Push Don’t Pull Mechanic Stabbed in the Eye! 2012 Toyota Yaris 1.5 Drum Brake Job PT2
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Very professional rear brake shoe replacement tutorial / complete go-to classroom guide with step by step user friendly directions.
THIS...has been a very good video!
Chinesium... Love to see how bad they are!!!
For safety always wear safety glasses. When working vehicles.
Not tooo long. Wanna see the chineeesium car
love to se the chinesium. wat about the tpms light on the dash ? sorry for mistakes in text . greetings from brazil.
I remember working on those evil drum brakes when I was like 16-17 years old I am 65 now, learned how to cuss real good. Springs zipping through air, crappy tools, crusty shot hardware, bloody knuckles. Did not know back then you could get new hardware kits. Huge fun!
Ohhhh Yeeaaaahh !! Big round of applause for Rainman Ray getting shop floor soaked.
I would love a full on inspection of the pure chinesium car
Whoever owned this car really took great care of it. It looks amazing for an 11 year old car. Even the steering wheel didn’t show any wear.
Bass Akwards... Classic. Truly. Keep on rocking it Ray! You NEVER fail to entertain us.
I have the special tool that allows you to slip the springs into place. It was painful watching that. LOL My father used to swap out drum brakes so fast you couldn't see his movements. In a competition one time at an auto show he changed each side of a car in under two minutes. When he did drum brakes it always appeared that he just tossed the parts on the car. LOL It was pretty impressive to watch and it was cool for a kid to see all the other men in awe of my father's ability. He wasn't even the worker bee in those days, he was the manager of a large and popular shop. (He stopped doing that job in about 1975.)
I recall the adjusters only engaging in reverse.
I have a screwdriver handle with cup on end to push and turn caliper springs. Think it’s made by Leslie
The adjusters do activate when you reverse. You can get them close enough adjusting with screwdriver as Ray showed and then apply brakes while backing up to tighten them a bit more
YEA I HAVE ALL THOSE TOOLS, USTA WORK FOR BRAKE CHECK
Yep, I still have (and use) my brake spring pliers. Probably 40 years old but still works. My older Civic and YJ Jeep have rear drums.
Watching you is like been back at college learning to repair my own car many many years ago love watching you work bring back good memories thank you ray.
Great content Ray. But you forgot one key point. On the adjuster, you for got to pull the end off, clean it and add a dab of grease so it doesn't freeze up and not self adjust property. Just a rust belt tip.
Always interesting, informative, and fun. Love these videos. Yes, looking at the Chinese car would be interesting.
Ray your ass backward approach to the real rear drum brakes was very entertainin and a refresher course of how much a joy to repair.
The video brings back memories. There was time when all you had was drum brakes. The self adjustors were leading technology. Good seeing it being done.
I was Shop Foreman for Brake Check in the early 70's. Very few cars didn't have rear drum brakes.
Thanks, Ray. I invariably watch your videos on a large screen TV and don’t see comments and links, etc. unless I go to my tablet afterwards - which is how I occasionally comment. It’s good that you think of your viewers who are in a similar situation. As a really old guy, I will never do a brake job - or any other job on a car - but I really enjoy being entertained by you. You manage to make the mundane interesting.
What TV?
The TH-cam app for Roku show the suggestion for part 2 (and has for years). Can also read and like comments.
Just can't post comments. Which IMAX fine since the UI would suck for that (passwords are bad enough).
Though the Roku app that works as a remote give a usable keyboard (works great for searched too).
You did a good job explaining the drum job simple and easy to understand.
Thank you for your precious time Ray
Be safe
"Don't stab yourself in the face"
Good tip, Ray!
Drum Brakes are lighter than Disk Brakes?? So I have heard, butt they are such a pain in the Donkey!
@@michaellleb2843 they're lighter and handle not being used much better than caliper brakes do. Which is why they're starting to become popular again on some EVs since a lot of EVs brake 99% of the time with the electric motor regen instead of using the brakes, the discs end up becoming pretty rusty, also lighter weight = more range
Ray…Ray..Ray …….I hated those springs until I started using a loop of chord to pull them off !
Use a 4” loop of nylon chord , then insert a blunt tool to pull them off and steer the hook with your long nose pliers.
Or cranked long nose pliers. No more sudden events!
Needle nosed Vise Grips work awesome for what you are attempting Ray.
I’m screaming/crying “needle nose vice grip pliers for the retainer springs!!!” 🥴
Need to lube the surface of the backing plate where the shoes sit to avoid squeak when the brakes are applied.
I always put a small dab of brake lube on the backing plate where the shoes sit.
It has been a VERY long time since I did brakes. Back then most cars has rear drum, and some even front. So it was common to do them, and I did have the tools for those springs. The ONLY thing I did that you didn't was lube the "spreader" pin and where the shoes contact the backing plates. Probably inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. It was great listening & watching your drum brake tutorial. If anyone is thinking of doing them they have what's needed. Great pair of videos.
On the Chinese vehicle, I would be interested in seeing. I have seen a few YT videos of a mini (very mini) truck from China, but no details. Go for it, Ray!
Yes, do the Chinese minicar. I was doing drum brakes back when Ray was a gleam in his grandfather's eyes. Did many a drum brake job in the days before self adjusters. I still have the brake adjuster tool somewhere. Had to replace many broken adjuster cables. Yes I thought about the anti-seize lube on the shoe pads and the adjuster cap without the threads. Also the pins on the adjuster pieces.
It’s not inconsequential, you do it right or don’t do it. Lubing contact points and adjusters means in 50k or 60k the adjusters are frozen and either can’t be backed off to get drum off or freeze up and not allow the brakes to adjust and customer has a low pedal. No excuse for not doing it the right way.
Sure, let’s see the Chinese crap they build.
Ray actually using brake clean For What It's meant for😂
I prefer small vicegrips on the springs, but to each they're own right . Still a great job
I always used side cutters to grip them and also never took the parking brake lever off the cable, just removed clip and put new shoe on then tightened the clip. Some of them were a bitch to get back on the cable without loosening the cable adjusters up.
They used to rebuild wheel cylinders like they rebuild calipers. The only calipers people rebuild these days are the high performance calipers.
The only way to get a rebuild kit anymore is to order them online. It's definitely become very difficult to fix your own parts and now you end up relying on someone else's reman work of some other person's failed part. It's almost like they make money off you having to fix the same things repeatedly....
They used to repair TVs, household electronics. They used to have TV repair in home. Then came China and made repairs too expensive. Imo.
People who rebuild wheel cylinder are paid twenty dollars a hour, whereas people who build new wheel cylinder get paid ten dollars a hour in China.
I used to rebuild them all the time in the day. Rebuild kit were easy to get.
Super cheap repair, rebuilt them on my IROC years ago when I was still in H.S.
I hate drum brakes. Just completed two 1995 K1500 Silverados. I decided I won’t do another. Great message on safety. You might have saved someone’s eyes or digits.
Use caution comparing to the "other side". There's always the chance the last guy messed that up for you. Always check service data if possible.
yes you did when you were working for another shop some time ago
Yes, please.
Love to see those quirky little Chinese things.
Citroen are selling a tiny, 4 seater, that I’m certain is not made in France. Plastic body and I couldn’t find any evidence of an engine, so I suspect it may be an EV, too. I’d love to know if it’s the same as your “Chinesium” car.
13:40 with digital cameras on every phone around, take several pictures before you pull the brakes apart. But keep in mind, the last guy may have put things together wrongly. Back in my day, drum brakes was all we had. That and a stick to rub against the wheel.
One at a time, but taking a few photos as well, applies to many diy jobs
You're the best part of my day, so it takes a bit more, so be it
Having worked as a VW mechanic on 50s and 60s Beetles with drum brakes this is VERY familiar to me, however VWs did not have automatic adjusters.
Yes you have Ray you have done drum brakes before
Great content Ray.. Owned a 2007 Yaris for 8 years & covered 90.000 miles here in the UK. Brought back happy maintenance memories, so easy to work on. An ultra reliable machine indeed. Mine had the 1.4 diesel TD (1ND-TV) 5 speed manual shift. 60 MPG + easily achieved & never missed a beat.. Changed it for a Toyota Auris estate 2 years ago with the very same engine and just like the Yaris, super easy maintenance and still enjoy trouble free motoring.....Happy days......
Ray, you stated you don't recall doing a drum brake video on the channel. I remember one. It was a full-size GM truck with leaky rear axle seals. It already had 'axle-saver' bearings installed. You replaced both rear axles, bearings and seals, along with the brake shoes as they were saturated with 90W gear oil nastiness. 90W gear oil has to be the worst smelling substance on earth.
Hey Ray. I would like to see this "Chinesium Car" you asked about, but in my opinion, no car has yet to be worse than a Soviet-era Yugo, which was made out of wood. The thing was so bad, engineering and construction-wise, that you were lucky if you could keep the thing running. The car was that bad and unreliable. 😅
Agreed if you’re talking about cars sold in US. But the Trabant (East Germany) is generally considered legendarily awful.
@@rickvandusen9271 : The Yugo was never sold in the US. Why would the American government ever allow imports of autos that was from its enemy during the Cold War?
@@isaiahwelch8066 The US did import Yugo. Very short period, probably related to the terrible quality. I'm not sure of the year(s). Maybe 1986/87
@@isaiahwelch8066They were imported by and sold in the US for a short period of time.
I stand corrected. Evidently, the Yugo was sold from 1987 to 1992, with just under 120,000 units sold over 5 years.
Yes on the Chineesium!
Everyone has a phone so we can take a picture of how all those parts go together on the drum brakes.
Yep, would love to see the China Car!
Ray; I have been where you are, put your family and children first, the difficulties I faced are nothing to what you face, hell we had good parts. You the Boss, you Also the Dad and Husband Unit.
Love to see a chinesium car report, warts n all.
I’ve always done it the same way Ray but after the first assembly I always press the brake pedal and work the hand brake a few times to centralise the shoes etc and check the free movement. We all do it slightly differently. Great pair of videos!!
I thought a dab of grease on the contact point between the backing plate and the brake shoe was usually recommended.
Yep, working the handbrake operates the self-adjust ratchet, just a bit of pre-adjustment saves a few strokes of the lever.
I always enjoy the long videos and all the information in them.The fact that you don't stop talking makes the videos fun, informative, and entertaining. Not an easy task. Anyone who has ever done any public speaking will attest to that. Keep up the great work Ray.
I use a pair of needle nose ViceGrip pliers. They don’t slip if you get it tight
Yes, I'd love to see the Chinese car.
I had a client, who wanted to start a dealership for Chinese Trucks. So he purchased one to use as a demo. Within a year it ended up in the wrecking yard, because the engine and transmission broke down.
Ray ; At some point in the future if you chose to you'd make an excellent Automotive Shop teacher ( if auto shop still exists in any schools ) You're great at to the point , easy to understand explanations .
thinking the same thing
Going back to the black & white days rebuilding drum brakes, loved the memories.
Would love to see a U.S. Chinesium car, if only to compare with U.K. models. It’s a shame your truck is off the road you could have popped it in the back. 😂
Ray. What an excellent and useful pair of videoes both for novices and for old timers like me as a reminder. Perfect for us here in UK as many of us are still running vehicles with drum brakes at the rear. Very well done and thank you.
I watch on my TV and your scheme worked fine. I finished part one. Went back to recommended videos and there was part 2 waiting for me.
I was just wondering how many brake shoe jobs I'd done before Ray was even born! 🤣🤣🤣 Love to watch him attempt cable brakes.....😅😅😅😅 Thinking about it.... The luxury of pre lined replacement shoes! No copper brass rivet's to chisel off and replace.... 😅😅😅
In the UK our 2008 Yaris 1.33 manual is the most dependable car we have ever had, i started driving in 1966 by the way. Just ensure you do regular oil changes, wheel bearings and clutch can be an issue but 100% reliable.
@@JRattheranchI remember going to buy "bonded" shoes for my old 1936 Hillman back in 1960s but the supplier could only supply me with rivetted linings and rivets. As a student I had few tools but did have access to a vice and a hammer and a centre punch. With a selection of ground down nails I managed first time and once bedded in they worked as good as cable operated Bendix brakes ever could.
Between part 1 and part 2, a good primer on doing your own in-lot pre-purchase inspection, and a nice looking pirate car!
Still forgot to lube the friction pads between the backing plate and the brake shoes contact points. No lube on the star wheel adjusters as well... Bad for vehicles in the rust belt if they use the parking brake and it seize up
I used to take a picture after i removed the drum before i took it apart for my reference.
I swear you've done drum brakes before . . . I remember that caution about doing one side at a time.
The little disc is a "spring retainer". 😉Chinese Car - Yes
Yes...a look is warranted..we should check it out. Thanks.
I seem to remember you disassembling a drum brake to diag something. I think. But I think this is the first ever Dr brake job.
Norm Abram, Safety Glasses king
My 2004 Ezgo golfcart has this similar setup, just no hydraulics.
thanks ray for posting part 2..... and yes to the Chinese video.
Don't forget the rear windshield wiper
Very good on the rear brake shoe replacement 👍 I would have put anti-seeze on the 6 raised spots on the backing plates , the moving pay of the adjuster & the emergency brake arm that touches the back of the secondary shoe 🚲
Yes. I was looking at a couple of them. They have a bit of rust on the backing plate. I guess that's the contact point. I haven't done drum brakes in a few decades. I was glad to see four wheel disc brakes become so common. Working with those springs is a pain.
I was thinking of those creaky grease points also.
Yep a proper brake job would include lube on contact points and on the adjuster and parking brake pin. But most techs never do this and think they are doing it correctly when they are in fact not doing it right.
I have always lubed the threads on the adjusters too@@CodycoWeb
Great video
love your videos
Hydraulic Press guy showed how dangerous safety squinting is.
Ray as a UK mechanic 2 things, never fill the washer bottle before you test the washers if so only put a cupful in. In the UK it takes 3 days to dry the bay up. and please use grease in the drums, You did do a drum job on a Honda Civic and it had grease from Factory and that car was built 2 miles from where I ran a workshop in the UK. Great Videos as always after an eight hour shift fixing cars I love to watch someone else suffer,,,Sorry enjoy their work! xx
What did the customer say about the tape over the TPS dash light. I may have missed it. Good Find. In the back of my mind, I’m hoping most mechanics are as thorough as you.
137th! On to the next part of the video! Sure, I’ve never seen a Chinese car before, up close and personal. Roger in Pierre South Dakota
I think another good pointer to look for when purchasing a used vehicle is to look for evidence of hidden bodywork / frame repairs,, paint overspray or wrinkles / creases under the hood and below in the sub structure
Good point but, Ray is not a body guy (unless it is making) his vehicle looking prettier) spoken from a 47 year experienced auto body and frame repair guy.
Some plastic parts also have the fabrication month/year stamped on.
@IR-nq4qv Could have posted this comment on the first part of this series of videos.
He said that referenced if it don’t look right then I most likely isn’t right. Just didn’t get super specific with proper names. Probably cause he is very down to earth and mindful and lots of people start hearing too many proper names will become confused or flustered and become disconnected
16:05 ray got me doing this while spraying the wheel sealer on my car wheels after getting the car washed XD
12A
17H7969
Brake shoe retaining spring, Austin America/MG1100
2
12B
17H7971
Cap spring retainer, Austin America/MG1100
2
12C
17H7993
Pin, shoe retaining, Austin America/MG1100
2
I was working as a stocker in a local supermarket when I was younger. You know how people are careless with knives when they get really comfortable with them. Well, this guy is breaking down some boxes, bringing them to rest on his stomach, and bringing the box cutter upwards through the cardboard. He was very adept at it too, until someone called his name, and got his attention. He lost his concentration, and that knife took that opportunity to jump out of the cardboard, and straight up this guy's throat. The supervisor walked up to him, pinched this guy's throat, said "hold this, and hold it tight". Then called an ambulance. He's the reason the orange utility knives with the rounded points on the blades and the spring loaded buttons exist.
Also, in two parts, are you not going to take off the tape over the TPMS light?
Very nice explaination on the brake drum refresh. Thank you Ray!
When I was in high school, I made a spring puller. It was cute. It was just used for doing drum brakes. I gave it to the teacher made life a lot easier just a small little J-hook with a little handle. It’s the same thing like to use for trampolines, but a little smaller.
Ralphie: I want an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! Oooohhh!
Mother: No. Shoot your eye out.
was there a reason that you didn't lubricate the metal to metal contact points of the shoes and backing plates, self adjusters etc.?
He forgot is my guess since he can't recall the last time he serviced rear drum brakes
Hey Ray, I don't remember if i commented on this, but i have 2 older Chevy p/ups my dad's old 69 that he cherished 2 mo. Before he died, and my 1st 1987 Silverado, and they both have reverse adjusting brakes our 2021 Silverado i don't know. My wife's got them her Tahoe.
I finally noticed.
The wheels are four-bolt. The hub caps have a fake 5-bolt pattern.
Sure thing on the Chinamobile..and like we always told the boss--Thx for coming in today!
TH-cam pre-recommended pt2, no struggles here. Don't the auto adjusters only work in reverse? You didn't mention.
Sure I think it would be interesting
Stupid question, whenever I have replaced my back drum brakes on my car, I have always just done the pads... not the actual outer drum. Is it really necessary as I have had no issues. My drums have been on my car now for 140000 km but on my 2nd or 3rd set of “pads”.
Great video....as usual. As a home handyman mechanic.....I'm not keen on doing drums....but I do. I will usually take some pictures for reference. I usually adjust my drums somewhat tight.....so they drag slightly on the shoes. I find that after a test drive....all the parts find their final resting place and the drums loosen up😊.
Or take a camera and take a picture of the drum brakes before disassembling it.
You could not use a worse tool than a needle nose pliers to do a drum brake job. I was screaming at you every time just before they slipped off the springs . In my apprenticeship days I too bashed my nose with a pare of pliers with my boss laughing historically at me and saying I WAS WAITING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. Then he told me to use a pare of side cutters to stretch the springs . You don’t do any damage to the springs as they are hi tensile and you don’t have to apply too much pressure. Give them a try you will be surprised 😊😊😊
I always buy stock factory toyota parts. Yes they cost more but they also last a lot longer. I wont even use an aftermarket oil filter.
Now when you work on a GM or Ford youll buy stock parts OEM stuff. But why not import cars?
My 01 celica i put 233k miles on the
Factory original frt brake pads
A tire store tried to talk me into replacing caliper rotors everything i just did a pad slap thats all it needed.
94 celica back drums 288k miles orignal sold the car with them on it
They were still good.
A damn good video Ray. Damn good.
Thanks.
-SALUTE-
YT ghosted me the 1st time, blocking my follow-up…
“Ch€ck’s in the [post] from the drum brake lobby. Good job burying your only drum brake video on the 2nd channel. ;)”
Hopefully my obfuscations make it through this time.
…but, seriously: Thanks for showing us the logic behind where and how things go so we can figure it out when we don’t have anything to reference!
I was very lucky replacing may rear handbrake assembly.
Pointed pliers slipped off the spring and went straight into my left eye.
Fortunately, I had my glasses on and the plastic lens saved my eye.
Made my blood run cold. came so close to losing an eye.
I don't use pliers now.
I immediately took a large flat screwdriver and ground slots into the blade on the side and the tip
so I can lever or push away.
Highly recommend it. Works great.
This was the best rear drum brake video ever! I have much more confidence to do my own rear drum brakes on my Silverado. Thank You Ray!
I got myself real good in the face with a pipe wrench years ago. Great words of advice Ray. Move zzz Noggin! Lol
Good advice! I cook for a living, we always try to avoid stabbing ourselves in the face.
I was trained back when drums were more common. Those 6 pads on backing plate should have a film of grease applied, they are wear pads & should have lube.
Bring on that chinesium car. This is a mechanic channel. But if it sucks put it on the off duty channel
I would love to see the Chinese car ❣️ it sounds interesting ❣️glad your back in Florida ❤
Damn skippy drum brake jobs are dangerous. I didn't stab myself in the eye BUT I did catch a tension spring up side of my nose gashing it open and the looped end caught the edge of my nasal bone chipping it. But me being me,........ I did get the job done before I got it looked at.
Ray, I enjoy all your vids, no matter how much time they run. I would like to see a vid on that Chinese car you were mentioning if you have the time to do it.. I am sure it would have a few surprises in it if you look closely!
I have to say I'm always disappointed when I hear the word Chinesium to reference poorly made parts. The ultimate decision to have the parts made offshore is made by the manufacturer, and the manufacturer are the ones who sign off on the quality.
The Chinese are capable of making quality parts, but the manufacturers want to maximize profit and sign off on the bottom of the spec to get there.
If we want higher quality we have to be willing to insist on it, and pay for it.
Please do the chinese tiny car. Appreciate the education as well as the entertainment you provide
At one time I owned a Chines 150cc scoter lasted about 5000 miles then had lots problems bad rubber tubing, bad tires made of inferour rubber, engine locked up had warenty they did fix it but I had to take it out and mail to Sandeago broke down 3 times I had to walk it home cvt belt broke the rollers wore to fast cheep all over but when it did run 150cc scooters are fun
Due to a recent experience of mine, could there be a discussion of what to do if you are yanking on things incorrectly and you pop a piston out of one side of the wheel cylinder? I was unsure of how/what to do so I just replaced it, but later learned that I can clean and reseat the pistons carefully and then bleed the cylinder. You did comment on being careful that you can pop out the pistons, so if you have a future job that you can discuss that particular situation , I, for one would be appreciative. Thanks Ray!!
I'm here for the brake fluid shots 😂 and that's affirmative on the China vehicle.
I would be interested in seeing the Chinesium car.