Same here, as a wedding camera it’s so good, like most I shoot on a harness with 2x cameras and it relegated my A9 to my left side shooting ‘B cam’. The only thing I’d take over to the IV from the a9 is the increased buffer for the confetti shot. The skin tones on the iv are noticeably a lot better than the a9 too. Look forward to watching your video.
Benj, Happy Holidays to you & yours. Just want to say "Thank YOU!" for this video ! I've been a viewer for a while & recently got the A7$ from a Canon 80D & your videos have been most helpful, but this one, mad me feel better about learning a new system & like you pointed out I am finally starting to understand its workflow. Cheers & much success in 2023!
I´m just starting my wedding photography business and am planing to switch from Canon to Sony mainly because of the lack of 3rd party glass for Canon. My idea is having the a7RV as main camera because you can use it in 26MP mode oversampled from 61MP and keep the 26MP when you switch to the crop mode. That way you kind of have 2 lenses in one and you don´t have to carry around 2 cameras all the time. Therefore my planned setup might be a bit unusual: Start setup 1 Sony a7RV as main camera 1 Sony a6400 succesor as second camera Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 G2 Samyang 35mm 1.4 (for budget reasons, I know there are better options) equals a 52mm 2.1 with 26MP in crop mode later include Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN = 127mm 2.1 in crop mode Sigma 50mm 1.4 DG DN (as soon as it comes out) = 75mm 2.1 in crop mode Viltrox 23mm 1.4 for the APS-C body Tamron 20mm 2.8
Sometime in the last year Benj put out a video asking for $10K camera kits for various brands. My go to kit would be Sony a7iv, 24mm f1.4, 55mm f1.8, 135mm f1.8, and a sigma 24-70mm f2.8. I made the point that APS-C mode with these primes would fill the gaps. I'm proud to see that it seems Benj has moved to something similar :)
Currently using a a7iii, but considering SL2-S, A7SIII, or this A7IV. I bought an original Q back when they were first released and absolutely love the shooting experience on a Leica. Second to that would be fuji. As weird as this may sound, I just can’t connect the same with a Sony. I have convinced myself to go all out on Leica but now watching this video and hearing your thoughts have me questioning everything. Haha. Great video, thank you and Happy Holidays!
Sony is never being the same shooting experience. Because Sony is #1 an electronics company - and whileas Sony had being very early with digicams into general, -prototypes, it's that before the Fall 2013, Sony never played a role into camera gear business - before the A7 and A7R was being released. They've had only APS-C format before. And they've bought the IP and camera industry literally to the 1st april 2006 from Konica Minolta. The Alpha 850/900 back from 2008/9 was a true KM DSLR design, but not ready before being released. Whileas Sony lenses and gear is really good into 2022, they've been always focusing on features - never the shooting experience, like a true, real camera brand since decades, think about Canikon & Fuji, -Leica for instance. I never felt satisfied to shoot my A7, and especially newer iterations, the faux pentaprism hump, the glued-on camera grip, etc...the oddly arranged buttons & switches, -dials. It's not that Sony is perfect into camera usability experience - it never was. And especially if one does love simplicity, someone is being much better being served with Fujifilm, or Leica especially. the latter one also does hold it's value quite well, vs. a typical Sony. Not a rant - but just the facts. Merry xmas and happy holidays ! /fixed typo
I own a Leica sl2-s. Wonderful camera. Love the lenses and the colors it produces, but if you need reliable autofocus for moving subjects, it’s nowhere near as good as my nikon z9. Hopefully the next version will support phase detect autofocus.
@@iamadil Please consider reviews on DPReview, pro/contra, etc. Into the End, it's all about the lenses, less so about the body. You do invest into a system, hence the lenses, and bodies are being replaced all couple years. That happens here all 5-8 years, whileas other ppl exchange the body all 3-5 years. For filmmaking (which i never do) are way more lenses being avialable, then for APS-C. That means, you should perhaps use a speedbooster. I don't think, that you want to spent like 5-10k, for just a body, and perhaps 2, maybe 3 lenses. It depends very much, which kind of focal length, and too many other unknown variables, what to shoot, how to shoot, for instance product photography, fashion or what else? For portraits, the new XF 75/F1.2 Viltrox is wonderful, onto Fujifilm X-T4/T5. Its very sharp, even at F1.2 aperture, for such a lens. Battery life, weight of the whole package, and many more things are to be considered. There's no universal this and that is best for the task is good enough.
BRAVO! I too use Leica and Sony and finally someone speaks the truth! Over and over you just spill out the truth and it really works. You have become the gold standard dude! Enjoy it! Congrats. Michael Neumann One World Productions.
So wild. I switched from Canon in January to the A74. Finally caved. Shot 14 weddings. DOP corporate stuff. Loathed the color while editing photo and video. Mixed lighting people looked like zombies outside looked fine, S-log was really tough to grade. I just couldn’t handle the color science. I know many make it work but I just cringed at spent way too much time trying to make shit look tire color. Luckily, I purchased it at Best Buy with my Best Buy credit card and got something ridiculous like $400 in Best Buy points. I also purchased all used glass and when I sold all my canon gear back in January most the lenses were still back ordered so I took a very small hit. I’ve got 2 R5C cameras used for a really good price and that camera is imo the absolute best hybrid camera. ✌🏼
Pause @ 10:35 This is exactly what I was getting. Orange skin tones and green cast. No way his tux is dark green. I just couldn’t stomach the color differences between the systems.
Totally agree with your opinions @benjhaisch - I really like the versatility of this camera. I own the 2.8 trinity and still love to jump into the small 40mm f2.5 for street photog or to be discrete doing my photos of my own family. I think Ill get the 20mm f1.8 G or 24 f1.4 GM for super low light at some point.
Totally understand why you use Sony for weddings. Sounds like you've benched the Leica M for weddings. I shoot M11 and as much as I adore it I was always in awe of how you got thru a wedding with it! Don't abandon the Leica content though?
Alright so hear me out.....I own a A7IV as my A cam and i need to get rid of my B cam(a6500) and upgrade, I shoot lots of wildlife,lots of live events, hockey,motocross,weddings, concerts etc, and I can not figure out which camera to get as my secondary cam, or possibly be my new A cam. The sony A7R V is the OBVIOUS choice but the price is so much more than the IV. The A7CII has too many little things that are a no go for me, but the compactness of the CII would be immaculate having like the sony 85mm 1,8 on it, it would be SO small and light, but once again I think there are too many deal breakers for me on that camera. So this leads me to this........Am i crazy for wanting to buy a SECOND IV to be my B cam? The biggest caveat in this all is that i actually shoot a lot of video for my work but I dont want the A7sIII to be my B cam when shooting photos of all these events etc, although it would turn the camera into a total beast because i can film in 120fps no crop. but yeah, am i nuts for wanting to have 2 IVs on me while shooting these events? I can almost buy two IVS for the price of one R V.
Very nice video. I just ordered mine and I’m excited AF! That top handle looks like it would break under that weight though lol I got my black magic for rigging this will be my social media TH-cam beast
The newer sensors work WAY better with them off the bat, but some HSL tweaks are fairly easy on them. Many of these on the A7RIV are with them but the A7IV ones are obviously with them as well. th-cam.com/video/6pQ_Ng0VQak/w-d-xo.html
I have a question, I don't know if you can help me? I have a sony a7iv. on the dial it has MP Auto 123 . when I memorize functions in 1 or 2 or 3 I can't change (f) iris. only in M that I can change.
I'm having a bit of a dilemma here... A7rV vs A7mIV. I can get the former here for about 3,2k (USD) and it clearly has a ton of improvements I appreciate, but I honestly don't need 60 megapixels every single time I go out (especially for street photography) I'm also not sure if it can handle high-ISO situations well. Wish the a7mV came out sooner, but we won't see it until late 2024 most likely. EDIT: One huge advantage of having 60 megapixels is that I can switch to APS-C and get way more reach out of my lenses (especially telephoto) and still get 26 megapixels to play with. Kinda wish the next iteration of the m-line could come with 40-45 megapixels, but it won't happen.
Hello, Do you use your Leica M more? I agree with you concerning the autofocus which is important in this type of photography. After the simplicity of editing files with the Leica is still a time saver in post production for me. I should try the A7iv because I am on A7riv, SL2S Q2 M11 Thanks for your video and Merry Christmas to you and your family
The Sigma 24-70 lives on my FX3. I was a “prime lens snob” for the longest time. Now I want the Sigma 16-28 and 28-70 to increase the versatility of my A7IV.
Would you choose the Sony fx3 or the r6 mark ii for documentary/vlog content? I also like taking pictures. For some reason, I enjoy using canon cameras more than Sony.
How do the colors of the Sony complement with your other cameras? I see you are using different cameras nowadays also for your weddings. I am invested into the Fujifilm universe with two xt3s and i am also doing weddings. so my concern is that i cannot use the sony easily as companion because of the colors. Is it hard to color your images the same way as you do with your fujis or leicas?
Sony's GM lenses are absolutely excellent - only Canon's very best RF lenses can match them, and maybe a couple like the 135/1.8 and 70-200/2.8 surpass Sony's versions. My current camera is about 5 years old now, I am waiting to see in 2023 what Panasonic do with the follow-up to the S1/S5 and Nikon do with the Z6iii, because really the a7IV and the R6ii meet essentially all of what I need in terms of pure specs. It is just about choosing the system you are most comfortable with in your needs and wants as a photographer. Great video! Anamorphic lenses look fun...how long until Sony makes a G Master anamorphic for E mount?!
The 24mm GM is easily one of my most favourite lenses ever, but when Fuji can make their 18mm 1.4 virtually perfect in terms of aberration control for almost half the cost of the Sony it does concern me that GM glass isn’t as good as the cost. Just like the canon RF 85 1.2.. it’s an incredible lens but not at 1.2
I don’t think the 70-200 surpasses the Sony GM II. If it does it’s just splitting hairs on one feature or another. All the latest generation flagship lenses are crazy good from Sony, Nikon and Canon. I just got the GM II, it is stupid nice. The 135 is the older generation of GM, I’ve heard it’s pretty nice but not at the level of the newer generation of GMs.
I think with the E-mount system there are quite a lot of third-party lenses that can match the GM series lens. On the prime lenses Sigma's DG DN 85mm F1.4 is better than GM 85mm F1.4 (which is a bit long in the teeth and needs an update), Sigma 105mm F1.4 surprisingly no competitor in this focal range but it is better than both GM85mm and GM135mm. Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8, Sigma 16mm-28mm or Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 are all excellent zoom lenses. What surprised me a bit is with Sigma. Sigma came out with their superb DG DN 85mm F1.4 almost 2 years ago, it was quite a light 85mm F1.4 barely 625g, I really hoped they can put out 40mm F1.2, 50mm F1.2, or replace the heavy 105mm F1.4 with a lighter replacement or 105mm F1.2 but Sigma seemed to stop producing or developing newer prime lenses for now. Nikon will be interesting. Nikon Z mount is a camera mount that can take advantage and use Sony E mount glass with a techart adapter.
@@jliang70 I have the Sigma 105 and the Tamron 35-150. Both are optically fantastic but there is no comparison between their AF speed and my 70-200 GMII. It has to be like 3x slower and that is still pretty fast but the GMII is another beast. If anything isn’t running and snapping onto different subjects like in a game you wouldn’t really care but once you do it’s very noticeable.
Whats the difference between setting an aps-c crop in camera as opposed to cropping in editing? Is it just to have the longer reach in your viewfinder?
Looking to buy this camera to shoot nba games, as I have really good season tickets and have always wanted to make edits and what not. Do you recommend this camera and what lenses should i look to get with it?
Benj, I’m getting ready to finally get the a7iv! (It will be my main work horse camera.) I’m new to shooting weddings and currently only have the Sony a7iii. I know it’s standard to have two camera body’s. Would you recommend I swap my a7iii for a second a7iv? Or have one of each model? Thanks!
I just switched from canon to the A7R V. I need a second body and was looking at the A7R IV due to cost. The colors seem to be different though. Can anyone shed some light on this?
@@benjhaisch thanks! I’ll have to check that one out. Do you think shooting the two on the same shoot would work well? I’ve always noticed the odd skin tones with Sony, but the A7R V has none of that. Just a bit nervous to combine 🤷🏻♂️ thanks again!
Thank you for your videos. I am not a wedding photographer. I do landscapes and travel photography. You stated that the autofocus on the Leica SL2S was "not there yet" compared to the two Sony bodies. For me, this is not quite as important as image quality, portability, and weather sealing. Earlier this year, you posted a video on the Leica 50mm Summicron-SL on the SL2S. You have also commented extensively and favorably on the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM. I was wondering if you could compare the two? I need a really good 50mm with weather sealing. The combination of the Sony A7RV with the 50mm 1.2 GM would be about a third of a pound lighter than a Leica SL2 with 50mm Summicron-SL. However, would the image quality and character on the Sony setup be similar or comparable to the Leica? Thanks for any help you could give.
Hey Howard, yeah that’s a great comparison. For travel/landscape stuff, AF obviously wouldn’t be *as* necessary as with weddings and all of that movement. I really did love both and for me, I’d probably go with the 50/1.2GM for it’s size/weight and extra light gathering, but that 50 Summicron-SL is near perfection in terms of IQ. Not that the 50GM is any slouch, but the 50 Summicron-SL felt like it had medium format levels of detail and quality. Maybe that’s just off of the experience, but it did feel very commercial/editorial.
@@benjhaisch The last issue for me would be weather sealing. I know the Leica combination is rock solid in this area. Sony states that it is dust and moisture resistant, but not guaranteed to be 100% moisture and dust proof. Might you have had any experience with Sony cameras/lenses in the rain?
@@benjhaisch Exactly, and it has been said over and over. Sony is the SCREEN company. That is their bread and butter. They should be using that as an advantageous selling point over the competition.
Holding out on the a7iv in hopes that they release an a7iva. I've got an a9 and a7iii for the time being, I'd love to upgrade, but having that lackluster lcd and evf combo kills the upgrade against my current set-up.
Not comparable, Horses for courses. Comparsion between Apples vs Oranges. Perhaps you've not being the right person for Fujifilm, but just Sony. It's the gear industry, which always tell ya, 35mm digital is better than APS-C, whileas X-Trans APS-C is excellent, for many things. And you haven't seen a pro Landscape Photographer - Andy Mumfold, after using Fujifilm gear for 6 years - Full Frame to Fuji - 6 Years Later As A Landscape Photographer: th-cam.com/video/uEKlEghwpjY/w-d-xo.html I own 2 FF setups, and *if* shooting digital, then it's Fujifilm, clearly.
@@marcp.1752 agreed I have an R5 canon and XT4 and XH2S I just use them for different things. I’d probably keep the Fuji and sell everything else if I was in a bind.
@@robmcd I have the X100 LE, X-E1/2, X-T1 (graphite). It's enough. Also other (old) gear, but it's enough. Possible selling something into next year, but not my Fujis.
I picked up an A7iv this summer after shooting Fuji for 7 years. Wow. Just wow. I did a YT video about it. I’ve since sold all my Fuji gear (except 100V). Quickly bought an FX3 to compliment it and it’s just a dream combo.
Ok, I love Sony. I’ve a a7r4 and A7c with 20G, 135GM, 24-70GMII, 35, 50, 85mm, +++ … lenses and they make the job but I’m disappointed because since 2020, Sony didn’t release new firmware for these cameras and lenses. I’ve also the amazing Fuji X-H2, +++ … and Fuji released a lot of firmware. Same for Leica SL-2S and Q2, firmware are regularly delivered 😅
I miss using manual focus M-mount lenses (used to shoot bessas in the 00s). Right now I'm a fuji X guy, and while manual focusing is possible, it's not awesome. (also, cropped, bleh.) I'm working on getting a used sl2-s cuz it sounds like that might be the best platform for m-mount lenses (aside from actual m cameras). How is the experience of using m-mount lenses on this sony?
@@joetrent4753 I've tried several different manual focus lenses (ttartisan, 7artisan) on my fuji cameras. I've used focus peaking. I've tried without. I've tried punch-in, etc. Yes, I can focus it, but it's just not a happy-making experience for me. It's been many years since I actually held rangefinder cameras in my hands, but I remember it being much easier. (And maybe it is only nostalgia, but maybe it was just easier.)
Using M mount lenses on the A7IV is not as good as manually focusing E mount lenses. When you turn the focus ring on a native lens the auto magnifier automatically kicks in. When you stop turning the ring for a second or do a half shutter press the focus magnification kicks out. When you combine that with focus peaking it becomes a snap to quickly focus even with the low-res EVF. I'm very happy with manual focus on native lenses. Without electronic contacts that let the camera know that you are turning the focus ring, which is what you get with adapted lenses, you have to assign a custom button to use the focus magnifier, which is perfectly fine. Unfortunately, you can only exit focus magnification by either pressing the custom button and toggling through all of the focus magnification levels or setting a 2s or 5s timeout on the focus magnifier. That makes the experience frustrating compared to using E mount lenses. It would be trivially fixable in firmware. All they have to do is make a half-press end focus magnification when it is initiated by the focus magnifier button just as it does with auto magnification turned on. If you don't use focus magnification for manual focus, then it's perfectly fine as-is.
Disregard everything I just wrote. I just discovered that if you set "AF in Focus Mag" to "Off" then manual focus with my M-mount lenses works as I would like. With this setting, a half-press exits focus magnification when using a lens that doesn't communicate to the camera. Because of course that's what it does. Am I glad I took the time to reply to you! I'll be walking around with old Nikkors and Leica lenses soon.
@@saramdipm I use Voigtlander E mount lenses on my Sony and have magnify set to off as I found it became quite annoying. I just have a custom button set to magnify. I do use zone focusing and pre-focusing a lot though.
My newest set will be developed with a LOT more Sony in mind than the previous ones. Hoping to release in Q1 2023. 02 works really well with Sony though with some tweaks.
I've been extremely disappointed by the A7iv in a specific case : people running, cloudy weather, 70 200 f2.8 GM2. Great subject recognition and tracking, but only 30 % of sharp pictures. Many back focused, especially people with long hair. Unusable for this case. Otherwise very nice camera.
Same here, as a wedding camera it’s so good, like most I shoot on a harness with 2x cameras and it relegated my A9 to my left side shooting ‘B cam’. The only thing I’d take over to the IV from the a9 is the increased buffer for the confetti shot. The skin tones on the iv are noticeably a lot better than the a9 too. Look forward to watching your video.
It really is. I haven’t used the A9 series, but I’m hoping to get a copy of whatever the new model is when it comes out just to try.
CF Express card for unlimited buffer.
Love my a7IV. Hoping to see that sensor in an a7Cii sometime in 2023! Happy Holidays Benj. Thanks for all the great videos this year
seriously!
Benj, Happy Holidays to you & yours. Just want to say "Thank YOU!" for this video ! I've been a viewer for a while & recently got the A7$ from a Canon 80D & your videos have been most helpful, but this one, mad me feel better about learning a new system & like you pointed out I am finally starting to understand its workflow. Cheers & much success in 2023!
I´m just starting my wedding photography business and am planing to switch from Canon to Sony mainly because of the lack of 3rd party glass for Canon.
My idea is having the a7RV as main camera because you can use it in 26MP mode oversampled from 61MP and keep the 26MP when you switch to the crop mode. That way you kind of have 2 lenses in one and you don´t have to carry around 2 cameras all the time. Therefore my planned setup might be a bit unusual:
Start setup
1 Sony a7RV as main camera
1 Sony a6400 succesor as second camera
Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 G2
Samyang 35mm 1.4 (for budget reasons, I know there are better options) equals a 52mm 2.1 with 26MP in crop mode
later include
Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN = 127mm 2.1 in crop mode
Sigma 50mm 1.4 DG DN (as soon as it comes out) = 75mm 2.1 in crop mode
Viltrox 23mm 1.4 for the APS-C body
Tamron 20mm 2.8
I would have passed the last two and go for the Sigma 16-28mm F2.8 or Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 instead of Viltrox 23mm and Tamron 20mm.
Sometime in the last year Benj put out a video asking for $10K camera kits for various brands. My go to kit would be Sony a7iv, 24mm f1.4, 55mm f1.8, 135mm f1.8, and a sigma 24-70mm f2.8. I made the point that APS-C mode with these primes would fill the gaps. I'm proud to see that it seems Benj has moved to something similar :)
th-cam.com/video/XOaSne3SAQk/w-d-xo.html :)
Why the 135 GM over the 70-200?
Happy holidays, Ben! Keep up the good work - you’re the best!
Button and Dial set up is what I like about my Sonys. I enjoy that a lot.
Honestly the A7IV files have way more depth to them than the A1.
Currently using a a7iii, but considering SL2-S, A7SIII, or this A7IV. I bought an original Q back when they were first released and absolutely love the shooting experience on a Leica. Second to that would be fuji. As weird as this may sound, I just can’t connect the same with a Sony. I have convinced myself to go all out on Leica but now watching this video and hearing your thoughts have me questioning everything. Haha. Great video, thank you and Happy Holidays!
Checkout R6ii vs A7iv first. I hate recommending canon but facts matter.
Sony is never being the same shooting experience. Because Sony is #1 an electronics company - and whileas Sony had being very early with digicams into general, -prototypes, it's that before the Fall 2013, Sony never played a role into camera gear business - before the A7 and A7R was being released. They've had only APS-C format before. And they've bought the IP and camera industry literally to the 1st april 2006 from Konica Minolta. The Alpha 850/900 back from 2008/9 was a true KM DSLR design, but not ready before being released.
Whileas Sony lenses and gear is really good into 2022, they've been always focusing on features - never the shooting experience, like a true, real camera brand since decades, think about Canikon & Fuji, -Leica for instance. I never felt satisfied to shoot my A7, and especially newer iterations, the faux pentaprism hump, the glued-on camera grip, etc...the oddly arranged buttons & switches, -dials. It's not that Sony is perfect into camera usability experience - it never was.
And especially if one does love simplicity, someone is being much better being served with Fujifilm, or Leica especially. the latter one also does hold it's value quite well, vs. a typical Sony. Not a rant - but just the facts.
Merry xmas and happy holidays !
/fixed typo
I own a Leica sl2-s. Wonderful camera. Love the lenses and the colors it produces, but if you need reliable autofocus for moving subjects, it’s nowhere near as good as my nikon z9. Hopefully the next version will support phase detect autofocus.
@@marcp.1752 hey i am planning to buy fuji xt3/ xt5 or sony a7siii/ or any other. for filmmaking. its my first camera can you help me to pick one
@@iamadil Please consider reviews on DPReview, pro/contra, etc. Into the End, it's all about the lenses, less so about the body. You do invest into a system, hence the lenses, and bodies are being replaced all couple years. That happens here all 5-8 years, whileas other ppl exchange the body all 3-5 years. For filmmaking (which i never do) are way more lenses being avialable, then for APS-C. That means, you should perhaps use a speedbooster. I don't think, that you want to spent like 5-10k, for just a body, and perhaps 2, maybe 3 lenses. It depends very much, which kind of focal length, and too many other unknown variables, what to shoot, how to shoot, for instance product photography, fashion or what else? For portraits, the new XF 75/F1.2 Viltrox is wonderful, onto Fujifilm X-T4/T5. Its very sharp, even at F1.2 aperture, for such a lens. Battery life, weight of the whole package, and many more things are to be considered. There's no universal this and that is best for the task is good enough.
BRAVO! I too use Leica and Sony and finally someone speaks the truth! Over and over you just spill out the truth and it really works. You have become the gold standard dude! Enjoy it! Congrats. Michael Neumann One World Productions.
Currently trying to decide if I should get a second copy of the IV or get a rV to use as my main camera 🧐
Very high chance you will get an A7IV and it will overheat. These TH-camrs get the good ones.
@@AC-vu1js I’ve been using one for the last year. It hasn’t overheated before.
Thanks for the vid!
So wild. I switched from Canon in January to the A74. Finally caved. Shot 14 weddings. DOP corporate stuff. Loathed the color while editing photo and video. Mixed lighting people looked like zombies outside looked fine, S-log was really tough to grade. I just couldn’t handle the color science. I know many make it work but I just cringed at spent way too much time trying to make shit look tire color. Luckily, I purchased it at Best Buy with my Best Buy credit card and got something ridiculous like $400 in Best Buy points. I also purchased all used glass and when I sold all my canon gear back in January most the lenses were still back ordered so I took a very small hit. I’ve got 2 R5C cameras used for a really good price and that camera is imo the absolute best hybrid camera. ✌🏼
Pause @ 10:35 This is exactly what I was getting. Orange skin tones and green cast. No way his tux is dark green. I just couldn’t stomach the color differences between the systems.
Totally agree with your opinions @benjhaisch - I really like the versatility of this camera. I own the 2.8 trinity and still love to jump into the small 40mm f2.5 for street photog or to be discrete doing my photos of my own family. I think Ill get the 20mm f1.8 G or 24 f1.4 GM for super low light at some point.
Totally understand why you use Sony for weddings. Sounds like you've benched the Leica M for weddings. I shoot M11 and as much as I adore it I was always in awe of how you got thru a wedding with it! Don't abandon the Leica content though?
Great video Benj. It is such a solid camera!
Fantastic review, Benj 💯🎥
Alright so hear me out.....I own a A7IV as my A cam and i need to get rid of my B cam(a6500) and upgrade, I shoot lots of wildlife,lots of live events, hockey,motocross,weddings, concerts etc, and I can not figure out which camera to get as my secondary cam, or possibly be my new A cam. The sony A7R V is the OBVIOUS choice but the price is so much more than the IV. The A7CII has too many little things that are a no go for me, but the compactness of the CII would be immaculate having like the sony 85mm 1,8 on it, it would be SO small and light, but once again I think there are too many deal breakers for me on that camera. So this leads me to this........Am i crazy for wanting to buy a SECOND IV to be my B cam? The biggest caveat in this all is that i actually shoot a lot of video for my work but I dont want the A7sIII to be my B cam when shooting photos of all these events etc, although it would turn the camera into a total beast because i can film in 120fps no crop. but yeah, am i nuts for wanting to have 2 IVs on me while shooting these events? I can almost buy two IVS for the price of one R V.
I like the A7IV so much I bought a second body and a bunch of f1.4 primes woth a couple of 2.8 zooms. All i need
Very nice video. I just ordered mine and I’m excited AF! That top handle looks like it would break under that weight though lol I got my black magic for rigging this will be my social media TH-cam beast
Amen! It’s so good, I wound up getting three of them!
Looking forward to a RAW file comparison with the Rv
just got this today 🥰
Agreed,best bang for the buck.I wonder if it sold as much as the A7-3 (that was a money maker for Sony)
Love how you’re using Sony cameras now! Im curious how are you liking your Cascade presets with Sony cameras?
The newer sensors work WAY better with them off the bat, but some HSL tweaks are fairly easy on them. Many of these on the A7RIV are with them but the A7IV ones are obviously with them as well. th-cam.com/video/6pQ_Ng0VQak/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the response dude, appreciate it!
i have the a7iii; the ibis sucks. is the a7iv better?
I have a question, I don't know if you can help me? I have a sony a7iv. on the dial it has MP Auto 123 . when I memorize functions in 1 or 2 or 3 I can't change (f) iris. only in M that I can change.
You should test out the tamron 35-150 it’s amazing!
I'm having a bit of a dilemma here... A7rV vs A7mIV. I can get the former here for about 3,2k (USD) and it clearly has a ton of improvements I appreciate, but I honestly don't need 60 megapixels every single time I go out (especially for street photography) I'm also not sure if it can handle high-ISO situations well. Wish the a7mV came out sooner, but we won't see it until late 2024 most likely. EDIT: One huge advantage of having 60 megapixels is that I can switch to APS-C and get way more reach out of my lenses (especially telephoto) and still get 26 megapixels to play with. Kinda wish the next iteration of the m-line could come with 40-45 megapixels, but it won't happen.
U can just shoot in medium raw for 26mp WITHOUT APSC or small raw for 15mp...
Hello, Do you use your Leica M more?
I agree with you concerning the autofocus which is important in this type of photography.
After the simplicity of editing files with the Leica is still a time saver in post production for me.
I should try the A7iv because I am on A7riv, SL2S Q2 M11
Thanks for your video and Merry Christmas to you and your family
Great video. Love my A7IV.
The Sigma 24-70 lives on my FX3. I was a “prime lens snob” for the longest time. Now I want the Sigma 16-28 and 28-70 to increase the versatility of my A7IV.
Yea. I hit the sigma 14-24 the 24-70 and the tamron70-180. But I still prefer the 1.4 primes like the 35 and 85
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. Could you do a video comparaison a74 vs sl2s?thanks
This camera would be perfect if it wasn’t for the side hinged, take forever, conspicuous flippy flappy rear LCD.
Would you choose the Sony fx3 or the r6 mark ii for documentary/vlog content? I also like taking pictures. For some reason, I enjoy using canon cameras more than Sony.
How do the colors of the Sony complement with your other cameras? I see you are using different cameras nowadays also for your weddings.
I am invested into the Fujifilm universe with two xt3s and i am also doing weddings. so my concern is that i cannot use the sony easily as companion because of the colors. Is it hard to color your images the same way as you do with your fujis or leicas?
Sony's GM lenses are absolutely excellent - only Canon's very best RF lenses can match them, and maybe a couple like the 135/1.8 and 70-200/2.8 surpass Sony's versions. My current camera is about 5 years old now, I am waiting to see in 2023 what Panasonic do with the follow-up to the S1/S5 and Nikon do with the Z6iii, because really the a7IV and the R6ii meet essentially all of what I need in terms of pure specs. It is just about choosing the system you are most comfortable with in your needs and wants as a photographer. Great video! Anamorphic lenses look fun...how long until Sony makes a G Master anamorphic for E mount?!
The 24mm GM is easily one of my most favourite lenses ever, but when Fuji can make their 18mm 1.4 virtually perfect in terms of aberration control for almost half the cost of the Sony it does concern me that GM glass isn’t as good as the cost. Just like the canon RF 85 1.2.. it’s an incredible lens but not at 1.2
I don’t think the 70-200 surpasses the Sony GM II. If it does it’s just splitting hairs on one feature or another. All the latest generation flagship lenses are crazy good from Sony, Nikon and Canon. I just got the GM II, it is stupid nice. The 135 is the older generation of GM, I’ve heard it’s pretty nice but not at the level of the newer generation of GMs.
I think with the E-mount system there are quite a lot of third-party lenses that can match the GM series lens. On the prime lenses Sigma's DG DN 85mm F1.4 is better than GM 85mm F1.4 (which is a bit long in the teeth and needs an update), Sigma 105mm F1.4 surprisingly no competitor in this focal range but it is better than both GM85mm and GM135mm. Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8, Sigma 16mm-28mm or Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 are all excellent zoom lenses. What surprised me a bit is with Sigma. Sigma came out with their superb DG DN 85mm F1.4 almost 2 years ago, it was quite a light 85mm F1.4 barely 625g, I really hoped they can put out 40mm F1.2, 50mm F1.2, or replace the heavy 105mm F1.4 with a lighter replacement or 105mm F1.2 but Sigma seemed to stop producing or developing newer prime lenses for now. Nikon will be interesting. Nikon Z mount is a camera mount that can take advantage and use Sony E mount glass with a techart adapter.
@@jliang70 I have the Sigma 105 and the Tamron 35-150. Both are optically fantastic but there is no comparison between their AF speed and my 70-200 GMII. It has to be like 3x slower and that is still pretty fast but the GMII is another beast. If anything isn’t running and snapping onto different subjects like in a game you wouldn’t really care but once you do it’s very noticeable.
@@greggeis918 For 85mm and 105mm work fine and I don't like paying Sony tax in my country for their lenses.
In your earlier videos you were all about the dual M setup for your weddings. How does this fit alongside those, or have you switched altogether?
I’m going to do a video about my setup, but I still have 2 Leica M10s with a 28cron and a 50lux on each side. using the A7IV or GFX50S to supplement.
@pauldianaolije OH, My gosh! It's my lucky day! There's NO WAY this could POSSIBLY be a scam!
Whats the difference between setting an aps-c crop in camera as opposed to cropping in editing? Is it just to have the longer reach in your viewfinder?
From what I understand, it's essentially the same, except you're stuck with your apsc crop. In post, you choose whether to crop or not.
Looking to buy this camera to shoot nba games, as I have really good season tickets and have always wanted to make edits and what not. Do you recommend this camera and what lenses should i look to get with it?
Benj, I’m getting ready to finally get the a7iv! (It will be my main work horse camera.) I’m new to shooting weddings and currently only have the Sony a7iii. I know it’s standard to have two camera body’s. Would you recommend I swap my a7iii for a second a7iv? Or have one of each model? Thanks!
If you can have two of the same it’s so so nice for editing and continuity for sure.
Thank you! What would you say is the biggest difference for taking pictures with the a7iv vs the a7iii? I know you said you didn’t like the a7iii.
@adamcadenaphoto they changed up a lot of the menus/color/etc. I do prefer the told screen on the A7III though :)
have you tried the latest version of the Techart Leica M to Sony AF adapter? it's one more reason to no get a Leica SL2.
Hey! Whats the difference between cascade 1 and 2?
Thoughts on the techart Leica-M adapter?
I just switched from canon to the A7R V. I need a second body and was looking at the A7R IV due to cost. The colors seem to be different though. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Same sensor, different processors. Personally I'd go A7RV/A7IV over the A7RIV
@@benjhaisch thanks! I’ll have to check that one out. Do you think shooting the two on the same shoot would work well? I’ve always noticed the odd skin tones with Sony, but the A7R V has none of that. Just a bit nervous to combine 🤷🏻♂️ thanks again!
Thank you for your videos. I am not a wedding photographer. I do landscapes and travel photography. You stated that the autofocus on the Leica SL2S was "not there yet" compared to the two Sony bodies. For me, this is not quite as important as image quality, portability, and weather sealing.
Earlier this year, you posted a video on the Leica 50mm Summicron-SL on the SL2S. You have also commented extensively and favorably on the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM. I was wondering if you could compare the two? I need a really good 50mm with weather sealing. The combination of the Sony A7RV with the 50mm 1.2 GM would be about a third of a pound lighter than a Leica SL2 with 50mm Summicron-SL. However, would the image quality and character on the Sony setup be similar or comparable to the Leica? Thanks for any help you could give.
Hey Howard, yeah that’s a great comparison. For travel/landscape stuff, AF obviously wouldn’t be *as* necessary as with weddings and all of that movement. I really did love both and for me, I’d probably go with the 50/1.2GM for it’s size/weight and extra light gathering, but that 50 Summicron-SL is near perfection in terms of IQ. Not that the 50GM is any slouch, but the 50 Summicron-SL felt like it had medium format levels of detail and quality. Maybe that’s just off of the experience, but it did feel very commercial/editorial.
I do think the 50GM has great character though, probably more so than the Summicron-SL actually, but it’s all preference.
@@benjhaisch The last issue for me would be weather sealing. I know the Leica combination is rock solid in this area. Sony states that it is dust and moisture resistant, but not guaranteed to be 100% moisture and dust proof. Might you have had any experience with Sony cameras/lenses in the rain?
Would love to hear more about how this camera has become your "dad cam". Especially when I thought the X100V was that for you.
for when I want video :)
I don't need frame rates, I don't need 100mp. Just give the A7V a good rear screen and EVF FINALLY and I will have a camera for the next decade.
I'd love an A7IV update that kept everything the same but gave it the A7RV's EVF and LCD
@@benjhaisch Exactly, and it has been said over and over. Sony is the SCREEN company. That is their bread and butter. They should be using that as an advantageous selling point over the competition.
Holding out on the a7iv in hopes that they release an a7iva. I've got an a9 and a7iii for the time being, I'd love to upgrade, but having that lackluster lcd and evf combo kills the upgrade against my current set-up.
Do review for A7rv ?
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Just switching from Fuji to the A7IV, timely video, thanks!
Not comparable, Horses for courses. Comparsion between Apples vs Oranges. Perhaps you've not being the right person for Fujifilm, but just Sony. It's the gear industry, which always tell ya, 35mm digital is better than APS-C, whileas X-Trans APS-C is excellent, for many things.
And you haven't seen a pro Landscape Photographer - Andy Mumfold, after using Fujifilm gear for 6 years -
Full Frame to Fuji - 6 Years Later As A Landscape Photographer:
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I own 2 FF setups, and *if* shooting digital, then it's Fujifilm, clearly.
@@marcp.1752 agreed I have an R5 canon and XT4 and XH2S I just use them for different things. I’d probably keep the Fuji and sell everything else if I was in a bind.
@@robmcd I have the X100 LE, X-E1/2, X-T1 (graphite). It's enough. Also other (old) gear, but it's enough. Possible selling something into next year, but not my Fujis.
I picked up an A7iv this summer after shooting Fuji for 7 years. Wow. Just wow. I did a YT video about it. I’ve since sold all my Fuji gear (except 100V). Quickly bought an FX3 to compliment it and it’s just a dream combo.
Ok, I love Sony. I’ve a a7r4 and A7c with 20G, 135GM, 24-70GMII, 35, 50, 85mm, +++ … lenses and they make the job but I’m disappointed because since 2020, Sony didn’t release new firmware for these cameras and lenses.
I’ve also the amazing Fuji X-H2, +++ … and Fuji released a lot of firmware.
Same for Leica SL-2S and Q2, firmware are regularly delivered 😅
I miss using manual focus M-mount lenses (used to shoot bessas in the 00s). Right now I'm a fuji X guy, and while manual focusing is possible, it's not awesome. (also, cropped, bleh.) I'm working on getting a used sl2-s cuz it sounds like that might be the best platform for m-mount lenses (aside from actual m cameras). How is the experience of using m-mount lenses on this sony?
Maybe look at Voigtlander's X mount Fuji lenses?
@@joetrent4753 I've tried several different manual focus lenses (ttartisan, 7artisan) on my fuji cameras. I've used focus peaking. I've tried without. I've tried punch-in, etc. Yes, I can focus it, but it's just not a happy-making experience for me. It's been many years since I actually held rangefinder cameras in my hands, but I remember it being much easier. (And maybe it is only nostalgia, but maybe it was just easier.)
Using M mount lenses on the A7IV is not as good as manually focusing E mount lenses. When you turn the focus ring on a native lens the auto magnifier automatically kicks in. When you stop turning the ring for a second or do a half shutter press the focus magnification kicks out. When you combine that with focus peaking it becomes a snap to quickly focus even with the low-res EVF. I'm very happy with manual focus on native lenses. Without electronic contacts that let the camera know that you are turning the focus ring, which is what you get with adapted lenses, you have to assign a custom button to use the focus magnifier, which is perfectly fine. Unfortunately, you can only exit focus magnification by either pressing the custom button and toggling through all of the focus magnification levels or setting a 2s or 5s timeout on the focus magnifier. That makes the experience frustrating compared to using E mount lenses. It would be trivially fixable in firmware. All they have to do is make a half-press end focus magnification when it is initiated by the focus magnifier button just as it does with auto magnification turned on. If you don't use focus magnification for manual focus, then it's perfectly fine as-is.
Disregard everything I just wrote. I just discovered that if you set "AF in Focus Mag" to "Off" then manual focus with my M-mount lenses works as I would like. With this setting, a half-press exits focus magnification when using a lens that doesn't communicate to the camera. Because of course that's what it does. Am I glad I took the time to reply to you! I'll be walking around with old Nikkors and Leica lenses soon.
@@saramdipm I use Voigtlander E mount lenses on my Sony and have magnify set to off as I found it became quite annoying. I just have a custom button set to magnify. I do use zone focusing and pre-focusing a lot though.
Will you do new LR presets for Sony?
My newest set will be developed with a LOT more Sony in mind than the previous ones. Hoping to release in Q1 2023. 02 works really well with Sony though with some tweaks.
I've been extremely disappointed by the A7iv in a specific case : people running, cloudy weather, 70 200 f2.8 GM2. Great subject recognition and tracking, but only 30 % of sharp pictures. Many back focused, especially people with long hair. Unusable for this case.
Otherwise very nice camera.
The conclusion at 0:52 - Benj has a lot of money! Or he doesn't anymore because he spent it all on gear, like the rest of us.. 😅
haha! nah, just tools that I've accumulated over the years ;)
A lot of "really really" in this video 😂
it all sounds nice but the price ...fucking hell !!!!
niceee
Sony is the ugliest camera in the market. You would think they'd change that. 🤷🏽♂️
Its a forged billet of magnesium, it looks incredibly good