RTX 4060 vs A 13 YEAR OLD PC | What can go wrong?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hi Folks
I treated myself to an RTX 4060 so the only first natural thing to do was slap it in a 13 year old DELL I had lying around!
But in all seriousness this card has some awesome power efficiency and brings features like DLSS frame generation to the table! But will this make a difference to your tired old system?
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Time Stamps
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - The DELL
02:00 - RTX4060
03:47 - Benchmark GTA5
05:54 - Benchmark CyberPunk
07:55 - Benchmarks i7 860
08:40 - DLSS Frame Gen
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You comment is hilarious, we need this type of content! I'm tired of the super serious and technical FPS this and MHZ that most channels blab too much about, this is awesome bro!
Haha cheers really appreciate the comment and we try not to take ourselves to seriously here 😎
Sorry if my english isn't very accurate, I think I should I've said Your commentary is hilarious, but anyways, love it man, cheers from Mexico!@@andystech101
Damn! Those are some really impressive results from such old CPUs IMO... even I've never thought to touch one because I figured they were too old. It's always going to be a fun video when sketchy PCIE power adapters get pulled out haha. My personal cheap low power draw GPU of choice is the RX 6600, mostly because I got mine for $160 and that was a hell of a deal.
Definitely the RX6600 is my personal favourite at the moment for used price to performance. Shamefully I brought one at launch for £400 🤦🏽
Yeah she did ok the little Dell and I’m really surprised that PSU lasted the whole video haha even with the bottleneck situation going on. Just goes to show the futures bright for even the lowest of the low when these cards come down in price 🤩
Mine 100% goes to the 1050TI which lived on my board's PCI-E power alone.. 75W TDP and it ran GTA 5 (albeit with a 1st gen ryzen 1500x)! However she grew old and slow and got replaced by now as i bought a replacement last month (and also got gifted a ryzen 5500, which is not exactly the CPU i wanted to buy for paring my new gfx card but as a gift is perfectly fine for sure)
I love what you've done in this video mate! It would have been the last thing I would have thought of when it comes to the 4060. I just wish they were a bit cheaper
Thanks mate and yes definitely! £269/£249 would have been really nice 🤩
Great video, this will be in alit of budget PCs once the price comes down due to the low power draw.
Will be interesting to watch over the next couple of years when it gets to RX6600 pricing.
Well that was a really surprising result. I was not expecting that to work well.
Haha no nor was I at the start! Could have tested a few more games but I think I proved my point, hopefully, maybe 😅
It's quite fun doing this for the sake of enjoying some nice miss matched components.
I use to do it with my w3565 (x58, 4c/8th @4+ghz) and my i5 2400 and a rotation of RTX 2060, RX5700, GTX 1660S , GTX 1070 depending of what I had our what I was testing.
It is and I think it’s what I enjoy the most just slapping it in there and see what happens 😎
I have a lot of faith in old CPUs, being a Xeon guy, but this exceeded anything I expected from a 1st Gen i7...
Cool video, Andy, as always.
Thanks for the comment really appreciate it. Yes it surprised me as well and it’s party trick, which we couldn’t do with the Dell is 1st is overclockable so we could have pushed the i7 to 3.5/3.6GHz all core with a decent mobo! Might be interesting to see?
Um, yes. It's always remarkable to me when an aging CPU, usually either a Core i5/i7 or a Xeon, manages to stay relevant. To a degree AMDs of this particular era... can be used, I guess? I am passing on to one of my son's friends an FX 8350 system with a 980ti... It's solid, but it eats power... And newer games don't love the ethereal 8 cores... Pre-Ryzen AMD is not modern AMD cpus.
I'm curious to see how old flagship CPUs compare to bargain basement modern ones too... Like the Pentium G7400 vs. i5 4790... I'm a bit weird like that.
(I've actually been considering doing a 'last Pentium' pseudo-sleeper in a 2005 era Antec case... I got a cheap Q670 mobo from Asus' pro line... It would look like 2005, but it's hard to justify the G7400 when the i3 13100 is like 20 bucks more...)
Thanks!
You didn't have to do a shout out. Just trying to dink and dunk a few bucks here and there to help you buy stuff to test on the channel.
This one was particularly interesting. It's the absolute best use case for the 4060 because of the performance per watt. Really shows frame generation in the best light too. Always enjoy seeing hated hardware getting a little love. Having a XFX RX 6400, I know firsthand even the worst stuff, is actually the best, if you have the proper use case for it.
No your more than welcome and thank you for the support it really mean a lot!
I’m not such a hater on the 4060 and there’s never a bad gpu just a bad use case and I think reviewer forget this! This will bring new life to older systems that will otherwise be sidelined or forgotten 😎
I recently upgraded my Lenovo M83 tower with a Xeon E3-1265L v3 an RTX 2060-Super and used an adapter in order to make it work with a standard 650W PSU. I had to rip off the lower HDD cage for the GPU to fit, but now it works wonders. My main PC (an Asus B85) got a better treatment, a Xeon E3-1285L v3, 32gb of RAM and an RTX 4060. Thankfully, a motherboard+CPU combo can work well through multiple generations of GPUs.
Yes still a massive fan of the v3 Xeons 💪🏼
If you ever want to try this again in an old HP small form factor PC there are 8 pin 500W PSUs that fit inside sff cases. Im using the HP elitedesk 800 G3 sff with a L77487-003 PSU, it has 8 pins for the (hopefully) upcoming low profile rtx 4060.
Yes I’m looking forward to that and thanks for the heads up I’ll keep my eye out for one of those HPs
Gonna try it with a TWR edition with a 250 plat psu 😅 just ordered a 4060
The RTX 4060 really does have amazing power efficiency, surprised how well that old Dell did. I think if the GPU ever hit 100% utilization then you might of had an issue with that PSU. Would be interesting how well the RTX 4060 would do on a Intel 3rd or 4th Gen CPU.
I think the PSU would have blown up instantly at 100% usage 🤣
Oh no no no Cyberpunk.
I first played it on i5-3570 and it was not a good time. Scripts kept breaking and the game kept getting slower so I had to restart it every 4 hours tops. Tuning all settings down which could affect the CPU even a little helped a fair bit. Common other symptoms were object copies stuck in mid air and driving companions driving straight over pedestrians a lot, Panam also walked on air for a while.
I'm surprised it scales down gracefully now, if it indeed does.
Yes my first experience with Cyberpunk was on an i3 9100f and GTX1650! That was painful at 30fps 1080p haha
Glad they’ve improved things slightly but the next generation of games I think have gotten worse.
What OS were you running on that PC, if you don't mind my asking? Thanks.
Windows 10 pro with the latest update.
Not really surprised it work because they'll release a low profile version kf this card, its going to be the new 1650 of this generation when the price lower
Will be interesting to see if they cut anything down with it like the 1060 3GB!
The power was never going to be an issue because the GPU was never going to pull it's rated TBP due to the massive bottleneck the CPU is. Even then, the 4060 can pull up to around 130 watts, and that was never really going to be an issue for that PSU... outside of it's age. But running a synthetic where the GPU could be fully loaded could have been a problem. The biggest issue probably would have been the single SATA adapter. Even with the massive bottleneck, you were likely overloading the single SATA connection. Though I am surprised that the first Gen i5 was keeping the 4060 fed as much as it is.
No agreed it was never going to be fully utilised and really any system, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th gen oem system wouldn’t be also. Hence the test will it work with these older system as they stand plus my budget doesn’t allow me to blow up new 40 series gpu’s 🤣
Hey nice video man! Could you tell me what you think about this Xeon build? HP Z440 Workstation - Intel Xeon E5-1650v4- 32g ram- 1tb SSD- RTX 4070.
I’d say that’s a nice system mate 🤩 Not conventional but who cares! You’ve got some good upgrade options CPUs wise like the 1660 v4 1680 v4 and all the goodies of the 4000 series RTX 💪🏼
@@andystech101 Thanks for the reply i've already orderd the Xeon E5-1650v4 with rtx 4070. Do you think they will bottleneck?
I lovw this please add rust for testing i know a lot off people want to play rust but no one creator using rust for testing
Ok I’ll try and add it in for you, you have a point as it can be fairly taxing on weaker hardware
try it with 4th gen i7 please
Already in my mind 🤩 really interested to see that result.
@@andystech101nah try it with intel core 2 duo e7400
For me this GPU has only one weakness, the VRAM amount. If it had at least 10GB, it would have been awesome. The low power consumption is a very important aspect of it and the performance is good if you don't run out of VRAM.
Disclaimer, I don't have a desktop PC any more.
It should have had 12GB like the 3060! Id rather it pulled more power then had less vram but I’m sure someone earn’t there pay check with that bright idea 🤩
I just ordered a prebuilt refurbished dell optiplex 7070 I7-8700 65w tdp 16g ddr4 ram 1tb ssd 500gb hd and an RTX 4060 (low profile, i think) all though sadly i think the psu might come with the stock 260w psu do you think I will have any PSU related issues with this build?? Thanks for the help in advance also it is it an issue i have a gtx 1650 low profile with new fans i replaced that i could swap out which is 75 tdp 4g card it would be a big down grade but i dont wanna blow up this pc i ordered plz help❤
No you’ll be fine. Just undervolt the 4060 and maybe cap the frame rate to 60/75/120 depending on what you’re playing. There good quality units Dell use, most are Gold rated
Getting inspired by you I am going to do something similar , Slapping a new rx 580 on my 250w PSU with i5 2400. Hope it doesn't blast 😢😢
Awesome 😎 personally I’d go team great and go for a GTX1060 6GB then undervolt it! The RX580 might be a step too far as it pulls 150+w of power.
@@andystech101 thanks for the advice andy
@@HarshRatanVerma Depending what system you have look out for a Xeon e3 1230/1245 it’s the same as an i7 but cost about £10.
@@andystech101 Will it work with LGA 1155
Yes it should work fine.
How do you think an i7-9700 would run a 4060?
I have an older system on a proprietary motherboard frkm an old HP pre built. Was thinking of ripping all that out to put on a new mobo and new case. Any issues with the 4060 and your rig not have pcie4? I have questions lol
The i7 9700 is still a very capable chip and will pair fine with the 4060. Tbh with the i7 I used it would have made a difference as the GPU was barely stretching its legs
@@andystech101 any issues with it not being PCIe 4 slot?
dont worry bro, i got i7 6700 with rtx 4060 TI 16 GB, that work well
What do you think an i7-13 Gen, 16G, will do?
Also, could you please share a link to that cable?
An i7 13th gen is one of the best cpu on the market currently and will pair with 4070Ti/4080 no problem at all.
Allsom
Plz more
Oh yeah
Cheers for the comment 🙏🏼
Would love to see or z600 can run this with 6 to 8 pin adapter.
Yeah you’ll be fine with that! Z600 has a decent PSU just only 6pin 😎
@@andystech101 8 pin and 6 ping basically same just one has 2 ground pin right?
So 450w enough for this gpu?
Any half decent 80+ PSU will be enough. It pulls around 110w max so you’ll be fine with a 450w
cool
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Andy i wonder if i put this card to an intel i7 4790k how well will works...
I would say pretty well for a budget rig with DLSS frame gen as well.
@@andystech101 thank you
Bruh the i5 4570 looks like a gaming gpu compared to this
Got to love an i5 4570 💪🏼
I just ordered a 4060 to replace my gtx980 paired with the i7 4790. should give my 10 year old system some new legs
Definitely! I think DLSS 3 frame gen will give these older systems and extra few years life. The 4790 still just about pulls its weight.
What’s wild is how it gets beat by its younger brother the 3060
Haha! Yes it’s not been the greatest release for raw performance but I’ve just learnt to roll with it in these crazy times 🤩
It doesnt get beaten by 3060 just in some games but 90% of the time the 4060 beat 3060 and in my country the 4060 is 50 dollar more expensive so for me i think 4060 is a ok solution
The 3060 is definitely the better buy new but the 4060 is a good overclocker 😎
@@Tyyhahah12737no card should be getting beaten by its last generation counterpart tho, no matter the scenario. The low end of the 40 series is a mess that shouldn’t have even been produced.
ooof RTX 4060 , it would look a lot better if you emulsioned the case 'white' or 'magnolia'
Haha definitely! I mean it’s the look everyone’s after 😎
New card on old PCI
I wouldn’t have it any other way 💪🏼
You have just proven that you can bring a computer that's over 10 years old back to life with these upgrades. I really think that these older systems still have a lot of potential these days. My main PC is a Fujitsu Esprimo P420 with a 4th gen i5, and it still runs perfectly well.
What makes me angry of course is the fact Microsoft won't allow these computers to run Windows 11 because of their age.
Like they always say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Nice to here from you buddy and yes I always love your positivity around your Fujitsu! It makes me remember that not all that glitters is gold 😎
this is a 60.3% bottleneck xd
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