I’ve had propane stoves, alcohol stoves, white gas stoves and a Kelley kettle. I have ran out of fuel so many times I can’t count. But I have never ran out of fuel for the Kelley kettle. I can always count on the Kelley kettle.
Since I got a Kelly/Ghillie kettle around thirty years ago, I’ve never gone without it. Yes it’s bulky, but it’s lightweight and practical. I also have pockets full of twigs and moss in most of my jackets as I’m always picking up fuel for it so it can dry off !
I think you capture something really important with that Kelly kettle--how much *fun* it is to build a little fire and feed twigs into it. It touches something primal.
Another caution for using a Kelly/Ghillie kettle: Do NOT ever put it on the fire without water inside, or else the pot will melt / rupture inside. The water is necessary to cool the metal.
Nick , I really like the fact that you leave the good parts and mistakes in your films. It gives a far more real to life / realistic presentation , of the 4 options in this càse. Thanks for your openness and honesty.
I have been using a Trangia for years and my fuel of choice is Methylated Spirit. Like LMazcraz said in his comment: the gel inhibited it's ability to vaporize the alcohol. Meths burns really hot and fully utilises the jets of the Trangia. I use the hiking kettle for boiling water myself. Great vids mate, keep up the good work....
The trangia loves meth sprits as the double wall is filled with a cloth based material so soaks it up and I brew up in mine in less then 10 mins with set up. Cracking Swedish stoves👍🏽
Kelly kettle system is far out the most versatile option. And no need to bring your fuel! Only downside is controling the power. This thing really goes to work. For medium heat coocking I use the hobo stove. Keep up this great content! Greetings from a Dutch guy.
@@sparrowflying864 Yes that’s the one. Good fire control and lot’s of O2. Tip: when you buy this, buy a second set of the steal inserts if you can. I’m talking about the newer type. When you turn them up side down you can use them as a support stand under the firebase. When I use those this will keep the soil underneath the base free from burnmarks and it expands the surface of the base, making it more stable. Cheers!
I believe using the gel in the trangia inhibited it’s ability to vaporize the alcohol. It looked as if the flame was coming from the top of the unit as opposed to the jet holes. I’ve seen where Heet works best. It offers a nice, hot, blue flame. In the end, all of the secondary ingredients in the gel, like aloe, won’t vaporize and burn off. They might just clog the wicking material.
I agree entirely. I use it with methylated spirit and it burns fantastic. Small holes on the top just jetting flames up. Great channel Nick. Informative and entertaining content. Congratulations.
I agree with this. I use TRANgia all the time. The problem with this description / review is the way a TRAN( not TRIAN )gia actually should be used. Gel in the bottom does not make the trangia work correctly. If anyone is interested they should check out the full trangia range which is brilliant.
@@ChrisSmith-jr6bx Yeah, the gel wont get sucked up in the wick inside the burner double walls to feed the actual burner holes, you were cooking on freeflame just like from a gel cup.
You can put a pinch of salt in the Trangia and will get a colored flame...you can also use a bit of paper towel twisted as a wick to lite a trangia in the cold. Thank you for your videos.
Great vid as always. I love the trangia. When camping, even for 2 weeks this is all I use for all our hot water and food. Love sitting outside the tent early in the morning and boiling some water for a coffee in total silence, just listening to nature around.
Used trangia’s for years ( I have 27 set that’s 20 yrs old ! , couple of tips that might help , stick the burner in a pocket to warm up the brass , if the lid has a tight seal leave a tiny little amount of fuel in it as it keeps the wicking material moist ,lights easier and “blooms” quicker , another thing is the flame needs a “sweet” spot , about 25 mm ( 1 inch ) to get a hot enough flame . All the best mate
In fairness to the Trangia stove, if you use bio ethanol (for which it was designed), then, when warmed sufficiently, the holes around the edge of the burner will light (bloom) and give you a much hotter flame. Hand gel will, I think, be too thick to flow through the holes into the outer chamber, and so light the holes. The other point is the height of the pot above the stove: your example looked much too low, stifling the flame further. While one may argue that it should be more versatile, consider that the MSR gas stove has legs to position the pot at exactly the right level. Great video, as ever. Love the simplicity of the big kettle and the versatility of the Kelly Kettle.
@@simonpackham5780 and yea... I am sorry to even MENTION it but since *I* CAN SEE IT it must be a thing ;) BUT!!! I see the POSSIBILITY (not sayin it WOULD happen but COULD) ...the POSSIBILITY OF FLAMEING GEL FLYING ACROSS the campsite.... or tent.... or .... I mean issn't FLAMEING GEL = napalm??? ;)
Kelly Kettle lighting tip - tinder at the air inlet with kindling next to and over the tinder. Light through the air inlet with the kettle in place. Slightly fiddly, but the fire catches more quickly.
Hi Nick, The trangia stove is a great option. A cheaper fuel option you might consider is denatured ethanol. In Portugal it costs about €3/Lt. When using denatured ethanol, once you Have litten the stove, let the flame heat the stove so the fuel starts to vaporize. The flame will then start to come out from the jet holes. The kettle must bem placed around 2,5cm above the top of the stove, using a stand /wind shield of your preference. Works every time and it boils 1/2Lt of water in under 8 min. Have a go and tell us how it went. Cheers
I love the Kelly kettle, used mine loads. Also like the trangia, use the triangle with a wire frame cut from a coat hanger to hold the crusader mug etc. The trangia 27 kettle is great for when it's just me as it does not hold very much, about half a litre. Never thought of using hand gel in the trangia burner, used meths and bio ethanol as well as bcb Dragon gel, have to try that. Thanks for another great video.
I have been using trangia for 30 plus years, and always use metholated spirit, it has a higher burn temp than all the gel types I've tried.. I love the kelly kettles, but as you say, better for a larger group but love its multi tasking ability.. just a mention, Go outdoors do a small kettle that fits inside the pans of the trangia set which was a nice surprise!
Great video Nick. I have had a trangia 27 set for the last 32 years. ( The set has 2 pots a kettle, a frying pan a handle the burner and a wind shield for the burner) (Look them up on amazon or on Black's website) I still take it camping with me. I have had to replace the burner about 10 years ago. I use methylated spirits which I buy in a 5 liter container from a local veterinary supplier I then full up my 300ml trangia fuel bottle and carry my fuel that way. It lasts for days of camping and hiking. I have a kelly kettle which I use also. I onky have it about 2 years but I love it. You should have a look at the hobo stove attachment for it as a means of cooking with pots on the kelly kettle. I find it works well but you do need to put some stouter bits of wood in the fire pan to make a mini Swedish fire log in it, to keep it lighting without the draughting effect of the kettle itself! I only recently discovered your channel but love getting different ideas on bushcraft, camping, etc. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Keep up the good work.
Had a quiet chortle to myself, good video well in there. To date I've watched a few of your vids namely forest bathing... Building resilience... I'm sure you get the drift by know. Did do some good. Although not military, my industry mirrors a lot of the attitudes mentioned. Work in progress lets say. Power to yer elbow.
Had a Kelly kettle for some years. After the 100th set of toasted fingers, it got repurposed into a target….. 🎯 Informative vid (hand gel tip was genius) thx 👍
I shouldn't laugh but watching that drama with the Trangia. thanks for brightening up my day. Kelly kettle has to be my number one, funny enough I was out testing mine this evening in the garden because as you said, it's fun or the gas burner and kettle for a quick morning cuppa before leaving the sleeping bag.
I giggled along as well, it was so much fun and so entertaining, most if all so human and likable - in addition to great informations. Got plenty of déjà vues of own tries to show something and things just had a different idea lol.
Loved this video.My mate and I both in our 60s had great fun playing with my new twig stove ,last weekend. We were both impressed with how little fuel it took to boil a 2ltr. kettle. Something very satisfying in that cup of tea boiled with just a few twigs and leaves!!!!
I live in Norway and have found the tangos to be a very good choice in the winter as the canisters don't tend to like sub zero temps and occasionally dry sticks can be hard to find... Love the videos 😁
I am a great advocate for Trangia type stoves. I have been using my Crusader MKII cook system for about two years and it is the one I always have with me at all times. Use these little stoves correctly, they will serve you well.
As I hiker, I’ve always felt that trangia is bulky item in the backpack. I’ve always gone with a smaller option of ultra lite gas’s stove made by Vango. At 73g it fits in the palm of my hand. It uses a 100g gas cylinder, which is interchangeable with any manufacturers cylinder that has a thread. In turn, all fitted into the billy with the plastic support legs for the cylinder to make everything stable. The Billy can 10cm, weight 550g which has doubled as a kettle. As my tent boasts vestibules on both side of the tent, it shuts out any interference from the wind.
Greetings from the other side of the pond. Just checking in to see how you are making out. I hope you are finding the slowing down helpful and it gives you more peace. Stay Well Nick
I'm a big fan of the Kelly Kettle, for making a cuppa on a coastal lunch stop while out on the Irish Atlantic Coast Sea Kayaking. Works very well in the wind and can get water boiling in minutes. . . . . .its great to carry Sea Kayaking for emergencies too when boiling water might be needed fast with hypothermia etc etc The Trangia Spirit burner is slower than most options, however, if you use it with a pot/ kettle with a diffuser ring underneath its significantly faster. It is a much more viable option then. There is something to be said for using a Traniga spirit burner with a more eco friendly fuel like bio ethanol, instead of using butane/ iso butane gas cannisters. Great video, thanks
I have the Stanley and use two type of fuel wood in an Ikea cutlery holder (Hobo stove) with a cut out at the bottom and two tent pegs to adjust the height, an gas bottle sits in side nicely also means it has a bit more protection, it is a bit big but never had a problem if I ever run out of gas, I have use the small kettle on it too, thanks for still showing the problems and not just showing the result, great videos Have even shared the link to your page on are scout Facebook page.
The Trangia is my stove of choice. Works really well when you use the correct fuel. I made my own wind shield out of aluminium beer cans. Works well even in wind. Takes a bit longer than my gas stove but I'm camping, not racing.
Love my Kelly Kettle when island hopping in a kayak - absolutely bulletproof in all weathers for prepping water, and maintaining a safe secondary heat source. It is also a very stealthy way to cook and boil water, and incredibly fuel efficient. Also love my various Trangia gear, with some (bought 2nd hand) still going strong after 50+ years ! However you do need to practice using them, and find a ‘proven’ fuel. Some biofuels have found to soot a lot. Great thing with Trangia is widely available, and plenty of options through accessories. Would recommend the Trangia mini kettle, as burner and my diy coathanger stand fit inside it to make a very compact brew kit...
Hi Nick, great video. I'm a proud owner of some Gillie Kettles. I even have an Mkettle to play with. Using the cork on the Kelly definitely not advisable but they have the whistle cap now just like my Ghlllies. Also another tangia user. A fantastic piece of kit. I'm also another one having a military past. And still in the TA. I always use my crusader for making brews and cooking in. And like you I think it is one of my favourite bits of kit, so much so I brought one for my daughter to use in the Army Cadets
Loved this video, I always love a boil test. Although I think you would have gotten better performance from the Trangia if you used the bio ethanol. Also £12 is a lot for that bottle, it’s usually £4.50 at Go Outdoors. I’ve never seen it on their site, but found it on the shelves in store. I use the Trangia with bio ethanol, with the crusader mk1 cup on the crusader mk2 stove/windshield and I love it.
what is wrong with using metholated spirits which is dirt cheap and can be bought in any store. even a supermarket. Its what those spirit stoves were designed for.
@@Admiral_Pumpout you do know that they are one and the same? Methyl was added, making metholated spirits, to stop drunks drinking it. Bio or Meths, same thing, because ALL spritis are made by fermenting take your pick from potaties to plumbs. Then its distilled. We buy 1ton IBC of alcohol for cleaning at work..CSR...Colonial Sugar Refineries. They also sell Meths. The difference between Meths and Bio, is those who are silly dont realise there is no difference, are guilted into paying " to save the planet"
@@Helliconia54 Yes meths works really well. I have also tried using the Trangia (with meths ) and it heated up the 600 mils of water slower that usual (took about 5.5 minutes ) but did work. Love my Kellys kettle to bits.
Kelly kettle system is far out the most versatile option. And no need to bring your fuel! Only downside is controle the power. This thing really goes to work. For medium heat coocking I use the hobo stove.
Really enjoying your vids. Nice work! Top tip for the Stanley nesting pots is to cut off the melty plastic tab and replace with a split ring/key ring - which you can slightly undo when you use the pot and it stands off the lid for easy removal when hot. Keep the content coming buddy - very watchable.
Mk 1 stir stick hahahahah, Kelly Kettle is my go to winter kit, I have found that you need to be ready to pour your water and refill fast to get your meals ready. Yes the feeding of the Kettle is inner child even at 63..Good work like the camp cover, Try to bring the sides lower and build a center fire and watch the chute fill up and look like a big mushroom. A friend says he measures his fun by how many campfires he has built. Like your videos.
I just received my Ghillie and is highly impressed with this kettle. I tested it and it boiled 1,4 liter of water in just over 5 minutes! I used way too much wood and wasted about 60% of it. I guess I'll get to know my kettle as time goes by but for now, I am very happy with my purcahse.
Kelly every time, when working with the princes trust, we got the students to pre pack the kettles before we went out with twigs n paper, when doing projects it saved so much time, light from the bottom and place on the stand, simples!
Really enjoy the full trangia which gives wind protection, also the gas adaptor makes it cleaner (though a bit noisy). My favourite quiet burn option is a woodgas stove, I use wood pellet cat litter when there isn't any dry wood available and start it with a cotton wool bud smeared in vaseline. If I'm out for a few days I go with a wisperlite with coleman fuel, heavy but maybe lighter than a weeks worth of alcohol that has a lower calorific value. An inverted cone made from one of those disposable aluminium turkey dish makes great insulation and saves the need to carry so much fuel too. Thanks for the channel.
Here in Brazil we have the option of pure alcohol gel, without additives, without aloe, used both for cleaning and for lighting barbecue grills and fire pits, sold in bottles of 500 ml or 1 liter. The hands sanitizer is graduate at 40°GL, and the standart alcohol gel sold here is at 70°, and sometimes we found ones at 92°GL. Burn strong and easy on spirit burners
Humble trangia known and loved worldwide :) i use a stainless steel gsi kettle like that. Its extremely black from melting snow over the fire, its a great piece.
My favorites , I've been using the Expedition Research kettle when backpacking. Last year switched to the Keith Titanium Kettle , packs even smaller and lighter with a larger volume. It's used with a Evernew titanium Appalachia set or a Firebox Nano Gen 2 ( titanium ) wood burning stove and a Evernew titanium alcohol stove as a auxiliary heat source. My alcohol stoves ( Including my Trangia's ) I only use Denatured Alcohol or a " Food Grade " ( Everclear ) 190 proof alcohol in them.
I’d go for the Kelly every time. Yes it’s bigger to transport but if you run out of gas or meths in the out doors you’re suddenly carrying dead weight. A Kelly Trekker ( the little one) can boil 1/2 a litre with just a few sticks.
Get a grip Royal😂😂 if you use the right fuel you get the job done! Hand gel as an emergency only fuel is fine and thanks for bringing it to our attention. I also have a KK but mine is about 3/4pt so just enough for 2 normal wets, oh and by the way they do leave a scar, especially on grass!! Gt. video as always, much appreciated. Kind regards from deepest Dorset 👍
Hey! I used to use Trangia in Scouts, but only ever in the nested pot set up, with a shroud. The crusader mug was always a go to in the mob, but I have never seen the base before - how useful would that have been! Last dit - I reckon "pooches" for the rocket pouch is just an accent thing - certain Scottish instructors would amend names to suit their accent. Just my theory. Great video!
Hi Nick. Great vid. I have a alpine kettle like that which I use in conjunction with a petrol Coleman’s sportster stove. It boils in around a minute and a half. Quicker than a jet boil in fact. Stay well.
I've done the Hexy cooker and mess tin, I've done the crusader cup and base with hexy. I've done the pocket rocket with crusader mess tin, I've tried them all. And then I found the Jet Boil and my world was happiness and contentment. The ultimate (IMHO) compact water boiling system that does the job in minutes, be it making a brew or cooking a boil in the bag (and making a brew)!
That Kelly Kettle thing is awesome. Like a portable dakota fire pit that boils water. But pouring from the chain is definitely something that would worry me. Looks like it could break...
Chris Mahon and Leopard X have valid explanations for the pronunciation of the word "Pouch." It was used when I was in training and accepted. I would say that the PWs pronounced the word as spelt emphasis on the - "ou" sound which is better. Then there is the Scottish influence. It is "Royal" being "Royal;" making a difference!
Last year was my 'water kettle' year ... for some reason I bought: - GSI stainless ketalist (1L) - kelly kettle trekker (6dl), with hobo & cross stand - eagle products kettle (1.5L) the kelly kettle is by far the most voluminous and cooks the smallest amount of water. But, to be fair, it includes the stove. The GSI and the Eagle Products kettle (thats the one with the copper bottom) however are large enough to hold a gas cartridge and stove. To my amazement I usually wind up bringing my Solo Stove and Pot (0.9L) on hikes... it is as versatile as the kelly kettle, but much more compact.
My cooking/ brewkit options in no particular order. 1) Gas Stove combo. Have a setup from decathlon, cooking pot, gas stove . Tend to use it more if I'm just after a brew and and instant heat and eat . Simple, and lightweight . 2) BCB firedragon gel and stove. Again more for a brew only . Very lightweight, reliable and I have a small cup to go with and dirt cheap. 3) Trangia 27 with kettle. Mine is about 20 years old. Use it more for real food or in winter . Love it to bits nothing to go wrong . I used to own a Swedish army trangia mess kit, which is just an incredible bit of gear . Sadly it disappeared following a house move , the 27 is a substitute really . I could really do with a smaller cooker to go with the burner , something like the triangle or a crusader 2 , or something similar to the speedster stove setups . Kelly kettle is another thing on my wants list. It'll fit nicely in a rocket pouch on my big Bergen or take up half the yoke setup . But then I also want a firebox style stove as well,
Hi mate got myself the pocket rocket and the little gas can after watching your channel, so fast to knock up a brew:) also easy to keep topping up those small cans with a Chinese adapter thingy, saves getting new ones.
Hallow m8. Always wanted to try one of them badgers, But as ex L.D. We had BV.😂. Now getting back to bushcraft after quite a few years disabled. Love your enthusiasm n drive, Even for a ex Boot neck😮, only pulling ya what’sitchops. Never watch watch bad vid from you so far.take care my m8. Brian D.
Great video Nick, i tried hand gel in my trangia and killed it because it ruined the pot by leaving a wierd alien deposit after the burn..i swear by metholated spirit with a tiny bit of water added to the spirit to reduce the sooting, my all time go to was a kelly kettle but i have gone to ghillie kettles now because they are adaptable and repairable.
Nick the Crusader burner is designed to burn fuel gel bud and it works well, not enough gap for the Trangia although you did show it does work, but very slowly. Another great option is the wood Gasifier stove, they are brilliant, only fuel needed is twigs, stainless and packs inside each other, quite small, exceptable weight, worth the small investment of around 20 pound through ebay.
4 in the morning wake up in the tent. Light the mets stove boil the kettle slowly check the surf. Eventually make some coffee mix smash potato heat beans. Eat breakfast. Suit up surf the morning glass. Reboil the kettle again coffee get dressed sleep again repeat. Bliss
That was before I became Tabby McTat. Now I'm lucky to get way surfing 4 time a year but I've upgraded to a camper with a gas stove and a comfortable bed so 4 in the morning doesn't happen to often.
I love Kelly, think the newer ones have a whistle in the bung so might be even harder to blow it up these days. Can use the chain through the handle to remove and also pour. For meths, pop into Home bargains, about £1.70 for 500ml. Love the Mk2 Crusader, the firedragon cubes are great fun. Recently discovered the mini cubes too, just bit enough for a cuppa :)
Excellent video, but there are some obvious reasons behind your result on the trangia spirit burner. First: Fuel. Trangia have a gel burner cup for those gels. This burner needs liquid to get vaporised to be efficient. Second: the height from burner to kettle seems to be to low to be efficient. I would guess around 4-5 cm would be perfect. Third: air flow isn’t optimal. In the regular stove the air comes from beneath and flows upward. Here it comes more sideways. Anyway I might be wrong but I think at least one of those points made an impact. Probably the use of gel mostly. Oh, and it only gives 7-800 watts of energy. Snd that’s under the best conditions.
Ive got a spirit cooking set by Esbit. The burner is very similar to the Trangia one but it has a handle on the regulator so you dont need to improvise. also far easier to put out the flame^^
The term "Pooch" was created to a) be different from Percy and b) allow PW1's to thrash matelots and Nods because they can. BZ oppo, another awesome stand easy production. I picked up a second hand TBS salamander wood burner recently, this weekend my Crusader mug will be balanced on it.
I use the gas cooker primarily, but also use the Crusader system including the mug, with a custom lid, extremely well made and recommended, available on E bay, always carry a hexi stove and fuel too as backup, and a light weight custom hobo wood burner stove (basically a couple of cans, no weight at all. Gives me multiple options and can be used together. Might seem like overkill, but I once spent a night with a broken ankle in the Brecons, stuck in a frozen ditch using my Bergen as a support for my poncho, fighting the wind, in a blizzard, trying to get a hexi to light, after a lot of words which would make a Trooper blush, my last match (crap safety matches) caught the wax paper and lit the hexi block, nice brew of hot coffee, lots of sugar, and hypothermia lost its grip. Learned good lessons, now I carry options. I never drink from the hot crusader mug, I decant into 500 ml plastic mug (another spare packed with brew kit and basic rations packed in the Bergen). Fire-dragon gel is ok too, but I put some cooking foil in the bottom as it leaves a horrible gunk behind. Some hand-gels will do the trick others don't not have the alcohol content, especially since Covid and the quick buck shysters dilute it. Always carry small waterproof bags of tinder and kindling, as you cannot always get dry wood quick enough in the field. My uncle was a Royal Don-R (Despatch Rider) on D-Day (now deceased) who taught me a great trick, he used to have little bags of tinder, wood dust, waxed shavings, dry shavings, etc with crumbled hexamine, and carried them in a tin in his Bergen (outside pocket) which would be used as a starter for his hexi blocks. Useful idea for any wilderness fire, I have used it many times. It worked for him in Malaya and Borneo too. Hate the Kelly Kettle, but the bases are useful, they come in two sizes and both are useable. Love your videos and great advice
Ghillie kettle for the win every time. I take one evry time I go fishing and it never fails to get someone to stop and ask about it. For the long camp, I take my Samovar but the Ghillie is ready to go at all times.
I have a cheap Trangia rip off that comes with its own pot stand. 1L SS cooking pot with a lid. Running on Meths it boils 500ml in 5-6 minutes. The cooker packs down and fits in the pot for transport.
Good vid. Personally my kit is classic hexi block. Packs into a Alli pot that has a plate/bowl as a carry lid, no idea of the brand but really cheap. 2 hexi blocks and 1 1/2 LTRs boiling in minutes. I never use a kettle when on my own or with just one other person as one pot does me/us well. Enjoying your take on things, crack on.
Greetings from Oregon brother I have never seen this kelly very freaking cool I travel by adventure motorcycle its a bit big great information on camp cooking
I live in Scotland do walking & hiking on Scottish mountains and ridges. Nay trees nae woods. My "kettle" is an Evernew solo set, a 750ml pot for dinner, and a separate 400ml cup for tea/coffee, all blast-furnaced with an Evernew spirit stove. As others have said get bio-ethanol if you can, EBay has loads.
i had the same problem regarding carrying fuel into the woods, but since here in the germanies, were everything fun is illegal, a gas- or spiritburner is more or less the only option*, so i had find ways to convince myself that it isn't a big problem. What worked for me was rather simple: as long as the fuel fits into my kettle or into a pouch were nothing else fits in, i'm good. i therefore have amassed a rather large collection of fuel-containers over the years, but hey ... *not that using a trangia were legal, ofc it isn't, but police or rangers usually wont give you much trouble over them as long as you are polite and have plan for how to react if it tips over or w/e. which you should have anyway, imho.
I have the trangia stove as a backup to my optimus stoves (hiker 111 and optimus). Both stoves need priming and for that I use alcohol. But since the optimus stoves are so reliable I haven't used the Trangia for that purpose yet. Nice vid. And so you have a new subscriber.
Love the Kelly Kettle, I got one last year. The new ones have a wistling stopper (you can get these seperate). On hikes ik Lways use a pop can stove with bio ethanol, its quite cheap at discound stores (under 2€ a liter). This dous however need a heat reflector this will also serve as windscreen, but also on the rare windles day's the refector makes a big difference.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 just rewatching, nearly incidently clicked on dislike with my thick fingers on that small mobile, apologies (corrected asap), I definitely need to get such a Kelly Kettle, since I love to drink litres of tea outside (enough bushes...) and it is such a decent tiny fire. Guess, I could so easily do it everywhere. Your videos are a source of great info plus your humour is great. Enjoying my coffee and laughing with you (in a friendly meant way). Showed my son (18 soon in Dec) your videos and he will soon watch them as well, not yet for outdoors (gamer...) but he knew outdoors from his childhood when we were out all the time, so I am sure, once he will come back to it. Sorry for talking your ears off (A man a word, a woman a wordbook...). Just so happy because my dog is recovering after his surgery and in three or four weeks we can be back to bushcraft.
I’ve had propane stoves, alcohol stoves, white gas stoves and a Kelley kettle. I have ran out of fuel so many times I can’t count. But I have never ran out of fuel for the Kelley kettle. I can always count on the Kelley kettle.
I love the Kelly Kettle. I think they recommend that you take the bung off completely when you're heating water
Since I got a Kelly/Ghillie kettle around thirty years ago, I’ve never gone without it. Yes it’s bulky, but it’s lightweight and practical. I also have pockets full of twigs and moss in most of my jackets as I’m always picking up fuel for it so it can dry off !
I am about to get my first Kelly Kettle and I am very encouraged to gather my twigs instead of propane and butane cartridges
I think you capture something really important with that Kelly kettle--how much *fun* it is to build a little fire and feed twigs into it. It touches something primal.
Another caution for using a Kelly/Ghillie kettle: Do NOT ever put it on the fire without water inside, or else the pot will melt / rupture inside. The water is necessary to cool the metal.
Nick , I really like the fact that you leave the good parts and mistakes in your films. It gives a far more real to life / realistic presentation , of the 4 options in this càse.
Thanks for your openness and honesty.
I have been using a Trangia for years and my fuel of choice is Methylated Spirit. Like LMazcraz said in his comment: the gel inhibited it's ability to vaporize the alcohol. Meths burns really hot and fully utilises the jets of the Trangia. I use the hiking kettle for boiling water myself.
Great vids mate, keep up the good work....
Agree , i would say they are better
The trangia loves meth sprits as the double wall is filled with a cloth based material so soaks it up and I brew up in mine in less then 10 mins with set up. Cracking Swedish stoves👍🏽
Kelly kettle system is far out the most versatile option. And no need to bring your fuel! Only downside is controling the power. This thing really goes to work. For medium heat coocking I use the hobo stove. Keep up this great content! Greetings from a Dutch guy.
Is that stove the metal pot stand attachment that goes on top of the base??
@@sparrowflying864 Yes that’s the one. Good fire control and lot’s of O2. Tip: when you buy this, buy a second set of the steal inserts if you can. I’m talking about the newer type. When you turn them up side down you can use them as a support stand under the firebase. When I use those this will keep the soil underneath the base free from burnmarks and it expands the surface of the base, making it more stable. Cheers!
@@marcel757 you mean the two pieces that make an X and not the one that is the steel ring?
I believe using the gel in the trangia inhibited it’s ability to vaporize the alcohol. It looked as if the flame was coming from the top of the unit as opposed to the jet holes. I’ve seen where Heet works best. It offers a nice, hot, blue flame. In the end, all of the secondary ingredients in the gel, like aloe, won’t vaporize and burn off. They might just clog the wicking material.
That's why trangia do a gel tray?
Im thinking the same. Gel needs more air.
I agree entirely. I use it with methylated spirit and it burns fantastic. Small holes on the top just jetting flames up.
Great channel Nick. Informative and entertaining content. Congratulations.
I agree with this. I use TRANgia all the time. The problem with this description / review is the way a TRAN( not TRIAN )gia actually should be used. Gel in the bottom does not make the trangia work correctly. If anyone is interested they should check out the full trangia range which is brilliant.
@@ChrisSmith-jr6bx Yeah, the gel wont get sucked up in the wick inside the burner double walls to feed the actual burner holes, you were cooking on freeflame just like from a gel cup.
You can put a pinch of salt in the Trangia and will get a colored flame...you can also use a bit of paper towel twisted as a wick to lite a trangia in the cold.
Thank you for your videos.
A little kelly kettle tip: the base does get very hot, so to stop it scorching whatever its sitting on, use a plumbers soldering mat underneath.
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Great vid as always. I love the trangia. When camping, even for 2 weeks this is all I use for all our hot water and food. Love sitting outside the tent early in the morning and boiling some water for a coffee in total silence, just listening to nature around.
From a US Marine to a Royal Marine, you didn't have pictures or crayons for the trangia. LOL!! Semper Fi sir!
The Kelly Kettle comes in three sizes, makes it easy to find a size to fit your individual needs.
Used trangia’s for years ( I have 27 set that’s 20 yrs old ! , couple of tips that might help , stick the burner in a pocket to warm up the brass , if the lid has a tight seal leave a tiny little amount of fuel in it as it keeps the wicking material moist ,lights easier and “blooms” quicker , another thing is the flame needs a “sweet” spot , about 25 mm ( 1 inch ) to get a hot enough flame . All the best mate
Another good tip is get the Trangia and throw it in the bin. Slow, bulky, heavy, expensive, and poor quality issues.
In fairness to the Trangia stove, if you use bio ethanol (for which it was designed), then, when warmed sufficiently, the holes around the edge of the burner will light (bloom) and give you a much hotter flame. Hand gel will, I think, be too thick to flow through the holes into the outer chamber, and so light the holes.
The other point is the height of the pot above the stove: your example looked much too low, stifling the flame further. While one may argue that it should be more versatile, consider that the MSR gas stove has legs to position the pot at exactly the right level.
Great video, as ever. Love the simplicity of the big kettle and the versatility of the Kelly Kettle.
yea... I would like to see it done again with FRESH BIOFUEL and the PROPER AMOUNT ...which is prolly just a tad more than ''a splash'' ?? :)
I think you may need a lot of hand gel 🪵🏕🔥☕️
@@simonpackham5780 and yea... I am sorry to even MENTION it but since *I* CAN SEE IT it must be a thing ;) BUT!!!
I see the POSSIBILITY (not sayin it WOULD happen but COULD) ...the POSSIBILITY OF FLAMEING GEL FLYING ACROSS the campsite.... or tent.... or .... I mean issn't FLAMEING GEL = napalm??? ;)
The Trangia was/is designed to burn methylated spirits, bio ethanol was not even around back then.
Could use 3 tent pegs for raising kettle above the trangia and a oven foil dish cut out into a wind guard to optimise the heating.
Kelly Kettle lighting tip - tinder at the air inlet with kindling next to and over the tinder. Light through the air inlet with the kettle in place. Slightly fiddly, but the fire catches more quickly.
That Kelly Kettle is amazing! I’ve never seen anything like that. Great helpful tips on how to operate it as well. Enjoyed this video thanks!
Hi Nick,
The trangia stove is a great option. A cheaper fuel option you might consider is denatured ethanol. In Portugal it costs about €3/Lt.
When using denatured ethanol, once you Have litten the stove, let the flame heat the stove so the fuel starts to vaporize. The flame will then start to come out from the jet holes. The kettle must bem placed around 2,5cm above the top of the stove, using a stand /wind shield of your preference. Works every time and it boils 1/2Lt of water in under 8 min. Have a go and tell us how it went.
Cheers
I love the Kelly kettle, used mine loads. Also like the trangia, use the triangle with a wire frame cut from a coat hanger to hold the crusader mug etc. The trangia 27 kettle is great for when it's just me as it does not hold very much, about half a litre. Never thought of using hand gel in the trangia burner, used meths and bio ethanol as well as bcb Dragon gel, have to try that. Thanks for another great video.
I have been using trangia for 30 plus years, and always use metholated spirit, it has a higher burn temp than all the gel types I've tried.. I love the kelly kettles, but as you say, better for a larger group but love its multi tasking ability.. just a mention, Go outdoors do a small kettle that fits inside the pans of the trangia set which was a nice surprise!
Great video Nick. I have had a trangia 27 set for the last 32 years. ( The set has 2 pots a kettle, a frying pan a handle the burner and a wind shield for the burner) (Look them up on amazon or on Black's website) I still take it camping with me. I have had to replace the burner about 10 years ago. I use methylated spirits which I buy in a 5 liter container from a local veterinary supplier I then full up my 300ml trangia fuel bottle and carry my fuel that way. It lasts for days of camping and hiking.
I have a kelly kettle which I use also. I onky have it about 2 years but I love it. You should have a look at the hobo stove attachment for it as a means of cooking with pots on the kelly kettle. I find it works well but you do need to put some stouter bits of wood in the fire pan to make a mini Swedish fire log in it, to keep it lighting without the draughting effect of the kettle itself!
I only recently discovered your channel but love getting different ideas on bushcraft, camping, etc. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Keep up the good work.
Had a quiet chortle to myself, good video well in there. To date I've watched a few of your vids
namely forest bathing... Building resilience... I'm sure you get the drift by know.
Did do some good. Although not military, my industry mirrors a lot of the attitudes mentioned.
Work in progress lets say. Power to yer elbow.
Had a Kelly kettle for some years. After the 100th set of toasted fingers, it got repurposed into a target….. 🎯 Informative vid (hand gel tip was genius) thx 👍
I shouldn't laugh but watching that drama with the Trangia. thanks for brightening up my day. Kelly kettle has to be my number one, funny enough I was out testing mine this evening in the garden because as you said, it's fun or the gas burner and kettle for a quick morning cuppa before leaving the sleeping bag.
I giggled along as well, it was so much fun and so entertaining, most if all so human and likable - in addition to great informations. Got plenty of déjà vues of own tries to show something and things just had a different idea lol.
Loved this video.My mate and I both in our 60s had great fun playing with my new twig stove ,last weekend.
We were both impressed with how little fuel it took to boil a 2ltr. kettle.
Something very satisfying in that cup of tea boiled with just a few twigs and leaves!!!!
I live in Norway and have found the tangos to be a very good choice in the winter as the canisters don't tend to like sub zero temps and occasionally dry sticks can be hard to find... Love the videos 😁
I like this it shows things I didn’t know about the Kelly kettle.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 They do one? I've got the whistle top from an old kettle packed in with my Kelly and use that!
I am a great advocate for Trangia type stoves. I have been using my Crusader MKII cook system for about two years and it is the one I always have with me at all times. Use these little stoves correctly, they will serve you well.
As I hiker, I’ve always felt that trangia is bulky item in the backpack. I’ve always gone with a smaller option of ultra lite gas’s stove made by Vango. At 73g it fits in the palm of my hand. It uses a 100g gas cylinder, which is interchangeable with any manufacturers cylinder that has a thread. In turn, all fitted into the billy with the plastic support legs for the cylinder to make everything stable. The Billy can 10cm, weight 550g which has doubled as a kettle. As my tent boasts vestibules on both side of the tent, it shuts out any interference from the wind.
BS and hindsight make slow learning curve , sill fun to watch ;-)
Thanks for posting.
Greetings from the other side of the pond. Just checking in to see how you are making out. I hope you are finding the slowing down helpful and it gives you more peace. Stay Well Nick
The Kelly Kettle has had a whistler plug for years now. Face to the wind, feed from the top and it's faster than high-tech gas options.
I'm a big fan of the Kelly Kettle, for making a cuppa on a coastal lunch stop while out on the Irish Atlantic Coast Sea Kayaking. Works very well in the wind and can get water boiling in minutes. . . . . .its great to carry Sea Kayaking for emergencies too when boiling water might be needed fast with hypothermia etc etc
The Trangia Spirit burner is slower than most options, however, if you use it with a pot/ kettle with a diffuser ring underneath its significantly faster. It is a much more viable option then. There is something to be said for using a Traniga spirit burner with a more eco friendly fuel like bio ethanol, instead of using butane/ iso butane gas cannisters.
Great video, thanks
I have the Stanley and use two type of fuel wood in an Ikea cutlery holder (Hobo stove) with a cut out at the bottom and two tent pegs to adjust the height, an gas bottle sits in side nicely also means it has a bit more protection, it is a bit big but never had a problem if I ever run out of gas, I have use the small kettle on it too, thanks for still showing the problems and not just showing the result, great videos Have even shared the link to your page on are scout Facebook page.
The Trangia is my stove of choice. Works really well when you use the correct fuel. I made my own wind shield out of aluminium beer cans. Works well even in wind. Takes a bit longer than my gas stove but I'm camping, not racing.
Love my Kelly Kettle when island hopping in a kayak - absolutely bulletproof in all weathers for prepping water, and maintaining a safe secondary heat source. It is also a very stealthy way to cook and boil water, and incredibly fuel efficient.
Also love my various Trangia gear, with some (bought 2nd hand) still going strong after 50+ years !
However you do need to practice using them, and find a ‘proven’ fuel. Some biofuels have found to soot a lot.
Great thing with Trangia is widely available, and plenty of options through accessories. Would recommend the Trangia mini kettle, as burner and my diy coathanger stand fit inside it to make a very compact brew kit...
regarding the soot: i had the problem using pure spiritus, but, for whatever reason, diluting by puting a tenth of water in it fixed that.
@@hiddenwoodsben Thanks for the tip - will give it a try 👍
Love this! Not much better than a simple mug!
Hi Nick, great video. I'm a proud owner of some Gillie Kettles. I even have an Mkettle to play with. Using the cork on the Kelly definitely not advisable but they have the whistle cap now just like my Ghlllies.
Also another tangia user. A fantastic piece of kit.
I'm also another one having a military past. And still in the TA. I always use my crusader for making brews and cooking in. And like you I think it is one of my favourite bits of kit, so much so I brought one for my daughter to use in the Army Cadets
Loved this video, I always love a boil test. Although I think you would have gotten better performance from the Trangia if you used the bio ethanol. Also £12 is a lot for that bottle, it’s usually £4.50 at Go Outdoors. I’ve never seen it on their site, but found it on the shelves in store. I use the Trangia with bio ethanol, with the crusader mk1 cup on the crusader mk2 stove/windshield and I love it.
what is wrong with using metholated spirits which is dirt cheap and can be bought in any store. even a supermarket. Its what those spirit stoves were designed for.
@@Helliconia54 bioethanol at b and q is decently priced and plentiful
@@Admiral_Pumpout you do know that they are one and the same? Methyl was added, making metholated spirits, to stop drunks drinking it. Bio or Meths, same thing, because ALL spritis are made by fermenting take your pick from potaties to plumbs. Then its distilled. We buy 1ton IBC of alcohol for cleaning at work..CSR...Colonial Sugar Refineries. They also sell Meths. The difference between Meths and Bio, is those who are silly dont realise there is no difference, are guilted into paying " to save the planet"
@@ozdavemcgee2079 it's what is written on the bottle in case anybody was looking, I didn't ask to be mansplained.
@@Helliconia54 Yes meths works really well. I have also tried using the Trangia (with meths ) and it heated up the 600 mils of water slower that usual (took about 5.5 minutes ) but did work. Love my Kellys kettle to bits.
A video for one of the most important things out in the bush , a brew up!
That camp looks amazing!!! I have camp envy. LOL.
Great video! Greetings from California USA! 🇺🇸
Kelly kettle system is far out the most versatile option. And no need to bring your fuel! Only downside is controle the power. This thing really goes to work. For medium heat coocking I use the hobo stove.
In my never ending quest for the perfect kettle, I’ve accumulated a crate full. I like the GSI stainless so much I bought two of them.
Really enjoying your vids. Nice work! Top tip for the Stanley nesting pots is to cut off the melty plastic tab and replace with a split ring/key ring - which you can slightly undo when you use the pot and it stands off the lid for easy removal when hot. Keep the content coming buddy - very watchable.
Best use of hand gel ! Hands down 👌🏻
Mk 1 stir stick hahahahah, Kelly Kettle is my go to winter kit, I have found that you need to be ready to pour your water and refill fast to get your meals ready. Yes the feeding of the Kettle is inner child even at 63..Good work like the camp cover, Try to bring the sides lower and build a center fire and watch the chute fill up and look like a big mushroom. A friend says he measures his fun by how many campfires he has built. Like your videos.
I just received my Ghillie and is highly impressed with this kettle. I tested it and it boiled 1,4 liter of water in just over 5 minutes!
I used way too much wood and wasted about 60% of it. I guess I'll get to know my kettle as time goes by but for now, I am very happy with my purcahse.
Kelly every time, when working with the princes trust, we got the students to pre pack the kettles before we went out with twigs n paper, when doing projects it saved so much time, light from the bottom and place on the stand, simples!
Cotton wool is a great starter. It's so light and easy to carry
Really enjoy the full trangia which gives wind protection, also the gas adaptor makes it cleaner (though a bit noisy). My favourite quiet burn option is a woodgas stove, I use wood pellet cat litter when there isn't any dry wood available and start it with a cotton wool bud smeared in vaseline. If I'm out for a few days I go with a wisperlite with coleman fuel, heavy but maybe lighter than a weeks worth of alcohol that has a lower calorific value. An inverted cone made from one of those disposable aluminium turkey dish makes great insulation and saves the need to carry so much fuel too. Thanks for the channel.
Here in Brazil we have the option of pure alcohol gel, without additives, without aloe, used both for cleaning and for lighting barbecue grills and fire pits, sold in bottles of 500 ml or 1 liter. The hands sanitizer is graduate at 40°GL, and the standart alcohol gel sold here is at 70°, and sometimes we found ones at 92°GL. Burn strong and easy on spirit burners
Humble trangia known and loved worldwide :) i use a stainless steel gsi kettle like that. Its extremely black from melting snow over the fire, its a great piece.
Love my trangia mess kit, unfortunately you didn't do it justice. The Kelly kettles look awesome 👌
Just stumbled across your channel recently and the content is absolutely fantastic. Keep up the good work I'm sure you will get many more subscribers.
My favorites , I've been using the Expedition Research kettle when backpacking. Last year switched to the Keith Titanium Kettle , packs even smaller and lighter with a larger volume. It's used with a Evernew titanium Appalachia set or a Firebox Nano Gen 2 ( titanium ) wood burning stove and a Evernew titanium alcohol stove as a auxiliary heat source. My alcohol stoves ( Including my Trangia's ) I only use Denatured Alcohol or a " Food Grade " ( Everclear ) 190 proof alcohol in them.
I’d go for the Kelly every time. Yes it’s bigger to transport but if you run out of gas or meths in the out doors you’re suddenly carrying dead weight. A Kelly Trekker ( the little one) can boil 1/2 a litre with just a few sticks.
Get a grip Royal😂😂 if you use the right fuel you get the job done! Hand gel as an emergency only fuel is fine and thanks for bringing it to our attention. I also have a KK but mine is about 3/4pt so just enough for 2 normal wets, oh and by the way they do leave a scar, especially on grass!! Gt. video as always, much appreciated. Kind regards from deepest Dorset 👍
Hey! I used to use Trangia in Scouts, but only ever in the nested pot set up, with a shroud.
The crusader mug was always a go to in the mob, but I have never seen the base before - how useful would that have been!
Last dit - I reckon "pooches" for the rocket pouch is just an accent thing - certain Scottish instructors would amend names to suit their accent. Just my theory.
Great video!
Youve got a sweat on at the end of this once again brilliantly engineered vid , personally I prefer a Swedish forces rocket stove
Personally I am a big fan of the Biolite CampStove and Kettlepot, pricey option, but also provides offgrid power just using small twigs.
Hi Nick.
Great vid.
I have a alpine kettle like that which I use in conjunction with a petrol Coleman’s sportster stove. It boils in around a minute and a half. Quicker than a jet boil in fact.
Stay well.
Always interesting and informative. Thanks Nick. 👍👍
I've done the Hexy cooker and mess tin, I've done the crusader cup and base with hexy. I've done the pocket rocket with crusader mess tin, I've tried them all. And then I found the Jet Boil and my world was happiness and contentment. The ultimate (IMHO) compact water boiling system that does the job in minutes, be it making a brew or cooking a boil in the bag (and making a brew)!
That Kelly Kettle thing is awesome. Like a portable dakota fire pit that boils water. But pouring from the chain is definitely something that would worry me. Looks like it could break...
Chris Mahon and Leopard X have valid explanations for the pronunciation of the word "Pouch." It was used when I was in training and accepted. I would say that the PWs pronounced the word as spelt emphasis on the - "ou" sound which is better. Then there is the Scottish influence. It is "Royal" being "Royal;" making a difference!
My uncle once made soup in a kettle 😃
I like the Kelly kettle 👍
Last year was my 'water kettle' year ... for some reason I bought:
- GSI stainless ketalist (1L)
- kelly kettle trekker (6dl), with hobo & cross stand
- eagle products kettle (1.5L)
the kelly kettle is by far the most voluminous and cooks the smallest amount of water. But, to be fair, it includes the stove.
The GSI and the Eagle Products kettle (thats the one with the copper bottom) however are large enough to hold a gas cartridge and stove.
To my amazement I usually wind up bringing my Solo Stove and Pot (0.9L) on hikes... it is as versatile as the kelly kettle, but much more compact.
My cooking/ brewkit options in no particular order.
1) Gas Stove combo. Have a setup from decathlon, cooking pot, gas stove . Tend to use it more if I'm just after a brew and and instant heat and eat . Simple, and lightweight .
2) BCB firedragon gel and stove. Again more for a brew only . Very lightweight, reliable and I have a small cup to go with and dirt cheap.
3) Trangia 27 with kettle. Mine is about 20 years old. Use it more for real food or in winter . Love it to bits nothing to go wrong .
I used to own a Swedish army trangia mess kit, which is just an incredible bit of gear . Sadly it disappeared following a house move , the 27 is a substitute really . I could really do with a smaller cooker to go with the burner , something like the triangle or a crusader 2 , or something similar to the speedster stove setups .
Kelly kettle is another thing on my wants list. It'll fit nicely in a rocket pouch on my big Bergen or take up half the yoke setup .
But then I also want a firebox style stove as well,
Love my kelly kettle. Sometimes old school is best.
Thanks for showing us, Take care.
Hi mate got myself the pocket rocket and the little gas can after watching your channel, so fast to knock up a brew:) also easy to keep topping up those small cans with a Chinese adapter thingy, saves getting new ones.
I love my trangia equipment i love my petromax fire kettle as well
Hallow m8. Always wanted to try one of them badgers, But as ex L.D. We had BV.😂. Now getting back to bushcraft after quite a few years disabled. Love your enthusiasm n drive, Even for a ex Boot neck😮, only pulling ya what’sitchops. Never watch watch bad vid from you so far.take care my m8. Brian D.
Great video Nick, i tried hand gel in my trangia and killed it because it ruined the pot by leaving a wierd alien deposit after the burn..i swear by metholated spirit with a tiny bit of water added to the spirit to reduce the sooting, my all time go to was a kelly kettle but i have gone to ghillie kettles now because they are adaptable and repairable.
Thanks for sharing, very unique kettles and light weight 😀
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 Thanks you, Happy weekend and stay blessings 🙌🙏
Nick the Crusader burner is designed to burn fuel gel bud and it works well, not enough gap for the Trangia although you did show it does work, but very slowly. Another great option is the wood Gasifier stove, they are brilliant, only fuel needed is twigs, stainless and packs inside each other, quite small, exceptable weight, worth the small investment of around 20 pound through ebay.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 Haha sorted, yes bud good bit of kit they are 👌🏻👍🏻
Kelly kettle has legendary status 🙇
4 in the morning wake up in the tent. Light the mets stove boil the kettle slowly check the surf. Eventually make some coffee mix smash potato heat beans. Eat breakfast. Suit up surf the morning glass. Reboil the kettle again coffee get dressed sleep again repeat. Bliss
That was before I became Tabby McTat. Now I'm lucky to get way surfing 4 time a year but I've upgraded to a camper with a gas stove and a comfortable bed so 4 in the morning doesn't happen to often.
I love Kelly, think the newer ones have a whistle in the bung so might be even harder to blow it up these days. Can use the chain through the handle to remove and also pour. For meths, pop into Home bargains, about £1.70 for 500ml. Love the Mk2 Crusader, the firedragon cubes are great fun. Recently discovered the mini cubes too, just bit enough for a cuppa :)
Excellent video, but there are some obvious reasons behind your result on the trangia spirit burner. First: Fuel. Trangia have a gel burner cup for those gels. This burner needs liquid to get vaporised to be efficient.
Second: the height from burner to kettle seems to be to low to be efficient. I would guess around 4-5 cm would be perfect.
Third: air flow isn’t optimal. In the regular stove the air comes from beneath and flows upward. Here it comes more sideways.
Anyway I might be wrong but I think at least one of those points made an impact. Probably the use of gel mostly.
Oh, and it only gives 7-800 watts of energy. Snd that’s under the best conditions.
I was hoping to see a guest appearance from the world famous Mr Foldy-Cup, one of the best bits of kit anyone can own for a quick brew.
Great work on video greetings from spain 👍👍👍
Love my Kelly! I jus got it and it’s going to do me just fine..
Ive got a spirit cooking set by Esbit. The burner is very similar to the Trangia one but it has a handle on the regulator so you dont need to improvise. also far easier to put out the flame^^
The term "Pooch" was created to a) be different from Percy and b) allow PW1's to thrash matelots and Nods because they can. BZ oppo, another awesome stand easy production. I picked up a second hand TBS salamander wood burner recently, this weekend my Crusader mug will be balanced on it.
I use the gas cooker primarily, but also use the Crusader system including the mug, with a custom lid, extremely well made and recommended, available on E bay, always carry a hexi stove and fuel too as backup, and a light weight custom hobo wood burner stove (basically a couple of cans, no weight at all. Gives me multiple options and can be used together. Might seem like overkill, but I once spent a night with a broken ankle in the Brecons, stuck in a frozen ditch using my Bergen as a support for my poncho, fighting the wind, in a blizzard, trying to get a hexi to light, after a lot of words which would make a Trooper blush, my last match (crap safety matches) caught the wax paper and lit the hexi block, nice brew of hot coffee, lots of sugar, and hypothermia lost its grip. Learned good lessons, now I carry options. I never drink from the hot crusader mug, I decant into 500 ml plastic mug (another spare packed with brew kit and basic rations packed in the Bergen). Fire-dragon gel is ok too, but I put some cooking foil in the bottom as it leaves a horrible gunk behind. Some hand-gels will do the trick others don't not have the alcohol content, especially since Covid and the quick buck shysters dilute it. Always carry small waterproof bags of tinder and kindling, as you cannot always get dry wood quick enough in the field. My uncle was a Royal Don-R (Despatch Rider) on D-Day (now deceased) who taught me a great trick, he used to have little bags of tinder, wood dust, waxed shavings, dry shavings, etc with crumbled hexamine, and carried them in a tin in his Bergen (outside pocket) which would be used as a starter for his hexi blocks. Useful idea for any wilderness fire, I have used it many times. It worked for him in Malaya and Borneo too. Hate the Kelly Kettle, but the bases are useful, they come in two sizes and both are useable. Love your videos and great advice
Ghillie kettle for the win every time. I take one evry time I go fishing and it never fails to get someone to stop and ask about it. For the long camp, I take my Samovar but the Ghillie is ready to go at all times.
Love the volcano kettle. A cat can and liquid ethanol are fair weather friends.
I have a cheap Trangia rip off that comes with its own pot stand. 1L SS cooking pot with a lid. Running on Meths it boils 500ml in 5-6 minutes. The cooker packs down and fits in the pot for transport.
Good vid. Personally my kit is classic hexi block. Packs into a Alli pot that has a plate/bowl as a carry lid, no idea of the brand but really cheap. 2 hexi blocks and 1 1/2 LTRs boiling in minutes. I never use a kettle when on my own or with just one other person as one pot does me/us well. Enjoying your take on things, crack on.
Greetings from Oregon brother I have never seen this kelly very freaking cool I travel by adventure motorcycle its a bit big great information on camp cooking
i love my little trangia but i do use it with my firebox stove and they work well together
Nick and Paul Messner, pretty much my go to outdoors guys. 👍
*Edit* Doh, sorry mate!
I live in Scotland do walking & hiking on Scottish mountains and ridges. Nay trees nae woods. My "kettle" is an Evernew solo set, a 750ml pot for dinner, and a separate 400ml cup for tea/coffee, all blast-furnaced with an Evernew spirit stove. As others have said get bio-ethanol if you can, EBay has loads.
plenty heather in the hills, works good in kelly kettles, look for old growth, use the kelly for hill loch fishing
i had the same problem regarding carrying fuel into the woods, but since here in the germanies, were everything fun is illegal, a gas- or spiritburner is more or less the only option*, so i had find ways to convince myself that it isn't a big problem.
What worked for me was rather simple: as long as the fuel fits into my kettle or into a pouch were nothing else fits in, i'm good.
i therefore have amassed a rather large collection of fuel-containers over the years, but hey ...
*not that using a trangia were legal, ofc it isn't, but police or rangers usually wont give you much trouble over them as long as you are polite and have plan for how to react if it tips over or w/e. which you should have anyway, imho.
I have the trangia stove as a backup to my optimus stoves (hiker 111 and optimus). Both stoves need priming and for that I use alcohol. But since the optimus stoves are so reliable I haven't used the Trangia for that purpose yet.
Nice vid.
And so you have a new subscriber.
Love the Kelly Kettle, I got one last year. The new ones have a wistling stopper (you can get these seperate). On hikes ik Lways use a pop can stove with bio ethanol, its quite cheap at discound stores (under 2€ a liter). This dous however need a heat reflector this will also serve as windscreen, but also on the rare windles day's the refector makes a big difference.
Actually, that was fun to watch. I never heard about that Kelly Kettle, didn't reach my Bavarian nest ;-) Looks like fun.
@@hiddenvalleybushcraft5683 just rewatching, nearly incidently clicked on dislike with my thick fingers on that small mobile, apologies (corrected asap), I definitely need to get such a Kelly Kettle, since I love to drink litres of tea outside (enough bushes...) and it is such a decent tiny fire. Guess, I could so easily do it everywhere. Your videos are a source of great info plus your humour is great. Enjoying my coffee and laughing with you (in a friendly meant way). Showed my son (18 soon in Dec) your videos and he will soon watch them as well, not yet for outdoors (gamer...) but he knew outdoors from his childhood when we were out all the time, so I am sure, once he will come back to it. Sorry for talking your ears off (A man a word, a woman a wordbook...). Just so happy because my dog is recovering after his surgery and in three or four weeks we can be back to bushcraft.
I always use meths for my triangia and it's super-quick. Not tried the hand gel yet. That's a great idea if it works👍