Wanna know what happens with left spin? How to play the safety - and even more? Then check the bonus video for this lesson. It's a more personal one-on-one, relaxed coaching experience: everything available on Patreon 👉 www.patreon.com/posts/90900367 Hope to see you there! 👋
The old me would've slow rolled it, but now I would go around. Firmer strokes are so much more relieable during pressure. Also, no throw, no skid, no swerve... Great stuff, man. Keep it up!
Slow rolling definitely adds problems to your game and should only be done on shorter shots for position. Seen a lot of old folks play that type of stroke and it works up until you put too much spin induced throw on the ball and it hits wrong where playing low center or low right/left and a solid stroke you can be more accurate and consistent.
I almost always bank those because scared stiff of scratching. *bank with stun-forward with speed so you leave the rock on/near the foot rail, and if you miss, leaves lots of green for the other guy. No pressure! everybody's watching!
Thanks! We hear a lot about making the “percentage play”, but we don’t know precisely what that means, it depends so much on the situation. Your concrete examples help build the knowledge base. So often it comes down to a decision between easier shot for trickier shape vs easier shape for trickier shot - not always easy to evaluate under pressure.
You go with what you know you can make, and establish that plan beforehand. If you can make the stroke shot, and get your position better, do that. If you can slow roll it to ensure that you make the 8, and accept a bit more difficult shot on the 9, do that. You do talk about percentages, but the percentages also boil down to what each player has practiced more, and has more confidence in himself to make. The only "right" or "wrong" shot, is the best shot that you know you can make at the given time.
I agree with your point when it comes to going with what you know you can make and feeling most comfortable with. I always tell my students, when they are in competition, the right shot is the one they know they can pull off and just feel. However, if you want to develop as a player, you have to extend your repertoire of shots. Unfortunately, I've encountered many players with a mindset like: "I don't like this shot, I don't like that shot, I always miss that kind of shot." But instead of practicing those shots, they decide to always just stick with the ones they already know. But often those shots are "wrong," or in other words, have lower percentages overall. In this particular example, once you are able to perform both shots, the one where you are stroking the ball will just have higher percentages.
@@Sharivari True, I didn't bring that up. That's why you try new things and develop them in practice so you can know more and have more options when the shot comes up in match play. Being able to recognize all the options is key as well, as there might always be another option you never thought about. However, when it does come up in match play, that's not the time to be trying something new. I was just referring to when the shot came up in the match, not all the practice outside of it. 😅
Playing on slow rolling bar tables I would slow roll it especially since I'm more comfortable shooting it that way already but when I play on a fast table my playing changes to the table conditions so I can see a around the table shot being beneficial too
@@Sharivari Sharivari, can you challenge Joe Rogan to a set and film it for your channel? I think he'd take your challenge as he's such a die-hard pool fan and an excellent player.
I’m a big believer in letting your stroke out over rolling them in…just remember that the thinner the cut the more energy stays with the cue ball so you don’t have to strike the cue ball that firm to go around the houses on a quarter ball hit…feel and touch should eventually develop and increase your level of positional play if you learn to trust your stroke and just LET IT OUT!
I know that reality is not the same as a simulation but the PC shooterspool simulator has quite acceptable physics. Taking into account this (I will try it in real time), I have tested several 9-foot tables with Simonis 860 (medium), 960 (fast) and 760 (very fast) fabric, gray and blue. With 860 it has been impossible for me to leave the cue ball exactly where you left it. However, with the blue fabric it has been much easier for me. With the other fabrics it was easier because they are faster and it is easier to calculate the power. In the table simulation, the one that has performed best has been the predator, the prp and the reason. Therefore, it depends a lot on the fabric and risers of the table we play on. Although it is generally more convenient if it is far away but in that area of the table than when we pull hard and it goes beyond the line you say.
The slow roll is a killer! But it takes players quite awhile to realize that because it feels so much more comfortable, and easier to control, until you think about everything that happens during the shot.
Finally someone noticed 😁 I have done this with several players in the past, but here I thought lets just put the greatest on the wall while I am explaining.
But that long cut on the 8 is a shot that comes up so often and the one that I’m least likely to make consistently, so if there’s a tip for knowing where the ghost ball should be, that would be great
I always end up a slightly worse player after watching these - not playing my game properly, and not playing your game properly! I have to consciously let go, to play with freedom again, then I find I've absorbed something, somewhere and I'm a little better, or at least more aware of why a shot has failed or succeeded. It's a slow process for me, but the improvement, when it comes, is real.
Whenever you implement something new into your game, you will automatically take a step back. This is why when competing you don't worry about what you're doing wrong, what you supposed to do. You do what you can. Afterwards you analyze, go to the practice table and try to make it a natural part of your game. It takes a while, but it will pay off!
Is there anyway before instructing on any shot you do, that you can show an over head view of exactly where on the table the balls are so then we can recreate the exact shot. Thanks.
Hard to explain in the comments. However, thanks to your question I covered it in the bonus lesson for this video: www.patreon.com/posts/90900367?pr=true
You mean shooting the eight ball into the other corner pocket? Unfortunately, that would be much more difficult and not offer any value to the position play part.
Just wanna ask, when u shoot the ball are u imagining something or just shoot at it? Sometimes to focus on the ball ruins the whole shots and impacts on misses
question about the final pot in this video - why do people always draw that shot? i know i can draw it past the scratch too but why risk that instead of roll it? wouldnt the natural roll just hit the top rail? what's the benefit of risking drawing it past the corner pocket scratch?
Because you always have more control over your stroke when drawing or stopping the cue ball. It's basically the same as on the shot on the eight. You want to make it with authority, not roll it in.
@@Sharivari can't you do so with top spin too, without slow rolling it in? i guess if you hit it at that pace with top, it will stun first and maybe go towards the scratch? with draw, you never risk that.
@@Kenji917 Top spin is not that "natural", since it wants to create backspin on the object ball because of the gearing. This can result in a slight jump at contact, which can lead to more cut induced throw and in worst cases skids/kicks.
@@PoolProblems ahh yes! finally the answer i've been looking for. i always thought top or bottom would reduce cut induced throw because of the spinning cueball (not letting it "cling" as much) but i never thought of top causing potential skips when it transfers bottom onto the OB. thank you!!
@@Kenji917 happy to help. So to sum up: The most natural way to make the money ball is draw with a touch of outside spin. The outside spin is to get smooth gearing, avoiding cut induced spin onto the object ball.
Sharivari, can you challenge Joe Rogan to a set and film it for your channel? I think he'd take your challenge as he's such a die-hard pool fan and an excellent player.
Wanna know what happens with left spin? How to play the safety - and even more? Then check the bonus video for this lesson. It's a more personal one-on-one, relaxed coaching experience: everything available on Patreon 👉 www.patreon.com/posts/90900367
Hope to see you there! 👋
The old me would've slow rolled it, but now I would go around. Firmer strokes are so much more relieable during pressure. Also, no throw, no skid, no swerve... Great stuff, man. Keep it up!
Slow rolling definitely adds problems to your game and should only be done on shorter shots for position. Seen a lot of old folks play that type of stroke and it works up until you put too much spin induced throw on the ball and it hits wrong where playing low center or low right/left and a solid stroke you can be more accurate and consistent.
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I like the concept of a "feel good stroke." It makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for the great content.
Glad to help!
I almost always bank those because scared stiff of scratching. *bank with stun-forward with speed so you leave the rock on/near the foot rail, and if you miss, leaves lots of green for the other guy. No pressure! everybody's watching!
Thanks! We hear a lot about making the “percentage play”, but we don’t know precisely what that means, it depends so much on the situation.
Your concrete examples help build the knowledge base. So often it comes down to a decision between easier shot for trickier shape vs easier shape for trickier shot - not always easy to evaluate under pressure.
One of my biggest problems currently in pool. Is I am over analyzing shots. Looking for perfect position.
This video helped a lot.
Another great installment in the “make pool make sense” series.
I am a hack but your logical thought process and multiple options is helping me think strategically beyond just trying to make a shot. Thanks!
Great explanation about speed and pathing, and better to be in line than to cross the line.
Excellent breakdown of the multiple approaches shooting this angle.
You go with what you know you can make, and establish that plan beforehand.
If you can make the stroke shot, and get your position better, do that.
If you can slow roll it to ensure that you make the 8, and accept a bit more difficult shot on the 9, do that.
You do talk about percentages, but the percentages also boil down to what each player has practiced more, and has more confidence in himself to make.
The only "right" or "wrong" shot, is the best shot that you know you can make at the given time.
I agree with your point when it comes to going with what you know you can make and feeling most comfortable with. I always tell my students, when they are in competition, the right shot is the one they know they can pull off and just feel. However, if you want to develop as a player, you have to extend your repertoire of shots. Unfortunately, I've encountered many players with a mindset like: "I don't like this shot, I don't like that shot, I always miss that kind of shot." But instead of practicing those shots, they decide to always just stick with the ones they already know. But often those shots are "wrong," or in other words, have lower percentages overall. In this particular example, once you are able to perform both shots, the one where you are stroking the ball will just have higher percentages.
@@Sharivari True, I didn't bring that up. That's why you try new things and develop them in practice so you can know more and have more options when the shot comes up in match play. Being able to recognize all the options is key as well, as there might always be another option you never thought about.
However, when it does come up in match play, that's not the time to be trying something new. I was just referring to when the shot came up in the match, not all the practice outside of it. 😅
Playing on slow rolling bar tables I would slow roll it especially since I'm more comfortable shooting it that way already but when I play on a fast table my playing changes to the table conditions so I can see a around the table shot being beneficial too
Sir you're an awesome teacher. That's the champion maker lesson like under pressure shot like this. Keep going ❤
Thanks man!
@@Sharivari Sharivari, can you challenge Joe Rogan to a set and film it for your channel? I think he'd take your challenge as he's such a die-hard pool fan and an excellent player.
Great video Shari !!!!! Something we learning that we didn't think was important
I’m a big believer in letting your stroke out over rolling them in…just remember that the thinner the cut the more energy stays with the cue ball so you don’t have to strike the cue ball that firm to go around the houses on a quarter ball hit…feel and touch should eventually develop and increase your level of positional play if you learn to trust your stroke and just LET IT OUT!
Excellent tactical video!
Best teacher
I know that reality is not the same as a simulation but the PC shooterspool simulator has quite acceptable physics. Taking into account this (I will try it in real time), I have tested several 9-foot tables with Simonis 860 (medium), 960 (fast) and 760 (very fast) fabric, gray and blue. With 860 it has been impossible for me to leave the cue ball exactly where you left it. However, with the blue fabric it has been much easier for me. With the other fabrics it was easier because they are faster and it is easier to calculate the power. In the table simulation, the one that has performed best has been the predator, the prp and the reason. Therefore, it depends a lot on the fabric and risers of the table we play on. Although it is generally more convenient if it is far away but in that area of the table than when we pull hard and it goes beyond the line you say.
The slow roll is a killer! But it takes players quite awhile to realize that because it feels so much more comfortable, and easier to control, until you think about everything that happens during the shot.
I felt crazy for a moment because of the "picture" on the wall next to Rick n morty.. 😂
Good explanation tho.
Thanks
Finally someone noticed 😁 I have done this with several players in the past, but here I thought lets just put the greatest on the wall while I am explaining.
But that long cut on the 8 is a shot that comes up so often and the one that I’m least likely to make consistently, so if there’s a tip for knowing where the ghost ball should be, that would be great
Check side! And smash it.!
I always end up a slightly worse player after watching these - not playing my game properly, and not playing your game properly!
I have to consciously let go, to play with freedom again, then I find I've absorbed something, somewhere and I'm a little better, or at least more aware of why a shot has failed or succeeded. It's a slow process for me, but the improvement, when it comes, is real.
Whenever you implement something new into your game, you will automatically take a step back. This is why when competing you don't worry about what you're doing wrong, what you supposed to do. You do what you can. Afterwards you analyze, go to the practice table and try to make it a natural part of your game. It takes a while, but it will pay off!
One step backward to move two steps forward.
When you hit center ball at that speed, does the cue ball gain any forward roll?
Is there anyway before instructing on any shot you do, that you can show an over head view of exactly where on the table the balls are so then we can recreate the exact shot. Thanks.
That's what I do, scratch every time!
A question Mr Sharivari am I suppose to hold the very end of cue stick I see alot of pro players hold that so I need your opinion
Check this: th-cam.com/video/CbIIObQNfGc/w-d-xo.html
To me i don’t know why but i would play extremely left spin trying to kill the speed with tow rails position
only problem is that you are coming close to scratching in the middle pocket. Won't be such a "feel good" stroke then.
When you are ready to take the shot, are you looking at the cue ball or the object ball. Thanks
Beforehand I am switching between object ball and cue ball. On my final swing I am looking at the cue ball.
@Sharivari thank you for the reply. I have been watching and learning from your videos. They are great and the quality is excellent.
Can you use some left and shallow the angle back off end rail?
You can, but will often leave yourself stacked on the 9 and will need a heavy cut on it still
Hard to explain in the comments. However, thanks to your question I covered it in the bonus lesson for this video: www.patreon.com/posts/90900367?pr=true
What about a pure low spin(or a hair of right) and aiming for the other corner?
You mean shooting the eight ball into the other corner pocket? Unfortunately, that would be much more difficult and not offer any value to the position play part.
Yup I’m in the 95%
What size table are you using?
9ft
Just wanna ask, when u shoot the ball are u imagining something or just shoot at it? Sometimes to focus on the ball ruins the whole shots and impacts on misses
I think that's the right video for you: th-cam.com/video/OzlbfqSd-fY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uY1l-IUIxEnthcMQ
question about the final pot in this video - why do people always draw that shot? i know i can draw it past the scratch too but why risk that instead of roll it? wouldnt the natural roll just hit the top rail? what's the benefit of risking drawing it past the corner pocket scratch?
Because you always have more control over your stroke when drawing or stopping the cue ball. It's basically the same as on the shot on the eight. You want to make it with authority, not roll it in.
@@Sharivari can't you do so with top spin too, without slow rolling it in? i guess if you hit it at that pace with top, it will stun first and maybe go towards the scratch? with draw, you never risk that.
@@Kenji917 Top spin is not that "natural", since it wants to create backspin on the object ball because of the gearing. This can result in a slight jump at contact, which can lead to more cut induced throw and in worst cases skids/kicks.
@@PoolProblems ahh yes! finally the answer i've been looking for. i always thought top or bottom would reduce cut induced throw because of the spinning cueball (not letting it "cling" as much) but i never thought of top causing potential skips when it transfers bottom onto the OB. thank you!!
@@Kenji917 happy to help. So to sum up: The most natural way to make the money ball is draw with a touch of outside spin. The outside spin is to get smooth gearing, avoiding cut induced spin onto the object ball.
Do you sell books about billiards on shopee?
I haven't written a book yet.
Sharivari, can you challenge Joe Rogan to a set and film it for your channel? I think he'd take your challenge as he's such a die-hard pool fan and an excellent player.
I'd have seen what it needed to be but overshot the position. 😢
This 5% shot is actually the 95% of most filipino shots.