Thanks for the excellent, detailed review. I'm generally pleased that Panasonic continued to develop the GH line, and think the GH6 is an excellent value for some, not all, shooters. I have the GH4, GH5, S1H and EVA1. I don't mind the AF issue as much as most. What concerns me more is that all the footage I've seen thus far has been muddy and contrasty. I think I've been spoiled by my S1H, and my days of MFT may be limited to gimbal work. That said, I would recommend the GH6 highly for anyone who has an investment in MFT lenses.
How do you find working with the S1H and EVA1? Is it the perfect A/B Combo? EVA1/GH5 user here so I'm debating the S1H vs GH6 for the GH5's replacement.
M43 (micro four thirds) from Panasonic is my favorite behind the scenes camera with its optical image stabilization (OIS) zoom lens. Stabilization is stellar on my G85 and I even used it for a few production shots when too pressed for time for a tripod or gimbal setup. Great menus. Great ergonomics. Great pricing. My production camera weighs 13lbs w/ Arri Positive Lock (aka PL) lens so M43 w/OIS is super handy. Just don’t try panning w/OIS on for G85. It’s jerky. Otherwise, top notch. SLR Magic lenses if you need M43 fast glass on a budget w/sensor only stabilization. Look at G85 if G6 isn’t in your price range. M43 from Panasonic is a storytelling MACHINE! 🎬 Happy shooting!
Thanks for this amazing comprehensive review! I don't understand that so many people are stating that m43 is dead and you should just go with a full frame camera. I mean sure, in many ways it's better. But it's also ALOT more expensive if you don't already own the right glass for it. This coming from someone who owns a GH5, with speedbooster and sigma 18-35 + 50-100 lenses. For me. It's just a matter of swapping bodies and I've got a major upgrade!
if you use your camera to make money price shouldn't be a problem since it's an investment, 2200 euros for this camera is not cheap, better get a bmpcc4k and a gimbal. If the price was 1200 then maybe it would have been worth it
@@KtmDesignz The bmpcc4k is a pain in the ass to use. I've got one for sale if you want it. I'm trading it for the gh6. Smaller, easier to use, also takes photos etc.
@@cheeeeezewizzz i have it for 3 years now and i don't see the problem i will get the c70 tho because i want internal nds i was just waiting for the gh6 since I had some hopes in M4/3, having a smaller sensor meant better features but I guess that was in the past now canon and Sony caught up
@@KtmDesignz 2200 euro for a camera isnt cheap for sure. But it's a good deal compared with upgrading to a fullframe camera with a good set of lenses, that can easily go upwards of 7500 euro. I get what you're saying about it being an investment, and it just isn't worth it for my situation. "better get a bmpcc4k and a gimbal", nope I don't like the ergonomics and it doesn't have IBIS which I used all the time, also doesn't have 4:3 anamorphic mode. Also a gimbal is just terrible in terms of flexibility. I do own a gimbal but I barely use it.
I don't own any camera and I only use friends Sony A6000 from time to time. I watched so many camera reviews on TH-cam so I am familiar with some features of many cameras. But there's something so great with Panasonic camera videos. There's this combination of colors, DR and details that just produces great image, to me better than Fujifilm, Sony or Canon. This is true for almost all of the footage I saw on many channels so I think it means something. GH6 has this effect as well.
Wow, thank you for your amazing analysis! This clearly involved a huge amount of work to produce. It is the most thorough review of the GH6 yet. It helped clarify for me as a humble g9 user that the GH6 is far more camera than I personally need (well at the moment anyway). The dream M43 camera for sits between the G9 and GH6 with proper phase detection or hybrid AF implemented. As someone who is aiming for YT content level content not Netflix, I would be hoping for a set of features which does not require a fan, does not require CFExpress cards and has unlimited recording. In some ways the OM1 might be closer to the sweet spot (or the G9 despite its limitations), but I am loving the image quality I am seeing from the GH6. It seems closer to FF in respect of its clarity and colour ‘richness’ / rendering than prior Lumix M43 cameras (with maybe GH5s being an exception). So this all leads me look forward to detailed reviews comparing the OM1 and GH6. Thank you again and we’ll done!
I guess it depends what type of shoots you intend to use this camera for. I personally don't use auto focus all that often. And when I do it would just be to focus on someone's face during an interview then switch the autofocus off again once it's sharp. Though it is disappointing the autofocus isn't as good as the competition, not a deal breaker for me.
Hey everyone, this was a bit of a pain to get rendered, seriously can’t wait for Apple to release some M1 Max desktop’s so we can get an upgrade! Link to our extended latitude tests and some ISO tests are here - vimeo.com/679935881 I will be also uploading all of the port capped tests back to back in the same fashion when I am back in the office Wednesday. Will post links when uploaded, let us know what you think of the GH6 down below and thanks for watching! Jake
Love my GH5, but once I started shooting with the blackmagic p4k and working with braw in resolve, it just changed everything. My GH5 is just an expensive webcam now
Really great review. 🙂 GH6 has great DR, codecs and framerates, BGH1 has near same DR (13 stops) and excellent rolling shutter, but no screen nor IBS. But has box format. Panasonic needs to bring hybrid AF and would be the One.
The GH6 is also an improvement to the GH5 in terms of photography performance. Now that might not be so important to professional videographers, but for people who can only afford one camera and a few lenses, this is a valid point. Unfortunately, it comes with a new version of the RW2 raw photo format which is not yet widely supported by software. (Yes, by Adobe software, but if you're not a pro photographer, you might not want to spend money on Adobe subscriptions. So you're left to using Adobe's free DNG converter.) When comparing latencies, it's easiest to use a video switcher such as the Blackmagic Atem Mini Pro. Plug a mic into the switcher and use the internal mike of the camera. Turn both audio inputs on in the switcher, hit record on the switcher and use the clapperboard. Make sure to have the same distance of all mics to the clapperboard. The audio from the camera will come in later, aligned with the HDMI delay. Open the video file in Audacity to extract the audio and measure the distance between the two spikes from the clapperboard (first one being directly from the switcher's external mic, second one from the camera's mic).
Incredible review, thank you ! I always find it amazing how some engineer driven tech companies fail to realize their full potential by simply ignoring marketing requirements. The lack of trustworthy AFC will keep this wonderful camera from flying off the shelves, which is great because the price will drop quickly after the first wave of of Panny fans will have bought their copy, same as with the G9. People less in a hurry can prepare for an even better deal. I'll wait a few months, or at least I'll try :D
Yes your right the price will drop significantly after a few months and the grey importers get stock. Im a full frame shooter but the 10 25 lens and M43 stabalisation has interested me. But the Sony/Canon AF of 2022 is just to good a feature to miss out on. The AF does look useable in certain less stressful scenarios tho.
@@markshirley01 AF on GH6 seems to have similar behavior to my G9, albeit being better, it's still not reliable. And then you watch A7IV AF reviews with incredibly fast performance... DFD on GH6 is just way too slow even when it's spot on. And DFD doesn't like complex backgrounds.
@Random Thought I live in China which qualifies as East I would think. Panasonic is actually not stocked a lot, it's all Nikon, Canon for photo and Sony for video here.
@Random Thought We're not all making movies. The primary camera application is weddings in Asia. For me trying to film myself for TH-cam, I just got A7IV and my g9 kit will get sold. I enjoyed my time with g9, but Sony is frame and forget. Here in China A73 is currently all the rage for video and stills since it can be had for significantly less than the successor.
@Random Thought Japan and Korea like smaller kits because of average smaller body size. The gh6 is a heavy bulky camera though, the lens size difference barely compensates this compared to full frame. I do love the Ibis on panny so I might revisit with gh7 and pdaf. Until then 😎
Would like to see this compared to the Fujifilm XT3/XT4, especially in the dynamic range performance, maybe you could do a sub full frame camera shootout in the future.
It's a head wrecker....The streaking reminds me of my early 2000's digital cameras. So, Upgrade my GH5 kit to what? Do I even need to upgrade as I have a Ninja V and XL .64 Speedbooster? A BM P4K and G9 with new Firmware? $1200+$1000 and cash to spare...or the BM6K Pro and G9? Need photos as I have several premium MFT lenses. OM-1 and BM6K Pro? Skip photo?..... Or a GH 6 (2999€) with excellent features and well, some wait to get it finished as the GH5. System swap? Wait for the new G9 with "ok" video features.... I hate new camera releases....;)
Timestamp for "accessories overview" seems incorrect. The sensor is exciting for being dual gain, but it not being stacked and still having the same focussing chances - it doesn't seem like that much of a flagship for MFT. It's also huge and heavy, which means you can get a larger sensor camera and get a similarly sized body. Perhaps we see G10 and GX10 models later this year for stills shooters. Perhaps there is a GH6S or BG2 coming in a year or so. I won't get either of them. Having the Anamorphic features (even for stills) would be the only selling point for me.
Jack and team at CVP thank you very much for this test. Looking at your latitude test here I can see two things. The GH6 has better latitude than the GH5S mostly due to the highlights. However without pixel peeping the latitude of the GH5M2 appear to be the same I would say -4 to +3. Why is that? If that was true the benefit of DRM is less than half stop as it can't be seen visually?
The AF is just killing me. As a Lumix owner since the GH3, I was looking forward to finally having a good m4/3 AF to not lug around the S-size body. It hurts so much that the DFD doesn't seem that much better than my GH5's for critical applications. I'm honestly debating whether I'll buy this body or wait for Panasonic to get proper AF in a gh7/gh6s (hopefully not in 2027)
I think my biggest disappointment with the GH6 is the lack of All-i 422 10 bit at Open Gate. It's the one thing that would make it stand out, but without it it's an awkward camera that just sits inbetween competitors being a jack of all trades but a master of none. Let's hope firmware updates and external recordings can solve this
Man, this video was very good and extensive. Love it. But, I wouldn't compare GH6 to 6K Pro. They are completely different cameras. BM6K Pro is not very well suited for one-man handling, even with the tilting screen and all other features. GH6 is better when it comes to going alone to shoot something because it has ton of software and hardware features that can help you when filming alone. Except for the autofocus of course, but BM doesn't have autofocus too.
Thanks Ivan! I agree that the GH6 is better designed as a solo shooter run and gun camera out of the two, there are plenty of solo shooters running 6K Pro's. The 6K Pro features loads of awesome features as well that make shooting easier too, comparing cameras is difficult as they are just tools for different jobs, and one person may need on over the other. It's just great we have options! Jake
@@CVPTV Totally agree Jake. I'm shooting primarily with Sony now, but I miss shooting with LUMIX cameras because they are really fun to use and has a lot of awesome features. And one of them is actually the weather sealing. I was considering buying BM6K Pro, but I'm not sure it is weather sealed? I'm saying all that, because for my style of shooting I really need a very rugged camera.
The 10-25mm and 25-50mm pulse like hell on the GH6, and the worse is the focus is totally innacurate in AF-C video with 4K low frame rate (24/30fps). Some lenses like the 25mm f1.4 II works very well though.
@@ohdeazy1567 The only lens I have which works OK at low frame rate in 4K/C4K/5,7K is the PanaLeica 25mm f1.4 II. All my other lenses (10-25mm, 25-50mm, 25mm Pro, 45mm Pro and 100-400mm PanaLeica) have accuracy issue at 24/25 and 30fps.
Thank you for the video! I have a question 🙋♂️ What would be the best camera for photography and filmmaking at a budget of 1 to 2 thousand pounds? Thanks
GREAT review! Thanks!! As nobody could tell me so far, I have a question. In photo mode and if you use the viewfinder, the image is slightly less sharp shown in the viewfinder than (after pressing the trigger and making the photo) in playback mode right after pressing the trigger. That makes it difficult for me to manually focus without the help of focus peaking or the magnifier. This has nothing to do with the diopter. And it is only the case in still mode, not in video mode. I wonder if this is the case with all GH6 or only with mine. Have you seen this on your test or could you check that if not?
hi, love your content. i've just sold my a7c (before i've got the a6500 and a7iii) and i'm torn between the gh6 and the s5. main reason of getting out from sony ecosystem was bad ibis, didnt like the color science, 8 bit and 1080p slow mo only. what do you say between the two? i want the better image quality and ibis possible..thanks!
Hey Avi, I would say the GH6 has better IBIS than the S5 and the S5 has better image quality than the GH6. The GH6 is a more fully featured camera, it will just depends if the improved functions and smaller lens options, outweigh the image quality difference. Jake
i mean, the dynamic range of the s5 is really good. at the comparison with that guy near the color checker, s5 overexposed +4 looks really good, even better when compared to a7iv, and a lot better than gh6 i would say. also, i knew canon has less dynamic range, but i think even gh6 has better. r6 looked quite bad. so im surprised at s5 vs a7iv, s5 looks much better at +4 (i didnt pay attentive attention to all other values as comparison between cameras, but s5 is really nice). still, af is bad. s5 i think is a more well rounded camera, at least for a novice/intermediate. and i think it's considerable smaller and lighter than gh6, if i'm not mistaken... it's a good purchase (s5), but because af, i would say it's not worth buying new.
Exactly. The S5 is really the dark horse when it comes to filmmaking with mirrorless cameras. It's dynamic range is only surpassed by cinema cameras upwards of €8000
The only reason that could prevent me from buying is the HDR bracketing settings called AEB. The GH4 shot brackets of 3,5, and 7 in increments of 1 EV or smaller. It needs to have steps of at least 2 EV for real estate. Could you tell me if the GH6 has AEB 5 @ 2EV??
Great review as always. How did you find the colour science in comparison with the bmpcc 4k & 6k cams? It's advertised as 12 stops but watching Gerald Undone's review he thinks it's closer to 10 stops & 11 stops with the boost on. Shame the native ISO is so high on the boosted mode. I've loved my GH5. It's been a great workhorse for run & gun but image quality is most important now. I've waited to see what the GH6 can do before deciding on going down the Black Magic route. Do you see the image quality an upgrade on the GH5 and more specifically, an upgrade or comparable to the BM's pocket cams?
If you're mostly interested in dynamic range measurements, Gerald Undone uses the same methodology that CineD uses, and they've got dynamic range measurements for all the cameras you named in your comment. It's also worth keeping in mind that manufacturers typically report dynamic range by counting the number of patches in the test chart that are distinguishable from black, whereas Gerald and CineD count the number of patches in the test chart that exceed a certain signal to noise ratio, which will report a smaller number than the first method. Thats not to say that one of these methods is the "correct" way to measure DR, just that one is more pessimistic than the other.
Panasonic has certainly left us wildlife shooters in the lurch with the admittedly inadequate autofocus. But I heard a comment on the Lumix live stream that could make up for it. Is it true that the MFT sensor can be further cropped for extra reach?
Do you think the difference in dynamic range between the S5 and the GH6 is big enough to justify a switch to someone already invested in MFT? I have 4-5 lenses already and I like the size/cost of the MFT lenses but I shoot a decent amount of photos as well as video so looking for a true hybrid option.
Do you have a review on that Revo ring ND .I hate having o stack filters and with my polorizer is never on the right setting after trying to get the both at the right spot. How good is the polorizer on cars does it remove alot of the reflections because the one I have doesn't do much
No, you have to have a battery with some charge in the camera for it to boot. However once you’ve got a source powering via USB-C it won’t use the battery. Jake
Is there a way to still have have run/stop beeps with an external monitor plugged into HDMI? This was a problem on the GH5 that I was hoping would be fixed on the GH6, but I’m not finding a solution. Help!!
Agreed... Panasonic had the chance to make the almost perfect camera (again) and BLEW IT! Then made us wait 4 years for the GH6 to be released!! It's 2022 and STILL... DFD AF!!! WHAT???
@@CVPTV ah, probably skipped over it - was expecting it being described in more detail or have a separate chapter. From what you say it's not a particular camera problem but a general CMOS issue that many cameras experience ... yet GH6 was the only camera that you saw do this from all of the many many cameras you've tested. Got it :D
I would set your zebras or use you waveform to expose your highlights in your scene to clip and then bring them back as highlight performance isn’t as good as the cameras shadow. Jake
I recently got the gh6 and have used it a couple times so far but I'm getting static/noise in vlog, even during the day. Is this happening with anyone else? Some of the images I've seen from this thing are incredible, but this static/noise issue is driving me nuts. Some of the luts I've put on improve the images but some images are straight garbage. I knew exactly what to do with iso on my gh5 and its limits, but what's the deal here?
Same thing. I have a feeling like all TH-camrs / Filmmakers got a different GH6. I get so much noise in V-log per day that it is totally unusable. Not to mention that ISO2000 (DR Boost mode on). Someone may now say that we are stupid and that it is because of the size of the sensor, but something is wrong here.
@@DOMSONyt I did some tests today, I'll let you know how they turned out. I have a hunch it's one of my lenses which I've only used that one but I used all 3 today so we'll see.
@Love First when i wrote that, I've since realized I didn't know what I was doing or talking about and I've learned so much since. Overall, the gh6 is a solid camera and I liked it, but I only used it for 6 or 7 video projects and 1 photography project. I have since switched to Sony and now have the fx30. I'm not the best to break it all down for you on the Gh6 bc I didn't have it long. I have more fun learning about Sony and have more fun actually using the fx30. Idk if that makes sense, but I find the experience more enjoyable. It's also been much better for my workflow. Idk what you need the gh6 for, but the autofucus is not reliable, so if that's something you're gonna use, don't buy this. It would help to know what you need it for.
Your obsession with autofocus totally skewed the review beyond proportion. While you mention the good points of the camera, you clearly diminish the value of the camera on autofocus alone. Neither Sony nor Canon offer Prores internal on anything near this price point or size....you have to go x3 the price to get that. The video feature set is far, far, far beyond the ridiculously crippled camera's from Canon and Sony. The A7s3 is nearly x2 the price, has no internal prores codecs, has inferior stabilisation and is limited to 4k resolution and 1/2 the resolution pics...oh, it has good focus. You and others gave it a glowing review and very tepid review of the GH6. Ridiculous. That said your well thought out explanation of the camera is appreciated.
My main rig is the S1H and I prefer it to the A7S III. That being said, the poor autofocus forces me to also own the A7S III as a solo event shooter. Panasonic had years to listen to their customers and they chose not to. Prores internal is not that important if you use an external recorder. You can get braw out of the S1H and prores raw out of the A7S III.
there is barely any reason to get this over zcam e2 m4 if it doesn't have good af, and don't mention ibis, it's never gonna look as good as a properly rigged camera
Sorry but It hasn’t. Did you watch the reflections and autofocus performance section? I was very balanced with my thoughts on the af. Basically if you need to trust it 100% don’t buy it, and I stand by that. Otherwise you can get a cracking camera for the price. I don’t really state my opinion to much in this video tbh. You’ve failed to mention the cameras biggest competition, BlackMagic, the 6K Pro is the same price and has some big advantages over the GH6, though the GH6 has some too.
@@kilikdudley The simplicity of internal prores, without different batteries being ready, rigging, cables and the operating system of the recorder/monitor all complicating the process and increase the possibility of error.
@@CVPTV Apologies for not correctly acknowledgeing the thorough, well thought out and well produced video. However, your summary at the end overemphasised the importance of a higher level of autofocus. Your subtle implication of "if you don't need autofocus buy this, if you do need autofocus look elsewhere" WAS imbalanced. It has very good autofocus, just not up the spec of a few others. But the 5.7k prores internal, an abundance of hi spec video options, 10 bit 422 120p, Superb stabilisation, highly durable body, well thought out controls, superb data capture thru CFexpress B for around 2000 make this a far, far better proposition than the MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND CRIPPLED Sony, Red or Canon equivalent. Fair points about the BM 6kpro being a very viable alternative. I LOVE BRAW AND DAVINCI!! All that said, thank you for the many excellent video's you have provided over the years. They truly have been top notch and helpful. Looking forward to buying some gear from CVP in the near future and watching more content from your channel. Subscribed.
Appreciate the effort CVP puts in these comprehensive reviews!
Thanks for watching! Jake
Thank you for actually discussing the benefits of running a smaller sensor. Great breakdown and review.
The MOST comprehensive review thus far. Fantastic!
Thanks for watching Noah! Jake
After watching this terrific review, not only am I thinking about getting the GH6, but now you have me looking at Dutch ovens too
My favorite in-depth review channel doesn't disappoint, great job!
Thanks for watching Billy! Jake
This is the most in-depth GH6 review I have seen so far.
I should hope so! Thanks for watching. Jake
Thanks for the excellent, detailed review. I'm generally pleased that Panasonic continued to develop the GH line, and think the GH6 is an excellent value for some, not all, shooters. I have the GH4, GH5, S1H and EVA1. I don't mind the AF issue as much as most. What concerns me more is that all the footage I've seen thus far has been muddy and contrasty. I think I've been spoiled by my S1H, and my days of MFT may be limited to gimbal work. That said, I would recommend the GH6 highly for anyone who has an investment in MFT lenses.
How do you find working with the S1H and EVA1? Is it the perfect A/B Combo? EVA1/GH5 user here so I'm debating the S1H vs GH6 for the GH5's replacement.
I can't get over how great the footage looks. Very well graded.
M43 (micro four thirds) from Panasonic is my favorite behind the scenes camera with its optical image stabilization (OIS) zoom lens. Stabilization is stellar on my G85 and I even used it for a few production shots when too pressed for time for a tripod or gimbal setup. Great menus. Great ergonomics. Great pricing. My production camera weighs 13lbs w/ Arri Positive Lock (aka PL) lens so M43 w/OIS is super handy. Just don’t try panning w/OIS on for G85. It’s jerky. Otherwise, top notch. SLR Magic lenses if you need M43 fast glass on a budget w/sensor only stabilization. Look at G85 if G6 isn’t in your price range. M43 from Panasonic is a storytelling MACHINE! 🎬 Happy shooting!
I didn't know that you could play BTS songs from a camera
Good cooking skills, and thanks for a detailed review. The most comprehensive, as usual.
Thanks for watching! Jake
Thanks for this amazing comprehensive review! I don't understand that so many people are stating that m43 is dead and you should just go with a full frame camera. I mean sure, in many ways it's better. But it's also ALOT more expensive if you don't already own the right glass for it.
This coming from someone who owns a GH5, with speedbooster and sigma 18-35 + 50-100 lenses. For me. It's just a matter of swapping bodies and I've got a major upgrade!
Don't forget us suckers with a huge closet of micro loser thirds glass. We're invested too deep to switch now
if you use your camera to make money price shouldn't be a problem since it's an investment, 2200 euros for this camera is not cheap, better get a bmpcc4k and a gimbal. If the price was 1200 then maybe it would have been worth it
@@KtmDesignz The bmpcc4k is a pain in the ass to use. I've got one for sale if you want it. I'm trading it for the gh6. Smaller, easier to use, also takes photos etc.
@@cheeeeezewizzz i have it for 3 years now and i don't see the problem i will get the c70 tho because i want internal nds i was just waiting for the gh6 since I had some hopes in M4/3, having a smaller sensor meant better features but I guess that was in the past now canon and Sony caught up
@@KtmDesignz 2200 euro for a camera isnt cheap for sure. But it's a good deal compared with upgrading to a fullframe camera with a good set of lenses, that can easily go upwards of 7500 euro. I get what you're saying about it being an investment, and it just isn't worth it for my situation.
"better get a bmpcc4k and a gimbal", nope I don't like the ergonomics and it doesn't have IBIS which I used all the time, also doesn't have 4:3 anamorphic mode. Also a gimbal is just terrible in terms of flexibility. I do own a gimbal but I barely use it.
I don't own any camera and I only use friends Sony A6000 from time to time. I watched so many camera reviews on TH-cam so I am familiar with some features of many cameras. But there's something so great with Panasonic camera videos. There's this combination of colors, DR and details that just produces great image, to me better than Fujifilm, Sony or Canon. This is true for almost all of the footage I saw on many channels so I think it means something. GH6 has this effect as well.
This is an entire user manual in 53 minutes, well done!
Wow, thank you for your amazing analysis!
This clearly involved a huge amount of work to produce. It is the most thorough review of the GH6 yet.
It helped clarify for me as a humble g9 user that the GH6 is far more camera than I personally need (well at the moment anyway). The dream M43 camera for sits between the G9 and GH6 with proper phase detection or hybrid AF implemented. As someone who is aiming for YT content level content not Netflix, I would be hoping for a set of features which does not require a fan, does not require CFExpress cards and has unlimited recording. In some ways the OM1 might be closer to the sweet spot (or the G9 despite its limitations), but I am loving the image quality I am seeing from the GH6. It seems closer to FF in respect of its clarity and colour ‘richness’ / rendering than prior Lumix M43 cameras (with maybe GH5s being an exception).
So this all leads me look forward to detailed reviews comparing the OM1 and GH6.
Thank you again and we’ll done!
This is the best GH6 video on the internet. Was already subbed but now you’re a “notified of all uploads”. ❤️
50:35 I will never understand it either. In 2017 lack of reliable autofocus on the gh5 was understandable. In 2022 with the gh6 it’s a dealbreaker.
I guess it depends what type of shoots you intend to use this camera for. I personally don't use auto focus all that often. And when I do it would just be to focus on someone's face during an interview then switch the autofocus off again once it's sharp. Though it is disappointing the autofocus isn't as good as the competition, not a deal breaker for me.
You guys are amazing!! Really helped me to make a final desicion and I appreciate your dedication!!
Hey everyone, this was a bit of a pain to get rendered, seriously can’t wait for Apple to release some M1 Max desktop’s so we can get an upgrade! Link to our extended latitude tests and some ISO tests are here - vimeo.com/679935881 I will be also uploading all of the port capped tests back to back in the same fashion when I am back in the office Wednesday. Will post links when uploaded, let us know what you think of the GH6 down below and thanks for watching! Jake
useful gh6 review thanks CVP
Love my GH5, but once I started shooting with the blackmagic p4k and working with braw in resolve, it just changed everything. My GH5 is just an expensive webcam now
Really great review. 🙂
GH6 has great DR, codecs and framerates, BGH1 has near same DR (13 stops) and excellent rolling shutter, but no screen nor IBS. But has box format. Panasonic needs to bring hybrid AF and would be the One.
The GH6 is also an improvement to the GH5 in terms of photography performance. Now that might not be so important to professional videographers, but for people who can only afford one camera and a few lenses, this is a valid point. Unfortunately, it comes with a new version of the RW2 raw photo format which is not yet widely supported by software. (Yes, by Adobe software, but if you're not a pro photographer, you might not want to spend money on Adobe subscriptions. So you're left to using Adobe's free DNG converter.)
When comparing latencies, it's easiest to use a video switcher such as the Blackmagic Atem Mini Pro. Plug a mic into the switcher and use the internal mike of the camera. Turn both audio inputs on in the switcher, hit record on the switcher and use the clapperboard. Make sure to have the same distance of all mics to the clapperboard. The audio from the camera will come in later, aligned with the HDMI delay. Open the video file in Audacity to extract the audio and measure the distance between the two spikes from the clapperboard (first one being directly from the switcher's external mic, second one from the camera's mic).
Incredible review, thank you ! I always find it amazing how some engineer driven tech companies fail to realize their full potential by simply ignoring marketing requirements. The lack of trustworthy AFC will keep this wonderful camera from flying off the shelves, which is great because the price will drop quickly after the first wave of of Panny fans will have bought their copy, same as with the G9. People less in a hurry can prepare for an even better deal. I'll wait a few months, or at least I'll try :D
Yes your right the price will drop significantly after a few months and the grey importers get stock. Im a full frame shooter but the 10 25 lens and M43 stabalisation has interested me.
But the Sony/Canon AF of 2022 is just to good a feature to miss out on.
The AF does look useable in certain less stressful scenarios tho.
@@markshirley01 AF on GH6 seems to have similar behavior to my G9, albeit being better, it's still not reliable. And then you watch A7IV AF reviews with incredibly fast performance... DFD on GH6 is just way too slow even when it's spot on. And DFD doesn't like complex backgrounds.
@Random Thought I live in China which qualifies as East I would think. Panasonic is actually not stocked a lot, it's all Nikon, Canon for photo and Sony for video here.
@Random Thought We're not all making movies. The primary camera application is weddings in Asia. For me trying to film myself for TH-cam, I just got A7IV and my g9 kit will get sold. I enjoyed my time with g9, but Sony is frame and forget. Here in China A73 is currently all the rage for video and stills since it can be had for significantly less than the successor.
@Random Thought Japan and Korea like smaller kits because of average smaller body size. The gh6 is a heavy bulky camera though, the lens size difference barely compensates this compared to full frame. I do love the Ibis on panny so I might revisit with gh7 and pdaf. Until then 😎
Astonishing review. Thanks for putting all this info together! By far the best review of gh6 I watched!
Never expected I shouldn’t have watched your video hungry! Great and informative watch as always!
Would like to see this compared to the Fujifilm XT3/XT4, especially in the dynamic range performance, maybe you could do a sub full frame camera shootout in the future.
I would like that too actually!
Nothing wrong with the LUMIX GH6 Looks great. I have the G9 I love it.
The CVP one hour review I was waiting for
It's a head wrecker....The streaking reminds me of my early 2000's digital cameras.
So, Upgrade my GH5 kit to what? Do I even need to upgrade as I have a Ninja V and XL .64 Speedbooster?
A BM P4K and G9 with new Firmware? $1200+$1000 and cash to spare...or the BM6K Pro and G9? Need photos as I have several premium MFT lenses.
OM-1 and BM6K Pro? Skip photo?..... Or a GH 6 (2999€) with excellent features and well, some wait to get it finished as the GH5.
System swap? Wait for the new G9 with "ok" video features.... I hate new camera releases....;)
Great review and ragu! The Gh6 is definitely another option to consider, changing cameras is always complicated!
Great review. Also great you start with price point and compare the product with other products of the same price point
Hands down the best review. Always a terrific job!
Thanks for watching Georgi! Jake
Timestamp for "accessories overview" seems incorrect.
The sensor is exciting for being dual gain, but it not being stacked and still having the same focussing chances - it doesn't seem like that much of a flagship for MFT. It's also huge and heavy, which means you can get a larger sensor camera and get a similarly sized body. Perhaps we see G10 and GX10 models later this year for stills shooters.
Perhaps there is a GH6S or BG2 coming in a year or so. I won't get either of them. Having the Anamorphic features (even for stills) would be the only selling point for me.
That is how you review the camera. Awesome
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!!!
I’m sticking with my GH5M2 ✌🏻 Why…
Not enough upgrades for the price… GH5M2 $2100 AUD GH6 $3700 AUD
Jack and team at CVP thank you very much for this test. Looking at your latitude test here I can see two things. The GH6 has better latitude than the GH5S mostly due to the highlights. However without pixel peeping the latitude of the GH5M2 appear to be the same I would say -4 to +3. Why is that? If that was true the benefit of DRM is less than half stop as it can't be seen visually?
The GH7 is going to be a beast I can feel it that's the camera I am waiting for, or the GH7-U
Great job as usual!👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾
Thanks for the extensive tests. Would really like if Panasonic would make DRBM with 120 4k with record limit
The AF is just killing me. As a Lumix owner since the GH3, I was looking forward to finally having a good m4/3 AF to not lug around the S-size body. It hurts so much that the DFD doesn't seem that much better than my GH5's for critical applications. I'm honestly debating whether I'll buy this body or wait for Panasonic to get proper AF in a gh7/gh6s (hopefully not in 2027)
They are going the same way as Nokia refusing to use Android and seeing their market share of mobiles go from 70% to 0% IMO
Indepth review. You ain't lying.
Excellent work! Many thanks.
Thanks for watching Charlie! Jake
Brilliant review! Thanks!
Can you do a video on converting cfexpress to nvme ssds since its the same protocol that should be fine and doable and the ssds go to insane speeds.
Great reviews guys!
Best review for a camera 👏
I have been watching so many camera reviews and this is the best I have seen.
Thanks for making this nicest review
I think my biggest disappointment with the GH6 is the lack of All-i 422 10 bit at Open Gate. It's the one thing that would make it stand out, but without it it's an awkward camera that just sits inbetween competitors being a jack of all trades but a master of none. Let's hope firmware updates and external recordings can solve this
Imagine if you post the lens used, fps, aperture and ISO used on those scenes, that looks perfect.
Fabulous review. Well done.
Thanks for watching! Jake
Man, this video was very good and extensive. Love it. But, I wouldn't compare GH6 to 6K Pro. They are completely different cameras. BM6K Pro is not very well suited for one-man handling, even with the tilting screen and all other features. GH6 is better when it comes to going alone to shoot something because it has ton of software and hardware features that can help you when filming alone. Except for the autofocus of course, but BM doesn't have autofocus too.
Thanks Ivan! I agree that the GH6 is better designed as a solo shooter run and gun camera out of the two, there are plenty of solo shooters running 6K Pro's. The 6K Pro features loads of awesome features as well that make shooting easier too, comparing cameras is difficult as they are just tools for different jobs, and one person may need on over the other. It's just great we have options! Jake
@@CVPTV Totally agree Jake. I'm shooting primarily with Sony now, but I miss shooting with LUMIX cameras because they are really fun to use and has a lot of awesome features. And one of them is actually the weather sealing.
I was considering buying BM6K Pro, but I'm not sure it is weather sealed?
I'm saying all that, because for my style of shooting I really need a very rugged camera.
gr8 and full review!
Thanks for help!
great video but one mistake.GH6 has no the ability to shoot 4K 120p 4:2:2 10-Bit yet.It will be able with external monitor only in future update
Excellent review!
Quick question, what's the name of the song in the intro B-roll? Liked that vibe 🤘🤘
Just a comment that’s not about the embargo lol. Great video CVP team!
Looking forward to that future firmware update. Recording to ssd is a game changer in my opinion
Yeah awesome to see some great features coming! Jake
The 10-25mm and 25-50mm pulse like hell on the GH6, and the worse is the focus is totally innacurate in AF-C video with 4K low frame rate (24/30fps). Some lenses like the 25mm f1.4 II works very well though.
What is the best autofocus lenses in your opinion for the gh6?
@@ohdeazy1567 The only lens I have which works OK at low frame rate in 4K/C4K/5,7K is the PanaLeica 25mm f1.4 II. All my other lenses (10-25mm, 25-50mm, 25mm Pro, 45mm Pro and 100-400mm PanaLeica) have accuracy issue at 24/25 and 30fps.
great review !
awsome !! thank you review
Thanks for watching! Jake
Thank you for the video! I have a question 🙋♂️
What would be the best camera for photography and filmmaking at a budget of 1 to 2 thousand pounds?
Thanks
GREAT review! Thanks!! As nobody could tell me so far, I have a question. In photo mode and if you use the viewfinder, the image is slightly less sharp shown in the viewfinder than (after pressing the trigger and making the photo) in playback mode right after pressing the trigger. That makes it difficult for me to manually focus without the help of focus peaking or the magnifier. This has nothing to do with the diopter. And it is only the case in still mode, not in video mode. I wonder if this is the case with all GH6 or only with mine. Have you seen this on your test or could you check that if not?
Excellent review
hi, love your content. i've just sold my a7c (before i've got the a6500 and a7iii) and i'm torn between the gh6 and the s5. main reason of getting out from sony ecosystem was bad ibis, didnt like the color science, 8 bit and 1080p slow mo only. what do you say between the two? i want the better image quality and ibis possible..thanks!
Hey Avi, I would say the GH6 has better IBIS than the S5 and the S5 has better image quality than the GH6. The GH6 is a more fully featured camera, it will just depends if the improved functions and smaller lens options, outweigh the image quality difference. Jake
i mean, the dynamic range of the s5 is really good. at the comparison with that guy near the color checker, s5 overexposed +4 looks really good, even better when compared to a7iv, and a lot better than gh6 i would say. also, i knew canon has less dynamic range, but i think even gh6 has better. r6 looked quite bad. so im surprised at s5 vs a7iv, s5 looks much better at +4 (i didnt pay attentive attention to all other values as comparison between cameras, but s5 is really nice). still, af is bad. s5 i think is a more well rounded camera, at least for a novice/intermediate. and i think it's considerable smaller and lighter than gh6, if i'm not mistaken... it's a good purchase (s5), but because af, i would say it's not worth buying new.
Exactly. The S5 is really the dark horse when it comes to filmmaking with mirrorless cameras. It's dynamic range is only surpassed by cinema cameras upwards of €8000
The only reason that could prevent me from buying is the HDR bracketing settings called AEB. The GH4 shot brackets of 3,5, and 7 in increments of 1 EV or smaller. It needs to have steps of at least 2 EV for real estate. Could you tell me if the GH6 has AEB 5 @ 2EV??
So the GH5s would better in low light and the dual ISO works better there ?
Great review as always. How did you find the colour science in comparison with the bmpcc 4k & 6k cams? It's advertised as 12 stops but watching Gerald Undone's review he thinks it's closer to 10 stops & 11 stops with the boost on. Shame the native ISO is so high on the boosted mode. I've loved my GH5. It's been a great workhorse for run & gun but image quality is most important now. I've waited to see what the GH6 can do before deciding on going down the Black Magic route. Do you see the image quality an upgrade on the GH5 and more specifically, an upgrade or comparable to the BM's pocket cams?
If you're mostly interested in dynamic range measurements, Gerald Undone uses the same methodology that CineD uses, and they've got dynamic range measurements for all the cameras you named in your comment. It's also worth keeping in mind that manufacturers typically report dynamic range by counting the number of patches in the test chart that are distinguishable from black, whereas Gerald and CineD count the number of patches in the test chart that exceed a certain signal to noise ratio, which will report a smaller number than the first method. Thats not to say that one of these methods is the "correct" way to measure DR, just that one is more pessimistic than the other.
Panasonic has certainly left us wildlife shooters in the lurch with the admittedly inadequate autofocus. But I heard a comment on the Lumix live stream that could make up for it. Is it true that the MFT sensor can be further cropped for extra reach?
Yes, this is possible on all Panasonic cameras.
Well yeah of course, and the photo auto focus is fine for wildlife anyways.
ISO 2000 (DR boost) in daylight conditions it could be too high for ND Variables filters. I'm worried about it :(
Do you think the difference in dynamic range between the S5 and the GH6 is big enough to justify a switch to someone already invested in MFT? I have 4-5 lenses already and I like the size/cost of the MFT lenses but I shoot a decent amount of photos as well as video so looking for a true hybrid option.
The HDMI delay is a bummer. Tho on my GH5 it's significantly less when outputting 1080p to an external monitor. Is that also the case on the GH6?
Disable the audio on the HDMI port and note the significant reduction in the delay.
No jitterproblem anymore when panning/following moving subjects, like the GH5 had? I hope this error is solved now...
Where you come for the gear and stay for the cooking.
For a newbie that knows what vlog is, what does the whole vlog, boost and exposure thing mean?
So the Panasonic S series did best when overexposing and the Sony best with under exposing
Need camera for TH-cam and vlogging.
Please advise if this is good or which one should I get..
Do you have a review on that Revo ring ND .I hate having o stack filters and with my polorizer is never on the right setting after trying to get the both at the right spot. How good is the polorizer on cars does it remove alot of the reflections because the one I have doesn't do much
pixel pitch is ~3 microns not 2 as mentioned in the video BTW other than that great review
Good spot, I will add a note on my pinned comment. Jake
Man, this level of testing is Gamers Nexus tier 😋
Thank you, I watch GN and I appreciate being compared to them!! Thanks for watching, Jake
There is some good stuff in the GH6, but frankly, I think I'd rather it have Dual ISO over the Dynamic Range Boost. Its a gimmick. I'd rather a GH5ii.
It's a matter of time when M43 Panasonic cameras will have phase AF
Imagine they implemented better Af in gh6!
We can just imagine now actually 😑
When the battery is exhausted, does the power back on this camera also cork? Or can it be run from a power bank? I look forward to hearing from you.
No, you have to have a battery with some charge in the camera for it to boot.
However once you’ve got a source powering via USB-C it won’t use the battery. Jake
So which better in low light and high frame rates ? The s1h or the gh6 ?
Is there a way to still have have run/stop beeps with an external monitor plugged into HDMI? This was a problem on the GH5 that I was hoping would be fixed on the GH6, but I’m not finding a solution. Help!!
Any more sensor smearing updates? Thanks!
Any word or link for the Panasonic approved media list?
Is the Metabones Speed Booster XL (0.64x) compatible with the GH6? I think you mentioned it but I wanted to double check before I bought one.
Yes it will! Jake
ＧＲＥＡＴ ＲＥＶＩＥＷ！ very thanks
Thanks for watching! Jake
hello, what iso and format was the pocket 6k pro shot at? great review, liked.
BRAW 3:1 ISO 400. Thanks for watching, Jake
@@CVPTV was highlight recovery box ticked in the overexposure test? thanks
Yes it was. Jake
@@CVPTV thank you
Can someone tell me which is best for shooting videos.. this or sony a7 mark 4 ?
Doesn't the S5 have a crop on most recording modes anyway though?
In some yes, how come? Jake
Agreed... Panasonic had the chance to make the almost perfect camera (again) and BLEW IT! Then made us wait 4 years for the GH6 to be released!! It's 2022 and STILL... DFD AF!!! WHAT???
Was wondering if there is any mention / analysis of the streaking issues with the sensor?
We mentioned it at 29:28?
@@CVPTV ah, probably skipped over it - was expecting it being described in more detail or have a separate chapter. From what you say it's not a particular camera problem but a general CMOS issue that many cameras experience ... yet GH6 was the only camera that you saw do this from all of the many many cameras you've tested. Got it :D
The S1H and S5 tests in this video too show it as well! Google it and I'm sure you will be able to find various cameras that suffer from it. Jake
With DR Boost + VLOG, do you still need to expose 1 to 2 stops over?
I would set your zebras or use you waveform to expose your highlights in your scene to clip and then bring them back as highlight performance isn’t as good as the cameras shadow. Jake
I recently got the gh6 and have used it a couple times so far but I'm getting static/noise in vlog, even during the day. Is this happening with anyone else? Some of the images I've seen from this thing are incredible, but this static/noise issue is driving me nuts. Some of the luts I've put on improve the images but some images are straight garbage. I knew exactly what to do with iso on my gh5 and its limits, but what's the deal here?
Same thing. I have a feeling like all TH-camrs / Filmmakers got a different GH6. I get so much noise in V-log per day that it is totally unusable. Not to mention that ISO2000 (DR Boost mode on). Someone may now say that we are stupid and that it is because of the size of the sensor, but something is wrong here.
@@DOMSONyt I did some tests today, I'll let you know how they turned out. I have a hunch it's one of my lenses which I've only used that one but I used all 3 today so we'll see.
@@anthonypensero7690 what was the conclusion. how is the gh6 treating you, go into as much detail as possible if u want.
@Love First when i wrote that, I've since realized I didn't know what I was doing or talking about and I've learned so much since. Overall, the gh6 is a solid camera and I liked it, but I only used it for 6 or 7 video projects and 1 photography project. I have since switched to Sony and now have the fx30. I'm not the best to break it all down for you on the Gh6 bc I didn't have it long. I have more fun learning about Sony and have more fun actually using the fx30. Idk if that makes sense, but I find the experience more enjoyable. It's also been much better for my workflow. Idk what you need the gh6 for, but the autofucus is not reliable, so if that's something you're gonna use, don't buy this. It would help to know what you need it for.
@@lovefirst6157 I'd look at the LUMIX S5 II if I were you
Your obsession with autofocus totally skewed the review beyond proportion. While you mention the good points of the camera, you clearly diminish the value of the camera on autofocus alone. Neither Sony nor Canon offer Prores internal on anything near this price point or size....you have to go x3 the price to get that. The video feature set is far, far, far beyond the ridiculously crippled camera's from Canon and Sony. The A7s3 is nearly x2 the price, has no internal prores codecs, has inferior stabilisation and is limited to 4k resolution and 1/2 the resolution pics...oh, it has good focus. You and others gave it a glowing review and very tepid review of the GH6. Ridiculous. That said your well thought out explanation of the camera is appreciated.
My main rig is the S1H and I prefer it to the A7S III. That being said, the poor autofocus forces me to also own the A7S III as a solo event shooter. Panasonic had years to listen to their customers and they chose not to. Prores internal is not that important if you use an external recorder. You can get braw out of the S1H and prores raw out of the A7S III.
there is barely any reason to get this over zcam e2 m4 if it doesn't have good af, and don't mention ibis, it's never gonna look as good as a properly rigged camera
Sorry but It hasn’t. Did you watch the reflections and autofocus performance section? I was very balanced with my thoughts on the af. Basically if you need to trust it 100% don’t buy it, and I stand by that. Otherwise you can get a cracking camera for the price. I don’t really state my opinion to much in this video tbh. You’ve failed to mention the cameras biggest competition, BlackMagic, the 6K Pro is the same price and has some big advantages over the GH6, though the GH6 has some too.
@@kilikdudley The simplicity of internal prores, without different batteries being ready, rigging, cables and the operating system of the recorder/monitor all complicating the process and increase the possibility of error.
@@CVPTV Apologies for not correctly acknowledgeing the thorough, well thought out and well produced video. However, your summary at the end overemphasised the importance of a higher level of autofocus. Your subtle implication of "if you don't need autofocus buy this, if you do need autofocus look elsewhere" WAS imbalanced. It has very good autofocus, just not up the spec of a few others. But the 5.7k prores internal, an abundance of hi spec video options, 10 bit 422 120p, Superb stabilisation, highly durable body, well thought out controls, superb data capture thru CFexpress B for around 2000 make this a far, far better proposition than the MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND CRIPPLED Sony, Red or Canon equivalent. Fair points about the BM 6kpro being a very viable alternative. I LOVE BRAW AND DAVINCI!! All that said, thank you for the many excellent video's you have provided over the years. They truly have been top notch and helpful. Looking forward to buying some gear from CVP in the near future and watching more content from your channel. Subscribed.
Compare with Sony a7 iv
nativ iso?