That was interesting. I remember my grandparents having one of those in the late 1960s when we visited them and they would make fizzy drinks (not wine) for us kids. I thought the sparklets bulbs were neat. Also, in the late 1980s I frequented a pub that had pre-filled and pressurised glass soda-siphons. They rarely got used for drinks, mostly we used them to squirt at everyone in the bar on certain nights, including the bar staff who joined in as well. Those were fun days. Sadly that pub, like all the other good ones has closed.
7:00 For those curious YT has a video called: "How it's made- CO2 cartridges" - tldr: cartridge is put into a sealed machine within a machine and it's filled and capped like the bigman said.
There is one main difference from Clive's explanation because his guess what that the cap is spot welded on. The video shows a lip was cut on a lathe and the caps look like they are put on it and then crimped not spot welded onto the neck. The ones that clive has looks a bit different and the cap is inside the neck of the container so I suspect the neck is crimped around the caps because it is a bit conical. The shape of the neck is visible at 6:21. You can see tool marks on the neck of the cylinder from some direction.
In junior high school, My class made little drag race cars out of wood. a hole was in the back to accept a CO2 cylinder. Two cars would be set up on a trigger mechanism that launched both at the same time. I took my time and carved mine with an aerodynamic body. sanded it all real smooth and painted it. I sanded the plastic wheels smooth of their sprue dimples and used a wee little bit of graphite in the axles. Another girl just rough-cut some flat-nosed, very narrow wedge. and slapped the wheels on. When it launched, hers fell over on its side and slid down the track (Track being two tight, 50 or 60 foot long cables that ran through two screw-eyes in the bottoms of the cars) And it STILL beat mine by 2 feet! I called shenanigans on the quality of the CO2 cylinders.
So the concave shape in the bottle is called a punt. In wine bottles it makes the bottle easier to pour, but in this case it's a way to allow the bottle to handle the pressure and not fall over when you put it down. Anytime you're dealing with pressure vessels, the more spherical the better. Obviously a round bottom bottle won't stand up, so the punt turns part of the sphere inside out and follows the curvature of an ancient roman arch. 2000 years of engineering and materials science went into a device that makes fizz-water.
First of all you are absolutely right. I know for a fact a lot of people The Ponte . I know I probably spelled it wrong. I'm using Google for voice recognition sorry. Been more than one comment I've made at the Google turns out hilarious not intentionally. Anyone have stories on that or anything similar it'd be good to come in here just asking. Also is it possible to use Google voice recognition for Windows 10 PC use? Any comments on that would be appreciated I need to use voice recognition most of the time. And it would be better for some things than dragon. Any comments suggestions whenever would be appreciated thanks ahead of time. think that the bottom of a wine bottle is just so it's easier to pour if there's a domed in word but no it's for structural reasons because of pressure. All so By any chance are you an engineer?
@@misterhat5823 Never heard that one before. The punt decreases the volume of the bottle and would get you less in a case. I did find a Wikipedia reference though. "It allows bottles to be more easily stacked end to end" But if that were the case (see what I did there) why not use square bottles? Well that's where we are with Bota Boxes and Bota Bricks. Which I love. Being able to take the equivalent of four bottles of wine home in my backpack is the best thing the 21st century has to offer.
Just remember to use the food-grade CO2 cartridges, the ones made for CO2-powered weaponry can contain a small amount of lubricant which wouldn't taste nice in fizzy trash wine... :P
A friend considered retrofitting a SodaStream for those large CO2 bottles - same problem there. Except finding food-safe 20l bottles of CO2 is even harder. And after we ran the numbers, it wasn't even worth it, at least when you take the cheaper non-branded cartridges.
The 7 colors coming from an argon are something to marvel at. The 514nm green just seemed so much nicer a shade than the 532nm greens of today and the variety of blues and purples were optically delicious. In the day, nothing else produced such a purple beam. I used to have an Omnichrome 532 for lightshow use. Splitting a 250mW argon beam with a prism and sending those beams through rippled glass on a turntable makes for an infinitely variable animation. Laser effects today just don't seem as rich.
Im guessing there must be a vape sized dispenser for no2 by now. Gotta beat walking around with a balloon like you've just come from a McDonald's birthday party.
@@crazygeorgelincoln That comment made a very dark day a bliss thank you :) . I imaginated road accidents by people running over empty bright red canisters and as soon as i came to the realization that the empty canisters are most likley the least reason for said imaginary accidents just made me laugh for 45 mins straight.
When I was a kid I remember there was a company in my country which sold carbonated water in siphons somewhat similar to this one, except they were single-use and not user-refillable. You would return empty siphons to back to the company and they would refill them. I loved these siphons. Made tons of lemonade using water from them.
Liquid ability to dissolve gas in it increases as temperature drops, just opposite to solid dissolvability which increases as temperature rises. That is why cold wine will be better carbonized than warm one.
A tip I read for carbonating wine in an old 1950s Sparkletts ad was flipping the bottle upside down when pressurizing. When you pressurize right-side up the CO2 is passing out the stem and through the wine, frothing it up like shown, but flipping it upside down lets you load the canister with CO2 without it bubbling through the wine, then gradually dissolve it.
I'm the same age as Clive and remember a teacher at primary school using one of those cylinders to propel a small rocket along a string between two buildings. They were certainly fun to play with.
Great. Always wondered how these worked. My dad had one years ago. I remember pinching one of the little co2 bottles & throwing on a bin bonfire in the bag garden. Nothing happened for ages, so walked off. Then as I walked away it exploded shattering windows & throwing red hot shards of bin. Just a normal day in my life.
Funny, I just threw an orange coloured one out from my late dads house clearing - I saved the glass wire bound one. If you let the CO2 in slowly as shake it, it also works better , rather in one quick rush I remember as a kid dropping a sparkletts down a copper tube onto a nail, it shot out hit the ceiling and went mad all around the room - such fun.
Wearing a long black cloak she moves graciously towards the bar, removes the cigarette holder from her lips and without a word the bartender knows her usual drink, and picks up the soda siphon. She raises her eyebrow to a watching well dressed man who offers his seat at a table next to a piano... All that is because I associate soda siphons with a time of pocket watches, hats, cigarette holders, black & white mono sound films. 1920s Art Deco era etc. Random comments, worth reading... I will go now, who knows where I'll be next? Picking up a wooden handled umbrella, he vanishes into the torrential rain and weak street lighting...
Back in the day, I had a bicycle pump that operated off these cartridges too. Great, light-weight pump for on the go. I later used the same pump to pump CO2 in to my growing plants to help them take the heat of the hydroponic system.
@Bill Whittaker ;) Weed early in life until I discovered live resins and shatter. Then I grew food for my two pet rabbits. I'm old enough to remember when 1000w HID's were in. I was an early adopter of LED's and elevated CO2 levels. I basically tried to replicate a PhotoTron if you're of the age to remember those ads.
Yes, it was some weird thing I would see in cartoons like Bugs Bunny. So, it is basically for adding CO2 to water and you get a sugarless carbonated drink that tastes acidic and weird.
@@vmelkon carbonated water is awful, you can only taste the carbon/popping on your tongue unless the water is flavored. Source: i drank carbonated water just for the sake of anti-ignorance and gained a displeasure for carbonated water.
@@generic6099 : Yes, I know. It has a weird taste. I drank Canada Dry soda once. I hear that for colas, they have to add a lot of water to make it taste good but they also have to add phosphoric acid to balance things out. I don't know why phosphoric acid was specifically chosen instead of hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid.
Thank you. All I wanted to know was how the measuring tube worked and how it was used. I had to dig, but found your very simple explanation along with a lot of other interesting facts!
Clive. I have to say your the only person who could make teardown of this device interesting! I know if I did it I would have a group of sleeping people! I know you had me start to finish.
In Hungary we only drink wine with seltzer water and we call it "Fröccs". That was a tradition when you made seltzer water with a siphon. You needed one CO2 cartridge for a 1L siphon and two CO2 cartridge for a 2L one. As a kid I liked when my hand is frosted on the cartridge when I twisted the cartridge holder into the siphon's head.
Ooh, those cartridges trigger good memories and a bad feeling at the same time. As a kid I filled the empty cartridges with the powder out of multiple new year's match type bangers. The "fuse" was one ladycracker stuck into the opening (with a part of the long real fuse it was attached to). The resulting bang got the whole neighbourhood look out the window and left a hole the size of a small bowl in the ground (the thing wasn't even buried). I guess I'm lucky that I've still got all my finger or even that I'm still alive.
Yea, sometimes I wonder just how I managed to live through childhood, and with very little in the way of scars and not a single broken bone. Also makes me feel that kids growing up today are missing out on so much fun stuff, but then they've got the entire internet to find things to do that could kill them, so perhaps it's not that bad...
I remember at about age 14 drilling out the top and filling with magnesium powder(supplied by a friend whose father was a chemistry teacher) + potassium nitrate, which made a fairly powerful explosive. The fuse was a small firecracker with the base cut off. We tested one in my tree house which had a tgv floor, we put an old washing machine drum over it as a guard. The explosion left our ears ringing and blasted a section of tgv out of the floor.
The co2 cylinders are also used to inflate bicycle tires, as they are faster and smaller than having to pack a pump. Some are like the tube you had, while others are threaded on the end that gets punctured. Either way, you use them with a small adapter that connects them to the presta or Schrader valves on the tire tube. The adapter has some kind of valve release, and it's tricky to control or judge if you have enough in your tire tube, The common knowledge among cyclists (read: not sure if true) is that the co2 will escape from the tubes much faster than air, so you are advised to replace it after you return from your bike ride.
@Bill Whittaker My new tyres (Tires) where inflated with pure Nitrogen when fitted a couple of weeks ago. If you check COSTCO Tyre sales they have an excellent explanation of why it's better.
@@manolisgledsodakis873 Quote "First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings"
@Bill Whittaker What question are you referring to ??? I suggested Nitrogen as an alternative to Co2. Perhaps you would consider reading the comments more carefully in future to save making Ill considered remarks.
When I was 10... 1960, we had a wire bound glass soda siphon and my job was to wash, dry and refill it with both water and gas. No, it didn't break or even crack... the glass must have been about 12mm thick and the binding wire was very tightly bound, giving it more strength. The bulbs were Sparklet brand too. Into the fridge for an hour before applying the gas. Mum and Dad liked their whiskey with a dash of soda. Brings back some fond memories... thanks Clive.
Still got one of those but prefer to use my much more recent one. Only sodastream is available round here & I'm no fan of that corporation so a Syphon is a economic & functional alternative.
Mid 60`s the soda syphons were bought ready to go from your local off-licence, large and glass with a deposit every kid wanted to get his hands on LOL .
As a student I worked at Schweppes where they refilled those large heavy glass soda water bottles. First they were tested at 10 bar in a steel cage. Occasionally a faulty one would explode with a noise like a bomb going off!
I seem to remember us having one of these from when I was a kid. The thing i remember the most was that the instructions has so many safety warnings and made it sound like you were handling a live bomb. :D
I had a couple old antique ones that I never felt safe pressurizing. They were mostly glass (glass bottle and glass dip-tube), and I didn't want an unseen scratch on the glass leading to a failure point, creating a glass fragmentation grenade in my hands... (Also I bet the seals were all natural rubber, and old enough to be dry-rotted...)
The cadets taught me that when combined with a fire starter they are bombs. Perhaps not the actual cause damage variety, but certainly the make a loud noise and fly through the forest a good hundred meters until it hit a tree kind. Good times.
@@jostouw4366 their is a video on TH-cam showing a company in New York that still does it that same way as in the 1930s. Same refillable glass bottles and people delivering and picking them up. Wish they existed in by part of the woods.
Central Europe, 1980s: every home had one. There were a few variations of shapes and colours, we had a 2 liter one (needs 2 cylinders). Everybody knew how to use it. In some cases you had to be careful because the first squirt was so violent that it shoot the syrup out of the glass, children loved trying it first outside. Those were such times if somebody told us that in a few years we will buy water in a plastic bottle in the supermarket, we would not believe. We (as kids at least) did not even know that bottled sparkling water existed. This machine was the base of our drinks: soft drinks from home made fruit syrup for kids and sparkling wine (wine+sparkling water) for adults.
I remember my nan having one of these back in the 70s she also had one of those wine bottle openers that injected carbon dioxide in to the bottle to open it. If I remember rightly they were discontinued due to some wine bottle exploding before the cork popped out.
Mark Wallis I bought my parents one of the CO2 bottle openers for Christmas back in the 1970s. I could have sworn that I picked it up when I cleared the house after they died, but nope. However, I do somehow have the original box of CO2 capsules, which still has two in it. Picture of the box: flic.kr/p/7vVrkx
@@DavidCowie2022 I think I still have the one from my nan, when she passed, up in the loft, I'll have to dig it out and see if I can blow up a bottle :)
I think the bottom is concave because if it was flat the pressure would blow it outward and the flask would not stand straight upright the, rounded corners are to prevent stress fractures.
On the darker side of things, I have heard of these or the whipping cream bottles exploding, news articles were never clear as to how many gas cartridges were used to charge the devices. Another issue comes to mind is that I have several Luxfer aluminum gas cylinders and the company that I deal with states that the law in my state requires a five year inspection of aluminum gas cylinders every five years if used with CO2, if one is using an inert gas such as helium it is a ten year test and inspection. The inspection of steel cylinders is set at ten years for both inert and reactive gasses. This even applies to ones paintball marker cylinders. In testing the safety they actually remove the valve stem ( on an empty cylinder ) inspect it visually with a bore scope camera, if all looks ok they proceeded to a hydro test where a special fitting is screwed I to the cylinder, the cylinder is lowered into a special containment sleeve and is then filled with water. They use a high pressure pump to fill the cylinder with water to the test pressure recommended by the manufacture of the cylinder. If it holds it gets a date and approval stamp of the shop testing it. If it fails you can reclaim the ruptured cylinder for recycling. Now as for these food service devices, I have visually inspected both of my units which are made of aluminum,mother interiors are no longer shiny but they are not pitted either after 30 years of use. Still I wonder if they are safe considering no gas shop can test these devices. If in doubt, invest in another device and throw away the old one or use it as a bud vase for cat nip.
"Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a Polaroid picture" Pretty kewl video...never actually seen one of these used for anything other than squirting people :)
On the subject of spraying people with these, are you thinking of seltzer? That's the transparent glass bottles with spray nozzle they used in Tom and Jerry Example/(short) documentary: th-cam.com/video/agAkMbk20y4/w-d-xo.html
I'm not that old at all. :)) and I can remember from the depths of my memory hole those things being home delivered by the crate! Pack of smokes & Whisky and soda era? The difference is that they had no cartridge but were rather filled up at the distribution point. No PET plastics. Full recycling.
The ikkle canisters are punched out of a slug of metal, the same process they use to make toothpaste tubes, coke cans and sub-aqua bottles (even a small flask takes some pretty impressive forces to roll out. The complete tubes are then sent to the filling factory. There the empty tube is filled in a sealed chamber that's bigger than the tube - this allows them to pour the stuff in in a pressurised environment, then a system of rollers bends over the top of the bottle to seal it, you should be able to find the edge of the seal if you use a sharp knife or valve hook. This gives a good shelf life. We currently have a problem with kids snorting nitrous oxide, the flasks used have a little rubber sphincter pushed into the top of the bottle and they're filled by injection from a bog standard gas bottle, presumably they don't need much shelf life. If you look for "how it's made" or "how do they do that" you'll see a couple of different vids and filings.
I wonder if you just loaded the bottle up with slices of fruit if they would get carbonated. A nice fizzy slice of orange seems like it could be very good
My grandparents had sparklet soda syphons back in the late 1950's, the bulb holder was a skeletal affair with two fins looking very rocket like when the bulb was inside it, as I remember it they put a teaspoon of bicarb or baking powder in the water first to make soda water, I was five or six when I first saw them they had two so one was always full.
When i was a kid i made a co2 rocket from the cartridge. I taped a thumb tack to the bottom of the cartridge, and a cardboard tube around the thing to act as a wing. Put it in a pipe and whacked it with something. Flew out of the yard. Guess a bit over 50 meters. Those cartridges had a bit more recessed seal though, it was easier to seat a pin like that.
'60s and '70s, Clive? The original "Sparklets" soda syphon goes all the way back to 1896 - definitely predates the "Sodastream". My earliest Sodastream was a model from the turn of the decade, '50s/'60s. When I was a mere grasshopper, I saw these things being used (or abused) in countless old movies, and always seemed to be a plaything for the well-to-do, but I also remember in school, we occasionally got to play with the CO2 bulbs as a source of propulsion for various experiments, launching tiny 'vehicles' across the floor for the purpose of demonstrating the effects of drag, and the inefficiencies imposed by drag factors. As I recall, the empty bulbs were quite highly prized amongst the boys in our class, a sort of trophy I guess.
Does bottle have safety spot? Small really light rounded dent at the bottom or top, so if it over pressure it will rapture there instead of random spot? I remember that someone say to me that some pressure kitchen canisters have those but I never had chance to check that(or I just forgot about it)
For best carbonation leave the container in the fridge for 12 plus hours. Not sure if this would work but when we get frothy beer we solve this by putting in longer beer lines. Maybe a coil of say 3m of food grade plastic pipe on the end of the nozzle?
I preferred the Sparklets beer tap for the party 4 and party 7 :D Thinking about it, the longer cylinder may have been for those, i just checked mine (yes i still have it) and it measures 62.5mm internally where the cylinder goes.
I almost wonder if the whole manufacturing of the cylinders process isn't done under a high pressure atmosphere so that there is no worry of them leaking before being sealed. Edit: just looked into it and it appears that the capping and filling happens in the same machine, I've gotta think under the same pressure.
It's a funny quirk of physics that the colder a liquid is the better gasses dissolve in it, while the warmer a liquid is the better solids dissolve in it.
Just using mine at the moment. Water + a teaspoon of bicarb makes soda water great for scotch and soda. I have an old glass siphon. The seals failed, I bought another cheap siphon, and the new head fitted on the old siphon. I buy the co2 cylinders in packs of 100. I drink a lot of scotch.
1. Not convinced the Co2 goes down the long dip tube. I suspect it just goes down the shorter one. 2. Chilled soft drinks, when poured, fizz a lot less than room temperature ones. Again, the cold liquid retains the CO2 better. 3. Does it work if you put beer into it ? 4. Bottle of wine - no need to top up to the level with water.
My brother used to chuck the green sparklets into a bonfire and they would explode making a huge bang and shoot out the split metal cannister about 30 feet and embedd it into a nearby tree / person / shed. Oh how we amused ourselves back in the 1980's He also found that cutting off small sections of corrigated asbestos shed roofiing and putting in a fire would also cause it to explod (odd for a suposed fire proof material).... I often wonder how none of use were killed :D
I grew up with something called soda butler that is basically a larger tank of CO2 and a bottle with a clip on tire valve stem in the cap to get your CO2 into the bottle. In experimenting over the years as when I was younger I wanted the most carbonation I could get, warm water takes and releases the CO2 the fastest, cold water would hold on to the CO2 more but was also harder to to get a really good carbonation so being that the system had many bottles I would put room temperature water into the bottles, carbonate it, and put the bottle into the fridge to get cold and when you do that my dr pepper would bubble like a volcano when opened and when poured over ice instead of going pretty flat would end up being as carbonated as drinking one out of the can. You wouldn't want to drink it straight out of the bottle that carbonated but it was fun.
These were everywhere, there was a lot of glass and crystal ones too...mostly remember the adults had it as part of their bar. Years later they were in all the op shops when people were basically throwing them away. Now you never see them and the supermarkets don't sell the cartridges anymore. Well at least here in Australia.
The original Soda Stream bottles were stainless steel. The new ones all appear to be aluminium. I wonder which makes the biggest explosion when you fill with diesel and 5 x NO2 chargers? Only one way to find out...
That simple non-return gas valve is like the old Dunlop bicycle tyre valves - the ones that were repaired using the bit of tubing in a puncture repair kit that no-one (inc me) ever knew the purpose of...
Thanks Clive, went all through settings, set for stereo. Don't have any Dolby options ( older HP laptop), I can hook up an external powered speaker that will enable more gain.
Already being familiar with soda streams from the early 70s it was like a cosy chat with uncle Clive tonight. Informative and slightly boozy. Just the way I like it. Next week the correct method (with diagrams) of rolling the perfect spliff.
Are those small capsules recyclable ? A quick google reveals they're 5 times more expensive than sodastream gas, which in itself is also already a "scam". Get a soda stream, get a conversion kit from ebay, and connect your sodastream to a big (food grade) CO2 tank (anything from 2L to 10L, must be pressurized gas, not liquid CO2) and you get your fizzy water so incredibly cheap. You have to buy the CO2 bottle instead of licensing it (which makes it a "steep" purchase at the start), but refills are so dirt cheap you get it back in no time. You "may" be able to sell the empty bottle back at the end if you no longer want a refill. Only disadvantage is the requirement to have the large co2 bottle close to your sodastream. 600ml sodastream bottle: about 12 Euro. (bottle under license, you get 2Euro if you return it without refilling). 10L co2 bottle (180 Euro for the bottle (yes), the 2L and 5L are obviously a cheaper, but have a more expensive refill): 25-30 Euro for a refill. So for the cost of 20 sodastream CO2 bottles... you can get the big CO2 and get the same amount of fizzy water. After that, you start saving 10 euro on each additional sodastream bottle you no longer need to buy. If you use a lot of fizzy water in a day, this pays itself back in no time.
@@AlanJenney Well with "recycling" I meant "reuse"/refill, not shipping them to china where they can melt them down into steel to make more stuff to sell to Big Clive. If they are "waste", it's a pretty expensive way to make fizzy water. Maybe that's why Clive uses them on wine, to make it a better bargain than fizzy water :-D
Martin J - AW C’MON THAT ONE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE AN H IN IT! (There’s gonna be a bunch of people who have no clue hwhat hwe’re doing here, and another bunch of pedants who are going to be triggered because I didn’t look any of this up in hwiki quotes)
As a kid in the 50s, I remember my dad having a glass soda siphon. It was reinforced with metal straps looking like lattice. It was dad’s ‘toy’, we weren’t allowed to touch it, I guess because of the danger.
See these used in cooking shows. You can make various foams. Most interesting is you put cake batter into it without leavening and you foam it into a cup and microwave it. Instant cake and no where near thinking it was microwaved.
Its a liquid inside the capsules, it has a liquid to gas expansion of over 530x and is stored at roughly 800psi and the cap will be designed to burst at around 1300psi to vent the pressure 'safely' instead of the bottle exploding if it gets too hot. i dont know exactly how they get the caps on the bottles but i know that they are filled at a very low temperature and they must be kept at pressure during filling as Liquid co2 cannot exist at normal pressure and that pressure must be maintained right though to the cap being fixed on otherwise the co2 will instantly boil off and so the machine must have some sort of capping mechanism that works inside the pressurised filling head.
Mr. Clive excuse me but the audio does not sound in stereo, something happens to the audio, that sounds very . I can't hear it with headphones why the audio is not heard on my laptop. I thought they were technical problems on my part but no. It is only certain videos that audio is not heard in headphones I inform you of this event so that you take precautions and manage to modify that tectin failure. very good channel congratulations and thanks for your time.
Your laptop probably has it's audio set to surround sound and is putting the sound out to a missing middle speaker. Try going to the audio settings and changing it to stereo.
I have some sparklet bulb filling nozzles I got from a home workshop clearance of an ex. BOC chief engineer. Still haven't figured out entirely how they work.
The colder the liquid the more CO2 will be absorbed by the liquid. Beer works fine. When you shake it the liquid absorbs more CO2 and the pressure drops inside. So if its cold enough and you shake enough and left it sitting for a while, theoretically you can use more than one CO2 Capsule.
I don't know how old it is but I have a refillable soda siphon of indeterminate age with a metal mesh enclosed glass 'bottle'. I have never filled it and pressurised it being fearful of an explosion. Hearing your comments about aged seals I'm even less inclined to waste a very expensive CO2 cartridge.
That was interesting. I remember my grandparents having one of those in the late 1960s when we visited them and they would make fizzy drinks (not wine) for us kids. I thought the sparklets bulbs were neat. Also, in the late 1980s I frequented a pub that had pre-filled and pressurised glass soda-siphons. They rarely got used for drinks, mostly we used them to squirt at everyone in the bar on certain nights, including the bar staff who joined in as well. Those were fun days. Sadly that pub, like all the other good ones has closed.
7:00 For those curious YT has a video called: "How it's made- CO2 cartridges"
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tldr: cartridge is put into a sealed machine within a machine and it's filled and capped like the bigman said.
There is one main difference from Clive's explanation because his guess what that the cap is spot welded on. The video shows a lip was cut on a lathe and the caps look like they are put on it and then crimped not spot welded onto the neck.
The ones that clive has looks a bit different and the cap is inside the neck of the container so I suspect the neck is crimped around the caps because it is a bit conical. The shape of the neck is visible at 6:21. You can see tool marks on the neck of the cylinder from some direction.
The How it's made video misses vital details of how the process exactly works (common with a lot of their videos).
Unfortunately that video glances over how that one machine works.
In junior high school, My class made little drag race cars out of wood. a hole was in the back to accept a CO2 cylinder. Two cars would be set up on a trigger mechanism that launched both at the same time. I took my time and carved mine with an aerodynamic body. sanded it all real smooth and painted it. I sanded the plastic wheels smooth of their sprue dimples and used a wee little bit of graphite in the axles. Another girl just rough-cut some flat-nosed, very narrow wedge. and slapped the wheels on. When it launched, hers fell over on its side and slid down the track (Track being two tight, 50 or 60 foot long cables that ran through two screw-eyes in the bottoms of the cars) And it STILL beat mine by 2 feet! I called shenanigans on the quality of the CO2 cylinders.
Curiously, a wedge with only 3 wheels, and only 2 that touch at any time is the perfect derby racer.
@@ICountFrom0 True.. But I got beat by what was basically a door-stop, sliding on its side
That's what peek performance looks like.
I'm guessing you are about my age. We did the same thing in 1949.
@@MarvinStroud3 I was born in '75, I built my CO2 racer in 1989/90 school-year.
So the concave shape in the bottle is called a punt. In wine bottles it makes the bottle easier to pour, but in this case it's a way to allow the bottle to handle the pressure and not fall over when you put it down. Anytime you're dealing with pressure vessels, the more spherical the better. Obviously a round bottom bottle won't stand up, so the punt turns part of the sphere inside out and follows the curvature of an ancient roman arch. 2000 years of engineering and materials science went into a device that makes fizz-water.
First of all you are absolutely right.
I know for a fact a lot of people
The Ponte .
I know I probably spelled it wrong.
I'm using Google for voice recognition sorry.
Been more than one comment I've made at the Google turns out hilarious not intentionally.
Anyone have stories on that or anything similar it'd be good to come in here just asking.
Also is it possible to use Google voice recognition for Windows 10 PC use?
Any comments on that would be appreciated I need to use voice recognition most of the time.
And it would be better for some things than dragon.
Any comments suggestions whenever would be appreciated thanks ahead of time.
think that the bottom of a wine bottle is just so it's easier to pour if there's a domed in word but no it's for structural reasons because of pressure.
All so By any chance are you an engineer?
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 Not an engineer, 15 years in beer and wine production. I guess you could call me a technician.
I thought for wine bottles it was to get more in a case?
@@misterhat5823 Never heard that one before. The punt decreases the volume of the bottle and would get you less in a case. I did find a Wikipedia reference though.
"It allows bottles to be more easily stacked end to end"
But if that were the case (see what I did there) why not use square bottles? Well that's where we are with Bota Boxes and Bota Bricks. Which I love. Being able to take the equivalent of four bottles of wine home in my backpack is the best thing the 21st century has to offer.
BigClive talks with a light in his teeth and all I can hear is Sean Connery
I shee what you mean
OMG he really does I wanted to hear him say "shaken not stirred so badly" LOL
I'd rather see him show off an old school BB machine gun, perfect use of R12 cans, those bubbles are girly
Alan Curtis 😂
Sure beats hearing Sean Hannity.
Just remember to use the food-grade CO2 cartridges, the ones made for CO2-powered weaponry can contain a small amount of lubricant which wouldn't taste nice in fizzy trash wine... :P
A friend considered retrofitting a SodaStream for those large CO2 bottles - same problem there. Except finding food-safe 20l bottles of CO2 is even harder. And after we ran the numbers, it wasn't even worth it, at least when you take the cheaper non-branded cartridges.
Unless you want to make fizzy lube, then it's probably fine.
...Clive would make fizzy lube
"It gives you a zing on your thing!"
@@rolfs2165 i used food grade dry ice in my soda stream and works good and cheap.
We used to use the nitrous version of these for NOT making whipped cream at large underground parties with walls of bassbins and argon lasers.....
The argon lasers bit showed your age. It's all DPSS these days. Much easier to work with.
The 7 colors coming from an argon are something to marvel at. The 514nm green just seemed so much nicer a shade than the 532nm greens of today and the variety of blues and purples were optically delicious. In the day, nothing else produced such a purple beam. I used to have an Omnichrome 532 for lightshow use. Splitting a 250mW argon beam with a prism and sending those beams through rippled glass on a turntable makes for an infinitely variable animation. Laser effects today just don't seem as rich.
Im guessing there must be a vape sized dispenser for no2 by now. Gotta beat walking around with a balloon like you've just come from a McDonald's birthday party.
Give it a few years they will all be driving oround with fire extinguishers chucking the empties out the window.
@@crazygeorgelincoln That comment made a very dark day a bliss thank you :) . I imaginated road accidents by people running over empty bright red canisters and as soon as i came to the realization that the empty canisters are most likley the least reason for said imaginary accidents just made me laugh for 45 mins straight.
Excellent! Competent, knowlegable and fun. No silly intros telling youwhat is obvious, and NO DAFT MUSIC! Thanks Clive!!
NO Woofles here !!!!!!!!
When I was a kid I remember there was a company in my country which sold carbonated water in siphons somewhat similar to this one, except they were single-use and not user-refillable. You would return empty siphons to back to the company and they would refill them.
I loved these siphons. Made tons of lemonade using water from them.
Liquid ability to dissolve gas in it increases as temperature drops, just opposite to solid dissolvability which increases as temperature rises. That is why cold wine will be better carbonized than warm one.
Thermodynamics ftw. !
A tip I read for carbonating wine in an old 1950s Sparkletts ad was flipping the bottle upside down when pressurizing. When you pressurize right-side up the CO2 is passing out the stem and through the wine, frothing it up like shown, but flipping it upside down lets you load the canister with CO2 without it bubbling through the wine, then gradually dissolve it.
I'm the same age as Clive and remember a teacher at primary school using one of those cylinders to propel a small rocket along a string between two buildings. They were certainly fun to play with.
Great. Always wondered how these worked. My dad had one years ago. I remember pinching one of the little co2 bottles & throwing on a bin bonfire in the bag garden. Nothing happened for ages, so walked off. Then as I walked away it exploded shattering windows & throwing red hot shards of bin. Just a normal day in my life.
Funny, I just threw an orange coloured one out from my late dads house clearing - I saved the glass wire bound one.
If you let the CO2 in slowly as shake it, it also works better , rather in one quick rush
I remember as a kid dropping a sparkletts down a copper tube onto a nail, it shot out hit the ceiling and went mad all around the room - such fun.
The plastic lever with a hole drilled through it looks a serious design flaw. Older levers were metal.
Maybe is glass fibre reinforced 30%
@@mmartinm with a TPU overmolding? with those styrene at the end of the molecules?
@@mmartinm/videos skookum
It's called planned obsolescence
Some plastics are stronger than some metals, so I wouldn't say so.
16:18 Clive singing and shakin' "it like a polaroid picture."
Wearing a long black cloak she moves graciously towards the bar, removes the cigarette holder from her lips and without a word the bartender knows her usual drink, and picks up the soda siphon. She raises her eyebrow to a watching well dressed man who offers his seat at a table next to a piano...
All that is because I associate soda siphons with a time of pocket watches, hats, cigarette holders, black & white mono sound films. 1920s Art Deco era etc.
Random comments, worth reading... I will go now, who knows where I'll be next? Picking up a wooden handled umbrella, he vanishes into the torrential rain and weak street lighting...
Back in the day, I had a bicycle pump that operated off these cartridges too. Great, light-weight pump for on the go. I later used the same pump to pump CO2 in to my growing plants to help them take the heat of the hydroponic system.
@Bill Whittaker ;) Weed early in life until I discovered live resins and shatter. Then I grew food for my two pet rabbits. I'm old enough to remember when 1000w HID's were in. I was an early adopter of LED's and elevated CO2 levels. I basically tried to replicate a PhotoTron if you're of the age to remember those ads.
I remember these from Tom & Jerry, but never had any idea what it was for...
😎
Yes, it was some weird thing I would see in cartoons like Bugs Bunny. So, it is basically for adding CO2 to water and you get a sugarless carbonated drink that tastes acidic and weird.
Now you know. It's a precursor for Soda Stream.
@@vmelkon carbonated water is awful, you can only taste the carbon/popping on your tongue unless the water is flavored.
Source: i drank carbonated water just for the sake of anti-ignorance and gained a displeasure for carbonated water.
@@generic6099 :
Yes, I know. It has a weird taste. I drank Canada Dry soda once. I hear that for colas, they have to add a lot of water to make it taste good but they also have to add phosphoric acid to balance things out.
I don't know why phosphoric acid was specifically chosen instead of hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid.
Thank you. All I wanted to know was how the measuring tube worked and how it was used. I had to dig, but found your very simple explanation along with a lot of other interesting facts!
Clive. I have to say your the only person who could make teardown of this device interesting! I know if I did it I would have a group of sleeping people! I know you had me start to finish.
lol Clive I love your variety. You have the chops required for this job.
In Hungary we only drink wine with seltzer water and we call it "Fröccs". That was a tradition when you made seltzer water with a siphon. You needed one CO2 cartridge for a 1L siphon and two CO2 cartridge for a 2L one. As a kid I liked when my hand is frosted on the cartridge when I twisted the cartridge holder into the siphon's head.
Ooh, those cartridges trigger good memories and a bad feeling at the same time. As a kid I filled the empty cartridges with the powder out of multiple new year's match type bangers. The "fuse" was one ladycracker stuck into the opening (with a part of the long real fuse it was attached to). The resulting bang got the whole neighbourhood look out the window and left a hole the size of a small bowl in the ground (the thing wasn't even buried). I guess I'm lucky that I've still got all my finger or even that I'm still alive.
Yea, sometimes I wonder just how I managed to live through childhood, and with very little in the way of scars and not a single broken bone. Also makes me feel that kids growing up today are missing out on so much fun stuff, but then they've got the entire internet to find things to do that could kill them, so perhaps it's not that bad...
I remember at about age 14 drilling out the top and filling with magnesium powder(supplied by a friend whose father was a chemistry teacher) + potassium nitrate, which made a fairly powerful explosive. The fuse was a small firecracker with the base cut off. We tested one in my tree house which had a tgv floor, we put an old washing machine drum over it as a guard. The explosion left our ears ringing and blasted a section of tgv out of the floor.
That incident also features in an online document called diary of a pyro.
The co2 cylinders are also used to inflate bicycle tires, as they are faster and smaller than having to pack a pump. Some are like the tube you had, while others are threaded on the end that gets punctured. Either way, you use them with a small adapter that connects them to the presta or Schrader valves on the tire tube. The adapter has some kind of valve release, and it's tricky to control or judge if you have enough in your tire tube, The common knowledge among cyclists (read: not sure if true) is that the co2 will escape from the tubes much faster than air, so you are advised to replace it after you return from your bike ride.
I guess you could use the Nitrogen cylinders for tyres.
@Bill Whittaker My new tyres (Tires) where inflated with pure Nitrogen when fitted a couple of weeks ago. If you check COSTCO Tyre sales they have an excellent explanation of why it's better.
@@malcolmtill where?
@@manolisgledsodakis873 Quote "First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings"
@Bill Whittaker What question are you referring to ??? I suggested Nitrogen as an alternative to Co2. Perhaps you would consider reading the comments more carefully in future to save making Ill considered remarks.
When I was 10... 1960, we had a wire bound glass soda siphon and my job was to wash, dry and refill it with both water and gas. No, it didn't break or even crack... the glass must have been about 12mm thick and the binding wire was very tightly bound, giving it more strength. The bulbs were Sparklet brand too. Into the fridge for an hour before applying the gas. Mum and Dad liked their whiskey with a dash of soda. Brings back some fond memories... thanks Clive.
Still got one of those but prefer to use my much more recent one. Only sodastream is available round here & I'm no fan of that corporation so a Syphon is a economic & functional alternative.
This instantly reminded me of that SpongeBob episode where Octo keeps pouring drinks for Patrick and SpongeBob.
"Amplification ratio"
A.K.A.
'Leverage'.
Mid 60`s the soda syphons were bought ready to go from your local off-licence, large and glass with a deposit every kid wanted to get his hands on LOL .
Search TH-cam, their are companies doing it still the exact same way.
Mum and Dad used to run a Pub in 1970's and I even remember the Glass one's that came ready pressurised and were recycled for use again.
As a student I worked at Schweppes where they refilled those large heavy glass soda water bottles. First they were tested at 10 bar in a steel cage. Occasionally a faulty one would explode with a noise like a bomb going off!
@@tomdickson6430 I've got one here, proudly sporting the Royal Cipher, By Appointment. It still has a little liquid and gas and works perfectly.
I seem to remember us having one of these from when I was a kid. The thing i remember the most was that the instructions has so many safety warnings and made it sound like you were handling a live bomb. :D
I had a couple old antique ones that I never felt safe pressurizing. They were mostly glass (glass bottle and glass dip-tube), and I didn't want an unseen scratch on the glass leading to a failure point, creating a glass fragmentation grenade in my hands... (Also I bet the seals were all natural rubber, and old enough to be dry-rotted...)
it was fairly common when I was a kid for some to use a twist tie to attach one of the soda bulbs to a firelighter
@@Sembazuru You would get them filled by the shop that rented them out not for home refilling.
The cadets taught me that when combined with a fire starter they are bombs. Perhaps not the actual cause damage variety, but certainly the make a loud noise and fly through the forest a good hundred meters until it hit a tree kind. Good times.
@@jostouw4366 their is a video on TH-cam showing a company in New York that still does it that same way as in the 1930s.
Same refillable glass bottles and people delivering and picking them up.
Wish they existed in by part of the woods.
As someone who has used but never owned, and therefore never seen inside, a soda siphon. I found this video fascinating!
Good video explanation. Thank you for the trouble to make nice drawn plans for an easier understanding.
who in the UK remembers watching That's Life with the soda siphon and the doggos in the pub?
Yup - that was in the George Hotel, Market Place, Castle Cary, Somerset. (I also saw it on TV in the States back in the Ninties)
"Shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it like a polaroid picture!" Thanks for the earworm, enjoy your wine.
Don't know why, but this made me think of The Persuaders, sashaying up to a bar.
Central Europe, 1980s: every home had one. There were a few variations of shapes and colours, we had a 2 liter one (needs 2 cylinders). Everybody knew how to use it. In some cases you had to be careful because the first squirt was so violent that it shoot the syrup out of the glass, children loved trying it first outside. Those were such times if somebody told us that in a few years we will buy water in a plastic bottle in the supermarket, we would not believe. We (as kids at least) did not even know that bottled sparkling water existed. This machine was the base of our drinks: soft drinks from home made fruit syrup for kids and sparkling wine (wine+sparkling water) for adults.
Thanks for the headphone user warning! Thats why we love the big man!
Laurel and hardy films would have lost half of their comedy props if these hadn't been invented!!!!
I remember my nan having one of these back in the 70s she also had one of those wine bottle openers that injected carbon dioxide in to the bottle to open it. If I remember rightly they were discontinued due to some wine bottle exploding before the cork popped out.
Mark Wallis I bought my parents one of the CO2 bottle openers for Christmas back in the 1970s. I could have sworn that I picked it up when I cleared the house after they died, but nope. However, I do somehow have the original box of CO2 capsules, which still has two in it.
Picture of the box: flic.kr/p/7vVrkx
@@DavidCowie2022 I think I still have the one from my nan, when she passed, up in the loft, I'll have to dig it out and see if I can blow up a bottle :)
I think the bottom is concave because if it was flat the pressure would blow it outward and the flask would not stand straight upright the, rounded corners are to prevent stress fractures.
On the darker side of things, I have heard of these or the whipping cream bottles exploding, news articles were never clear as to how many gas cartridges were used to charge the devices.
Another issue comes to mind is that I have several Luxfer aluminum gas cylinders and the company that I deal with states that the law in my state requires a five year inspection of aluminum gas cylinders every five years if used with CO2, if one is using an inert gas such as helium it is a ten year test and inspection.
The inspection of steel cylinders is set at ten years for both inert and reactive gasses. This even applies to ones paintball marker cylinders.
In testing the safety they actually remove the valve stem ( on an empty cylinder ) inspect it visually with a bore scope camera, if all looks ok they proceeded to a hydro test where a special fitting is screwed I to the cylinder, the cylinder is lowered into a special containment sleeve and is then filled with water. They use a high pressure pump to fill the cylinder with water to the test pressure recommended by the manufacture of the cylinder. If it holds it gets a date and approval stamp of the shop testing it. If it fails you can reclaim the ruptured cylinder for recycling.
Now as for these food service devices, I have visually inspected both of my units which are made of aluminum,mother interiors are no longer shiny but they are not pitted either after 30 years of use. Still I wonder if they are safe considering no gas shop can test these devices. If in doubt, invest in another device and throw away the old one or use it as a bud vase for cat nip.
"Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a Polaroid picture"
Pretty kewl video...never actually seen one of these used for anything other than squirting people :)
On the subject of spraying people with these, are you thinking of seltzer? That's the transparent glass bottles with spray nozzle they used in Tom and Jerry
Example/(short) documentary: th-cam.com/video/agAkMbk20y4/w-d-xo.html
I'm not that old at all. :)) and I can remember from the depths of my memory hole those things being home delivered by the crate!
Pack of smokes & Whisky and soda era?
The difference is that they had no cartridge but were rather filled up at the distribution point. No PET plastics. Full recycling.
Thank you very much big Clive! Very useful!
The ikkle canisters are punched out of a slug of metal, the same process they use to make toothpaste tubes, coke cans and sub-aqua bottles (even a small flask takes some pretty impressive forces to roll out. The complete tubes are then sent to the filling factory.
There the empty tube is filled in a sealed chamber that's bigger than the tube - this allows them to pour the stuff in in a pressurised environment, then a system of rollers bends over the top of the bottle to seal it, you should be able to find the edge of the seal if you use a sharp knife or valve hook. This gives a good shelf life.
We currently have a problem with kids snorting nitrous oxide, the flasks used have a little rubber sphincter pushed into the top of the bottle and they're filled by injection from a bog standard gas bottle, presumably they don't need much shelf life.
If you look for "how it's made" or "how do they do that" you'll see a couple of different vids and filings.
Be interested to see what a pressure gauge would read if applied to the bottle
Great video, well explained, thanks a lot 🇨🇱😊
I wonder if you just loaded the bottle up with slices of fruit if they would get carbonated. A nice fizzy slice of orange seems like it could be very good
You may have just invented something.
They would:
th-cam.com/video/So4ZrzBkJsA/w-d-xo.html
They do! Ben from Applied Science did carbonate apple slices.
He also put pieces of avocado into N2O.
BigClive wiggling it and shaking it, great video 👍
My grandparents had sparklet soda syphons back in the late 1950's, the bulb holder was a skeletal affair with two fins looking very rocket like when the bulb was inside it, as I remember it they put a teaspoon of bicarb or baking powder in the water first to make soda water, I was five or six when I first saw them they had two so one was always full.
16:20 "shake it shake it like a polaroid picture" 😂
When i was a kid i made a co2 rocket from the cartridge. I taped a thumb tack to the bottom of the cartridge, and a cardboard tube around the thing to act as a wing. Put it in a pipe and whacked it with something. Flew out of the yard. Guess a bit over 50 meters. Those cartridges had a bit more recessed seal though, it was easier to seat a pin like that.
When I homebrew beer I usually force-carbonated in 5 gallon corny kegs. Shaking those to get the CO2 to dissolve faster is a bit of a workout. ;)
'60s and '70s, Clive? The original "Sparklets" soda syphon goes all the way back to 1896 - definitely predates the "Sodastream". My earliest Sodastream was a model from the turn of the decade, '50s/'60s. When I was a mere grasshopper, I saw these things being used (or abused) in countless old movies, and always seemed to be a plaything for the well-to-do, but I also remember in school, we occasionally got to play with the CO2 bulbs as a source of propulsion for various experiments, launching tiny 'vehicles' across the floor for the purpose of demonstrating the effects of drag, and the inefficiencies imposed by drag factors. As I recall, the empty bulbs were quite highly prized amongst the boys in our class, a sort of trophy I guess.
I did buy one from the '60s, it is stylish, and it does have a bad seal. Now I intend to fix it however thanks to your explanation.
Good that the company apologized then send you a new one for your troubles lol sensing a Big Clive dissection video. Thanks it was interesting.
Does bottle have safety spot? Small really light rounded dent at the bottom or top, so if it over pressure it will rapture there instead of random spot?
I remember that someone say to me that some pressure kitchen canisters have those but I never had chance to check that(or I just forgot about it)
It has a pressure release valve in the head.
Rapture that gas straight to the Lord!
For best carbonation leave the container in the fridge for 12 plus hours. Not sure if this would work but when we get frothy beer we solve this by putting in longer beer lines. Maybe a coil of say 3m of food grade plastic pipe on the end of the nozzle?
that one way valve design is wonderful! THX! :)
I dig the way Clive says "Idear"
Haha I like the shake it like a Polaroid picture comment. Maybe Clive likes Outkast
This was a refreshing video
WOW i never tough you show something who got produced in my Country!
I preferred the Sparklets beer tap for the party 4 and party 7 :D
Thinking about it, the longer cylinder may have been for those, i just checked mine (yes i still have it) and it measures 62.5mm internally where the cylinder goes.
I see these little silver cylinders everywhere in the streets of east London.... I don't think they held CO2 however!
Oh well, better nitrous canisters than syringes. Still, shame about the littering.
That's a waste! They work great as projectiles in shotgun cartridges!
Its not just London its all over
I almost wonder if the whole manufacturing of the cylinders process isn't done under a high pressure atmosphere so that there is no worry of them leaking before being sealed.
Edit: just looked into it and it appears that the capping and filling happens in the same machine, I've gotta think under the same pressure.
@@48Boxer how would you get it in there? That would waste a lot to just spray co2 in there until it condenses into dry ice.
Video of similar cartridge manufacture: th-cam.com/video/i-w7pqowcPI/w-d-xo.html
It's a funny quirk of physics that the colder a liquid is the better gasses dissolve in it, while the warmer a liquid is the better solids dissolve in it.
Just using mine at the moment. Water + a teaspoon of bicarb makes soda water great for scotch and soda. I have an old glass siphon. The seals failed, I bought another cheap siphon, and the new head fitted on the old siphon. I buy the co2 cylinders in packs of 100. I drink a lot of scotch.
1. Not convinced the Co2 goes down the long dip tube. I suspect it just goes down the shorter one.
2. Chilled soft drinks, when poured, fizz a lot less than room temperature ones. Again, the cold liquid retains the CO2 better.
3. Does it work if you put beer into it ?
4. Bottle of wine - no need to top up to the level with water.
"Sparklets" I believe were the main brand of these.
I remember them as Sparklets Bulbs.
@@johnnodge4327 the co2 cartridge was referred to as the bulb, the main body being a soda syphon.
There were green ones for CO2 and there were blue ones for laffs
@@colinfuller2271
I didn't make it clear, but I was referring to the CO2 canister as the bulb. The whole thing was called a Soda siphon.
My brother used to chuck the green sparklets into a bonfire and they would explode making a huge bang and shoot out the split metal cannister about 30 feet and embedd it into a nearby tree / person / shed. Oh how we amused ourselves back in the 1980's
He also found that cutting off small sections of corrigated asbestos shed roofiing and putting in a fire would also cause it to explod (odd for a suposed fire proof material).... I often wonder how none of use were killed :D
For me this is something new to see
I grew up with something called soda butler that is basically a larger tank of CO2 and a bottle with a clip on tire valve stem in the cap to get your CO2 into the bottle.
In experimenting over the years as when I was younger I wanted the most carbonation I could get, warm water takes and releases the CO2 the fastest, cold water would hold on to the CO2 more but was also harder to to get a really good carbonation so being that the system had many bottles I would put room temperature water into the bottles, carbonate it, and put the bottle into the fridge to get cold and when you do that my dr pepper would bubble like a volcano when opened and when poured over ice instead of going pretty flat would end up being as carbonated as drinking one out of the can.
You wouldn't want to drink it straight out of the bottle that carbonated but it was fun.
The one way valve looks just like a Dunlop bicycle valve.
Carbonated Shiraz ftw tbh (also, good point on gas solubility in liquids, lower temps are better, as long as the liquid doesn't freeze👍)
These were everywhere, there was a lot of glass and crystal ones too...mostly remember the adults had it as part of their bar. Years later they were in all the op shops when people were basically throwing them away. Now you never see them and the supermarkets don't sell the cartridges anymore. Well at least here in Australia.
Did you try your local bike shop Clive? These cannisters are used in inflators for bicycle tyres. Best regards, David.
The original Soda Stream bottles were stainless steel. The new ones all appear to be aluminium.
I wonder which makes the biggest explosion when you fill with diesel and 5 x NO2 chargers? Only one way to find out...
Yikes.
Project Farm "we have five fuel additives and some screenwash. Which will power the engine longest? Lets find out!"
That simple non-return gas valve is like the old Dunlop bicycle tyre valves - the ones that were repaired using the bit of tubing in a puncture repair kit that no-one (inc me) ever knew the purpose of...
We always made our soda this way until last year. The price of CO2 capsules went up and it is actually cheaper to just buy it in bottles.
Thanks Clive, went all through settings, set for stereo. Don't have any Dolby options ( older HP laptop), I can hook up an external powered speaker that will enable more gain.
Already being familiar with soda streams from the early 70s it was like a cosy chat with uncle Clive tonight. Informative and slightly boozy. Just the way I like it. Next week the correct method (with diagrams) of rolling the perfect spliff.
Are those small capsules recyclable ? A quick google reveals they're 5 times more expensive than sodastream gas, which in itself is also already a "scam".
Get a soda stream, get a conversion kit from ebay, and connect your sodastream to a big (food grade) CO2 tank (anything from 2L to 10L, must be pressurized gas, not liquid CO2) and you get your fizzy water so incredibly cheap.
You have to buy the CO2 bottle instead of licensing it (which makes it a "steep" purchase at the start), but refills are so dirt cheap you get it back in no time. You "may" be able to sell the empty bottle back at the end if you no longer want a refill.
Only disadvantage is the requirement to have the large co2 bottle close to your sodastream.
600ml sodastream bottle: about 12 Euro. (bottle under license, you get 2Euro if you return it without refilling).
10L co2 bottle (180 Euro for the bottle (yes), the 2L and 5L are obviously a cheaper, but have a more expensive refill): 25-30 Euro for a refill.
So for the cost of 20 sodastream CO2 bottles... you can get the big CO2 and get the same amount of fizzy water.
After that, you start saving 10 euro on each additional sodastream bottle you no longer need to buy.
If you use a lot of fizzy water in a day, this pays itself back in no time.
The empty steel bulbs can go into the recycling along with steel food cans, but check with your collection company/authority. Don't put full ones in.
@@AlanJenney Well with "recycling" I meant "reuse"/refill, not shipping them to china where they can melt them down into steel to make more stuff to sell to Big Clive.
If they are "waste", it's a pretty expensive way to make fizzy water. Maybe that's why Clive uses them on wine, to make it a better bargain than fizzy water :-D
i still have 2 of those, they still work great
I do remember my dad had one of those in a similar design, they were all the rage at one point. 😀 Now say cool whip.
Why are you saying it hweird?
Lumibear saying what hwierd? 😂
Martin J - AW C’MON THAT ONE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE AN H IN IT!
(There’s gonna be a bunch of people who have no clue hwhat hwe’re doing here, and another bunch of pedants who are going to be triggered because I didn’t look any of this up in hwiki quotes)
Lumibear yep. Let’s not get started on Hwill Wheaton.
Martin J that man’s name is a godsend for the joke! And Edward Woodward...
As a kid in the 50s, I remember my dad having a glass soda siphon. It was reinforced with metal straps looking like lattice. It was dad’s ‘toy’, we weren’t allowed to touch it, I guess because of the danger.
See these used in cooking shows. You can make various foams. Most interesting is you put cake batter into it without leavening and you foam it into a cup and microwave it. Instant cake and no where near thinking it was microwaved.
Supermegatight is my favorite superhero.
Its a liquid inside the capsules, it has a liquid to gas expansion of over 530x and is stored at roughly 800psi and the cap will be designed to burst at around 1300psi to vent the pressure 'safely' instead of the bottle exploding if it gets too hot.
i dont know exactly how they get the caps on the bottles but i know that they are filled at a very low temperature and they must be kept at pressure during filling as Liquid co2 cannot exist at normal pressure and that pressure must be maintained right though to the cap being fixed on otherwise the co2 will instantly boil off and so the machine must have some sort of capping mechanism that works inside the pressurised filling head.
Mr. Clive excuse me but the audio does not sound in stereo, something happens to the audio,
that sounds very .
I can't hear it with headphones
why the audio is not heard on my laptop.
I thought they were technical problems on my part but no. It is only certain videos that audio is not heard in headphones
I inform you of this event so that you take precautions and manage to modify that tectin failure.
very good channel congratulations and thanks for your time.
Your laptop probably has it's audio set to surround sound and is putting the sound out to a missing middle speaker. Try going to the audio settings and changing it to stereo.
YT is weird. I jumped from Ecuadorian spiritual cleansing to a bottle for carbonating water in no time.
Ecuadorian what? Wait, I don't even want to know.
These devices were also invaluable for 'Carry On' films and 1970s sit-coms (Vicar).
"And now I'm going to drink some carbonated wine" So Big Clive! Enjoy!
16:00 Clive "I put a little vasaline on it because I found it a bit rough at the beginning". Really Clice?
I have some sparklet bulb filling nozzles I got from a home workshop clearance of an ex. BOC chief engineer. Still haven't figured out entirely how they work.
The colder the liquid the more CO2 will be absorbed by the liquid. Beer works fine. When you shake it the liquid absorbs more CO2 and the pressure drops inside. So if its cold enough and you shake enough and left it sitting for a while, theoretically you can use more than one CO2 Capsule.
Nice to see some mechanical teardown!
Right. You can overpressure as well by attempting to carbonate a liquid which has ALREADY been carbonated, using a second cartridge.
I don't know how old it is but I have a refillable soda siphon of indeterminate age with a metal mesh enclosed glass 'bottle'. I have never filled it and pressurised it being fearful of an explosion. Hearing your comments about aged seals I'm even less inclined to waste a very expensive CO2 cartridge.
the soft rubbery substance is called sili-cone. Sili-con is a hard brittle metalloid.
as a kid we used to take these into the footy field and launch them by spiking them, some shot real high ;)