I would be interested in seeing a large party (a few hundred people) trek into the valley, stay together, and spend a year or so investigating the entire valley. What would happen when there isn't an easy target (small groups)?
Yeah, I wish there was some celebrity that took interest in paying people for these kinds of story investigations. The only issue is that it's been over a hundred years since these incidents. If it's a murder group, they're long dead by now. If it was a native tribes group, they're either long died out, migrated, or their current generation wouldn't be the same to offer anything of note. If it was some other humanoid or feral species causing these killings, they would be long dead as well. You could end up sending in an elite squad and either finding nothing or just some tribe group that has no knowledge of what their original group may have done back then. It's similar to investigating cryptids. Most of the cryptid stories are hoaxes. The few that sort of sound believable when mentioning feral creatures or humanoid races happened too long ago to even justify an investigation now. Some of the cryptid stories that sound like they're about a unique animal that the witnesses just assumed was a monster are probably just a rare rare undiscovered animal. If it was super rare as the only reason why people were able to witness or see evidence of its attacks, it's long extinct a hundred years later.
Yup, post several thousand people, cameras, drones, etc... there for a year or two and surveil every bit of the areas where this stuff took place. Unfortunately, as NDT pointed out, it's unlikely they'll find anything.
@@andrzejszpak688 People might think otherwise, but are people forgetting that all of these deaths in this one stretch of valley are ALL related to Gold, think about it people, everyone that goes into that valley looking for gold wind up dying in some way from decapitation, burned or froze to death, one of the circles of hell is Greed and the first example even has what likely can be viewed as a test with the boat being tipped over having all the gold the two did find be lost, they couldn't find any more gold so they left after that and the two were allowed to leave without incident, once the other came back along with two other people, they're all found dead. It's likely also why whenever the police are called to investigate each and every single body that's found, they're permitted to come and go because whatever entity is out in that valley KNOWS they aren't there to be greedy which is probably why you don't even hear any mention of any of the officers finding any when they do, probably because that gold doesn't actually exist it's just a trick by whatever entity is out there that intends to test anyone with greedy intentions.
19:40 I’d imagine because they were brothers they probably stuck together in times of danger whereas their friend took off for his own life. The brothers might have chose freeze or fight and their friend might have chose flight since he wouldn’t have felt as emotionally attached to protect them and probably feel more fear rather then a need to protect
The animals don’t or rarely eat the head of their prey, because there are too many bones and little meat, they will eat the most tender parts, where there is more meat. So I find it bizarre that the only missing parts of the bodies are the head and also, animals don't light fires. Which leads me to believe that they were not killed by animals. I'm sure the police came to the same conclusion. I'm Canadian and I know that the mounted police aka "the Mounty" are trained to survive in the wild…So they know a lot more than they say.
I've seen every Mr Ballen vid at least once, and I still love watching other folks react to his vids. It's like when you discover a new band and have to share it with your friends.
It honestly sounds like a mix of the natives killing off people disrespecting someplace sacred to them, accidents (folks falling into the water), and murders being covered up.
Probably I can definitely see that. But then again…the lady running up the hill like an animal? The scary animal like noises at night? The natives themselves literally vanishing overnight with NO evidence just gone? Dozens on dozens on dozens of people vanishing NEVER to be found again? Im not claiming nor denying anything. But idk something else is definitely going on out there it can’t all be the natives doing that. Like out in these massive “cursed” forests where dozens & sometimes even HUNDREDS of people going missing never to be found again & there’s no native tribes in the area? There’s definitely something going on out there. We just don’t know & that’s the scariest thing.
@@DanielKinanga Unfortunately, situations like this probably have very simple explanations. Murderers, for example, could lure folks out there with promises of gold, finding out what's really going on out there, etc... And the consistency of the killings lines up with humans attacking one another.
@@RicochetForce The only thing that really complicates the whole murderers luring people in is the fact that the first brothers did strike gold. They returned themselves and told their third brother... unless the third brother is the one who decided to kill them off. Maybe he did go with the trio and decided to make the story up after?
@@ndt7379 Yeah, see what I mean? An easy lure, and an easy way of offing people where the survivor can just claim some mysterious event killed their compatriots.
A lot of people don't know that there were sparks of natives fighting with ranchers out west even into the 1920s. In some place far more remote and secluded, such things could be gotten away with for even longer.
What's worse is that this happened entire centuries ago. All the weirdest incidents like this happened too long ago for it to be possible for there to be closure now. Whether it was a murder group, past native tribe, or species, they've long died out by now. Similar to the Siera sounds incident, whatever made those sounds is either dead or long gone from that area.
@@ndt7379 i would not bet on it, especially if it's a tribe that is unknown, wich is very possible and since most pre industrial tribes were VERY territorial and quite brutal in their ways of punishment even against other native tribes, their numbers could still be in the thousands as we have no reference, god knows there is enough places to hide. I would not want to test it, maybe with a batallion of marines, thermal sights, air cover and so on XD
@@DerDrecksack87 There aren't many tribes that number in the thousands within easily accessible areas for civilized humans to come across. If it were thousands, we'd have come across them by now in those mountains. There's a enough places for about a hundred of them to hide within the mountains, but a thousand is a pretty big group to not be visible after a while. Then again, they did start blocking off the ability to access those parts about 40+ years ago, so nobody really has returned there... You have a point.
@@ndt7379 @NDT u can never know, my buddy likes cave diving, had me watch dozens of videos about it so i get lured in to making the certification, but its not gonna happen, i feel too unconfortable in tight underwater places. However, i did learn a lot about caves and man they can stretch for thousands of miles, some wet caves are even interconnected, ending in the ocean through intricate tunnel systems. If those caves are really old and the surrounding water goes back during the millennia, they become dry caves, so u can imagine that if they live in these caves (cooking, sleeping, socialising) and they only go out to hunt, it would be exceptionally hard to find traces, especially if they adapted to low light conditions, going out at dawn like most of these stories suggest, the channel What lurkes below touches on that and how indigineous tribes think they are ancestors that did not migrate thousands of years ago. We do have tribes in the amazon forrest that know that there are other people and technology outside of their domain but choose to remain isolated and react extremely violent when approached, especially because they tried several times to communicate that they don't want anybody on their turf yet people kept coming until they started killing intruders, now they are protected by the govt. and their area is off limits. Man this gives me Bone Tomahawk vibes XD
When I first saw that very last picture of the valley in the sunlight and the river glistening all I could think was "Some people don't even know that that beauty is hiding a sinister secret." because at the end of the day you do have to admit that the Nahani Valley does look beautiful. I believe that these creatures are protecting something and whether that be an ancient burial ground or the valley as a whole I don't think anyone will ever truly know but as I stated I believe that they are protecting something and they are going through great lengths to do so.
The narrative being spun is a wendigo spirit wendigos apparently have the ability to bring up blizzards at a moments notice they aren’t technically a being more a spirit which explains why annie was crawling around naked and why the guy froze to death looking like nothing was wrong because they were both possessed wendigos are known to fear fire phil possibly burned his house to get rid of the wendigo but died in the process the other 2 most likely tried the same thing but when they tried to run off they got run down wendigos also mimic voices and animals and are described as emaciated white figures they are also extremely territorial
From the way that Mr. Ballen had said, I can come up with 2 conclusions. Either: A. The headless valley is truly haunted by demons, tempting people with vasts amount of gold and then get killed by demonic forces. B. The valley was occupied by a Native Tribe who was living in the caves & killed anyone who trespassed That one with the naked woman can either be her succumbing to the evil of the valley or she truly went crazy & was kidnapped by the native tribe, but what don't make sense is how she turned so quickly if that was the case
My guess is the native tribe kept killing to stop others from stealing their gold. It's far more likely their gave the woman some hallucinating stuff and she went berserk from it. The frozing in place is weird but i suspect the tribe had to do something with it too.
@Lubbock Babes Fan sounds like aliens. Especially with how the natives were talking about the "white figures". Cause yeah it could've been a cannibal tribe with white clay on them BUT I doubt they had the technological advancements to literally freeze someone to death in an INSTANT and if these aliens did have some sort of Lazer weapon, that could theoretically cause fires which is how their camps were burnt down. Maybe aliens were killing the humans and taking their heads to research the human brain and also taking the gold cause you can do a lot of shit with gold and it just so happens that gold is one of the most conductive. You can do a lot of technological shit with gold. That might be why the police really weren't trying to do a full investigation cause they've been trying to cover up aliens for a while, it's only recently that they admitted to aliens being here. It has to be aliens or some kind of paranormal entity that's preventing people from taking from the land. I refuse to believe it was any human that did it, specifically because of the time that it was in NO HUMAN could freeze somebody to death instantly, setting fires, yeah a human can do that. But freezing someone to death INSTANTLY in the early 1900s? No way did a human do that.
I almost wonder if the lady was having a major manic episode. Back then that mental health stuff wasn’t really even acknowledged and it’s possible she just snapped and had a major mental episode causing her to wander off and do that.
This is Legit. There's a H.U.G.E. Swath of territory that goes from high definition to minecraft block, close up. Aka, pixel blur......the **** are they hiding?!
That doesn't sound naturally occurring. Bodies don't be naturally burnt without heads. Also, remember the body that appeared to be reaching towards the gun? How you naturally die like that? The most logical theories are that either Robert unalived them, or they were attacked. Either way at the very least those two brothers were 100% attacked.
I think that Annie the guy (forgot his name lol) said he saw was not her but one of the white figures skinned her face off from her head (since they decapitate visitors) and wore it on its own. Because remember, he said her face looked strange as if she was possessed but I think it just wasn't her. I know this theory creepy but this whole damn story is thou!!!! 😭😭😭😭 Idk man, idk. 😂😂
Or another sinister theory would be As some sort of disturbing ritual they deafened her, rendered her blind & mute(i.e removed all her senses) After which they set her free. The guy did saw Annie but she had no way of knowing he was there or even scream for help. She could only try to get away from whatever did her harm. And sadly without realizing lost her one chance of receiving help🥶 Or who knows the things might have been following her and by just exiting the situation the guy saved himself.
So the two gold prospectors that found the frozen man did actually make it out with gold? Also, the search parties always seem to make it out okay; so go in with a couple dozen people is what I say 🤷🏻♂️
In these prospectors defense, this was back in the early 90's. Like you said at the start, it was an entirely different climate at the time. Someone deciding to live out in the woods or in the mountains would not be a rare occurrence, given that that this kind of thing was normal at the time. They wouldn't be sacrificing all that technology people today are to make that choice. There was no internet and the way news traveled was very different. The second guy going after 8 years is understandable, like you both said. The third person and 4th ended up happening many years later. For all we know, they must have only heard of the killings like they were rumors. Imagine being someone from out of town thinking you could go strike hold and then people start telling you something that sounds like a goofy ghost story about the mountains nearby. Lot's of people wouldn't believe it. There's no internet or anything like that to truly confirm these things happened. One of the last killings mentioned in the video happened almost 30 or so years after the first one's, so who knows if the news about these occurrences even got to the that guy who decided to go in. As for the cop thing. It does sound like they either DIDN'T want to do their jobs, were too scared to go lurking what was essentially a killing grounds by themselves to investigate further, or may have had some knowledge of what was going on. There's so many guesses I can make out of what occurs. Maybe there was another group of people who originally found out this place was rife with gold and decided they didn't want people continuing to flock there, so killed and burned the evidence of the first brothers. After a while, maybe it just got out of hand and they eased into working their killings with the rumors, making sure they'd keep killing people the same way, until they eventually stopped doing it that way. The case of the woman running is quite interesting. She was the first (recorded) woman to go missing after the brothers were killed. What if the killers just decided a woman.. was better off alive to be sexually assaulted by them? That would explain her being naked and running on her feet that night. Maybe she had escaped for a bit and was just scrambling awkwardly in terror up the mountain that way. It also could have just been attributed to an early generation of the tribe not wanting people on their grounds and murdering intruders for it. The reason why those specific kind of killings stopped could be because the later generation simply didn't want to just murder people that way and preferred to simply scare them away, hence the last one's coming to warn people.
Then again, this was nearly 10 centuries ago. Like the Siera woods sounds, this could be another (presumably) case of an unknown species or non-native group of humanoids that lived in the woods at the time. They came out at the night similarly to the Siera thing, so who knows if they're the same. It doesn't have to be some monster mumbo jumbo stuff like that either. Maybe it was just a third species out there that by now is likely long extinct. Something you two may not know is that there were two kinds of humanoid species in ancient times, the Neanderthals and Homosapiens. We evolved from the Homosapiens, while the Neanderthals went extinct. The Homosapiens were more evolved kinds of cavemen, while the Neanderthals were straight up ferals much stronger than us. We ended up outlasting them because we evolved our way of hunting. The Neanderthals relied completely on their superiorly build bodies (they were larger, stronger, hairier, etc.) to hunt but ultimately died from not adapting. It's presumed they had long died out before 40k years ago, but what if some of them did survive? That could explain weird cases like the Siera sounds. They could all be long extinct NOW, but who's to say a very small portion of them did not survive until the early 1900s? It would explain a lot of weird incidents. Remember, there's a shit ton of tribes living in the edges of the rain forest. The rain forest is barely explored by us because it's too dangerous. We're constantly finding new species from it every day. We know there's thousands of other species of animals undiscovered within it. Who's to say the rest of the world didn't have situations like that until many of them truly did go extinct before the 2000s? The rain forest could very well have a third humanoid race living in the deepest parts of it. It could even have smaller, almost dinosaur-like creatures that are able to survive within those areas as well. There's so much of the earth we still have no explored. Regardless of all that, I still feel like the poor woman who was seen ended up just getting kidnapped by whatever group or race was living in those woods to be kept as a sex slave. She was missing for like 6 months before she was seen, so who knows what kind of abuse, forms of drugging, or handling could have caused her to run like that. For all we know, maybe her treatment caused her to devolve or lose her mind. Sorry for the long post! I'm typing on my phone, so there's gonna be lots of typos.
What about the flash frozen man? People can't flash freeze someone, my thing is aliens with a fort hidden in the mountains/underwater keeping a base private. The white figures may be like guard dogs to deter people, imagine them crawling out of the caves of the valley.
Wendigos buddy it has all the signs white tall figures native tribes being aware of them and the burned cabins are because they’re territorial wendigos are a spirit that possesses people which explains the naked lady and the frozen death and they fear fire
I believe Kidd was right about the creatures attacking people who are looking for gold. The gold there feels like a trap. What if the creatures placed gold in those areas as a trap to lure people in, capture them, and then kill them? It seems odd that people have been killed when all were looking for gold.. and if some weren’t, who would “camp” there after hearing stories of people being decapitated or gone missing? They’re very brave because I couldn’t, shouldn’t, and wouldn’t.
That's the only reason police declare things "accidents" that are clearly not accidents and refuse to investigate any further. They either know what's going on and want to keep it from the public, or they're directly involved with what's going on.
Honestly if it were up to me and if I was given a blank check to handle it, it can be handled by either; Sending a huge platoon to go into the place and make a fortress to prevent whatever is attacking them being burned down to comb the area or Just drop a bomb strong enough to obliterate these canyons (I know, disrespect to nature in it's most rawest form) so that way whatever is hiding will be flushed out of those caves Either way, if the Police are only saying "they starved and their heads were taken away" as their only excuse, then get better people or just send in high tech drones to survey and position around the area
This happened in the early 1990s and ended around the 1940s. There were no drones or mobile phones around at the time to do this do your last suggestions. None of the police force remaining now is the same as those who were alive back then, so I doubt they'd make the same excuse. The 80s and early 90s had a lot of people migrating into America intentionally or unintentionally. There's a large chance it could have been a migrated group that ended up having a second or third generation that had no understanding of outside civilization just killing who they believed were intruders too. Whatever the case, they'd eventually dwindle in numbers and die out completely. I doubt anything related to those killings is alive by the early 2000s, whether it be just murders, a native group, or creatures.
@@ndt7379 ok, first of all... 1. it's early 1890's, you're a century ahead there 2. I didn't gave a specific date as I was meaning today, just anything to let us have more security around 3. A lot of people believe they died out, but we still got Skinwalker Ranch very much active so how about that logic to help too?
@@snakejesus Skinwalker Ranch is based around supernatural stuff, which is completely bogus. It's stuff about UFO's and creatures with glowing red eyes that are immune to bullets.
I wouldn’t go out there for any amount of $. Only way I can see that being safe is with a legitimate military unit goes & always has ppl awake on security. Sleeping in shifts, perimeter security covering the group
Am I the only one who's looked at this area on maps and Google. I understand these events were long ago and will most likely remain a mystery. But so far I've found a spot that I can drive to from where I'm at in Florida that puts me up just east of Nahanni National Reserve. Also I've matched up the river systems to what was shown in the video. I simply would love to just go up to the rough general area they did and try to pan for one little nugget of gold. There's so much unbelievably vast amounts of space up there you really could hide a entire civilization up there in their own little world.
I’d say it’s a violent tribe if not for the man being frozen in place. The naked women I could believe wasn’t actually the missing woman, but a tribeswoman, considering she was apparently hundreds of yards away. If it was the missing woman, that’s just really unsettling. But the frozen man is just unexplainable if that’s true. The only realistic explanation is that he chose to stay in that position as he froze, which honestly makes less sense to me than the notion of it being some supernatural threat.
The Native Americans purposely tried to avoid that area. There were stories of a violent tribe back in the day, but I think they're extinct. There are some supernatural beliefs in that area, regarding versatile animals...
I think the native tribe was taking their heads and using them for some sort of sacrifice, if was them all along, they never wanted them there, that's my theory.
Gold travels down mountains through the rivers more north you go more mountains and more rivers and lakes especially in NWT ive doing some studying cause where I plan to do some gold prospecting myself although I wont be going to Nahanni I plan on being just a little bit east of the valley maybe like 3miles of the Nahanni park border, but I'm bringing guns and a shit ton of dynamite just to be safe. All my friends and people I've asked are to chicken shit to come so ill be going in deep solo. Nothing ventured nothing gained and if I lose my head well at least I dont have to deal with the lunacy of todays society and there's a good potential I can come out filthy rich so win-win
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Honestly I don't blame the police if you are going to go somewhere you know is dangerous and multiple murder's plus decapitations have occurred hey your problem 🤷♂️
don't be a police then 😑 because as a police you must do your job weather the person was being stupid or not although the people in this story where being stupid as a police to say oh thats there problem to me thats wrong because I feel like to be honest nobody ever thinks it will happen to them thats like stealing from a shop many people have gotten in big trouble for stealing but does that ever stop other people from stealing no it doesn't and why because they don't think that they will get Catch stealing and then some people just don't care but most people never thing things will happen to them until they are in that position but thats not all when they get Catch the police will come and lock them up but when its time to investigate they don't want to do there job and I'm not mad I'm just saying thats no excuse to not do there job people do stupid things all the time that doesn't mean anything that's all I'm saying have a blessed day 😊😊😊
Nobody needs to know why they died. Just stay the fuck out. People clearly are not welcome there. They don't need to tell me who, or why. The headless bodies should be all the info anybody needs as to why they shouldn't go there. It's a darwin award going in at this point.
A bear propped the rifle up on a tree with the man's arm reaching out for it. Then, 8 years later, a fire breathing dragon burned the camp site to the ground and decapitated the man. Is that what those police thought? Because that's the only explanation I can think of for these attacks. Any other thoughts about this?
Probably soo. If you think about it unlike these two, the natives were protecting their land from outsiders. And wether you believe it or not the Natives might have used some kind of sorcery.
I would be interested in seeing a large party (a few hundred people) trek into the valley, stay together, and spend a year or so investigating the entire valley. What would happen when there isn't an easy target (small groups)?
Yeah, I wish there was some celebrity that took interest in paying people for these kinds of story investigations. The only issue is that it's been over a hundred years since these incidents. If it's a murder group, they're long dead by now. If it was a native tribes group, they're either long died out, migrated, or their current generation wouldn't be the same to offer anything of note. If it was some other humanoid or feral species causing these killings, they would be long dead as well. You could end up sending in an elite squad and either finding nothing or just some tribe group that has no knowledge of what their original group may have done back then.
It's similar to investigating cryptids. Most of the cryptid stories are hoaxes. The few that sort of sound believable when mentioning feral creatures or humanoid races happened too long ago to even justify an investigation now. Some of the cryptid stories that sound like they're about a unique animal that the witnesses just assumed was a monster are probably just a rare rare undiscovered animal. If it was super rare as the only reason why people were able to witness or see evidence of its attacks, it's long extinct a hundred years later.
Yup, post several thousand people, cameras, drones, etc... there for a year or two and surveil every bit of the areas where this stuff took place. Unfortunately, as NDT pointed out, it's unlikely they'll find anything.
yeah and you people should build a midsommar type dorm where everyone can sleep under the same room or atleast 50 - 50.
There have been entire native American tribes that vanished overnight in that place
@@andrzejszpak688 People might think otherwise, but are people forgetting that all of these deaths in this one stretch of valley are ALL related to Gold, think about it people, everyone that goes into that valley looking for gold wind up dying in some way from decapitation, burned or froze to death, one of the circles of hell is Greed and the first example even has what likely can be viewed as a test with the boat being tipped over having all the gold the two did find be lost, they couldn't find any more gold so they left after that and the two were allowed to leave without incident, once the other came back along with two other people, they're all found dead.
It's likely also why whenever the police are called to investigate each and every single body that's found, they're permitted to come and go because whatever entity is out in that valley KNOWS they aren't there to be greedy which is probably why you don't even hear any mention of any of the officers finding any when they do, probably because that gold doesn't actually exist it's just a trick by whatever entity is out there that intends to test anyone with greedy intentions.
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I’d imagine because they were brothers they probably stuck together in times of danger whereas their friend took off for his own life. The brothers might have chose freeze or fight and their friend might have chose flight since he wouldn’t have felt as emotionally attached to protect them and probably feel more fear rather then a need to protect
The animals don’t or rarely eat the head of their prey, because there are too many bones and little meat, they will eat the most tender parts, where there is more meat. So I find it bizarre that the only missing parts of the bodies are the head and also, animals don't light fires. Which leads me to believe that they were not killed by animals. I'm sure the police came to the same conclusion. I'm Canadian and I know that the mounted police aka "the Mounty" are trained to survive in the wild…So they know a lot more than they say.
I've seen every Mr Ballen vid at least once, and I still love watching other folks react to his vids. It's like when you discover a new band and have to share it with your friends.
It honestly sounds like a mix of the natives killing off people disrespecting someplace sacred to them, accidents (folks falling into the water), and murders being covered up.
Probably I can definitely see that. But then again…the lady running up the hill like an animal? The scary animal like noises at night? The natives themselves literally vanishing overnight with NO evidence just gone? Dozens on dozens on dozens of people vanishing NEVER to be found again? Im not claiming nor denying anything. But idk something else is definitely going on out there it can’t all be the natives doing that. Like out in these massive “cursed” forests where dozens & sometimes even HUNDREDS of people going missing never to be found again & there’s no native tribes in the area? There’s definitely something going on out there. We just don’t know & that’s the scariest thing.
@@DanielKinanga Unfortunately, situations like this probably have very simple explanations. Murderers, for example, could lure folks out there with promises of gold, finding out what's really going on out there, etc...
And the consistency of the killings lines up with humans attacking one another.
@@RicochetForce The only thing that really complicates the whole murderers luring people in is the fact that the first brothers did strike gold. They returned themselves and told their third brother... unless the third brother is the one who decided to kill them off. Maybe he did go with the trio and decided to make the story up after?
@@ndt7379 Yeah, see what I mean? An easy lure, and an easy way of offing people where the survivor can just claim some mysterious event killed their compatriots.
A lot of people don't know that there were sparks of natives fighting with ranchers out west even into the 1920s. In some place far more remote and secluded, such things could be gotten away with for even longer.
The creepiest thing about this story is that we don't have a closure... We have no idea what actually happened or happening at that land right now...
What's worse is that this happened entire centuries ago. All the weirdest incidents like this happened too long ago for it to be possible for there to be closure now. Whether it was a murder group, past native tribe, or species, they've long died out by now. Similar to the Siera sounds incident, whatever made those sounds is either dead or long gone from that area.
@@ndt7379 i would not bet on it, especially if it's a tribe that is unknown, wich is very possible and since most pre industrial tribes were VERY territorial and quite brutal in their ways of punishment even against other native tribes, their numbers could still be in the thousands as we have no reference, god knows there is enough places to hide.
I would not want to test it, maybe with a batallion of marines, thermal sights, air cover and so on XD
@@DerDrecksack87 There aren't many tribes that number in the thousands within easily accessible areas for civilized humans to come across. If it were thousands, we'd have come across them by now in those mountains. There's a enough places for about a hundred of them to hide within the mountains, but a thousand is a pretty big group to not be visible after a while. Then again, they did start blocking off the ability to access those parts about 40+ years ago, so nobody really has returned there... You have a point.
@@ndt7379 @NDT u can never know, my buddy likes cave diving, had me watch dozens of videos about it so i get lured in to making the certification, but its not gonna happen, i feel too unconfortable in tight underwater places.
However, i did learn a lot about caves and man they can stretch for thousands of miles, some wet caves are even interconnected, ending in the ocean through intricate tunnel systems. If those caves are really old and the surrounding water goes back during the millennia, they become dry caves, so u can imagine that if they live in these caves (cooking, sleeping, socialising) and they only go out to hunt, it would be exceptionally hard to find traces, especially if they adapted to low light conditions, going out at dawn like most of these stories suggest, the channel What lurkes below touches on that and how indigineous tribes think they are ancestors that did not migrate thousands of years ago.
We do have tribes in the amazon forrest that know that there are other people and technology outside of their domain but choose to remain isolated and react extremely violent when approached, especially because they tried several times to communicate that they don't want anybody on their turf yet people kept coming until they started killing intruders, now they are protected by the govt. and their area is off limits.
Man this gives me Bone Tomahawk vibes XD
Crooked cops working with tribal people to kill and get that gold for both parties smh.
When I first saw that very last picture of the valley in the sunlight and the river glistening all I could think was "Some people don't even know that that beauty is hiding a sinister secret." because at the end of the day you do have to admit that the Nahani Valley does look beautiful. I believe that these creatures are protecting something and whether that be an ancient burial ground or the valley as a whole I don't think anyone will ever truly know but as I stated I believe that they are protecting something and they are going through great lengths to do so.
The narrative being spun is a wendigo spirit wendigos apparently have the ability to bring up blizzards at a moments notice they aren’t technically a being more a spirit which explains why annie was crawling around naked and why the guy froze to death looking like nothing was wrong because they were both possessed wendigos are known to fear fire phil possibly burned his house to get rid of the wendigo but died in the process the other 2 most likely tried the same thing but when they tried to run off they got run down wendigos also mimic voices and animals and are described as emaciated white figures they are also extremely territorial
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From the way that Mr. Ballen had said, I can come up with 2 conclusions. Either:
A. The headless valley is truly haunted by demons, tempting people with vasts amount of gold and then get killed by demonic forces.
B. The valley was occupied by a Native Tribe who was living in the caves & killed anyone who trespassed
That one with the naked woman can either be her succumbing to the evil of the valley or she truly went crazy & was kidnapped by the native tribe, but what don't make sense is how she turned so quickly if that was the case
My guess is the native tribe kept killing to stop others from stealing their gold. It's far more likely their gave the woman some hallucinating stuff and she went berserk from it. The frozing in place is weird but i suspect the tribe had to do something with it too.
@Lubbock Babes Fan sounds like aliens. Especially with how the natives were talking about the "white figures". Cause yeah it could've been a cannibal tribe with white clay on them BUT I doubt they had the technological advancements to literally freeze someone to death in an INSTANT and if these aliens did have some sort of Lazer weapon, that could theoretically cause fires which is how their camps were burnt down. Maybe aliens were killing the humans and taking their heads to research the human brain and also taking the gold cause you can do a lot of shit with gold and it just so happens that gold is one of the most conductive. You can do a lot of technological shit with gold. That might be why the police really weren't trying to do a full investigation cause they've been trying to cover up aliens for a while, it's only recently that they admitted to aliens being here. It has to be aliens or some kind of paranormal entity that's preventing people from taking from the land. I refuse to believe it was any human that did it, specifically because of the time that it was in NO HUMAN could freeze somebody to death instantly, setting fires, yeah a human can do that. But freezing someone to death INSTANTLY in the early 1900s? No way did a human do that.
Or the police was killing them 😅😅 its like no one thinks.
I almost wonder if the lady was having a major manic episode. Back then that mental health stuff wasn’t really even acknowledged and it’s possible she just snapped and had a major mental episode causing her to wander off and do that.
What i want to know is why there are sections of South Nahani Valley blurred out on google? Specifically the 2nd canyon.
This is Legit. There's a H.U.G.E. Swath of territory that goes from high definition to minecraft block, close up. Aka, pixel blur......the **** are they hiding?!
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sounds like "wendigos"
That is exactly what i thought.
Or more like a witch or Blair witch.
There’s gotta be a tribe residing there, so large and so strong, who have no problems taking people out brutally.
That doesn't sound naturally occurring. Bodies don't be naturally burnt without heads. Also, remember the body that appeared to be reaching towards the gun? How you naturally die like that? The most logical theories are that either Robert unalived them, or they were attacked. Either way at the very least those two brothers were 100% attacked.
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I think that Annie the guy (forgot his name lol) said he saw was not her but one of the white figures skinned her face off from her head (since they decapitate visitors) and wore it on its own. Because remember, he said her face looked strange as if she was possessed but I think it just wasn't her. I know this theory creepy but this whole damn story is thou!!!! 😭😭😭😭 Idk man, idk. 😂😂
Or another sinister theory would be
As some sort of disturbing ritual they deafened her, rendered her blind & mute(i.e removed all her senses)
After which they set her free.
The guy did saw Annie but she had no way of knowing he was there or even scream for help.
She could only try to get away from whatever did her harm.
And sadly without realizing lost her one chance of receiving help🥶
Or who knows the things might have been following her and by just exiting the situation the guy saved himself.
So the two gold prospectors that found the frozen man did actually make it out with gold?
Also, the search parties always seem to make it out okay; so go in with a couple dozen people is what I say 🤷🏻♂️
We NEED that level of societal doubt and skepticism NOW like they had in the early 1900s when the government or law said something was so
It's almost like there's some people living way up in those caves in the cliffside that kill anyone that comes around.
NOT "people"....but something you would be happier NOT knowing exists.
In these prospectors defense, this was back in the early 90's. Like you said at the start, it was an entirely different climate at the time. Someone deciding to live out in the woods or in the mountains would not be a rare occurrence, given that that this kind of thing was normal at the time. They wouldn't be sacrificing all that technology people today are to make that choice. There was no internet and the way news traveled was very different. The second guy going after 8 years is understandable, like you both said. The third person and 4th ended up happening many years later. For all we know, they must have only heard of the killings like they were rumors. Imagine being someone from out of town thinking you could go strike hold and then people start telling you something that sounds like a goofy ghost story about the mountains nearby. Lot's of people wouldn't believe it. There's no internet or anything like that to truly confirm these things happened. One of the last killings mentioned in the video happened almost 30 or so years after the first one's, so who knows if the news about these occurrences even got to the that guy who decided to go in.
As for the cop thing. It does sound like they either DIDN'T want to do their jobs, were too scared to go lurking what was essentially a killing grounds by themselves to investigate further, or may have had some knowledge of what was going on.
There's so many guesses I can make out of what occurs. Maybe there was another group of people who originally found out this place was rife with gold and decided they didn't want people continuing to flock there, so killed and burned the evidence of the first brothers. After a while, maybe it just got out of hand and they eased into working their killings with the rumors, making sure they'd keep killing people the same way, until they eventually stopped doing it that way. The case of the woman running is quite interesting. She was the first (recorded) woman to go missing after the brothers were killed. What if the killers just decided a woman.. was better off alive to be sexually assaulted by them? That would explain her being naked and running on her feet that night. Maybe she had escaped for a bit and was just scrambling awkwardly in terror up the mountain that way. It also could have just been attributed to an early generation of the tribe not wanting people on their grounds and murdering intruders for it. The reason why those specific kind of killings stopped could be because the later generation simply didn't want to just murder people that way and preferred to simply scare them away, hence the last one's coming to warn people.
Then again, this was nearly 10 centuries ago. Like the Siera woods sounds, this could be another (presumably) case of an unknown species or non-native group of humanoids that lived in the woods at the time. They came out at the night similarly to the Siera thing, so who knows if they're the same. It doesn't have to be some monster mumbo jumbo stuff like that either. Maybe it was just a third species out there that by now is likely long extinct. Something you two may not know is that there were two kinds of humanoid species in ancient times, the Neanderthals and Homosapiens. We evolved from the Homosapiens, while the Neanderthals went extinct. The Homosapiens were more evolved kinds of cavemen, while the Neanderthals were straight up ferals much stronger than us. We ended up outlasting them because we evolved our way of hunting. The Neanderthals relied completely on their superiorly build bodies (they were larger, stronger, hairier, etc.) to hunt but ultimately died from not adapting. It's presumed they had long died out before 40k years ago, but what if some of them did survive? That could explain weird cases like the Siera sounds. They could all be long extinct NOW, but who's to say a very small portion of them did not survive until the early 1900s? It would explain a lot of weird incidents. Remember, there's a shit ton of tribes living in the edges of the rain forest. The rain forest is barely explored by us because it's too dangerous. We're constantly finding new species from it every day. We know there's thousands of other species of animals undiscovered within it. Who's to say the rest of the world didn't have situations like that until many of them truly did go extinct before the 2000s? The rain forest could very well have a third humanoid race living in the deepest parts of it. It could even have smaller, almost dinosaur-like creatures that are able to survive within those areas as well. There's so much of the earth we still have no explored. Regardless of all that, I still feel like the poor woman who was seen ended up just getting kidnapped by whatever group or race was living in those woods to be kept as a sex slave. She was missing for like 6 months before she was seen, so who knows what kind of abuse, forms of drugging, or handling could have caused her to run like that. For all we know, maybe her treatment caused her to devolve or lose her mind.
Sorry for the long post! I'm typing on my phone, so there's gonna be lots of typos.
I was waiting for the part where they would find out that the heads were in the caves watching people as they come down the river!!!!
What about the flash frozen man? People can't flash freeze someone, my thing is aliens with a fort hidden in the mountains/underwater keeping a base private. The white figures may be like guard dogs to deter people, imagine them crawling out of the caves of the valley.
Wendigos buddy it has all the signs white tall figures native tribes being aware of them and the burned cabins are because they’re territorial wendigos are a spirit that possesses people which explains the naked lady and the frozen death and they fear fire
I believe Kidd was right about the creatures attacking people who are looking for gold. The gold there feels like a trap. What if the creatures placed gold in those areas as a trap to lure people in, capture them, and then kill them? It seems odd that people have been killed when all were looking for gold.. and if some weren’t, who would “camp” there after hearing stories of people being decapitated or gone missing? They’re very brave because I couldn’t, shouldn’t, and wouldn’t.
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The police knew something
That's the only reason police declare things "accidents" that are clearly not accidents and refuse to investigate any further. They either know what's going on and want to keep it from the public, or they're directly involved with what's going on.
@@ville666sora Or they don't know how to explain it and just say something to appease the public.
More of these reactions and commentary. I really enjoyed this react and you guy’s commentary.
They need to go with some cameras now lol
annie was struck by a smooth criminal
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Honestly if it were up to me and if I was given a blank check to handle it, it can be handled by either;
Sending a huge platoon to go into the place and make a fortress to prevent whatever is attacking them being burned down to comb the area
or
Just drop a bomb strong enough to obliterate these canyons (I know, disrespect to nature in it's most rawest form) so that way whatever is hiding will be flushed out of those caves
Either way, if the Police are only saying "they starved and their heads were taken away" as their only excuse, then get better people or just send in high tech drones to survey and position around the area
This happened in the early 1990s and ended around the 1940s. There were no drones or mobile phones around at the time to do this do your last suggestions. None of the police force remaining now is the same as those who were alive back then, so I doubt they'd make the same excuse. The 80s and early 90s had a lot of people migrating into America intentionally or unintentionally. There's a large chance it could have been a migrated group that ended up having a second or third generation that had no understanding of outside civilization just killing who they believed were intruders too. Whatever the case, they'd eventually dwindle in numbers and die out completely. I doubt anything related to those killings is alive by the early 2000s, whether it be just murders, a native group, or creatures.
@@ndt7379 ok, first of all...
1. it's early 1890's, you're a century ahead there
2. I didn't gave a specific date as I was meaning today, just anything to let us have more security around
3. A lot of people believe they died out, but we still got Skinwalker Ranch very much active so how about that logic to help too?
@@snakejesus Skinwalker Ranch is based around supernatural stuff, which is completely bogus. It's stuff about UFO's and creatures with glowing red eyes that are immune to bullets.
@@ndt7379 guess we should try thermal nuclear explosion
I kinda want to go there.
@@demonticklerbring a whole army with you then yea
I wouldn’t go out there for any amount of $. Only way I can see that being safe is with a legitimate military unit goes & always has ppl awake on security. Sleeping in shifts, perimeter security covering the group
Plot twist: the police were involved with the deaths, but kept their involvement secret by claiming the deaths were accidents
Sounds like the movie "The Hills Have Eyes" 💡
These people are the poster children for: "Pfft! That won't happen to ME!"
Smh 🤦🏼♀️
Am I the only one who's looked at this area on maps and Google. I understand these events were long ago and will most likely remain a mystery. But so far I've found a spot that I can drive to from where I'm at in Florida that puts me up just east of Nahanni National Reserve. Also I've matched up the river systems to what was shown in the video. I simply would love to just go up to the rough general area they did and try to pan for one little nugget of gold. There's so much unbelievably vast amounts of space up there you really could hide a entire civilization up there in their own little world.
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I’d say it’s a violent tribe if not for the man being frozen in place. The naked women I could believe wasn’t actually the missing woman, but a tribeswoman, considering she was apparently hundreds of yards away. If it was the missing woman, that’s just really unsettling. But the frozen man is just unexplainable if that’s true. The only realistic explanation is that he chose to stay in that position as he froze, which honestly makes less sense to me than the notion of it being some supernatural threat.
Come on guys we have to go get that gold...
The reason the keep the bodies charred is probably so people have hope wander in there to look for them and the cycle repeats
The Native Americans purposely tried to avoid that area. There were stories of a violent tribe back in the day, but I think they're extinct. There are some supernatural beliefs in that area, regarding versatile animals...
Girl the way the police was USELESS for this investigation-
I think the native tribe was taking their heads and using them for some sort of sacrifice, if was them all along, they never wanted them there, that's my theory.
It's almost like the gold in the valley is cursed
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Im Still Confused On How That Guy Just... Froze To Death...Weird
I have a feeling Robert is a serial killer
this sounds just like the movie Prey that just came out that is a prequal to Predator
Facts
Wasn’t there a book written based on this legend? The curse of blue valley or something?? Or am I remembering wrong?
cops didnt wanna be there lmao
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Gold travels down mountains through the rivers more north you go more mountains and more rivers and lakes especially in NWT ive doing some studying cause where I plan to do some gold prospecting myself although I wont be going to Nahanni I plan on being just a little bit east of the valley maybe like 3miles of the Nahanni park border, but I'm bringing guns and a shit ton of dynamite just to be safe. All my friends and people I've asked are to chicken shit to come so ill be going in deep solo. Nothing ventured nothing gained and if I lose my head well at least I dont have to deal with the lunacy of todays society and there's a good potential I can come out filthy rich so win-win
god the Canadian police were no help what so ever!
I was hoping I would see this one. (Guess I should have checked sooner).
Try BedTime Stories And The ParaNormal Scholar who both did this story with more details and other great stories.
I bet the gold is cursed
My thoughts exactly, as soon as they take the gold from the ground they’ve signed their death warrant
Imo it’s the natives.
Animals go for the soft tissue first so your but is the first to go
Robert actually killed them and ran away with gold or that valley is truly haunted ✌️
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Maybe you will tribes people themselves trying to get people away
Honestly I don't blame the police if you are going to go somewhere you know is dangerous and multiple murder's plus decapitations have occurred hey your problem 🤷♂️
don't be a police then 😑 because as a police you must do your job weather the person was being stupid or not although the people in this story where being stupid as a police to say oh thats there problem to me thats wrong because I feel like to be honest nobody ever thinks it will happen to them thats like stealing from a shop many people have gotten in big trouble for stealing but does that ever stop other people from stealing no it doesn't and why because they don't think that they will get Catch stealing and then some people just don't care but most people never thing things will happen to them until they are in that position but thats not all when they get Catch the police will come and lock them up but when its time to investigate they don't want to do there job and I'm not mad I'm just saying thats no excuse to not do there job people do stupid things all the time that doesn't mean anything that's all I'm saying have a blessed day 😊😊😊
People think they are invincible
Nobody needs to know why they died. Just stay the fuck out. People clearly are not welcome there. They don't need to tell me who, or why. The headless bodies should be all the info anybody needs as to why they shouldn't go there. It's a darwin award going in at this point.
people have risked more for less
My whole thing is...
A bear propped the rifle up on a tree with the man's arm reaching out for it. Then, 8 years later, a fire breathing dragon burned the camp site to the ground and decapitated the man. Is that what those police thought? Because that's the only explanation I can think of for these attacks. Any other thoughts about this?
no one suspected the native tribes there?
Probably soo. If you think about it unlike these two, the natives were protecting their land from outsiders. And wether you believe it or not the Natives might have used some kind of sorcery.
@@dontmindme2196 How do we explain the flash freeze then?
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Fr that one has to be a myth or something. If that’s true, it can’t just be a tribe.