The fact that Jerry shows more emotion at the pact being broken than his best friends fiancé dying is the perfect example of how bad these people really are
I’d actually love to see an alternative version where she signs the prenup, they get married, and George becomes the multi-billionaire he always pretended he’d become but he realizes he has to make the marriage work otherwise he’ll lose the fortune he was just handed, because let’s face it, the marriage would never have worked.
@@SonjaHamburg no that was more or less something articles and whatnot blew out of proportion - in the DVD extras the actress for Susan and the other actors speak well of each other.
I think you're right about that. It was like an episode of Night Gallery, a horror TV show back in the 70's and hosted by Rod Serling of Twilight Zone fame. And if her portrait didn't change, it should have.
i thought it was sweet (maybe the only sweet moment to be found in the cache of george costanza moments) how he used the "stuff your sorries in a sack" line well after susan's death
Its perfect because it mirrors the audience's feelings, george is now free from the marriage and the gang will stick together and the show will continue. George feels the same relief that we do and the others dont care about susans death just like the audience doesnt. It was the perfect way to handle it.
I feel bad for all Susan put up with but I never felt bad for her parents. They were such a callous, loveless, rich couple cliche that George's antics mainly exposed their issues rather than caused them. He was like a wildfire burning through dead wood, and Susan was the only lush spot in the forest.
I need a source on this lol Jason Alexander said in an interview that he didn't want to work with the actress anymore because their comedic timing didn't match. Julia LD agreed and was the one to give the idea of her death. Jason had to apologize on Twitter for his comments. My friend also met Heidi Swedberg and he was warned not to ask her about the show.
@@lordalessan I don't have a written source---I saw that interview on TV. You are quite correct about what you said about Jason and Julia. She actually said to Larry, "Let's kill her." lol She just didn't fit in to their kind of comedy. But Heidi really liked the idea of her being snuffed.
So, the main cast didn't think Heidi was a good fit and was happy she was leaving the show, and Heidi was happy that she was leaving the show. Seems like a win for all involved.
@@lordalessan They not having chemistry in a comedy show seems like a reasonable reason for not wanting to work together anymore. People really blow things out of proportion if he had to apologize for something like that.
@@lordalessan But that just doesn't make any sense--Heidi and Jason had chemistry good enough that Susan was repeatedly brought back, more than any other girlfriend in the series, and that was *before* the engagement storyline came up. And I don't know how the engagement storyline ends in any other way. Heidi was never going to be a 5th regular or even a Newman-type regular and they weren't going to actually have George get married, yet it was also established over the course of the season that escape was impossible for George. Susan wasn't going to break off the wedding for any reason. Death was the only way out.
Did the Ross' actually have a legal means of forcing George to work for the foundation? Or is it just that if George declined it would be akin to admitting his relationship with the woman he killed was bogus and he just doesn't want to have to endure that awkward conversation?
@@CaptainJZH It wouldn't make sense irl and it don't make sense in Seinfeld. George (or any man for that matter) who didn't even like her, would NOT be doing this sort of shet for no money. Not a chance in hell
what's funny about this is, the doctor already knows how cheap George is and clearly indicates Susan's death was a result of toxic glue found in cheap envelopes.
Guess you don't know the real reason as to why they got rid of her? Jason didn't like the chemistry of her acting, and it wasn't until Jerry and Julia had to do scenes with her. Is when they all agreed that she wasn't a good fit for the show
@@stevielagan1948"[Jason] Alexander stressed that he likes [Heidi] Swedberg personally, but that *he 'couldn’t figure out how to play off of her.* Her instincts for doing a scene, where the comedy was, and mine were always misfiring. And she would do something, and I would go, ‘OK, I see what she’s going to do - I’m going to adjust to her.’ And I’d adjust, and then it would change.' *So one day Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who played Elaine, joked about killing Susan on the show.* And Larry David, the show’s creator, decided to do just that. Susan met her demise licking toxic wedding invitation envelopes." (Time, Jun 4 15)
5:47 Wrath Of Khan, the Star Trek picture from 1982. Personally I prefer The Motion Picture from 1979 but I reckon the best by far is Star Trek Generations from 1994.
I always thought it would be kind of funny if George ended up in prison because his strange behavior after her death made the police suspect a murder. I can sort imagine Jerry and Kramer visiting him with the glass partition.
Seinfeld really wrote themselves into a corner with Susan. It was the one storyline that never really found its footing. And it turned George from a selfish bafoon into a really nasty evil person. it was often hard to watch. some of it was still funny but damn.
It's because the actor that was playing George said that he didn't have any comic chemistry with the actress, so Seinfeld did the logical thing and fired her. However, I wished they didn't kill her off like that and rather that they broke up(again).
“[Swedberg] was generous and gracious, and I am so mad at myself for retelling this story in any way that would diminish her,” Alexander continued. “If I had had more maturity or more security in my own work, I surely would have taken her query and possibly tried to adjust the scenes with her. She surely offered. But, I didn’t have that maturity or security.”
@@krit5339 I can see that. Jason was a shark for parts before Seinfeld. Broadway. Off-Broadway. Commercials. All Seinfeld fans should watch "Pretty Woman" again. With Sienfeld, he got the break of a lifetime. Then Michael Richards almost stole the show. He was a young actor just taking care of himself. He wasn't there to pound square pegs into rouind holes.
@@ChicagoIrishman He also got really mad at Larry David when George wasn't included in the episode "The Pen". He told him straight up "The next time you write me out of an episode, do it permanently."
@@krit5339 Jason Alexander said that later, Jason Alexander is the one who carried this show and the actress who played Susan is a clown now. Quoating without context like you know something LOL. Check their careers then talk
@@samtoney2904 I think your replying to the wrong person. There's almost no episode I don't like. I'm all for Larry David's philosophy of "no hugs and no learning." His characters are despicable. I love it.
Poor Lily.
Poor little Pinkus.
7:42
The fact that Jerry shows more emotion at the pact being broken than his best friends fiancé dying is the perfect example of how bad these people really are
I’d actually love to see an alternative version where she signs the prenup, they get married, and George becomes the multi-billionaire he always pretended he’d become but he realizes he has to make the marriage work otherwise he’ll lose the fortune he was just handed, because let’s face it, the marriage would never have worked.
Lol yeah
There’s a similar storyline in the Seinfeld arc in Curb your enthusiasm
@@SonjaHamburg no that was more or less something articles and whatnot blew out of proportion - in the DVD extras the actress for Susan and the other actors speak well of each other.
@@CaptainJZH no I remember seeing the “hidden episode” George and his billionaire ex-wife and the prenup is exactly what happened.
@@LordOmnissiahthat was the Curb Your Enthusiasm reunion episode
If this scene didn't directly inspire the creation of "It's Always Sunny", I would be shocked.
It did, because of the implication......
It’s so Dennis
Have you ever scene iasip?
@@danielinthedark2535
It sounds like Susan is in danger here…
There's no danger! There never was any danger! It's just the implication of danger!
This all implies he didn’t know Susan was rich because he never really talked to her during their entire relationship. 😂
Gotta say this ,not a single seinfeld video where I haven't seen your comment .
Wow. Your brilliant. You saw right through that did you? You’re a truly remarkable person.
I’m like 90% certain that Susan’s portrait got smugger after they started going through her assets.
I think you're right about that. It was like an episode of Night Gallery, a horror TV show back in the 70's and hosted by Rod Serling of Twilight Zone fame. And if her portrait didn't change, it should have.
I hope Heidi Swedberg got that portrait of Susan after the show ended.
i thought it was sweet (maybe the only sweet moment to be found in the cache of george costanza moments) how he used the "stuff your sorries in a sack" line well after susan's death
Agreed! Shows that maybe he picked up more from Susan than he had thought
God George deserved Susan's Parents revenge and they DID NOT DISSAPOINT!
If only George had not cheaped out on the glue
Then he wouldn't have been George.
We gonna ignore how Mr. Ross bought a gun and was prepared to KILL George!😅
George could have sued the envelope company or their insurance and probably get filthy rich.
Restrained jubilation
Aw shit. I missed you in the comments...but its so absurd, we can do it twice.
I got to hand it to George. His mourning period is extremely short, on the order of nanoseconds. 😂
You gotta move on
Susan's death and it's aftermath was the gang at their absolute fucking worst. 😆
Wanna get some coffee?
Its perfect because it mirrors the audience's feelings, george is now free from the marriage and the gang will stick together and the show will continue. George feels the same relief that we do and the others dont care about susans death just like the audience doesnt. It was the perfect way to handle it.
I feel bad for all Susan put up with but I never felt bad for her parents. They were such a callous, loveless, rich couple cliche that George's antics mainly exposed their issues rather than caused them. He was like a wildfire burning through dead wood, and Susan was the only lush spot in the forest.
So you're saying the burning cabin was a metaphor for George (and Kramer's) involvement in their lives?
Apparently, when Larry David approached Heidi Swedberg about the prospect of killing her off, she loved the idea.
I need a source on this lol Jason Alexander said in an interview that he didn't want to work with the actress anymore because their comedic timing didn't match. Julia LD agreed and was the one to give the idea of her death. Jason had to apologize on Twitter for his comments. My friend also met Heidi Swedberg and he was warned not to ask her about the show.
@@lordalessan I don't have a written source---I saw that interview on TV. You are quite correct about what you said about Jason and Julia. She actually said to Larry, "Let's kill her." lol She just didn't fit in to their kind of comedy. But Heidi really liked the idea of her being snuffed.
So, the main cast didn't think Heidi was a good fit and was happy she was leaving the show, and Heidi was happy that she was leaving the show. Seems like a win for all involved.
@@lordalessan They not having chemistry in a comedy show seems like a reasonable reason for not wanting to work together anymore. People really blow things out of proportion if he had to apologize for something like that.
@@lordalessan But that just doesn't make any sense--Heidi and Jason had chemistry good enough that Susan was repeatedly brought back, more than any other girlfriend in the series, and that was *before* the engagement storyline came up. And I don't know how the engagement storyline ends in any other way. Heidi was never going to be a 5th regular or even a Newman-type regular and they weren't going to actually have George get married, yet it was also established over the course of the season that escape was impossible for George. Susan wasn't going to break off the wedding for any reason. Death was the only way out.
“We don’t like you, George, 😬.”
I like how George just says "Oh".
"And we always blamed you for what happened to Susan."
George wants everybody to hate him. He's just getting the answer he expects
George told her to buy Elmers…
"She expired" Like she's some carton of milk lol
My Mom always hates it when he says that.
@@12Blueace I don't.
She is
I've worked at hospitals and actually some places do use that term when someone passes.
Like a magazine subscription!
"Restrained Jubilation."
One of the only funny lines in The Finale. That and Jackie's opening argument about the guilty bystander.
14:48 - Mr. Ross buying the gun is so funny because they play it deadly serious!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
George was safer being locked up
Susan was way more interesting after she'd died. RIP Susan
Did the Ross' actually have a legal means of forcing George to work for the foundation? Or is it just that if George declined it would be akin to admitting his relationship with the woman he killed was bogus and he just doesn't want to have to endure that awkward conversation?
Oh no it wasn't a legal obligation it was really just emotional blackmail, because George still felt the need to pretend to be the Grieving Widow
@@CaptainJZHfyi a male widow is a widower.
@@jeremytung1632 So who's the "widowest"?
He didn't even kill her. If anything they should be suing the shop that sold the envelopes.
@@CaptainJZH It wouldn't make sense irl and it don't make sense in Seinfeld. George (or any man for that matter) who didn't even like her, would NOT be doing this sort of shet for no money. Not a chance in hell
"No complaints"
Cooooolllldddd blooded
A low rumple...
followed by a metallic squink...
followed by a mysterious galonk?!?!
"You should be mister Peanut."
Someone really cracks up at that joke at 6:43
"Oh help me Rhonda"🤣
May she rest in peace.
Susan would still be alive if George didn’t enter her life
Why don't the sue the store or the envelope company?
Because he’s cheap!
@@yourmotherisanastronaut and already filthy rich
The scene where they are told of Susan’s death is the blackest in all of sitcom history
And now?
Not
was that a Keats poem
No. It’s a Newman 🤣😂
George looks at that picture of Susan and is thinking “God I hate you so much.”
And that smile of hers in the picture...it's almost like she's saying "I may be dead, but I'll still be watching you."
You should not lick envelopes!
I love how George is not emotional about her death he
Just shrugs it off 😂😂 I wanna be like George no emotion at all 😂😂
pero pobre susan no lo merecia
what's funny about this is, the doctor already knows how cheap George is and clearly indicates Susan's death was a result of toxic glue found in cheap envelopes.
It's quite easy just don't give a shit about anything
@@sinoverlord409now that’s not true, he got emotional reminiscing about when Spock died.
@@jeremytung1632and when he got caught bootlegging “Why did the policeman have to yell at me like that?”
They should have kept Susan for a bit longer!
Guess you don't know the real reason as to why they got rid of her? Jason didn't like the chemistry of her acting, and it wasn't until Jerry and Julia had to do scenes with her. Is when they all agreed that she wasn't a good fit for the show
Jason Alexander has come out and actively refuted that story.
@@stevielagan1948"[Jason] Alexander stressed that he likes [Heidi] Swedberg personally, but that *he 'couldn’t figure out how to play off of her.* Her instincts for doing a scene, where the comedy was, and mine were always misfiring. And she would do something, and I would go, ‘OK, I see what she’s going to do - I’m going to adjust to her.’ And I’d adjust, and then it would change.'
*So one day Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who played Elaine, joked about killing Susan on the show.* And Larry David, the show’s creator, decided to do just that. Susan met her demise licking toxic wedding invitation envelopes." (Time, Jun 4 15)
“So Susans Dead.”
💀
@@ricke4434 "Poor Lily."
5:47 Wrath Of Khan, the Star Trek picture from 1982. Personally I prefer The Motion Picture from 1979 but I reckon the best by far is Star Trek Generations from 1994.
I always thought it would be kind of funny if George ended up in prison because his strange behavior after her death made the police suspect a murder. I can sort imagine Jerry and Kramer visiting him with the glass partition.
I hope my parents go long before I do😂😂😂
They hope so too
I hope Susan is haunting George.
Come on let's get some coffee!
Exactly what the four of them did after they found out that Susan had "expired."
WE HAD A PACT!
"Had she been exposed to any cheap adhesives?"
does anyone think George might’ve murdered Susan 🤣
Poor Lily
I cringe at George for his actions.
I have no remorse for him whatsoever.
Seinfeld really wrote themselves into a corner with Susan. It was the one storyline that never really found its footing. And it turned George from a selfish bafoon into a really nasty evil person. it was often hard to watch. some of it was still funny but damn.
He was made that way since the busboy episode in season two, unfortunately.
It's because the actor that was playing George said that he didn't have any comic chemistry with the actress, so Seinfeld did the logical thing and fired her. However, I wished they didn't kill her off like that and rather that they broke up(again).
You musta forgot what show you're watching
evil person? Just because you can't force yourself into loving someone makes you evil? What a dumb, pointless stupid comment.
Totally agree. Show jumped the shark big time. Hated it after that.
So she's dead?
The doctor looks a lot like Joe Besser's son
I found it insensitive . All of their reaction to Susan’s death
The joke is that the gang is too self-absorbed to care.
$2.6 million doll collection 🤣
How much for the doll of his mom?
what about the ketchup and coffee scene
Pretty sure it was mustard, but ketchup would have worked too.
"NO COMPLAINTS"
to be the face of a huge organization with deep pockets but none of the financial inheritance.. so George Cantstandya🤣🤣
Good God only Seinfeld could make light of a man losing his wife
They had to kill off Susan's character as George didn't feel the chemistry with her.
He has no emotion over her death whatsoever 😅
They killed her off because they didn't get along on set.
George killed her 😂
Ofcourse absolutely he did
@@spdadventurer1754
She is a nice lady better than George
@@siyahkirmizi3341 true 🥺
They killed her off cause no one could get along with her or work with her for that matter
“[Swedberg] was generous and gracious, and I am so mad at myself for retelling this story in any way that would diminish her,” Alexander continued. “If I had had more maturity or more security in my own work, I surely would have taken her query and possibly tried to adjust the scenes with her. She surely offered. But, I didn’t have that maturity or security.”
But i mean it kinda worked perfectly for the plot, cuz there was no way george and susan were ever gonna get married lmao
@@krit5339 I can see that. Jason was a shark for parts before Seinfeld. Broadway. Off-Broadway. Commercials.
All Seinfeld fans should watch "Pretty Woman" again. With Sienfeld, he got the break of a lifetime. Then Michael Richards almost stole the show. He was a young actor just taking care of himself. He wasn't there to pound square pegs into rouind holes.
@@ChicagoIrishman He also got really mad at Larry David when George wasn't included in the episode "The Pen". He told him straight up "The next time you write me out of an episode, do it permanently."
@@krit5339 Jason Alexander said that later, Jason Alexander is the one who carried this show and the actress who played Susan is a clown now. Quoating without context like you know something LOL.
Check their careers then talk
What terrible people
This is where Seinfeld jumped the shark.
No, you can not say that.
@@codeword8424they became unlikeable narcissists and sociopaths.
@@snappycattimesten"No hugs and no learning" -L.D.
still doesnt mean it wasnt poorly written@@Bout_TreeFiddy
@@samtoney2904 I think your replying to the wrong person. There's almost no episode I don't like. I'm all for Larry David's philosophy of "no hugs and no learning." His characters are despicable. I love it.
7:57 I like Flathem…pardon?…Flabeeee
*googles Posthumous*