Waldner baiting Ma Lin into these long forehand rallys. Ma Lin’s signature diagonal forehand became his own worse enemy with impatience. Walder was truly a genius of table tennis.
If waldner played this good here, just think of how good he played when he was in his prime. There is no one, back then or even now who could play like waldner! Therefore he simply is THE greatest player of all time.
He had an unbelievable, incredible and unique playstyle! I hope some player in the world now or in the future can play like this and sort of maintain this talent and skill, but i dont think so. No swedish player anyway. Maybe, lets hope so. I am from sweden and play tanke tennis myself, so it feelt really good to say this, at last. Therefore i am proud of being swedish. Thanks for reading😁
@@yeagerist977 Ma Long is not even the best of his generation let alone the best of all time.He was watching Zhang Jike swiping slam after slam and couldn't do shit about it.
Jan Ove Waldner of Sweden, the maestro, master, tactician! Waldner played one of his best matches to overcome the great Ma Lin of China. What a great match from both of these two brilliant players.
@SwedenArise Also, at the end the commentators said that Ma Lin's performance was not bad, but Waldner won with his experience. In particular, he completely shut down Ma Lin's diagonal forehand loops.
He didn't win with experience.Penholders don't have strong defense.If you have strong attack and can keep up with their short game(short forehand-long backhand footwork) you can beat them.Samsonov had plenty of experience but couldn't beat Ma in God knows how many attempts.
In this game, many of Waldner's rallies were to create strong side-spinning loops at the drop point, forcing Marin to constantly adjust her pace. Marin had difficulty adapting throughout the game.
Waldner was a penhold killer and probably one of the reasons why the Chinese gave up on penhold play and switched to the European penhold style which made them dominant again.
@pingpong9005 Waldner was in bad shape in the early 00's and still had some close encounters against him so beating him wasn't that much of a surprise. A guy like Samsonov was a more difficult opponent for Waldner.
@@dickn.ormous1064 waldner himself said that malin was most difficult opponent for him once in an interview...even samsonov has a bad record against malin...
Challanging a Penholder forehand to forehand was a brilliant strategy. Something the Chinese Coaches probably didn't anticipate very well. Although, Ma has and obvious advantage in speed, youth and footwork; its a reminder that strategy and psychology are a huge part of the game. The pressure of facing a 38 year old Waldner in the Olympics must have been intense for Ma who at this point always came close but never won any major title. Waldner already had Olympic gold and silver at this point.
@olaniyi570 Actually, Ma Lin was already two times World Cup winner when he came to Athens. That's generally regarded as the third (the least) most prestigious title in Singles (after Olympic Gold and World Champion) of the three major titles, but still.
Don't know why people claim the World Cup is a slam.The Chinese never cared about the tournament unless it was hosted in China. Ma Lin's merits at the time were beating Kim Taek Soo,Waldner and Samsonov at the 1999WTTC and his performance at the 2001 WTTC team event against Korea and Belgium.
@@dickn.ormous1064 That doesn't make any sense. That is the second most prestigious yearly tournament. The Chinese players obviously don't want to win only 1 tournament every year, that's just not how professional sports work. They care about it less than they care about the Championship, but they of course still want to win it. That would be like saying the best tennis players don't care about ATP finals. It's a less important tournament than the Grand Slams but they are still there to try to win it.
@@feri7mble Exactly,the tennis equivalent would be the ATP finals.It's not a major.For the Chinese in terms of significance it goes like this Olympics>WTTC>Αsian Games>World Cup.The 2000 World Cup that Ma Lin won was held 20 days after the Sydney Olympics.Shows how lousy the schedule was.
@SwedenArise Sure. So mainly the commentators were surprised by how Waldner was shutting down all of Ma Lin's usual attacking lines. Like for example, on those forehand to forehands, Waldner usually came out ahead by being there first with great anticipation and counter attacking back while Ma Lin's momentum was carrying him in the other direction. Waldner must have studied Ma Lin's tendencies a ton and came up with a game plan just to beat him. Timo Boll could learn from Waldner
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39 year old and still beat the top players of china at that time
Waldner baiting Ma Lin into these long forehand rallys. Ma Lin’s signature diagonal forehand became his own worse enemy with impatience.
Walder was truly a genius of table tennis.
I was lucky enough to be in Gatasti Stadium for this match and the energy that day was beyond belief.When waldi won the crowd went crazy.
it is said you could hear the crowd from the parking area when he won
The way he looks after winning: I did it again.
I love his way of playing, and I never hear him saying CHO
How can you be as good as Jan Ove Waldner? Legend.
waldner is the federer of table tennis…insane sport IQ.
If waldner played this good here, just think of how good he played when he was in his prime. There is no one, back then or even now who could play like waldner! Therefore he simply is THE greatest player of all time.
He had an unbelievable, incredible and unique playstyle! I hope some player in the world now or in the future can play like this and sort of maintain this talent and skill, but i dont think so. No swedish player anyway. Maybe, lets hope so. I am from sweden and play tanke tennis myself, so it feelt really good to say this, at last. Therefore i am proud of being swedish. Thanks for reading😁
Not even close to being the greatest of all time
He was just the best of his time
GOAT is easily ma long
@@yeagerist977 Ma Long is not even the best of his generation let alone the best of all time.He was watching Zhang Jike swiping slam after slam and couldn't do shit about it.
@@dickn.ormous1064 I think that debate is settled now.
@@sackwhacker Best of the plastic ball era,he had some very weak draws.
Jan Ove Waldner of Sweden, the maestro, master, tactician! Waldner played one of his best matches to overcome the great Ma Lin of China. What a great match from both of these two brilliant players.
I AM FROM DENMARK - I HAVE FOLLOW THE SWEDISH TEAMS SINCE THE 70 🥰 SO GREAT!
@SwedenArise Also, at the end the commentators said that Ma Lin's performance was not bad, but Waldner won with his experience. In particular, he completely shut down Ma Lin's diagonal forehand loops.
he keep ma lin guessing all the match were is he gonna place the ball and that took away ma lin iniciative to play his dangerous forenhand loops
He didn't win with experience.Penholders don't have strong defense.If you have strong attack and can keep up with their short game(short forehand-long backhand footwork) you can beat them.Samsonov had plenty of experience but couldn't beat Ma in God knows how many attempts.
The most élégant player of all times
i watched that video ca. 200 times.
jan ove best player ever
In this game, many of Waldner's rallies were to create strong side-spinning loops at the drop point, forcing Marin to constantly adjust her pace. Marin had difficulty adapting throughout the game.
I watched this video everyday and everynight
it appears that waldner has studied ma lins style very carefully...
The best player in the world at that time played against an old man, but not any ordinary man
Waldner was a penhold killer and probably one of the reasons why the Chinese gave up on penhold play and switched to the European penhold style which made them dominant again.
Except against j pen players
@@cooperhawk988He owned both Kim Taek Soo and Yoo Nam Kyu.
Before this ...he had lost almost all encounters against ma lin..even some were very close, but there head to head record is dominated by malin.
@pingpong9005 Waldner was in bad shape in the early 00's and still had some close encounters against him so beating him wasn't that much of a surprise.
A guy like Samsonov was a more difficult opponent for Waldner.
@@dickn.ormous1064 waldner himself said that malin was most difficult opponent for him once in an interview...even samsonov has a bad record against malin...
great angle! great match!
Otroligt bra spelat.
Challanging a Penholder forehand to forehand was a brilliant strategy. Something the Chinese Coaches probably didn't anticipate very well. Although, Ma has and obvious advantage in speed, youth and footwork; its a reminder that strategy and psychology are a huge part of the game. The pressure of facing a 38 year old Waldner in the Olympics must have been intense for Ma who at this point always came close but never won any major title. Waldner already had
Olympic gold and silver at this point.
Melhor de todos Waldner
Proud to be Swedish
Jomen absolut! Man blir ju fan stolt, älskar Jo Waldner alltså haha.. spelar pingis själv👍
Waldner...you rule
I could not agree more!
@olaniyi570 Actually, Ma Lin was already two times World Cup winner when he came to Athens. That's generally regarded as the third (the least) most prestigious title in Singles (after Olympic Gold and World Champion) of the three major titles, but still.
Don't know why people claim the World Cup is a slam.The Chinese never cared about the tournament unless it was hosted in China.
Ma Lin's merits at the time were beating Kim Taek Soo,Waldner and Samsonov at the 1999WTTC and his performance at the 2001 WTTC team event against Korea and Belgium.
@@dickn.ormous1064 That doesn't make any sense. That is the second most prestigious yearly tournament. The Chinese players obviously don't want to win only 1 tournament every year, that's just not how professional sports work. They care about it less than they care about the Championship, but they of course still want to win it. That would be like saying the best tennis players don't care about ATP finals. It's a less important tournament than the Grand Slams but they are still there to try to win it.
@@feri7mble Exactly,the tennis equivalent would be the ATP finals.It's not a major.For the Chinese in terms of significance it goes like this Olympics>WTTC>Αsian Games>World Cup.The 2000 World Cup that Ma Lin won was held 20 days after the Sydney Olympics.Shows how lousy the schedule was.
That coach looked so young and a little comical.
Wow 0:30!
2:23
jajaja simply amazing!
Jomen absolut😁
btw whos da blond dude at 2:40 and 6:15? he was there cheering waldi in timos match as well.
It's the coach
It's a shame with such poor video quality. Anyone knows where to find better video?
th-cam.com/video/E3D1o7bHa_4/w-d-xo.html
whats here HD
A geração do Ma Lin e do Liu Guoliang não tiveram sorte com o Waldner como FZD está tendo com Trulls Moregard.
@SwedenArise Sure. So mainly the commentators were surprised by how Waldner was shutting down all of Ma Lin's usual attacking lines. Like for example, on those forehand to forehands, Waldner usually came out ahead by being there first with great anticipation and counter attacking back while Ma Lin's momentum was carrying him in the other direction. Waldner must have studied Ma Lin's tendencies a ton and came up with a game plan just to beat him. Timo Boll could learn from Waldner
In China this is video is censored for sure :D
A long with the man who stood in front the tanks after shooping jajaja
The Chinese love Waldner.