I'm so glad this was helpful for you!! I figured I've been using them all long enough now to genuinely give a good comparison for others who are considering what mixer is right for them. :)
I love my red KitchenAid Pro 700. I waited 30 years for it and I call it simply The Mixer. I was able to buy it during a really good sale at the end of the year and it has saved me so much, physically. (Unfortuntely, this came about the time I was slayed with ME/CFS and all of my energy etc evaporated.) It has a permanent place on my counter because it is beloved and also because you are right, it is heavy! So I bought a mat to slide it off of Amazon. That works perfectly! I can slide it forward and it doesn't slide anywhere else until I slide it back. I have walked away from it while it is kneading dough and come back to it in the same place. : ) It makes me smile every time I see it! That said, I have wondered why people like the Bosch? So your video was helpful for that. I do love a multipurpose kitchen tool. For now, my beloved, long-awaited red KA mixer is my multipurpose tool. But, I really appreciate the way you broke down the differences and from the perspective of having owned and used a KA for years. Thank you for that. : ) By the way, I have the top for the KA bowl that allows the adding of ingredients while mixing without flour puffing out. LOL I like it well. Perhaps that would help you too? Also, just wanted to say that I enjoy getting your emails. They are informative without being exhausting, which is important for me. You really enjoy what you do and it shines through. 🥰
Great Review. I had a Kitchen Aid Professional for several years but replaced it with the Ankarsrum 6230 in 2020. I haven't looked back. I use that for everything, and it blasts through whatever I put into it. It also has an open top.
Thank you so much. We are learning so much. Bosch is where we are leaning but finding a place to get it with all the attachments we want is the new challenge. Thank you so much for this review
I have the same KitchenAid Pro 600. Just 2 loaves of plain white bread dough seem to tax it enough. I can't imagine trying to do 4, let alone 8 loaves with it at one time. Although I've had it for probably 8 years and had no issues other than a broken stainless steel bowl which happened while kneading bread, I just ordered the Bosch to take over my bread making. Can't wait to give it a try
I have a heavy duty Cuisinart 7 quart stand mixer and just received the artiste. I love both them for very different reasons. The artiste will handle double recipe of peanut butter cookies where the stand mixer struggles a bit. I find there is a lot of washing of the artiste attachments when making cookies, 6 extra attachments compared to the stand mixer. However, the Artiste does a phenomenal job at mixing dough. I had to stop the stand mixer multiple times to hand mix or scrape the bowl when making bread dough. The artiste I didn't have to "help" it along. If I am doing a single batch of cookie dough or whipping up egg whites I will use the Cuisinart, everything else will be going into the Artiste.
I have had the Artiste ( I assume 2 syllables) but took French a few years and the e at the end can be silent, almost 8 mons. Primarily for fresh milled flour bread. To avoid killing my 2 yr old KA. Serving me well. Spent the $ I saved on an upgraded mill. Thanks for the review.
Great question! I hope some folks chime in. I know my standard kitchen aid motor died after just 1 1/2 batches of maple sugar... not bread dough, but similar. My professional KA, on the other hand, has been going strong for many years. But I personally think the Bosch is the BEST mixer for large amounts of bread dough.
That's why I'm here! I'm not sure how the KA can be so heavy and also seem to struggle so much with basic bread dough. I'm planning to get something better just for bread and then sell the KA to get a hand mixer for everything else. KA just doesn't fit my needs.
@@Mr_Dee80 yes, i hate it that you literally don't ever want to move the KA, it's so heavy, but my pro one hasn't given me any other reason to complain
I believe the Bosch Universal Plus has an 800 W motor. I love my KitchenAid Pro 600--have for several years, but it was a replacement for a Bosch-type mixer that I used for over 20 years before it died. Just purchased the Bosch Universal Plus with the 800W motor specifically to do larger batches of bread dough. Thank you for your video!!
In both UK and U.S. it's actually pronounced ar-TEEST according to the Cambridge Dictionary. Anyhow, thanks for the great comparisons! I have the Nutrimill Artiste and LOVE it, though I generally only use it for bread making. I love hearing about the ice cream maker attachment. I used to have the Cuisinart ice cream maker that had to be frozen -- and nowadays there is NEVER room in our freezer for that, and I had not realized there was something like this out there that did not have to be frozen!
@@MichelleVisser We are hoping to get one in the new year. We have a tilt head KitchenAid that just doesn't cut when I am making a large bread batch. I would like to get a Bosch.
Thank you for the info. I have had the KitchenAid 600 for about 6 years, I had to replace the gears, and it still isn't great. I will be replacing it with the Bosch, thank you for the discount code!!!!
EXCELLENT!!!! I am so happy for this review! I've been considering getting the Bosch - but then I learned about the Artiste, so then I was like, Ummm....which would be better???? THANKS FOR THE REVIEW!!!
Good review! Those must be tiny loaves LOL! I can make 4 - 8" loaves in my Bosch , only 2 fit comfortably without it climbing out the bowl in my Kitchenaid. My biggest complaint with the Kitchenaid is the paint chips off the attachment paddles. Not good.😢
I have the Ankarsrum and love it. Well build machine. I chose the ank cause the Bosch seemed a lot more plastic. But I’m sure still great machine. I have a smaller KA still love it but not for bread dough.
It does!! I was just showing it on instagram recently, explaining how I don't like foamy air-filled gunk on top of my protein shakes or lattes or mocha frappes and this keeps that from happening. Bonus, it makes your food/drink more nutrient dense too.
I imagine the kitchen aid does, but i've heard horror stories of how attachments on a kitchenaid destroy the motor over time, so I'd research that well before investing. I personally LOVE my mockmill grain mill, but i break down details on my top 3 picks in my Guide to Choosing a Grain Mill: soulyrested.com/grain-mill/ Hope that helps
Well I have the Universal Bosch just for making bread and it does a great job and with the plastic bowl a very light easy to move machine. the Kitchen aid is Ok for bread and pizza dough small batches but i use it mainly for sausage making and pasta using their attachments, I have it because it is the first machine I bought. The machine that gets the most use is my Cuisinart 11 cup machine it grinds meat for hamburger and sausage, tacos vegetables, slices vegetables perfectly When I want to make one loaf of bread, its a perfect machine it can actually make two loaves at once using five cups of flour and the mixing or kneading only takes a little over a minute, its quick, it is my second one and the first one I gave to a relative and they are still using it, its about 30 years old my second one is easily over 20 years old. I don't know if they still make them to last that long anymore. I know kitchen aid does not last that long anymore. I have had several of them. Enjoy home cooking.
True, I should have explained (I will have to do another video eventually)... the bosch is my go-to for making a large quanity of bread. It's amazing with fresh flour. But if I'm just doing one loaf of bread (or anything of just a small to average size) I always use the kitchen aid. The bosch is definitely made for large loads.
Bosch and nurtimill is also half the weight, of the Kitchenaid , the reason I got rid of my kitchenaid. There are many benefits to the both the nutrimill and Bosch , the major advantage is counter space and low profile, plus the weight is so nice if you simply want to take it off you counter and store in your pantry.
I actually like the artiste plastic bowl, it’s so easy to clean and light. I was afraid it would easily scratch but it doesn’t. I also have a kitchenaid and I find that the stainless steel bowl is harder to clean and scratches easily.
Hi great review!! I have bosh and kitchen aid.. I am currently looking at Ankarsrum..From a chefs perspective it looks like a winner.. A huge learning experience though.. Bosh would be second for me. very good mixer.. Lochness Scottish Highlands..
They are a Swedish company from what I have seen on line? They have been in production from the sixties with little change to to basis designe other than colour changes as it relates to kitchen fashion and aesthetics. Lochness Scottish Highlands..
@@MichelleVisserThey are Swedish made, all metal gears, etc. Electrolux introduced them in 1940. I have one we bought 25 years ago sold under the name Electrolux Assistent. They have been sold under the names: Electrolux Assistant, Magic Mill DLX, Verona Assistant, and now Ankarsrum. I never mastered bread making in it and was ready to sell and go to the Bosch but these folks commenting have me motivated to master it!!
@@Longfamily3 i love learning the history of this mixer! (thank you for sharing!) and YAY I'm so glad to hear you're motivated to master it! I would love it if you keep me posted and let me know when you have made your first "perfect" loaf :)
The Bosch either has a 500 wats or 800 in comes in both. Most commonly 500. I prefer the Bosch over KitchenAid I just like the way it works better that it doesn’t have the head. I like the cover and the ease of adding the ingredients. I love it for bread making. The knead attachment is way better than KitchenAid. The Bosch bowl is 6.5 cups. I sold my KitchenAid. I would like to add that you can buy a sliding mat for your KitchenAid to easily move it around.
The Bosch Universal Plus mixer is now rated at 500 watts instead of 800 watts because the Underwriters Laboratory (UL) changed how they rate motors sold in the U.S. market:
Kitchen Aid for a pro kitchen? Please! I burnt out 2 KAs just making bagel dough./ That had to stop. So I tried an Ankarsum which was way better but also way to heavy. So I went to the Bosch and now make dough loads that would destroy a KA. S KA for a pro kitchen... Don't make me laugh.
Not sure you understood me... I too burnt out a standard KA easily but have been very hard on my KA PROFESSIONAL model and have been happy with it for years. But I've heard so much greatness about the Ankarsum! Very interesting that you've used all three and chose the Bosch. Good to know.
The middle one is a Bosch. The white one is the Artiste (also made by Bosch) And I love my professional kitchenaid. The Bosch "wins" in my book when making a double batch of bread though. @@genevieve730
Bosch is smarter option, I’ve used the Ankarsrum. It’s extremely well built and looks great But the Bosch is better to use if not making huge quantities (it can still do large amounts) and attachments are better value. Ankarsrum is a status item of sorts and is a great machine, just a bit like Apple Vs Android devices.
I don’t mean to argue with you, but the artiste mixer is made by Nutrimill, not Bosch. Also, the Bosch is 800 watts, not the 500 you mentioned in your video. I own a Bosch Universal, so I can speak of its quality.
The wattage of the motor is irrelevant because of how the gearing works. An ankarsrum has bags of torque due to its motor being direct drive Vs Kitchenaid using gearing system making it inherently inferior. Bosch is sort of in between, a belt drives the main rotor from the motor that is housed under the place the blender attaches.
@@MichelleVisser it’s really key to why ank and Bosch last so long, their motors are rarely being put under enough stress to do damage. The kitchen aid has a sacrificial plastic gear designed to break when doing things it’s not supposed to, like huge quantities of dough. Due to how dough hook on KA works it also produces a start stop force which isn’t good for a motor. Imagine a car revving to go short distances in heavy traffic.
so interesting, to a non-engineering mind... thanks for explaining. So i guess it's amazing my KA has been such a great workhorse for me!@@cannibalholocaust3015
Wow, after you went on about the wonderfulness of the Bosch Universal, you move on to the Kitchenaid Pro 600 and declare it the best, for those ready for a "professional" kitchen? And offer no back up for that statement? America's Test Kitchen recommended that mixer WITH RESERVATIONS, rating it lower than less expensive Kitchenaid mixers - they were not impressed. From my research, among these 3 mixers, the Bosch is the way to go for all the reasons you covered in this video, hands down. BTW, I own a Bosch Compact (amazingly light and powerful!) and a highly regarded/sought Hobart era Kitchenaid K5SS. The only Whirlpool era Kitchenaids I might consider are the direct current models. But thank you for pointing out the Bosch Universal ice cream maker attachment that doesn't require pre-freezing! That Bosch Universal is going on my wish list, next to the Ank.
I didn't refer to any outside testing or opinions, I meant for this video to solely be my thoughts and opinions after using all 3 mixers in my own kitchen. But yes, the fact that the ice cream maker doesn't have a bowl that requires freezer space is a huge bonus! I genuinely wish I had access to an ank to include that in my comparisons as well!
Sure, I agree, if you have the money to invest, but I was assuming that a lot of folks just starting out are looking for a decent mixer at a great price...
My mother thought that, too. She got the Universal, with both bowls, and most of the attachments, too. The 1970's. Because of that, most of my siblings have Bosch mixers. My only holdout sibling, my big brother borrowed my Bosch, when his KA was BACK AT the repair shop AGAIN! (He did NOT want to return it.) steve
@@pkguy3 I had remembered hearing something odd like this a year or so ago, but couldn't remember the details. So now I'm confused again (like I was when I heard it the first time) Does this mean the kitchenaid pro motor is stronger I assume?
@@MichelleVisser Thing is you cannot go by wattage alone. All the other components in the machine and how they work play into it. In a Kitchenaid and other planetary mixers there are a lot of gears between the motor and the dough hook which there are not in a Bosch or Ank. All those gears (which need greasing etc) use up power just to move them before they even get to the bowl. Plus just the method of how the Bosch spins in the bowl uses less force than a planetary mixer type. A lot more of the power of a planetary mixer is used up just making the mechanism work in comparison basically.
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I have watched so many reviews on these and this was my favorite. You know your stuff and it shows! Straightforward with personal experience
I'm so glad this was helpful for you!! I figured I've been using them all long enough now to genuinely give a good comparison for others who are considering what mixer is right for them. :)
I love my red KitchenAid Pro 700. I waited 30 years for it and I call it simply The Mixer. I was able to buy it during a really good sale at the end of the year and it has saved me so much, physically. (Unfortuntely, this came about the time I was slayed with ME/CFS and all of my energy etc evaporated.) It has a permanent place on my counter because it is beloved and also because you are right, it is heavy! So I bought a mat to slide it off of Amazon. That works perfectly! I can slide it forward and it doesn't slide anywhere else until I slide it back. I have walked away from it while it is kneading dough and come back to it in the same place. : ) It makes me smile every time I see it!
That said, I have wondered why people like the Bosch? So your video was helpful for that. I do love a multipurpose kitchen tool.
For now, my beloved, long-awaited red KA mixer is my multipurpose tool. But, I really appreciate the way you broke down the differences and from the perspective of having owned and used a KA for years. Thank you for that. : )
By the way, I have the top for the KA bowl that allows the adding of ingredients while mixing without flour puffing out. LOL I like it well. Perhaps that would help you too?
Also, just wanted to say that I enjoy getting your emails. They are informative without being exhausting, which is important for me. You really enjoy what you do and it shines through.
🥰
Great Review. I had a Kitchen Aid Professional for several years but replaced it with the Ankarsrum 6230 in 2020. I haven't looked back. I use that for everything, and it blasts through whatever I put into it. It also has an open top.
awesome!
Excellent comparison thank you. I am going to purchase the Artisan. I already have the Professional 600 Kitchenaid.
I'm so glad it helped! It's even on a great sale right now! collabs.shop/qimmko use code SOULYRESTED to save even $20 more :)
Thank you so much. We are learning so much. Bosch is where we are leaning but finding a place to get it with all the attachments we want is the new challenge. Thank you so much for this review
Did you choose a new mixer?? Thought I'd tell you the bosch is currently on a GREAT sale through Mother's Day :)
@@MichelleVisser thank you so much. I have this in my cart.
@@122593chico whoo hoo! It's a great mixer. Use code SOULYRESTED and you can stack the discounts... take an extra $20 off the sale price. :)
I have the same KitchenAid Pro 600. Just 2 loaves of plain white bread dough seem to tax it enough. I can't imagine trying to do 4, let alone 8 loaves with it at one time. Although I've had it for probably 8 years and had no issues other than a broken stainless steel bowl which happened while kneading bread, I just ordered the Bosch to take over my bread making. Can't wait to give it a try
oh you're going to LOVE the bosch for your bread making! Stop back and tell me what you think!
I have a heavy duty Cuisinart 7 quart stand mixer and just received the artiste. I love both them for very different reasons. The artiste will handle double recipe of peanut butter cookies where the stand mixer struggles a bit. I find there is a lot of washing of the artiste attachments when making cookies, 6 extra attachments compared to the stand mixer. However, the Artiste does a phenomenal job at mixing dough. I had to stop the stand mixer multiple times to hand mix or scrape the bowl when making bread dough. The artiste I didn't have to "help" it along. If I am doing a single batch of cookie dough or whipping up egg whites I will use the Cuisinart, everything else will be going into the Artiste.
I have had the Artiste ( I assume 2 syllables) but took French a few years and the e at the end can be silent, almost 8 mons. Primarily for fresh milled flour bread. To avoid killing my 2 yr old KA. Serving me well. Spent the $ I saved on an upgraded mill. Thanks for the review.
good to know!
Who else is here comparing because kitchenaid gears get noisy and wear out making bread dough, and you need something better?
Great question! I hope some folks chime in. I know my standard kitchen aid motor died after just 1 1/2 batches of maple sugar... not bread dough, but similar. My professional KA, on the other hand, has been going strong for many years. But I personally think the Bosch is the BEST mixer for large amounts of bread dough.
That's why I'm here! I'm not sure how the KA can be so heavy and also seem to struggle so much with basic bread dough. I'm planning to get something better just for bread and then sell the KA to get a hand mixer for everything else. KA just doesn't fit my needs.
@@Mr_Dee80 yes, i hate it that you literally don't ever want to move the KA, it's so heavy, but my pro one hasn't given me any other reason to complain
That’s why I’m here, I’ve had my KA 11 months and it died today while I was making bread. 😢
Thinking towards the Bosch.
@@TamiBowden wow! Yeah, KA isn't cut out for the heavy work. I highly recommend the Bosch for bread. It's great at double loaves and even more
I believe the Bosch Universal Plus has an 800 W motor. I love my KitchenAid Pro 600--have for several years, but it was a replacement for a Bosch-type mixer that I used for over 20 years before it died. Just purchased the Bosch Universal Plus with the 800W motor specifically to do larger batches of bread dough. Thank you for your video!!
yes! the bosch is great for large batches of dough. 💕
Where did you find one with 800W I can only find 500 w.
The Bosch with the stainless steel is 1000w, the same model with the plastic bowl is 800w ...
@@supermangomania oh wow! interesting
@@supermangomania Not anymore. The new ones only have 500 watt.
In both UK and U.S. it's actually pronounced ar-TEEST according to the Cambridge Dictionary. Anyhow, thanks for the great comparisons! I have the Nutrimill Artiste and LOVE it, though I generally only use it for bread making. I love hearing about the ice cream maker attachment. I used to have the Cuisinart ice cream maker that had to be frozen -- and nowadays there is NEVER room in our freezer for that, and I had not realized there was something like this out there that did not have to be frozen!
ohhh, good to know :)
and YES to the ice cream maker that doesn't use freezer space!!
can you make a small
1 1/2 lbs dough in the Bosch?
Thank you, this is a great product review. I really appreciate it, down to earth, practical and helpful.
I'm so glad it was helpful! Are you making a mixer purchase soon?
@@MichelleVisser We are hoping to get one in the new year. We have a tilt head KitchenAid that just doesn't cut when I am making a large bread batch. I would like to get a Bosch.
@@meginghram3556 exciting! If amazing bread dough is your goal, I feel like you absolutely can't go wrong with the Bosch! :)
Thank you for the info. I have had the KitchenAid 600 for about 6 years, I had to replace the gears, and it still isn't great. I will be replacing it with the Bosch, thank you for the discount code!!!!
Great information thank you! It sucks that the nutrimill isn't in Thailand where I live
that's a huge bummer :(
EXCELLENT!!!! I am so happy for this review! I've been considering getting the Bosch - but then I learned about the Artiste, so then I was like, Ummm....which would be better???? THANKS FOR THE REVIEW!!!
oh good! did this help you choose? (There are links for all in the description btw :) )
@@MichelleVisser Yes, I think I will stick with my original idea and go with the Bosch!
@@kiriaioulia I'm so glad I could help a little. Hope you love it!
Good review! Those must be tiny loaves LOL! I can make 4 - 8" loaves in my Bosch , only 2 fit comfortably without it climbing out the bowl in my Kitchenaid. My biggest complaint with the Kitchenaid is the paint chips off the attachment paddles. Not good.😢
oh, wait, off of the silver paddles?? (and yes, they must be TINY loaves of bread, but I figured still worth sharing as a reference to compare :) )
Thank you. This was very helpful.
I'm so glad! Did you see the AMAZING sale currently going on?? My code SOULYRESTED can even be stacked for more savings!
I have the Ankarsrum and love it. Well build machine. I chose the ank cause the Bosch seemed a lot more plastic. But I’m sure still great machine. I have a smaller KA still love it but not for bread dough.
this all confirms alot of my own thoughts :)
There is a black Bosch that has a metal bowl but also you can buy a metal bowl for $149!
The vacuum pump likely helps with foaming during blending.
It does!! I was just showing it on instagram recently, explaining how I don't like foamy air-filled gunk on top of my protein shakes or lattes or mocha frappes and this keeps that from happening. Bonus, it makes your food/drink more nutrient dense too.
Do any of these have a wheat/grain grinding attachment?
I imagine the kitchen aid does, but i've heard horror stories of how attachments on a kitchenaid destroy the motor over time, so I'd research that well before investing. I personally LOVE my mockmill grain mill, but i break down details on my top 3 picks in my Guide to Choosing a Grain Mill: soulyrested.com/grain-mill/ Hope that helps
The Bosch stainless steel bowl can also be used on the Artiste.
ooohhh good to know! i never once thought of trying it!
Thanks for the excellent video. Your hair is really beautiful. Greetings from Evergreen, Montana, USA.
awww, thank you... it gets more gray every day :) And I'm glad the video was helpful
Well I have the Universal Bosch just for making bread and it does a great job and with the plastic bowl a very light easy to move machine. the Kitchen aid is Ok for bread and pizza dough small batches but i use it mainly for sausage making and pasta using their attachments, I have it because it is the first machine I bought. The machine that gets the most use is my Cuisinart 11 cup machine it grinds meat for hamburger and sausage, tacos vegetables, slices vegetables perfectly When I want to make one loaf of bread, its a perfect machine it can actually make two loaves at once using five cups of flour and the mixing or kneading only takes a little over a minute, its quick, it is my second one and the first one I gave to a relative and they are still using it, its about 30 years old my second one is easily over 20 years old. I don't know if they still make them to last that long anymore. I know kitchen aid does not last that long anymore. I have had several of them. Enjoy home cooking.
True, I should have explained (I will have to do another video eventually)... the bosch is my go-to for making a large quanity of bread. It's amazing with fresh flour. But if I'm just doing one loaf of bread (or anything of just a small to average size) I always use the kitchen aid. The bosch is definitely made for large loads.
Bosch and nurtimill is also half the weight, of the Kitchenaid , the reason I got rid of my kitchenaid. There are many benefits to the both the nutrimill and Bosch , the major advantage is counter space and low profile, plus the weight is so nice if you simply want to take it off you counter and store in your pantry.
for sure!!! if i was going to be moving my mixer often I would NEVER choose the kitchenaid
What is the watts on the Bosch?
@@mayshackthank you for that information. Very interesting on the standard change.
I actually like the artiste plastic bowl, it’s so easy to clean and light. I was afraid it would easily scratch but it doesn’t. I also have a kitchenaid and I find that the stainless steel bowl is harder to clean and scratches easily.
interesting.
Hi great review!! I have bosh and kitchen aid.. I am currently looking at Ankarsrum..From a chefs perspective it looks like a winner.. A huge learning experience though.. Bosh would be second for me. very good mixer.. Lochness Scottish Highlands..
How long has Ankarsrum been making mixers?
They are a Swedish company from what I have seen on line? They have been in production from the sixties with little change to to basis designe other than colour changes as it relates to kitchen fashion and aesthetics. Lochness Scottish Highlands..
@@neilmunro6683 i have seen them and would love to try one. I'll have to research them more. ty!
@@MichelleVisserThey are Swedish made, all metal gears, etc. Electrolux introduced them in 1940. I have one we bought 25 years ago sold under the name Electrolux Assistent. They have been sold under the names: Electrolux Assistant, Magic Mill DLX, Verona Assistant, and now Ankarsrum. I never mastered bread making in it and was ready to sell and go to the Bosch but these folks commenting have me motivated to master it!!
@@Longfamily3 i love learning the history of this mixer! (thank you for sharing!) and YAY I'm so glad to hear you're motivated to master it! I would love it if you keep me posted and let me know when you have made your first "perfect" loaf :)
You can buy a stainless bowl now for the Artiste.
yes, someone just told me last week that I can use my bosch stainless steel bowl on the artiste! I had no idea!
There is a stainless steel bowl for the nutrimill Artiste that can purchased
yes, someone else told me this... I didn't know this!
thanks so much for the information!!!
hope it was helpful! Are you researching to buy a new mixer?
The Bosch either has a 500 wats or 800 in comes in both. Most commonly 500. I prefer the Bosch over KitchenAid I just like the way it works better that it doesn’t have the head. I like the cover and the ease of adding the ingredients. I love it for bread making. The knead attachment is way better than KitchenAid. The Bosch bowl is 6.5 cups. I sold my KitchenAid. I would like to add that you can buy a sliding mat for your KitchenAid to easily move it around.
honestly i never thought of looking into a sliding mat... great point!
The Bosch Universal Plus mixer is now rated at 500 watts instead of 800 watts because the Underwriters Laboratory (UL) changed how they rate motors sold in the U.S. market:
Kitchen Aid for a pro kitchen? Please! I burnt out 2 KAs just making bagel dough./ That had to stop. So I tried an Ankarsum which was way better but also way to heavy. So I went to the Bosch and now make dough loads that would destroy a KA. S KA for a pro kitchen... Don't make me laugh.
Not sure you understood me... I too burnt out a standard KA easily but have been very hard on my KA PROFESSIONAL model and have been happy with it for years. But I've heard so much greatness about the Ankarsum! Very interesting that you've used all three and chose the Bosch. Good to know.
Why do you keep saying Bosch when you are touching the middle mixer? The Bosch is far superior to KitchenAid.
The middle one is a Bosch. The white one is the Artiste (also made by Bosch) And I love my professional kitchenaid. The Bosch "wins" in my book when making a double batch of bread though.
@@genevieve730
Bosch is smarter option, I’ve used the Ankarsrum. It’s extremely well built and looks great But the Bosch is better to use if not making huge quantities (it can still do large amounts) and attachments are better value. Ankarsrum is a status item of sorts and is a great machine, just a bit like Apple Vs Android devices.
I don’t mean to argue with you, but the artiste mixer is made by Nutrimill, not Bosch. Also, the Bosch is 800 watts, not the 500 you mentioned in your video. I own a Bosch Universal, so I can speak of its quality.
The wattage of the motor is irrelevant because of how the gearing works. An ankarsrum has bags of torque due to its motor being direct drive Vs Kitchenaid using gearing system making it inherently inferior. Bosch is sort of in between, a belt drives the main rotor from the motor that is housed under the place the blender attaches.
fascinating. thanks for sharing
@@MichelleVisser it’s really key to why ank and Bosch last so long, their motors are rarely being put under enough stress to do damage. The kitchen aid has a sacrificial plastic gear designed to break when doing things it’s not supposed to, like huge quantities of dough. Due to how dough hook on KA works it also produces a start stop force which isn’t good for a motor. Imagine a car revving to go short distances in heavy traffic.
so interesting, to a non-engineering mind... thanks for explaining. So i guess it's amazing my KA has been such a great workhorse for me!@@cannibalholocaust3015
Wow, after you went on about the wonderfulness of the Bosch Universal, you move on to the Kitchenaid Pro 600 and declare it the best, for those ready for a "professional" kitchen? And offer no back up for that statement? America's Test Kitchen recommended that mixer WITH RESERVATIONS, rating it lower than less expensive Kitchenaid mixers - they were not impressed. From my research, among these 3 mixers, the Bosch is the way to go for all the reasons you covered in this video, hands down. BTW, I own a Bosch Compact (amazingly light and powerful!) and a highly regarded/sought Hobart era Kitchenaid K5SS. The only Whirlpool era Kitchenaids I might consider are the direct current models. But thank you for pointing out the Bosch Universal ice cream maker attachment that doesn't require pre-freezing! That Bosch Universal is going on my wish list, next to the Ank.
I didn't refer to any outside testing or opinions, I meant for this video to solely be my thoughts and opinions after using all 3 mixers in my own kitchen. But yes, the fact that the ice cream maker doesn't have a bowl that requires freezer space is a huge bonus! I genuinely wish I had access to an ank to include that in my comparisons as well!
I think if I was starting out with a mixer I would get a better one so I didn’t have to replace it down the road
Sure, I agree, if you have the money to invest, but I was assuming that a lot of folks just starting out are looking for a decent mixer at a great price...
My mother thought that, too. She got the Universal,
with both bowls, and most of the attachments, too.
The 1970's. Because of that, most of my siblings
have Bosch mixers. My only holdout sibling, my big
brother borrowed my Bosch, when his KA was BACK
AT the repair shop AGAIN! (He did NOT want to return
it.)
steve
interesting :)
@@steveskouson9620
Bosch Universal Plus
800 WATT
Great review! The company needs to tell people how to pronounce their product's name :)
so glad you found it helpful (and yes!)
Ankarsrum voted top mixer @ Americas test kitchen.
i hear really good things about it, but of course it's a high price point. If I had it in my budget, I'd have one and would have included it too :)
Bosch is a 1200 WT motor
Your Bosch is an 800w motor.
oh, good to know. I have a query into the company to find out; couldn't find the details online anywhere.
Actually no. It is rated at 500 watts now. Same motor but the way they rate wattage was changed.
@@pkguy3 I had remembered hearing something odd like this a year or so ago, but couldn't remember the details. So now I'm confused again (like I was when I heard it the first time) Does this mean the kitchenaid pro motor is stronger I assume?
@@MichelleVisser Thing is you cannot go by wattage alone. All the other components in the machine and how they work play into it. In a Kitchenaid and other planetary mixers there are a lot of gears between the motor and the dough hook which there are not in a Bosch or Ank. All those gears (which need greasing etc) use up power just to move them before they even get to the bowl. Plus just the method of how the Bosch spins in the bowl uses less force than a planetary mixer type. A lot more of the power of a planetary mixer is used up just making the mechanism work in comparison basically.
@@pkguy3 fascinating. Thank you!
Bosch has 1.000 W.