Extra space in the bag can easily be for cooking utensils, and more dehydrated meals all in 1 bag. Silicone handles are becoming the norm. Unique design.
Hi Mark, nice review👍I've had my Petromax FK1 (500 ml) for about 2 years now and love it to bits. Boils the water damn quickly and uses minimal fuel. The 3 feet on the base are a real gamechanger to keep the fire bowl off the ground and the butterfly handles on the side certainly make it easy to pour and keep the hands well away from the top of the flue so you don't burn your pinkies.. This latest model looks really good. I was originally going to get a Kelly Kettle but when I contacted them directly they said they had problems shipping to Malaysia so I managed to source my FK1 ...from an an outdoor shop in Thailand ! I've never been fussed about not having Kellyesque attachments like the hobo stove as I can take my Trangia and Firebox Nano to cook with. As a pure water boiler for tea/ coffee and rehydrated meals, these storm kettles are hard to beat. ATVB from a warm and very wet Malaysia🇲🇾
Great review, thanks! One potential safety improvement might be to anodize the cap bright red, so it's clearly visible when setting up the kettle for heating. At the moment it 'blends in' with the spout a little too well... That might also help to find it later, when it inevitably rolls off the table and into the sticks and leaves on the forest floor (where every treasured camping tool disappears!) :)
This kettle is interesting, thanks for the introduction, Mark. To boil 750 ml of water, you only need a small handful of dry wood, which is very economical. I store chip and wax firelighters in the chimney of the kettle, along with a newspaper plug, which can also be used to start a larger fire. With just one or two firelighters, you can boil 1 liter of water. I suggest cutting the wood no longer than the diameter of the fire bowl. This way, you can take the kettle and put it down without having to put back branches that are too long and fall in all directions. It's much more practical 🙂
Good suggestions. I find longer thin sticks allow the flame to climb resulting in a faster boil but as you say, if when I Iift the kettle form the base, the sticks can fall out. Thanks for commenting
One tip, if I may please. When using any version of the many twig fed stoves available, carry a pair of garden secateurs. It's loads easier and quicker to cut and prep the fuel to light and feed the fire in the base. Especially if you're trying to burn gorse or thorn if that's the best available fuel. Cheers, Chris, from Cornwall, UK.
I have a Ghillio kettle and I endorse this message. Found this out on my trip out. I ended up carrying firestarter instead because it was quicker and drier.
I had to look up secateurs, though I guessed correctly from the context. I often carry pruners with me when hunting because every time I find a good tree to sit down against, there is always some sprouts growing right where I want to sit, or some brush my gun barrel would hit against.
I had to pause at 3:44, I love the idea of a screw on lid, not just for carrying water in it without spilling but on a cool/cold night after water is heated and off the fire screw the cap on and it would make a nice sleeping bag warmer
Petromax has really improved the classic version of this kettle. I bought the original, read the instructions and the warning about the cork, and put the pot away for a while. Naturally, I scalded my hands the first time I fired the pot up. The whistle top is a great thing. So are the legs on the bottom. The whole thing is now a useful bit of kit.
Very good presentation. First time on your channel. I had no idea that these existed, but as I watched this with my wife, when you mentioned 'rocket stove' I said "watch this, it won't take long to make that hot water!". Interesting one, thanks for posting.
Thanks for the video review Mark. I have the Kelley Trekker which I love, but think the improvements on this one make it better. Those handles on the side are great and those legs on the base fire bowl are a really good idea. Now I just want one to come out in titanium!
I have had the KellyKettle for about 15 years and I love it. When we are two or more it is a wonder for warm water and cooking. Have the assessories too. Love the video! The stand is amazing though. I think the bail handle and the chain is better though.
Absolutely love your review. So far I prefer alcohol stoves, mainly because they are silent and do not produce smoke or smell, but this one is worth a try! Greetings from the deep woods of 🌲🌲🇩🇪🌲🌲
Mark: I always enjoy your videos, as you write from my home province, I miss living there, My youngest sister did in fact move back, so we do have one member of the family who does have some smarts. Ha Ha
Mark, Thanks very much for this review. With the earthquake we just recently had in nearby Ishikawa prefecture, and very tough living conditions they are experiencing, I have been updating my emergency kit....and the Petromax is going to be part of that. It should arrive tomorrow.
Hi Mark, I have been thinking of pulling the trigger on a Kelly or a Ghille for some time now but the handles on that unit could be a real game changer for me. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.
After watching the first 4 minutes this morning, I stopped the video and ordered one from Lehman's. I'm going to try it with my Trangia and Swedish Army Svea alcohol burners for indoor emergency use. They might even work out doors with the burners. Double stacking looks interesting as well. Thanks! 😁
I'm happy to see you review this kettle , a very good product . Boil fast , no cooked hand like the Kelly and Ghillie ,my only gripe being i have to straighten the base occasionnally . thanks for sharing ! :)
The ability to store water and the side handles are a big plus. My Kelly kettle tends to sit on the shelf as it’s just too bulky to backpack. This is the first review I’ve seen of this brand so thanks.
Mark the Kelly Kettle Scout hobo stove attachment is the same size as the base camp hobo stove attachment. Enjoy your videos and reviews. Appreciate your time sir 😊
Just ordered the 1.5l version. The cap doesn't worry me to speak of, as the threads are a shallow roll form rather than machined. Has the Kelly kettle and others beat, hands down.
Great detailed video review. Thank you. Yes, those features of silicone prtected pouring handles, raised fire bowl with integral legs and the possibility of storing and carrying water already inside, are game changers. I have never owned a storm kettle, and use a variety of twig and other fuel type stoves for my trips. The fact this is stainless, over aluminium is also a huge plus for me. The only thing I would like to see on this for extra safety awareness for 'newbies' is to have the screw cap in fluorescent orange with a 'Remove Before Use' tag, permanently attatched. I am sure that could easily be done by bonding a flag to that lid. Then, there would be so little chance of anyone forgetting to remove it. If I buy one, I will certainly modify it that way for my own satisfaction and the safety of anyone who might borrow it. Overall, its a big improvement on the other basic storm kettles I have seen.
I wish I knew about this version when I was looking for a larger kettle. I have an MKettle which is great fun to use on day hikes and much lighter than any of the larger kettles. The handles and screw top lift this storm kettle to the top of the list in my opinion. Thanks for the great review.
@@MarkYoungBushcraftI liked this review so much that I purchased one last week. I really like storm kettles and this one has very practical features. I missed my chance to buy a Back Country Boiler. It was even lighter than the MKettle.
Love your video I am a Kelly kettle guy for last 20 years. Love the built in legs perhaps just me I could not trust myself with the screw top it would only be a matter of time before I heard a loud bang based on how many times my Kelly cork has popped out 😊
I have both the Kelly Kettle and a Ghillie Kettle. I see the screw on cap as a benefit for carrying water but if I was not comfortable having it on the kettle, I would probably just leave it home. Thanks for commenting
Most excellent review. 😎 Now I need a new kettle. You mentioned about screwing the lid back on to a kettle of hot water. My advice would be to never screw the lid down tight whilst the kettle and water is warm. As the water cools and shrinks, it'll pull a vacuum that'll make the lid almost impossible to get off again. Same goes for screwing a hot lid on to a cold kettle. I would also advise to never
I like the handles, nice addition. I have a Kelly Kettle and love it. I can see some of the benefits you mentioned, but I also think the bail for the Kelly is handy. Vast majority of use for me is sitting on the beach making a tea and I prefer to carry mine by the bale handle. I tried it for camping and never did find the fire base or the top to be great for cooking most things. To me, this is a perfect tool for those stormy days fishing. I really don't like the screw on cap and for me, that makes it a no go. While the cork or silicon option for the Kelly Kettle makes it less hand for carrying long distances (which I wouldn't anyway), the risk of the screw cap just isn't worth it for me. I camp with a lot of newer campers and inevitably, someone will accidentally make a bomb.
Thanks again for sharing. No reply necessary. The Kelly Kettle Scout has the same fire bowl as the Base Camp model (& accessories), but is shorter (than the BC). I have a hard anodised aluminium mKettle by Ghillie. Carries water too, all very compact. It's 500ml. But the fire bowl is small narrows to the base sharply and is tippy. I've made various additional stabilising supports, much needed. But would recommend it. Good for days out walking or cycling. Thanks again.
I have the exact same Mkettle and have also added extra stabilising legs from titanium tent pegs - which were useless as actual tent pegs, so were kind of free.
It has a lot of similarities to the Kelly Kettle and the Ghillie Kettle but some big differences as well. I have reviews on both those kettles if interested. Thanks for commenting
Nice. Although I already have 2 Kelly Kettle. Prefer the KK whistling plug, since don’t have to unscrew it, just pull it off. As for the carry screw cap, I found a rubber butterfly wing nut that plugs the opening.
I have been looking for an expansion plug to try in my KK and Ghillie. I agree about screwing off the whistle so I just lay it on the spout. Still works. Thanks for commenting
Another fine review. Those handle certainly are good. The screw on cap, that's a worry. Is the spout diameter small than the competitors? When you poured it didn't appear to pour smoothly. Also those base legs appear to do a great job providing just enough clearance from the ground, stable too. Thank you for your continued dedication in providing comprehensive reviews.
The diameter of the spout is a tiny bit smaller than the KK; however, it was not the issue when I poured the water. The water was still actively bubbling as I poured and I was trying not splash my meal out of the bowl. It works the same with the other storm kettles. Thanks for commenting
this thing looks awesome. After seeing your review of the Ghillie kettle I attempted to order one, directly from their site. Unfortunately it was one of the worst customer experiences I've ever had. after multiple emails over the course of multiple months, the only responses I got were "i'm on holiday, I'll figure it out next week". I ended up needing to get my bank to reverse the charges as I'm not wealthy enough to ignore 200 dollars down the drain. Perhaps it was a good thing that happened, as now I could spring for one of these if it seems like a true improvement. especially if the customer service is better than Ghillie.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought, ug another Kelly kittle nock off. I watched anyway and was surprised, I like it. A update/modernization, addresses the shortcomings of the Kelly etal.
Very nice design Kettle. I have one from a different brand and really like these type kettles, though to be honest, I rarely use it. They are very fast at boiling water that is for sure.
The Kelly Kettle might be easier to handle in one sense: the handles on the Petromax are probably too small to get a large gloved hand through. Increasing the size of the bails might be something that Petromax would consider. Kelly Kettle only makes two base sizes. The Base Camp and Scout use the same size (I have all three). Btw: I prefer the Scout to the Trekker model: the larger fire bowl and slightly larger diameter, which allow for greater volume inside of the water jacket, make it more useful and efficient. The larger diameter is the only drawback beside a few ounces. I do carry it on shorter hikes. I call it my backcountry microwave and my wood-fired Jetboil. Using it completely goes against my ultralight mantra, but I dabble in bushcraft as well. Thank you for another thought provoking video.
A storm kettle of this design, be it Kelly, Ghillie, or otherwise, is made to boil water only. I have the Trekker and the Scout. I will keep an eye on the sediment build up which is inevitable. When needed, I will boil a solution of 3 parts water with on part white vinegar to clean it out. If one only uses the cleanest water he can find, it should stay relatively clean. I like the .75 liter. Makes it just between the two I have for capacity. The Trekker is a little small and I find that I do two boils for a good meal and tea. If you keep your wood short, the fire will stay contained in the pan when you lift the pot. Then doing a second boil will be that much easier. Also makes your fire safer..... Thanks for sharing.
These are called Thermetes or Bengazi boilers in NZ,Troops were sent out to battle Fritz in North Africa in WW11 and NZ road workers have used them since the 1930s.Theres probably no patent on them because of their simplicity.
I liked the stand for fire pot. Handy. Dont look real sturdy or long lasting, but great idea. I like the cap.. with most anything, person must use common sense!! Safty 1st, shouldn't be problem at all
They should make it be a pop-on cap instead of threaded. That way it will pop off if pressure builds. Would also be good if there was some insulation on the exterior of it.
This model is made of steel, unlike most other brands (as well as some other Petromax models) that are made of aluminium. Aluminium melts at a much lower temperature than steel, and is therefore much more prone to warping. This means this particular model should be much more suitable for cooking on the chimney, even without water inside. I say "should" because although I own one, I haven't used it enough to confirm this yet. Still, it should be much more durable (albeit heavier). Steel, even stainless, is however prone to rusting, especially since soot turns caustic when combined with water. So either store it bone dry (comes with the burning) or spotlessly clean (nearly impossible), but never ever wet whilst full of ash. (please correct me if I'm wrong on this)
This type of water boiler was invented in New Zealand and called thermette, Was nicknamed Benghazi boiler by nz troupes in WW2 Often was used with oil ( used ) soaked rag in desert 🐪
GSI ketalist - smaller yet plenty enough capacity for lunch and a cuppa, wide enough for carrying an alcohol burner like the Evernew titanium or Goshawk mini burner and stand, etc. Much less weight, much less bulk, same results, silicone handles too! 480 grammes (just over 17 oz) with the Evernew burner inside, cups, lighter, spork and cleaning sponge. Easy!
Petromax manufactures a Fire Stand, which is two stainless steel cross bars with various, downwards pointing protrusions *(or legs)* that interlock in an X-shape. The Petromax website is vague as to whether the Fire Stand functions with the Fire Bowl of the Fire Kettle, but my suspicions are that it will fit the 0.75 liter model, but perhaps not the 1.5 liter model.
Fingers crossed one day you can test, better still compare & contrast test, the two 500ml UK variants, each £60. One is the "mKettle SAS" and the other the "Desert Storm DS Kettle". Perhaps reach out to them? 1000ml and 750ml are great sizes, but for two mugs of tea the 500ml are beautiful.
Apart from the "Screw" cap these Kettles are the best way to heat Water and ideal for filling hot water bottles to stick in a sleeping bag! I would Guess the Petromax costs quite a lot more than the Kelly? That said I think the folding handles, the bigger diameter firebowl and the folding legs make for a good contender! Do they make the equivalent size to Kelly's basecamp do You know? Very impressed though I must say 👍 nb just seen the link You have attached and yes they do make a 1.5 ltr and not much more costly 👍
Yeah I'd take this any day over the Kelly kettle models, but the only one I actually want is the mKettle from Ghillie. 370g, 500ml, serves as a water bottle too. Much lighter so it could serve as a backpacking item. Problem is lower capacity, the cap isn't as good, and the burner is a bit too small, which makes a difference as you said, comparing it to the kelly. The best part about this Petromax is the handles and the burner's feet.
It's a beauty, but I wasn't expecting all that smoke. I don't recall ever seeing a Kelly Kettle smoke like that. It was nice seeing the forrest. It's -8c outside right now here in Ohio. Curious as to what kind of noodles you are rehydrating.
The smoke was caused by the birch bark and maybe slightly damp wood. It gets cleaner as it heats up The KK or Ghillie would have been the same using the same fuel. We are at -8C this morning as well. This video was recorded in early November. Much warmer then. Not noodles but a homemade Keto hot breakfast mix. I will be doing a video on it soon. Thanks for commenting
I have titanium kettles as we.. I see this as something different altogether. To start, the stove is built in. It is faster and works in the rain. Thanks for commenting
Okay, Its a good idea. I like the handles on the side of the kettle, plus the screw on lid. But what if its been raining for a few days. Cant find any dry wood, or very little. Could you use a Trangia spirit burner ? I am most likely going to get the Kelly Kettle, due to the hobo stove and various other bits of kit you can get with it.
@mark young Good Review Mark. What I find most interesting is that cool looking jacket you're wearing in this video. I scrolled through your video list and was wondering if you ever did a review on it? It looks like wool with another reinforcement fabric over the shoulders to protect the garment from straps. Do you happen to recall the brand by any chance? PS: I just decided to use that jacket design on a vintage jacket. I have enough wool, so don't think I should buy more. I plan on taking one of my matching fabrics and wax/oilcloth/ duck cloth treatment, and adding it to protect from light rain and pack wear. BTW, yours looks exceptionally good for woods or urban camo. You could bow hunt if you wanted to or fit in at formal meetings with no issues.
@@MarkYoungBushcraftWow, You got a real blessing. I doubt if there's any coincidence that you were the one who happened to have the opportunity to get such a fine jacket at that thrift store. The Lord showed you His kindness. I should say both of us because my Dad gave me his. It's also a natural plaid, but doesn't have the shoulder cover. He bought it at Sears. I hope you enjoy that for many happy decades in the woods.
I have carried jet boils or small solo style twig burners and a cub or pan for years. I have not seen that tyle of jet stove twig burner with water container all in one before . Never heard of kelly stove either. I do most of my camping VA,NC,TN areas. is that a northern/canadian design? Looks awesome. thanks
To the best of my knowledge, this style of storm kettle originated in the UK. I own two form the Irish company Kelly Kettle, one from the English company Ghillie Kettle and this one made in Germany. Thanks for commenting
Looks like a cool version....apart from the cap😂. I have a good old Kelly and the whole concept is excellent. Drinking from still pool not a great idea though. Even if you are boiling it.
Since I've been looking at Kelly Kettles (about 2 years) the one thing that has bugged me is their lack of folding handles like these. In this video, your hand/four fingers look like they're a little cramped for space within the handle, as it appears the opening could been made "taller". I do like the wire pan adapter for the top and the wire feet on the burn pan... this gives the unit a wider stance so, hopefully, it's more stable. The one drawback of the wire feet is that the burn pan is not leak-proof... as in you can't put alcohol directly into the burn pan ,as you can with a Kelly Kettle. And the ability to carry water inside is a big bonus. All of these improvements are something Kelly Kettle dropped the ball on and basically invited competitors to make a better design. There's a video here on YT where a gent puts denatured alcohol into the burn pan of a trekker and brings the .6L of water to a boil in less than 3 minutes, fifteen seconds, which is really fast for an "alcohol stove." Another video shows the boil time @ 2:56. Here are links: th-cam.com/video/6ursdlAOnnw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUYWxjb2hvbCBrZWxseSBrZXR0bGU%3D th-cam.com/video/4cxvtF63tKw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sitdwnandhngon
I have tried a number of ways to use alcohol with my Trekker except directly in the fire bowl. Will have to give this a try. The folding handles have more room than it looks like on the video. I have used it with winter gloves with no issues. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks, Mark. I think this Petromax is the one I will get when they're back in stock at Lehman's Hardware. The video I was referring to is here: th-cam.com/video/6ursdlAOnnw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUYWxjb2hvbCBrZWxseSBrZXR0bGU%3D
Have you ever tried using solid fuel or an alcohol stove with a storm kettle? If so what were the results? It occurs to me that you could store a fire kit inside the kettle if you don't mind a little soot.
Yes, I have tried a number of alternative fuels with my original KK and have been planing on making a video for them. I will push it up on my work list. Thanks for commenting
So....Petromax makes from pretty high quality and premium stuff. I fully expect to pass down my Petromax HK500 high pressure brass lantern down to my grandkids and expect they'll be able to pass it along again to theirs. Honestly...it's that well made. This volcano kettle appears to be no exception. Sadly, the incremental improvements don't seem to be significant enough to go grab one on top of the Kelly Kettle and accessories I already own.
I have the whistling silicone cap on my Kelley Kettle and it’s easy to take off without upsetting the kettle. I don’t think the screw-on whistle is well thought out though, it doesn’t keep water in so the threads are unnecessary and who wants to unscrew a metal cap that has steam coming through it?
G'day Mark, looks to be very well made, I like a whistler too. Great that it can carry water around, though a bit of a beast to carry on the trail IMO. Something I'd use car camping, I reckon. Obviously you cant cook inside it like a pot; .... on top I'm sure it'd work well enough, but I wonder if you'd boil it dry in the process ? Also, how would one effectively clean out the water reservoir ? Sure, the heat will deal with a lot of micro-nasties, though for scale perhaps other solid matter, I dont think you'll be getting very far with scourer or bottle brush ; ) I s'pose you could introduce a chemical, even then I like to see that its properly done the business. Hey, I'm cool with a caveman steak for example, but a survival scenario aside, lets just say I'm not a big fan of "unidentified" floaters in my water, ........ there's quite literally, "clean dirt", and then there's ..... "dirty dirt" ; ) Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. I guess if I was worried about silt and the like building up inside I would start with a filter like a Millbank bag. As you say, heat will kill the nasties. After that, maybe a full rinse. Thanks for commenting
I still think the New Zealand thermette is a better design, fire ring on the bottom, cooking ring on the top so you can cook and boil water at the same time. Ok, no cap, but at least it won't explode like that one will if you forget to take the cap off.
I have the base camp Kelly which i like, but do like the tri-leg fire pot stand on this one. The folding side handle is nice, but it could still be a knuckle burner. Would take getting used to, but not hard. The Kelly bail handle and chain on the other hand can be used two-handed which allows you to hold the kettle with the bail on the side but its tricky. Kelly could fix that so easy with a little redesign, and there are lots of ways they could approach it. Just don't pickup the Kelly off that fire with the bail handle and chimney swinging under your hand. No No No. You will never do again.
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Those small improvements to the classic design really make a difference. That is one sturdy looking storm kettle. Thanks for sharing it Mark!
It is a step up for sure. Thanks for commenting Steve
Extra space in the bag can easily be for cooking utensils, and more dehydrated meals all in 1 bag. Silicone handles are becoming the norm. Unique design.
I agree, the larger bag is a real benefit. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark, nice review👍I've had my Petromax FK1 (500 ml) for about 2 years now and love it to bits. Boils the water damn quickly and uses minimal fuel. The 3 feet on the base are a real gamechanger to keep the fire bowl off the ground and the butterfly handles on the side certainly make it easy to pour and keep the hands well away from the top of the flue so you don't burn your pinkies.. This latest model looks really good. I was originally going to get a Kelly Kettle but when I contacted them directly they said they had problems shipping to Malaysia so I managed to source my FK1 ...from an an outdoor shop in Thailand ! I've never been fussed about not having Kellyesque attachments like the hobo stove as I can take my Trangia and Firebox Nano to cook with. As a pure water boiler for tea/ coffee and rehydrated meals, these storm kettles are hard to beat. ATVB from a warm and very wet Malaysia🇲🇾
Yours is a great review based on experience. Thanks for commenting
Great review, thanks! One potential safety improvement might be to anodize the cap bright red, so it's clearly visible when setting up the kettle for heating. At the moment it 'blends in' with the spout a little too well...
That might also help to find it later, when it inevitably rolls off the table and into the sticks and leaves on the forest floor (where every treasured camping tool disappears!) :)
That is a great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
This kettle is interesting, thanks for the introduction, Mark.
To boil 750 ml of water, you only need a small handful of dry wood, which is very economical.
I store chip and wax firelighters in the chimney of the kettle, along with a newspaper plug, which can also be used to start a larger fire.
With just one or two firelighters, you can boil 1 liter of water.
I suggest cutting the wood no longer than the diameter of the fire bowl. This way, you can take the kettle and put it down without having to put back branches that are too long and fall in all directions. It's much more practical 🙂
Good suggestions. I find longer thin sticks allow the flame to climb resulting in a faster boil but as you say, if when I Iift the kettle form the base, the sticks can fall out. Thanks for commenting
One tip, if I may please.
When using any version of the many twig fed stoves available, carry a pair of garden secateurs.
It's loads easier and quicker to cut and prep the fuel to light and feed the fire in the base. Especially if you're trying to burn gorse or thorn if that's the best available fuel.
Cheers, Chris, from Cornwall, UK.
Thanks for the tip
I do the same. Very efficient.
I have a Ghillio kettle and I endorse this message. Found this out on my trip out. I ended up carrying firestarter instead because it was quicker and drier.
I had to look up secateurs, though I guessed correctly from the context. I often carry pruners with me when hunting because every time I find a good tree to sit down against, there is always some sprouts growing right where I want to sit, or some brush my gun barrel would hit against.
I had to pause at 3:44, I love the idea of a screw on lid, not just for carrying water in it without spilling but on a cool/cold night after water is heated and off the fire screw the cap on and it would make a nice sleeping bag warmer
I agree it could as long as you put it in a bag to keep the soot from getting things dirty. Thanks for commenting
As always, you’re a great teacher. The Petromax Storm Kettle is fine kit. Thank you for the instruction and demonstration, from East Tennessee.
Most welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting
One of the few times I see anyone even mentioning the Siege Stove product. Highly underrated. Great review of another storm kettle option! Thank you.
The Siege stove bard and the full Siege stoves are great for sure. I have a full video or two if interested. Thanks for commenting
@MarkYoungBushcraft yes, please.
Petromax has really improved the classic version of this kettle. I bought the original, read the instructions and the warning about the cork, and put the pot away for a while. Naturally, I scalded my hands the first time I fired the pot up. The whistle top is a great thing. So are the legs on the bottom. The whole thing is now a useful bit of kit.
I agree they have done a good job of addressing the issues. Thanks for commenting
Very nice kettle! It looks like it has addressed a few of my Kelly Kettle’s shortcomings.
I agree. Thanks for commenting
Very good presentation. First time on your channel. I had no idea that these existed, but as I watched this with my wife, when you mentioned 'rocket stove' I said "watch this, it won't take long to make that hot water!". Interesting one, thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting
In THIS CASE, the Butterfly Handles are definitely an ADVANTAGE!
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Thank you, Mark! Another great video!
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Really a great review and what looks like a pretty neat product. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work, Mark. -Tim
Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting
I like the handles and being able to cap it to transport water. 🤗💕
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Rockin' the bushcraft look there, Mark. 👌
Got to look good when you are out there😅. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Sure do. It's the law.
Thx for very informative video on this system!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Looks like a great kettle Mark, I can see one in my future. Thanks.
Good choice. Thanks for commenting
Thanks foe this great video. I was never interviewed in storm kettles until your review.
This ine looks excellent. I’ll check out the Canadian website
Worth looking at for sure. Thanks for commenting Alex
Thanks for the video review Mark. I have the Kelley Trekker which I love, but think the improvements on this one make it better. Those handles on the side are great and those legs on the base fire bowl are a really good idea. Now I just want one to come out in titanium!
Titanium would be amazing. Even hard anodized aluminum would reduce weight without reducing strength. Thanks for commenting
Titanium doesn't transfer heat well, it would take much longer
Glad I saw this. Haven't tried these yet. If I do, Ill purchase this. This Video highlights the unique features very nicely.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting
I have had the KellyKettle for about 15 years and I love it. When we are two or more it is a wonder for warm water and cooking. Have the assessories too. Love the video! The stand is amazing though. I think the bail handle and the chain is better though.
Thanks for commenting
Well done. That’s a good looking setup.
Thanks for commenting Shane
Absolutely love your review. So far I prefer alcohol stoves, mainly because they are silent and do not produce smoke or smell, but this one is worth a try! Greetings from the deep woods of 🌲🌲🇩🇪🌲🌲
I prefer alcohol when I don't use a wood stove. This is just so much fun to use and very efficient. Thanks for commenting
Mark: I always enjoy your videos, as you write from my home province, I miss living there, My youngest sister did in fact move back, so we do have one member of the family who does have some smarts. Ha Ha
Hopefully, you will have an opportunity to come home. Even if only for a visit. Thanks for commenting
Mark,
Thanks very much for this review. With the earthquake we just recently had in nearby Ishikawa prefecture, and very tough living conditions they are experiencing, I have been updating my emergency kit....and the Petromax is going to be part of that. It should arrive tomorrow.
I was so sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope all turns out well. Thanks for commenting
Yup. That thing is sweet. Thanks, Mark!
Right on! Thanks for commenting
Mark I just got one, tx for your review😉
Most welcome. I am sure you will enjoy using it
I've never seen one of those. Very interesting! Gonna look into them.
Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark, I have been thinking of pulling the trigger on a Kelly or a Ghille for some time now but the handles on that unit could be a real game changer for me. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.
I have all three brands and feel this is the highest quality overall, followed my the Ghillie and then the KK. Thanks for commenting
After watching the first 4 minutes this morning, I stopped the video and ordered one from Lehman's. I'm going to try it with my Trangia and Swedish Army Svea alcohol burners for indoor emergency use. They might even work out doors with the burners. Double stacking looks interesting as well. Thanks! 😁
I will be makin a video at some point showing options to using wood with these stoves. Thanks for commenting
Thank you for this video, Mark
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Really Like This Kettle's & Features Shared Mark ! Fair Price Too ! ATB T God Bless
Thanks for commenting Terry
I'm happy to see you review this kettle , a very good product . Boil fast , no cooked hand like the Kelly and Ghillie ,my only gripe being i have to straighten the base occasionnally . thanks for sharing ! :)
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Looks like a lot of fun yet ...very heavy as well as bulky. Maybe for car camping when open flames are allowed. Thanks for the video.
Not for ultralight hiking for sure but not bad for short hikes. Thanks for commenting
The ability to store water and the side handles are a big plus. My Kelly kettle tends to sit on the shelf as it’s just too bulky to backpack. This is the first review I’ve seen of this brand so thanks.
Yes, they are huge advancements over the KK. Thanks for commenting
Mark the Kelly Kettle Scout hobo stove attachment is the same size as the base camp hobo stove attachment.
Enjoy your videos and reviews. Appreciate your time sir 😊
Thanks for commenting
😊looks good. Thanks for sharing and take care 😊
Thank you! You too!
Interesting,was looking into these type of kettles
Great bit of kit Steve. Fast, easy, efficient and fun to use. Thanks for commenting
Just ordered the 1.5l version. The cap doesn't worry me to speak of, as the threads are a shallow roll form rather than machined.
Has the Kelly kettle and others beat, hands down.
Right on. This is the best I have ever tested. Thanks for commenting
Great detailed video review. Thank you. Yes, those features of silicone prtected pouring handles, raised fire bowl with integral legs and the possibility of storing and carrying water already inside, are game changers. I have never owned a storm kettle, and use a variety of twig and other fuel type stoves for my trips. The fact this is stainless, over aluminium is also a huge plus for me. The only thing I would like to see on this for extra safety awareness for 'newbies' is to have the screw cap in fluorescent orange with a 'Remove Before Use' tag, permanently attatched. I am sure that could easily be done by bonding a flag to that lid. Then, there would be so little chance of anyone forgetting to remove it. If I buy one, I will certainly modify it that way for my own satisfaction and the safety of anyone who might borrow it. Overall, its a big improvement on the other basic storm kettles I have seen.
I agree. Not sure why Petromax is not taking it more seriously. Thanks for commenting
I wish I knew about this version when I was looking for a larger kettle. I have an MKettle which is great fun to use on day hikes and much lighter than any of the larger kettles. The handles and screw top lift this storm kettle to the top of the list in my opinion. Thanks for the great review.
I own three different brand storm kettles and this is my favourite for sure. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraftI liked this review so much that I purchased one last week. I really like storm kettles and this one has very practical features. I missed my chance to buy a Back Country Boiler. It was even lighter than the MKettle.
My...neat little kettle!
Sure is, Thanks for commenting
Love your video I am a Kelly kettle guy for last 20 years. Love the built in legs perhaps just me I could not trust myself with the screw top it would only be a matter of time before I heard a loud bang based on how many times my Kelly cork has popped out 😊
I have both the Kelly Kettle and a Ghillie Kettle. I see the screw on cap as a benefit for carrying water but if I was not comfortable having it on the kettle, I would probably just leave it home. Thanks for commenting
Most excellent review. 😎 Now I need a new kettle.
You mentioned about screwing the lid back on to a kettle of hot water. My advice would be to never screw the lid down tight whilst the kettle and water is warm. As the water cools and shrinks, it'll pull a vacuum that'll make the lid almost impossible to get off again. Same goes for screwing a hot lid on to a cold kettle.
I would also advise to never
I advise to never, as well . . .
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GSI Ketalist kit - a worthy alternative, less than half the weight, storage for burner inside it.
Yes, your advise applies well to other things like the Trangia. Thanks for commenting
Good review Mark thanks for sharing YAH bless !
My pleasure. Thanks for commenting
Great information.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Thank you for the video.
You're welcome. Thanks for commenting
I like the handles, nice addition. I have a Kelly Kettle and love it. I can see some of the benefits you mentioned, but I also think the bail for the Kelly is handy. Vast majority of use for me is sitting on the beach making a tea and I prefer to carry mine by the bale handle. I tried it for camping and never did find the fire base or the top to be great for cooking most things. To me, this is a perfect tool for those stormy days fishing. I really don't like the screw on cap and for me, that makes it a no go. While the cork or silicon option for the Kelly Kettle makes it less hand for carrying long distances (which I wouldn't anyway), the risk of the screw cap just isn't worth it for me. I camp with a lot of newer campers and inevitably, someone will accidentally make a bomb.
Thanks for commenting
Thanks again for sharing.
No reply necessary.
The Kelly Kettle Scout has the same fire bowl as the Base Camp model (& accessories), but is shorter (than the BC).
I have a hard anodised aluminium mKettle by Ghillie. Carries water too, all very compact. It's 500ml. But the fire bowl is small narrows to the base sharply and is tippy. I've made various additional stabilising supports, much needed.
But would recommend it. Good for days out walking or cycling.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the info!
I have the exact same Mkettle and have also added extra stabilising legs from titanium tent pegs - which were useless as actual tent pegs, so were kind of free.
wow i love it i got the kelty kettle looks just like it,, cool
It has a lot of similarities to the Kelly Kettle and the Ghillie Kettle but some big differences as well. I have reviews on both those kettles if interested. Thanks for commenting
I also like the screw cap and the handles,overall though I’d also be happy with a Kelly or Ghillie,they are probably equally good.
Thanks for commenting
Nice. Although I already have 2 Kelly Kettle.
Prefer the KK whistling plug, since don’t have to unscrew it, just pull it off. As for the carry screw cap, I found a rubber butterfly wing nut that plugs the opening.
I have been looking for an expansion plug to try in my KK and Ghillie. I agree about screwing off the whistle so I just lay it on the spout. Still works. Thanks for commenting
Great video! Very informative! Changed my mind from the kelly kettle to petromax!! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Another fine review. Those handle certainly are good. The screw on cap, that's a worry. Is the spout diameter small than the competitors? When you poured it didn't appear to pour smoothly. Also those base legs appear to do a great job providing just enough clearance from the ground, stable too. Thank you for your continued dedication in providing comprehensive reviews.
The diameter of the spout is a tiny bit smaller than the KK; however, it was not the issue when I poured the water. The water was still actively bubbling as I poured and I was trying not splash my meal out of the bowl. It works the same with the other storm kettles. Thanks for commenting
this thing looks awesome. After seeing your review of the Ghillie kettle I attempted to order one, directly from their site. Unfortunately it was one of the worst customer experiences I've ever had. after multiple emails over the course of multiple months, the only responses I got were "i'm on holiday, I'll figure it out next week". I ended up needing to get my bank to reverse the charges as I'm not wealthy enough to ignore 200 dollars down the drain. Perhaps it was a good thing that happened, as now I could spring for one of these if it seems like a true improvement. especially if the customer service is better than Ghillie.
That was unfortunate to say the least. Thanks for commenting
Thank you 😊
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
When I saw the thumbnail I thought, ug another Kelly kittle nock off. I watched anyway and was surprised, I like it. A update/modernization, addresses the shortcomings of the Kelly etal.
Yes, exactly. Thanks for commenting
Very nice design Kettle. I have one from a different brand and really like these type kettles, though to be honest, I rarely use it. They are very fast at boiling water that is for sure.
Hi Lonnie. They can be a bit bulky and probably best suited to being carried on an ATV or snowmobile. But they are so efficient. Thanks for commenting
The Kelly Kettle might be easier to handle in one sense: the handles on the Petromax are probably too small to get a large gloved hand through. Increasing the size of the bails might be something that Petromax would consider.
Kelly Kettle only makes two base sizes. The Base Camp and Scout use the same size (I have all three).
Btw: I prefer the Scout to the Trekker model: the larger fire bowl and slightly larger diameter, which allow for greater volume inside of the water jacket, make it more useful and efficient. The larger diameter is the only drawback beside a few ounces. I do carry it on shorter hikes. I call it my backcountry microwave and my wood-fired Jetboil.
Using it completely goes against my ultralight mantra, but I dabble in bushcraft as well.
Thank you for another thought provoking video.
Actually, the handles on the Petromax are plenty big. I use winter gloves and have room to spare. Thanks for commenting
A storm kettle of this design, be it Kelly, Ghillie, or otherwise, is made to boil water only. I have the Trekker and the Scout. I will keep an eye on the sediment build up which is inevitable. When needed, I will boil a solution of 3 parts water with on part white vinegar to clean it out. If one only uses the cleanest water he can find, it should stay relatively clean. I like the .75 liter. Makes it just between the two I have for capacity. The Trekker is a little small and I find that I do two boils for a good meal and tea. If you keep your wood short, the fire will stay contained in the pan when you lift the pot. Then doing a second boil will be that much easier. Also makes your fire safer..... Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your tips
These are called Thermetes or Bengazi boilers in NZ,Troops were sent out to battle Fritz in North Africa in WW11 and NZ road workers have used them since the 1930s.Theres probably no patent on them because of their simplicity.
Yes, I have heard both those names in my research. Thanks for commenting
Basically a Samovar . I like it .
Yes, pretty much. Thanks for commenting
I liked the stand for fire pot. Handy. Dont look real sturdy or long lasting, but great idea. I like the cap.. with most anything, person must use common sense!! Safty 1st, shouldn't be problem at all
I agree. Thanks for commenting
Fantasic review
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for commenting
The handle and cap are an improvement. Perhaps some kind of grill setup with nuts and bolts as legs if you don't have a cross stand might work. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦
I agree, Petromax could add a few features to make it a bit more versatile. Thanks for commenting
Wow that’s fast !!!
Sure is. That is what this type of kettle is all about. Thanks for commenting
Never had heard of this one before. I do like the handles and the legs. I just wish Kelly and these other makers would try titanium to reduce weight.
Ghillie Kettle makes a hard anodized aluminum version that is pretty much as light and strong as titanium but much cheaper. Thanks for commenting
They should make it be a pop-on cap instead of threaded. That way it will pop off if pressure builds. Would also be good if there was some insulation on the exterior of it.
I have mentioned the lid concerns to Petromax. Thanks for commenting
This model is made of steel, unlike most other brands (as well as some other Petromax models) that are made of aluminium. Aluminium melts at a much lower temperature than steel, and is therefore much more prone to warping. This means this particular model should be much more suitable for cooking on the chimney, even without water inside. I say "should" because although I own one, I haven't used it enough to confirm this yet. Still, it should be much more durable (albeit heavier). Steel, even stainless, is however prone to rusting, especially since soot turns caustic when combined with water. So either store it bone dry (comes with the burning) or spotlessly clean (nearly impossible), but never ever wet whilst full of ash. (please correct me if I'm wrong on this)
Also, I found that a large 900g milk powder can neatly fits the fire bowl, which means you can tinker your own hobo stove from one of those!
I appreciate you sharing your experience with this kettle. Thanks for commenting
This type of water boiler was invented in New Zealand and called thermette,
Was nicknamed Benghazi boiler by nz troupes in WW2
Often was used with oil ( used ) soaked rag in desert 🐪
Thanks for commenting
GSI ketalist - smaller yet plenty enough capacity for lunch and a cuppa, wide enough for carrying an alcohol burner like the Evernew titanium or Goshawk mini burner and stand, etc. Much less weight, much less bulk, same results, silicone handles too! 480 grammes (just over 17 oz) with the Evernew burner inside, cups, lighter, spork and cleaning sponge. Easy!
I own and enjoy my Ketalist but see it as something different altogether. Thanks for commenting
Polish SurvivalKettle has same handles. I like it very much
I will take a look. Thanks for commenting
Petromax manufactures a Fire Stand, which is two stainless steel cross bars with various, downwards pointing protrusions *(or legs)* that interlock in an X-shape. The Petromax website is vague as to whether the Fire Stand functions with the Fire Bowl of the Fire Kettle, but my suspicions are that it will fit the 0.75 liter model, but perhaps not the 1.5 liter model.
I just checked on that and am looking to see if I can get them. Thanks for commenting
Fingers crossed one day you can test, better still compare & contrast test, the two 500ml UK variants, each £60. One is the "mKettle SAS" and the other the "Desert Storm DS Kettle". Perhaps reach out to them? 1000ml and 750ml are great sizes, but for two mugs of tea the 500ml are beautiful.
I have one Ghillie Kettle but I am very interested in these smaller ones. Hopefully, I can get my hands on them. Thanks for commenting
Would be nice if it showed up at Lidl's in the US.
Thanks for commenting
Apart from the "Screw" cap these Kettles are the best way to heat Water and ideal for filling hot water bottles to stick in a sleeping bag! I would Guess the Petromax costs quite a lot more than the Kelly? That said I think the folding handles, the bigger diameter firebowl and the folding legs make for a good contender! Do they make the equivalent size to Kelly's basecamp do You know? Very impressed though I must say 👍 nb just seen the link You have attached and yes they do make a 1.5 ltr and not much more costly 👍
Thanks for commenting
Yeah I'd take this any day over the Kelly kettle models, but the only one I actually want is the mKettle from Ghillie. 370g, 500ml, serves as a water bottle too. Much lighter so it could serve as a backpacking item. Problem is lower capacity, the cap isn't as good, and the burner is a bit too small, which makes a difference as you said, comparing it to the kelly.
The best part about this Petromax is the handles and the burner's feet.
I hope to try the MKettle at some point. Thanks for commenting
Ive been looking at which kettle to buy. I like this one.
Good choice! Thanks for commenting
It's a beauty, but I wasn't expecting all that smoke. I don't recall ever seeing a Kelly Kettle smoke like that. It was nice seeing the forrest. It's -8c outside right now here in Ohio. Curious as to what kind of noodles you are rehydrating.
The smoke was caused by the birch bark and maybe slightly damp wood. It gets cleaner as it heats up The KK or Ghillie would have been the same using the same fuel. We are at -8C this morning as well. This video was recorded in early November. Much warmer then. Not noodles but a homemade Keto hot breakfast mix. I will be doing a video on it soon. Thanks for commenting
titanium simple kettle no one beats it even this kettle
I have titanium kettles as we.. I see this as something different altogether. To start, the stove is built in. It is faster and works in the rain. Thanks for commenting
Okay, Its a good idea. I like the handles on the side of the kettle, plus the screw on lid. But what if its been raining for a few days. Cant find any dry wood, or very little. Could you use a Trangia spirit burner ? I am most likely going to get the Kelly Kettle, due to the hobo stove and various other bits of kit you can get with it.
I am working on a video about using fuels other than wood. Thanks for commenting
The scout kelly kettle is the same diameter, and uses the same base and hobo stove, as the base camp one.
I appreciate the info. Thanks for commenting
@mark young Good Review Mark.
What I find most interesting is that cool looking jacket you're wearing in this video. I scrolled through your video list and was wondering if you ever did a review on it? It looks like wool with another reinforcement fabric over the shoulders to protect the garment from straps. Do you happen to recall the brand by any chance?
PS: I just decided to use that jacket design on a vintage jacket. I have enough wool, so don't think I should buy more. I plan on taking one of my matching fabrics and wax/oilcloth/ duck cloth treatment, and adding it to protect from light rain and pack wear. BTW, yours looks exceptionally good for woods or urban camo. You could bow hunt if you wanted to or fit in at formal meetings with no issues.
My shirt is by Fjallraven. I picked it up in a thrift store. Great bit of kit but very expensive new. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraftWow, You got a real blessing. I doubt if there's any coincidence that you were the one who happened to have the opportunity to get such a fine jacket at that thrift store. The Lord showed you His kindness. I should say both of us because my Dad gave me his. It's also a natural plaid, but doesn't have the shoulder cover. He bought it at Sears.
I hope you enjoy that for many happy decades in the woods.
Nice.
Thanks for commenting
I have carried jet boils or small solo style twig burners and a cub or pan for years. I have not seen that tyle of jet stove twig burner with water container all in one before . Never heard of kelly stove either. I do most of my camping VA,NC,TN areas. is that a northern/canadian design? Looks awesome. thanks
To the best of my knowledge, this style of storm kettle originated in the UK. I own two form the Irish company Kelly Kettle, one from the English company Ghillie Kettle and this one made in Germany. Thanks for commenting
Looks like a cool version....apart from the cap😂. I have a good old Kelly and the whole concept is excellent.
Drinking from still pool not a great idea though. Even if you are boiling it.
Thanks for commenting
Since I've been looking at Kelly Kettles (about 2 years) the one thing that has bugged me is their lack of folding handles like these. In this video, your hand/four fingers look like they're a little cramped for space within the handle, as it appears the opening could been made "taller". I do like the wire pan adapter for the top and the wire feet on the burn pan... this gives the unit a wider stance so, hopefully, it's more stable. The one drawback of the wire feet is that the burn pan is not leak-proof... as in you can't put alcohol directly into the burn pan ,as you can with a Kelly Kettle. And the ability to carry water inside is a big bonus. All of these improvements are something Kelly Kettle dropped the ball on and basically invited competitors to make a better design.
There's a video here on YT where a gent puts denatured alcohol into the burn pan of a trekker and brings the .6L of water to a boil in less than 3 minutes, fifteen seconds, which is really fast for an "alcohol stove." Another video shows the boil time @ 2:56.
Here are links:
th-cam.com/video/6ursdlAOnnw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUYWxjb2hvbCBrZWxseSBrZXR0bGU%3D
th-cam.com/video/4cxvtF63tKw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sitdwnandhngon
I have tried a number of ways to use alcohol with my Trekker except directly in the fire bowl. Will have to give this a try. The folding handles have more room than it looks like on the video. I have used it with winter gloves with no issues. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks, Mark. I think this Petromax is the one I will get when they're back in stock at Lehman's Hardware. The video I was referring to is here: th-cam.com/video/6ursdlAOnnw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUUYWxjb2hvbCBrZWxseSBrZXR0bGU%3D
Have you ever tried using solid fuel or an alcohol stove with a storm kettle? If so what were the results?
It occurs to me that you could store a fire kit inside the kettle if you don't mind a little soot.
Yes, I have tried a number of alternative fuels with my original KK and have been planing on making a video for them. I will push it up on my work list. Thanks for commenting
So....Petromax makes from pretty high quality and premium stuff. I fully expect to pass down my Petromax HK500 high pressure brass lantern down to my grandkids and expect they'll be able to pass it along again to theirs. Honestly...it's that well made.
This volcano kettle appears to be no exception. Sadly, the incremental improvements don't seem to be significant enough to go grab one on top of the Kelly Kettle and accessories I already own.
I can understand that if you already own another kettle. Thanks for commenting
The "Kelly Kettle" has a Rubber stopper that would be Far more safer than a screw-on lid. Be prepared and be safe my friends.
Thanks for commenting
I have the whistling silicone cap on my Kelley Kettle and it’s easy to take off without upsetting the kettle. I don’t think the screw-on whistle is well thought out though, it doesn’t keep water in so the threads are unnecessary and who wants to unscrew a metal cap that has steam coming through it?
I agree with you. I have been able to to just sit it on the spout but it does not work well like that. Thanks for commenting
I've never seen these before. They are interesting, but I think I'll stick to my JetBoil, though.
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G'day Mark, looks to be very well made, I like a whistler too. Great that it can carry water around, though a bit of a beast to carry on the trail IMO. Something I'd use car camping, I reckon.
Obviously you cant cook inside it like a pot; .... on top I'm sure it'd work well enough, but I wonder if you'd boil it dry in the process ?
Also, how would one effectively clean out the water reservoir ? Sure, the heat will deal with a lot of micro-nasties, though for scale perhaps other solid matter, I dont think you'll be getting very far with scourer or bottle brush ; ) I s'pose you could introduce a chemical, even then I like to see that its properly done the business.
Hey, I'm cool with a caveman steak for example, but a survival scenario aside, lets just say I'm not a big fan of "unidentified" floaters in my water, ........ there's quite literally, "clean dirt", and then there's ..... "dirty dirt" ; )
Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. I guess if I was worried about silt and the like building up inside I would start with a filter like a Millbank bag. As you say, heat will kill the nasties. After that, maybe a full rinse. Thanks for commenting
You could boil a 50% - 50% water / vinegar mix for mineral buildup in the water tank area.
@@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival G'day mate, that'd be a good solution, pardon the pun. Cheers Duke.
I still think the New Zealand thermette is a better design, fire ring on the bottom, cooking ring on the top so you can cook and boil water at the same time. Ok, no cap, but at least it won't explode like that one will if you forget to take the cap off.
I will look at the Thermette. Thanks for commenting
Got the original Kelly stove right..best😊
Thanks for commenting
I do like the side handles and the cap, but at $189.95 vs $99.95 for the 6L Trekker or
$112.95 for the 1.2L, Scout. I would stick with the Kelley.
Fair enough. I like my KK but some people prefer not to buy Chinese made products.Thanks for commenting
I have the base camp Kelly which i like, but do like the tri-leg fire pot stand on this one. The folding side handle is nice, but it could still be a knuckle burner. Would take getting used to, but not hard. The Kelly bail handle and chain on the other hand can be used two-handed which allows you to hold the kettle with the bail on the side but its tricky. Kelly could fix that so easy with a little redesign, and there are lots of ways they could approach it. Just don't pickup the Kelly off that fire with the bail handle and chimney swinging under your hand. No No No. You will never do again.
I had no issue using the handles on this kettle, even with winter gloves on. Thanks for commenting