It is against flesh and blood. The figure of speech used is called an ellipsis. Many misunderstand writings in general if you ignore the usage of figures of speech. We rather obviously wrestle against flesh and blood. But the emphasis here is on the latter and not the former.
@brien5 Except that the "Not against flesh and blood" is, in context, saying that the enemy in that case is "principalities and powers", which is why it juxtaposes them. That is, it's not about human rulers. You're ignoring the context to argue about something unrelated.
i mean if she believes the rulers or the world are literally not physical beings it all checks out. pretty sure it's not the case for politicians she likes bC hE's DiFfErEnT but whatever
This 100%. Sometimes my own worldview and upbringing make Dan's material hard to watch. This was the first video I've seen where I actually wanted Dan to demolish what she was saying. The smug attitude grated in a way I rarely get watching TH-cam these days.
I feel the same way. In the face of that gleeful, smug sanctimony it is just so hard to be gracious. So many apologists TH-camrs have this awful mannerism. It’s really nauseating! I guess the way to be less offended is to just know your stuff.
@GoodieWhiteHat I think it's even more significant to show humility. I grew up a 6-day creationist until I neared by mid-20s and opposed to marriage equality until my mid-30s. Nowadays I consider both incompatible with my faith and/or the evidence provided in the Bible and the world around me. I've been wrong frequently and passionately enough that I am immediately suspicious of people who talk with a sense of superiority.
I'm eternally grateful that at the same time i began to attend church, i also took Bible as lit courses in high school, which kept me from ever seeing the Bible as univocal, literal or infallible. Best thing i ever could have done for myself.
Caution is needed here. A bible TRANSLATION, and the actual word of GOD, are not always in agreement. What GOD intended to be written is infallible,.....The translations, on the other hand, can stray from what was intended. 1 John 5:19 appears to support the fact that human governments, as well as other entities, are controlled by something other than their own endeavors. The words of Jesus back this up at John 14:30. Revelation 12:9 identifies exactly who that ruler is.
"but against rule, against power" at the beginning seems to be consistent in earlier translations. That's all I really need to know. What he is arguing is just on the examples that come after the main part. Rule and power is simple and easy to understand for me anyway. Any entity, human or other, seen or unseen, that tries to exert rule or power over us we should be against.
I appreciate you going through the older texts and pointing out the specific differences in translations and texts. It's really helpful to be able to see them yourself as opposed to just being told the translation is wrong or it was added to the manuscripts 👍
Tik Tok and TH-cam have brought us the true proof of Dunning-Kruger. The 1599 edition of the Geneva Bible enhances the notes in Revelation, but the New Testament was revised in 1576 by Laurence Tomson.
Also, as soon as I saw who the creator was.. I just stopped watching. I'm not commenting on her appearance here, she just... Her lack of education and curiosity and just taking things at face value is actually triggering for me lol.
The Geneva bible is great, really a treasure of English literature, and a wonderful Bible translation. You should definitely read it if you have the chance.
God used three languages to his preserve his word. Latin is not one of them which corrupt texts came out of. There are other corrupt texts as well coming out of Alexandria and Rome. The Holy Scriptures has specific manuscripts as a textual basis. All others are forgeries and one can tell where the devil attacks specific doctrines including the deity of Christ.
What would truly surprise me would be if this woman FINALLY said something true and rational. I wonder if this woman knows that the Scriptures weren't originally written in English if she thinks this Geneva Bible is the original. I would like to think that she gets that but I honestly can't make that assumption given the bat shit crazy things she says and believes.
Wouldn't it be great to see a few of these foolish people create videos to withdraw their previous nonsense and to thank Dan, and others, for correcting them using data? I would pay to see that.
Lack of communications messes up everything there is a time and place for everything though 🤔🤨 man and woman should get in touch with each other more they should ask each other even about the things they know how do you feel about this do you like when I do this and then when you build up that relationship you start asking things that are a little more pertinent so on and so on that's how I have a good business works not that that's a business you have to use your imagination though 🤔🤨😎
It's funny because this creator wouldn't dare reference what Romans 13:1-2 has to say. It's also kind of funny that she doesn't talk about "forces of evil in the heavenly realm" to mean that there's evil in heaven in the same way she thinks the princes of darkness refers to worldly/world humans.
i always thought that the evil in heaven is the fact that the fallen one still has access to heaven. It's not till Revelations that the fallen one would be banned?
"Against the worldly governors" hasn't been omitted. In my NKJV, it reads "Against the rulers of the darkness of this world", which is a paraphrased meaning, but means the same.
Regardless which verse of the Bible you prefer…. God just wants us to live a righteous life , love everyone as he loves us, and to believe in our Lord and savior Jesus who is the son of man and who sacrificed his life for us!
And even in English "worldly governors" is a phrase that could easily be understood as cosmic forces if preachers would teach it that way, just as the Bible sometimes describes angels as "princes" and most preachers I know do not try teach those verses as literal human royalty
@@davidjanbaz7728 Angels can do other things besides being a messenger. In Revelation, one angel was given power over the Sun to scorch people with heat. In Daniel, it required 2 angels to deal with the prince of Persia because he was delaying one of them. Pretty sure they weren't talking about a heated debate. Then you have: -the angel that was gonna kill Balaam -the angel who killed a whole army in one night -the angel YHWH sent to cause pestilence on Jerusalem There's no reason to believe angels can't be royalty. In fact, some scholars believe that the passage in Daniel implies the prince of Persia was an angel himself!
I will never understand people who want to pretend the bible is the literal word of god that must be followed to the letter... yet are utterly unwilling to learn greek to actually read the original words.
One of my profs used to joke that it stood for the New Inaccurate Version because it’s one of the greater offenders of adding words or translating in a way that points people towards certain theological stances. LOL. 😅
It doesn't matter if it is spiritual powers or earthly powers. Because earthly powers that reject Jesus Christ's salvation and try and set themselves up as replacements for Jesus Christ's salvation, Become possessed by evil spirits. As soon as they reject Jesus Christ, they become anti-Christ. The enemies of God.
As a woman- this is why women should NOT try to decipher, explain, assume, or interpret from “their point of view”. We women are highly emotional creatures who get our emotional thinking ahead of our logical thinking. This is why Eve was targeted by the serpent. Eve got her assumptions and feelings ahead of the logical commands from God who gave it to Adam who gave it to Eve. We cannot be deceived by believing the “they said” from internet people. Jesus said to “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming “I am the Messiah”, and will deceive many.” Matthew 24:4. This also means to watch out for false “Gods word”. Not all “bibles” are Gods word. History is so incredibly important to carefully study. Deep dive into the important facts is essential! And have a Godly man who has wisdom and understanding to be there to lead.
1:04-1:08 No it’s not. “Ephesians” (Laodiceans) was definitely talking about the archons in outer space (it’s like that cult lady in Assassin’s Creed Valhalla).
Hey Dan, unrelated question for you. What's going on with Ruth uncovering Boaz's feet while he sleeps? I've heard different takes on whether that's a euphemism or should be understood literally and am wondering if you could clarify.
Thank you for your great work Dan. I know you recommend the NRSV Study Bible, but what do you think of the NASB (New American Standard Bible )? It's supposed To be one of the most accurate English translations?
❤ the NRSV. NASB is translated into English directly from the original languages. It’s a bit clunkier to read flow-wise. But is a pretty decent study Bible.
Great break down I still find it suspicious that King James had it removed , and his motivation is totally understandable he was rebeling against the Catholic Church at this time
This dude sound brilliant with is spawn s-shirt on. Guys do you remember who spawn is? Jesus said know them by their fruits. Its Clear that this youtuber left out on purpose the wycliffe Bible translation dated 1382 that also supports what is written in the Geneva Bible written in the early 1500s concerning Ephesians 6:12 . Now before you read it remember it was translated into old English. This is what the Wycliffe Bible says in its translations of Ephesians 6:12"For whi stryuyng is not to vs ayens fleisch and blood, but ayens princis and potestatis, ayens gouernours of the world of these derknessis, ayens spiritual thingis of wickidnesse, in heuenli thingis." Now I know the youtuber mentioned words inserted and cosmic world ya ya ya. But you must remember demons are evil spirits the same spirits that possessed and manipulated the Pharisees , the people in the times of Jesus and the governments governors to kill him. Again It was finally though the governments was Jesus death accomplished by Satan by use of a governor named Pilot. If this happened to Jesus and all of his disciples people do you think we are exempt especially when the book of revelation reveals its the rise Government that would eventually rule many to death. Therefore are we fighting normal men and women? the answer is No. On the surface if appears that way. This is what we know a natural man cannot kill it take a demonic spirit to influence and possess to kill and this task becomes especially easier when a government or governors in the government is involved.
The foundational truth of the matter is, if you want actual discernment to know what is true, you have to take it to our Father In Heaven personally and ask him humbly and sincerely for discernment..you don’t listen to someone wearing a Spawn T-shirt that glorifies the powers of hell
Let's go all the way back to the council of Nicia. The Roman Catholic Pope and the state took control of the scriptures, abused the writings, rewrote/mistranslated the scriptures to suite their needs, added peganism practices then distributed it to the people as a means to control them. And dont forget, scripture was stolen text, written by and for Hebrews and the liniage of Abraham. The middle east is a created land on the continent of Africa, Alkebulon. The recent translations of the scriptures currently called the bible is still used to control people. Read the Torah writings and discover who the true Israelites, still living today hidden in every country by way of slavery,, really are. I know that this Truth is coming out and is all over the internet. I am a descendent of slaves, from the Tribe of Yahudah. We are waking up to the truth as described in the story of the waking up of the dry bones. Most High be praised forever.
0:26-0:31 It was probably Marcion’s epistle to the laodiceans that he wrote in the mid-second century CE that was referred to in the muratorian canon. Like “Luke,” the epistle was likely doctored by orthodox scribes to sound more orthodox (basically whatever tertullian said, but the exact opposite).
I went down such deep rabbit holes thinking id be able to find the perfect version but it didnt exist. God's Word of course is perfect but these translations are just that, translations and they will never be perfect. At the end of the day i just pray no version ever goes extinct because as long as nothing is hidden from me im confident ill always be able to eventually find the truth... My faith will not allow anything less...
5:33 "...we have the appositional sense of the final clause ..." and the YT transcriber displaying it as " ... oppositional sense ..." There is no hope!
Well it appears there are those who want to believe one thing and another that wants to disbelieve and they all put together their vague understandings and misunderstandings dancing all over the Bibles shaped text. I guess it will be never ending because the weight that these writings have had on society. I would think that if this book wasn't given such credence , then all this erratic understandings would just be , like basic literature, delving into its meanings to you and NOT trying to prove it's an infallible document.
This is the original scripture from... something other than the original scripture. The alleged change doesn't even make sense, because the Bible is already full of anti-government messages. Why would you change that verse?
Look at an annotated version of Shakespeare's plays - better yet, try reading a couple without footnotes. It's very rough going, since not only has the language changed *a lot,* but the cultural context is very different and many of the allusions or jokes - which come thick & fast - are completely lost on us now. Now go back another 1400+ years for the earliest New Testament books, written for a minority sect of Judaism initially struggling for acceptance in that culture, later moving around the Mediterranean and changing its audience and goals... I find it very hard to imagine how a single translation could cover all that territory well, without having 10× more footnotes than text, and without enraging people who believe their current Bible is the One True Bible, written in English as God intended. And then there's the Old Testament...
The Holy Spirit (ruach) comes to guide our spirit into truth and discern error.. knowing this, flesh and blood is referring to an individual person, rulers of darkness is the system that's guided by them.
He's wrong! Be careful of the arrogant! The geneva bible yes was after the previous mentioned translations, BUT the difference is that this bible is translated VERY carefully DIRECTLY from the Hebrew texts and the greek and Roman texts. EVERYONE WHO WANT THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD NEEDS TO GO BACK. DONT BELEIVE THE LIES, THE KINDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!!!
If she would just read the Preface to some of the modern English translations, she'd learn a ton about the source texts. Too many people don't read the Preface.
The Apostle Paul - Mentions the Way of Salvation Paul did not detest the Law of Moses. Paul actually believed in The Law, but did not understand that God was going to bring in the grace. It had to first be a sacrifice - and that sacrifice was Jesus Christ. Paul did not detest The Law but quoted from Moses and explained what Moses could not explain back then, because it wasn't time yet. Moses means "drawn out" - and God used Moses to 'draw out' Israel from Egypt. The Hebrews spent scores of years in Egypt, and it was time to move on. The word 'Church' means "Called Out" - by Christ, the Church was called out of the world to make a people for God. In the epistles written by Paul, especially Romans and Galatians he explained the purpose of the church. In The Law in Deuteronomy 32 - God had Moses teach Joshua and the Children of Israel a song. This song was going to attest what the Children of Israel was going to do, including turning their back on God. But... in the end, God would bring Israel back. In that chapter, the Church was foretold due to Israel's idolatry which caused jealousy from God. For that reason God used a people that were not a people to cause Israel to jealousy. The Apostle Paul explains this in Romans 9, 10, and 11. Acts 13:38,39 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
See Matthew 23 where Jesus completely wrecks the scribes and pharisees, the rulers of his area. Also, all the prophets of the old testament prophesied against the rulers of their day. John the Baptist was beheaded because he told King Herod that it wasn't lawful for him to have his brother's wife.
but tyndale and coverdale didn't translate into greek. they translated into latin and english. so worldly would have those definitions. and since no one is allowed to read the original greek and hebrew (and some aramaic) including YOU... we cannot verify that the greek word kosmokratoras was the correct word used. Eramus' translation is still a translation, it is not the original text.. The original source would be needed to verify accurately. BUT we do know that "principalities, against powers would establish a spiritual warfare, so... there's no sense repeating that with the word "cosmic" in the same verse since it has already been established. therefore "worldly governors" means exactly what it says as it was translated into latin and english. nice try though. As far as "we wrestle not against flesh and blood" you would be wrestling against the power given to the worldly governors so that is accurate. so it is not in contradiction with the scripture. The problem we run into with translations is they can be as seriously flawed as the king james because humans are translating them. erasmus could have also thrown in cosmic because like the pope he wanted to change it, the reader has no way of knowing. The catholic church removed 14 books of the bible and changed or left out scriptures to suit the catholic ideology. which in its self is a grossly flawed teaching which directly contradicts Gods' word. and it's no wonder why they deleted "worldly governors" as the pope wanted the scripture to say the pope had complete authority over the people and king james wanted it to say the king had complete authority over the people. And you just can't do that with Gods' word saying we wrestle against worldly governors.
Since people don’t seem to know.. worldly governors are the council of gods, mentioned elsewhere. The fallen angels who have territory claims rule regions of the earth. They are among the princes of this world, governing tribes and regions. Ba’al, Baphomrt, ect.. I see no contradiction.
Hey brother where was that you got that Greek word the cosmo cloicus lol or whatever however you spell it, will you share that with me where you got that and how you attained that, cuz I'm a 1611 authorized addition of the King James reader, and I'm really getting tired of people trying to say that the Geneva Bible is the correct translation when it's not, I want to know where you got that word meaning the governors are the worldly rulers or in the Greek you know what you said almost halfway into video, and could you spell that correctly for me cuz I don't know how to spell that word that you said in Greek lol
She's not wrong. She's just showing that your Bible has been changed. And with all the revisions it's pretty clear that it isn't the word of God at all.
Didn’t they fully cut the book of Enoch? And re canonize the Bible circa council of Nicea? Seems to me that a huge part of the divisions in sects of Christianity is their inability to agree on a universal Bible and theology
A King James-only apologist once gave me an article as to why only the KJV was the word of God. It's sole reasoning was that the preface to the KJV claimed it was written in "the language of the Holy Spirit". That was it. This article literally claimed that the KJV was inspired in a way that the earlier Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin texts weren't, and even went so far as to claim that God had no regard for "the originals" because now we have the KJV.
The authors of the KJV and the time period the authors lived in is not something that will ever be replicated. They were the literature Einsteins of the time. While I won’t defend the kjv to the point where I would say it’s 100% perfect, I will say that modern versions are corrupted being that they are copyrighted (unlike crown copyright the KJV holds, theirs is about making money). How many editions is the NIV on? So this is the word of God. No wait next year now this one is buy this one. No wait next year how about this one? God said his word is preserved for all generations. We only call it the King James Version as a modern thing to distinguish it from other versions. For 400 years it was commonly referred to as “The Bible”. Because that was the common bible. Modern versions take out the deity of Christ. They changed “saved” to “being saved”. They change “God created” to “God is creating” to conform with Darwinianism. The Bible changes with the times similar to the Mormon doctrine that changed and took out it’s racist parts to conform with the times. Not for me, what God says will never change in my church no matter how many laws the alphabet gang try to change. Reprobate doctrine has been removed from the church. Look at the state of the church in America. What’s the association? Luke warm preaching and corrupt versions. The devil has subtly replaced the double edged sword with a butter knife and many Christian’s will never know. It’s kinda hard to know when you’re not on the mission field. That’s where you find out the butter knife don’t cut too well. Also keep in mind English is the most important language right now for the spiritual war. No other churches send missionaries across the globe to risk their lives like the English speaking Christian churches do. And right now English is the language everyone wants to speak. That’s why so many countries their children learn English natively Asian countries Indian African. I believe that is all Gods plan and has to do with our missionaries.
@@latenttweet u know the kjv has been updated to. Also it was made to be a conservative response to the bishops Bible. Read the preface to the kjv and they will tell you their goal
@@latenttweet have you ever heard of the Catholic Church?? You do know they send out missionaries and their main language is Latin not English. You think they’re reading the Bible in English in all the Spanish speaking Catholic countries?? And the kjv want the most popular when it first came out it wasn’t until much later it became the most popular English version
Did Martin Luther really do the world a favor??? People are convincing me otherwise 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ the idea that the original texts arnt in English never crossed her mind. She just assumed that the whole of eternity is designed for her convince and she’s smarter than 2000 years of biblical scholars
My goodness. Such a hubbbub about a series of verses from a writing most biblical scholars recognize as a forgery. So whatever this guy wrote can be discounted entirely for no other reason than he’s clearly a person who has no qualms about lying. Next subject! 😂
@@billnott5811 My life has never nor will it ever be changed by someone else's experience, and I really don't know people who are that easily influenced that someone else's experience will change their lives, whether it be truth come or not; but thank you for the book recommendation however I'm really not into it 😊 Maybe if it was a good rom-com, or just a regular romance 🤷🏼
I have no desire to delve deeper into this creator's ramblings, but I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts she attributes these changes in the text to a dark conspiracy.
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She also seemed to ignore the plain reading of "not against flesh and blood" as she went on to insist that it is against flesh and blood.
Exactly
It is against flesh and blood.
The figure of speech used is called an ellipsis. Many misunderstand writings in general if you ignore the usage of figures of speech.
We rather obviously wrestle against flesh and blood. But the emphasis here is on the latter and not the former.
@brien5 Except that the "Not against flesh and blood" is, in context, saying that the enemy in that case is "principalities and powers", which is why it juxtaposes them. That is, it's not about human rulers.
You're ignoring the context to argue about something unrelated.
i mean if she believes the rulers or the world are literally not physical beings it all checks out. pretty sure it's not the case for politicians she likes bC hE's DiFfErEnT but whatever
@@chrisobrien5 That's not an ellipsis. An ellipsis is an omission.
I think it's the smugness that gets me. If it was presented as an observation that seems to imply a certain thing, that would be different.
Sadly, it shouldn't. People will say this plainly and still corrupt people with their dogma.
Amen. If they would simply chill out and ask questions, they might learn something. But you can't monetize humility.
This 100%. Sometimes my own worldview and upbringing make Dan's material hard to watch. This was the first video I've seen where I actually wanted Dan to demolish what she was saying. The smug attitude grated in a way I rarely get watching TH-cam these days.
I feel the same way. In the face of that gleeful, smug sanctimony it is just so hard to be gracious. So many apologists TH-camrs have this awful mannerism. It’s really nauseating! I guess the way to be less offended is to just know your stuff.
@GoodieWhiteHat I think it's even more significant to show humility. I grew up a 6-day creationist until I neared by mid-20s and opposed to marriage equality until my mid-30s. Nowadays I consider both incompatible with my faith and/or the evidence provided in the Bible and the world around me.
I've been wrong frequently and passionately enough that I am immediately suspicious of people who talk with a sense of superiority.
I'm eternally grateful that at the same time i began to attend church, i also took Bible as lit courses in high school, which kept me from ever seeing the Bible as univocal, literal or infallible. Best thing i ever could have done for myself.
You're going to Hell!
- some evangelical
I mostly agree with you. Jesus' words are infallible though.
Caution is needed here. A bible TRANSLATION, and the actual word of GOD, are not always in agreement. What GOD intended to be written is infallible,.....The translations, on the other hand, can stray from what was intended. 1 John 5:19 appears to support the fact that human governments, as well as other entities, are controlled by something other than their own endeavors. The words of Jesus back this up at John 14:30. Revelation 12:9 identifies exactly who that ruler is.
"but against rule, against power" at the beginning seems to be consistent in earlier translations. That's all I really need to know. What he is arguing is just on the examples that come after the main part. Rule and power is simple and easy to understand for me anyway. Any entity, human or other, seen or unseen, that tries to exert rule or power over us we should be against.
I appreciate you going through the older texts and pointing out the specific differences in translations and texts. It's really helpful to be able to see them yourself as opposed to just being told the translation is wrong or it was added to the manuscripts 👍
Tik Tok and TH-cam have brought us the true proof of Dunning-Kruger.
The 1599 edition of the Geneva Bible enhances the notes in Revelation, but the New Testament was revised in 1576 by Laurence Tomson.
Dunning-Krueger or intentional dissemination of disinformation to advance an anti-government political agenda.
Thankyou for sharing the Geneva bible certainly appears to be a more accurate translation of this verse 👍
"you will know this verse when I start reading it"
"I don't know what that is"
Also, as soon as I saw who the creator was.. I just stopped watching.
I'm not commenting on her appearance here, she just...
Her lack of education and curiosity and just taking things at face value is actually triggering for me lol.
"Let's eat Grandma."
Knowing your shit vs. knowing you’re shit
Underrated🤣
1599 was so woke!
ikr! 1300s version or bust!
The Geneva bible is great, really a treasure of English literature, and a wonderful Bible translation. You should definitely read it if you have the chance.
Yes, they took out the verses where Moses wrote the US constitution.
Lmfbo
You said what now
I listen to these content creators who Dan addresses, and I seriously worry for the future of humanity.
Smh...
Does she genuinely not know that the Bible wasn't originally written in English?
Americans think Jesus spoke English and the Bible was originally written in English.
They also have the "main character of this World syndrome"
😂😂😂😂
@@animegtrailer5208 They're going to be shocked when they find out about England...
God used three languages to his preserve his word. Latin is not one of them which corrupt texts came out of. There are other corrupt texts as well coming out of Alexandria and Rome. The Holy Scriptures has specific manuscripts as a textual basis. All others are forgeries and one can tell where the devil attacks specific doctrines including the deity of Christ.
What would truly surprise me would be if this woman FINALLY said something true and rational. I wonder if this woman knows that the Scriptures weren't originally written in English if she thinks this Geneva Bible is the original. I would like to think that she gets that but I honestly can't make that assumption given the bat shit crazy things she says and believes.
In religious studies classes, we used to refer to these types with the phrase: “In 1611 the King James fell from heaven.”
Wouldn't it be great to see a few of these foolish people create videos to withdraw their previous nonsense and to thank Dan, and others, for correcting them using data? I would pay to see that.
1 Timothy 2:12 (KJV)
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Lack of communications messes up everything there is a time and place for everything though 🤔🤨 man and woman should get in touch with each other more they should ask each other even about the things they know how do you feel about this do you like when I do this and then when you build up that relationship you start asking things that are a little more pertinent so on and so on that's how I have a good business works not that that's a business you have to use your imagination though 🤔🤨😎
That is in the church not out of it .
It's funny because this creator wouldn't dare reference what Romans 13:1-2 has to say.
It's also kind of funny that she doesn't talk about "forces of evil in the heavenly realm" to mean that there's evil in heaven in the same way she thinks the princes of darkness refers to worldly/world humans.
i always thought that the evil in heaven is the fact that the fallen one still has access to heaven. It's not till Revelations that the fallen one would be banned?
"Against the worldly governors" hasn't been omitted. In my NKJV, it reads "Against the rulers of the darkness of this world", which is a paraphrased meaning, but means the same.
Wow. For the inspired word of god this book sure has been changed ALOT through the centuries.
Does the Bible say it's the inspired word of God?
Regardless which verse of the Bible you prefer…. God just wants us to live a righteous life , love everyone as he loves us, and to believe in our Lord and savior Jesus who is the son of man and who sacrificed his life for us!
And even in English "worldly governors" is a phrase that could easily be understood as cosmic forces if preachers would teach it that way, just as the Bible sometimes describes angels as "princes" and most preachers I know do not try teach those verses as literal human royalty
Since when R angels human royalty ?
Angel is a job description = Messenger!
@@davidjanbaz7728
Angels can do other things besides being a messenger.
In Revelation, one angel was given power over the Sun to scorch people with heat.
In Daniel, it required 2 angels to deal with the prince of Persia because he was delaying one of them. Pretty sure they weren't talking about a heated debate.
Then you have:
-the angel that was gonna kill Balaam
-the angel who killed a whole army in one night
-the angel YHWH sent to cause pestilence on Jerusalem
There's no reason to believe angels can't be royalty. In fact, some scholars believe that the passage in Daniel implies the prince of Persia was an angel himself!
I love watching this woman to see just how much misinformation she puts out.. She never disappoints.
I love th hair animation
Original Bible in 1599? Wow.
Turns out Jesus actually wrote all of Shakespeare's works
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Officialand here all along I thought it was Bacon 😅
I will never understand people who want to pretend the bible is the literal word of god that must be followed to the letter... yet are utterly unwilling to learn greek to actually read the original words.
It's clear we fight against it all even our own blood because we are sinners we are in a constant battle even with ourselves!
It's wild that these people cannot grasp that a world existed prior to their own.
Oh dear. She's using the NIV.
One of my profs used to joke that it stood for the New Inaccurate Version because it’s one of the greater offenders of adding words or translating in a way that points people towards certain theological stances. LOL. 😅
"Not Inspired Version" was how I remembered conservative Bible students calling it, @@toritori5835
At least it's not the KJV...
"Not Inspired Version" is another one I've heard. :)
Which version should we be using?
That woman exemplifies confident ignorance.
I'm learning more Greek from you than I did with four Uni courses in Classical Greece lol.
This one is particularly excellent, IMO. Most people have no idea how much sheer _process_ can go into a document.
First thing: Batman shirts only. Second thing--- I enjoy your work, thank you. Batman rules.
Didn't Tyndale get himself burned at stake for his translation?
Better hide bruh how Yk this?
Dan could make a career at debunking her conspiracy theories and general nonsense.
Thank you for explaining this.
I wanna see a "familly tree" for the Bible for as far back as we know.
pretty sure there's lots of examples of that
I wish I could remember the name of the channel, but there is one that does precisely that, including portioning which books came from what sources.
Useful charts? @@MarcosElMalo2
@@MarcosElMalo2 It's called @UsefulCharts, I believe
It doesn't matter if it is spiritual powers or earthly powers. Because earthly powers that reject Jesus Christ's salvation and try and set themselves up as replacements for Jesus Christ's salvation, Become possessed by evil spirits. As soon as they reject Jesus Christ, they become anti-Christ. The enemies of God.
As a woman- this is why women should NOT try to decipher, explain, assume, or interpret from “their point of view”. We women are highly emotional creatures who get our emotional thinking ahead of our logical thinking. This is why Eve was targeted by the serpent. Eve got her assumptions and feelings ahead of the logical commands from God who gave it to Adam who gave it to Eve. We cannot be deceived by believing the “they said” from internet people. Jesus said to “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming “I am the Messiah”, and will deceive many.” Matthew 24:4. This also means to watch out for false “Gods word”. Not all “bibles” are Gods word. History is so incredibly important to carefully study. Deep dive into the important facts is essential! And have a Godly man who has wisdom and understanding to be there to lead.
1:04-1:08 No it’s not. “Ephesians” (Laodiceans) was definitely talking about the archons in outer space (it’s like that cult lady in Assassin’s Creed Valhalla).
I am waiting for someone to call the wycliffe bible "the original bible". I wouldn't hold it though considering how archaic it is to most people.
Thank you so much for clearing that up
I'm terrified of this kind of Christian...
Hey Dan, unrelated question for you. What's going on with Ruth uncovering Boaz's feet while he sleeps? I've heard different takes on whether that's a euphemism or should be understood literally and am wondering if you could clarify.
Thank you for your great work Dan. I know you recommend the NRSV Study Bible, but what do you think of the NASB (New American Standard Bible )? It's supposed To be one of the most accurate English translations?
❤ the NRSV. NASB is translated into English directly from the original languages. It’s a bit clunkier to read flow-wise. But is a pretty decent study Bible.
The Nag Hammadi Library and Dead Sea Scrolls are great reads, too.
Great break down
I still find it suspicious that King James had it removed , and his motivation is totally understandable
he was rebeling against the Catholic Church at this time
This dude sound brilliant with is spawn s-shirt on. Guys do you remember who spawn is? Jesus said know them by their fruits. Its Clear that this youtuber left out on purpose the wycliffe Bible translation dated 1382 that also supports what is written in the Geneva Bible written in the early 1500s concerning Ephesians 6:12 . Now before you read it remember it was translated into old English. This is what the Wycliffe Bible says in its translations of Ephesians 6:12"For whi stryuyng is not to vs ayens fleisch and blood, but ayens princis and potestatis, ayens gouernours of the world of these derknessis, ayens spiritual thingis of wickidnesse, in heuenli thingis."
Now I know the youtuber mentioned words inserted and cosmic world ya ya ya. But you must remember demons are evil spirits the same spirits that possessed and manipulated the Pharisees , the people in the times of Jesus and the governments governors to kill him. Again It was finally though the governments was Jesus death accomplished by Satan by use of a governor named Pilot. If this happened to Jesus and all of his disciples people do you think we are exempt especially when the book of revelation reveals its the rise Government that would eventually rule many to death. Therefore are we fighting normal men and women? the answer is No. On the surface if appears that way. This is what we know a natural man cannot kill it take a demonic spirit to influence and possess to kill and this task becomes especially easier when a government or governors in the government is involved.
The foundational truth of the matter is, if you want actual discernment to know what is true, you have to take it to our Father In Heaven personally and ask him humbly and sincerely for discernment..you don’t listen to someone wearing a Spawn T-shirt that glorifies the powers of hell
When you look at the goal of the state of the government and look at the goal of the enemy , they're the same
Dan, love your presentations!
In this one you seemed to be very short and almost upset at her.
Perhaps my brain over-thinking your words & reaction
Thank you.
Let's go all the way back to the council of Nicia. The Roman Catholic Pope and the state took control of the scriptures, abused the writings, rewrote/mistranslated the scriptures to suite their needs, added peganism practices then distributed it to the people as a means to control them. And dont forget, scripture was stolen text, written by and for Hebrews and the liniage of Abraham. The middle east is a created land on the continent of Africa, Alkebulon. The recent translations of the scriptures currently called the bible is still used to control people. Read the Torah writings and discover who the true Israelites, still living today hidden in every country by way of slavery,, really are. I know that this Truth is coming out and is all over the internet. I am a descendent of slaves, from the Tribe of Yahudah. We are waking up to the truth as described in the story of the waking up of the dry bones. Most High be praised forever.
0:26-0:31 It was probably Marcion’s epistle to the laodiceans that he wrote in the mid-second century CE that was referred to in the muratorian canon. Like “Luke,” the epistle was likely doctored by orthodox scribes to sound more orthodox (basically whatever tertullian said, but the exact opposite).
I went down such deep rabbit holes thinking id be able to find the perfect version but it didnt exist. God's Word of course is perfect but these translations are just that, translations and they will never be perfect. At the end of the day i just pray no version ever goes extinct because as long as nothing is hidden from me im confident ill always be able to eventually find the truth... My faith will not allow anything less...
They're all man made, rehashed Cannanite and Phoenician myths. No more truth than Harry Potter or a cookbook.
it is the Spirit which quickeneth, flesh profiteth nothing.
5:33 "...we have the appositional sense of the final clause ..." and the YT transcriber displaying it as " ... oppositional sense ..." There is no hope!
Well it appears there are those who want to believe one thing and another that wants to disbelieve and they all put together their vague understandings and misunderstandings dancing all over the Bibles shaped text. I guess it will be never ending because the weight that these writings have had on society. I would think that if this book wasn't given such credence , then all this erratic understandings would just be , like basic literature, delving into its meanings to you and NOT trying to prove it's an infallible document.
For starter the catholic bible includes whole books removed by the protestant reformers
Not even directly by Protestant reformers but people too cheap to print the whole set of texts lmao
This is the original scripture from... something other than the original scripture.
The alleged change doesn't even make sense, because the Bible is already full of anti-government messages. Why would you change that verse?
Hello Dan, nice video!
Does the app E-Sword accurately use the original Dead Sea Scrolls? If not, where can we find the original text of the Bible?
As soon as I saw it was her, I knew the disinformation was going to be flying fast and thick.
Dan I’m impressed with your level of knowledge.
When did you begin your journey of studying the Bible and its history
The great fact is that the Bible has been revised a ton lol
Just wow!
Is there a modern English version of the bible that's a direct translation from the source texts?
Look at an annotated version of Shakespeare's plays - better yet, try reading a couple without footnotes.
It's very rough going, since not only has the language changed *a lot,* but the cultural context is very different and many of the allusions or jokes - which come thick & fast - are completely lost on us now.
Now go back another 1400+ years for the earliest New Testament books, written for a minority sect of Judaism initially struggling for acceptance in that culture, later moving around the Mediterranean and changing its audience and goals...
I find it very hard to imagine how a single translation could cover all that territory well, without having 10× more footnotes than text, and without enraging people who believe their current Bible is the One True Bible, written in English as God intended.
And then there's the Old Testament...
The Holy Spirit (ruach) comes to guide our spirit into truth and discern error.. knowing this, flesh and blood is referring to an individual person, rulers of darkness is the system that's guided by them.
What do you think is the best original test Dan..
He's wrong! Be careful of the arrogant! The geneva bible yes was after the previous mentioned translations, BUT the difference is that this bible is translated VERY carefully DIRECTLY from the Hebrew texts and the greek and Roman texts. EVERYONE WHO WANT THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD NEEDS TO GO BACK. DONT BELEIVE THE LIES, THE KINDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!!!
Thanks for this! What would you say is the most accurate word for word translation from the original texts to English?
If she would just read the Preface to some of the modern English translations, she'd learn a ton about the source texts. Too many people don't read the Preface.
She's either promoting anarchism or "taxation is theme" talking points wrapped in religion.
Everything written evil inside the bible has never been erased but only repeated for humans destruction
The Apostle Paul - Mentions the Way of Salvation
Paul did not detest the Law of Moses. Paul actually believed in The Law,
but did not understand that God was going to bring in the grace. It had
to first be a sacrifice - and that sacrifice was Jesus Christ.
Paul did not detest The Law but quoted from Moses and explained what Moses
could not explain back then, because it wasn't time yet.
Moses means "drawn out" - and God used Moses to 'draw out' Israel from Egypt. The Hebrews spent scores of years in Egypt, and it was time to
move on.
The word 'Church' means "Called Out" - by Christ, the Church was called out
of the world to make a people for God.
In the epistles written by Paul, especially Romans and Galatians he explained the purpose of the church.
In The Law in Deuteronomy 32 - God had Moses teach Joshua and the Children
of Israel a song. This song was going to attest what the Children of Israel
was going to do, including turning their back on God.
But... in the end, God would bring Israel back. In that chapter, the Church was foretold due to Israel's idolatry which caused jealousy from God. For
that reason God used a people that were not a people to cause Israel to jealousy. The Apostle Paul explains this in Romans 9, 10, and 11.
Acts 13:38,39
38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Cosmic rulers- the anunnaki, such as Anu, Enki, and Enlil.
See Matthew 23 where Jesus completely wrecks the scribes and pharisees, the rulers of his area. Also, all the prophets of the old testament prophesied against the rulers of their day. John the Baptist was beheaded because he told King Herod that it wasn't lawful for him to have his brother's wife.
Ha, what would be even more amazing is if some TRUTH had been INSERTED into the Bible.
That's your ignorant opinion!
@@davidjanbaz7728 It is indeed.
Please read “ Embraced By The Light “ by Betty Eadie if u want actualy truth
@@billnott5811 Nothing happens when you die, you cease to exist. The threat/promise of an afterlife is a piece of snake oil salesmanship.
Thank you!
@7:04 clarification of what? Observing, experiencing, interpreting is still far to open considering the context
Anyone that uses the terminology "C.E.," you can pretty much tune out.
but tyndale and coverdale didn't translate into greek. they translated into latin and english. so worldly would have those definitions. and since no one is allowed to read the original greek and hebrew (and some aramaic) including YOU... we cannot verify that the greek word kosmokratoras was the correct word used. Eramus' translation is still a translation, it is not the original text.. The original source would be needed to verify accurately. BUT we do know that "principalities, against powers would establish a spiritual warfare, so... there's no sense repeating that with the word "cosmic" in the same verse since it has already been established. therefore "worldly governors" means exactly what it says as it was translated into latin and english. nice try though. As far as "we wrestle not against flesh and blood" you would be wrestling against the power given to the worldly governors so that is accurate. so it is not in contradiction with the scripture. The problem we run into with translations is they can be as seriously flawed as the king james because humans are translating them. erasmus could have also thrown in cosmic because like the pope he wanted to change it, the reader has no way of knowing. The catholic church removed 14 books of the bible and changed or left out scriptures to suit the catholic ideology. which in its self is a grossly flawed teaching which directly contradicts Gods' word. and it's no wonder why they deleted "worldly governors" as the pope wanted the scripture to say the pope had complete authority over the people and king james wanted it to say the king had complete authority over the people. And you just can't do that with Gods' word saying we wrestle against worldly governors.
Geneva -> Acts 12:4 Passover
KJV-> Acts 12:4
Easter
She seems to have forgotten Romans 13:1.
.the best translations are the newest ones. The translators know more about the languages they are translating. (From and into, both languages)
Spirit controls, either Gods Spirit rules us or diverse spirits control tge flesh. 🙏🏽
Honestly super cringy when anybody says “BCE” or “CE”. They lose all credibility to me when doing so.
Since people don’t seem to know.. worldly governors are the council of gods, mentioned elsewhere. The fallen angels who have territory claims rule regions of the earth. They are among the princes of this world, governing tribes and regions. Ba’al, Baphomrt, ect.. I see no contradiction.
Hey brother where was that you got that Greek word the cosmo cloicus lol or whatever however you spell it, will you share that with me where you got that and how you attained that, cuz I'm a 1611 authorized addition of the King James reader, and I'm really getting tired of people trying to say that the Geneva Bible is the correct translation when it's not, I want to know where you got that word meaning the governors are the worldly rulers or in the Greek you know what you said almost halfway into video, and could you spell that correctly for me cuz I don't know how to spell that word that you said in Greek lol
She's not wrong. She's just showing that your Bible has been changed.
And with all the revisions it's pretty clear that it isn't the word of God at all.
Y’all in a cult anyway. Btw do you think you’d convince that lady when you’re wearing a spawn Tshirt? Hmm
Plot twist: there are way way more than 2 bibles
Didn’t they fully cut the book of Enoch? And re canonize the Bible circa council of Nicea?
Seems to me that a huge part of the divisions in sects of Christianity is their inability to agree on a universal Bible and theology
It always crack me up when people think the word of God would be in English 🤣🤣🤣
A King James-only apologist once gave me an article as to why only the KJV was the word of God. It's sole reasoning was that the preface to the KJV claimed it was written in "the language of the Holy Spirit". That was it. This article literally claimed that the KJV was inspired in a way that the earlier Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin texts weren't, and even went so far as to claim that God had no regard for "the originals" because now we have the KJV.
@@NewhamMatt yeah kjv only churches are confusing to me. The translation is inspired but the original is not 🤔🥴🫠
The authors of the KJV and the time period the authors lived in is not something that will ever be replicated. They were the literature Einsteins of the time.
While I won’t defend the kjv to the point where I would say it’s 100% perfect, I will say that modern versions are corrupted being that they are copyrighted (unlike crown copyright the KJV holds, theirs is about making money). How many editions is the NIV on? So this is the word of God. No wait next year now this one is buy this one. No wait next year how about this one?
God said his word is preserved for all generations. We only call it the King James Version as a modern thing to distinguish it from other versions. For 400 years it was commonly referred to as “The Bible”. Because that was the common bible.
Modern versions take out the deity of Christ. They changed “saved” to “being saved”. They change “God created” to “God is creating” to conform with Darwinianism. The Bible changes with the times similar to the Mormon doctrine that changed and took out it’s racist parts to conform with the times. Not for me, what God says will never change in my church no matter how many laws the alphabet gang try to change. Reprobate doctrine has been removed from the church.
Look at the state of the church in America. What’s the association? Luke warm preaching and corrupt versions.
The devil has subtly replaced the double edged sword with a butter knife and many Christian’s will never know. It’s kinda hard to know when you’re not on the mission field. That’s where you find out the butter knife don’t cut too well.
Also keep in mind English is the most important language right now for the spiritual war. No other churches send missionaries across the globe to risk their lives like the English speaking Christian churches do. And right now English is the language everyone wants to speak. That’s why so many countries their children learn English natively Asian countries Indian African. I believe that is all Gods plan and has to do with our missionaries.
@@latenttweet u know the kjv has been updated to. Also it was made to be a conservative response to the bishops Bible. Read the preface to the kjv and they will tell you their goal
@@latenttweet have you ever heard of the Catholic Church?? You do know they send out missionaries and their main language is Latin not English. You think they’re reading the Bible in English in all the Spanish speaking Catholic countries?? And the kjv want the most popular when it first came out it wasn’t until much later it became the most popular English version
The king james Censored and outlawed the Geneva bible because it criticized his divine rule. I tbknk that was her point.
Did Martin Luther really do the world a favor??? People are convincing me otherwise 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ the idea that the original texts arnt in English never crossed her mind. She just assumed that the whole of eternity is designed for her convince and she’s smarter than 2000 years of biblical scholars
My goodness. Such a hubbbub about a series of verses from a writing most biblical scholars recognize as a forgery. So whatever this guy wrote can be discounted entirely for no other reason than he’s clearly a person who has no qualms about lying. Next subject! 😂
How are you okay with adding and removing text from the Bible?
The Dems did it. Party like it's 1599 !
there is no original version of the bible..
live with it!
Please read “Embraced By the Light “ by Betty Eadie
I'm waiting till the christians have their personal relationship with Jesus kept private😊
Please read “ Embraced By The Light “ by Betty Eadie
@@billnott5811
My life has never nor will it ever be changed by someone else's experience, and I really don't know people who are that easily influenced that someone else's experience will change their lives, whether it be truth come or not; but thank you for the book recommendation however I'm really not into it 😊 Maybe if it was a good rom-com, or just a regular romance 🤷🏼
The Bible was written by men, not an invisible friend in the sky!
Should we also mention the Geneva bible was a politically charged bible that was instrumental during the Reformation?
I have no desire to delve deeper into this creator's ramblings, but I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts she attributes these changes in the text to a dark conspiracy.