So great to see a new video with Tobey. Welcome back! I love that boat and would love to sail her in the Bahamas and BVI'S. I watched all the Distant Shores videos and learned so much from Paul. Well done Tobey!
7:48 Thanks so much for giving us an eye level perspective. 99% of all boat reviews are done with the camera at chest height max. This makes it so hard to get a proper impression of a boats architechture and feel. Especially so with a deck saloon or raised saloon variant. Please keep that up! Thanks for a great video mate! Also, mighty nice ship this one. Probably a bit of a pain to maintain, but owning such a vessel without the funds to let other people do the maintenance is no fun anyways :)
Great review! This is a very nice boat indeed for shorthand cruising and accessing the shallows without much concern. May be too cramped for a liveaboard but that's my opinion. It's full of light and airy for sure
I think modern ideas of living spaces need to adapt to realities of life at sea. This boat provides amazing surfaces and layout options while remaining easy to clean and providing good ventilation at anchor. Think about the airflow in a sultry anchorage, and you start to appreciate the large hatches over sleeping areas. In the marina, the spaces are well lit & elegant, yet provide voluminous storage for cruisers, a solid davit system, and safe/energy conserving watchkeeping stations. Cruising sailboats have evolved greatly since Slocum, yet need to accomplish the same goals within many of the same physical parameters. This is an amazing compromise, when you remember the shallow water capabilities of this surprisingly stiff yacht that shows very respectable polars. Wow.
What a great review Toby, thank you so much. I can't help feeling there are better designed deck saloon boats out there, I am thinking particularly of the Sirius range which use the space under the saloon to great effect with a mid cabin or work room. This one feels old fashioned with very difficult mechanical access and dozens of steps everywhere.
Great review. It does look like a manageable solution to short-handing a large boat. As others have said though, my stress levels were rising seeing how maintenance is performed on it. Probably best the Distant Shores crew don't have to sail them long-term.
I wonder how much better the systems layout is on a fixed keel version? Love Discovery's but this seems like a pain to maintain. Those cabins are ridiculous though, great review Toby! Love the honesty and attention to detail like the door frame width.
If there is one thing I’ve learned in life in general: the least moving parts that work perfectly, the more chances of things working perfectly without issues!!!
If I had the choice I would opt for a centreboard over a swing keel. You don't alter the centre of gravity when you raise a board unlike a swing keel. Much less rolling about at anchor. At nearly a million £ the point is somewhat academic, good review as always.
Really nice layout, the centerboard is accentual for New England and Virgin Island cruising. This is a top pick.I love the Amel 50 but the only keel offering kills the deal. 7 foot draft is much too deep for my home town and hurricane hole in the Virgin Unfortunately this boat would require Houdini too manage it. It's too difficult too manage.
Nice Vid, but the technology is scattered all over the boat, difficult to access and at 48 feet there is not even an engine room. And at € 950,748.30 I would visit Ellös. ;)
I'll probably never have such boat, but anyway. What I don't like about Discovery interiors is that the whole floor is in steps. Perfect way to break a leg.
Superb review Mr. Hodges. I can tell how much you love a boat just from your body language! Sitting at that chart table it was ‘this is my spot all day long!’. Great to be able to keep watch all snug and warm below right there. Both cabins are fantastic. Galley perfect. Cabin dining with a view and able to lift the keel and go anywhere? It seems like the perfect monohull. Great review thanks!
One thing I did wonder - do discovery still apply the (I think - I'm remembering this from reading it somewhere ages ago) 10-15 rule to their designs - that you can access everything in 10 seconds and remove it in 15 minutes? I remember being impressed that the designers of the Discovery 55 had incoproated that thinking.
As a mechanic.....I would not want to work on this .... Systems are to spread out and access is terrible. This could be the reason Distant shores has moved on after only 3yrs of owning one
@@ericfleming5522 They sold the boat already and our now building an Aluminum boat with a drop down keel. sort of an exploration boat. Also you generally sell the boat (If you can afford to do so) in the first 5 yrs, the devaluation is at the minimum at that point. The sailing channel La Vagabond has also sold there boat after 4 yrs of ownership....because of the devaluation....In the case of distant shores I can only assume its both, makes the most sense....
This is a boat that only "check writers" could appreciate. Anyone who has to maintain this scattered mess of systems would run screaming into the night!
Ideal boat to shine on a yacht show or marina. However, couldn't imagine repairing it in the middle of the ocean. Not so practical for remote cruising.
Wow, very good build quality. Amazing how they made it work. In case of a breakdown you really have to now where what is - but that should be the case on any yacht. ;)
A fabulous boat but dreadful machinery access - not really for long term cruisers as maintenance will be a nightmare. I owned a manual lift keel Feeling 39 for many years and the sight of the hydraulics and spectra on this boat fills me with dread. Resolving a keel position issue in a seaway will not be easy. I wonder if they have protection from the keel driving through the coach roof in the event of 180 degree inversion? Still a cracking boat for coastal waters though.
@@jamesdean8951 not really its 2130kg in a 3990kg mounting - it's not going anywhere. If you're rolled over you've probably got more things to worry about but actually not that likely as you've got all that ballast, plus if you're running and hit by a breaking wave from the stern (as in a conventional broaching situation) you'll have it up and so just slide sideways instead.
what a boat. only thing: the toilets look wedged in in a way that would make them hard to clean behind them. I don't think even a hand and a sponge would fit...but a truly spectacular boat.
Thanks Christopher - and for the suggestions. Here's the review of the Garcia 52 (didn't shoot video on that but will try to for the 60!) www.yachtingworld.com/reviews/boat-tests/garcia-exploration-52-jimmy-cornell
...It is beautiful, but I can see why those two opted for a Garcia....with respect for a beautiful seaworthy craft, but in a blue water breakdown sense, I would want a very small athletic mechanic and very small athletic electrician on board with me...am I being unfair?
At first I thought it was kind of strange to review a boat anyone who's seen Distant Shores would already know very well. But really, what were you going to say when they asked if you wanted to spend a day and an evening on this boat--no?
Hey Toby. Nice review, as always. Horses for courses. So not surprisingly, alot of people dont get it, or only want a 'traditional' layout. Thats OK. Southerly (now Discovery) have an almost unique design point. So thats not for everyone. Most people here didnt realis or appreciate the benefits of a) aft cockpit not centre, BUT with a full aft cabin b) raised saloon (personally I dont like the feeling of being buried in the bottom of an Oyster or Contest), c) raised nav with full viz for indoor/weather/night nav, and d) hey - its only 48ft, less than a million, and stuffed with options - GenSet, Air, Water etc. I think people here are comparing with an Oyster 56 or a Discovery 55 or similar. Yes, if you want to go right round the globe, and be a full time liveaboard, this yacht i NOT aimed at you!. Yes, the access is limited, but with that budget an owner is going to get someone else to do the major service and engine work. The fuel filter(s) and bleeding would be my only concern, one will be bound to pick up some rubbish fuel somewhere. I would have preferred more on the performance. Same or worse than other cruising under50fters? Southerly claimed significant stiffness with the low and heavy keelbox, but I would like to have known wether you were seeing or expecting a better average than 8 or 9kts or more. PS. I did see this when it came out, but off to have a proper look at the (rare) Southerly 47 down at Berthon on Saturday!!
So long as you are plodding along at a reasonable rate I think it's fast enough to cross an ocean before you die of old age or boredom. google "hull speed" maths will give you a good idea. ;)
A boat for roughly a million - and what kind of maintenance would one have to do? For 2 million you can have a helicopter from any coastguard flying in the specialist from discovery / southerly (what now) who knows where to find the fault in all this dreadful hidden technic potholes ... well at least there is a proper chart tyable - and a square table with sharp edges and no holding trim around it ... thank you Toby always for ALL of your reports which indeed allows all of us to have an idea, which boat NOT to buy ... for this price ...
Shoal draft yacht that we could put up to the beach ?? Would have been nice to see this. The interior cabin saloon layout should have never left the designers desk. Truly a child’s puzzle re-created inside a boats hull. A thousand piece puzzle. Why do you people try so many times to recreate a perfectly good wheel. I can’t imagine there’s more than a half dozen fools in the world who would buy this thing !!!!!!
I absolutely hate the interior, so compartmentalized. No real room to actually live. The should have just raised all of the salon to open it up, and used the space under the floorboards as extra storage..
Another lot of advertising bullshit, starting with "escaping the crowd" nonsense. The advertising is followed by more advertising comment" that "every square inch of space has been used". Technically we are not told anything of value for assessing the boat. And by the way beaching a boat that size is more risk than it is worth. Maurice Griffiths' twin keel hulls are the most practical for grounding, but like everything to do with sailing boats you need to know your seamanship ( if I am allowed to use the the word sensored by the LGBTQ etc). The advertising bloke is talking nonsense.
In case you guys don't know, Toby is one of the oldest TH-camrs. And he still pays so much attention to the channel.👍
Thanks Coconut - and yes, I'm feeling pretty old these days!
You're doing a great job. Your videos are still the same and never get boring.
With hair salty grey like the seas!
I was going to type “…and the man doesn’t get old”
Brown nose lol
Toby is the main reason I keep following Yachting World. Great review!
Cool, thanks!
So great to see a new video with Tobey. Welcome back! I love that boat and would love to sail her in the Bahamas and BVI'S. I watched all the Distant Shores videos and learned so much from Paul. Well done Tobey!
Thanks Bert! And agreed, a good choice for the Bahamas as shown by Distant Shores
Excellent review, making me realise that I don't want a Discovery 48 for so many reasons.
Same here.
7:48 Thanks so much for giving us an eye level perspective. 99% of all boat reviews are done with the camera at chest height max. This makes it so hard to get a proper impression of a boats architechture and feel. Especially so with a deck saloon or raised saloon variant. Please keep that up! Thanks for a great video mate! Also, mighty nice ship this one. Probably a bit of a pain to maintain, but owning such a vessel without the funds to let other people do the maintenance is no fun anyways :)
Great review! This is a very nice boat indeed for shorthand cruising and accessing the shallows without much concern. May be too cramped for a liveaboard but that's my opinion. It's full of light and airy for sure
I think modern ideas of living spaces need to adapt to realities of life at sea. This boat provides amazing surfaces and layout options while remaining easy to clean and providing good ventilation at anchor. Think about the airflow in a sultry anchorage, and you start to appreciate the large hatches over sleeping areas. In the marina, the spaces are well lit & elegant, yet provide voluminous storage for cruisers, a solid davit system, and safe/energy conserving watchkeeping stations.
Cruising sailboats have evolved greatly since Slocum, yet need to accomplish the same goals within many of the same physical parameters. This is an amazing compromise, when you remember the shallow water capabilities of this surprisingly stiff yacht that shows very respectable polars.
Wow.
What a great review Toby, thank you so much. I can't help feeling there are better designed deck saloon boats out there, I am thinking particularly of the Sirius range which use the space under the saloon to great effect with a mid cabin or work room. This one feels old fashioned with very difficult mechanical access and dozens of steps everywhere.
Great review. It does look like a manageable solution to short-handing a large boat. As others have said though, my stress levels were rising seeing how maintenance is performed on it. Probably best the Distant Shores crew don't have to sail them long-term.
I wonder how much better the systems layout is on a fixed keel version? Love Discovery's but this seems like a pain to maintain. Those cabins are ridiculous though, great review Toby! Love the honesty and attention to detail like the door frame width.
what a nice interior - miss that on many newly presented yachts
If there is one thing I’ve learned in life in general: the least moving parts that work perfectly, the more chances of things working perfectly without issues!!!
K.I.S.S.🙂👍🏻
If I had the choice I would opt for a centreboard over a swing keel. You don't alter the centre of gravity when you raise a board unlike a swing keel. Much less rolling about at anchor. At nearly a million £ the point is somewhat academic, good review as always.
Brilliant honesty review, solid job
Thank you Paul
Really nice layout, the centerboard is accentual for New England and Virgin Island cruising. This is a top pick.I love the Amel 50 but the only keel offering kills the deal. 7 foot draft is much too deep for my home town and hurricane hole in the Virgin Unfortunately this boat would require Houdini too manage it. It's too difficult too manage.
I wish you had an equally detailed review of Azuree 46!
Nice Vid, but the technology is scattered all over the boat, difficult to access and at 48 feet there is not even an engine room. And at € 950,748.30 I would visit Ellös. ;)
Maintenance looks like a nightmare.
Great to have a proper walk round again.
Excellent review! Thanks for that! Would be great if you also had a detailed review of Euphoria 54...
Agreed, should be more detailed. Unfortunately there are no new models planned by Euphoria / Azuree.
I'll probably never have such boat, but anyway. What I don't like about Discovery interiors is that the whole floor is in steps. Perfect way to break a leg.
Superb review Mr. Hodges. I can tell how much you love a boat just from your body language! Sitting at that chart table it was ‘this is my spot all day long!’. Great to be able to keep watch all snug and warm below right there. Both cabins are fantastic. Galley perfect. Cabin dining with a view and able to lift the keel and go anywhere? It seems like the perfect monohull. Great review thanks!
Thanks James!
Beautiful yacht but a nightmare to service yikes👍👍
One thing I did wonder - do discovery still apply the (I think - I'm remembering this from reading it somewhere ages ago) 10-15 rule to their designs - that you can access everything in 10 seconds and remove it in 15 minutes? I remember being impressed that the designers of the Discovery 55 had incoproated that thinking.
The vertical hull windows are incorrect.
As a mechanic.....I would not want to work on this .... Systems are to spread out and access is terrible. This could be the reason Distant shores has moved on after only 3yrs of owning one
Yeah I'd wondered why they decided to move on so swiftly, too--this is starting to make things click.
@@ericfleming5522 They sold the boat already and our now building an Aluminum boat with a drop down keel. sort of an exploration boat. Also you generally sell the boat (If you can afford to do so) in the first 5 yrs, the devaluation is at the minimum at that point. The sailing channel La Vagabond has also sold there boat after 4 yrs of ownership....because of the devaluation....In the case of distant shores I can only assume its both, makes the most sense....
Thank you for this fine review!
This is a boat that only "check writers" could appreciate. Anyone who has to maintain this scattered mess of systems would run screaming into the night!
IDK, it is a quality boat with a "go anywhere nice" design.
Engine access looked OK.
This boat has potential!
I'd be the man maintenancing that nightmare, and I'm already screaming!😱
LMAO, some of us maintain much more complex machines every day of our lives.
Ideal boat to shine on a yacht show or marina. However, couldn't imagine repairing it in the middle of the ocean. Not so practical for remote cruising.
Wow, very good build quality. Amazing how they made it work.
In case of a breakdown you really have to now where what is - but that should be the case on any yacht. ;)
Is Toby trying not to cry?
Love the set up but hell id hate to serves gear on this
A fabulous boat but dreadful machinery access - not really for long term cruisers as maintenance will be a nightmare.
I owned a manual lift keel Feeling 39 for many years and the sight of the hydraulics and spectra on this boat fills me with dread. Resolving a keel position issue in a seaway will not be easy.
I wonder if they have protection from the keel driving through the coach roof in the event of 180 degree inversion? Still a cracking boat for coastal waters though.
It's a swing keel not a lifting keel, it will just fold up.
@@tomriley5790 It is, as is the F39 - think of it as a 750 kg axe swinging at the coach roof
@@jamesdean8951 not really its 2130kg in a 3990kg mounting - it's not going anywhere. If you're rolled over you've probably got more things to worry about but actually not that likely as you've got all that ballast, plus if you're running and hit by a breaking wave from the stern (as in a conventional broaching situation) you'll have it up and so just slide sideways instead.
Great review as usual!
Good grief!😱 What an absolute nightmare to service and maintain. Explain the wisdom of putting that particular equipment in the bilge?
I wonder how many times you would need to hook your belt on that door handle going into the aft cabin, before you changed it.
That was the first thing I had to change when I bought one!
Who wear a belt on a boat
@@mabamabam Every pirate I've ever seen.
Fantastic video. Great review Toby !
what a boat. only thing: the toilets look wedged in in a way that would make them hard to clean behind them. I don't think even a hand and a sponge would fit...but a truly spectacular boat.
And how much would it cost? Did I miss the price mentioned? Price is always a parameter in comparisons... value received for money.
Price is in the description above!
@@yachtingworld Thank you! My mistake!
Best yacht reviews on TH-cam. Well done.
It would be more accurate to call it an advertising channel rather than a review.
I was wondering if there's an option to put the VHF radio behind a panel.. under the seat... to make it even less usable.
Electrics in the bilge!!!!!! The only electrics below the sole should be the bilge pump.
Same thought here.
If I had my life to live over again, I'd learn to sail and buy my own ocean-going yacht.
Yeah. Wondering if I’m having the start of a mid life, or if it’s too late to go live the dream…🤷♂️
Waay to many steps inside even for a deck saloon
Truely enjoy your reviews. Any chance of you reviewing the Garcia 52 and then the new 60? Thanks
Thanks Christopher - and for the suggestions. Here's the review of the Garcia 52 (didn't shoot video on that but will try to for the 60!) www.yachtingworld.com/reviews/boat-tests/garcia-exploration-52-jimmy-cornell
Good looking boat
Disovery and Southerly is the same thing?
Yes, companies with a chain of bankruptcies under different names.
OK boat, they need a better website designer... Still think the Sirius DS is a better choice.
I can't wait to see what Torsten could do with a 45'+ LOA
Too much limber dancing going on with this interior 😏
Man I don't know... For a 48' boat it looks cramped
Yeah the aft cabin looked pretty cramped with the low headroom and narrow doorway.
...It is beautiful, but I can see why those two opted for a Garcia....with respect for a beautiful seaworthy craft, but in a blue water breakdown sense, I would want a very small athletic mechanic and very small athletic electrician on board with me...am I being unfair?
Is it a 48s because it is 48' feet long? Seems like they fit a lot in 48'.
I was about to point out that Southerly have been making swing keels for a long while before I remembered Discovery merged with them a bit bac
Yeah, that's precisely it. To be eye level to the sea.
Beautiful
The lines are referring strongly to Oyster Design 😃
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At first I thought it was kind of strange to review a boat anyone who's seen Distant Shores would already know very well. But really, what were you going to say when they asked if you wanted to spend a day and an evening on this boat--no?
Beautiful sailboat, very cozy.
Did they mean to make it look like an oyster?
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Hey Toby. Nice review, as always.
Horses for courses. So not surprisingly, alot of people dont get it, or only want a 'traditional' layout. Thats OK. Southerly (now Discovery) have an almost unique design point. So thats not for everyone.
Most people here didnt realis or appreciate the benefits of
a) aft cockpit not centre, BUT with a full aft cabin
b) raised saloon (personally I dont like the feeling of being buried in the bottom of an Oyster or Contest),
c) raised nav with full viz for indoor/weather/night nav,
and d) hey - its only 48ft, less than a million, and stuffed with options - GenSet, Air, Water etc.
I think people here are comparing with an Oyster 56 or a Discovery 55 or similar. Yes, if you want to go right round the globe, and be a full time liveaboard, this yacht i NOT aimed at you!.
Yes, the access is limited, but with that budget an owner is going to get someone else to do the major service and engine work.
The fuel filter(s) and bleeding would be my only concern, one will be bound to pick up some rubbish fuel somewhere.
I would have preferred more on the performance. Same or worse than other cruising under50fters?
Southerly claimed significant stiffness with the low and heavy keelbox, but I would like to have known wether you were seeing or expecting a better average than 8 or 9kts or more.
PS.
I did see this when it came out, but off to have a proper look at the (rare) Southerly 47 down at Berthon on Saturday!!
Nice walk though!
Anybody knows the top speed of this boat ? :)
So long as you are plodding along at a reasonable rate I think it's fast enough to cross an ocean before you die of old age or boredom. google "hull speed" maths will give you a good idea. ;)
A boat for roughly a million - and what kind of maintenance would one have to do? For 2 million you can have a helicopter from any coastguard flying in the specialist from discovery / southerly (what now) who knows where to find the fault in all this dreadful hidden technic potholes ... well at least there is a proper chart tyable - and a square table with sharp edges and no holding trim around it ... thank you Toby always for ALL of your reports which indeed allows all of us to have an idea, which boat NOT to buy ... for this price ...
this format is fucking bonkers, we need more.
Sound levels are a tad bit off tho
The best monohaul I ever seen. 😳👍🏽
Go anywhere!? Too bad you can't leave the planet!
Shoal draft yacht that we could put up to the beach ?? Would have been nice to see this. The interior cabin saloon layout should have never left the designers desk. Truly a child’s puzzle re-created inside a boats hull. A thousand piece puzzle. Why do you people try so many times to recreate a perfectly good wheel. I can’t imagine there’s more than a half dozen fools in the world who would buy this thing !!!!!!
Try removing the engine…
I absolutely hate the interior, so compartmentalized. No real room to actually live. The should have just raised all of the salon to open it up, and used the space under the floorboards as extra storage..
Wauquiez Pilot Saloon 48 , Amel 50 , .....
Garcia explo 45
@Aus L plastic fantastic 😜
Shut down the horrible music/noise, and the draft is only 18 feet ?
Why to buy monohull at this price when you can have catamaran.
£825,000.00 = $1,154,117.25. Cool…all I need the the remain $1,150,000.00 and it’s all mine. Wonder if they’ll accept Monopoly money?
Another lot of advertising bullshit, starting with "escaping the crowd" nonsense. The advertising is followed by more advertising comment" that "every square inch of space has been used". Technically we are not told anything of value for assessing the boat. And by the way beaching a boat that size is more risk than it is worth. Maurice Griffiths' twin keel hulls are the most practical for grounding, but like everything to do with sailing boats you need to know your seamanship ( if I am allowed to use the the word sensored by the LGBTQ etc). The advertising bloke is talking nonsense.
British product, wonky
What an error.
get a cat, half the price, twice the comfort, twice the speed.... :-)
Half the price 🤔... not sure where?
@@philippechevereau9818 try ur local dealer of FP, Lagoon, Leopard, .....
And what a lot of senseless comments.