Amagi really should qualify considering how many time it freelance both as event ships or as an enemy , or just outright can be bought as a few special ships / premium ships
The Fletcher's are sometimes referred to as the Fletcher "Swarm" by historians so I don't mind them copy/pasting that, and generally when it comes to historical ships, like DoY, Boise etc, I don't mind too much because I'd rather more historical ships than WG wet dream pixel ship designs. I was really worried for Huron when I saw she was a Haida copy/paste but like DoY and KGV is they change enough to give them a different flavour, and Huron is excellent, definitely a copy/paste I'm a fan of (Both Haida and Huron are amazing ships). The 'Lima' versions of a few ships are copy/pastes that are little more than a camo version. The Scharnhorst '43 at least model-wise looks like an actual copy/paste, camo and all.
I might’ve put the Omaha class in here too or as an honorable mention. There is the Omaha, Murmansk, Marblehead, Marblehead Lima, and Rattlehead (Megadeath colab).
Please consider a list of the Top 5 ships to play in Random Operations. Since you cannot know which operation you'll be entering, the choices have to be all around playable in any scenario. I imagine the Mass should be included.
If I remember right, there are almost over half a dozen Fletcher Clones in game if you consider all of the versions. So you have the Fletcher, Black, Kidd, Velos, Benham, Halford, & Chung Mu
Atlanta/Flint: For a long time Flint had Atlanta's name on the stern like the Itallian BBs mentioned. With the added bonus of it bleeding through Flint's camo. For the next time you do this list, can I recommend splitting the list so that true copy pastes (like ARP Yammy) are separate from ships that look the same, but game play is different (like the Fletchers)
I kid you not. During the original ARP Yamato fiasco I had a teammate with 5 total account battles with an ARP Yamato and his account name was literally "ARP_Yamato". He also had a div mate with another ARP Yamato with 150 total account battles. (Yes, they contributed zilch and died from fire spam in about three minutes. Well done WG ... be proud).
SL, how many Pan-Asian cruisers are copy/paste of the ATLANTA/FLINT hulls ? As for the BOISE having a SuperHeal, if you haven't acquired the book NEPTUNES' INFERNO do so. A couple of chapters deal with the time BOISE and HELENA were part of a task group to engage the IJN in the slot off Guadalcanal. I believe that WG used the heroic damage control of the srew to keep the BOISE afloat.
I have the Nelson and I find her absolutely abominable. I thought she's be pretty good but she ain't. Total waste of free experience. How do you find her?
SL, there is also a chance that you can run into ARP Yamato players that didn't drop the excessive $$$ for the package, but got a lucky RNG roll on a lootbox. They won't have the special ARP UU for it... (lootbox gives ship with no way to get UU).
Just some points of clarification and "honorable" mentions: We have six Fletchers in-game; the ones Mountbatten mentioned: Fletcher herself, Kidd, Black, Halford, and Velos (the Greek one). We also have Chung Mu, which is in the Pan-Asian tree. It can be argued that Yukon (the ship that basically destroyed the CC program) is also a copy-paste of Monarch. Brandenburg is just a Tirpitz with smaller guns; Pommern is the same, but for FDG and has torpedoes; and Preussen is just GK but with bigger guns.
Are you going to check out the War thunder submarine event? Imo they have done a much better job then WOWS at it, though it remains to be seen how they will integrate them into regular gameplay if at all.
You forgot Azure Lane 4 Kongos, plus HSF and the tree ship for 6. 4 Azure Lane Myokos, plus the Southern and Eastern Dragons for a total of 7 if you count the tree ship. 2 Atagos plus Tacow and Maya. There's the 3 Marbleheads, thanks to Rattlehead . All that's not counting several ships with ONLY 2 versions.
Code reuse is a great thing in games, but it leads to "the same thing with slight difference." How much can you do with guns/torps? How much can you do with keeping some historic accuracy? Not sure, but they could be more creative with new lines. Hulls that does better when hit from far ranges (can't be citadeled at far range?) and worse when hit from close ranges, maybe? Guns that reload faster when firing at short range? Ships that have higher fire res at far range, but worse at short range? I think there is room to grow.
Two versions of the ARP Yamato were sold. The bundle included the UU and the stand-alone ship did not. I'm not sure how they technically implemented the former, nor how it would reflect in the stats like with 'Ship Tool'.
Video suggestion Top 5 OP & UP tech line ships compared to their tier counterparts, at any tier… can either be all of one type of ship or across the board I dunno, or divide it up by tiers?
Be interesting if you did the top 5 historical ships in our game which met with the worst fate. You might even be able to do it by nation. Just a thought. It could be educational as well.
*AGREED!!!* On ARP Yamma I was still am pissed!!! Thought it was gonna be a skin, *NOT BUYING* Paying for the paint & unique upgrade I already have!!!! *Did I Mention ARP Yamma Has Me Pissed!?* I actually kinda like the Camos for most ARP Ships don't like the captains though.
@broccanmacronain457 yeah, exactly but I loved the Paint Job so I would've spent 15-20 bucks on a skin like I do for the Halloween Skins Monty, Yamma's Scorpion skin & The Infernal Tirpitz skin because the secondaries sound bad ass with that skin. I'm somewhat of a skin collector in those kinda games... so as a skin, I was like I want it! When I found out it was a ship oh, I was so pissed still am. I laugh when I Nuke ARP Yamma's, though, due to most have inexperience with it As Yamma does have some glaring weaknesses for someone that doesn't know them its an insta kill popped 1 just this morning full health broadside 8km away I was in Black Mass 5 or 6 AP Rounds through his cheek from my bow's guns he could overmatch but for his broadside to wipe alottle more than half through the nose of my Massa I nuked his Cheek though don't think he expected to be detonated from almost full health were talking 97% with a fire..
@broccanmacronain457 yeah nice I've seen those the "Skorp" skin for yamma looks crazy though, dunno if I got goth Bismarck might be 1 of the 1s I got from a box, I love the Infernal for Tirpitz though makes the secondaries sound better. I know I got the Monty in a box
Hey sea lord can we get a review of the war thunder sub event? The wt community seems HAPPY about subs so if you could take a look at that it would be very cool.
I would love to get a fake account, buy the ARP Yami to put on it and have that be my ONLY ship. Enter battle and just say, be easy on me, this is my first game EVER
This might not quite be fair: but the Rio de Janeiro and Agincourt are *literally* the same ship. I think some stats are different. But they still have seven turrets with no AA.
I'm trying the Italian cruiser line. See how they handle. Tried the Japanese, American and German and don't find them all that good with 1 or 2 exceptions in each line. Can someone tell me their experience with the Italian cruiser line? Am I wasting my time or is it worth it? I know the Venezia is at tier 10 but outside that ship I'm not so sure it's a line worth grinding. I've gotten to the Zara so far and I feel like I do better in them then the other lines.
Oh, well this is an easy one! The top five are obviously 5. Southern Dragon 4. ARP Haguro 3. ARP Nachi 2. ARP Ashigara 1. ARP Myoko Because Myoko is my favourite ship among those which have been copy-pasted across this game's lifetime.
1. Soviet Sous and Soviet Russia 2. FDG and Pommern 3. Le Terrible and Le Fantasque 4. San Diego, Anlanta, Flint, Chungung 5. Dido and Rahmat Just another top 5. But it can be even top 10.
So, talking about top 10: 6. Haida, Orkan, Huron 7. W. Virginias 8. Tahkents 9. Iowa and Missuri, DM and Salem 10. Yapaneese tier 7 crusers 11. Agir and Sigfrid 12. Kongo copes 13. Gulio Cesare and Novrosisk 14. Okt Revolution, Petr Velikiy, Nikolay I 15. Renowns including Repuls
first and the boise and julio has another copy and paste ship the helena as the 3 are brooklan class cruisers there is also the kagero as there are 6 of them soon to be 7 with the tier 9 premium announced in latest dev blog there are the 4 atagos, 3 amagi, 7 myokos and 6 kongos which are fun too
There are five Fletchers, not four. Six if you want to count Black Friday versions. Fletcher, Kidd, Black, Halford, Velos. Black B if you want to count it. EDIT: Woops, missed the Chung Mu. Six Fletchers. Seven if you wanna count the Black B.
I think that DoY/KGV and the Fletchers are different enough to be excluded from this list, why? Because the other entries are 100%copies of each other Also we have too many collab ships and 90% of them are just carbon copy clones (6 Kongos, 5 Myokos, 3 Amagis, 4Atagos, etc)
Army of Omaha clones, anyone? There's the Omaha, Marblehead, Murmansk, Marblehead Lima, and the Rattlehead (that last one I saw on the wiki but know nothing about).
How about a Top Five Top Five list? :) But seriously, how about a Top Five real ships that should be in game. Without the Johnston and Captain Evans the Fletchers are still too few. And the Sammy B and possibly Hoel.
@@karledwardgonzales6955 I could almost say that the Royal Navy battlecruiser Tiger is pretty much a Kongo copy with a different skin. Her guns are slightly smaller but she plays almost identical to the Kongo.
he is avery rude man, he talked to my daughter, and was so rude, he never says sorry, all he cares about making money on the web, i thinking we should all let vhim go
Amagi really should qualify considering how many time it freelance both as event ships or as an enemy , or just outright can be bought as a few special ships / premium ships
The Fletcher's are sometimes referred to as the Fletcher "Swarm" by historians so I don't mind them copy/pasting that, and generally when it comes to historical ships, like DoY, Boise etc, I don't mind too much because I'd rather more historical ships than WG wet dream pixel ship designs.
I was really worried for Huron when I saw she was a Haida copy/paste but like DoY and KGV is they change enough to give them a different flavour, and Huron is excellent, definitely a copy/paste I'm a fan of (Both Haida and Huron are amazing ships).
The 'Lima' versions of a few ships are copy/pastes that are little more than a camo version.
The Scharnhorst '43 at least model-wise looks like an actual copy/paste, camo and all.
I might’ve put the Omaha class in here too or as an honorable mention. There is the Omaha, Murmansk, Marblehead, Marblehead Lima, and Rattlehead (Megadeath colab).
Please consider a list of the Top 5 ships to play in Random Operations. Since you cannot know which operation you'll be entering, the choices have to be all around playable in any scenario. I imagine the Mass should be included.
top five ships no one asked for video suggestions
This
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Yes pls
Cheers mate! Honoured to be in a slm vid!
If I remember right, there are almost over half a dozen Fletcher Clones in game if you consider all of the versions.
So you have the Fletcher, Black, Kidd, Velos, Benham, Halford, & Chung Mu
Atlanta/Flint: For a long time Flint had Atlanta's name on the stern like the Itallian BBs mentioned. With the added bonus of it bleeding through Flint's camo.
For the next time you do this list, can I recommend splitting the list so that true copy pastes (like ARP Yammy) are separate from ships that look the same, but game play is different (like the Fletchers)
top five consistently fun ships. ships that can be really fun in any kind of matchmaking
You absolutely missed all the Atlanta clones, Flint, San Diego, Chumphon!
I kid you not. During the original ARP Yamato fiasco I had a teammate with 5 total account battles with an ARP Yamato and his account name was literally "ARP_Yamato". He also had a div mate with another ARP Yamato with 150 total account battles. (Yes, they contributed zilch and died from fire spam in about three minutes. Well done WG ... be proud).
SL, how many Pan-Asian cruisers are copy/paste of the ATLANTA/FLINT hulls ?
As for the BOISE having a SuperHeal, if you haven't acquired the book NEPTUNES' INFERNO do so. A couple of chapters deal with the time BOISE and HELENA were part of a task group to engage the IJN in the slot off Guadalcanal. I believe that WG used the heroic damage control of the srew to keep the BOISE afloat.
The Duke's biggest problem is that at T7 we had Nelson too.
I have the Nelson and I find her absolutely abominable. I thought she's be pretty good but she ain't. Total waste of free experience. How do you find her?
@@gothamgoon4237 So good that i never considered to take the Duke too. My prefered in T7 Ranked.
SL, there is also a chance that you can run into ARP Yamato players that didn't drop the excessive $$$ for the package, but got a lucky RNG roll on a lootbox. They won't have the special ARP UU for it... (lootbox gives ship with no way to get UU).
I got mine from loot box🎉
Top 5 Glass Cannons
Just some points of clarification and "honorable" mentions:
We have six Fletchers in-game; the ones Mountbatten mentioned: Fletcher herself, Kidd, Black, Halford, and Velos (the Greek one). We also have Chung Mu, which is in the Pan-Asian tree.
It can be argued that Yukon (the ship that basically destroyed the CC program) is also a copy-paste of Monarch.
Brandenburg is just a Tirpitz with smaller guns; Pommern is the same, but for FDG and has torpedoes; and Preussen is just GK but with bigger guns.
7 Fletchers, you for got Black B, a true clone of another ship
For fletchers you’ve got Kidd, black, fletcher, Velos and Halford
best AA ships list
AA is a meme but still good to know who to maybe hug in CV games
What about the takao class cruisers like atago and Maya.
Are you going to check out the War thunder submarine event? Imo they have done a much better job then WOWS at it, though it remains to be seen how they will integrate them into regular gameplay if at all.
You forgot Azure Lane 4 Kongos, plus HSF and the tree ship for 6. 4 Azure Lane Myokos, plus the Southern and Eastern Dragons for a total of 7 if you count the tree ship. 2 Atagos plus Tacow and Maya. There's the 3 Marbleheads, thanks to Rattlehead . All that's not counting several ships with ONLY 2 versions.
(arp, not azur lane, for the kongos and myokos)
not azur lane, arpeggio of blue steel
Kongou and Myoko are ARP ships not Azure lane,
Takao not Tacow
@@jlo8863I think it was meant to be a joke.
I was going to bring that up but you beat me to it.
There's also Wujing and Bajie, with Wujing being a pan-asian Alsace and Bajie being a pan-asian Izumo
Code reuse is a great thing in games, but it leads to "the same thing with slight difference." How much can you do with guns/torps? How much can you do with keeping some historic accuracy? Not sure, but they could be more creative with new lines. Hulls that does better when hit from far ranges (can't be citadeled at far range?) and worse when hit from close ranges, maybe? Guns that reload faster when firing at short range? Ships that have higher fire res at far range, but worse at short range? I think there is room to grow.
Ship tool filter show ARP and Yammy have identical dispersion, WITHOUT the UU. Thus, UU gives Yammy a superior dispersion.
Two versions of the ARP Yamato were sold. The bundle included the UU and the stand-alone ship did not. I'm not sure how they technically implemented the former, nor how it would reflect in the stats like with 'Ship Tool'.
Thanks, I was just wondering how that figured in.@@rickwiggins283
Top 5 most intimadating but just very weak ships Video suggustion
Top 5 Black Friday ships definitely
I would like to see and 2 copypasta Fletcher DD's: Mexican ARM Cuitláhuac and JMSDF Ariake
Video suggestion Top 5 OP & UP tech line ships compared to their tier counterparts, at any tier… can either be all of one type of ship or across the board I dunno, or divide it up by tiers?
Be interesting if you did the top 5 historical ships in our game which met with the worst fate. You might even be able to do it by nation. Just a thought. It could be educational as well.
still waiting on the french cavalery "ship" XD
Expected the Kamikazes to be at least mentioned... but then again I wasn't around for their release so idek the story behind why there's 3 of them...
Before the Snowflake event, an upgrade to Coal - Steel ship list?
*AGREED!!!* On ARP Yamma I was still am pissed!!! Thought it was gonna be a skin, *NOT BUYING* Paying for the paint & unique upgrade I already have!!!!
*Did I Mention ARP Yamma Has Me Pissed!?* I actually kinda like the Camos for most ARP Ships don't like the captains though.
Yeah their voices drive me up the wall. Kinda like finger nails on a blackboard.
@broccanmacronain457 yeah, exactly but I loved the Paint Job so I would've spent 15-20 bucks on a skin like I do for the Halloween Skins Monty, Yamma's Scorpion skin & The Infernal Tirpitz skin because the secondaries sound bad ass with that skin. I'm somewhat of a skin collector in those kinda games... so as a skin, I was like I want it! When I found out it was a ship oh, I was so pissed still am. I laugh when I Nuke ARP Yamma's, though, due to most have inexperience with it As Yamma does have some glaring weaknesses for someone that doesn't know them its an insta kill popped 1 just this morning full health broadside 8km away I was in Black Mass 5 or 6 AP Rounds through his cheek from my bow's guns he could overmatch but for his broadside to wipe alottle more than half through the nose of my Massa I nuked his Cheek though don't think he expected to be detonated from almost full health were talking 97% with a fire..
@@HybridRenoII The only 2 Cammos that I have bought are the gothic Bismarck and the octodroid one for the Alaska.
@broccanmacronain457 yeah nice I've seen those the "Skorp" skin for yamma looks crazy though, dunno if I got goth Bismarck might be 1 of the 1s I got from a box, I love the Infernal for Tirpitz though makes the secondaries sound better. I know I got the Monty in a box
Uhh...how about the ARP Kongo line and the many Myokos?
Love HMS Duke of York! Prince of Whales coming when? And me want the Johnston too!
If you Bought the Boisie or the Nueve, this was in Sept., you had till the end of the year to do a mission and get the other for free.
You forgot Novorossik which is just Roma after it was turned over to the Soviets after the war.
Roma got sunk. It was Giulio Cesare that went to the Russians.
Hey sea lord can we get a review of the war thunder sub event? The wt community seems HAPPY about subs so if you could take a look at that it would be very cool.
I would love to get a fake account, buy the ARP Yami to put on it and have that be my ONLY ship. Enter battle and just say, be easy on me, this is my first game EVER
This might not quite be fair: but the Rio de Janeiro and Agincourt are *literally* the same ship. I think some stats are different. But they still have seven turrets with no AA.
Top 5 Forgotten ships. Not ships that are powercrept or op, just forgotten about.
I'm trying the Italian cruiser line. See how they handle. Tried the Japanese, American and German and don't find them all that good with 1 or 2 exceptions in each line. Can someone tell me their experience with the Italian cruiser line? Am I wasting my time or is it worth it? I know the Venezia is at tier 10 but outside that ship I'm not so sure it's a line worth grinding. I've gotten to the Zara so far and I feel like I do better in them then the other lines.
What about some of those lower tier battleships? There's also some of those mid tier cruisers that look almost exactly the same.
The T7 & T8 Arpeggio cruisers.
I probably would have thrown in the Atlanta as an honorable mention.
would have added the whole ARP stuff, like we have like 6 kongo? the tech one, 4 ARP, and 1 HSF, also 4 myoko copy and2 atago
If they add in the Johnson it needs an added dispersion against cruisers and battleships
no mention of the HOW MANY OMAHA cruisers we have in game?
Top 5 playing decisions which can lead us to victory and prevent defeatstreaks 😅
waiting on the Ollie Burke class DD. :)
Akizuki could have made the list - Fenyang, Ship Smasha and Harekaze's
Do a top 5 best boats for ASW
Say...can we bring back the ranked battle with tier 6 or 7?
The only problem I see with adding the Johnston is just how would WG make it as OP as the original turned out... or at least its commander and crew. 😎
Well, I'd vote for The Sullivans
Oh, well this is an easy one!
The top five are obviously
5. Southern Dragon
4. ARP Haguro
3. ARP Nachi
2. ARP Ashigara
1. ARP Myoko
Because Myoko is my favourite ship among those which have been copy-pasted across this game's lifetime.
Exactly identical ships are not included (with the exception of the Yammy)
And also I'd for sure Buy
*BB-64 WISCONSIN* Put Controllable Tomahawk's on there 😂😉
1. Soviet Sous and Soviet Russia
2. FDG and Pommern
3. Le Terrible and Le Fantasque
4. San Diego, Anlanta, Flint, Chungung
5. Dido and Rahmat
Just another top 5. But it can be even top 10.
So, talking about top 10:
6. Haida, Orkan, Huron
7. W. Virginias
8. Tahkents
9. Iowa and Missuri, DM and Salem
10. Yapaneese tier 7 crusers
11. Agir and Sigfrid
12. Kongo copes
13. Gulio Cesare and Novrosisk
14. Okt Revolution, Petr Velikiy, Nikolay I
15. Renowns including Repuls
Forgeting about Atlanta gang
first and the boise and julio has another copy and paste ship the helena as the 3 are brooklan class cruisers
there is also the kagero as there are 6 of them soon to be 7 with the tier 9 premium announced in latest dev blog
there are the 4 atagos, 3 amagi, 7 myokos and 6 kongos which are fun too
How are there 6 kageros? I can think of only Kagero and Asashio..
@@agniray3235 HSF Harakaze and Harakaze 2 asashio B and AL yukikaze and the new one in the latest Dev blog
@@123JWhyte Ah ok
@@agniray3235 Asashio is actually a class before the Kagerō.
Well, Boise the Nueve are literelly the same ship, Helena is a bit different, as she's of the St. Louis subclass.
i find that there are quite a few copys of the Sims.
WeeGee never intended to put Boise into the game but the playerbase demanded it so is it really a copy paste?
Can you do another video on top five new premiums wargaming should add. Love your last video with the Johnston concept
There are five Fletchers, not four. Six if you want to count Black Friday versions.
Fletcher, Kidd, Black, Halford, Velos. Black B if you want to count it.
EDIT: Woops, missed the Chung Mu. Six Fletchers. Seven if you wanna count the Black B.
Idea: Top 5 things in the game that nobody asked for
Top five ship line for new players
Gronningen and Frisland
Gollant and Jurua
All Pan-Asian ships
Arp, Black, AL, HSF,CRL and other copies of ships
'41 - '44 versions of ships
Myoko has been copy/pasted quite a few times hasn't it.
Top 5 best secondary ships?
I would like a copy and paste of the Wisconsin and New Jersey
Top 5 best ships below T5
I think that DoY/KGV and the Fletchers are different enough to be excluded from this list, why? Because the other entries are 100%copies of each other
Also we have too many collab ships and 90% of them are just carbon copy clones (6 Kongos, 5 Myokos, 3 Amagis, 4Atagos, etc)
Mushy pea gods
Top 5 black Friday ships
Ones you can't get with coal
Army of Omaha clones, anyone? There's the Omaha, Marblehead, Murmansk, Marblehead Lima, and the Rattlehead (that last one I saw on the wiki but know nothing about).
Hello good people of you tube
Has anyone tried the new Submarine game mode In war thunder?
How about a Top Five Top Five list? :)
But seriously, how about a Top Five real ships that should be in game. Without the Johnston and Captain Evans the Fletchers are still too few. And the Sammy B and possibly Hoel.
Flandre
Shimone= Fubuki
plus he was very rude to my daughter, i gave him a chance to say sorry live on line he didnt
Top 5 ships no longer available (e.g. Kamikaze)
Ummm Omaha.... I count 5 versions
top 5 ranked bronze
Velos
Atlanta didn’t make the cut
3 minutes talking about the AP on the Duke of York and telling people to use it... Game shown never swaps from HE :)
Also huanghe perth and chungking, although the three are pretty dissimilar when it comes to game play due to different reasons
You forgot the Kongo Sisters as well... there are 6
There are 6 Kongo-class ships in the game...
1. Kongo
2. ARP Kongo
3. ARP Kirishima
4. ARP Haruna
5. ARP Hiei
6. HSF Hiei
@@karledwardgonzales6955 I could almost say that the Royal Navy battlecruiser Tiger is pretty much a Kongo copy with a different skin. Her guns are slightly smaller but she plays almost identical to the Kongo.
Top 5 weeb ships
and he cpopies off the other web guys
he is avery rude man, he talked to my daughter, and was so rude, he never says sorry, all he cares about making money on the web, i thinking we should all let vhim go
Benham or somers
they ain't copys