Computer science is all about feeling stupid first then not give up and feel less stupid as you pick things up. But you will always feel stupid when you start something new, that how it works. Don't give up and you'll feel good about it at some point.
I wanted to drop out of my second and third semesters of CS due to the idea that I wasn't great at programming. I stayed in... It payed off. The reality is that you are acquiring preliminary job skills. Industry will shape the rest of those skills. Remember, there are no such things as a dream job. A dream job at the end of the day is still a job. Motivation is the key... not dreams. Build skill and make money!
Computer Science is very hard but let me say this to give some encouragement to those who feels it might not be right for them. If you stick with it and stay on course you will eventually succeed. My university allow a maximum of 4 failed courses where you can repeat it to replace the failed grades. I failed 4 different courses and had to repeat them to replace their grades. I managed to graduate within 5 years (quarter system) with a slightly better than 3.0 GPA out of 4.0. It took me a few years after graduating to find a good high paying job (you will have a few years of job hunting slump) but I managed to do it. After working for a couple of years I was able to save enough to put a down payment on a brand new house (the house was still under construction at the time, so I'm the first to break into it per se) and bought a brand new car. Computer Science will give you the life you've always wanted. The hard part is just putting forth your maximum effort and not giving up. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it. It could end up saving you a few exams that you would have failed otherwise. Just from my personal experience.
VersionBest yeah you could say this and that but how if I can't spend much time in studying? I don't wanna sacrifice my social life. Many of my friends are unable to socialize because most of their times are spent studying and studying.
"the only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" -Albert Einstein Study hard and one day, no matter how "dumb" you are, you´ll still be able to make your dreams come true!
Update😑😐 I started with Diskret Math and Functional programming Haskell. Focus on logic, proofs,functions, injectiv bijective and surjectiv functions. And it depends on your college of they teach you Haskell start with thia website: Learnyouhaskell judt google it😀 I am having reaaallly hard times I understand nothing in math classes😢
I joined the Air force as a Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief. I wasn't a mechanic when I joined and I didn't even know how to change oil in my car. My first 2-3 years sucked. I was horrible at my job and everybody I worked with knew it. Nothing clicked for me, I was weak and I couldn't catch on. I hated it.... completely embarrassing. Anyways, I'm 7 years in now and things have completely changed. I can run circles around most people on the flightline. Guys that I that were awesome at being at mechanic, I now think (there okay lol)... To be honest, if I was allowed to quit, I would have and I would never have known I would be good at it. A year from now I'm going to get out pursue this I.T. Job i've been dreaming about for a long time. Even considering going to school for computer science. I'm scared to death of not making it. Honestly just stick to it. You and I should be okay :)
Tommy Maroney bruh military is different from college. If you suck at it and it doesn't click your grades will show lol. I served in the marines 4 years, first job ever, going from having no job, to being an infantry rifleman. Nothing clicked, I had to learn dozens of weapon systems inside and out, I had to become a critical thinker on the fly with no real challenge of being a critical thinker in the past, but because of my contract and no "failing" criteria while working, I wasn't stressing about how if I don't do well in a year that I would be dropped lol. Meanwhile in college, if you're struggling in a com sci major class, and if you struggle the whole semester, you'll simply fail, or get a low grade and ruin your chances of being hired in the future lol
Coming from the perspective of a computer science student who is taking 3, 300 level, 4 credit computer science classes... I can definitely reassure that if you lack in motivation, you will struggle. A LOT.
Thanks Eli, I've been eager to get into the Computer Science major at my college; though, the fear of failure and lack of confidence in my coding abilities have held me back.
Is anything worth doing(and worth getting paid for) not hard? Because I don't think there is such a thing. Everything requires focus, time, and patience. Everything is a grind. The only difference is finding a grind that you tolerate or enjoy.
Not really. It's less about the effort involved and more about how you tolerate the work. If you try, you can come up with dozens of examples of both high effort, and low effort (what people tend to think of as difficulty) work that are "worth doing".
Lol EVERYONE LIES about how much time they need to study cause they like to act like they have a life. Even my cousin and close friends I see them tells others things like, yeah I only study maybe 2 hours a week, or yeah I studied like 30 mins a day and did fine. And then, in reality, they all study 2 -3 times more than that. And then when exam week comes around they literally do nothing else. So if someone ever feels dumb because everyone else is making it so much more easily than you, remember, they all feel dumb to, and they all lie about how hard it is because that's just who we are.
Thanks for the video. I was questioning myself for starting university to do computer science at such an odd age .(30's) If I'd be smart enough, or if I'd be able to keep up with my younger peers. I love coding, I've just been learning on the internet and also took a local class for website development and I find it fascinating! It seems to give me energy, it's like an addiction for me. I'll sit down at the computer and it will be several hours later, so I'll tell myself only a few more lines then a break...that break never comes I forget about time again. Knowing that its not the immediate skill level but the drive to do computing that will lead to eventual success while getting my degree; so helpful and encouraging. Thanks again!
Thanks Eli your an inspiration... I'm currently doing a Bachelors in IT and yesterday I'm 95% sure I failed my Java Exam. I was contemplating throwing in the towel until watching this video, considering I have a friend that's an experienced programmer and friends in my class are much better at it than I am yet they have done it previously. It's my first attempt at Java and my results were making my overall outlook for the degree very pessimistic! Now I think I will continue on and just repeat the class. Thanks again! TLDR - Stumbled across this video randomly and its possibly just changed my life...
I think the point of a degree, is that it isn't supposed to be easy, if it was, everyone would have one. The fact that you have gotten through a year so far and have not failed, would indicate you should stick with it. I just completed a masters degree in comp Sci and there were times when I wanted to quite; but I'm so glad I stuck with it. Stick at it and good luck.
Do it Just do it Don't let your dreams be dreams Yesterday you said tomorrow So just do it Make your dreams come true Just do it Some people dream of success While you're gonna wake up and work hard at it Nothing is impossible You should get to the point Where anyone else would quit And you're not going to stop there No, what are you waiting for? Do it Just do it Yes you can Just do it If you're tired of starting over Stop giving up -Shia Labeouf
4 years ago I saw thsi video and was very fearful and didnt think I wasn't smart enough... going to graduate in 2 weeks secured a solid job with a 3.7 gpa. Guys beleive in ourself give it ur all, it's going to be hard, but just dont give up keep going.. if u spend 50 hours to do a homework assignment and u only get 50%.. congrats be proud of that.. hey I did that last week. Jeep going
Good video! I just recently changed my major from Computer Science to Criminal Justice at my university. The problem for me was never really the difficulty per se as I've done tons of math before getting to my intro CS class. I just didn't like being in front of that compiler and wasn't giddy over new programming languages like some of my classmates were. I think it would be a fun hobby for me to have, but actually doing coding 40+ hours a week is just something I don't wanna do. I'm really into learning about criminal justice as I really like LE type stuff. I'm also taking some accounting classes since I enjoy doing math for the most part :) Computer Science is an excellent career but it just wasn't for me in the end
I look at programming like typing at first you're looking around for the letters you want but over time you start to pick up the pace without looking down
These comments are really encouraging. I'm a Computer Science student, and I've had so many struggles in programming. I do like thinking how to solve problems, but when it doesn't work well, I was so depressed I feel like such a stupid. Cuz sometimes my friends solve it really fast when I've got stuck in it. I know I should keep trying hard and just practicing. Thank u for video and the comments:)
Brilliant channel, Eli. I'm at the end of my third year in Computer Science and I feel like you are answering a lot of my insecurities on your channel. Cheers mate.
Change your perspective. Realize what you are doing and why are you doing it. Evaluate yourself and the position you want to have in this world and what you want to achieve in this life, then ask yourself the question again (this goes for anything).
Many IT organizations track every minute you are on site. Some even track keystrokes. I got in trouble for creating a project category to keep track of the time I spent tracking myself!
+ BlankBrain At least at the big Wall St. law firms you get to keep track of your own time. www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/business/dealbook/law-firm-salaries-jump-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-a-decade.html. The tradeoff is that you have to get 80 chargeable hours a week. I'll let you do the math, but point out that there are 168 clock hours in a week. You decide when to sleep, eat, commute, s***, keep up with continuing ed requirements, keep up with the news (this is Wall St.), etc. I will also point out that it's technically unethical and illegal to charge multiple clients for the same time or the same work product _without prior written consent_. (Apparently unless you get caught, but that's a different(?) story.)
Thanks for addressing the overuse of 'passion' and instead think of 'motivation'. People find themselves linking passion and how easy they find something. Still, it can get confusing confirming whether or not you want to be coding... "Do I not want to do it right now because it's hard and I don't enjoy not being able to think of something and end up sitting still? Or do I not want to be doing this because I don't enjoy coding that much?" Am I missing the point? Btw this doesn't have to be coding, but anything you're trying to learn.
If you're interested in coding and you want to get a degree in computer science, it will help you immensely if you pick up coding on your own (over summer break maybe) and attend a community college instead of a university. Community colleges generally give a lighter workload but are more relevant to you and are directed more towards actually teaching you rather than just giving you deadlines for busy work. That's what I've found at least.
I took a vocational IT class on 4 different Comptia Certs and was the slowest/lowest one in the class. I came in cold (not knowing a lot, just basics). Wound up liking some n hating other topics. However it gave me a great platform/understanding for being motivated about tech and computer things. I have a great passion for the tech/computer world now and am pursuing webmaster/social marketing. Met a guy in class that got me into webmaster and I haven't been this motivated about something in awhile! Mostly self taught now and continuing self learning.
Very encouraging message and also a great reminder of common sense. How does the saying go? "If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life". People who get into career that they have little interest in are bound to fail but if you have your mind set and made up on knowing that the choice you made was what you stand for, eventually you will get better. Like you said being slow isn't the problem but the individuals lack of motivation or interest. If you don't have the motivation don't expect anything to get better. Thanks for this great video.
Thank you for this video! Currently teaching myself Java in preparation for my college course this fall. I'm an adult learner and I have questioned myself in the past with other courses such as Calculus but I stuck through and did well. I had similar feelings about Comp. Sci until I watched your video.
Just left computer science at the university of Arizona. I hated it, but I love computers as a hobby. My advice to anyone who is thinking of doing computer science is try a class and if you like it and are good at it go ahead do it. On the other hand, if you don't enjoy it after taking the entry level course I would do something else. Don't force yourself to do it if you don't like it. I am glad I am done with it forever. I am doing accounting instead.
wow. im a first semester CS student and i am doing well in my CS class but I've looked at some leetcode problems and seen how hard they are and thought about how I wouldn't really be able to write code easily by myself if i tried. It scares me how difficult it will be for me to not only get the degree, but succeed in the industry. This video really helped i think. You made me realize i don't need to be the best, i really just need to know what im doing and be good at it. thanks man.
When you hate something, like programming, it could be because you're not good at it. Sometimes, it's not because you don't feel like staring at a computer for hours. In my opinion, I feel you will never hate something if 1) you like the applications of it 2) you enjoy /value the process of doing it, for example do you like memorizing more or problem solving more 3) can you do the job for less money. If you got all 3, you're golden.
If you love doing it AND it is in demand keep with it. Programming is a skill and like all skills it takes time and effort to learn, but it can be learned.
Keep in mind, motivation isn't constant. There are going to be times where you've been stuck on one particular bug or issue and it's killed your motivation. That's normal, you just have to power through it. The bugs get easier to solve the more you run into them. Null pointer exception? Check the error line for anything obvious and if that doesn't work then step through the debugger. What used to take an hour, I can have fixed in just a few minutes simply because I've seen it before.
Thanks for the video. I could have done with this advice a little while back. I completed my computer science degree in 2000. I started off my degree motivated, but halfway through I was overwhelmed with self doubt, anxiety and a fear of failure. I didn't go very deep into solving problems with technology, so I learnt very little and had no confidence. I somehow got through, but I wasn't ready for a job as a programmer. Subsequently I got pushed out of my first job. I got out of IT for a few years thinking I was a failure. But I'm back now after maturing from life experiences. I'm doing well in a great job in a major company. But I'm not a programmer...so still a bit disappointed in myself and wonder what could have been. Thanks for your videos though
The secret to improving at computer science is to do it for the right reason. I’ve failed CS courses and I’m doing about average (a C grade) in my Data Structures class but I’ve learned to be okay with it because the stuff I’m learning is really interesting and super cool. I don’t compare myself to others with more experience who pick the concepts up more easily and I don’t go through the classes so I can make a ton of money when I graduate. I code because I like it even if it is a difficult skill to learn and I’ve realized that everybody picks up this skill at different rates so the key is to be patient with yourself. Stick to it and you will get better. For reference, I came into college as probably one of the worst CS students in the major. I could not write basic programs like inputting/outputting strings and I definitely did not understand object oriented programming. I literally thought problem solving was magic and could not grasp the process of breaking a big problem down into smaller ones.
My problem is that I hate it at first then I go insane to find the solution to the problem. I will search the whole internet to find the answer. When I learn the concept, I don't need to search for it anymore. Are these good things as an CS student? And plus, I'm not good at math.
I mean, I don't have motivation for anything except playing video games occasionally, watching youtube videos, and daydreaming that I have superpowers. ...So what do you make of that? Am I just doomed to be miserable with work?
Thanks Eli, I have been questioning this since 2006? I have been on and off this coding stuff for the past SEVEN years. I still know a lot about programming but i still feel I wasn't good at programming. And I am not sure, But this video helps a lot. Thanks again
I am not the greatest coder, but i am pretty good and quick. I enjoy coding a lot, on my free time or when i need to clear my head at work I will write silly little programs. I enjoy coding quite a bit more than the average programmer, i love the challenge of making a model up and implementing it. That being said, i struggled with programming in school for the first year or so. I always felt like everyone else had an easier time programming that i did and i wouldn't have made it through my course without the help of my group of CS friends. Struggling in CS is to be expected for all but a small amount of people
"..the difference between a musician and a rockstar is that the rockstar is a rockstar." This logic is so simple yet so beautiful. I laughed, I cried, I found myself.
You can read and understand the tutorials about the language, but when and how you should use them or what more you need to find out is the trouble, that is why you need to look up more on stuff on what you don't know, to help you out. That is one of the reason stack overflow, etc exists.
Programming is a Combination of Good Memory and Intelligence. Lets say you know a new language ,you should remember its function and syntax and again those ....small functions and associations makes a brilliant Code,but lets say you have bad memory ,but good intelligence then the learning time would b much slower then other person,you might look like a slow Coder,Understand this weak memory problem can be solved by doing simple task again and again and one day you would be Champion ,but you cannot fight poor Intelligence. So, Please understand you're problem first is it poor memory ?or you do not understand the concepts ,and then plan accordingly .
i am not able to do programming and i am getting suck at every level of programming but thanks for lifting up my courage and may be be one day i can become better in the future working in big multinational companies.
I've always wanted to be able to "code" to develop, always kind of payed attention to programming and thought about doing it, but thought it would be too difficult for me. Stopped being so pessimistic and now i'm trying to learn Java as my first language so I can later get into android development, taking courses on treehouse and bought a couple "beginner" java books. The hardest thing for me is keeping up and trying to understand the syntax and being a beginner it seems like they expect you to know all the syntax terminology. Anyone have some advice for a beginner on what to do to learn terms before trying to immerse yourself in a new language?
Start off with python, it is a simple language. But that said, it is a programming language. So, that means that you have be persistent and be willing to feel the pain while learning it. After that it becomes easy and then you can learn more difficult languages like Java and JavaScript.
I honestly wonder if IT is for me. I've been stuck at tech support / helpdesk for a long time and I leave work frustrated. I told my self that if I push myself into cyber security it might be worth it. Seeing this video and the comments below really encourage me to push harder. Thank you
Sometimes is more about a choice if you want to make it out from your reality,if you are broke and do not have the same opportunities as others(maybe you are an international student like me),then that could be your motivation regardless if you like it or not
Most people would struggle through a CS degree. I think spending a year or 2 teaching yourself is a great start, maybe go back and get the degree if you are willing to invest the 4 years. Then there is understanding the job market. It seems that a big part of landing a programming job, is people skills. My thinking for all technical jobs was, it was 99% technical skills and the other 1% is showing up on time. But it seems like its 50% soft skills and 50% being willing to adapt and learn new technology. A degree will represent your willingness to learn new things, a git hub account is a way to show off some programs you made.
Hello Eli, I've been watching you channel for some time and there is a question stacked into my brain which I am ashamed to ask, however you might actually help me. Is there any chance for 40 years old unexperienced guy to get a job in IT . I know that there are many jobs available on the market but what is actual reality for more mature generation of people who never had a chance to get into IT.
I'm self-studying various topics in computer science for a few years now. Lately it has become more frustrating. Often when I overcome procrastination, and sit down focused to learn a specific new skill, I still end up doing something completly different, because there is f.ex. some problem with the OS, or a specific library, and dependency etc. and I have to spend a lot of time solving those other problems first, which I'm not really that interested in. I'm in the dark, if and when I can solve those problems, the solutions on stackoverflow are mostly above my understanding, and I don't even know, where to research next. I hit several deadlocks. I got a book on how Linux works last week, and probably will try to become a Windows power user too, but if that doesn't help, I fear I have to realize, that computer science is just not my cup of tea, and I'm better off letting go, and do something else with my life.
Don't cut the man or the man will cut you. In 5 or 10 years you'll regret quitting, you'll think man if I only stuck with it I could of been a senior lead developer.
Thanks guys, all the comments were worth encouraging. I'm about to start my undergraduate degree on computer science. I don't have a clue on computer science.
+BetterCallSaul Its a much more malleable and practical form of math.I could spit out x+y-13b*1000g=taco. and you would say that was a math question. But if i say screen.width/2 = centerpoint.
I keep saying I hate programming, but the truth is, I hate how it makes me feel stupid.
+jagjit bhatia I'm in CS AP and I'm making around 75s on average
Yea dude, it's a pretty hard class.
jagjit bhatia yea it is
How did you feel about the AP test? Wasn't it last week?
jagjit bhatia i believe it was 2 weeks ago. It was hard but if you know the material it makes it less harder
Computer science is all about feeling stupid first then not give up and feel less stupid as you pick things up. But you will always feel stupid when you start something new, that how it works. Don't give up and you'll feel good about it at some point.
Edouard Barbier thanks
Thanks x2
thank you so much for the motivation!!.
jatte bra,jette bra,stor pojkan,stor pojkan,om lidt er du neurofysiolog!
I wanted to drop out of my second and third semesters of CS due to the idea that I wasn't great at programming. I stayed in... It payed off. The reality is that you are acquiring preliminary job skills. Industry will shape the rest of those skills. Remember, there are no such things as a dream job. A dream job at the end of the day is still a job. Motivation is the key... not dreams. Build skill and make money!
Computer Science is very hard but let me say this to give some encouragement to those who feels it might not be right for them. If you stick with it and stay on course you will eventually succeed. My university allow a maximum of 4 failed courses where you can repeat it to replace the failed grades. I failed 4 different courses and had to repeat them to replace their grades. I managed to graduate within 5 years (quarter system) with a slightly better than 3.0 GPA out of 4.0. It took me a few years after graduating to find a good high paying job (you will have a few years of job hunting slump) but I managed to do it. After working for a couple of years I was able to save enough to put a down payment on a brand new house (the house was still under construction at the time, so I'm the first to break into it per se) and bought a brand new car. Computer Science will give you the life you've always wanted. The hard part is just putting forth your maximum effort and not giving up. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it. It could end up saving you a few exams that you would have failed otherwise. Just from my personal experience.
Thanks for the advice.
It took you a few years to find a job? Why?
VISION possibly because of the location there at
Definitely a correlation I can agree with. I would've relocated, though. Some interviews can be done over Skype.
VersionBest yeah you could say this and that but how if I can't spend much time in studying? I don't wanna sacrifice my social life. Many of my friends are unable to socialize because most of their times are spent studying and studying.
"the only place success comes before work is in the dictionary"
-Albert Einstein
Study hard and one day, no matter how "dumb" you are, you´ll still be able to make your dreams come true!
A Person thank you.. love this comment!
A Person Great comment!
...the only sad thing is that in my native language "works" comes before "success"... I can't reuse it :(
Then you can say that success comes after work.
That's Vince Lombardi. Great quote though!
That's not Einstein... Stop citing a random quote you find as Einsteins, its weird.
while i was in college i didn't understanding a thing about coding for almost 6 or 7 months. Now 3 years later i am quite good at it
Same. For a while everything just feels weird, after a while I start to realize "oh this weird thing fits into this weird thing, and it makes sense!"
Now after 2 years please can you enlighten me wether I would survive getting in CS I will start computer science in September🤓😖😭😓😫
Update😑😐 I started with Diskret Math and Functional programming Haskell. Focus on logic, proofs,functions, injectiv bijective and surjectiv functions. And it depends on your college of they teach you Haskell start with thia website: Learnyouhaskell judt google it😀 I am having reaaallly hard times I understand nothing in math classes😢
Mate, I'm like 2 years in and I still don't get a huge amount
This is very encouraging as I had the same concerns as anonymous. Thanks, Eli!
I joined the Air force as a Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief. I wasn't a mechanic when I joined and I didn't even know how to change oil in my car. My first 2-3 years sucked. I was horrible at my job and everybody I worked with knew it. Nothing clicked for me, I was weak and I couldn't catch on. I hated it.... completely embarrassing. Anyways, I'm 7 years in now and things have completely changed. I can run circles around most people on the flightline. Guys that I that were awesome at being at mechanic, I now think (there okay lol)... To be honest, if I was allowed to quit, I would have and I would never have known I would be good at it. A year from now I'm going to get out pursue this I.T. Job i've been dreaming about for a long time. Even considering going to school for computer science. I'm scared to death of not making it. Honestly just stick to it. You and I should be okay :)
USAF vet here. thanks for the story. Glad to see USAF helped you get ahead in life! keep bustin your ass and you will do great!
Tommy Maroney did you move into the computer side of things?
Are you Tony Stark??🤔
Tommy Maroney bruh military is different from college. If you suck at it and it doesn't click your grades will show lol. I served in the marines 4 years, first job ever, going from having no job, to being an infantry rifleman. Nothing clicked, I had to learn dozens of weapon systems inside and out, I had to become a critical thinker on the fly with no real challenge of being a critical thinker in the past, but because of my contract and no "failing" criteria while working, I wasn't stressing about how if I don't do well in a year that I would be dropped lol.
Meanwhile in college, if you're struggling in a com sci major class, and if you struggle the whole semester, you'll simply fail, or get a low grade and ruin your chances of being hired in the future lol
Can you update us what happened with you in computer science🤔 In September I will start it😣
Coming from the perspective of a computer science student who is taking 3, 300 level, 4 credit computer science classes... I can definitely reassure that if you lack in motivation, you will struggle. A LOT.
+Diego Bustamante level 300? HOLY SIHT
+CLIn7 l33tW00d what the hell is that ? I'm also in CS but not in the US.
Level 300 is basically your 3rd year/junior year cs courses for the most part.
How to build that motivation?
i just dispise the math classes
Regardless of how hard it is, if you enjoy the process of learning and you enjoy the small results you get while practicing, I say keep going
Thanks Eli, I've been eager to get into the Computer Science major at my college; though, the fear of failure and lack of confidence in my coding abilities have held me back.
Raul Roel What happened now can you update us please did you get into CS 🤔 I will start it in September
@@learnsfi2422 how are you finding it ? it's been hell for me so far
@@TheSteveo909 How are you now? Are you a Junior/Senior now in your computer science program?
Nothing in life is easy.
+Nasty dM no
+Adam Odinmann "SAYING NO PRANK (2016) (IN THE HOOD)"
+Nasty dM well, some things are, but they're probably not worth much at all
Breathing is pretty easy for most. I think that's worth doing.
+Nasty dM Eating is! LOLs.
Is anything worth doing(and worth getting paid for) not hard? Because I don't think there is such a thing. Everything requires focus, time, and patience. Everything is a grind. The only difference is finding a grind that you tolerate or enjoy.
+Juan Nunez (Faded Endless) no
+Juan Nunez (Faded Endless) breathing is worth doing and easy and you can get paid for it if you're on welfare
+sep yess
Not really. It's less about the effort involved and more about how you tolerate the work. If you try, you can come up with dozens of examples of both high effort, and low effort (what people tend to think of as difficulty) work that are "worth doing".
Juan Nunez Working at McDonald's?
Lol EVERYONE LIES about how much time they need to study cause they like to act like they have a life. Even my cousin and close friends I see them tells others things like, yeah I only study maybe 2 hours a week, or yeah I studied like 30 mins a day and did fine. And then, in reality, they all study 2 -3 times more than that. And then when exam week comes around they literally do nothing else. So if someone ever feels dumb because everyone else is making it so much more easily than you, remember, they all feel dumb to, and they all lie about how hard it is because that's just who we are.
Exactly. If you think of how other people are doing all the time then you're gonna be having a bad time. Think of your own progress and improvements.
Thanks for the video. I was questioning myself for starting university to do computer science at such an odd age .(30's) If I'd be smart enough, or if I'd be able to keep up with my younger peers.
I love coding, I've just been learning on the internet and also took a local class for website development and I find it fascinating! It seems to give me energy, it's like an addiction for me. I'll sit down at the computer and it will be several hours later, so I'll tell myself only a few more lines then a break...that break never comes I forget about time again.
Knowing that its not the immediate skill level but the drive to do computing that will lead to eventual success while getting my degree; so helpful and encouraging. Thanks again!
coloringpencil how’s it going?
I'm in the same boat, how is it working for u?
Thanks Eli your an inspiration... I'm currently doing a Bachelors in IT and yesterday I'm 95% sure I failed my Java Exam. I was contemplating throwing in the towel until watching this video, considering I have a friend that's an experienced programmer and friends in my class are much better at it than I am yet they have done it previously. It's my first attempt at Java and my results were making my overall outlook for the degree very pessimistic! Now I think I will continue on and just repeat the class. Thanks again!
TLDR - Stumbled across this video randomly and its possibly just changed my life...
How u doing nowadays
I love how this man talks.. the deameanor, the realistic, the jokes, the wisdom. Good guy fr!
"The difference between a musician and a rockstar is that a rockstar is a rockstar"
I think the point of a degree, is that it isn't supposed to be easy, if it was, everyone would have one. The fact that you have gotten through a year so far and have not failed, would indicate you should stick with it.
I just completed a masters degree in comp Sci and there were times when I wanted to quite; but I'm so glad I stuck with it. Stick at it and good luck.
Clare Jonsson does computer science have great job opportunities and is there potential abroad? Im from the philippines btwp
Do it
Just do it
Don't let your dreams be dreams
Yesterday you said tomorrow
So just do it
Make your dreams come true
Just do it
Some people dream of success
While you're gonna wake up and work hard at it
Nothing is impossible
You should get to the point
Where anyone else would quit
And you're not going to stop there
No, what are you waiting for?
Do it
Just do it
Yes you can
Just do it
If you're tired of starting over
Stop giving up
-Shia Labeouf
i got goosebumps hahahahaha
Shat if you do a whole weekend of coding? And then you end up getting a 25/100 in your mid term lol ... idk anymore man
4 years ago I saw thsi video and was very fearful and didnt think I wasn't smart enough... going to graduate in 2 weeks secured a solid job with a 3.7 gpa. Guys beleive in ourself give it ur all, it's going to be hard, but just dont give up keep going.. if u spend 50 hours to do a homework assignment and u only get 50%.. congrats be proud of that.. hey I did that last week. Jeep going
Good video! I just recently changed my major from Computer Science to Criminal Justice at my university. The problem for me was never really the difficulty per se as I've done tons of math before getting to my intro CS class. I just didn't like being in front of that compiler and wasn't giddy over new programming languages like some of my classmates were. I think it would be a fun hobby for me to have, but actually doing coding 40+ hours a week is just something I don't wanna do. I'm really into learning about criminal justice as I really like LE type stuff. I'm also taking some accounting classes since I enjoy doing math for the most part :) Computer Science is an excellent career but it just wasn't for me in the end
I look at programming like typing at first you're looking around for the letters you want but over time you start to pick up the pace without looking down
Could you make a video about the differences between IT and Computer Science.
Aero computer science is basically creating software, IT is setting up computer systems and maintaining them (repairing, etc.)
IT is not just setting up systems and maintaining a lot of fields such as cyber security and business analytics.
Love this channel's realistic optimism
These comments are really encouraging. I'm a Computer Science student, and I've had so many struggles in programming. I do like thinking how to solve problems, but when it doesn't work well, I was so depressed I feel like such a stupid. Cuz sometimes my friends solve it really fast when I've got stuck in it. I know I should keep trying hard and just practicing. Thank u for video and the comments:)
Brilliant channel, Eli. I'm at the end of my third year in Computer Science and I feel like you are answering a lot of my insecurities on your channel. Cheers mate.
You! Yes You! Never Give Up! Never Quit! Success Never Comes From (COMFORT ZONE)
Change your perspective. Realize what you are doing and why are you doing it. Evaluate yourself and the position you want to have in this world and what you want to achieve in this life, then ask yourself the question again (this goes for anything).
Many IT organizations track every minute you are on site. Some even track keystrokes. I got in trouble for creating a project category to keep track of the time I spent tracking myself!
BlankBrain rofl
+ BlankBrain
At least at the big Wall St. law firms you get to keep track of your own time. www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/business/dealbook/law-firm-salaries-jump-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-a-decade.html. The tradeoff is that you have to get 80 chargeable hours a week. I'll let you do the math, but point out that there are 168 clock hours in a week. You decide when to sleep, eat, commute, s***, keep up with continuing ed requirements, keep up with the news (this is Wall St.), etc. I will also point out that it's technically unethical and illegal to charge multiple clients for the same time or the same work product _without prior written consent_. (Apparently unless you get caught, but that's a different(?) story.)
Thank you, Eli. This helps me keep my head up and keep going in this.
Thanks for addressing the overuse of 'passion' and instead think of 'motivation'. People find themselves linking passion and how easy they find something.
Still, it can get confusing confirming whether or not you want to be coding... "Do I not want to do it right now because it's hard and I don't enjoy not being able to think of something and end up sitting still? Or do I not want to be doing this because I don't enjoy coding that much?" Am I missing the point? Btw this doesn't have to be coding, but anything you're trying to learn.
If you're interested in coding and you want to get a degree in computer science, it will help you immensely if you pick up coding on your own (over summer break maybe) and attend a community college instead of a university. Community colleges generally give a lighter workload but are more relevant to you and are directed more towards actually teaching you rather than just giving you deadlines for busy work. That's what I've found at least.
I took a vocational IT class on 4 different Comptia Certs and was the slowest/lowest one in the class. I came in cold (not knowing a lot, just basics). Wound up liking some n hating other topics. However it gave me a great platform/understanding for being motivated about tech and computer things. I have a great passion for the tech/computer world now and am pursuing webmaster/social marketing. Met a guy in class that got me into webmaster and I haven't been this motivated about something in awhile! Mostly self taught now and continuing self learning.
Very encouraging message and also a great reminder of common sense. How does the saying go? "If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life". People who get into career that they have little interest in are bound to fail but if you have your mind set and made up on knowing that the choice you made was what you stand for, eventually you will get better. Like you said being slow isn't the problem but the individuals lack of motivation or interest. If you don't have the motivation don't expect anything to get better. Thanks for this great video.
Love the honesty Eli ..always a pleasure watching your videos since 2 years n have learned a lot..regards from Toronto
Thank you for this video! Currently teaching myself Java in preparation for my college course this fall. I'm an adult learner and I have questioned myself in the past with other courses such as Calculus but I stuck through and did well. I had similar feelings about Comp. Sci until I watched your video.
Just left computer science at the university of Arizona. I hated it, but I love computers as a hobby. My advice to anyone who is thinking of doing computer science is try a class and if you like it and are good at it go ahead do it. On the other hand, if you don't enjoy it after taking the entry level course I would do something else. Don't force yourself to do it if you don't like it. I am glad I am done with it forever. I am doing accounting instead.
I needed to hear this. Thank you.
I got a CS Diploma, hated coding so much i now work manual labor at a factory lol.
wow. im a first semester CS student and i am doing well in my CS class but I've looked at some leetcode problems and seen how hard they are and thought about how I wouldn't really be able to write code easily by myself if i tried. It scares me how difficult it will be for me to not only get the degree, but succeed in the industry. This video really helped i think. You made me realize i don't need to be the best, i really just need to know what im doing and be good at it. thanks man.
When you hate something, like programming, it could be because you're not good at it. Sometimes, it's not because you don't feel like staring at a computer for hours. In my opinion, I feel you will never hate something if 1) you like the applications of it 2) you enjoy /value the process of doing it, for example do you like memorizing more or problem solving more 3) can you do the job for less money. If you got all 3, you're golden.
Ralph Ng what if I'm better with memorization and not so much the problem solving
GradeA sent me hear. I was procrastinating and had some self doubt but glad I found you dude, going back to work now
here*
How did GradeA bring you here? I am curious
ThatDudeJCrash No idea.
+yo the person “Grumpy Space Cat” is a peter Why reply if it obviously wasn't for you, and why give a crap about a typo
SUBTERRANEAN SUSPECT Welcome to the grammar nazi!
If you love doing it AND it is in demand keep with it. Programming is a skill and like all skills it takes time and effort to learn, but it can be learned.
All of those calculus classes are going to hit me hard lol 💪‼️
Your video was helpful as always, it calmed my fears of not being fast enough or good enough to code.
THNX ELI
Thanks. This actually helps more than cheesy motivational advice, it's real advice with no fluff but still to the point.
Keep in mind, motivation isn't constant. There are going to be times where you've been stuck on one particular bug or issue and it's killed your motivation. That's normal, you just have to power through it. The bugs get easier to solve the more you run into them. Null pointer exception? Check the error line for anything obvious and if that doesn't work then step through the debugger. What used to take an hour, I can have fixed in just a few minutes simply because I've seen it before.
Thanks for the video. I could have done with this advice a little while back. I completed my computer science degree in 2000. I started off my degree motivated, but halfway through I was overwhelmed with self doubt, anxiety and a fear of failure. I didn't go very deep into solving problems with technology, so I learnt very little and had no confidence. I somehow got through, but I wasn't ready for a job as a programmer. Subsequently I got pushed out of my first job. I got out of IT for a few years thinking I was a failure. But I'm back now after maturing from life experiences. I'm doing well in a great job in a major company. But I'm not a programmer...so still a bit disappointed in myself and wonder what could have been. Thanks for your videos though
"Yes spaghetti code works. It isn't commented, you know, it breaks if you look at it wrong" - Eli Etherton 2016
This made me laugh x'D
The secret to improving at computer science is to do it for the right reason. I’ve failed CS courses and I’m doing about average (a C grade) in my Data Structures class but I’ve learned to be okay with it because the stuff I’m learning is really interesting and super cool. I don’t compare myself to others with more experience who pick the concepts up more easily and I don’t go through the classes so I can make a ton of money when I graduate. I code because I like it even if it is a difficult skill to learn and I’ve realized that everybody picks up this skill at different rates so the key is to be patient with yourself. Stick to it and you will get better. For reference, I came into college as probably one of the worst CS students in the major. I could not write basic programs like inputting/outputting strings and I definitely did not understand object oriented programming. I literally thought problem solving was magic and could not grasp the process of breaking a big problem down into smaller ones.
Thanks for the video, very motivating. Now I need to make sure of the difference between software engineering and computer science!
when he mentioned road runner I cried out laughing so hard that I woke my parents up
I did quit because it was too hard. Now I think about learning programming again, though I will probably not change majors back to CS again.
Very helpful, thank you for making this video.
Thank you Eli! Really great video!!
My problem is that I hate it at first then I go insane to find the solution to the problem. I will search the whole internet to find the answer. When I learn the concept, I don't need to search for it anymore. Are these good things as an CS student? And plus, I'm not good at math.
I mean, I don't have motivation for anything except playing video games occasionally, watching youtube videos, and daydreaming that I have superpowers.
...So what do you make of that? Am I just doomed to be miserable with work?
I did GCSE computer science last year and I got a B. I am now doing it at ALevel and it's honestly a lot easier!
But to be fair, the only thing most people are motivated to do is end their miserable existence.
Thank you Eli!
7:00 had me rolling lmfao!
Thanks Eli, I have been questioning this since 2006? I have been on and off this coding stuff for the past SEVEN years. I still know a lot about programming but i still feel I wasn't good at programming. And I am not sure, But this video helps a lot. Thanks again
Yes u r right
i love programming on my own and seeing what i make, but i dont like it when i'm told what to program by others
would that count as me not liking it?
I don’t like been stressed 40 hours a week trying to make the deadline for a project and not having time to actually learn
"It breaks if you look at it wrong." I feel like that's how my code has been compiling lately. :(
I am not a rockstart but i try to do my best and i am HAPPY.
Well, "passion" has the Latin root word "passio," which means to suffer.
I am not the greatest coder, but i am pretty good and quick. I enjoy coding a lot, on my free time or when i need to clear my head at work I will write silly little programs. I enjoy coding quite a bit more than the average programmer, i love the challenge of making a model up and implementing it.
That being said, i struggled with programming in school for the first year or so. I always felt like everyone else had an easier time programming that i did and i wouldn't have made it through my course without the help of my group of CS friends. Struggling in CS is to be expected for all but a small amount of people
I am struggling seriously in my 1st/2nd year, but I know nothing comes easy and I know that I will be incredible one day so I keep trying
Thanks, Eli. Your video did help clear a lot of doubts.
"..the difference between a musician and a rockstar is that the rockstar is a rockstar."
This logic is so simple yet so beautiful. I laughed, I cried, I found myself.
The horrible story of a man that was forced to connect his youtube account to google+ wrong
You can read and understand the tutorials about the language, but when and how you should use them or what more you need to find out is the trouble, that is why you need to look up more on stuff on what you don't know, to help you out. That is one of the reason stack overflow, etc exists.
Programming is a Combination of Good Memory and Intelligence.
Lets say you know a new language ,you should remember its function and syntax and again those ....small functions and associations makes a brilliant Code,but lets say you have bad memory ,but good intelligence then the learning time would b much slower then other person,you might look like a slow Coder,Understand this weak memory problem can be solved by doing simple task again and again and one day you would be Champion ,but you cannot fight poor Intelligence.
So, Please understand you're problem first is it poor memory ?or you do not understand the concepts ,and then plan accordingly .
i am not able to do programming and i am getting suck at every level of programming but thanks for lifting up my courage and may be be one day i can become better in the future working in big multinational companies.
I've always wanted to be able to "code" to develop, always kind of payed attention to programming and thought about doing it, but thought it would be too difficult for me. Stopped being so pessimistic and now i'm trying to learn Java as my first language so I can later get into android development, taking courses on treehouse and bought a couple "beginner" java books. The hardest thing for me is keeping up and trying to understand the syntax and being a beginner it seems like they expect you to know all the syntax terminology. Anyone have some advice for a beginner on what to do to learn terms before trying to immerse yourself in a new language?
Start off with python, it is a simple language. But that said, it is a programming language. So, that means that you have be persistent and be willing to feel the pain while learning it. After that it becomes easy and then you can learn more difficult languages like Java and JavaScript.
What if you can't leave 🙁
Don't drop CS. in future you will able get $200k salary job easily!
blockchain software developers make around there
Denis Belfort big lol
@@Patrick-pm6ue that's a sub division of cs
How are you so sure about that?
@@bitshifter4615 the way things are going in the world
With hard work you feed your faith, and in time your doubts will starve to death.
thank you very much, what an amazing video!!!.
Excellent answer!
exactly, not passion but motivation counts.
I hated this field cause i was never good at it. I went above my head... But i'm thinking to start learning.
Thank you!
You said that IT and CS are combelitely different can u please make a video about differences?
I honestly wonder if IT is for me. I've been stuck at tech support / helpdesk for a long time and I leave work frustrated. I told my self that if I push myself into cyber security it might be worth it. Seeing this video and the comments below really encourage me to push harder. Thank you
Question doesn't apply to me, but the answer helped me a lot. Thanks!
Wow... You are SO cool...
Bruce Lee Shut up, I know.
I always know I can come to Eli's channel to get some honesty. Not some feel good bs
I'm a full time coder and agree with Eli 100%.
"Breaks if you look at it wrong".
Way to accurate.
great advice , spurring me on to try harder and stick with it 😃
Great advice!
thank you for this advice. I'm gonna do my best on this field. starting school next week and ready to get my bachelor's degree on Computer Science.
w g I know this is a two year old comment, but how is it going?
Sometimes is more about a choice if you want to make it out from your reality,if you are broke and do not have the same opportunities as others(maybe you are an international student like me),then that could be your motivation regardless if you like it or not
Most people would struggle through a CS degree. I think spending a year or 2 teaching yourself is a great start, maybe go back and get the degree if you are willing to invest the 4 years. Then there is understanding the job market. It seems that a big part of landing a programming job, is people skills. My thinking for all technical jobs was, it was 99% technical skills and the other 1% is showing up on time. But it seems like its 50% soft skills and 50% being willing to adapt and learn new technology. A degree will represent your willingness to learn new things, a git hub account is a way to show off some programs you made.
Hello Eli, I've been watching you channel for some time and there is a question stacked into my brain which I am ashamed to ask, however you might actually help me. Is there any chance for 40 years old unexperienced guy to get a job in IT . I know that there are many jobs available on the market but what is actual reality for more mature generation of people who never had a chance to get into IT.
I always think that nothing worth doing is easy people just have to decide if the end result is going to be worth the extra work.
I'm self-studying various topics in computer science for a few years now. Lately it has become more frustrating. Often when I overcome procrastination, and sit down focused to learn a specific new skill, I still end up doing something completly different, because there is f.ex. some problem with the OS, or a specific library, and dependency etc. and I have to spend a lot of time solving those other problems first, which I'm not really that interested in. I'm in the dark, if and when I can solve those problems, the solutions on stackoverflow are mostly above my understanding, and I don't even know, where to research next. I hit several deadlocks. I got a book on how Linux works last week, and probably will try to become a Windows power user too, but if that doesn't help, I fear I have to realize, that computer science is just not my cup of tea, and I'm better off letting go, and do something else with my life.
Hi, hope you're doing well, can I ask what you ended up doing ?
Don't cut the man or the man will cut you. In 5 or 10 years you'll regret quitting, you'll think man if I only stuck with it I could of been a senior lead developer.
But what eli said.if you hate it then leave it.im slow at it because I hate it.
Thanks guys, all the comments were worth encouraging. I'm about to start my undergraduate degree on computer science. I don't have a clue on computer science.
How are you doing?
Does software engineering normally have less math than computer science?
+BetterCallSaul no
+BetterCallSaul Thereis math, but its a much different type of math.
+Ryan Walter ok, can you elaborate on that?
+BetterCallSaul Its a much more malleable and practical form of math.I could spit out x+y-13b*1000g=taco. and you would say that was a math question. But if i say screen.width/2 = centerpoint.
In most cases, there isn't much math involved. A lot of the heavy math deals with things like graphics and simulations.