Top three what? As far as my question I used the words “as far as notoriety”. the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed. Period. How was he not well known when all y’all speak of him. lol
Kev Mac is a brother we must give his flowers to...great content...after i retired from the Marines, i was depressed..Your videos kept me focused on something. Thank you
Interesting. He seems to give a slightly nuanced different rendition of the factual history of the crips. However, there was never a hesitation and he spoke with undeniable confidence. He clearly has an active and precise mind. Another gem from Kev, hood historian extraordinaire.
Thank you. My My this is a very good interview, Jimmy Lavender ,I hit hard , right away I believed the man. This is another good story and great video keep them coming cause there great. We're talking about a long time ago
Well done. I always look forward to hearing this brother…I don’t know him, but I get a sense of authenticity from this brother, that you don’t get from all the people I’ve heard on this or various platforms.
On March 3rd, I talked with my uncle from 5pm to 8:30am about a lot of these these topics amongst other things. He and Raymond are the same age and went to school together. A lot of people don't know that even though we are all on the Eastside, there was still like a unspoken divide line. That line was Central Avenue. Most of those guys from the other side of Central didn't and couldn't really hang out on the Eastside of Central Avenue. Everyone had to cross Central of course to either go to Edison Jr High or Fremont High, but after that, you kind of stuck to your side.Also, many came together at Roosevelt Park. Raymond was okay to hang out on our block sometimes because he was friends with one of our homegirl's, and he liked her. Raymond, Craig Craddock, Big Alton, Cyco Michael, John Daniels, and those dudes are from the other side. There's a whole bunch of other tough dudes on our side that banged, and a whole lot more that never banged. Even during my time, most of us clicked on our perspective sides. I got to know a lot of those guys from the other side of Central because I had a female over there, and that was in the later part of the 1970s. That's just the way that it was.
I see some negative comments on Jimel on other platforms so it’s good to see Jimmy put his point of view on the situation. Would love to see what Og Cutes has to say on Jimel also
Good interview Kev Mac always good when jimmy lavender on here but my thing is why everyone box jimel Barnes of just being the leader of the 88 avalon garden crips when he ran with the top guys I’m pretty sure he had more influence in crip not just in the projects
Back then? 2016, 2017 if he landed, he could put you to sleep. He has some sort of connection to Joe Gossen, or his brother and they would let him work out at their gym. Some days he would look lost and confused hope he is doing better.
Aye Kev you heard Jimmy from WASHINGTON BLVD to LONG BEACH they knew my NAME chitty chitty bang bang aint nuttin but a ♿️ thang Raymond Lee Washington 1968
Jimel was always with Tookie, and yes he was a top three Crip. Jimel was also thought to be Tookies "boy". Jimel was not the most respected guy for some reason and he fucked up when he spoke against Tookies murders!
jimel was homeless and crazy when he said that stuff. when he was on that big phone interview and said he was teaching boxing/directing movies/ etc. that's pure mania/schizophrenia. he was a homeless person with mental issues. the news media, and "bone" are foul for giving him the platform to bring heat on himself and his relatives like that. he said what he said and went back to beeing homeless and lived completly unprotected in the valley. jimel is hard as nails.
Well, I have read the book called “Blue Rage, Black Redemption” like 15 years ago. The co-founder of the Crips, Stanley Tookie Williams, wrote that book and in his words, he stated that the Crips started off as a neighborhood watch where the community would get together to fight against racist cops who beat people in their communities for no reason. He said they formed because the black panther party went away at that time. Stanley Tookie Williams also stated in the book that the crips would go from neighborhood to neighborhood and had fisticuffs with other gang members and if they lost the fight, they would be converted to Crips. I remembered that because I had never heard of the word “fisticuffs” before I read the book lol. Lastly, Stanley Tookie also stated that the Blood gang were once Crips themselves. There were a lot of infighting and several Crip gangs branched off into their own and called themselves bloods. Having said that, I’m not disagreeing with the brother in the video. All I’m saying is if you read the book like I did, you can see for yourself what Tookie Williams said. I personally think gangs are stupid because it leads to prison, death, and it is just plain stupid to fight and die over street corners that they don’t even own. The idea of killing over colors is dumb too. All that killing and they could have joined forces and build businesses to help their neighborhood people, and all that generational wealth could have helped black people.
A few bits of context to note when reading Tookie’s account: 1. Raymond created the Crips because he couldn’t be an Avenue. 2. Tookie wasn’t present for the creation of the Crips. 3. Tookie was on death row while writing this book, fighting for his life and hoping for clemency.
@@onetwo6003 everything you said is correct. This is exactly why I said this came from the book and not from me. Whenever I tell somebody something, and I don’t know or didn’t live the life, I would say I got the information from the book. And in that book everything I said from the book is from that man’s mouth. If Raymond made a book, I do not know, I will quote from that persons mouth. Also, another thing to take from this is no one knows of you weren’t there. People lie all the time it is part of human nature. I only read the book because I wanted to learn how Tookie got the body he did because I was into bodybuilding at the time. I do not watch anything else on kev Mac’s videos except videos about Og Cutes and Jimel Barnes. I find them both to be interesting characters. One part I did like about Tookie’s book was this old freak he would have sex with from time to time. In the book he said she loved to have fruit thrown at her real hard and real fast. He said he was throwing blenders and spoons at her, he made her bleed and orgasm at the same time. She yelled to get out her house after that lmaoo.
Those both make sense right there. crips started because of who? Who was they're enemy in order to start? None! And -spook hunter's- ended in 1960. Oh okay 👍🏾
They started because Raymond wanted his own gang simple as that, it didn’t need to be started to protect anybody or any buster shi like that because if you like that yall just do it and also nobody gonna do nothin or the police so it couldn’t be because of that either I knew that without knowing the facts
My young brother from Pueblo Bishop put me on to me Jimmy lavender imma say much love and respect to him and my young brothers sethro and top dog from King James GD folks
I've met him before on the Orange line 🚌 bus in the San Fernando valley. He's always talking about fighting somebody with big old gloves. This is the valley so nobody really take him that serious but that's what I'll be seeing him around doing all the time. Janelle Barnes that is
"Biggest lie ever told" i couldnt agree more. I dont think anyone ever saw the Crips comin and said the Crips are here, we are safe now 😂 nah, people saw the Crips and they going inside or crossing the street
Hey Kev, Jimmy said the Crips spread fast because because of Raymonds name. I always thought it was because unlike the gangs before them, the Crips accepted younger and younger kids into the gang. Am i totally wrong or is the truth somewhere in the middle?
If I may there is some truth to this as well. Raymond was believe to be 15...so how old was the baby crips? 12 .13 .14-year-old. But they followed the oldest...I like your question. We were all just teenagers. I was 16
@@JimmyLavender-oc7jj Thank you Mr Lavender, I'm honoured you even responded to my question. I always hear people compare gangs like the Crips and Bloods to the tribes of Africa, which always sounded disrespectful to me. The tribes of Africa are actually Nations. Me personally, I think the closer comparison to Crips and Bloods is not the African tribes, the closer comparison is to the warlords of Africa who only fight for their own personal gain, and who use child soldiers in their armies.
Im from NYC and when i started watching your channel I realize that was lie also. Many of us got that idea from Cleo Sloane documentary "BASTARDS OF THE PARTY"
@@TreworldLegendary77 tookie book didn't come out until 2004 there been off brands crips in NYC way before that book 📙 You act like tookie started crip or something ... tookie copied everything from others just like Raymond etc. The crips are known from copying/stealing without giving credit to the originals That's common knowledge
1969 CRIPS ♿️ 1 Raymond Edison Jr High 2 Tookie Horrace Mann Jr High 3 Jimel Charles Drew Jr High My gramma stayed on the westside Raymond would sneak in her window on the corner of 3rd ave 74th he knew all van ness boys but hated them Inglewood ninjas he didn’t know them EASTSIDE shit rip the king ♿️ oh ya don’t forget bulldog at Bethune Jr high
Bigger question would be, if Jimel didn’t bad mouth tookie, would everyone’s opinion of him be different and give him credit to be one of the top crips?
Jimel said Raymond was my homeboy in 1968 the beginning of the CRIPS Raymond was deebo , Jimel could crack jokes on Raymond “ I BE QUIET BUT WHEN HE LEAVE I BE TALKING AGAIN” 🤣 💙 ♿️ EASTSIDE shit
Think about it. If Jimel was as soft as some people make him out to be,then why would Tookie always be with him. It doesn’t add up. I’ve known Jimel for almost 24 years and the truth is he’s had some mental issues that he can’t help for a while now. I started to see it happening to him in 99-20 where he would start saying a bunch of random stuff. For years he was living on the streets and sleeping on bus stops in the Valley. And I know for a fact he doesn’t drink, smoke, or do any kinds of drugs. So why was he out there? He has a mental illness. I can’t understand how y’all can’t see it. I believe that’s why he said all those things about Tookie. He’s not in his right mind.
So you trying to force kevmac to kopykat running his music through out the whole videos the same way... Traumatic El Guapo running his musics through out his live videos?. Do Traumatic aka: Trauma know you trying to get his style but?
Because the second generation of Eastside Crips didn't hang west of Central Ave. The Swans were formed to fight the Hoovers, by Elvis Dexter and the kids on that side grew up only seeing Swans
Aren't they only talking trash about Jimel on the internet? People do that to about dang near with everyone on the internet. The internet isn't real life lol.
Yea that’s bullshit idk why they tried to make it seem like it’s for the community it’s okay if it just started cuz yall were tough that’s better than starting because yall were getting hurt
I think jimel is up there...Barefoot pookie .Honcho. Mac.is up there...Craig wasn't all over the place like the others...nor was him or Mac very well spoke on in the low bottom. Not to my knowledge..and I went to Jefferson high when it was dominated by crips...this is why I give Jimel the edge...they were all well known...
Biggest problem with those speaking on Barnes is the massive lack of understanding around mental well-being/ health amongst the Black community in general. C-macC is modern day Jamel Barnes.
Toss up I believe, pookie nor mack was spoken of much in the low bottom like JB and perhaps because pookie stayed on the west side and mack Compton and Watts....But hey all of them is way up there...
Top 3 crips (in my honest opinion) 1. Raymond Lee Washington 2.Stanley Tookie Williams 3. Mac Thomas Now here’s what I think is the problem that people have with Jimel. He threw dirt on his homeboys name when at Tookie’s lowest moment. The man was already about to be executed, why go throw dirt on his name? Was Jimel around in the early days? Perhaps but most people say he was, but his attitude and demeanor kinda rubbed people the wrong way. Take that with a grain of salt. People will probably never give him his dues because of his actions in the early days and based on what he said about Big Took. Had he not said that, who knows what his reputation would be like now.
Let's start education..It will definitely set us free. Those that don't know their history are condemned to repeat it. But it comes a time where you got to keep on pushing on down the line.. And positive progress keep it rolling. A undecided and uneducated man is going to violence because that's all under stand. Get together and unite teach the children well,and know knowledge meaning there's thousands of years of history absolutely about your self than just this little time in history of killing ourselves..
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Jamel was not I repeat, not in the top 3.
You need to stop
Top three what?
As far as my question I used the words “as far as notoriety”. the state of being famous or well known for some bad quality or deed. Period. How was he not well known when all y’all speak of him. lol
Were you there? Probably not! Respect history!
@@180Program lmao 🤡
@@KevMacVideos 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@180ProgramWas you there? You probably we're neither. 😆🤣
For some reason all these years later the intro still fire to me can’t help but to sing it word for word
I second that.
Straight up
Good to see Mr Lavender back on the Blue Channel. KEV Mac you are dropping heat... providing clarity, context, and nuance to the history!
Well said
Big Bro Jimmy
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Fasho!
Kev Mac is a brother we must give his flowers to...great content...after i retired from the Marines, i was depressed..Your videos kept me focused on something.
Thank you
He's one of the greats out of this collection of interviews. He was always well spoken with still a good memory.
Respect to Jimmy for giving Jimel his respect 👊🏽
Let’s be honest man most people’s beef with Jimel was his sayin all that bullshit about Took when he was fighting for his life on death row
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Yeah, but that’s reason enough to hate on him.
@@Greg-xi8yx damn
Very articulate brother!
Jimmy speaks well I can listen to him all day
Happy Birthday Bobby Lavender
Interesting. He seems to give a slightly nuanced different rendition of the factual history of the crips. However, there was never a hesitation and he spoke with undeniable confidence. He clearly has an active and precise mind. Another gem from Kev, hood historian extraordinaire.
Good one kal😂 i mean kev,good to see Jimmy back !
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Hundreds Of Them Over Night!! Profound Gem Dropped Right There!! 🔥🔥💙✌🏾😎💎
Thank you. My My this is a very good interview, Jimmy Lavender ,I hit hard , right away I believed the man. This is another good story and great video keep them coming cause there great. We're talking about a long time ago
Salute from London
Blue Channel up and poppin. Good to hear a different perspective on Jimel Barnes
Thank you for sharing another great interview.
Well done. I always look forward to hearing this brother…I don’t know him, but I get a sense of authenticity from this brother, that you don’t get from all the people I’ve heard on this or various platforms.
On March 3rd, I talked with my uncle from 5pm to 8:30am about a lot of these these topics amongst other things. He and Raymond are the same age and went to school together. A lot of people don't know that even though we are all on the Eastside, there was still like a unspoken divide line. That line was Central Avenue. Most of those guys from the other side of Central didn't and couldn't really hang out on the Eastside of Central Avenue. Everyone had to cross Central of course to either go to Edison Jr High or Fremont High, but after that, you kind of stuck to your side.Also, many came together at Roosevelt Park. Raymond was okay to hang out on our block sometimes because he was friends with one of our homegirl's, and he liked her. Raymond, Craig Craddock, Big Alton, Cyco Michael, John Daniels, and those dudes are from the other side. There's a whole bunch of other tough dudes on our side that banged, and a whole lot more that never banged. Even during my time, most of us clicked on our perspective sides. I got to know a lot of those guys from the other side of Central because I had a female over there, and that was in the later part of the 1970s. That's just the way that it was.
True.
You the God Father of this style channel. There is a million nowadays
Great interview, I brought his book.
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Thanks for ur support I hope you enjoy it
Genuinely An OG💯✊🏾
I see some negative comments on Jimel on other platforms so it’s good to see Jimmy put his point of view on the situation. Would love to see what Og Cutes has to say on Jimel also
Jimmy say it protect against who? 🤷🏿♂️We laughed about this on the phone🤣
This is my favorite content. The older heads with the factual origins. Shout out to Mr. Lavender and of course you again Kev Mac.
Big Huncho from Grape Street crips did recognize Jimel Barnes early years as a Crip menace
Nice interview bro” very informative’
"On the Quick, Quick!!"
Lol
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SALUTE from Detroit 💯!!
What up doe
What Up Doe
Monster Kody is the crip bibliographer.
Jamiel is a Nut now
But yu can tell he was a factor!
Great interview tho to Bad we can’t get
Jameil 🌀smh 💯
Great book from Mr. Lavender
Nice …Real Original L.A. Gang History much props to Mr. lavender triple OG
That intro hit hard ….message!
You can see this man's gorgeous a memory like a hawk or cardinal brilliant..
"I started Corner Poccect in my momma garage" 🎉
Mr lavender could play the black Santa Claus for children in the hood
"Biggest lie ever told." Thank you.
Good to see you OG
Jimmy Kavender comes across as a “honest” man …. No extras on his interviews. I seen all his videos on KevMac channel!!!
JIMMY SUCH A GOOD GUY
Its KMV celebration..respect KMV
Good interview Kev Mac always good when jimmy lavender on here but my thing is why everyone box jimel Barnes of just being the leader of the 88 avalon garden crips when he ran with the top guys I’m pretty sure he had more influence in crip not just in the projects
Facts are facts, are facts!
🫡👑 salute Jimmy Lavender
Back then? 2016, 2017 if he landed, he could put you to sleep. He has some sort of connection to Joe Gossen, or his brother and they would let him work out at their gym. Some days he would look lost and confused hope he is doing better.
Jimmy is a good dude
Aye Kev you heard Jimmy from WASHINGTON BLVD to LONG BEACH they knew my NAME chitty chitty bang bang aint nuttin but a ♿️ thang Raymond Lee Washington 1968
I would love to see a Raymond Washington movie. The founder of the CRIPS.
There is going to be one
His family is involved
@@tmclifestyle4238 right on!!!
Avenue drop out Raymond 😂
That hoodie 🔥🔥🔥
Most people hate on Jimel because of what happened with tookie..that’s what it’s always seemed like to me past few years from different interviews
Jimel was always with Tookie, and yes he was a top three Crip. Jimel was also thought to be Tookies "boy". Jimel was not the most respected guy for some reason and he fucked up when he spoke against Tookies murders!
I agree and when I first heard what he said, I said Damm man they gonna kill you.and he told me it was a respons to what Tookie said....
jimel was homeless and crazy when he said that stuff. when he was on that big phone interview and said he was teaching boxing/directing movies/ etc. that's pure mania/schizophrenia. he was a homeless person with mental issues. the news media, and "bone" are foul for giving him the platform to bring heat on himself and his relatives like that.
he said what he said and went back to beeing homeless and lived completly unprotected in the valley. jimel is hard as nails.
Well, I have read the book called “Blue Rage, Black Redemption” like 15 years ago. The co-founder of the Crips, Stanley Tookie Williams, wrote that book and in his words, he stated that the Crips started off as a neighborhood watch where the community would get together to fight against racist cops who beat people in their communities for no reason. He said they formed because the black panther party went away at that time. Stanley Tookie Williams also stated in the book that the crips would go from neighborhood to neighborhood and had fisticuffs with other gang members and if they lost the fight, they would be converted to Crips. I remembered that because I had never heard of the word “fisticuffs” before I read the book lol. Lastly, Stanley Tookie also stated that the Blood gang were once Crips themselves. There were a lot of infighting and several Crip gangs branched off into their own and called themselves bloods.
Having said that, I’m not disagreeing with the brother in the video. All I’m saying is if you read the book like I did, you can see for yourself what Tookie Williams said. I personally think gangs are stupid because it leads to prison, death, and it is just plain stupid to fight and die over street corners that they don’t even own. The idea of killing over colors is dumb too. All that killing and they could have joined forces and build businesses to help their neighborhood people, and all that generational wealth could have helped black people.
A few bits of context to note when reading Tookie’s account: 1. Raymond created the Crips because he couldn’t be an Avenue. 2. Tookie wasn’t present for the creation of the Crips. 3. Tookie was on death row while writing this book, fighting for his life and hoping for clemency.
@@onetwo6003 everything you said is correct. This is exactly why I said this came from the book and not from me. Whenever I tell somebody something, and I don’t know or didn’t live the life, I would say I got the information from the book. And in that book everything I said from the book is from that man’s mouth. If Raymond made a book, I do not know, I will quote from that persons mouth. Also, another thing to take from this is no one knows of you weren’t there. People lie all the time it is part of human nature. I only read the book because I wanted to learn how Tookie got the body he did because I was into bodybuilding at the time. I do not watch anything else on kev Mac’s videos except videos about Og Cutes and Jimel Barnes. I find them both to be interesting characters. One part I did like about Tookie’s book was this old freak he would have sex with from time to time. In the book he said she loved to have fruit thrown at her real hard and real fast. He said he was throwing blenders and spoons at her, he made her bleed and orgasm at the same time. She yelled to get out her house after that lmaoo.
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Those both make sense right there. crips started because of who? Who was they're enemy in order to start? None! And -spook hunter's- ended in 1960. Oh okay 👍🏾
They started because Raymond wanted his own gang simple as that, it didn’t need to be started to protect anybody or any buster shi like that because if you like that yall just do it and also nobody gonna do nothin or the police so it couldn’t be because of that either I knew that without knowing the facts
@@nawfslim 🤷🏾
My young brother from Pueblo Bishop put me on to me Jimmy lavender imma say much love and respect to him and my young brothers sethro and top dog from King James GD folks
Can you ask him about why Mr Barnes threw Tookie under the Bus
He speaks on that briefly as the interview progresses.
Solid
Love this shit KM talking truth over bullshit Ayay.
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Staunch Jimmy ...straight up..
I've met him before on the Orange line 🚌 bus in the San Fernando valley. He's always talking about fighting somebody with big old gloves. This is the valley so nobody really take him that serious but that's what I'll be seeing him around doing all the time. Janelle Barnes that is
"Biggest lie ever told" i couldnt agree more.
I dont think anyone ever saw the Crips comin and said the Crips are here, we are safe now 😂 nah, people saw the Crips and they going inside or crossing the street
Raymond went straight for the top dogs 🪖
Did Jimel ever do time on a level 4 yard?
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Jimmy the Bishop 💯💯
Hey Kev, Jimmy said the Crips spread fast because because of Raymonds name. I always thought it was because unlike the gangs before them, the Crips accepted younger and younger kids into the gang.
Am i totally wrong or is the truth somewhere in the middle?
If I may there is some truth to this as well. Raymond was believe to be 15...so how old was the baby crips? 12 .13 .14-year-old. But they followed the oldest...I like your question. We were all just teenagers. I was 16
@@JimmyLavender-oc7jj Thank you Mr Lavender, I'm honoured you even responded to my question.
I always hear people compare gangs like the Crips and Bloods to the tribes of Africa, which always sounded disrespectful to me. The tribes of Africa are actually Nations.
Me personally, I think the closer comparison to Crips and Bloods is not the African tribes, the closer comparison is to the warlords of Africa who only fight for their own personal gain, and who use child soldiers in their armies.
Mr Lavender Looks A Gentleman I Know (Mr James Joshua) From Pine Bluff, Arkansas. They Look Almost Identical 👊🏿.
What you know about pine Bluff
6:48 Hatfield and Mccoy?
Who??
Influencers influencing influencers
Im from NYC and when i started watching your channel I realize that was lie also. Many of us got that idea from Cleo Sloane documentary "BASTARDS OF THE PARTY"
Jamel is my dad I need an interview
Why no reputable crips called him top 3? Just asking...
Because of what he said
Skull from 8 TRAY did
Ckrabs hate the truth
@@keithdudley9199head huncho did also
Community Revolutionary In Progress C.R.I.P Biggest Lie Ever Told 😂😂😂
Facts NYC crips created that and WC crips adopted it and don't give them kredit for it
@@UBNSWOOPIt was in monster Kodys book
@@TreworldLegendary77 so what ?
@@UBNSWOOP So how did NYC crips create it?
@@TreworldLegendary77 tookie book didn't come out until 2004 there been off brands crips in NYC way before that book 📙
You act like tookie started crip or something ... tookie copied everything from others just like Raymond etc.
The crips are known from copying/stealing without giving credit to the originals
That's common knowledge
Nowadays gangs only fight they own homies, shoot at enemys..... Its not a team sport nomore
1969 CRIPS ♿️
1 Raymond Edison Jr High
2 Tookie Horrace Mann Jr High
3 Jimel Charles Drew Jr High
My gramma stayed on the westside Raymond would sneak in her window on the corner of 3rd ave 74th he knew all van ness boys but hated them Inglewood ninjas he didn’t know them EASTSIDE shit rip the king ♿️
oh ya don’t forget bulldog at Bethune Jr high
Is Jimel still in Tennessee?
Bigger question would be, if Jimel didn’t bad mouth tookie, would everyone’s opinion of him be different and give him credit to be one of the top crips?
Jimel said Raymond was my homeboy in 1968 the beginning of the CRIPS Raymond was deebo , Jimel could crack jokes on Raymond “ I BE QUIET BUT WHEN HE LEAVE I BE TALKING AGAIN” 🤣 💙 ♿️ EASTSIDE shit
What??
@@Chevyboiz go watch Friday
He keeping it real from somebody that was on the east side ppl get jimel confused cause of his mental capacity
Think about it. If Jimel was as soft as some people make him out to be,then why would Tookie always be with him. It doesn’t add up. I’ve known Jimel for almost 24 years and the truth is he’s had some mental issues that he can’t help for a while now. I started to see it happening to him in 99-20 where he would start saying a bunch of random stuff. For years he was living on the streets and sleeping on bus stops in the Valley. And I know for a fact he doesn’t drink, smoke, or do any kinds of drugs. So why was he out there? He has a mental illness. I can’t understand how y’all can’t see it. I believe that’s why he said all those things about Tookie. He’s not in his right mind.
It’s about time someone tell the real about Jamel lots of folks don’t be giving Cuh his flowers like fool was just some busta
Let that intro stay on all your vids homie
So you trying to force kevmac to kopykat running his music through out the whole videos the same way... Traumatic El Guapo running his musics through out his live videos?. Do Traumatic aka: Trauma know you trying to get his style but?
Why he can't go bacc to the AVALON s he didn't speak bad about them. And why doesn't Fremont have a Crip SET?
Because the second generation of Eastside Crips didn't hang west of Central Ave. The Swans were formed to fight the Hoovers, by Elvis Dexter and the kids on that side grew up only seeing Swans
Jimel can go back to Avalon whoever said that is not stating facts Ayay
Aren't they only talking trash about Jimel on the internet? People do that to about dang near with everyone on the internet. The internet isn't real life lol.
COMMUNITY REVOLUTION IN PROGRESS 🤣 biggest lie ever told
Yea that’s bullshit idk why they tried to make it seem like it’s for the community it’s okay if it just started cuz yall were tough that’s better than starting because yall were getting hurt
My man Jimmy OVA Mac Thomas Jamal stop it Jimmy are Craig Crowder
I think jimel is up there...Barefoot pookie .Honcho. Mac.is up there...Craig wasn't all over the place like the others...nor was him or Mac very well spoke on in the low bottom. Not to my knowledge..and I went to Jefferson high when it was dominated by crips...this is why I give Jimel the edge...they were all well known...
REVERSE THE CURSE (GENOCIDE) by JAMEL BARNES!!!!!!
JIMEL = FOUNDER (AVALON PARK)
PERIOD
Where is Avalon Park?
@@KevMacVideos my bad Avalon Gardens
Biggest problem with those speaking on Barnes is the massive lack of understanding around mental well-being/ health amongst the Black community in general. C-macC is modern day Jamel Barnes.
Why yall keep running yo mouth about Jimel ?
He been said keep his name out yall mouth
I can understand jimmy’s love for jimel but I wouldn’t put him as top 3. Mack Thomas and barefoot pookie would be higher always
Toss up I believe, pookie nor mack was spoken of much in the low bottom like JB and perhaps because pookie stayed on the west side and mack Compton and Watts....But hey all of them is way up there...
@@kingRey567 very true
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I heard of Mac Thomas being everywhere, never heard of JB in Compton. Didn’t he get KOed in Watts? He top 5 not 3✅
@@jshipp5469you weren't there in the beginning so here's what I'm gonna do with your top 3 list ➡ 🚮
@@MistaCUNextTuesday kinda like ur opinion on this matter it’s pointless
Jimmy kept it real, With all due respect Crips have always been problem starters from the very beginning
Wow he put him over Barefoot Pookie, Buddha or Mack Thomas in top 3. Could it be he's only speaking from an Eastside point of view?
It's a tough call...Now my question to you is do you put Mac over pookie...? I'll go with pookie
@@JimmyLavender-oc7jj me too.
Jimel Barnes was on a level that most Gang Members never could touch ! So if That’s true which I believe then why OG Cutes be lying on Jimel ????
Is it on KM videos what OG Cutes said? If so, I'll look it up
@@anthonybrooks1559 it is
Cutes allegiance is with Tookie, so...
Jimmy tries hard to subliminally trash Raymond...why who knows after 40yrs.....it's sad but God bless all these old men
Top 3 crips (in my honest opinion)
1. Raymond Lee Washington
2.Stanley Tookie Williams
3. Mac Thomas
Now here’s what I think is the problem that people have with Jimel. He threw dirt on his homeboys name when at Tookie’s lowest moment. The man was already about to be executed, why go throw dirt on his name? Was Jimel around in the early days? Perhaps but most people say he was, but his attitude and demeanor kinda rubbed people the wrong way. Take that with a grain of salt. People will probably never give him his dues because of his actions in the early days and based on what he said about Big Took. Had he not said that, who knows what his reputation would be like now.
Let's start education..It will definitely set us free. Those that don't know their history are condemned to repeat it. But it comes a time where you got to keep on pushing on down the line.. And positive progress keep it rolling. A undecided and uneducated man is going to violence because that's all under stand. Get together and unite teach the children well,and know knowledge meaning there's thousands of years of history absolutely about your self than just this little time in history of killing ourselves..