Rivera TBR-1SL - THE heaviest amp '87-'92! (SKID ROW, SAIGON KICK)
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- Deep diving into the Rivera TBR-1SL Stereo rack head.
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Cool video, thank you. I still have that TBR we used but it might get sold this Friday
Thanks Michael! Congrats on a legendary career! You've earned some time off! :)
the tbr was then sold? by chance you still have and eventually for sale the ada mp1?
Nice to see you here Mr Wagener! May I dare to ask, what you'd use instead of the Rivera for that sound? Some Randall or Egnater tube module?
Michael Wagener! Is there any way you can post some isolated guitar tracks from Slave and The Lizard so I can tone match with my Axe FX?
Been waiting for this! EDIT: Yep it definitely has that Slave/Lizard thing going on. I know what i'm listening to this weekend.
Leon Todd Now it’s your turn to feature a Rivera on your channel!
@@ToneScavenger a boy can dream!
@@LeonTodd When I think of the cash I don't spend on outboard and the time I don't spend integrating every new thing or tone and dialing it in because it's all already in the one big box...it's kind of a deal. They're around and actually less costly in the US than abroad by half sometimes. I've had my eye on a few for a while, along with some other choice things - I mean, doesn't everyone want to build their own physical tone library if audio performance/production is something they enjoy? Thanks for your content too, I've also learned a lot from your channel and nobody's making you do it in the way you do. Quality production that isn't something you have to slog through to find what you are trying to learn or experience doesn't simply appear out of thin air; it's a LOT of time consuming tasks to do properly. For whatever reasons, people don't seem to mention that in their content/creator praise/banter/chat but it's the HARDEST part of the role for most people (if you love doing post edit, etc, man you are gonna be busier than an accountant who enjoys reading tables of numbers as leisure) and no matter what portal I'm consuming from at the time it seems there's not enough mention of the work involved.
Yeah, I know, word salad. But I put things where I can when I think they get seen because everyone's flooded who has any sort of success On The Internet and they can delete my little bit of content if they don't enjoy it. :-)
Hello from Portland Oregon, thanks for seeing us. We see you.
Be well. Visit when you can for good food, drink, and musical campfire conversations. Oh those are the best. :-D
Leon Todd If we lived closer, I would let you borrow my Rivera M100 (close enough) for sure! But I’m pretty sure we live in different continents :(
Fancy seeing you here Leon 😂😂
Modern gear is great, but I'm so happy we get channels like taking really deep looks into the old gems of high gain. Pure gold.
Saigon Kick right off the bat? One more reason I love this channel.
Yes, I come from the Peppermint Tribe where people come and then they die.
To hail me. To hail me.
With tomahawks of candy cane we split their heads and eat the brains.
Hail me. Oh, hail me
Really dug that album!
I grew up with SK and remember Jason rocking those amps in the warehouse before the the first album. He had two of them wired in stereo on each side of Phil. Then there was Tom's Trace Elliot. I still remember their sound. People have no idea. That's for bringing them up.
This one hits me right where I live. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Nobody has demo’d an amp on TH-cam by playing The Threat and Peppermint Tribe. Loved hearing that bit of In A Darkened Room, too. Some killer tones and playing on those records.
Bloated and fuzzy just how I remember my Knucklehead Reverb 100. Hated that amp. But Michael Nielsen, you make is sound superb my man, great playing as always. I sit by my phone eagerly waiting for your video notifications, you always have great stuff. Keep at it!
I had a Knuckle Tre and it was a chugging beast with rich harmonic overtones. Wish I still had it.
@@FatCitySaint Same, plus a Knucklehead Reverb 100. Great amps, and paired beautifully with my Diezel VH4.
Tube screamer didn’t tame the fuzz and trim the flab?
The song “ One step closer” from the water album has got to be one of the heaviest guitar sounds that I can remember from the time.
I bought a knucklehead thinking it was going to be the answer to achieving that type of rhythm sound… Nope. At least not for me. Too many knobs and too much tweaking involved so I went back to my SLO.
Thank you for another great video!
That is one of my all time favorite guitar tones and also a fantastic song. I listen to it at least once a week.
By seeing your video, I probably got who made the Jackson amps back in the end of the 80’s. I got a Reference 50, its design looks near the Rivera amps, and the sound, especially the artficial harmonies, sounds really close.
The Lizard is criminally underrated. Great album.
word!
Agreed. I think that it honestly was a perfect bridge between 80's rock and 90's, and was way overlooked when it was new.
Their first 4 albums are all criminally underrated.
I think I can remember Reb Beach, Bruce Kulick, George Lynch and Steve Lukather using those Rivera amps
I am head over heels in love with the look of it. Looks like it should have a soft light behind that logo.
Awesome! You finally featured the Rivera TBR-1SL! Great content and killer playing and tones... as usual!
The Lizard had some killer guitar tones fo sho.
What is fo sho?
@@centaurus5676 Slang for "for sure".
My favorite Saigon Kick album was their first in 1991. Love the opening solo for What You Say.
11:44 holy shit that is Slave to the Grind tone NAILED! WTF! Awesome! Such an underrated album, fucking gunge BS! >
Yep, that (moderate) hi-pass/mid-push of the SD-1 really helps focus the Rivera. Tons of fun!!
I was in the studio, when Michael Wagner walked in with a few songs that he just used with this amp!!! He thru a gold CD in & it blew us all away!!! Obviously everyone wanted to start scrapping tracks to re-record them-LOL-I’m glad you thru the actual Head in there as well...
Good Times👍🏼
Great demo Michael. When I bought my Friedman Smallbox I thought that nothing could ever touch it or even come close but then I acquired my Rivera Rake and, while I’m not going to say it’s better, it completely blew my mind. Less mid bite than the Smallbox but killer smooth distortion. It’s such a versatile amp too with the great clean side and all of the frequency options. Fun fact, when I was looking to buy my first 4x12 cabinet back in the mid 90s I answered an ad in the Washington Post and drove out to Baltimore to pick it up. When I got there it had Asian characters and the name Saigon Kick spray painted on it and the guy told me that it belonged to the guitarist and was being sold off for some reason. I don’t have that cab anymore but what a small world.
Rivera Jay Graydon model? Interesting👍. I had a Rivera Fandango head with the “Jake the Rake” mod. Very nicely built amp. (I remember it “Smelled Good, lol) like candy or something?) My big regret was using V-30 speakers
instead of the G12-T75’s that Paul recommended😔........I really missed out on what that amp had to offer. But it was 2003? .........and V-30’s were king......and no one could convince me otherwise🙄..........
I bought it after the limited run had sold out but my Sweetwater rep put me in touch with Paul and he built me another 😎. I didn’t opt for the matching cab because I couldn’t afford it at the time and so wound up using my 4x12 loaded with UK made V30s 😂 I loved it though and still do however I’ve scaled back a bit and am going through a Two Rock 1X12 open back lately. Hey one more thing that you may appreciate, Paul was such a great guy to work with, he even included NOS Siemens EL34s at no additional cost, I love those so much that I bought another matched pair through Mesa, those are still in the box but ready to go.
I love the sound of this amp, so massive and those harmonics are amazing. I'd sell my soul for the gain channel as a rack preamp
This was great! Thanks Michael! I was an early TBR-1SL adopter back in the late 80's.....Killer clean tones, but I didn't jive with the gain tones at the time, and I have always wanted to get another one to have another go at it.......Killer concept with the 4 rack-spaces, stereo power and the P-Comp, pre-loop, etc.....It was ahead of it's time for sure! :)
A lot of folks used these back in the day. Great amps. I’ll also recommend the S120 Rivera. It’s a stereo amp. Run it through two 4x12’s and your kicking butt. I’ve been using one since the early 90’s and it has never broke down or had any problems ever and that’s playing almost every weekend.
shhhhh I'm chasing a couple of those twins right now man lol those things are fucking unruly. Don't fall down the Bogner hole bro lol they made a lot of preamps in a lot of stuff that's pretty accessible, cash-wise, and they all have pre-out. If the rest of the amp sucks, I'll just rip the Bogner preamp out and eurorack the fucker because im a goddamned maniac
Just point people at The Rake and watch 'em run like moth/flame.
Leave the killer of the kills for the folks on the deforestation by metal plan.
-The Vanguard of Deep Woods Metal
Roscoe p Coltrane this is a stereo amp too, not sure if he mentions that I haven’t gotten all the way through the video. I had one for 25 years it had eight 6550 power tubes four per side. I recently sold it but what I should’ve done is sold those tubes by themselves they were General Electric and then sold The amplifier. The M 60 and M100 are a mono version of this and it had the same preamp as the TBR.
Tim White I like 6550’s except the price. I did the same thing when I sold my Marshall. Should have took the Siemens tubes out.
Roscoe p Coltrane yeah, Siemens were great. Well now I know the difference and I have a nice little stash of ANOS tubes, hopefully you do too.
Hell Yeah! Was going to buy one of those a few years ago. Didn't happen. Guess I have to be happy with the Diezel Herbert. 😂 Great playing, dude.
Man, this channel is great! I´ve known XYZ and now Saigon Kick here. It'd be nice some recommended records from that era 80's early 90's together with the vintage magazines shows. Thank you Mr. Nielsen.
My friend had that amp with the 6550 power section, 160 watts a side. He had it in its own rack case and it was a boat anchor. It sounded amazing though.
Gee, I even saw Saigon Kick on their first European tour. What an amazing band.
FYI.. my friend Mike Soldano use to call Paul for amp building advice. Love my Rivera amps for all the single coil guitars I own! I'd love it if you do a take two on this one with some guitars with P-90's!! I'm pretty sure you'll be mind blown.
Fastest BHP purchase yet, 20 seconds into the video! Thx for all your hard work Michael!
I like it! Dude! Rivera should do a Synergy module version of this great pre! I dug the clean too! Maybe he already has and I just hopefully don’t know about it! And Dude! PS! I got tons of drive pedals but no SD1! Think I’m mos-def gotta gotta get one! Alright, from Oakland I bid you Oakloha!
Rivera amps are amazing. They still have rack mount amps. I have the rack mount Venus Recording with built in Rockcrusher. The Venus Recording has a 6 position midrange voicing switch plus the regular midrange knob. It gets that same metal sound but does a ton more also. So many features on it. It also has the brilliant clean sounds but they’re on channel 1 now and channel 2 does everything from low gain blues to super high gain metal. The Venus Recording is only 25 watts though switchable to 7 watts class A. 6V6 power tubes and 5 12ax7 preamp tubes.
Awesome tone out of that bro! Years ago I had a Rivera K tre that I loved, great sounding amp as well
You get my thumbs up for beginning the video with a spot on version of Bieler’s “What You Say”.
it's amazing you have one of these amps. this is one badass amp
So cool video 👍😎🤘
Thanks for the tone talk 2 episode from way you in
I've never seen that rack before... Great tone !! Killer stuff as always.
Thanks for the Saigon Kick!!!! Monster tones from that amp. I dig it. Never be able to afford it, but I dig. It. {Goes back to playing Boss Katana]}
Sounds pretty similar to the Rivera Bonehead I owned, it always took 20-30 minutes to dial in the gain channels but the clean channel was immediately amazing.
I've owned two Rivera Knuckleheads, and currently have a Rivera 412. I miss those amps, and need to get another one.
Man! I was just listening to “The Lizard” album this week and thinking “damn those tones are massive!” Great, underrated band!
Great history lesson, demonstration, & playing 👍. Thank you once again for quality interesting content.
Rivera’s gain structure definitely has it’s own personality ...........
I am glad I found your channel. It's fun to see all of the hardware I saw in the guitar mags growing up in the 80s and 90s that I couldn't afford, and still can't probably lol. Plus I think its helping me learn how to get better sounds out of my own amp. Anyways thanks for the content.
Kemper profiles and IR's available here: bighairyprofiles.com/item/bhp-riv-sl-profile-pack
Was gonna ask for a profile...but here it is! You kick ass
@@dvomvas1 lol profile? This thing is gonna be GREAT next to my Roland JC200 head. I heart unicorn amps :-)
What blows my mind is you get all that by jacking straight in.
Them: THAT AMP IS ESPENSIVE
Me: *laughing because that's all I bought*
I used to play a (Rivera) Fender Showman solid state which had so much switches, push/pull and eq and the settings were so vulnerable that I built a flightcase for it. Changed the 210 setup to 112 EV. I think that the TBR sounds great but lacks switch ability and effect loops. Great recording amp though with a new fan.
Michael, your playing and this rack head are awesome, is it possible for me to send you a Ik Multimedia Tonex capture device for capturing this amp? I can give you the Tonex capture device as a present if you can do so, also I´m interested in capturing the Bob Bradshaw CAE 3 - SE Preamp. Hope to hearing from you, thanks.
This and the venus preamp are 2 of the greatest amps ever. And you're right they they're somewhat like the recto's but different enough.
I didn't know these were that old already lol. I Guess time flies by these days
I used a 1M version for awhile it seemed a little less compressed then this version, used a boost to send it into high gain territory. Great amp!
Why am I not surprised this sound absolutely killer?
Beautiful sounding amp!!
Always thumbs up Mike!.....man that thing sounds brutal amazing....holy cow!
MAN! I am so glad you finally did this
As if I needed another reason to regret trading my M60 many years ago. Great video.
similar to my m100 head. nice to hear it again.
mine has the fender/marshall side on a pull switch. too many switches and options but what a sound.
tthanks for reminding me that mine is gathering dust. I might pull it out one day
Loved the 2nd Skid Row tone much more than the first.
I'll tell you what with the chorus and Reverb that was really starting to sound nice, you really can't beat that type osf tone in Stereo.. Do the Kemper profiles have the Reverb and Chorus included? I'm asking because I don't have a Kemper :(
The only thing heavier than the tone is it’s weight. Seriously these were some back breakers, gotta feel for all those roadies.
You always make these things sound so good. SD1 all the way!
Question.
The drive kinda reminds me a bit of the Boogie amps like you said. How does it sound when you back off the volume on the guitar? Does it clean up much? The Boogie when I do this just sounds boxy to me.
If I'm not mistaken, Ted (ugh) Nugent also used one of these when they first came out.
btw isn't Alexander Dumble another West Coast amp guy?
My question in you Coffe-video was just answered hehehe. Great amp, love this sound.
Another great piece of rack gear! I hadn't even heard of this. Although no surprise, we don't get too many unique american "boutique" stuff here.
Man, all your videos sound killer!
Michael you are simply awesome. where do you find ideas ideas to show us these incredible gears? I had an Fender amp that was designed by Paul if I am not wrong. That was one tone machine.
Looks like I am ordering yet another BHP profile pack!
Did Jim Kelly build amps in SoCal🤔Great Content
awesome saigon kick solos
Wow... What unique sound!! I LIKE this!!
That's so funny. I made the same mistake yrs ago. Thought the Rivera I bought would sound like THAT Rivera but instead I had exactly what you described. Great Fender/early Boogie sound but not the Slave to the Grind sound I was expecting.
Michael, I have the TBR-1 and It's a kick ass. My preamp rack is almost identical to yours. Kasha Rockmod 1, CAE 3+, Boogie Studio Preamp, Rivera TBR-1, Pearce G1, Boogie Triaxis, THD Univalve and Soldano X88.....It seems collecting preamp does good for your soul. Add a Dytronics Tri-Stereo Chorus, TC 1210, H3000 and TC 2290.....= HEAVEN
Dont forget the h3000 ;)
I loved the Kasha Rockmod I, paired with the Kasha Poweramp, It killed. So much better than the Kasha Rockmod II, had that one as well.
What you said about the harmonics squeaking out is how I describe the Groove Tubes Soul-O 75. It sounds very similar to this Rivera. You need to check out the Groove Tubes Trio. All tube rack preamp.
Thanks! been wanting to that Rivera for a while
Mike.....you seem to hit all the gear i look at at about the same time!.......truly dude.. Yea this thing sounds thick and yet heavy and clear!! Also I was wondering if you've ever tried the Rivera Venus Recording pre that Paul developed? I believe he is one of a handful of extremely talented people when it comes to innovative and USEFUL creations in his gear. That Venus just has everything I could ever think of incorporating in one single piece of pro gear and that ain't even a little bit exaggerating. Just know again that you would be the guy I would check when it comes to demos bro. Thx and God Bless
I had one. The bottom always seemed flubby no matter what I did. I see yours is no different. Went back to my 50 watt JCM 800 and I was happy again. Lots of gain on tap with these and that was what I missed.
Best amp i've heard!
The SD1 & high output pickups is how I combat the flubby low end on my Marshall DSL. If I play straight to the amp with my PAF style pickups, it's fart city at high gain settings. Heck, even with the SD1 & hot pickups, it's still not as chunky as I'd like but that killer Marshall tone is well worth the compromise.
Which Marshall DSL do you have? I have a JCM2000 DSL50 and it has a beautiful, tight low end. Maybe that is because I am running it into a 1936 cabinet with a Vintage 30 and G12H-75 Creamback \m/
@@GearBoxTy Hi Ty. I have a DSL40c combo. And I'm pretty sure the speaker isn't my problem because I own two great 4x12 cabs and it sounds just as flubby thru those when set to high gain Any advice is appreciated though.
@@t-boog2173 Boost it, try a tube screamer turn the gain off and crank the output. That should tighten it up.
@@t-boog2173 oh and side note the SD1 is a pretty loose boomy pickup. Try a fast track 1 or 2
@@TL-angzarr Hi TL. Sory, I meant a Boss SD1 overdrive not a Super Dist pickup. My pickups(for high gain stuff) are Gibson Dirty Fingers. So yeah, the SD1 cuts the lows a bit like a Tube Screamer(which I also have). And the hot pickups not only help tighten the lows but their higher output combined with the SD1 output allows me to back off the amp gain a little. It's kinda like the Zakk Wylde approach... Hot pickups + SD1 + Marshall. That's prob why he uses 300 watt spkrs. To keep the low end as tight as possible.
sounds great. would love one of these to go with my knucklehead tre.
incredible sound
Best freakin' channel on the internet. Period!
I recognized many sounds from the suiss band Chinas album Sign In The Sky. I think late 80s. 👍 Oh wait, it had been 1990.
Awesome tone!
I have always enjoyed Rivera amps. They are definitely for the guy who loves to tweak knobs
Never owned or played through any Rivera stuff. Guess I need to get off my old ass & check some out. Honestly the M series sounded like my thing more than this is. Good stuff Michael!
Done With It just in case you are referring to the M 100 or M 60 by Rivera they basically the same amplifier as the TBR the preamp’s are the same it’s just a mono power section. I owned the TBR and the M60.
Paul Rivera Junior told me they are the same preamps.
Maybe some of the difference you’re hearing is some coloration from the Power Station attenuator and the IR’s.
These amps could take a wide variety of different power tubes as well mine was 160 W per side with GE 6550s eight in total. The M60 ran EL34’s so there’s a lot of variables anyway…
Oh my God , what a f***ing tone. I think I grew an extra testicle when you kicked in the SD1.
Always fun and educational (not knowing some of these pieces of gear) but also dangerous because it creates gear lust for stuff I didn't even know about! Lol...always great videos
Oh ! That's pretty interesting to see. The fan of my TBR is not so noisy as your ! :o Maybe they fixed this problem later ? I don't know..
But it's nice to see a video of this monter ;)
I read that Jason would use the boss Sd-1 in front of the the tbr to goose up the input of the amp a lil .
Nice demo!
Back in the day, I lusted after a TBR, but it was unobtainium financially. The TBR weighs 50 pounds by itself, then you have to add in the weight of the rack, and a cab (two if you wanted stereo). Impractical for a guy like me (no road crew), but I wanted it.
The TBR-1 was the first thing I ever bought on credit. I toured with it in the late 80's and did not have a roadie. It was worth it. I would love to have another go at one today.
Bought an s120 as a teen but admittedly never learned how to dial it in properly. It's still stored at my dad's house so I might have to pull it out next time I'm near there.
Tell you the truth I was really digging the clean channel.
Michael James I had one of these for 25 years and just remember that Paul Rivera went to work at Fender and redesigned a whole bunch of their amplifiers in the late 70s so he knows his fender tones and the clean sounds on this and almost all Rivera amplifiers are very authentic they sound just like a Fender but there’s more control because of all the knobs.
Hey Mike...does that Friedman have the Triple-D pickups or the Classic+/Classic combination? I always wondered...thanks, man!!
great Chanel....you should do a video on Jason Beiler.....he shreds!
I have a TBR1M. Wondered what it might be worth
Yeah man badass!! Saigon kick rules!!
So much of the chunk on Slave to the grind comes from Rachel Bolan’s mahoosive bass tone.
Sounds like there is a hint of Mick Mars guitar tone. What I Know he uses combination of Rivera, Soldano and Marshall amps. I'd like see you cover that tone.
do you sell any cab IR's that are just straight up wav/aiff file types so we can use them in other loaders? cheers, always dig your sound in your vids.
Any suggestion for my Rivera clubster 45 I bought a used one but the speaker seems cheap. What would be the best speaker to put in there Michael? I believe it’s voicing is blackface clean channel and a Marshall dirty sound. Rivera builds stuff like a brick sh-t house.
I have a cluster royale and I run it with Greenback (Made by Panama) variants and it is absolutely amazing. I'd check out WGS speakers as well
I named my dog 'Rivera' cause he goes woof! woof!
Great to see and hear those "vintage" preamps 😂
Choptones makes a rig capture library of the TBR-1SL for Overloud TH-U. It sounds great and not a bad alternative if you can't get your hands on the real deal. I just uploaded a track using it.
Nice! I made Kemper Profiles as well bighairyprofiles.com/products/bhp-riv-sl-rivera-tbr-1sl
Aaaaaaaaaaaaah you start that lick with an upstroke. That's been bothering me for a few decades. Thanks man :)
Oh... which one?
@@BigHairyGuitars 0:08 always used inside picking and never really succeeded.
COOOOL... did not know it thanks