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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2018
- I have been riding bikes since 1976, my first bike was a Triumph Tiger Cub, after that it was a Yamaha AS1 125 Twin, and then many many more to follow, in my spare time I restore old classics and repair and service bikes for other bikers. I have four bikes at present, a Triumph T140E, Two XS650's One chop and one standard and a XJ750. I will be riding these bikes in my videos.
This upload I will be reviewing converting the T140 six plate clutch to a seven plate and what differences I found after the ride out.
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hello if you cut the clutch push rod in half and round and temper the ends, and put a ball baring between the two halfs , and shorten one end the same amount as ball, this will make a light clutch the triumph race guys used to do that, and i have done it on mine, lee
My T140V had the same bear trap pull to it so I added a hydraulic system to it and now it's as light as a 250cc machine.
That was a very enjoyable video of your very clean Triumph Bonneville. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you for the ride and the advice. My '77 T140V project is in the garage.
Very useful info for my 1974 T140 'Spares or repair' US import resto-rebuild. Thanks.
About twenty years ago, I was inside the clutch of my older Harley, I converted it over to hydraulic, and found the clutch was entirely different, much better, than I'd ever had on it before. I'm riding a 78 Bonnie, these last few months, new to me, and I'm thinking about converting it to hydraulic as well. I used parts from a Honda shadow, for the Harley, slave cylinder, I watched this because the seven plate clutch is something new to me, haven't worked on a Triumph since the seventies, I think it would be a good job, a good fit. Thanks for your review.
I used T120 clutch springs in my setup, the 120 springs are not as stiff as the 140's which makes the clutch a lot lighter, keep us posted on the clutch if you manage to do the conversion, be interested in seeing that, nice one
good to see you back . I can't get over how quiet your silencers are compared to the XS .
I rode into Town this morning and I was very conscious of how loud my exhaust is. Getting frustrated at how long I had to wait to feed into the high street traffic I forced my way out in front of a white BMW causing it to pull up abruptly . Too late I realised it was an unmarked Police car ! doh .....
Superb video quality as usual. I'll have to order a Tube as my existing Mobius cam is rubbish.
ps I think your XS needs a run .....wink ...
Hi John, yeah I miss the sound of the peashooter but wont miss having to change plugs every 300 miles lol, I have my eyes on some early Triumph T120 shape silencers, they are like £180+, so a little saving needs to be done for them. This is what they look like www.classicbikeshop.co.uk/triumph-tr6-t120-unit-silencers.html
good on ya chap bike sounds good mechanically quiet
Lovely Trumpy. It looks better than new. I particularly like the riser handlebars on it. Many happy miles of riding on it mate 👍
Thanks matey, I'm in the process of respraying the tank at the moment so will be out on it as soon as thats done!
howdo chap just fitted a hydraulic clutch to my t140d from john the greek(triples unlimited) lovely piece off kit cost 500 euros but worth it,lovely feel to it with a 7 plus one clutch is awesome.
Dont you find pulling away now a joy? ;)
@@OldBiker yea clutch lever can b a one finger job,,
Hi Cliff, Yea my Clutch on my T140e feels heavy , Brian tried pulling in and pointed it out how strong you needed to be, I tried his one on his bike and it was really light. I had my clutch apart and the basket had grooves worn into the basket which i filed out. its better but still a bit heavy , I think I need to try and reroot the cable too.
Hey Keith I will do a quick video tomorrow of the clutch cable routing I use now, It's kinda floating and not fixed tight with cable ties, so when you pull the clutch in, the cable wants to get into its own position. What year is your T140?
Year of the triumph 1979 it has the black switches on the handlebars. The clutch on my Norton was heavy too, I rerooted the cable so it wasnt trapped under the petrol tank , its feels much better now.
When we all meet up next we'll have to do a video of all the bikes on a run, then send each other the files so we can each create the videos. My Triumph was built in 78 and registered in 79, I think we have about three years left before they become Tax Exempt
if your around your garage today i could pop round at some point on the T140E just need to drag it out of workshop and stick some petrol in it.
The Gov legislation documents on Historic Vehicle Tax and MOT exemption arn't particularly clear are they !.. They do not appear to have updated their website info because it isn't mentioned that both Tax and MOT exemption are on a rolling program starting on April 1st every year .yeah April Fools day . doh...
So if your bike was manufactured before January 1st 1978 it will be eligible for both Tax and MOT exemption on 1st April 2019 (Why they don't just say manufactured in 1977 is beyond me ...it would certainly be clearer)
So it looks like you and i will need to wait until April 1st 2020 to apply for our 1978 manufactured bikes....another 2x years dammit
I've just bought same bike for the big 60th next year and this has been a big help. One question, why two key ignition points ???
Cheers
Kev
One for each cylinder, you need to get rid of those and fit a electronic ignition, Boyer mk4 or the like
You may have low mileage but the early or oil frames would clog up the sludge trapping less than 10000 miles my 1965 TR6 with a half a million miles and 40 + years when we tore down the engine to replace the camshaft which war out to flush trap was almost but not quite full
did u ever get rid off the stumbles?mine still has a tiny glitch cant find it,improved slightly when i put the needles on the weakest setting (2c3 needles) like a thorn in my brain lol.
Hi Gareth, the other day I converted my carbs back to stock, stainless 2c3 needle and .105 stainless needle jet, needle position in the middle, 200 main jet, 25 pilot jet and 50 cold start jet with the air jets installed, the only change I made on that setup to stop the stumble completely was change the throttle slide to a No2, now I've done all that I'm going to put the peashooters back on and start all over again from the current setup so that I can get this bike running loud and perfect as possible lol we never learn to leave things alone!
@@OldBiker a no2 is ritcher ?maybe i could try changing slides but i thought my stumbles were ritchness so i use a no3 now not sure which way to go, on my needles the top knotch (leanest) the clip is a crap fit in the groove not impressed.i must have had the carbs off a dozen times trying to cure it ,inless its in the ignition somewhere just changed leads and plugs with 5ohm resister caps cos off boyer hasnt cured the stumble.grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Hi Gareth, are you sure its stumbling due to richness, the 2c3 needle setup is what they used in the States for the emissions and that carb setup made those machines run lean. A rich stumble would sound like a deep growling hollow kind of sound but wouldn't cut out at all, a lean stumble would be like the engine cutting out a split second while riding or even all together when you blip the throttle stationary.
No3 slides are what the original basic T140E setup started off with, also with your needle clip position at the top and using a No3 slide sounds like it would be pretty lean running to me, on another note, make sure the mixture screws are set at two turns out if you use a 25 pilot jet.
@@OldBiker right cheers,on the middle clip plugs looked a tad ritch so i raised a knotch plugs look cleaner,but thats all,i use a 35 cold start jet 50 was way too ritch on mine used to bellow out black shit on 50"s with full choke,now starts first kick with no throttle hot or cold (stone cold with choke) its the teeniest off glitches but i want perfection lol,could try a 2 slide but could b money wasted,test riding my 45t rear sprocket tommorrow weather permitting,43 was a bit less peppy lower down 47 too revvy at cruising speed,have a very loud reverse cone mega tried a pattern bonnie special silencer glitch still there.grr.improves when warmed up properly is that a clue ??
so i tried a 43 rear tooth on my t140d lovely cruising but lost a bit off its peppiness.was on a 47 t so gonna try a 45t and compromise front is 20t on the 43 4000rpm was 70 mph so i rekon a 45 might b arround 4250 at 70 mph and still lively lower down.my 7 plate is still heavy cas i had to tighten it down to stop it slipping.shame really.
I think mine has a 45t next time out if I remember I'll see what the rpm is at 70
Hi mate I’ve got a 68 500 Daytona, and some times when I gun it the 6 plate clutch will slip slightly, would a 7 plate fix that. Cheers Martin ⚙️🔩🔧👍
Hi Martin, a slippy clutch has lots of reasons, It may be weak or incorrectly adjusted springs (a light clutch operation) , a tight cable which prevents the clutch from engaging properly (that would cause a heavy clutch operation), a sticky or worn clutch lifting worm or just worn plates, oh and also the spring cups could be sticking and also the clutch basket may have grooves worn into it by the plates which would also make the clutch heavy and gear changing harder. Only way to find out and to check most of that is to strip it down, a winter job.
Cheers, Cliff
@@OldBiker Cheers Cliff, that’s give me some food for thought, the bike had a new clutch basket by Previous owner in 2019, has only done 1000 miles to Date, so will double check adjustment first and check the cable route, I’m running with ATF oil in primary chain as recommended by previous owner, the clutch operation is not heavy, so if all Else fails it’s a Strip down, it might be weak springs or they need adjustment then . Cheers Martin ⚙️🔩🔧👍