one of the worst things in this game is the way they allow roman shields to deflect bullets. The reason people stopped using shields a couple hundred years ago is because they DON'T stop or deflect bullets. A musket punches right through. A sniper rifle bullet wouldn't even notice the shield was there.
Pretty sure if they were entrenched in positions waiting for an invasion like this scenario they would have ammo crates handy. Considering in america alone the military stockpiles more bullets than there are people on the planet.@@romeolajh1602
While kinda interesting,I'm pretty sure Roman soldiers could beat on an Abrams until they couldn't lift their arms anymore and still the Abrams would be fine.
Here's the thing: It doesn't matter how many archers or sword men you have, let's say 10 million, they will NEVER stop an Abrams tank. Even if they run out of ammo and fuel, there's nothing arrows and swords can do to that tank. Go ahead, clang your sword off the side of it all day long. Both the sword and you will buckle before you've even made a dent.
Something else occurred to me, Romans and Greeks are really love and are fearful of their gods, including zeus. So you have these romans, running off of their boats, seeing the enemy that doesn't even look human, cuz I've never seen anybody wear anything that looks even remotely like what they're wearing, holding a stick that fires lightning, thousands of shots, and is able to mow them down before they're even close to them. Plus, it seems even the Rocks above and Behind these things are throwing lightning at them from far distances. Damn well guarantee you that a majority of these guys are going to think that the gods are after them trying to kill them and will probably drop their weapons neither ball and prayed and not be killed, or they'll try to run away from these things trying to kill them. I doubt very seriously, that they would make it up to the first line of americans, cuz after seeing hundreds of thousands thousands, and millions of their fellow men destroyed exploded burnt to a crisp they would be looking to either give up or run away to safety so they can regroup. As a matter of fact, I think that's exactly what the generals would do after a while if they would try to gather the remaining troops left and you wanted to things, either a try to have them do a arrowhead approach straight into the middle, or pull them back regroup and try to figure out what to do, and during that time, the rest of the US Army would just Arc around them and just shoot them like fish in a barrel. Not even a contest
The reason the it didn't work out for the Americans in the simulation in World War ii, was because, the same person who programmed the strategies in this one, must have programmed the strategies and that one, and like I said, he has no experience, because he got the response and the reaction to the US soldiers totally and completely wrong. Any army, at least since the 1800s, who has their whole Force stand in one spot, so they can be chopped down easily, it's not going to be living long themselves. This was amusing, but wildly and completely not possible and fake
@@Kyle-l9nin the real world this wouldn’t even be a fight. The shields would at best deflect 1% of the bullets from the infantry but the Abram’s could just drive around and literally roll them down. Every snaper would get most likely 5 kills per mag of 10. Plus the army if only using the army has helicopters that would destroy most of the boats before hitting the beach. And really if a single nuke was fired it would obliterate every one on that map of the game.
Just a point of clarification: if it is ground based, it is C-RAM (Counter-Rocket-Artillery-Mortar). If it is ship (water) based, it is CIWS (Close-In-Weapon-System).
I’m a retired Navy sailor who used both variants. (1122,1145) AxiGaming is correct. But I will add one thing. The gun mount itself is actual LPWS (Land-based Phalanx Weapon System). CRAM is the whole overall system of base protection. The guns are just the “response” phase…
Something I think would be fun, would be to see a reverse version where americas enemy’s storm a beach held by romes enemy’s, and have it like a time portal switch.
I guess we never heard of Armored piercing rounds going through a shield, splitting the guy holding it in half. 50 cals don't get deflected by shields. I happen to have been US Army Infantry for 5 years, Signal Corpsman another 5. Nukes would have been used, A 10s Brrrrrting, Apaches, 4.2 inch Mortars, Howies. But those Nukes would have done the job before they landed. They really weren't facing a modern Army.
@@Rytoast99 the shields are 3 layers of wood with leather and canvas. Thats definitely enough to stop a 5.56. Hell the entire reason the military is switching to 6.8 is because of penetrating power of 5.56 bud.
@@corbintodd9339 There's a video by DemolitionRanch where they shoot a knight's metal shield with a pistol and it blows right through, I'm pretty sure a rifle would treat a wooden shield like paper.
If there's 7,000,000 targets and 40,000 guns that's 175 rounds per gun to hit each target once... That's light work. Let's say they hit 1/4 of the time. That's 700 rounds per gun. Still light work. This discounts area kill weapons like missiles and tank rounds killing 10-12 at a time. In reality there would also be a lot of multi target hits in a fighting environment like this. FMJ bullets would be going through people and hitting other people behind them. This is why we don't charge in big clusters of guys in modern warfare. 1 bullet can travel through a bunch of guys before it stops. Especially those C-RAMS. The Romans were already given a huge fake advantage by their shields deflecting modern bullets which is complete bullshit. I'm not going to argue this point, just go build something that can stop a standard NATO M855 round and see how tough it is to stop one and that's the smallest, weakest round we'd be using in a battle like this. M855 is an armor piercing round that's the standard go-to in every military engagement since Vietnam. It's the bread and butter of the US Military and every magazine on this battlefield would have had 30 of them in it. Each one of those rounds would have gone clean through any of those roman shields without hesitation. The next big advantage the Romans had in this battle is the US inability to fall back or move at all to widen the distance. The last thing a competent tank commander would do is sit there and let his tank be surrounded when he could just put it in gear and take off turning the Romans into ground beef then all you'd have to do is drive your tank backwards at slightly more than a walking pace and use the ring mounted machine gun with its armor piercing rounds to mow the yard of Romans until you're out of ammo then just turn around and leave the area to refuel and reload then rejoin the battle. One good tank commander and a far off place to resupply is all we'd need to destroy a 7,000,000 man army on foot. The tank can run fast and cover long distances without fatigue. Each day the soldiers would lose morale, speed, and effectiveness while the tank crew would end each day driving to their base to refuel, eat, shower, shave, then go fight some more. Whatever the Romans need they'd have to carry with them and the tank can take the fight wherever they want because they can move to attack from any direction and target the Romans any time of day from distances beyond eyesight. The Romans would be getting hit by something and wouldn't even know where it is. Once the tank rounds are used up just swing in close to spray a few thousand more down keeping them in machine gun range but out of their archer's range. Once you're out of ammo just drive back to base say 100 miles away. The Romans would have no way to know where the base is unless they track the tank but that's why you go a different way and attack from a different direction each day. You'd have the Romans wearing themselves out in a hopeless circle terrified of the next surprise attack from beyond the horizon. Remember, at this point there's no resupply for the Romans and they're eating several tons of food per day and are no closer to ending this engagement in victory. Their supply lines would also be severed by the tank because it can track anything bringing supplies to the Romans before it could successfully reach them. Whatever method they'd use to get those supplies in would be an easy kill for the tank and probably be the most effective way to control the engagement. It would force the Romans back to protect and shorten their supply lines and in doing so push them further from the base resupplying the tank. All in all hopeless for the Romans as bad ass as they were. I'll leave with this last thought. The modern US Military including all of its reserves, branch components, special units, literally everyone would amount to less than 5,000,000 people unless you start counting federal law enforcement too. Regardless, that's in a country of 350,000,000 people. I'm not sure there were 7,000,000 people in the Roman empire, much less 7,000,000 Roman soldiers at any given time. I could be wrong but as far as I know WW2 Russia is the only time there were that many people fighting under 1 flag and it was literally every man woman child cow and dog in Russia pushing the Nazis back. So fake advantages for the Romans in this simulation: Shields deflecting modern bullets An impossibly large army for the time period The US can't utilize movement or long range weapon systems The US can't utilize cover or geographical advantages that we definitely would use in a real fight The US is all clumped together like retards waiting to be over run instead of spreading out or even using a flank strategy to maximize their effectiveness. Basically the Romans in this simulation couldn't have had it better but still lose
@@Naasbc355 Since you point the advantage of the roman I'm gonna say the US one, think the main unreal thing are the solder firing through solder, only the first line must fire, plus the indistructible tank, put a sword in the gun and one in the track for disabilitate it. Also the frendly fire, imagin a nuke that only damage the enemy, unreal. and the unlimited ammo.
lol who made this video? Roman shields deflecting bullets? The Roman Scutum was made with three thin sheets of wood and covered with leather and canvas. It could barely stop arrows. A 5.56 round would go through it like it wasn’t even there.
A Roman shield ain’t even gonna stop a .22 lr…. Those shields are literally like 1/16th inch steal or copper meant to stop a sword attack. Not anything bullet of any kind and that’s the same for their body armor as well
Couple of issues I have as a U.S. Army Veteran 1. Where 's the kevlar? Modern combat units wear kevlar. 2. Armour piercing bullets, which we use. 3. Having the soldiers standing in huge lines in a static formation. That's the British technique that they get used back in the war against the us, that is not us technique, we do not stand in one side out in the open where we can be picked up one by one, we dig ditches we have fortifications we don't just stand there. 4. The Weaponry is junk, I imagine the front lines are just using M-16s, in semi auto, cause if they were used as a Squad weapon, there would be more casualties. 5. Drones. No modern American .military would go into battle without them, and, because they can carry Ordnance directly over the Romans where their Shields won't do them any good, they could take out the back flank of these guys and leave only the front plank for the rest of them to take out. 6. The same issue all over-- someone lived the Brits of 1776. Every since the Revolutionary war, the military is not had US troops stand in line and shoot or stand in line and shoot bows and arrows or stand in line and throw grenades. That just ain't happening. Whoever designed this program obviously doesn't know a damn thing about US military tactics and procedures. Also, the US Army has helicopters that can take him out in the sky and go high enough that their arrows won't get them. 7. US Army soldier still have bayonets, and they're still trained in basic training how to use them so it wouldn't be the Romans just running up and running swords through them they would be some physical fighting as well. Not to mention, that a lot of them would have pistols to go with their rifles so if it became close quarter fighting they could take the bayonet grab their pistol and Slash and shoot up close also, the Roman army is human, and no matter what their Legend says about how tough they are, they're individually Just as prone to fear as anybody else. 8. Nukes. Did not see even 1. Pocket. Nuke. (mini nuke). 9. We have way more Abrams Tanks similar to showing in that demonstration, and they wouldn't just be sitting there in one spot waiting for the Romans to swarm them, they do have great mobility and the ability to run around and the ability to run over and squish squish. 10. All in the US Services have tactical School in combat School in war school that Colonel's generals and up especially generals have to attend to learn how to use different new technical processes and procedures. 11. Where's the BIG nukes, to hit the ships early, before they can offload ? 12. You are way underestimating the Firepower of our various Weapons Systems weapons and people. The Romans are strong, they're tough, but that's really all they were was big strong tough fighting machines. They didn't have individual strategies or techniques or anything like that. The one advantage that the US has always had in war against most nations, is that our soldiers from the generals, all the way down to a private, are given the ability to think for themselves and take action if they're in a situation where they don't have any support around them. Not every Medal of Honor winner was a sergeant or a captain, some of them were privates who just took over when the officers were killed and led everybody to Victory or to safety 13. The US military are not suicide bombers. We want to live, and we're going to do everything we can to make sure we live most Roman soldiers and other soldiers of that era, were taught that you go and fight and you die for the king or the emperor whoever, they weren't expected to come back, the other job was going there kill and be killed. So that gives the US military in advantage, because we do want to live, so we're going to make sure that you die and we stand there and watch you bleed out 14. We also have drone tanks, that can wait until a battle with no humans in them, so I can control him from a distance, and to even more damage cuz they don't have to worry about saving the lives of the people inside. 15. We have almost always been the victors everywhere in the world, so we go into every battle with the confidence that we are going to win, that we have God on our side, and that we are better than any other Army in the world, that guarantees that we're going to be a much stronger harder fighter 16. There is no way that they would take down the mobile standing artillery like that, bowling machines are massive and heavy, and their designs that you can't get that close to them Finally, the reason that the US was always going to win, is that we hadn't even committed even half of our forces. That was just Army and a few police officers. We didn't even pulled in the Navy or the Marines or the Air force, cuz we didn't need them. As I said, whoever designed this thing has obviously never been in the military and never served in the forward combat area, or they would have made this a lot more realistic
Omg what? 😂 Its a Video Game, and He even used bow FBI Units for fun. You seem reeeeeeeally upset that Some US soldiers died...again in a Video Game that is played for fun😂 did you write this Long Text under the influence of Something? 😅😂
Roman advantages are hand-to-hand combat, numbers while they last, and they don't need bullets. Once ammo is depleted, advantage goes to the Romans. Nukes were really too close unless it was scorch the Earth and suicide.
“If you find yourself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!”
At the end of the battle does it give you stats? Like which group got more kills. If so can you start sharing them. Very interested what us army groups had the most kills
According to a Colonel who worked in US Army,( I know him on Quora) said that only 10% of the army in direct combat, including infantry, artillery, tank crews, combat engineers,machine gunners. In total, if the us army uses it's all troops, only 20% of the total personnels will be at the frontline,such as edic and mentioned units. others are supportive, included chefs, commanders, transport and logistics personals, communication personals. Which means, that only 45,000 personals are actually in combat （2024, based on total troops of 450,000)
@@Andrew_NJ My point exactly, wooden shields that the Romans fielded in service are wholly incapable of deflecting projectiles of modern calibers. Maybe like slung stones or wooden pieces but definitely not supersonic pieces of metal specifically meant to tear through a skull.
You could add ground attack warthogs,mines,and the inevitable 1/7 Cav Aircavalry Bell Huyi helicopter squadron,once in a while youd hear the ride of the Valkyries music.Great job this scene keep up the good work!...
19:17 RIP RIP POTATO CHIP is my new favorite saying. Also, are there any modern melee units that could be used to counter the melee ability of both ancient and zombie units?
Realistic version of this video: 1 ICBM gets fired and victory. Or literally the bullets just shred the Roman’s armor and victory within 10 minutes and probably 0 casualties on the US side.
CWIS stands for Close-In Weapon System. Sort of like a last defense weapon that can be set for ground targets with a 3,000 round per minute fire rate, or it can be set for air targets with a 4,500 rounds per minute fire rate.
This map is cool, but the Romans are losing 4k a second before the Americans even start firing! I love playing this game but I wish they could fix the 'poor bastard's who drown before the battle even starts' glitch! Excellent vids btw 👍
Next battle simulation? A squadron of B-52's against 20,000 Spartans. Will the spears prove to be effective as an anti-aircraft weapon? Will the Spartan's shields be able to provide protection against the Stratofortresses payload? . . .Stay tuned . . .
Bro! Dude!!! I just had an amazing idea ...you should do a war with 'Nagging Wives' versus Men Who Fight Women or Husbands Who Had Enough and Fight Back!
Last time I was this early, dirt was newly discovered on earth. I had watched a similar video with zombies vs CW1 guns which were lined up on the bluffs. Think the gun team won but there wasn’t the kill/death count as you have on your videos.
Certainly, even in a beach defense, the defense would show some strategic flexibility. Allowing the Abrams to be surrounded, doubt it. And the attackers seem to be showing no struggle of advancing through their dead which would most likely be hills of screaming flesh.
I honestly think the Roman army mobility would be much less after mountains of dead, the advance would be much harder at some point because the piles of dead they would be forced to flank the side of the piles simply because it be hard to advance and climb the bodies, they dead would be good shields, but it will play in favor of us. Army
As a non military numpty I can be put straight on this....I watched a clip were a bloke fired an M16 continuously, and it burst into flames after about the 5th mag.
I have to agree with other commenters - the Roman shields are not going to totally deflact bullets. And the mountain of dead roman bodies that the live roman soldiers have to climb is going to put them at a further disadvantage.
Ah yes. The greatest generation can’t hold up against Roman’s but the modern army can. Roman’s would cry against 30-06, 30 cal lmgs and 50 cal plus Sherman’s and air raids.
At he height of the Roman Empire it barely had more than a few hundrand thousand troops. In its entire history it never topped 2 million. Where are you getting the 7 million from?
The Abrams are being underused. Not only can it fire effectively on the move with main gun, the .50 cal would just mow more down. Plus, no Roman is stopping an Abrams and it should just drive around and mow dudes down. Put a grizzly mine sweeper on that and even better.
In a defensive action, troops with machine guns would protect the tanks. Also, add in a few apache helicopters, warhogs, and other fighter bombers. If the flanks were attacked, or hit with enfilading fire, they would turn and run. They weren't stupid.
The troops would be in fortified bunkers, fighting positions the tanks would be behind them acting as artillery. Also for every squad there are two SAWS and for ever platoon are two 240gs. Squad leader would have 203s etc. Romans would have not chance in the open field
Number 1, Roman field commander would have stopped immediately because of bullets, cannon fire that would decimate the Roman Army. The battle would have stopped immediately. Numbers like 7 million is meaningless in face of superior firepower of the American army. This battle does not make sense, period. The Roman soldiers act like zombies charging hopelessly into the barrage of bullets and cannon fire.
Where’s the Bradley’s? Where’s humvees with mounted mk19s and 50 cal, where’s fighter jets, Apache? Missing a lot of huge assets the military actually has
So none of the infantry knew how to throw a javelin? Where are the Roman artillery units? What about their cavalry? But yet there's a million generals? That's one general for every 6 soldiers.
They never seem to work when I watch Daley's vids. I was wondering if in this one they were too far back from the ledge, and if LOS is needed, then they certainly were. Maybe overall they're glitchy anyway?
Factoring in the unlimited amount of ammo for the tanks and soldiers, and the effective range of tank gun HEAP rounds and mounted machine guns, no Roman would ever had lived to get into range for arrows.
interesting. but bear in mind the romans never charged at will (willy nilly) they were very systematic and tactical in their battle formations and strategies
one of the worst things in this game is the way they allow roman shields to deflect bullets. The reason people stopped using shields a couple hundred years ago is because they DON'T stop or deflect bullets. A musket punches right through. A sniper rifle bullet wouldn't even notice the shield was there.
Stole the words right out of my mouth
A 50 caliber couldve hit several romans at once even with their shields
what about us soldiers having unlimited ammo?
Instead of 120 bullets which is reality?
So then we can make things realistic
@@romeolajh1602what about 7m romans?? Where the heck did they find a 7 million romans?
Pretty sure if they were entrenched in positions waiting for an invasion like this scenario they would have ammo crates handy. Considering in america alone the military stockpiles more bullets than there
are people on the planet.@@romeolajh1602
While kinda interesting,I'm pretty sure Roman soldiers could beat on an Abrams until they couldn't lift their arms anymore and still the Abrams would be fine.
it would be like nothing happend
@@M4A1_DELTA6no no the paint would be scuffed
Yeah this isn’t a realistic game, it’s purely for shits and giggles
yeah depleted uranium vs. bronze age garbage? lol
NOOOOO
Here's the thing: It doesn't matter how many archers or sword men you have, let's say 10 million, they will NEVER stop an Abrams tank. Even if they run out of ammo and fuel, there's nothing arrows and swords can do to that tank. Go ahead, clang your sword off the side of it all day long. Both the sword and you will buckle before you've even made a dent.
Real
That's what I was thinking. They have nothing to stop a tank. After their ammo is spent, they can drive through the attacking force.
@@Play-time707 The weakest part of a tank is precisely driving it. A bush could do more damage than 100000 arrows
Bruh all they'd have to do is just climb on top of it, pry open the hatch, game.over
Just surround and camp around the tank and let the crew either surronder or let them die out of thirst
I wonder if the tanks could do more damage just driving into the onslaught and driving around
Funny enough, the tracks are the weakest part of the tank and they get fucked up all the time. Even with bushes.
Just like the horse drawn chariots with sharp attachments on the wheels.
In the real world, they would be driving around shooting
Something else occurred to me, Romans and Greeks are really love and are fearful of their gods, including zeus. So you have these romans, running off of their boats, seeing the enemy that doesn't even look human, cuz I've never seen anybody wear anything that looks even remotely like what they're wearing, holding a stick that fires lightning, thousands of shots, and is able to mow them down before they're even close to them. Plus, it seems even the Rocks above and Behind these things are throwing lightning at them from far distances. Damn well guarantee you that a majority of these guys are going to think that the gods are after them trying to kill them and will probably drop their weapons neither ball and prayed and not be killed, or they'll try to run away from these things trying to kill them. I doubt very seriously, that they would make it up to the first line of americans, cuz after seeing hundreds of thousands thousands, and millions of their fellow men destroyed exploded burnt to a crisp they would be looking to either give up or run away to safety so they can regroup. As a matter of fact, I think that's exactly what the generals would do after a while if they would try to gather the remaining troops left and you wanted to things, either a try to have them do a arrowhead approach straight into the middle, or pull them back regroup and try to figure out what to do, and during that time, the rest of the US Army would just Arc around them and just shoot them like fish in a barrel. Not even a contest
The reason the it didn't work out for the Americans in the simulation in World War ii, was because, the same person who programmed the strategies in this one, must have programmed the strategies and that one, and like I said, he has no experience, because he got the response and the reaction to the US soldiers totally and completely wrong. Any army, at least since the 1800s, who has their whole Force stand in one spot, so they can be chopped down easily, it's not going to be living long themselves. This was amusing, but wildly and completely not possible and fake
The first battle was one of the least balanced fights to have existed 😂
😂 I completely overestimated the Roman’s
but your reaction to it was worth it@@DaleyTactics
@@DaleyTactics I can’t believe the US Army beat off that many people if you know what I mean💀
😂😂😂
@@Kyle-l9nin the real world this wouldn’t even be a fight. The shields would at best deflect 1% of the bullets from the infantry but the Abram’s could just drive around and literally roll them down. Every snaper would get most likely 5 kills per mag of 10. Plus the army if only using the army has helicopters that would destroy most of the boats before hitting the beach. And really if a single nuke was fired it would obliterate every one on that map of the game.
US deathtoll was probably 99% friendly fire with that much action going on
And its all A-10s fault. Keep having the urge to brrrrrt
Lol 😂
Just a point of clarification: if it is ground based, it is C-RAM (Counter-Rocket-Artillery-Mortar). If it is ship (water) based, it is CIWS (Close-In-Weapon-System).
both systems use the m61 Vulcan and aren't targeting inbound airial projectiles though. But you point is very valid and I appreciated it.
I’m a retired Navy sailor who used both variants. (1122,1145) AxiGaming is correct. But I will add one thing. The gun mount itself is actual LPWS (Land-based Phalanx Weapon System).
CRAM is the whole overall system of base protection.
The guns are just the “response” phase…
Something I think would be fun, would be to see a reverse version where americas enemy’s storm a beach held by romes enemy’s, and have it like a time portal switch.
With catapults, bolt system, fire and Calvery
I get this is for fun but with our air superiority, you'd never even need ground forces.
20 attack helicopters would just do the job
I guess we never heard of Armored piercing rounds going through a shield, splitting the guy holding it in half. 50 cals don't get deflected by shields. I happen to have been US Army Infantry for 5 years, Signal Corpsman another 5. Nukes would have been used, A 10s Brrrrrting, Apaches, 4.2 inch Mortars, Howies. But those Nukes would have done the job before they landed. They really weren't facing a modern Army.
@corbintodd9339 Roman shields are 1/4 of an inch thick and made of wood. 9mm can penetrate 6+ inches of wood and 5.56 can penetrate 8+ inches.
No Roman shield would withstand a 5.56, much less a 308, 6.5, or larger ammo.
Neither would the heads of the US soldiers that 90% of the army was shooting through.
Debatable against 5.56 tbh
@@corbintodd9339no. Its not. It would still penetrate with enough force to be lethal unless they ware wear metal armor behind that shield
@@Rytoast99 the shields are 3 layers of wood with leather and canvas. Thats definitely enough to stop a 5.56. Hell the entire reason the military is switching to 6.8 is because of penetrating power of 5.56 bud.
@@corbintodd9339 There's a video by DemolitionRanch where they shoot a knight's metal shield with a pistol and it blows right through, I'm pretty sure a rifle would treat a wooden shield like paper.
Arrows hurt Abrams but bullets bounce off shields
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😂😂😂 what a joke
it's a game
Their guns will overheat, they can't fire forever like that.
If there's 7,000,000 targets and 40,000 guns that's 175 rounds per gun to hit each target once... That's light work. Let's say they hit 1/4 of the time. That's 700 rounds per gun. Still light work.
This discounts area kill weapons like missiles and tank rounds killing 10-12 at a time.
In reality there would also be a lot of multi target hits in a fighting environment like this. FMJ bullets would be going through people and hitting other people behind them. This is why we don't charge in big clusters of guys in modern warfare. 1 bullet can travel through a bunch of guys before it stops. Especially those C-RAMS. The Romans were already given a huge fake advantage by their shields deflecting modern bullets which is complete bullshit. I'm not going to argue this point, just go build something that can stop a standard NATO M855 round and see how tough it is to stop one and that's the smallest, weakest round we'd be using in a battle like this. M855 is an armor piercing round that's the standard go-to in every military engagement since Vietnam. It's the bread and butter of the US Military and every magazine on this battlefield would have had 30 of them in it. Each one of those rounds would have gone clean through any of those roman shields without hesitation. The next big advantage the Romans had in this battle is the US inability to fall back or move at all to widen the distance. The last thing a competent tank commander would do is sit there and let his tank be surrounded when he could just put it in gear and take off turning the Romans into ground beef then all you'd have to do is drive your tank backwards at slightly more than a walking pace and use the ring mounted machine gun with its armor piercing rounds to mow the yard of Romans until you're out of ammo then just turn around and leave the area to refuel and reload then rejoin the battle. One good tank commander and a far off place to resupply is all we'd need to destroy a 7,000,000 man army on foot. The tank can run fast and cover long distances without fatigue. Each day the soldiers would lose morale, speed, and effectiveness while the tank crew would end each day driving to their base to refuel, eat, shower, shave, then go fight some more. Whatever the Romans need they'd have to carry with them and the tank can take the fight wherever they want because they can move to attack from any direction and target the Romans any time of day from distances beyond eyesight. The Romans would be getting hit by something and wouldn't even know where it is. Once the tank rounds are used up just swing in close to spray a few thousand more down keeping them in machine gun range but out of their archer's range. Once you're out of ammo just drive back to base say 100 miles away. The Romans would have no way to know where the base is unless they track the tank but that's why you go a different way and attack from a different direction each day. You'd have the Romans wearing themselves out in a hopeless circle terrified of the next surprise attack from beyond the horizon. Remember, at this point there's no resupply for the Romans and they're eating several tons of food per day and are no closer to ending this engagement in victory. Their supply lines would also be severed by the tank because it can track anything bringing supplies to the Romans before it could successfully reach them. Whatever method they'd use to get those supplies in would be an easy kill for the tank and probably be the most effective way to control the engagement. It would force the Romans back to protect and shorten their supply lines and in doing so push them further from the base resupplying the tank.
All in all hopeless for the Romans as bad ass as they were. I'll leave with this last thought.
The modern US Military including all of its reserves, branch components, special units, literally everyone would amount to less than 5,000,000 people unless you start counting federal law enforcement too.
Regardless, that's in a country of 350,000,000 people.
I'm not sure there were 7,000,000 people in the Roman empire, much less 7,000,000 Roman soldiers at any given time. I could be wrong but as far as I know WW2 Russia is the only time there were that many people fighting under 1 flag and it was literally every man woman child cow and dog in Russia pushing the Nazis back.
So fake advantages for the Romans in this simulation:
Shields deflecting modern bullets
An impossibly large army for the time period
The US can't utilize movement or long range weapon systems
The US can't utilize cover or geographical advantages that we definitely would use in a real fight
The US is all clumped together like retards waiting to be over run instead of spreading out or even using a flank strategy to maximize their effectiveness.
Basically the Romans in this simulation couldn't have had it better but still lose
@@Naasbc355 Since you point the advantage of the roman I'm gonna say the US one, think the main unreal thing are the solder firing through solder, only the first line must fire, plus the indistructible tank, put a sword in the gun and one in the track for disabilitate it.
Also the frendly fire, imagin a nuke that only damage the enemy, unreal. and the unlimited ammo.
@@Naasbc355 blud wrote a whole ass paragraph ❤❤❤
@@stockey Which is why we are told to recover the weapons from unalived soldiers, do when yours go hot, you can use one of the others
It IS a fantasy scenario. I mean, the Romans never had a population of 7 million at that time, Nevermind the 7 million soldiers.
All those FBI agents there. 😂 I thought this was a Diddy party 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
25,000 Ghillie Snipers on Triangle island with 1,000 modern soldiers holding each bridge Vs. 450,000 Zombies and 50,000 Trolls?
Sir do you have any idea how overpowered trolls are?
@@EcoNBeBop Yup, and there's the challenge.
lol who made this video? Roman shields deflecting bullets? The Roman Scutum was made with three thin sheets of wood and covered with leather and canvas. It could barely stop arrows. A 5.56 round would go through it like it wasn’t even there.
Those Shields could barely stopped arrows
1:03 FBI 😂
Someone needs to crunch the numbers...
Not a battle, it's a MASSACRE
We would have just destroyed the ships in seconds
A Roman shield would do nothing against a 50 caliber Barrett
A Roman shield ain’t even gonna stop a .22 lr…. Those shields are literally like 1/16th inch steal or copper meant to stop a sword attack. Not anything bullet of any kind and that’s the same for their body armor as well
Roman shields are 1/4 of an inch thick and made of wood. 9mm can penetrate 6+ inches of wood and 5.56 can penetrate 8+ inches.
Couple of issues I have as a U.S. Army Veteran
1. Where 's the kevlar? Modern combat units wear kevlar.
2. Armour piercing bullets, which we use.
3. Having the soldiers standing in huge lines in a static formation. That's the British technique that they get used back in the war against the us, that is not us technique, we do not stand in one side out in the open where we can be picked up one by one, we dig ditches we have fortifications we don't just stand there.
4. The Weaponry is junk, I imagine the front lines are just using M-16s, in semi auto, cause if they were used as a Squad weapon, there would be more casualties.
5. Drones. No modern American .military would go into battle without them, and, because they can carry Ordnance directly over the Romans where their Shields won't do them any good, they could take out the back flank of these guys and leave only the front plank for the rest of them to take out.
6. The same issue all over-- someone lived the Brits of 1776. Every since the Revolutionary war, the military is not had US troops stand in line and shoot or stand in line and shoot bows and arrows or stand in line and throw grenades. That just ain't happening. Whoever designed this program obviously doesn't know a damn thing about US military tactics and procedures. Also, the US Army has helicopters that can take him out in the sky and go high enough that their arrows won't get them.
7. US Army soldier still have bayonets, and they're still trained in basic training how to use them so it wouldn't be the Romans just running up and running swords through them they would be some physical fighting as well. Not to mention, that a lot of them would have pistols to go with their rifles so if it became close quarter fighting they could take the bayonet grab their pistol and Slash and shoot up close also, the Roman army is human, and no matter what their Legend says about how tough they are, they're individually Just as prone to fear as anybody else.
8. Nukes. Did not see even 1. Pocket. Nuke. (mini nuke).
9. We have way more Abrams Tanks similar to showing in that demonstration, and they wouldn't just be sitting there in one spot waiting for the Romans to swarm them, they do have great mobility and the ability to run around and the ability to run over and squish squish.
10. All in the US Services have tactical School in combat School in war school that Colonel's generals and up especially generals have to attend to learn how to use different new technical processes and procedures.
11. Where's the BIG nukes, to hit the ships early, before they can offload ?
12. You are way underestimating the Firepower of our various Weapons Systems weapons and people. The Romans are strong, they're tough, but that's really all they were was big strong tough fighting machines. They didn't have individual strategies or techniques or anything like that. The one advantage that the US has always had in war against most nations, is that our soldiers from the generals, all the way down to a private, are given the ability to think for themselves and take action if they're in a situation where they don't have any support around them. Not every Medal of Honor winner was a sergeant or a captain, some of them were privates who just took over when the officers were killed and led everybody to Victory or to safety
13. The US military are not suicide bombers. We want to live, and we're going to do everything we can to make sure we live most Roman soldiers and other soldiers of that era, were taught that you go and fight and you die for the king or the emperor whoever, they weren't expected to come back, the other job was going there kill and be killed. So that gives the US military in advantage, because we do want to live, so we're going to make sure that you die and we stand there and watch you bleed out
14. We also have drone tanks, that can wait until a battle with no humans in them, so I can control him from a distance, and to even more damage cuz they don't have to worry about saving the lives of the people inside.
15. We have almost always been the victors everywhere in the world, so we go into every battle with the confidence that we are going to win, that we have God on our side, and that we are better than any other Army in the world, that guarantees that we're going to be a much stronger harder fighter
16. There is no way that they would take down the mobile standing artillery like that, bowling machines are massive and heavy, and their designs that you can't get that close to them
Finally, the reason that the US was always going to win, is that we hadn't even committed even half of our forces. That was just Army and a few police officers. We didn't even pulled in the Navy or the Marines or the Air force, cuz we didn't need them. As I said, whoever designed this thing has obviously never been in the military and never served in the forward combat area, or they would have made this a lot more realistic
As a veteran you probably have a lot more issues than that 😉
Thanks for protecting my contry 🫡
Omg what? 😂 Its a Video Game, and He even used bow FBI Units for fun. You seem reeeeeeeally upset that Some US soldiers died...again in a Video Game that is played for fun😂 did you write this Long Text under the influence of Something? 😅😂
@ He is just saying the game is unnacurate, if you don’t want to read it then don’t. also don’t disrespect a veteran
@ThomasWalling-s4w its fucking US Army against 7 Million Romans... Of course its innacurate 😂
No Roman shield could stop a modern rifle bullet.
Factoid: The Romans had Javelins, so immediately you put them in a lose situation.
The "S.W." in SWAT stands for "Special Weapons" ha It makes sense they have the bows and flamethrowers ha
Roman advantages are hand-to-hand combat, numbers while they last, and they don't need bullets. Once ammo is depleted, advantage goes to the Romans. Nukes were really too close unless it was scorch the Earth and suicide.
Romans get deleted long before depletion of ammo.
one of the first times ive seen a defending army be shrunk instead of the attacker army being buffed. interesting switch
Yeah. Same, I was expecting him to buff the attackers not weaken the defenders
NCR vs the Legion. Need a Hoover Dam map
lol waaaat? The idea that a Roman scutum would prevent an M1 Garand from blowing that Roman away is LUDICROUS!
Gotta give props to these Romans. They’re not standing a chance but went in anyway.
Why are the tanks not "rolling over" the troops ? I can put more holes in this video, than there are in swiss cheese. lol
IRL this battle would have been over before they reached the sands lol
Day 23 of asking for empire at war play through
“If you find yourself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!”
It's a crock of you know what that a Roman shield, or any shield for that matter, would stop a modern bullet . Their metallurgy was not that advanced
At the end of the battle does it give you stats? Like which group got more kills. If so can you start sharing them. Very interested what us army groups had the most kills
Sadly no, I really wish it did. It also has wrong numbers at the top right most of the time
According to a Colonel who worked in US Army,( I know him on Quora) said that only 10% of the army in direct combat, including infantry, artillery, tank crews, combat engineers,machine gunners.
In total, if the us army uses it's all troops, only 20% of the total personnels will be at the frontline,such as edic and mentioned units. others are supportive, included chefs, commanders, transport and logistics personals, communication personals.
Which means, that only 45,000 personals are actually in combat （2024, based on total troops of 450,000)
I dunno if a piece of wood can deflect rounds designed to rip through armor.
Roman shields are 1/4 of an inch thick and made of wood. 9mm can penetrate 6+ inches of wood and 5.56 can penetrate 8+ inches.
@@Andrew_NJ My point exactly, wooden shields that the Romans fielded in service are wholly incapable of deflecting projectiles of modern calibers. Maybe like slung stones or wooden pieces but definitely not supersonic pieces of metal specifically meant to tear through a skull.
@@TheImperialSovietthose shields couldn't even stop a musket bullet. The reason why hand held shields became obsolete once gun powder came to life.
This feels like a infographics show video 💀
Info graphics show don't have equality graphics they only talk about how successfully ukrsine is holding russia back. 😂
Great video! We wouldnt do well without that unlimited ammo though 😂.
😂😂😂roman soldiers on higgins boats !!! I frickn lost it 🤣
You could add ground attack warthogs,mines,and the inevitable 1/7 Cav Aircavalry Bell Huyi helicopter squadron,once in a while youd hear the ride of the Valkyries music.Great job this scene keep up the good work!...
A Roman shield against a 50 caliber bullet?? You have to be kidding me that they could deflect one.
Look like Swiss cheese after
Honestly one of the biggest issues the modern army would face, would be corpse accumulation, but so would the attackers.
19:17 RIP RIP POTATO CHIP is my new favorite saying.
Also, are there any modern melee units that could be used to counter the melee ability of both ancient and zombie units?
Iirc, there's cyborg samurai
Realistic version of this video:
1 ICBM gets fired and victory.
Or literally the bullets just shred the Roman’s armor and victory within 10 minutes and probably 0 casualties on the US side.
30 seconds tops
One of the best uebs channel out there.
"This will be a deadly battle, millions would die... if you guys enjoyed this video please like and subscribe"😂😂
CWIS stands for Close-In Weapon System. Sort of like a last defense weapon that can be set for ground targets with a 3,000 round per minute fire rate, or it can be set for air targets with a 4,500 rounds per minute fire rate.
This map is cool, but the Romans are losing 4k a second before the Americans even start firing! I love playing this game but I wish they could fix the 'poor bastard's who drown before the battle even starts' glitch!
Excellent vids btw 👍
How can a Romans destroy a tank with just swords?
Magical sword
Next battle simulation? A squadron of B-52's against 20,000 Spartans. Will the spears prove to be effective as an anti-aircraft weapon? Will the Spartan's shields be able to provide protection against the Stratofortresses payload? . . .Stay tuned . . .
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@@fearthemonkey-72 Thank you
It is a c-ram for ground and c-was for the water
an idea, try graphing the kills on both sides over the course of the battle and showing us it at the end.
Should have put all the feds out front as fodder
The realism here is pretty low..
Those shields wouldn't stop the m4's let alone a 50 cal sniper rifle or anti material rifle.
Bro! Dude!!!
I just had an amazing idea
...you should do a war with 'Nagging Wives' versus Men Who Fight Women or Husbands Who Had Enough and Fight Back!
Last time I was this early, dirt was newly discovered on earth. I had watched a similar video with zombies vs CW1 guns which were lined up on the bluffs. Think the gun team won but there wasn’t the kill/death count as you have on your videos.
Where's the artillery and mortar rounds & Bradley's????
And those roman could do nothing to those tank, unless they got inside them 😂
Just found your channel and I love it, plus you sound like operator drewski 😂👌😂
Certainly, even in a beach defense, the defense would show some strategic flexibility. Allowing the Abrams to be surrounded, doubt it. And the attackers seem to be showing no struggle of advancing through their dead which would most likely be hills of screaming flesh.
I honestly think the Roman army mobility would be much less after mountains of dead, the advance would be much harder at some point because the piles of dead they would be forced to flank the side of the piles simply because it be hard to advance and climb the bodies, they dead would be good shields, but it will play in favor of us. Army
Men in ghillie suits standing in formation. Yeah, that makes sense.
As a non military numpty I can be put straight on this....I watched a clip were a bloke fired an M16 continuously, and it burst into flames after about the 5th mag.
That was after thousands of rounds but an AR with an aluminum handrail and external piston will not catch on fire.
Retired paratrooper here. May I switch sides, I minoredinRomanhistory? Wait...nukes? Disregard.
In all reality it would take 1 M1A1 Abrams to kill all 7 million... as long as it didnt run out of fuel 😅
I have to agree with other commenters - the Roman shields are not going to totally deflact bullets. And the mountain of dead roman bodies that the live roman soldiers have to climb is going to put them at a further disadvantage.
"Abrams getting damaged to arrow fire" 😂😂😂😂
Ah yes. The greatest generation can’t hold up against Roman’s but the modern army can. Roman’s would cry against 30-06, 30 cal lmgs and 50 cal plus Sherman’s and air raids.
Wouldn't they considered attack helos, planes and tactical nukes? As well as machine gun nests, rocket barrages.
The anime Gate shows the great disparity between a modern army and an ancient one.
The thought of such a battle ever occurring would compel me to send a message to my Roman counterparts to surrender
At he height of the Roman Empire it barely had more than a few hundrand thousand troops. In its entire history it never topped 2 million. Where are you getting the 7 million from?
The US Army has nuclear ATACMS, but no Apache Attack Helicopters? lol 😆
The Abrams are being underused. Not only can it fire effectively on the move with main gun, the .50 cal would just mow more down. Plus, no Roman is stopping an Abrams and it should just drive around and mow dudes down. Put a grizzly mine sweeper on that and even better.
B.S on the shields stopping any modern firearms....ridiculous
Another awesome video fantastic stuff as always.
The computer graphics forgot that you wouldn't even be able to run anymore with dead bodies to having to walk on. They couldn't even walk well.
the auto cannons are called Phalanx gatling chain guns
Imagine how much blood there is on that battlefield?
In a defensive action, troops with machine guns would protect the tanks. Also, add in a few apache helicopters, warhogs, and other fighter bombers. If the flanks were attacked, or hit with enfilading fire, they would turn and run. They weren't stupid.
The troops would be in fortified bunkers, fighting positions the tanks would be behind them acting as artillery. Also for every squad there are two SAWS and for ever platoon are two 240gs. Squad leader would have 203s etc. Romans would have not chance in the open field
Your forgot all of us hillbilly’s, rednecks and midwesterners with a larger arsenal than every army in the world
Number 1, Roman field commander would have stopped immediately because of bullets, cannon fire that would decimate the Roman Army. The battle would have stopped immediately. Numbers like 7 million is meaningless in face of superior firepower of the American army. This battle does not make sense, period. The Roman soldiers act like zombies charging hopelessly into the barrage of bullets and cannon fire.
how can yur computer handle that many entities
It’s cracked
@@DaleyTactics thx for replying can u pls give my comment a heart pls i wont ask again just this once it would be so amazing
Wow,unlimited ammo rifles!
A single modern tank with unlimited ammo and fuel could take out the entire roman force.
All they have to do is drive the tanks over them. That is if they don't get sent to Davie Jones locker first.
13:03 A skadooosh
I love this, but bone arrows are not going to be going through soldiers bulletproof vest. And the Roman soldiers would’ve known by now to stand down.
FBI Agents?!? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Might as well call in the EPA 😂
Where’s the Bradley’s? Where’s humvees with mounted mk19s and 50 cal, where’s fighter jets, Apache? Missing a lot of huge assets the military actually has
So none of the infantry knew how to throw a javelin? Where are the Roman artillery units? What about their cavalry? But yet there's a million generals? That's one general for every 6 soldiers.
Daley the nukes do not work if they do not have direct line of sight
They never seem to work when I watch Daley's vids. I was wondering if in this one they were too far back from the ledge, and if LOS is needed, then they certainly were. Maybe overall they're glitchy anyway?
Factoring in the unlimited amount of ammo for the tanks and soldiers, and the effective range of tank gun HEAP rounds and mounted machine guns, no Roman would ever had lived to get into range for arrows.
interesting. but bear in mind the romans never charged at will (willy nilly) they were very systematic and tactical in their battle formations and strategies
Daley you could simulate a ww1 trench Russian charge (like 40.000 soldiers) against entrenched German ww2 soldiers (3000 soldiers)
I've seen another video which has just phalynxs and it makes mince meat of the enemy millions. They don't stop shooting.
Should have put more defenses in the left flank.