director is forced to cast her, because the execs think she is the "next big thing".
" More energy " to Dakota Johnson is absolutely personal.
It wasn't personal. But she definitely took it as a personal attack lol
@SonGoku-tp8gb Yeah. Personal the way she took it.
She's literally the most lifeless and monotone yet inexplicably successful actor, that note absolutely makes sense lol. She sounds like she's been doped to the gills with Xanax in Madame Web 😅 Most nepo babies are at least very good actors and can do the work, not so much in her case
@@SonGoku-tp8gblol why would u hire her when you already know she only acts one way
@@SonGoku-tp8gb I don't think she took it as a personal attack. The vague note just touched on something she struggles with, which means it was double-hard to follow without clear direction.
The whole joke was that she died inside because it's hard for her to appear energetic. A little too self-deprecating to read as offended.
i'm sorry but telling Dakota Johnson 'more energy' is so funny and valid AF. Girl is always so flat.
Dead people have more energy than Dakota Johnson.
She’s like a deflated airbed
Yeah but they literally hired her like that. If you want someone who's nothing like her, don't hire her. Hire someone with "more energy".
@@TheLostShoessometimes they are forced to work with them and make the best of what they've got
Directors VERY rarely get to choose their actors.
I love Jeremy Renner. “Anything longer than a sentence.” 😂
And then you have multiple people saying that "faster" is the worst note they've ever gotten despite it being one word that tells them everything they need to know.
@@thejimmymeister It's my honor and pleasure to introduce you to the idea of a Paradox, Jimmy: two apparent opposites of truth that are, yet, simultaneously, true.
Faster is not a performance. An actor needs to know their motivation. Faster tells them nothing. More than a sentence, and the director probably doesn't know the motivation.
@@dontfiguremeout What do you mean "faster" tells them nothing?
Faster means in a shorter period of time. WTF?!?!
@dontfiguremeout Faster is a direction. Directions are what the director gives. Performances aren't what the director gives; they are what the actor gives. An actor might need to know his motivation (although he might not-there are actors who turn in great performances without worrying about "motivation"), but a director does not because the director is not the one giving the performance.
The direction "faster" tells the actor one thing, namely, that they need to speak faster.
By the way, I know it's a paradox. That's why I pointed it out. I think highlighting the dichotomy, as I did, tells us something about how difficult directing can be.
I love the thumbs up response. Such a dad response to give an actor. 👍
QT does it 😅
this would be me as a director, i fear
Cillian Murphy plot twist: it was Christopher Nolan that asked
Would completely believe it.
I can see him asking every actor that in every movie he’s made
My answer would be: “You used to be.”
"Am I a good director? 🥺"
Me as a director tbh
When doms want validation from their subs.
🥺👉👈 am I a good diwector
To me the "do the same thing again" makes sense because maybe the performance was fine, but the director noticed a better camera angle or there was some fault unrelated to the actor's performance 🤔 also it makes sense to get two good takes, especially if in cutting the movie they need to combine the two takes etc
The problem is it can be heard to do the same thing again
They don't say "do the same thing again". They will tell you an actual note but you were already doing it.
Then you tell that to the actor so that you don’t look like an idiot through their eyes.
@@backtoklondike Or maybe the actor can consider there are a thousand considerations on a set that are not about them and just do as they're asked without judgement.
Was doing a play once and my character was a Romanian Orthodox Jew who sold fabric in 1905. I kid you not after one of our first run throughs the director stops and goes “ummmm. Yeah that was great… ummmm.. do you think you could make him feel a little more sexier.” 🙃
Clearly, sexiness is everything I look for in Romanian Orthodox Jews who sell fabric in 1905. How can you think of literally anything else when given that description?!
oh, amazing. i'm now picturing a chubby rabbi with a fur hat and lace garters, seductively unrolling fabric. 😂
What, like twirl your payos?
Random question - would this happen to be the play "Intimate Apparel"?
@ it was indeed
To quote Robert Downey Jr: "Listen, smile, agree, then do whatever the f**k you were gonna to do anyway"
Meanwhile David Lynch's notes: "KAYLE! ELVIS PRESLEY IN A CLOUD!"
'more energy' why did you hire Dakota if this wasn't what you wanted
Unfortunately, sometimes there are politics involved that lead to actors being cast that are beyond the directors control.
This. Unlike a lot of people in this comment section, I actually think Dakota Johnson is a fine actress - she’s just not someone with a lot of range. If you hire her, it should have a purpose.
What are you talking about? @@TheIronDuke9
@@vixo551execs affecting casting decisions so they can stick a trendy name on their latest schlock
Dakota is a nepo baby which gives her connections and power. I'm bringing that up because many directors get forced by the studio into hiring actors that they don't really want.
The zooming out effect with the thumbs up murdered me, that and the expression. Gold.
When I did theatre, a director said
“I know you’re sisters in this scene, but just to give it more energy, imagine your lesbian lovers”
0:27 Telling a gay actor to “do it less gay”… the homophobia is so real. My heart fucking breaks for Jonathan Groff and every gay actor in the industry. That’s like telling a non-white person to “do it less [their ethnicity].”
His face after he said it 😢
tbf he does sounds pretty gay ngl
@@lankarph9456tbf you do sound pretty dumb ngl
But he was supposed to be the straighter acting of all the guys in Looking. Maybe that's why he was told that?
It’s called acting.
When a director tells an actor "be funnier", that's like a trainer telling a boxer "hit the guy some more".
Thanks for the expert advice 🤨
It's actually even less helpful than that because sometimes "hit the guy some more" is what the boxer needs to hear.
To be fair that is how you win a fight
It's not really like boxing because the boxer is always trying to hit the guy some more. Actors are not always trying to maximize the zaniness.
Additionally, problem with the actor complaining about a "be funnier" note is that when the director actually tells the actor how to be funnier, often the actor gets insulted because figuring out how to act funny is _their_ job, yet on the other hand apparently just saying it's not good enough (funny enough) yet and letting the actor figure it out is also a bad note. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
C
"You see what they need to do is score more points than the other team"
-Madden
Just because a person is in a position of authority, doesn't mean they KNOW HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE....
I've encountered this several times throughout my life...
See Kamala Harris.
@@ChristianComito-e7d SeE KaMaLa HaRriS 🤡
@@ChristianComito-e7d see donald, thats a better example
@@Ellie-vb9vm huh?
@@ChristianComito-e7dDonald is incoherent.
1:47 Cillian Murphy looks like a floating head
Yor display is fucked up, his shirt is clearly defined
😂😂😆
I lowered my brightness just to entertain this further 😂
The orchestra one kills me. Like yeah man, they're usually playing a few different notes, that's kinda the whole thing.
i think what the director may have meant was that in a symphony it feels like everyones doing their own thing instead of following a harmony. then you ust have a few random notes instead of a well written piece.
The worst thing a director ever said to me that had me so confused was “touch the chair like you’re nervous “ but after the take he said I was “touching the chair like I was nervous.” I just stood there so confused.
Best/worst I received was “could you be a little more…unhinged?”
I asked “Am I….was I being unhinged just now?”
“No, but can you do it more?”
Okay 😅
It was a completely mundane dinner scene and we soon realized the director was just sort of making it up and changing the script as we went along.
Lmao
I love hearing David Fincher’s directions like doing the opening scene of The Social Network, which they did 99 takes of.
“Cut. Not even close. Let’s go again.” 🤣
I mean... that Dakota Johnson note tracks.
my favorite best note story is edward norton being told on fight club, "less jerry, more dean." meaning play it a little cooler.
Who is the Jerry he means? Lewis? Seinfeld?
If mentioning less Jerry and more Dean, than I would think it's safe to assume Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. I haven't watched in a minute, so I guess there could be a Dean to Jerry Seinfeld. I actually don't recall
If "faster" or "slower" is their worst note it means they have worked with good directors overall because that aint even bad for a note. Now the Chris Pine one, that one is actually bad 😂 i wonder who the director was
"Do it again and make me believe you." Sometimes your employees irritate you.
Honestly, I wonder if the reason Dakota said “more energy” was the worst note is because she’s aware of the fact that’s she’s famously low key energy and why would you hire her for the role if you wanted more than she is famous for. She’s a smart witty girl and I like to think this was her being playful and self aware with her answer. The fact she delivers the sentence with her trademark low key energy seems like a confirmation of this!
Indeed, why would anyone hire Dakota Johnson?
Often the director and casting director are different people, so the director most likely would have hired someone else. Probably not what an actor wants to hear though.
Because the casting director and the movie director aren’t always the same people
@@mae_liiiYeah, but you're still the one who has final say on who gets cast in the role tho 🤨 Casting directors aren't choosing actors completely seperate from what all the creative heads want (let alone without the film director's approval), that's not how that works 💀
@dustinstelly6518 for the vibes
"You were better in rehearsal."
"How so?"
"I don't know. You were just better."
Oh god, so unhelpful
1:03 someone tell this director that orchestras are supposed to play different notes. That's what an orchestration is.
The flip side to this is Gary Oldman was once asked what was the best note a director has ever given him. He said it was from Christopher Nolan who rarely gave him notes. All he said was ‘just remember, there’s more at stake here’, and Oldman instantly understood.
Cillian: "A director once asked me, am I good director?"
Christopher Nolan: 👁👄👁
"We're the needy ones!" Cillian Murphy is incredible 😂
Kubrick told actors to “do that again” his whole career. The director has something in mind even with directions that don’t make sense to you. He just doesn’t wanna tell you cuz he knows you’re gonna annoy him with pointless retorts
It might depend on the context, but “faster” is a valid technical direction.
It's an annoying note though and you have to translate it to how tf you can do that believably because talking faster is a stupid request
@@goober479 Not really. Sometimes people slow down their speech for emphasis or effect, but it doesn't always come across as they intended. If a line would have been more effective if the actor sped up their speech, it's a pretty valid note.
No shit sherlock
Some actors come in thinking that speaking slowly gives their role gravitas but usually it just makes the take feel pretentious and lifeless.
(I work on audio fiction with a lot of TV and Film actors)
It's not a very good note though.
I literally choked on my bubly at the "Am I a good director?"
To be fair - some directors think they know exactly what they want, and then they experiment with variants of delivery and that experiment pays off
Great video!!
In college my chamber choral conductor would just stop us, give a death glare to a singer and say "Fix it." Nothing else. It was very nerve wracking.
Not a very good teacher, from the sound of it.
Plot twist "do it less gay" was while he was voicing Kristoff
I assume the director who gave Joseph Quinn the thumbs up is probably Shawn Levy.
Another one from David Harbour: while filming Brokeback Mountain, at one point Ang Lee told him to do the scene again but to be "more handsome."
I took an acting workshop and the instructor made me redo a monologue a million times in front of the entire class but could NOT pinpoint what exactly was wrong or how I could fix it. Like?? If you can’t articulate the problem is it that you don’t like me? 😂
Thing is, a director won't always tell an actor exact details, because they don't want the actor to think about the performance. Some can deliver a natural performance, others simply can't. Some actors keep it simple, while others like to go big and be theatrical. Ncolas Meyer famously got the performance he did out of William Shatner for Wrath of Khan by doing take after take until Shatner got bored and simply delivered the line.
Those last comments remind me of the producer switch Lee Sklar has on his bass guitar.
I see how "Am I a good director?" is pretty bad, but I guess it's nice that they're maybe asking what can be interpreted as "Do you need anything? Do you feel like I'm describing what I want from you in a way that you understand and that you think makes sense? What's your opinion?"? It's pretty bad that it has to be interpreted, yes, if that's the gist of the encrypted meaning behind it, but yeah... You do the directing and please be confident enough in your abilities to well, DIRECT others of course
and if that's what was meant then the answer is no 😂
Murphy expands on it in the full clip, basically as the director you need to be fully assured, your job is to have no qualms about what you’re doing, if there’s something than the actor will bring it up
"Okay, let's try that again, but this time good."
Sometimes just going "do the same thing again" is a way of exhausting the actor because you notice they're stuck in a shtick that you have to break through. That's how Nicholas Meyer directed Shatner in Wrath of Khan.
"Go faster" is a totally valid note.
As a director, a crucial part of the job is to make sure that the film is well paced and doesn't drag.
If the actors take their time with the scene, it can screw up the pace of the film.
I dont think any actor who has actually directed would ever complain about it.
Yes, but "faster" is too vague a note. "Let's quicken the pace of the scene. You're nervous and scared that you'll be found out." "Excelent. Let's try a shorter pause after his speech." "Step on each others words a bit during the argument if you have to." "Your character has to be at this point on the stage/set 10 seconds after the fight breaks out. So you need make sure you time it just right." Specificity is always more appreciated.
@@digabledoug A lot of actors don't like being micromanaged that way. They'll be insulted if you try to tell them how to do their craft. Instead, just tell them what you need and let them work it out. If you've got a good relationship with them, they should know they can always ask you for more explanation, if need be.
But then some other actors are the opposite (like the ones in this video), and always want details. You have to know which kind of actor you're dealing with, because they aren't all the same.
Phenomenal edit, Joshy boy
but could you do it faster
My first thought when they complained about being told to do it again was just that any number of technical issues occurred, and the the director just didn't bother blaming anyone. Could be out of consideration for the person, could just be out of consideration for time. Like, "we're not going to waste time sitting through Christian Bale ranting at a lighting guy, just do it again right now". The actor doesn't need to know that a rim light got kicked out of position.
Okay, Dakota, for this next take, I’m gonna need you be awake
What;s wrong with more energy or faster, slower etc?
This Dr. Dartagrian DiStifano guy looks cool and has a great voice. I feel like if you give him a role in a sci-fi movie, like Star Trek, let's say Captain Kirk, I think he would do wonders
I just KNOW "do it less gay" was Ryan Murphy
"Worst" can mean, I think in this context, poorest/most confusing or most upsetting (those people who were told, like, "I don't believe you")
He should have told the director. "NEWS FLASH! Instruments in an orchestra do NOT all play the same note! But you never played in an orchestra, have you?"
I see nothing wrong with "faster" and "slower". Directors want specific pace for the movie so actors should adjust to that.
Actors dislike specific line readings in general because it feels mechanical to them. Kind of an unfortunate thing about the nature of the medium (lines need to be delivered a certain way or else they don't work), you can look up the Sopranos actors talking about it.
@@vishaansingh1019 "faster" or "slower" is not a line reading...
Telling an actor "faster" or "slower" doesn't work for them because they're trying to find the character and authentic emotions in their performance, not trying to hit a desired runtime for a scene. Finding the right pace for a movie is done on the page and in the editing room.
@@thetramp123 that's nice in theory, but on the set the technicalities of pacing within a scene are always an issue. Faster and slower are totally valid directions for most actors in most situations. Usually the beats and motivations of the scene are already established and these directions are finishing touches. There are many approaches to acting and some can deal with these external directions better than others.
@GrizzlyHands When you're reading this saying 'do it faster' you won't know what you should do faster. That's why that director note is not a specific note on what they should achieve in the next take. They need to give specific notes on what they should do to achieve a faster space for the take to be able to adjust.
As an actor, the worst note that was given to me was “start acting and start crying”.
Yikes!
"We're going to bring that fire and that rage up. I want you to do it again, and I want you to do it happier and with your mouth open"
Jack Quaid’s was amazing😭
Leonard Rossiter told a story about a bad director who once had a young actress in floods of tears. She asked the director what she needed to do and he said "Go away and be better".
When I was in college, I heard a guest director tell another actor that she needed to play her character as if she were "a cosmic ray." At one notes session, the director of the theatre program, who knew me well enough to know that it was frustrating me no end not to be able to tell this guy where to shove his comments that were confusing cast and crew more than they were helping them, slipped me a note that read, "You work with bad directors so you can appreciate the good ones."
The problem is, actors are thinking about characters as people, directors have to take that misconception and create story characters out of it.
Like "funnier" is fairly simple, you have to misdirect until the punchline, but the actor wants motivation for that. They're not thinking about what's on screen.
0:27 jonathan groff
So I just learned that the actors are getting notes like they are still at school.
Not even one: "Do it more like this: [gives line reading]"
"Now do it again and make me believe you." Such a jerky thing to say.
“don’t do that. that’s uh…bad.” i’d die
I've seen more personality in a slice of cheese, than Dakota Johnson
I giggle at the thought of any director trying to give Dakota Johnson constructive feedback. Dude, you're not going to turn her into Amy Adams. She's just there for eye candy.
We forget sometimes that no matter if youre a five-star actor or a struggling cashier, bad bosses will always suck
Honestly, the worst "note" I've ever gotten from a director is silence. They just expect you to telepathically know what they want. TV directors are the WORST for this. It's like they're scared of actors or something. I'd much rather hear "faster" than do 38 takes with zero feedback.
It's tv. All about getting coverage since it's all about the editor later on.
That is normally because there is a show runner and they take precedence over the director.
Fan de esta seccióooon ❤
Me encanta que puedas explorar tu pasión por la moda y el estilo y ademas en este formato tan cómodo y orgánico.
Creo que eso es lo mas importante, que lo mantengas así natural y charladito con los guests.
Tqm 🖤
The rest of the world calls this: Being an employee.
Not everybody can act or direct. It's a pretty specific talent.
Wow…. so they’re being directed by directors, can you imagine such a tough job being an actor
Nearly all of these are fair notes. Actors fail to realize that they are the cashiers of the film world, entirely replaceable by someone from a soap, commercial, or local theater production. There's always talent out there in that pool. Not so for a good director- they are hard to find. So when one gets to the top level, respect them. It's THEIR picture.
Eastwood has it right. No rehearsals- it's on the actor to be prepared and "get it" BEFORE shooting starts. If you can't get it right in one or two takes, you're not a true professional and you're wasting everyone's time.
It's hard to find good actors as well. Many think that they could do it, but their first16 hours day would not end well. Every director is different. Some provide a lot of direction. Not typically in TV because the show runner takes precedence. Directors are for hire per episode. I'm sure that there are many replaceable people in many jobs. Not just show biz.
A director on an instructional DVD I was shooting told me after a take: Those were some of the words on the script. Now try saying all of them.
Dude is now legit one of my best friends.
“I need you to improvise as much as possible, but follow the script word for word”
"Do it again but make me believe you" is actually a good note
It's the "That was wonderful" that preceded the note that makes it bad. Because how could it have been wonderful if it wasn't believable? So presumably the "wonderful" bit was sarcasm, which makes the director seem like a dick.
I mean having seen Dakota Johnson in multiple movies, "more energy" seems like a valid note. 😂
Thank's for the video, please make more of that !!
The worst not I’ve gotten from a director might be “I loved the way you said that line. Keep saying it like that.”. Once that’s verbalized, you can never recreate it.
As a musician, I see nothing wrong with "faster" and "slower" and "more energy." A movie, like music, flows at a certain tempo, and I would imagine that for seasoned actors a mechanical note like that is more helpful than "remember when your first pet died" or "this is a chess game and you're about to take his queen" or whatever.
It depends on the context, but yeah, those last ones are all equally annoying.
Ironically, a veteran Canadian stage legend at the Shaw Festival once told a director, "I take four notes: faster, slower, louder, quieter."
true, but sometimes that's exactly why they don't like that note, because they know making it faster or slower would hurt the scene. Sometimes, directors don't feel the scene as well as the people in it, which is bad directing. I'm not a professional actor, but I was once in a play, and our director told us to try the scene in slow-mo.... it was a horror-drama, so, uuuuh... why? And she was like "JUST TRY IT ALREADY" and we tried it and, yes, it was as shit as we knew it would be, but she "liked" it (we could see she wasn't convinced, but admitting so would hurt her ego, so she wanted us to go with it). Everyone in the audience afterwards said "Wow, I loved that play, except that weird slo-mo... like, what was that?". So, yeah, directors and actors have to be in agreement regarding a scene's speed, otherwise it might just seem off. It's a team effort after all
Rushing or dragging? 😂
I’ve done coaching for both actors and musicians and one note that I’ve given that I have found effective for both is “do what you think is way too much. Forget everything you’ve learned about taste and restraint and just embarrass yourself.” Those ALWAYS turn out to be the best performances.
@@jdj830
Yeah, I've done (as a stage in rehearsal) do your worst performance, what you're afraid is the worst overacting. It turns out to be really useful with Shakespeare. It's generally too big for an actual performance, but it's really freeing to just go too far and do what you fear.
I once had a director who didn't speak much english. My favourite direction was "look like you have to go toilet".
If I had been Jonathan Groff, and gotten the "do it less gay" note, that director would've been going home with fewer teeth.
And then you would have never acted again
“Cillian, am I a good director? 🥺”
-Christopher Nolan
Knew a civic theater director who used to say, "Connect!" over and over again without ever expounding on what he felt that word meant for him. He'd just keep spouting, "Connect! Con-NECCCT!! ConeeeeecctttTT!" repeatedly, sometimes while holding his thumb, forefinger and middle finger together for emphasis and jerking his hand in the air. Impossible to tell what the guy was talking about.
An actor is nothing more then an empty vessel, respect the real work that goes into making you look good.
Making Full Metal Jacket Kubrick was doing his usual 30+ takes of a scene.
And one of the actors blurted out to the other actors “Man, what does he WANT?”
And Kubrick had his eye on the eyepiece of the camera, and just moved his head away from it for a second to lean over and say “How ‘bout better acting?”
And went back to looking in the camera. 🤣
My response to that would probably get me fired
Poor direction
Did Kubrick ever consider that 30+ takes were needed because he didn’t give good enough notes?
@
With The Shining I know he did loads of takes because he knew the actors would do abnormal things and it would create a unique energy for a horror film.
And he was right.
Directors are literally being criticized for giving a thumbs up.
“Ok, let’s do it again, but this time good”
Madam Web could've used more ENERGY.
Least of it's problems
Dakota Johnson's energy is probably one of the better things about that trainwreck tbh. It at least gives what is otherwise a complete mess a little personality.
Could've used a better writing
dakota was okay in it, the worst part is the script by far
it's a shame they didn't interview Blake lively for this video