Well done bro, fantastic video. I've never thought to under-volt a GPU to bring it into the reachability of the stock PSU. If it were me, I just would have immediately gone out and bought another PSU. So I learnt something today from this build, I didn't know you could do this! I also believe it's always good to use what's in the PC already like you have done. Part of my vision for my own life and channel is around finding usable purposes for old components because it's always the best thing for the environment (and the wallet) to use what you already have. I'm so glad to see other people on TH-cam restoring older machines like this because honestly there are so many out there being tossed out by offices and workplaces. With just a GPU and a new SSD they can be turned into impressive little machines (as your benchmarks show). It's so much better for the planet that they end up in new hands and are upgraded than just recycled after one owner. I know I've watched a good build video when I find myself on Marketplace afterwards looking for the same dell to try it lol! I'm not sure if you've heard of my channel but I used to do similar videos with Dells a while ago, I'd like to get back into it but you know how juggling adult life is with time. Thanks for the video and reach out if we at Green Ham can do anything to help you out.
Hi thanks for the comment and really glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the branch of friendship, awesome to know the big guns take a look at us small fellows from time to time. I did enjoy your last video also, my Dell managed to kick the smoking habit a while back thankfully 🤩 Yes its definitely an interesting concept! Not enough power? Well just undervolt the balls off it! I’ve always been a bit disappointed with the old just slap a 1050ti or 1650 in an old dell and these newer models are even more proprietary than the older 4th gen ones which doesn’t help. Luckily there was just enough room, just 😅 It is a shame how much stuff gets wasted and I guess these come to the end of there company support from Dell and are just replaced and binned on mass. Little love and a few choice upgrades and she’s ready to serve again. No matter what these OEMs do we’ll always find a way 🙏🏼
I’ve build and tested the exact system and specs. MAKE SURE to get dual data to 8 pin!!! Ive painted it white and added a see thru side panel. I’ve also upgraded the cooler to a tower cooler and drop the temps by 30 degrees lol. You don’t need to under-volt the gpu for the 260w psu . The PSU is rated for **continuous** output not peak. And it pulls about 240-255 from the wall under full load.
Quite a brave move that sata to 8pin adapter but the donwclock and undervolt really helped with the power consumption. I built myself a Dell Inspiron 3881 with an i5 10400f, 16gb RAM, 500gb m.2 SSD and a GTX 1660 SUPER for about 255€. Mine had a 360W PSU which was much safer even though I had to buy a 6pin to 8pin adapter.
Yeah it took some thought before I went ahead! Didn’t mind frying the Dell PSU but the 1660super was another matter! Seemed to work fine if I’m honest, the PSU certainly wasn’t groaning under the strain but I’m not sure long term if it would take it’s told 😅
Interesting that the GTX 1660 Super actually runs on that PSU, was thinking that would be too much power for it but I guess as you undervolted it that helps out a bit. Some impressive results for such a cheap gaming PC.
Hi buddy, yes I guess we where on the limit but I do love an undervolt and with a slight drop to the core as well it seemed ok. Guess we lost 10% on the GPU but it didn't effect it too bad.
I built a similar system yesterday Its in a acer prebuilt And it got a i5 8400 Gtx 1660 8gbs of ddr4 And it runs 240 fps on fortnite although its on performance mode 90 percent of pc players no matter how good the pc play with performance on mode on so thats how i bench mark it
Awesome build! Yeah it’s a difficult one as I’ll have to sell the PC afterwards and most people will bring it back if it can’t play Fortnite properly and mentioning performance mode gives people the willys 😭
Who are you buttering up to get these awesome prices? The 1660S is a brilliant card, i lost mine after being attacked and replaced it at first with a straight from China RX580 8GB for fifty smackers and then back to a 1660 from Cex for 100 odd. Keep up the good work and great choice on parts.
Haha I’m just good at my job! Just have a knack for finding deals, had a 1080 for £80 the other day and just picked up a 2060 for £100! I’m a big fan of those RX580 2048s £50 delivered for a new card whats not to love 🤩
Im looking to buy this pc and planning to slap a gtx 1660 super as well. Just a bit curious about how your pc been doing right now, do you still using it or you already sold or gave it away?
Hi Generally I use the system for a week while I’m doing the video, work, gaming, productivity etc and I had no problems. I sold the system on pretty quickly but I’ve had nothing back from the customer so I assume it’s all working fine. They’re usually quite reliable these little Dells.
Having 6 core CPUs without HT are still terrible. This is partially down to Windows. Using a ReviOS install would alleviate some of those problems. Check out the HP ProDesk 280 G1, 400 G1/G2 or 490 G1 MT. Base systems are often 30 pounds or less, they will take any PSU you throw at it without an adapter and the entire Xeon E3 v3 series works in them, even the 1231 v3 Haswell Refresh CPUs. So getting a cheap i7 substitute, throwing in a GPU and PSU as well as a 2x8 DDR3 kit gets you a really, really solid gaming PC to flip - especially with how far the 580 has come down in price. Going AMD also helps you avoid the DX12 driver overhead, which normally crushes these weaker CPUs. You'll see that's an even cheaper way to build a full system from OEM parts that actually performs better than the 8th gen i5 in a lot of scenarios, simply because having 8 threads (and an AMD GPU) gives you the CPU headroom you need.
Hi thanks for the comment and yes been down that route before on the channel. The V3 XEONs are a great option and yes the 8threads are looking the better option even if it’s 6th/7th gen. Thats said you can pickup an i7 8700 for £70 here in the UK at the moment in CEX and selling the 8500 for £30/£40 would probably make the most sense. At least you’ve M.2 support then and DDR4 ram. Been noticing DDR3s performance in the 1% lows recently and it’s only going to get worse as time goes on 🙏🏼
I have a similar model. Is there any way to use a higher wattage power supply on this PC? I've never seen a motherboard that didn't use the standard 24 pin connector until I bought this one, and I'm also worried about having to replace it if it fails.
@@andystech101 Thanks. I tried fitting one of my extra PSUs into it today, and it turns out it doesn't actually fit without case modification, and the opening on the back of the case is so small that it blocks half of the airflow. Ugh, why did you have to do this, Dell?
@Alucard782 Just be careful as it’s a PCIe x4 card so you’ll be loosing 10/15% performance but still a good little GPU! Gets a bad press but I don’t mind it.
The PSU might be an issue as the Radeon cards use a lot more power.. There are options though for better PSUs and if you do go with the 5500ZT undervolt the hell out of it.
I did exactly this build, but I went with an Optiplex 7020 with an i7 instead (also a non super 1660 because I got scammed on Facebook 😭😭) Regardless, the build performs amazing, and the 290w power supply gives me a lot of confidence in the PC. From what I've heard, the 4th gen i7 is roughly equivalent to an 8th gen i5, is that about right? Either way, super happy with the performance, and undervolted it just for the hell of it lol
Yes the i7 4790/i7 6700 performs roughly the same but it’s a tricky comparison! Just depends in games really, personally I’d go for a 4core 8thread over 6core as it will be a little smoother. Glad your enjoying the build and dw we’ve all been Facebook scammed 😎
How are the thermals on this system? I was planning on an almost identical build, same GPU and everything, but the GPU being so close to the PSU seems like it'd make for a bad case of hot temperatures.
The 970 will use too much power unfortunately! 10 series and above have the undervolt feature but 900 series don’t. An option would be to find a HP MT some of those come with a 500w Gold PSU which will work fine. Really you need to be pulling 100w or less to be safe.
Recently found your channel and have been binging the playlists. Very entertaining. You should do a collab video with fellow Brit Tubers Random Gaming In HD and Budget Builds Official. Have a set budget and set of games to benchmark. Best results wins. Could have a things like no new tech and only stuff from Ebay/Marketplace etc and Tech of certain age like in between Intel 1st and 6th Gen and or amd equivelant. Same with Graphics cards. Just a cool idea I had and thought i'd share!
@@andystech101Actually i found the optiplex 9020 wich has a i7 4770 and i was thinking if i could pair it with a rx 570 or a gtx 1050 ti and if needed undervolted like how you did. Most games that i like are low to mid end games. Thank you so much for replying to my comment! am really new to this and i felt kinda lost with what to choose
Excuse me, currently i have an 3040mt i5 6500 and rx 460, if i upgrade the gpu for 1650 super with sata to pci it would be fine? psu 240w, should i undervolt the gpu?
@andystech101 i managed to fix it, im just scared of my gpu, i have the same one and im actually scared my sata to 8 pin adapter will melt if i make my gpu consume more than 100 watts, do you think it will be alright? (also sorry if i made mistakes, english is not my first language)
Hey, I just bought the exact same pc, but I'm not used to undervolting graphics cards. I'm going to buy the RX 580 4gb. Do you have any tips, please? Oh, and can the power supply be changed in this system? The case seems pretty small for a mid tower.
Generally just go for 100mv off the card in afterburner, then keep going 25mV at a time till it’s unstable. Well that’s the basics, there’s loads of videos on here about that. You maybe pushing a 580 on that PSU as they can pull 150w power. You’d be better with a 1660super. The PSU can be changed but it’s not a normal size and you’ll need motherboard adapters.
@@andystech101 also i still have some other questions 1. What other cards can run on the 260 watt Psu without undervolting? 2.whats the best graphics card for this build based on this specifications Below 80 watts of power Great performance for a decent price Thats all andy :))
Well done bro, fantastic video.
I've never thought to under-volt a GPU to bring it into the reachability of the stock PSU. If it were me, I just would have immediately gone out and bought another PSU. So I learnt something today from this build, I didn't know you could do this! I also believe it's always good to use what's in the PC already like you have done. Part of my vision for my own life and channel is around finding usable purposes for old components because it's always the best thing for the environment (and the wallet) to use what you already have.
I'm so glad to see other people on TH-cam restoring older machines like this because honestly there are so many out there being tossed out by offices and workplaces. With just a GPU and a new SSD they can be turned into impressive little machines (as your benchmarks show). It's so much better for the planet that they end up in new hands and are upgraded than just recycled after one owner.
I know I've watched a good build video when I find myself on Marketplace afterwards looking for the same dell to try it lol!
I'm not sure if you've heard of my channel but I used to do similar videos with Dells a while ago, I'd like to get back into it but you know how juggling adult life is with time.
Thanks for the video and reach out if we at Green Ham can do anything to help you out.
Hi thanks for the comment and really glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the branch of friendship, awesome to know the big guns take a look at us small fellows from time to time. I did enjoy your last video also, my Dell managed to kick the smoking habit a while back thankfully 🤩
Yes its definitely an interesting concept! Not enough power? Well just undervolt the balls off it! I’ve always been a bit disappointed with the old just slap a 1050ti or 1650 in an old dell and these newer models are even more proprietary than the older 4th gen ones which doesn’t help. Luckily there was just enough room, just 😅
It is a shame how much stuff gets wasted and I guess these come to the end of there company support from Dell and are just replaced and binned on mass. Little love and a few choice upgrades and she’s ready to serve again.
No matter what these OEMs do we’ll always find a way 🙏🏼
Woah, OG ghgtv is here!
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This motherboard isn't compatible with standard power supplies for some reason.
@@pikachuchujelly7628 You can probably fit in an SFX power supply and use a 24-pin to 8 (?) pin motherboard power adapter
I’ve build and tested the exact system and specs. MAKE SURE to get dual data to 8 pin!!! Ive painted it white and added a see thru side panel. I’ve also upgraded the cooler to a tower cooler and drop the temps by 30 degrees lol. You don’t need to under-volt the gpu for the 260w psu . The PSU is rated for **continuous** output not peak. And it pulls about 240-255 from the wall under full load.
Ahh I didn’t realise that thanks for the tip. Loving the mods as well 💪🏼
What's the max on gpu watts I can get on this system
@@boikanyoonneng9170 125W on the gpu if you have the 260W Dell PSU.
@@TocyBlox so what 8gb low profile card would you recommend? 1 that fits the 125w?
Quite a brave move that sata to 8pin adapter but the donwclock and undervolt really helped with the power consumption.
I built myself a Dell Inspiron 3881 with an i5 10400f, 16gb RAM, 500gb m.2 SSD and a GTX 1660 SUPER for about 255€. Mine had a 360W PSU which was much safer even though I had to buy a 6pin to 8pin adapter.
Yeah it took some thought before I went ahead! Didn’t mind frying the Dell PSU but the 1660super was another matter! Seemed to work fine if I’m honest, the PSU certainly wasn’t groaning under the strain but I’m not sure long term if it would take it’s told 😅
Think this is probs one of the best budget builds on the tube right now with those prices well done
Thanks buddy 😎
The Optiplex lives on!
Cheers mate, yes thought it might blow on this one but all is well it seems! Had a moment building the last of us shaders where the cpu hit 95c 😅
Interesting that the GTX 1660 Super actually runs on that PSU, was thinking that would be too much power for it but I guess as you undervolted it that helps out a bit. Some impressive results for such a cheap gaming PC.
Hi buddy, yes I guess we where on the limit but I do love an undervolt and with a slight drop to the core as well it seemed ok. Guess we lost 10% on the GPU but it didn't effect it too bad.
I built a similar system yesterday
Its in a acer prebuilt
And it got a
i5 8400
Gtx 1660
8gbs of ddr4
And it runs 240 fps on fortnite although its on performance mode
90 percent of pc players no matter how good the pc play with performance on mode on so thats how i bench mark it
Awesome build! Yeah it’s a difficult one as I’ll have to sell the PC afterwards and most people will bring it back if it can’t play Fortnite properly and mentioning performance mode gives people the willys 😭
Undervolting a gpu for a system like this is really interesting .
Definitely worked a treat! Would be interesting to see what the most we could get away with was!
Hope that cable won't melt *SATA power connectors can safely provide up to 54 Watts of power.*
It’s all good, the card draws 75w from the PCIe slot and undervolted it only pulls an extra 30w through the adapter 😎
Who are you buttering up to get these awesome prices? The 1660S is a brilliant card, i lost mine after being attacked and replaced it at first with a straight from China RX580 8GB for fifty smackers and then back to a 1660 from Cex for 100 odd.
Keep up the good work and great choice on parts.
Haha I’m just good at my job! Just have a knack for finding deals, had a 1080 for £80 the other day and just picked up a 2060 for £100! I’m a big fan of those RX580 2048s £50 delivered for a new card whats not to love 🤩
@@andystech101 2060 for £100, thats pretty cheap, does it actually work? 🤣
Im looking to buy this pc and planning to slap a gtx 1660 super as well.
Just a bit curious about how your pc been doing right now, do you still using it or you already sold or gave it away?
Hi Generally I use the system for a week while I’m doing the video, work, gaming, productivity etc and I had no problems. I sold the system on pretty quickly but I’ve had nothing back from the customer so I assume it’s all working fine. They’re usually quite reliable these little Dells.
Having 6 core CPUs without HT are still terrible. This is partially down to Windows. Using a ReviOS install would alleviate some of those problems.
Check out the HP ProDesk 280 G1, 400 G1/G2 or 490 G1 MT. Base systems are often 30 pounds or less, they will take any PSU you throw at it without an adapter and the entire Xeon E3 v3 series works in them, even the 1231 v3 Haswell Refresh CPUs. So getting a cheap i7 substitute, throwing in a GPU and PSU as well as a 2x8 DDR3 kit gets you a really, really solid gaming PC to flip - especially with how far the 580 has come down in price. Going AMD also helps you avoid the DX12 driver overhead, which normally crushes these weaker CPUs.
You'll see that's an even cheaper way to build a full system from OEM parts that actually performs better than the 8th gen i5 in a lot of scenarios, simply because having 8 threads (and an AMD GPU) gives you the CPU headroom you need.
Hi thanks for the comment and yes been down that route before on the channel. The V3 XEONs are a great option and yes the 8threads are looking the better option even if it’s 6th/7th gen. Thats said you can pickup an i7 8700 for £70 here in the UK at the moment in CEX and selling the 8500 for £30/£40 would probably make the most sense. At least you’ve M.2 support then and DDR4 ram. Been noticing DDR3s performance in the 1% lows recently and it’s only going to get worse as time goes on 🙏🏼
Looking forward for a dell build with i5 9500 and a 512 gb m.2 ssd for 160 bucks
With the price of M.2s at the moment it’s definitely doable 😎
that psu adapter looks scary to me
Haha yes just a little but it does work fine with the power draw of the card 🤞🏼
I have a similar model. Is there any way to use a higher wattage power supply on this PC? I've never seen a motherboard that didn't use the standard 24 pin connector until I bought this one, and I'm also worried about having to replace it if it fails.
Yes you can buy adapters for a SFX unit i believe, Dell also sell a 350w 80+ gold unit with a 6+2 PCIe! EBay’s your place for that. Hope that helps.
@@andystech101 Thanks. I tried fitting one of my extra PSUs into it today, and it turns out it doesn't actually fit without case modification, and the opening on the back of the case is so small that it blocks half of the airflow. Ugh, why did you have to do this, Dell?
hi,
The 240-watt power supply supports the 1660 Super, or did you have to throttle it somewhere?
I didn't catch the end of the video; could you explain how you throttled your GPU?
That’s ok no worries. I undervolted the gpu to get it down to 90/100w using MSI afterburner.
@@andystech101 I chose security, and I found an RX 6400, which I think is a good choice too, haha.
@Alucard782 Just be careful as it’s a PCIe x4 card so you’ll be loosing 10/15% performance but still a good little GPU! Gets a bad press but I don’t mind it.
are you going to be adding cities skyline 2 to the bemchmarks?
If I’m honest probably never, only have room for 5/6 titles a video as it just takes up too much time 😞
Looking to buy this same Dell Optiplex, but with a RX 5500 XT instead, thoughts?
The PSU might be an issue as the Radeon cards use a lot more power.. There are options though for better PSUs and if you do go with the 5500ZT undervolt the hell out of it.
@@andystech101 How about the RTX 3050 6gb Low Profile?
I did exactly this build, but I went with an Optiplex 7020 with an i7 instead (also a non super 1660 because I got scammed on Facebook 😭😭)
Regardless, the build performs amazing, and the 290w power supply gives me a lot of confidence in the PC. From what I've heard, the 4th gen i7 is roughly equivalent to an 8th gen i5, is that about right?
Either way, super happy with the performance, and undervolted it just for the hell of it lol
Yes the i7 4790/i7 6700 performs roughly the same but it’s a tricky comparison! Just depends in games really, personally I’d go for a 4core 8thread over 6core as it will be a little smoother.
Glad your enjoying the build and dw we’ve all been Facebook scammed 😎
@@andystech101 haha, yeah I like to think of getting scammed on facebook as "an investment in a life lesson" 😂
Could the RX6600M 8 GB also work?
Yes I’d say so as that’s a laptop chip so uses less power over the normal 6600.
Hi Folks hope you enjoy the video! Let me know what you think and if you’d be brave enough to run the janky adapter 😎
How are the thermals on this system? I was planning on an almost identical build, same GPU and everything, but the GPU being so close to the PSU seems like it'd make for a bad case of hot temperatures.
Temps where ok tbh. The gpu was undervolted and the cpu did ok with the Dell cooler. It’s the SFF builds that are the hotboxes
wheres the links brotha
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Sorry bro links would have been well out of date at this point so have been removed.
I have an old Asus ROG Strix GTX970 lying around, can this be used in the Optiplex 3060 instead of a 1660ti?
The 970 will use too much power unfortunately! 10 series and above have the undervolt feature but 900 series don’t. An option would be to find a HP MT some of those come with a 500w Gold PSU which will work fine. Really you need to be pulling 100w or less to be safe.
Recently found your channel and have been binging the playlists. Very entertaining. You should do a collab video with fellow Brit Tubers Random Gaming In HD and Budget Builds Official. Have a set budget and set of games to benchmark. Best results wins. Could have a things like no new tech and only stuff from Ebay/Marketplace etc and Tech of certain age like in between Intel 1st and 6th Gen and or amd equivelant. Same with Graphics cards. Just a cool idea I had and thought i'd share!
Would definitely be an interesting video! I’d like my chances at winning as well 💪🏼
can i put a rx 580 instead of a gtx 1660 super?
Hi you can but you’ll be on the limit of the PSU. The 1660 undervolted pull under 100w where as the RX580 will pull 160ish watts
@@andystech101Actually i found the optiplex 9020 wich has a i7 4770 and i was thinking if i could pair it with a rx 570 or a gtx 1050 ti and if needed undervolted like how you did. Most games that i like are low to mid end games. Thank you so much for replying to my comment! am really new to this and i felt kinda lost with what to choose
I couldn't fix that graphics card for less than $200. Are there any other options even less flashy ones?
Other options would be the GTX1650, 1050ti, 1050, the standard 1660 as well. AMD wise you could go with an RX560/460 or a cheap Ali express RX580
Seems like £250 well spent.
I think you could do a lot worse for £250 😁
Excuse me, currently i have an 3040mt i5 6500 and rx 460, if i upgrade the gpu for 1650 super with sata to pci it would be fine? psu 240w, should i undervolt the gpu?
Yes you’ll be fine, there no real data on the stress on the PSU over time but there cheap enough to replace as well if needed 🤩
help! i did this same build but it gives me an error when i turn on the pc
What’s the error? Check the ram and give it a wiggle, check connections etc, update the bios
@andystech101 i managed to fix it, im just scared of my gpu, i have the same one and im actually scared my sata to 8 pin adapter will melt if i make my gpu consume more than 100 watts, do you think it will be alright? (also sorry if i made mistakes, english is not my first language)
Hey, I just bought the exact same pc, but I'm not used to undervolting graphics cards. I'm going to buy the RX 580 4gb. Do you have any tips, please? Oh, and can the power supply be changed in this system? The case seems pretty small for a mid tower.
Generally just go for 100mv off the card in afterburner, then keep going 25mV at a time till it’s unstable. Well that’s the basics, there’s loads of videos on here about that. You maybe pushing a 580 on that PSU as they can pull 150w power. You’d be better with a 1660super. The PSU can be changed but it’s not a normal size and you’ll need motherboard adapters.
@andystech101 Thnx for the advice!
You should throw a rtx4060 (non-ti) in there. Psu can take it. That would be ultimate🤣
The would be fun to see if I could afford one 🤣
Just curious but wouldn't those CPU temps be considered high ?
No not for a Dell like this, the coolers are crap and they often run into the 80s
@@andystech101 shew I start panicking @65 lol. Thank you for the reply
Do you use a controller ? Just wondering .
I do yes for some games, I’m left handed so it’s just easier for me 😅
Andy do you think that a RX 6400 would work in this system?
Yes it’s a straight fit, you will loose some performance as it’s a gen 4 x4 card and you’ll be running in gen 3 x4
@@andystech101 also i still have some other questions
1. What other cards can run on the 260 watt Psu without undervolting?
2.whats the best graphics card for this build based on this specifications
Below 80 watts of power
Great performance for a decent price
Thats all andy :))
If u add an undervolt RX 6600?
I’d say that would work. It pulls about the same power, maybe slightly more.
'promosm' 💥
Anyone know if this system supports windows 11?
Hi it does yes, anything 8th gen and over will on the intel side of things.
can anyone tell me how much fps does this upgraded PC get in valorant ?
Just search on TH-cam for i5 8500 / 1660super Valorant but over 200fps as a rough estimate.