Over 20 million cars are estimated to be scrapped each year. Even if only 10% of them were EVs, that is 2 million EVs with on average over 5,000 battery cells. That is 10 billion battery cells disposed annually. Plus the number of EV battery cells disposed of when batteries are replaced. Most smart phones have 1 battery cell. So 5.3 billion phone would likely be 5.3 billion battery cells. Plus older phones may not have lithium ion batteries.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 people don't typically toss their car in the trash can when they are done with them. We do have recycling avenues for cars and small electronics but people are typically too lazy to properly dispose of household consumer electronics and such. It is already unusual for regular car batteries to end up in landfills. It would be very strange for EV battery packs to end up where they aren't supposed to be.
@@longggg318ti You are making a lot of assumptions about future systems, as are many of those singing the praises of EVs. The claim that EV batteries will largely be properly disposed of or recycled is based on the assumption that batteries will be returned to the manufacturer. This is a radically different system from existing systems and infrastructure.
Impressive takedown! The fire was spreading much faster than I would have thought. Also, the scale of the operation is huge. A quick system prevented a life-threatening situation for the employees. Great job!
@AIuzky I know that the video is was sped up but the fire is still very quick, it would probably be impossible to put out if you gave it 20-30 more seconds. So i stay by my claim that is was very fast, very dangerous.
@@ustyburaposwojsku7360 Video was actually sped up by 150% if you watch the clock on the bottom left. I've had farts that have spread faster. Exaggerated for views.
Hi pit fire hose operator here. This is extremely common. Happens a few times a day some days. The trick is to put the fire out before it spreads. I’m really good at aiming the hose. I got two hosey awards from the pit fire academy. But sadly. We’ve lost lives this year. Please pray for my pit fire boys. I hope your up there putting out the fires from hell.
@@StalkyCZ Yeah, the fumes from burning garbage tend to be extremely noxious. If you breathe a lot in a short period of time, it could be fatal as with most smoke. If you breathe small amounts over many years, serious health consequences will certainly result. More acutely, uncontrolled fire in small spaces is generally dangerous af because the smoke and fumes will often render people unconscious/otherwise incapacitated which will kill them either from asphyxiation or when the inferno overtakes them.
All it takes is microbial decomposition of organic waste for a fire to occur. That's often what sets off a bundle of oily rags as well. I see some comments on lithium batteries and those are certainly a problem as well, but I've seen piles of mulch smolder with nothing other than decaying wood fragments and leaves. A bit of a breeze hits it just right and you have flames. Not all forest fire are man-made either. Most are just nature doing what it does.
Minha casa só não pegou fogo porque vi uma pequena fumaça no monte de galhos secos um galho oleoso encostou em uma chapa enferrujada e entrou em combustão como um cigarro, combustão espontânea sim ocorre com muita frequência.
I worked at a newspaper in florida, they decided they wanted to recycle and started collecting papers... They learned all it takes is some humidity and composting to spontaneously combust.
My dad took me somewhere to get mulch from a massive pile, it was a cold day so the mulch pile was steaming he explained about the heat of decomp. Dared me to pull a metal rod out of the pile
I used to work at a trash-to-energy plant and pit fires happened all the time, sometimes two or three fires at the same time. People throw anything and everything away.
If you would like to learn more about the problem, you can read our VP's Annual Reported Facility Fires In Waste & Recycling Facilities at www.linkedin.com/pulse/5th-annual-reported-waste-recycling-facility-fires-ryan/
any fireman will tell you; electric fires are a huge pain in the ass and very difficult to control. The amount of water needed to extinguish an EV fire is insane. They are able to even burn submerged underwater for some time.
@@Killbayne You mean lithium battery fires. Electrical fires are a different kind of fire, just means they were started by electricity (I.E. an electrical outlet arcing on the inside and setting the wall on fire)
@@Killbayneit's called a metal fire an it's actually easy to deal with when properly equipped and you know what you are doing. A Purple K cylinder would've easily taken that before it got that big.
Here in germany fire departments extinguish a burning electro car first with water, then foam, and then transport the vehicle in company of a fire truck to a fire station and submerge the car into a big, with Water filled Container for at least 7 days. Some departments even considered building special pools with special technic to Filter out the chemical waste in the water to submerge anything in them from electrical cars to trucks and even buses.
This happens so much. My work buys partial burned excavators etc with those crane arm spidery thingies as seen here. Often from scrap dealers whom had fires caused by lithium batteries. We reclaim and resell the undamaged parts. Our own scrap dealer lost a lot of equipment due to lithium battery fires. One time even had a whole ship burning docked at his yard. Alloys like magnesium (wheels/rims) combined with lithium batteries make almost uncontrolable fires.
Been on tour to one of those waste incineration plants here in Prague where pretty much all of the city waste goes to. Those pits and cranes are absolutely MASSIVE, so to imagine the scale of that fire and what it could've turned into is making this operation quite damn impressive. Guys are pros tho, so I'm sure this is their bread and butter.
I once owned an LG mobile phone. The lithium-ion battery had swollen, and I did not use that phone much at all but I left it plugged in to the charger so it would always be charged when I did need it. With the battery being swollen up like it was I think it was only a matter of time before it had started a fire in my home. Glad I caught the problem before disaster happened.
The way that got HOT and spread FAST makes me think it was some sort of Lithium Ion battery(s). Jeeze, that could have gotten out of control sooo fast. Good work guys. (I see comments saying it took "too much water" to put out, if that was a Lithium Ion battery fire, it's impressive it was put out at all. Look up EV car fire videos.) Stay safe guys!
I suspect this was decomposition, or a lighter, or something else. If it was lithium I'd expect the water to make it worse, not put it out. Depends how much lithium is there I suppose.
The way if flowed out to spread matches organic fire. Oily rags, wet wood, etc. A battery would have just been one spot and slowly spread as stuff around it catches it. There was a lot of heat to start with. Organic fire start slowing by building heat untill poof. A battery is just a short and instant fire with little heat around it.
@MGSLurmey watch any video of firefighters extinguishing EV fires. They use copious amounts of water. How would water, something that limits available oxygen and cools the material, be a bad thing?
Notice how he immediately dumped his load when he noticed the fire. Very good reaction time. However, it would have been preferable if he hadn't dropped his load ONTO the fire...
@@Kiflaam Smothering a fire is a great idea in principle, but a) don't try smothering self-sustaining fires like battery fires, and b) don't try smothering fires with flammable materials.
@@Kiflaam The issue with smothering a lithium-ion battery fire is that the chemical reaction creates oxygen so the fire will still burn and can start collateral material on fire, which can get out of control. A battery needs to be soaked, including all of the surrounding material, to stop the chain reaction. Check out this incident. It is important to stop the fire, but most importantly it is to stop the fire from jumping to the rest of the containers that hold more batteries. th-cam.com/video/I_iJ37UEvUE/w-d-xo.html
There are more. If you would like to learn more about the problem, you can read our VP's Annual Reported Facility Fires In Waste & Recycling Facilities at www.linkedin.com/pulse/5th-annual-reported-waste-recycling-facility-fires-ryan/
When I see this video 1:18 and this moment it makes me go AHHHHHH, like when you wake up, don't want to get out of bed for a tinkle, but finally decide to go. 😁
For about 15 years, I took care of the HVAC at a battery recycling plant and within those 15 years there were three massive fires that literally melted down half the facility….
imagine 100 years from now... the apocalypse has occured and someone enters this building with a torch looking for supplies only to get decimated by water
I used to work at a trash to energy plant. I swear I can't tell the difference between mine and these. Used to go to the pit just to watch the fires burn.
I feel pretty sure that this was a lithium battery fire, considering how long it kept smouldering for while not one but two high pressure hoses were firing gallons of water at it. A cool and capable system.
The fact that all these people are working together and everyone does what they know what they need to do. I have had so many jobs where you can't get two people to work together outside of a manager holding their hands and making them work together
The second location is apparently the chute leading to a furnace where this waste is sent to be burnt anyway. If there's going to be a fire, might as well move it to where it belongs.
For all of you who want everything to be battery powered in the future and have no gas or use any petroleum products, here's what you're going to be dealing with often, and likely without any easy way of stopping it.
Pretty sure someone is behind the claw. As for the jets, some are likely automatic, but manual control is allowed on some/all too for more precise firefighting.
@@fomingera65 An autonomous system is not always more accurate than a human. In some cases, yes, but in other cases, a human can use common sense and instead of hitting the high spot of the fire, they can bring it down from the edges/also stop it from spreading further by soaking the perimeter of the fire instead of the center. A robot does not have common sense. It only has instruction.
The alarms our automated but our real live human agents put the fire out correctly and avoid hitting areas that are critical to the businesses and protect collateral assets.
@@FireRover I have seen thermal cameras used for automated fire hoses before, but I reckon that the human-operated system would be a lot more reliable in a dump where dust and debris might block up a camera and mess with the fire-detection algorithm.
TH-cam: "Yeah, this guy will watch ANYTHING."
"this guy will watch hot garbage"
And here we are...
lmao
And here I am 😂
@@PuerRidcully I thought this was the GOP debate?
There are 8,256 lithium batteries in one Tesla. The future of waste management is going to be lit.
Over 20 million cars are estimated to be scrapped each year. Even if only 10% of them were EVs, that is 2 million EVs with on average over 5,000 battery cells. That is 10 billion battery cells disposed annually. Plus the number of EV battery cells disposed of when batteries are replaced.
Most smart phones have 1 battery cell. So 5.3 billion phone would likely be 5.3 billion battery cells. Plus older phones may not have lithium ion batteries.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 people don't typically toss their car in the trash can when they are done with them. We do have recycling avenues for cars and small electronics but people are typically too lazy to properly dispose of household consumer electronics and such. It is already unusual for regular car batteries to end up in landfills. It would be very strange for EV battery packs to end up where they aren't supposed to be.
@@longggg318ti You are making a lot of assumptions about future systems, as are many of those singing the praises of EVs. The claim that EV batteries will largely be properly disposed of or recycled is based on the assumption that batteries will be returned to the manufacturer. This is a radically different system from existing systems and infrastructure.
Hey you cant point that out!!!! haha @@suburbanyobbo9412
Lithium batteries are not waste, but a recyclable raw material.
Actually more common than you would think. I mean me watching nonsense at 1am, not the pit fire.
Huh, so it is 1:23am right now…
@@Trainboy1EJRWhere he is it is. Ya know it's not the same time all over the world at the same time right? There's this thing called time zones. 🤷♂😂😂
@@28russ It’s funny because we were both watching nonsense at 1am. XD
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I hate those crane games. When you do manage to pick something up, it's never what you wanted.
💯
Those games would be a lot more interesting if they included “garbage fire” as one of the items you could win!
I tried winning a pink hedgehog plushie from a crane game. The crane decided that I would instead win a fox plushie.
Its a scam anyway
LOL
Impressive takedown! The fire was spreading much faster than I would have thought. Also, the scale of the operation is huge. A quick system prevented a life-threatening situation for the employees. Great job!
Anxiety rising rapidly when fire starts to spread.
@AIuzky I know that the video is was sped up but the fire is still very quick, it would probably be impossible to put out if you gave it 20-30 more seconds. So i stay by my claim that is was very fast, very dangerous.
Thank you very much! 🙏
@@ustyburaposwojsku7360 Video was actually sped up by 150% if you watch the clock on the bottom left. I've had farts that have spread faster. Exaggerated for views.
Hopefully no one developed PTSD from this video; I will alert TH-cam staff about it.
I love this 90s first person shooter factory level
Hi pit fire hose operator here. This is extremely common. Happens a few times a day some days. The trick is to put the fire out before it spreads. I’m really good at aiming the hose. I got two hosey awards from the pit fire academy. But sadly. We’ve lost lives this year. Please pray for my pit fire boys. I hope your up there putting out the fires from hell.
How you can dieat this place ? Inhaling the smoke ?
@@StalkyCZ Yeah, the fumes from burning garbage tend to be extremely noxious. If you breathe a lot in a short period of time, it could be fatal as with most smoke. If you breathe small amounts over many years, serious health consequences will certainly result. More acutely, uncontrolled fire in small spaces is generally dangerous af because the smoke and fumes will often render people unconscious/otherwise incapacitated which will kill them either from asphyxiation or when the inferno overtakes them.
This… this feels like a joke 😂
Why the fuck are humans doing this work still??
All it takes is microbial decomposition of organic waste for a fire to occur. That's often what sets off a bundle of oily rags as well. I see some comments on lithium batteries and those are certainly a problem as well, but I've seen piles of mulch smolder with nothing other than decaying wood fragments and leaves. A bit of a breeze hits it just right and you have flames. Not all forest fire are man-made either. Most are just nature doing what it does.
Minha casa só
não pegou fogo porque vi uma pequena fumaça no monte de galhos secos um galho oleoso encostou em uma chapa enferrujada e entrou em combustão como um cigarro, combustão espontânea sim ocorre com muita frequência.
@@alexextreme3026 Usando Google Tradutor.
Sim, as pessoas sempre procuram alguém para culpar, mas às vezes não há ninguém para culpar.
I worked at a newspaper in florida, they decided they wanted to recycle and started
collecting papers...
They learned all it takes is some humidity and composting to spontaneously combust.
I remember that some birds deliberately set up nests in rotting organic matter because of the heat generated by decomposition...
My dad took me somewhere to get mulch from a massive pile, it was a cold day so the mulch pile was steaming he explained about the heat of decomp. Dared me to pull a metal rod out of the pile
I used to work at a trash-to-energy plant and pit fires happened all the time, sometimes two or three fires at the same time. People throw anything and everything away.
If you would like to learn more about the problem, you can read our VP's Annual Reported Facility Fires In Waste & Recycling Facilities at www.linkedin.com/pulse/5th-annual-reported-waste-recycling-facility-fires-ryan/
Glad to know the death star didnt go up in total flames
Oh was that Han Solo at the end? Good spot my friend
That needed way more water and took way longer than I would have expected. Good thing they are prepared.
🙏
any fireman will tell you; electric fires are a huge pain in the ass and very difficult to control. The amount of water needed to extinguish an EV fire is insane. They are able to even burn submerged underwater for some time.
@@Killbayne You mean lithium battery fires. Electrical fires are a different kind of fire, just means they were started by electricity (I.E. an electrical outlet arcing on the inside and setting the wall on fire)
@@Killbayneit's called a metal fire an it's actually easy to deal with when properly equipped and you know what you are doing. A Purple K cylinder would've easily taken that before it got that big.
Here in germany fire departments extinguish a burning electro car first with water, then foam, and then transport the vehicle in company of a fire truck to a fire station and submerge the car into a big, with Water filled Container for at least 7 days. Some departments even considered building special pools with special technic to Filter out the chemical waste in the water to submerge anything in them from electrical cars to trucks and even buses.
This happens so much. My work buys partial burned excavators etc with those crane arm spidery thingies as seen here.
Often from scrap dealers whom had fires caused by lithium batteries.
We reclaim and resell the undamaged parts.
Our own scrap dealer lost a lot of equipment due to lithium battery fires. One time even had a whole ship burning docked at his yard. Alloys like magnesium (wheels/rims) combined with lithium batteries make almost uncontrolable fires.
These fires can't be good for the environment,......................right.........................?
I told Mom the remote battery was still good for a nother week
Been on tour to one of those waste incineration plants here in Prague where pretty much all of the city waste goes to. Those pits and cranes are absolutely MASSIVE, so to imagine the scale of that fire and what it could've turned into is making this operation quite damn impressive. Guys are pros tho, so I'm sure this is their bread and butter.
I once owned an LG mobile phone. The lithium-ion battery had swollen, and I did not use that phone much at all but I left it plugged in to the charger so it would always be charged when I did need it. With the battery being swollen up like it was I think it was only a matter of time before it had started a fire in my home. Glad I caught the problem before disaster happened.
Good thing he didn't run out of quarters halfway through.
😂
I didn't realize how large the pit was until the guys started walking around, absolutely massive lol.
Quick response. Love to see it.
Nicely done 🔥
🙏
Welcome to your dystopian sci-fi future
Did not realize how enormous that fire was until the second angle where you can see the tiny little people outside
Nice work!
Love those two guys with small tiny water hoses trying to do nothing afterwards when it's all finished lol :D
The Rover went in their even tho the water was watering what a hero
It took me too long to realize how big that claw was. I didn’t see its size until it put the trash in a separate container.
It looks like Terex grapple to me. Can anyone confirm the manufacturer?
The way that got HOT and spread FAST makes me think it was some sort of Lithium Ion battery(s). Jeeze, that could have gotten out of control sooo fast. Good work guys. (I see comments saying it took "too much water" to put out, if that was a Lithium Ion battery fire, it's impressive it was put out at all. Look up EV car fire videos.) Stay safe guys!
Thank you 🙏
I suspect this was decomposition, or a lighter, or something else. If it was lithium I'd expect the water to make it worse, not put it out. Depends how much lithium is there I suppose.
The way if flowed out to spread matches organic fire. Oily rags, wet wood, etc. A battery would have just been one spot and slowly spread as stuff around it catches it. There was a lot of heat to start with. Organic fire start slowing by building heat untill poof. A battery is just a short and instant fire with little heat around it.
I mean its a fire in a pit of highly flammable materials....has nothing to do with it being a battery. Its going to spread fast regardless.
@MGSLurmey watch any video of firefighters extinguishing EV fires. They use copious amounts of water. How would water, something that limits available oxygen and cools the material, be a bad thing?
Notice how he immediately dumped his load when he noticed the fire. Very good reaction time. However, it would have been preferable if he hadn't dropped his load ONTO the fire...
isn't the point to smother it?
@@Kiflaam Smothering a fire is a great idea in principle, but a) don't try smothering self-sustaining fires like battery fires, and b) don't try smothering fires with flammable materials.
@@Kiflaam The issue with smothering a lithium-ion battery fire is that the chemical reaction creates oxygen so the fire will still burn and can start collateral material on fire, which can get out of control. A battery needs to be soaked, including all of the surrounding material, to stop the chain reaction. Check out this incident. It is important to stop the fire, but most importantly it is to stop the fire from jumping to the rest of the containers that hold more batteries. th-cam.com/video/I_iJ37UEvUE/w-d-xo.html
He had to get the burning stuff out priority ASAP. The team did a great job
How many times does this happen everyday?
This video makes me feel good for some reason.
There are more. If you would like to learn more about the problem, you can read our VP's Annual Reported Facility Fires In Waste & Recycling Facilities at www.linkedin.com/pulse/5th-annual-reported-waste-recycling-facility-fires-ryan/
I didn't appreciate the scale of this operation until I saw those guys at the end.
Even Dumpster Fires are so lit these days 🔥
🤦♂
Mass graveyard after the robot uprising. 🔥🤖🔥
I thought it would be the boy with the wheels rolling into action. Good boys, regardless.
That must have been a box of prank re-light candles.
Sheesh that could get bad real real quick
i like how the claw went "oh hell no" at 0:06 😅
When I see this video 1:18 and this moment it makes me go AHHHHHH, like when you wake up, don't want to get out of bed for a tinkle, but finally decide to go. 😁
Great work on keeping the fire contained.
Man must be a master at the claw game.
Good job
Outstanding.
Pretty Cool! TFS, GB :)
That place must smell great
I love how that operator on the balcony is not even looking where the fire is according to the machines. He’s seen some things in that facility.
Looks like the original Star Wars scene when they’re trapped in the trash pit
The Claw! 👽
Where can you observe waste incineration plants live?
It’s like that one room in RE4
Imagine the smell of the dudes working there 😂
Apart from the human intervention, are the claw and hoses operated automatically or by humans?
MAN THE CANNONS LAAAAADS!
Some mystery item just starts a fire
Interesting video.
For about 15 years, I took care of the HVAC at a battery recycling plant and within those 15 years there were three massive fires that literally melted down half the facility….
Lithium Battery Pack ?
Probably from a vape
Its the evolved form of a literal dumpster fire
That's either a super stressful or super fun job.
Hunka Hunka burnin love!
Fire 🔥
Watching technology work is much more fun that watching Mr Bust
This would make a really cool videogame.
I know that all these places look the same but is this at Wheelabrator in Bridgeport?
Wall-e done goofed up
This is the last soviet era claw machine in a binnegans just south of Sevastopol.
Forbidden claw machine prize..
imagine 100 years from now... the apocalypse has occured and someone enters this building with a torch looking for supplies only to get decimated by water
I used to work at a trash to energy plant. I swear I can't tell the difference between mine and these. Used to go to the pit just to watch the fires burn.
Just me here watching a dumpster fire on a random Friday morning......
This is beyond cool.
I feel pretty sure that this was a lithium battery fire, considering how long it kept smouldering for while not one but two high pressure hoses were firing gallons of water at it.
A cool and capable system.
I was wondering how such a fire could start. then I remember lithium batteries.
physical damage to lithium batteries can cause fire. 🔋🔥
Very cool.
this looks line it would be the one for new york, located in newark?
THE FIRE'S SHOOTING AT US!!!!!
The fact that all these people are working together and everyone does what they know what they need to do. I have had so many jobs where you can't get two people to work together outside of a manager holding their hands and making them work together
The American way would have been to leave the building and call the fire department
Cause that's what we do is cause problems and have someone else fix it for us
this reminded me of toy story 3
What started it? Batteries?
Cool to see how some waste is sorted and disposed of I guess..I don't know why I watched this
"THE CLAAAAAW"
Riddle me this Batman; why did the claw grab the flaming mass and dump it elsewhere creating two fires?
The second location is apparently the chute leading to a furnace where this waste is sent to be burnt anyway. If there's going to be a fire, might as well move it to where it belongs.
@@Tangent360 "I'll just put this over here with the rest of the fire" in action, I suppose
@@Tangent360 that makes sense, thanks mate
@@aprilkolwey4779😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣@@aprilkolwey4779
Here we are.
I want a fire rover
Put that at my door and connect Ring doorbell to it. Don't know who's at the door at 11Am you hose them off! 🤣
@@tjjones-xj7kq Turns the Jehova's Witness into Jehova's Wetness for sure.
ask for one for xmas. Santa's makes them in his shop at the north pole! 🎅 🎄
"THE CLAW!"
THE CLAWWWWWW
The "Claw".
Wonder how crazy the cancer is working in a place like that.
I see time runs faster on their Planet...
The droids did a really good job here
Quarantine it.
He saved lives
I didnt realize the size of the pit until i saw the people walking around
Somehow this reminded me of the Matrix. Must've been that machine with the claws.
Not all heroes wear capes..
Some are giant garbage claws
Good Rover.
For all of you who want everything to be battery powered in the future and have no gas or use any petroleum products, here's what you're going to be dealing with often, and likely without any easy way of stopping it.
"The Claaaaaawww!"
The algorithm knows me too well.
Giant claw machine. Win a prize!
The way the fire spread when the main body was grabbed (0:22) suggests a liquid rather than a battery
or burning plastic
@@justotalkalottashit8392I think even plastics wouldn't fluit that much and in that very fast speed.
I remember this from resident evil lol
Great that it's all automated, the system identifies the hot spot and the jets and claw are immediately at work.
Pretty sure someone is behind the claw. As for the jets, some are likely automatic, but manual control is allowed on some/all too for more precise firefighting.
@@MonkeNeuronActivatedmore precise than heat sensors and computer calculations? how?
@@fomingera65
An autonomous system is not always more accurate than a human. In some cases, yes, but in other cases, a human can use common sense and instead of hitting the high spot of the fire, they can bring it down from the edges/also stop it from spreading further by soaking the perimeter of the fire instead of the center.
A robot does not have common sense. It only has instruction.
The alarms our automated but our real live human agents put the fire out correctly and avoid hitting areas that are critical to the businesses and protect collateral assets.
@@FireRover I have seen thermal cameras used for automated fire hoses before, but I reckon that the human-operated system would be a lot more reliable in a dump where dust and debris might block up a camera and mess with the fire-detection algorithm.
This is what it looks like when the crane game can actually pick things up.