Melvin Kept it 100%. Walter Lundy :Coolaid" was an Original Avalon 5-Tray Crip who was still Crippin from a Wheel-Chair, others that stayed on 52/53rd. South Park all turned Avalon in 1971-1972 time frame. Coolaid stayed on the corner of 53rd and McKinley Ave. Other early Avalon's from South Park were Henry and Reggie Brown, Carl Lee, Alex and Robert Jackson, Johnny Ray who lived on 49th Street, Baby Fats (Donnel) and his brother Larry (lived off 47th and Avalon), Baby Hammer (Roosevelt), Big Head Ralph. This was before Bull Capone and Cartoon were Avalon's after I left and joined the Army in 1974. The Wall Nuts (long defunk) were Kenneth Short (R.I.P Nov 1978), Gary and Terry Miller, Donald and Kenny Smith, Joe and John Humphries, Michael and Kenny Bourgeois, John Seals, Michael Brown, Tony Billingsley, Kenneth Tillman, Wiley Scrutchins and a few others. They were the reason Jimel became a Crip to get help against them when he was leader of the Avalon Gardens Boys. I grew up with Swans, Crips, Walnuts, Denver Lanes, Pueblos, and a whole bunch of others when all of us were youngers before all the gangbanging started in 1969.
This series puts a lot of things together. Very informative. This guy is straight up. One my favorites was the phone interview from Durrough. He said fill in the gaps. It seems like a lot people sat back and watched ,now they like ok , let me set the record straight, that's what he is doing.
@@moblack5883 Well the father is locked up since like a 100 years which is ridicoulous, they put him under the prison, and the son is locked up for a long ass time for just beeing at a crime scene and they put him under the prison too for no damn good reason. I would say free both of them on the quick quick
Melvin have vivid memories and knew a lot of things that goes on, not just West side but all over. Just like Cutes. I wish, he can talk about Cutes as a kid and his "demonstration" as a crip.
I remember Melvin farmer when is was young , I used go to the workshop disco on 91 and western and eat at fast eddie steak house on Manchester and western , and batman from 8tray gangsters
That's true , Raymond, Tookie, Jimel , the 3 founders of the crip gang, Jimel was from avalon gardens, jimel use to knock niggas out downtown Los Angeles, at the state theater on 7 & Broadway from 1971 to 1975
How did the hood get the hook up on how to do the chemistry on PCP… can’t tell me the government didn’t have a huge hand in that, like so many other things…
One day I hope someone gives an honest interview on Jimel. We know the bad taste he left in people mouth. But an interview on his younger career would be a nice addition to your collection.
If you asked 10 people like myself that saw these guys pretty much on a daily basis about jamel.they would tell you that he was not a gang banger. He was a crip. A body builder that hung out with real crips. And that's a non-biased fact
OG Skull says it best, "if they ain't built for it they spill they guts" Folks think wisely before you jump into something you wasn't made for. Stay in your lane and be square ain't nothing wrong with that. 💯
I always wondered, was Raymond Washington ok/approved what was going on in the streets while he was in jail. Did he give tookie the ok? Or did they do him dirty? According to AC he lost all control and power when he came out and was just like any other member. How come know one talks about that Kev?
He still had power, just not as much as he had before. Also by the time he came out, there were more so clicks opposed to the Westside/Eastside thing. He was allegedly killed by Hoovers for pulling rank. Well “rank” that he no longer had.
@@EarsTotheStreetsMedia I can see that happening. According to Alex Alonso the person who killed him is still alive today so they won’t name him. Would love to get the real story and reason behind that.
what did he say about that guy "big james (garret)" a movie charactero is based on him..? i assume the 1980 movie attica with morgan freeman?...or what? attica prison is in new york
I could do a Jimel Barnes interview... When I met him he was 50 plus, and he has some connection to the goosen's dont know if he had a pro fight, or was thinking about having a pro fight... Do You know Lavar Ball? Jimel " I trained lavar on my samson system... I taught all the his boys how to shoot, on the quick quick... quick quick.... Lavar said he dont know you... Jimel " they must have gave him a piece of dope"
Jimel also said he "used to take Eazy, Cube and Dre to the park and show them how to rap when they was 9,10,11 years old" and he "used to be over there in Compton with eazys momma" 😂😂😂
G cell from 40 Avalon said it in his verse on bangin on wax at “what you know about Jamel and big tookie at green meadows doing dips I was just a youngin” they relationship was tight basically in the 70s big jacc is my uncle 💯
I think the OG is overusing the term "put in work". When he says it... it seems to encompass a lot. I know with Jimel alive he wouldn't get too deep... but was Jimel putting in the same type of work as known men in the streets? Or does he mean Jimel would squabble up etc and represent the C card?
he probably did it all, otherwise he couldn't hang with the type of people he hung with and have the status he had. he grew up in watts, people used to shoot at eacher in watts when the westside and compton were still middle class. he also got shot in 1971, riddled with bullets. he went to locke high for a short time. people there were definitly shooting and doing the serious shit in 69,70,71 where jimel is from he probably slowed down somewhere down the line and let the younger ones do the shooting etc.
@@JosephMBlack10 he was in YTS with king bobalouie etc. when the bloods were founded and was running the crips in YTS . that's what AC says in his book. They were all in there for serious crimes for a very short time (murder etc.), that's how it was back then. it's common sense that he had to be with business
59 brims, 1969 , little country ,big country, east side outlaws from Jefferson high school , which was the acey ducey , all east crips are the little brothers of the business men , that used to meet at south park on 51 and avalon bl
Cutes said the West broke into sets and Barefoot Pookie told TOOKIE to his Face when he came to Visit along with other CRIP leader s who became OG s of this SET s . SO TOOKIE ALREADY KNEW AND HAD NO SAY ANYMORE🤷
From what Melvin is saying (and maybe I could be hearing wrong), Jimel was Chris Bosh to Tookie's "Lebron James" stature over the Crips gang. The 3rd wheel basically that's always left out of the hierarchy. He got jealous of Tookie's street cred and swag, but snitched. Jimel might've put in work, but his story has always been conveniently omitted from the legend of the Crips
Jimel never snitched. Read Big Turtoe's book. He meets Tookie on the yard in the pen and asks Tookie about if Jimel snitched. Tookie told him that Jimel didn't snitch.
@@nevascared123that's right i read that book. but he did some serious dry snitching. which is a violation but not as serious as snitching, but he did it while mentally ill and retired...so what... how could he snitch even if he wasn't even there, wasn't a witness, victim, crimey or nothing. tookies crimeys all snitched on him maybe because they tought he was a little too much. tookie suffered from mania due to his pcp abuse, i've been there and done that. and i not tookie by any means, he was mania on steroids. probably literally
There was a Bam in CMC-East back in early 90’s. Many homies, GC and Dumps ETG, Big Poppa 69 ECC, Herman LBCC, and others who always said that Bam was from original West Side, but he would/could have been labeled a NH 60 for real. Is this the same Bam that Skull was talking about? I’ve been waiting a couple years for Kev Mac or S Mac to get to Bam. Many know him as an Original WSC, but I was told he was a RSC/Original West Side Crip
He kind of deflected. He always goes at James Garret but not others but probably because James told on him too which is understandable. & Blackie didn’t get extradited for his testimony he basically got immunity, he was allowed to be out & still committing crimes for some time before he got extradited & committed another murder
Every part I've seen has been FIRE. Thank you Kev Mac for putting this interview together. Skull got knowledge for days
I knew once Melvin got on, he would be in my top 5. Just as solid as I thought he would.
Melvin kept it 100% on Jimel's Crippin.
Melvin Kept it 100%. Walter Lundy :Coolaid" was an Original Avalon 5-Tray Crip who was still Crippin from a Wheel-Chair, others that stayed on 52/53rd. South Park all turned Avalon in 1971-1972 time frame. Coolaid stayed on the corner of 53rd and McKinley Ave. Other early Avalon's from South Park were Henry and Reggie Brown, Carl Lee, Alex and Robert Jackson, Johnny Ray who lived on 49th Street, Baby Fats (Donnel) and his brother Larry (lived off 47th and Avalon), Baby Hammer (Roosevelt), Big Head Ralph. This was before Bull Capone and Cartoon were Avalon's after I left and joined the Army in 1974. The Wall Nuts (long defunk) were Kenneth Short (R.I.P Nov 1978), Gary and Terry Miller, Donald and Kenny Smith, Joe and John Humphries, Michael and Kenny Bourgeois, John Seals, Michael Brown, Tony Billingsley, Kenneth Tillman, Wiley Scrutchins and a few others. They were the reason Jimel became a Crip to get help against them when he was leader of the Avalon Gardens Boys. I grew up with Swans, Crips, Walnuts, Denver Lanes, Pueblos, and a whole bunch of others when all of us were youngers before all the gangbanging started in 1969.
burgeois are the infamous bush-wars that always get mentioned. im glad someone finally spelled that name out
This series puts a lot of things together. Very informative. This guy is straight up. One my favorites was the phone interview from Durrough. He said fill in the gaps. It seems like a lot people sat back and watched ,now they like ok , let me set the record straight, that's what he is doing.
When you google Durroughs name and see how his lineage is involved in alot of LA/Compton stuff.
@@moblack5883 Well the father is locked up since like a 100 years which is ridicoulous, they put him under the prison, and the son is locked up for a long ass time for just beeing at a crime scene and they put him under the prison too for no damn good reason. I would say free both of them on the quick quick
Love all your interviews as a young journalist from NYC these inspire to tell the stories our legends like this
It’s crazy how they can remember all of those guys names. I can’t even remember names of niggaz I graduated HS with.
Jimel Barnes is a Crip legend. He started the Avalons! ♿
Jimel was hated because he was buff and light skinned. Everyone’s saying this. So yeah he have a few screws loose but he was and still is solid
KEV Mac! Y y’all zoom in on my nigga when he was diggin in his nose😂😂😂😂I’m crying 😂😂😂
Melvin have vivid memories and knew a lot of things that goes on, not just West side but all over. Just like Cutes. I wish, he can talk about Cutes as a kid and his "demonstration" as a crip.
Ong. I can’t think of two better reps from 83 than him and Monster when it comes to history. Quality over Quantity at KMV
This was like a movie🍿KMV 1 of 1 none before it none to come and you hit us with that zoom at the end
Around 1974 I lived a couple of blocks over from the Kula Ku's, on 104th & Yukon. I went Monroe Jr High with O.G. Thone at that time.
That's my guy CuHz is a real one I remember the first conversation I had with him like it was yesterday SALUTE COMRAD!!!
A damn good interview ! PEACE 7
That intro dope asl tho loc ♿️
I remember Melvin farmer when is was young , I used go to the workshop disco on 91 and western and eat at fast eddie steak house on Manchester and western , and batman from 8tray gangsters
Melvin a real legendary figure they made up the term putting in work in his era believe that
Good one
That's true , Raymond, Tookie, Jimel , the 3 founders of the crip gang, Jimel was from avalon gardens, jimel use to knock niggas out downtown Los Angeles, at the state theater on 7 & Broadway from 1971 to 1975
Tookie and jimel didn't have anything to do with the start of Crip
Kev always cautions that too...folk got family that could be affected by negative comments.
About time. I skipped all of em just to get to here.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 dope content
My Man Mel tells it like it was and what it is period.
I can listen to the bigger G’z chop game all day
Should be an interesting year for them Tigers and Trojans Fight On ✌
Can we get more information about Little James Compton. His name comes up often but it’s not a lot of information about it.
Triple OOOG Skull great man speak to him occasionally.
How did the hood get the hook up on how to do the chemistry on PCP… can’t tell me the government didn’t have a huge hand in that, like so many other things…
would be a very interesting story to hear.
Bubba Loc from 60s in an early Kev Mac interview said the Aryan Brotherhood introduced PCP to Black American gangs.
It came from the Funeral homes...
PCP is formaldehyde...
@@wolf7el356 pcp is phencyclodine and had to be cooked in bath tubs far away from ppl cus the wrong move and it will explode
SKULL A REAL 1 RESPECT 🙏
KM do you know Big Pup from ETG?? is he still around? he was in prison
One day I hope someone gives an honest interview on Jimel. We know the bad taste he left in people mouth. But an interview on his younger career would be a nice addition to your collection.
I think Jimmy Lavender did one and he spoke unbiasedly about Jimel?
@@larose6551 I did see that one. Mr Lavender did speak about him, but I don't remember him touching on Jimels contributions to his crew.
@@larose6551 I went and re-watched that video, it is definitley a good one with a lot of information. Thanks for the reminder.
Head Hauncho did an interview talking about his interview as well.
If you asked 10 people like myself that saw these guys pretty much on a daily basis about jamel.they would tell you that he was not a gang banger. He was a crip. A body builder that hung out with real crips. And that's a non-biased fact
OG Skull says it best, "if they ain't built for it they spill they guts"
Folks think wisely before you jump into something you wasn't made for. Stay in your lane and be square ain't nothing wrong with that. 💯
I always wondered, was Raymond Washington ok/approved what was going on in the streets while he was in jail. Did he give tookie the ok? Or did they do him dirty? According to AC he lost all control and power when he came out and was just like any other member. How come know one talks about that Kev?
He still had power, just not as much as he had before. Also by the time he came out, there were more so clicks opposed to the Westside/Eastside thing. He was allegedly killed by Hoovers for pulling rank. Well “rank” that he no longer had.
I heard he was no longer a street dude, he was into motorcycles.
@@EarsTotheStreetsMedia I can see that happening. According to Alex Alonso the person who killed him is still alive today so they won’t name him. Would love to get the real story and reason behind that.
@@PatrickEvans-x1v yeah I hear that he was trying to leave the streets and clean up his life.
He said blacie was sent out the country what county was he from...
Canada
KevMav look like jimel don't he?? Hahaha
💀💀💀 jimel might be his daddy 👀
what did he say about that guy "big james (garret)"
a movie charactero is based on him..? i assume the 1980 movie attica with morgan freeman?...or what?
attica prison is in new york
The police beat Blackie into saying it was Tookie...in tookie's words. They almost beat Blackie to death in the cell
I can believe that
What I want to know what was the reason for killing them Asians and the hotel worker?
I could do a Jimel Barnes interview... When I met him he was 50 plus, and he has some connection to the goosen's dont know if he had a pro fight, or was thinking about having a pro fight... Do You know Lavar Ball? Jimel " I trained lavar on my samson system... I taught all the his boys how to shoot, on the quick quick... quick quick.... Lavar said he dont know you... Jimel " they must have gave him a piece of dope"
Jimel also said he "used to take Eazy, Cube and Dre to the park and show them how to rap when they was 9,10,11 years old" and he "used to be over there in Compton with eazys momma" 😂😂😂
G cell from 40 Avalon said it in his verse on bangin on wax at “what you know about Jamel and big tookie at green meadows doing dips I was just a youngin” they relationship was tight basically in the 70s big jacc is my uncle 💯
I'm white af..socal surfer never been in a gang..and I find this stuff interesting af. Is that weird
This is the first generation of Crips that started going to prison.
💯💯💯
Melvin straight real talk..
I think the OG is overusing the term "put in work". When he says it... it seems to encompass a lot. I know with Jimel alive he wouldn't get too deep... but was Jimel putting in the same type of work as known men in the streets? Or does he mean Jimel would squabble up etc and represent the C card?
he probably did it all, otherwise he couldn't hang with the type of people he hung with and have the status he had.
he grew up in watts, people used to shoot at eacher in watts when the westside and compton were still middle class. he also got shot in 1971, riddled with bullets. he went to locke high for a short time. people there were definitly shooting and doing the serious shit in 69,70,71 where jimel is from
he probably slowed down somewhere down the line and let the younger ones do the shooting etc.
@@bigbaba4542 Jimel said himself he never used a gun ever.
@@bigbaba4542 And he never been behind the wall so how much WORK was he putting in? 🤔
@@JosephMBlack10 he was in YTS with king bobalouie etc. when the bloods were founded and was running the crips in YTS . that's what AC says in his book. They were all in there for serious crimes for a very short time (murder etc.), that's how it was back then. it's common sense that he had to be with business
@@JosephMBlack10 that doesn't mean anything, though.
kool aide was from Avalon before they were 5 trays
Others Say he was from 4-Trays. Walter " Kool Aid " Lundy. But he did live by South Park, So most likely you're right.
@@joemosely9383 we’re family
@@willierobinson8219 I know his daughter & son in law.
@@joemosely9383 his daughters by shelly welly
@@willierobinson8219 I forgot the moms name. It's the oldest daughter that grew up on the Eastside.
he said how bam told if he got life wit out ..its plenty of dudes who snitched not to get the death penalty and got life wit out
Facts.
59 brims, 1969 , little country ,big country, east side outlaws from Jefferson high school , which was the acey ducey , all east crips are the little brothers of the business men , that used to meet at south park on 51 and avalon bl
Cutes said the West broke into sets and Barefoot Pookie told TOOKIE to his Face when he came to Visit along with other CRIP leader s who became OG s of this SET s . SO TOOKIE ALREADY KNEW AND HAD NO SAY ANYMORE🤷
False
He right he is the face of the crips big tookie
Jimel and tookie become close during 1971
He think he slick with them 3’s on his shirt
Kev vlad tv'ing joe roganing the fuck out of us these small as clips. But its appreciated. But gaaaahd damn kevy!
59 brims moved to San Diego
I got much respect 🫡 for OG but that shit with blaccy is bs !! He was not a kid when he snitch on Tookie
Damn. @kevmac did Bam ever get his Life sentence overturned? Or is the brother still in?
The bam he’s talking about is out, I ran across him in the joint. There’s another Bam that’s still locked up.
''You need to know who you messing around with''...fa sho, fa sho. Push come to shove, two-thirds of them 'co-defendants' gone end up being turncoats.
From what Melvin is saying (and maybe I could be hearing wrong), Jimel was Chris Bosh to Tookie's "Lebron James" stature over the Crips gang. The 3rd wheel basically that's always left out of the hierarchy. He got jealous of Tookie's street cred and swag, but snitched. Jimel might've put in work, but his story has always been conveniently omitted from the legend of the Crips
Jimel never snitched. Read Big Turtoe's book. He meets Tookie on the yard in the pen and asks Tookie about if Jimel snitched. Tookie told him that Jimel didn't snitch.
@@nevascared123that's right i read that book. but he did some serious dry snitching. which is a violation but not as serious as snitching, but he did it while mentally ill and retired...so what...
how could he snitch even if he wasn't even there, wasn't a witness, victim, crimey or nothing.
tookies crimeys all snitched on him maybe because they tought he was a little too much. tookie suffered from mania due to his pcp abuse, i've been there and done that. and i not tookie by any means, he was mania on steroids. probably literally
There was a Bam in CMC-East back in early 90’s. Many homies, GC and Dumps ETG, Big Poppa 69 ECC, Herman LBCC, and others who always said that Bam was from original West Side, but he would/could have been labeled a NH 60 for real. Is this the same Bam that Skull was talking about? I’ve been waiting a couple years for Kev Mac or S Mac to get to Bam. Many know him as an Original WSC, but I was told he was a RSC/Original West Side Crip
Your Talking About lil Ke-Ke's (60) Older Brother is Bam from W/S Crips.
Skull Speaking on Bam from Hoover.
Good looking
Hoover Bam
No! Bam was from 74 Hoover not to mix up with Big Bam from 83 Hoover.
He kind of deflected. He always goes at James Garret but not others but probably because James told on him too which is understandable. & Blackie didn’t get extradited for his testimony he basically got immunity, he was allowed to be out & still committing crimes for some time before he got extradited & committed another murder
Didn't he say he got to leave the country as in deported...I think that's what he said..
I definitely remember the Acey Deucey's.
Couldn’t have said it no clearer 🤏🏿