I set myself a challenge to make a 20+ minute KOTOR video in under 24 hours. So here is the result! What did you think? Be sure to let me know in the comments below! Also, if you wanna listen to me ramble about why Visas is KOTOR's best girl, come follow me on Twitter! - twitter.com/100PerStarWars
It was pretty good. The only part that was missed was HK-47 being around until the Clone Wars. Of course he spent a lot of the time in a deactivated state.
Nothing about Trask was Tragic, so it was impossible to include him. He'll be front and center for the "1 Majestic FACT about Every KOTOR Companion" video though ;)
Canderous killing his wife is kinda meaningless within kotor 2 story if you turned revan to dark side Canderous killed his wife for revan only for revan to beat the fk out of him Even tho revan novel came out later i think
100%: "First up is the first companion we meet first:" Me: "Wonder what he's got to say about Trask Ulgo, Ensign of the Republic Fleet." 100%: "Carth Onasi." Me: "Oh..."
I think the most tragic moment in Kotor history is when the mass shadow generator was activated, so many people suffered because of that event. Everyone died, the Jedi exile lost all of her force bonds which led to an excruciating pain, Bao Dur suffered from immense guilt, it's where Canderous lost the war that he was destined to win and it was one of the turning points for Revan and Malak. But the most painful consequence out of all is that of Darth Nihilus, it is where his hunger was born, which consumed and tortured him and eventually entire planets.
I'm pretty sure it also created Darth Sion also. In kotor 2 at the sith academy I'm pretty sure he tells you that he awoke broken on that broken world with nothing but rage
I think Carth's story gets so much worse if you romance him as Lady Revan. He finally opens up and finds another chance at love only to have her leave him behind and never return. 😢
How dare you not mention the mega-chad Trask Ulgo who guides you on how to open chests and transfer your consciousness into different people temporarily!
I always had a crush on bastila, and somehow I imagined Kate Beckinsale as her in a live action movie, that prolly will never happen. Hyped for the remake and I hope to see the KOTOR story as a series of movies or just a Series. Dunno why Disney is sleeping on this, they would prolly change the story so much that it would be shit anyway.
@@100StarWars do you think it would be a great idea thats if Disney chooses to reboot the franchise that they should adapt the the Kotor trilogy (I’m including the original canceled Kotor III)
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be to mimic eyes. But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes explicitly.
Awesome job with this video man 😎👍🏼. I have to say my top 4 favorite companions on this video list is Carth, Atton, Bastila, and Brianna. I’ll admit, I used to have a bit of a crush on Brianna back in High School lol 😂. I just hope that one day we have more interaction with every companion in a KOTOR 3.
Pretty sure you've got Zalbaar's timeline a little switched up. He attacked his brother, then tries to explain himself to his father. Dad doesn't believe him, and declares Zalbaar a MadClaw. After Zalbaar is off planet, his brother is able to take power, declare their father a MadClaw, and drive Dad to the surface.
The sad-est moment of the whole thing is, they didn't make the KotOR 2 as it should have been... and even 18 year later, even though it was announced multiple times and all, for example, the Nintendo Switch version hasn't gotten that version of it... aka there's still no DLC for that.
Only Revan and HK-47 actually appear tbf, and the Exile. They weren't handled amazingly well, I will admit. Especially the Exile. But at least it was set far enough in the future that the rest of the cast were all dead. And for clarity, no, I don't consider that weird Force Ghost thing to be Kreia. That was the writing team being really quite thick and no KOTOR 2 fan appreciated the suggestion at all.
Ich denke ich spreche für viele wenn ich sage das ich mir gewünscht hätte das Keira sehen köntte, wie die Republik und Jedi verändert. Insbesondere Omama Keira spricht zu Vaner Shan und erzählt ihm über seinen Vater (selbstredent einige Lügen) aber am interessanten wäre es zu sehen ob Sie erkennen wie er seinem Vater ähnlich ist.
What exactly do you mean by "he even had her eyes removed" ? Visas is Miraluka, her species never had any eyes. O_o Miraluka "see" (for the lack of better therm) trough the Force, and that is sight that was "damaged" for Visas by Nihilus ... bcs he forced his own vision of the Galaxy on her ... Technically Kreia is using the same techique ... And Visas can teach you to do that aswell.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be. Essentially... carving out her eyes metaphorically. But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes as it could have been misinterpreted!
Visas Marr was a Miralukan, and can see through the Force. She didn't have eyes to start with. The species is born without eyes. So she had no eyes to take from her. HK-47 actually lived up until at least the Clone Wars.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be. Carving out her eyes metaphorically.
@100% Star Wars Here is how I would have said it. Visas Marr was a Miralukan, and that she had no eyes, but she did have eye sockets. And Nihilus, I forgot how to spell the name, took what had grown over the sockets to make holes like she had eyes. As a symbol that he took her eyes.
The most tragic event was turning on the mass shadow generator weapon since it kickstarted so many events and caused so much pain. Killing Kreia is second. I know she was happy and fulfilled but I wish there was an option to save her. Just because her teachings are passed it doesn't mean there is no more future for her. She didn't need to repent for her sins, but the love she had for Exile and admiration for Revan could have been something to push her further. Perhaps there would be a way to slightly redeem her by saving Revan and Exile in a theoretical Kotor 3? Such an amazing teacher gone while the new era for the jedi starts is just such a waste
I mean I'd argue Revan is a great deal more interesting, maybe not from a Kotor 1 vs Kotor 2 standpoint, but when taking all lore into account from the Old Republic era, Revan is significantly more interesting.
Jolee Bindo (er hat vermutlich überlebt) nach Kotor 2 erhält besuch von Atris und die beiden leben zusammen, lange Unterhaltungen einfache Feldarbeit, Jagt und Spaziergänge.
Carth's fate might get worse depending on how you treat his son, let alone how you align. Won't count the Bastila one, for I'm discounting TOR, and also thinking about the Dark Side routes (and also the Light Side routes where you kill her, but alas, KotOR II doesn't have a save system). Same with T3's. I prefer him having an ambiguous fate. Canderous' fate, even if TOR-centered, sure makes Boba Fett's life feel more heavenly. Am surprised you didn't talk about the vague possibility that Juhani died on Katarr. You're right, HK-47 is simply tragedy(maker) incarnate.
T3-M4 war ursprünglich Eigentum von David Kang ebenso wie der Ebenholz Falke. Legen wir eine Schweigeminute ein für David Kang dem wir diesen Begleiter und dieses Schiff zu verdanken haben.
T3 is a chad and I will hear nothing against that little rust bucket... he was a force to be reckoned with and I like to think T3 had transferred his memory into the Hawk before going to fight Vitiate
So this is kind of unrelated but seems like as good a place as any to mention it but I remember thinking on my first play through of kotor 2 that jedi woman that atton encountered was erin kai and I know there's the theory of kriea being erin kae and I that one makes sense too I don't even know if the time line lines up for that jedi to be her but that's what I thought of when hearing that story for the first time
I don't remember that necessarily being alluded to regarding Atton and Arren Kai, and Atton was pretty damn insistent on "I murdered her!" hence why her ALSO being Kreia wouldn't make sense. To me, Kreia being Arren Kai has more traction given that it would make sense if this was her persona when she was a Jedi, she fell to the Dark Side and became Traya. Not to mention, the story that she fell in love with an Echani warlord and begat Brianna certainly lines up with her unorthodox philosophy. Plus, she certainly treats the Handmaiden VERY differently to the rest of the cast. Of course, it's equally likely they are two completely different characters. 😂😂
The Book of droids tell a different story for HK-47 & Goto. The comics and The Old Republic have a different story for Carth, Bastila, Atton, Mira, Bao Durr, Mical, Brianna, and Visas. Visas Marr eyes wasn't removed, she a Miraluka, Miraluka are a force sensitive species born without eyes, they "All" see through the force.T3 was right
My God... These were sad. Some of these I had no idea about. Like GO-TO was a DROID!? I thought he just used that to talk to the Exile. Also I had a massive crush on Mission cause, at the time, she was older than me. Lol.
I must admit, it did take me ages to get the "You ARE the droid I'm looking for!" achievement on Steam. But damn, maxing influence With G0T0 really recontextualises soooooo much of the game. The Restoration Project, the Exchange, the bounty and all those HK-50s, plus his actions on Malachor. It's crazy!
Now I'm no expert, but I thought the Mandalorian's revered and respected Revan - not down right hated him. That isn't to say you can't respect someone but dislike them, but the Mandalorian's are all about honor in battle and whatnot.
Some people tend to hate the characters who are mean to their guy. Who remembers the forums when the game was released should remember that Kreia actually came back from being one of the characters most hated by thin-skinned players. The NPCs, like Vrook and Belaya, have it worse, but I found both of their stories tear-jerkingly tragic. It all depends on how badly your guy mishandles the situation due to malice or otherwise, and it's often not canonical. Vrook, but especially Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell, are just in the middle of it all while their world is being destroyed, stuck in their ways and unable to escape it. You can either be the one who hunts them down, like an assassin, or watches how they fail to measure up to what the galaxy needs. Belaya, on the other, resembles Yuthura in that she, too, may leave the Jedi, and she'll do the wrong thing for the right reason: she'll go from loving someone to hating you for what you did. Then you can mock her in her face and leave her dead body in the dust on Korriban.
hi, im not sure u ever talk about it, and i just think about it, what do you think about the channel "unreal cinema" how try to make a kotor series ? (if this is not a scam), i don't think u ever talk about this subject
Tell me, have you ever heard the Tragedy of Darth Traya the Thinker? I suppose not. Its not a story Jedi or Sith would ever tell. Kreia was first a Jedi thousands of years ago, back when the Sith were still a thing. (I'll let you finish the rest)
Miraluka don't have eyes, they have flesh where their eyes should be. But he carves out holes where the eyes should be, metaphorically opening her eyes.
@@100StarWars Ahhh...that explains the gory image I saw in a comic years ago. I already knew they didn't have eyes, I just thought the sockets were vestigial.
Kotor 2 Mical wird von Keira manipuliert damit er Meetra Surik nicht verrät wer Sie vorher war. Mutter von Brianna (Keira sagt selbst Sie wäre zu alt für Freunde warum nicht auch für ihre eigenen Kinder).
The only thing that annoys me about kotor2, is that out of all the companions, mandalore should be force sensitive. I thought revan had that kind of power to inspire etc hanging out with him would somehow create a force connection in u. Plus with bastillas battle meditation, just thought it would have slowly made canderous force sensitive. Battle precognition etc Plus a mandalorian jedi would have been cool for the cutscenes with other mandalorians.
This is a bit backwards, Canderous is actually the least likely to be Force Sensitive. And no, he cannot "become" Force Sensitive, no matter how many Jedi he hangs out with. Revan did not create Force Bonds with people, apart from his one bond with Bastila, and no Jedi can actually "create Force Sensitivity" in another being. Not Revan nor Bastila. That's not how Force Sensitivity works at all. That's not even what the Exile does in KOTOR 2 with their companions either, to be accurate. Rather, the Exile had their connection to the Force completely broken by Malachor. They couldn't feel it all. Instead, they regain their connection to the Force by forming bonds with other Force sensitives. Hence why they form a bond with Kreia and why she theorises that the Exile can feel the Force through her, like a conduit. This also applies to the other party members you meet who can become Jedi, they all had Force potential and the Exile rebuilds their own connection to the Force by training and building these connections. Bao Dur learning to control his rage, the Disciple was the Exile's former padawan, the Handmaiden being the daughter of a Jedi (Arren Kai), Atton was practically trained as a Sith Assassin and Mira being able to attune to the sheer force of life on Nar Shadaa (she can literally feel the Living Force on Nar Shadaa like how Visas finds it overwhelming.) These are all extremely powerful connections to the Living Force; on Malachor, Kreia even calls all of these individuals "the Lost Jedi". But this does become rather sinister when you realise that the Exile isn't actually rebuilding their own connection to the Force, they're leeching off of others. This is why the Jedi Masters wanted to sever them completely on Dantooine. It's also why the Sith Assassins become more powerful with the Exile, they are doing the same thing through them. It's also why the Exile can absorb the Living Force from living beings. And it's why Nihilus nearly died trying to feed on the Exile. There was no Force Bond to feed on, it was like two black-holes trying to swallow each other. Canderous never had this type of connection to the Force and neither did Hanharr (he's in a life-debt, he's screwed anyway.) Canderous follows the Exile out of his past experiences with Revan, and the Mandalorians' previous experience with Jedi like Exar Khun. He doesn't have the same kind of connection to the Exile that the others do. He's there for his own ambition, to build Clan Ordo. The fact that we gain influence with him at all is part of the broader game mechanic. But notice how relatively shallow the influence system is with Mandalore, you don't get a lot out of him. Not like the Lost Jedi.
Visas Marr Already didn't have eyes Miraluka's uses Force sight cause They are born WITHout eyes. nice research bud, Nilius didn't do anything by removing her eyes. she already didn't have eyes.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be to mimic eyes. But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes explicitly, or should've been clearer in the metaphor of carving out her eyes.
T3-M4 and Exile: Die because SWTOR has to exist. Me: I HATE SWTOR and will never recognize it as canon in any form; not KOTOR 3 and until I get a KOTOR 3 the story stops at KOTOR 2. I'm serious by the way; damn though T3 and the Exile dying thru BS is just nonsense, I mean the Exile is pretty much on Revan's power level by KOTOR 2 and you expect me to believe that she was killed by some mid-range power level Sith. Nah not happening also nobody tanks a flamethrower to the face in Star Wars and walks it off. So yeah I mean no offense to fans of SWTOR but you are never going to get me to recognize it as canon even by EU standards its as dead to me as the Sequel Trilogy is along with the Vong War and Darth Caedus elements of Star Wars that I don't like will be forever regarded as non-canon in my humble opinion
The biggest issue in Kotor 2, the gender locked companions. Mikal is hands down the worst companion of the bunch. The least compelling story, and very creepy.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos But he wasn't her Padawan. He states that he'd picked her as his master, and left the order when she didn't return from the war. He then proceeds to be very condescending to the woman he wanted as a master, upon meeting her again. All the way around, pretty creepy guy. And honestly, not terribly useful, you get just as much value if you only barely brush past him and leave him behind in Khoonda.
Revan captured and Exile killed? What kind of a shitty fanfiction are you talking about here. There was no sequel to kotor 2 silly. Can you imagine the backlash if what you said here happened? Not on my watch
@@leventebardossy5962 books written by fat idiots have zero canonity, it's pure fanfiction made out of spite for Chris Avellone's superior work. I'm not gonna elaborate further
Have you been under a rock for the last 11 years? That's precisely what BioWare went with for the Old Republic MMO. 😂😂 Like it or not, that's their canon.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos SWTOR isn't any sort of canon, one of the writers for the game wrote the Entity and thought it was Kreia's spirit. Even JJ Abrams wouldn't fuck things up so royaly.
I set myself a challenge to make a 20+ minute KOTOR video in under 24 hours. So here is the result! What did you think? Be sure to let me know in the comments below! Also, if you wanna listen to me ramble about why Visas is KOTOR's best girl, come follow me on Twitter! - twitter.com/100PerStarWars
10/10
Loved it for sleeping and great knowledge when I was awake. 😅
It was pretty good. The only part that was missed was HK-47 being around until the Clone Wars. Of course he spent a lot of the time in a deactivated state.
ASMR?
What about the Remote dude! You forgot him 😋
“The first companion in KOTOR we ever meet, Carth Onasi.”
Trash Ulgo: Am I a joke to you?
Nothing about Trask was Tragic, so it was impossible to include him. He'll be front and center for the "1 Majestic FACT about Every KOTOR Companion" video though ;)
@@100StarWars though it would be a tragic thought to know that you sacrificed yourself for a rookie scavenger.
He wasn't really a companion. He was a tutorial bot.
I was thinking the same thing!
@@asraarradon4115 Yeah but you control him a LITTLE bit. You CAN'T get out the room without him.
Candurous needing to kill his wife or Bastila never knowing what happened to Revan I think is the most tragic
Canderous killing his wife is kinda meaningless within kotor 2 story if you turned revan to dark side
Canderous killed his wife for revan only for revan to beat the fk out of him
Even tho revan novel came out later i think
100%: "First up is the first companion we meet first:"
Me: "Wonder what he's got to say about Trask Ulgo, Ensign of the Republic Fleet."
100%: "Carth Onasi."
Me: "Oh..."
Hahahahaha
I think the most tragic moment in Kotor history is when the mass shadow generator was activated, so many people suffered because of that event. Everyone died, the Jedi exile lost all of her force bonds which led to an excruciating pain, Bao Dur suffered from immense guilt, it's where Canderous lost the war that he was destined to win and it was one of the turning points for Revan and Malak. But the most painful consequence out of all is that of Darth Nihilus, it is where his hunger was born, which consumed and tortured him and eventually entire planets.
I'm pretty sure it also created Darth Sion also. In kotor 2 at the sith academy I'm pretty sure he tells you that he awoke broken on that broken world with nothing but rage
@@tr8657 I thought so, but I didn't know for sure.
Little T3 goes out in a blaze of Glory roasting the Sith Emperor Vitiate.....What a guy!
The True Hero.
The saddest thing was that we never got a Kotor 3.
True dat haha
I think Carth's story gets so much worse if you romance him as Lady Revan. He finally opens up and finds another chance at love only to have her leave him behind and never return. 😢
At least it's a good thing he can't be made pregnant lol
Influence Lost: Kreia
Influence Gained: Kreia
I still play KOTOR 1 and 2 , 4 or 5 times a year
And since the Switch versions came out, it's given me replayability
Good man.
Yeah but you don't get mods
How dare you not mention the mega-chad Trask Ulgo who guides you on how to open chests and transfer your consciousness into different people temporarily!
Forgive me, Evan. For I have sinned.
@@100StarWars You are forgiven my son. Repent on your Sins and all shall be righted.
He was the jedi master we needed, but when the sith nation attacked he was killed in the endar spire....
I always had a crush on bastila, and somehow I imagined Kate Beckinsale as her in a live action movie, that prolly will never happen. Hyped for the remake and I hope to see the KOTOR story as a series of movies or just a Series. Dunno why Disney is sleeping on this, they would prolly change the story so much that it would be shit anyway.
I always imagine Naomi Scott personally!
@@100StarWars do you think it would be a great idea thats if Disney chooses to reboot the franchise that they should adapt the the Kotor trilogy (I’m including the original canceled Kotor III)
I didn’t realize visas marr had her eyes removed. I just assumed she was without eyes since she was miraluka
Right? Afaik her race didn't have eyes.
Miraluka have no eyes.
Nihilus removed the skin covering her eye sockets, I believe.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be to mimic eyes.
But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes explicitly.
@@100StarWars ahhhh I see. I think that’s actually more f’ed up than if she had eyes for him to tear out. Creepy.
Those games are my favorite Star Wars game..hell 20 years ago playing them on the OG Xbox
Same here. I'm playing the second one again right now.
The video: "prepare for sad T3 fact. Its a tough one"
Me: *cries upon hearing Vode An in the background*
Haha
T3-M4 at least got the last laugh in the end, considering Vitiate's final fate.
Poor little prince T3 😢
Good idea to include them all into one video. Great work Luke!
He's a poor baby 🥲
Awesome job with this video man 😎👍🏼. I have to say my top 4 favorite companions on this video list is Carth, Atton, Bastila, and Brianna. I’ll admit, I used to have a bit of a crush on Brianna back in High School lol 😂. I just hope that one day we have more interaction with every companion in a KOTOR 3.
I wish i could of unlocked *hk-47 memories of what happened to Revan
Pretty sure you've got Zalbaar's timeline a little switched up.
He attacked his brother, then tries to explain himself to his father. Dad doesn't believe him, and declares Zalbaar a MadClaw.
After Zalbaar is off planet, his brother is able to take power, declare their father a MadClaw, and drive Dad to the surface.
Also I had NO idea about Canderous’s story… his wife led Ordo, he was betrayed, he remained a “loyal beast” to Revan as kreia stated wow…
A loyal beast indeed...
Lena cared for Mission a bit, she offered to buy her ticket for passage but Griff said no.
Have to say that the Revan-Emperor fight in the Revan novel was almost anticlimactic bc their defeat was so total.
"The very first companion, Carth Onasi"
The most tragic fact is that he forgot Trask Ulgo.
"Ah.. the smell of decay and desperate living.."
Atton Rand
The sad-est moment of the whole thing is, they didn't make the KotOR 2 as it should have been... and even 18 year later, even though it was announced multiple times and all, for example, the Nintendo Switch version hasn't gotten that version of it... aka there's still no DLC for that.
I was thinking about your videos and whatta know??? New video!!!! Great 😌
The force works in mysterious ways ;)
The fact they were all wasted in The Old Republic mmo
Facts
Only Revan and HK-47 actually appear tbf, and the Exile. They weren't handled amazingly well, I will admit. Especially the Exile. But at least it was set far enough in the future that the rest of the cast were all dead.
And for clarity, no, I don't consider that weird Force Ghost thing to be Kreia. That was the writing team being really quite thick and no KOTOR 2 fan appreciated the suggestion at all.
"Let's start this video with the very first companion we meet in KOTOR."
Trask!?!?
Ich denke ich spreche für viele wenn ich sage das ich mir gewünscht hätte das Keira sehen köntte, wie die Republik und Jedi verändert. Insbesondere Omama Keira spricht zu Vaner Shan und erzählt ihm über seinen Vater (selbstredent einige Lügen) aber am interessanten wäre es zu sehen ob Sie erkennen wie er seinem Vater ähnlich ist.
I was crushed when I read about what happened to T3M4.
Nice Video.
I totally didn't skip straight to the Visas part :D
What exactly do you mean by "he even had her eyes removed" ?
Visas is Miraluka, her species never had any eyes. O_o
Miraluka "see" (for the lack of better therm) trough the Force, and that is sight that was "damaged" for Visas by Nihilus ... bcs he forced his own vision of the Galaxy on her ...
Technically Kreia is using the same techique ...
And Visas can teach you to do that aswell.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be. Essentially... carving out her eyes metaphorically.
But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes as it could have been misinterpreted!
Visas Marr was a Miralukan, and can see through the Force. She didn't have eyes to start with. The species is born without eyes. So she had no eyes to take from her.
HK-47 actually lived up until at least the Clone Wars.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be. Carving out her eyes metaphorically.
@100% Star Wars Here is how I would have said it. Visas Marr was a Miralukan, and that she had no eyes, but she did have eye sockets. And Nihilus, I forgot how to spell the name, took what had grown over the sockets to make holes like she had eyes. As a symbol that he took her eyes.
@@PoeticTwist🤓
The most tragic event was turning on the mass shadow generator weapon since it kickstarted so many events and caused so much pain.
Killing Kreia is second. I know she was happy and fulfilled but I wish there was an option to save her. Just because her teachings are passed it doesn't mean there is no more future for her. She didn't need to repent for her sins, but the love she had for Exile and admiration for Revan could have been something to push her further. Perhaps there would be a way to slightly redeem her by saving Revan and Exile in a theoretical Kotor 3?
Such an amazing teacher gone while the new era for the jedi starts is just such a waste
Great video bro!!
Thanks dude!
Your incredible dude I love these videos
100% never misses with KOTOR videos.
😎
100% Star Wars gonna go 100k soon enough!
Hey, maybe if T3 didn't attack me, he would still be here. He chose his fate.
Shut up, Vitiate. Nobody likes you after what you did to T3
Justice for T3!!!
You forgot the most tragic Trask Ulgo
Honestly Most tragic is Meetra Surik's fate, she's not given the same respect as Revan despite being infinitely more interesting
Debatable
She also gave her life to protect revan
@@toma.4808 didn't really matter in the end.
I mean I'd argue Revan is a great deal more interesting, maybe not from a Kotor 1 vs Kotor 2 standpoint, but when taking all lore into account from the Old Republic era, Revan is significantly more interesting.
I would love to see a movie of revan after kotor
Jolee Bindo (er hat vermutlich überlebt) nach Kotor 2 erhält besuch von Atris und die beiden leben zusammen, lange Unterhaltungen einfache Feldarbeit, Jagt und Spaziergänge.
It took a Sith Emperor to kill T3-M4, and he went out like a warrior. Canderous would be proud.
Carth's fate might get worse depending on how you treat his son, let alone how you align.
Won't count the Bastila one, for I'm discounting TOR, and also thinking about the Dark Side routes (and also the Light Side routes where you kill her, but alas, KotOR II doesn't have a save system).
Same with T3's. I prefer him having an ambiguous fate.
Canderous' fate, even if TOR-centered, sure makes Boba Fett's life feel more heavenly.
Am surprised you didn't talk about the vague possibility that Juhani died on Katarr.
You're right, HK-47 is simply tragedy(maker) incarnate.
love this game, and in turn love this channel
T3-M4 war ursprünglich Eigentum von David Kang ebenso wie der Ebenholz Falke. Legen wir eine Schweigeminute ein für David Kang dem wir diesen Begleiter und dieses Schiff zu verdanken haben.
T3 is a chad and I will hear nothing against that little rust bucket... he was a force to be reckoned with and I like to think T3 had transferred his memory into the Hawk before going to fight Vitiate
Waiting patiently for the Mand’alor video
So this is kind of unrelated but seems like as good a place as any to mention it but I remember thinking on my first play through of kotor 2 that jedi woman that atton encountered was erin kai and I know there's the theory of kriea being erin kae and I that one makes sense too I don't even know if the time line lines up for that jedi to be her but that's what I thought of when hearing that story for the first time
Sadly the timelines wouldn't quite match.
I don't remember that necessarily being alluded to regarding Atton and Arren Kai, and Atton was pretty damn insistent on "I murdered her!" hence why her ALSO being Kreia wouldn't make sense.
To me, Kreia being Arren Kai has more traction given that it would make sense if this was her persona when she was a Jedi, she fell to the Dark Side and became Traya. Not to mention, the story that she fell in love with an Echani warlord and begat Brianna certainly lines up with her unorthodox philosophy. Plus, she certainly treats the Handmaiden VERY differently to the rest of the cast.
Of course, it's equally likely they are two completely different characters. 😂😂
Id say either T3, Meetra, or Bastila. None of them deserved their fates, Meetra and T3’s sacrifices were in vain and Bastila never got closer
The most tragic for me is that i can never replay it (since i remember everything all too much and there's nothing new waiting for me there)
Ooooooo. Looking forward to that big video
Patience is a virtue.
You are a good SW channel among many hack frauds. There, I said it.
Haha, Thank you.
The Book of droids tell a different story for HK-47 & Goto. The comics and The Old Republic have a different story for Carth, Bastila, Atton, Mira, Bao Durr, Mical, Brianna, and Visas. Visas Marr eyes wasn't removed, she a Miraluka, Miraluka are a force sensitive species born without eyes, they "All" see through the force.T3 was right
1:15 how could you do Trask like that? 😢
My God... These were sad. Some of these I had no idea about. Like GO-TO was a DROID!? I thought he just used that to talk to the Exile.
Also I had a massive crush on Mission cause, at the time, she was older than me. Lol.
I must admit, it did take me ages to get the "You ARE the droid I'm looking for!" achievement on Steam. But damn, maxing influence With G0T0 really recontextualises soooooo much of the game. The Restoration Project, the Exchange, the bounty and all those HK-50s, plus his actions on Malachor. It's crazy!
kotor is kinda tragic especially when you find out what happens to revan and Meetra Surik
Another fact about Carth. When he died, he was reincarnated as a human named Kaiden Alenko
I didn’t now that about Atton… that’s rough
Kotor is perfect star wars
Amen
Now I'm no expert, but I thought the Mandalorian's revered and respected Revan - not down right hated him. That isn't to say you can't respect someone but dislike them, but the Mandalorian's are all about honor in battle and whatnot.
Some people tend to hate the characters who are mean to their guy. Who remembers the forums when the game was released should remember that Kreia actually came back from being one of the characters most hated by thin-skinned players.
The NPCs, like Vrook and Belaya, have it worse, but I found both of their stories tear-jerkingly tragic. It all depends on how badly your guy mishandles the situation due to malice or otherwise, and it's often not canonical.
Vrook, but especially Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell, are just in the middle of it all while their world is being destroyed, stuck in their ways and unable to escape it. You can either be the one who hunts them down, like an assassin, or watches how they fail to measure up to what the galaxy needs.
Belaya, on the other, resembles Yuthura in that she, too, may leave the Jedi, and she'll do the wrong thing for the right reason: she'll go from loving someone to hating you for what you did. Then you can mock her in her face and leave her dead body in the dust on Korriban.
How is Saul Karath on the Ebon Hawk talking to Carth like their friends??? Did I miss something? That never happened when I played the game 🤯🤯🤯
Magick
Carth the FIRST kotor companion?! This is Trask Erasure. You guys must be on opposite shifts
Can't believe you left out trask
Poor t3, I remember reading the Revan book and being thoroughly annoyed at that books ending chapters.
hi, im not sure u ever talk about it, and i just think about it, what do you think about the channel "unreal cinema" how try to make a kotor series ? (if this is not a scam), i don't think u ever talk about this subject
I covered it a couple of years ago when it was announced! Seems to have gone dormant though.
Actually the entire SW universe is dark and sad and tragic.
True dat
Tell me, have you ever heard the Tragedy of Darth Traya the Thinker?
I suppose not.
Its not a story Jedi or Sith would ever tell.
Kreia was first a Jedi thousands of years ago, back when the Sith were still a thing.
(I'll let you finish the rest)
Miraluka are born without eyes, so Nihilus didn't take the eyes of Visas Marr
100% Star Wars: Let's start wirj the first.companion . . .
Me: Trask
100% Star Wars: Kaidan Alenko!
Me: . . . Ok, i guess 😭.
Nice
What abt trask??
You need to play 2 again, Visas didn’t have her eyes removed by her former master.
I've replied to many comments that I made a mistake in the specific wording.
I love kotor content but now I’m depressed af😭😭 why can’t they all be happy ugh
Then my job here is done :P
What never lived cannot die
Carth wasn’t truly the first if you don’t recall
Miralukans don't have eyes. They have skin over their shallow empty sockets
T3-M4 dies?? ;(
What about Trask?!?
#ript3
Aren't Miraluka already blind?
Also, the most tragic moment of KOTOR is that Trask Ulgo wasn't included in this video.
Miraluka don't have eyes, they have flesh where their eyes should be. But he carves out holes where the eyes should be, metaphorically opening her eyes.
@@100StarWars Ahhh...that explains the gory image I saw in a comic years ago. I already knew they didn't have eyes, I just thought the sockets were vestigial.
Kotor 2 Mical wird von Keira manipuliert damit er Meetra Surik nicht verrät wer Sie vorher war. Mutter von Brianna (Keira sagt selbst Sie wäre zu alt für Freunde warum nicht auch für ihre eigenen Kinder).
Please narrate my life :)
For real 🤭
:O
What so Kreia was graped? Or went through body harassment?
It could be a conclusion one comes to based on her wording.
@@100StarWars ewww ..... Like don't do that shiii to nobody but why her outta all people tf 🤢
The only thing that annoys me about kotor2, is that out of all the companions, mandalore should be force sensitive. I thought revan had that kind of power to inspire etc hanging out with him would somehow create a force connection in u. Plus with bastillas battle meditation, just thought it would have slowly made canderous force sensitive. Battle precognition etc
Plus a mandalorian jedi would have been cool for the cutscenes with other mandalorians.
This is a bit backwards, Canderous is actually the least likely to be Force Sensitive. And no, he cannot "become" Force Sensitive, no matter how many Jedi he hangs out with.
Revan did not create Force Bonds with people, apart from his one bond with Bastila, and no Jedi can actually "create Force Sensitivity" in another being. Not Revan nor Bastila. That's not how Force Sensitivity works at all. That's not even what the Exile does in KOTOR 2 with their companions either, to be accurate. Rather, the Exile had their connection to the Force completely broken by Malachor. They couldn't feel it all. Instead, they regain their connection to the Force by forming bonds with other Force sensitives. Hence why they form a bond with Kreia and why she theorises that the Exile can feel the Force through her, like a conduit.
This also applies to the other party members you meet who can become Jedi, they all had Force potential and the Exile rebuilds their own connection to the Force by training and building these connections. Bao Dur learning to control his rage, the Disciple was the Exile's former padawan, the Handmaiden being the daughter of a Jedi (Arren Kai), Atton was practically trained as a Sith Assassin and Mira being able to attune to the sheer force of life on Nar Shadaa (she can literally feel the Living Force on Nar Shadaa like how Visas finds it overwhelming.) These are all extremely powerful connections to the Living Force; on Malachor, Kreia even calls all of these individuals "the Lost Jedi". But this does become rather sinister when you realise that the Exile isn't actually rebuilding their own connection to the Force, they're leeching off of others. This is why the Jedi Masters wanted to sever them completely on Dantooine. It's also why the Sith Assassins become more powerful with the Exile, they are doing the same thing through them. It's also why the Exile can absorb the Living Force from living beings. And it's why Nihilus nearly died trying to feed on the Exile. There was no Force Bond to feed on, it was like two black-holes trying to swallow each other.
Canderous never had this type of connection to the Force and neither did Hanharr (he's in a life-debt, he's screwed anyway.) Canderous follows the Exile out of his past experiences with Revan, and the Mandalorians' previous experience with Jedi like Exar Khun. He doesn't have the same kind of connection to the Exile that the others do. He's there for his own ambition, to build Clan Ordo. The fact that we gain influence with him at all is part of the broader game mechanic. But notice how relatively shallow the influence system is with Mandalore, you don't get a lot out of him. Not like the Lost Jedi.
Im the real exile
Visas Marr Already didn't have eyes Miraluka's uses Force sight cause They are born WITHout eyes. nice research bud, Nilius didn't do anything by removing her eyes. she already didn't have eyes.
I wasn't sure how to articulate the actuality. But there was like... flesh where her eyes should have been. Nihilus then basically carved that flesh out, leaving gaping holes where her eyes would be to mimic eyes.
But in hindsight I shouldn't have said eyes explicitly, or should've been clearer in the metaphor of carving out her eyes.
@@100StarWarsThats how the Miraluka's look .
T3-M4 and Exile: Die because SWTOR has to exist.
Me: I HATE SWTOR and will never recognize it as canon in any form; not KOTOR 3 and until I get a KOTOR 3 the story stops at KOTOR 2.
I'm serious by the way; damn though T3 and the Exile dying thru BS is just nonsense, I mean the Exile is pretty much on Revan's power level by KOTOR 2 and you expect me to believe that she was killed by some mid-range power level Sith. Nah not happening also nobody tanks a flamethrower to the face in Star Wars and walks it off. So yeah I mean no offense to fans of SWTOR but you are never going to get me to recognize it as canon even by EU standards its as dead to me as the Sequel Trilogy is along with the Vong War and Darth Caedus elements of Star Wars that I don't like will be forever regarded as non-canon in my humble opinion
If Disney was smart, they’d start a tv show with this and get a new trilogy out of it.
The biggest issue in Kotor 2, the gender locked companions. Mikal is hands down the worst companion of the bunch. The least compelling story, and very creepy.
He has potential on paper, just wish he was a bit more... Bitter. He was the Exile's former padawan and was left high and dry.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos But he wasn't her Padawan. He states that he'd picked her as his master, and left the order when she didn't return from the war. He then proceeds to be very condescending to the woman he wanted as a master, upon meeting her again. All the way around, pretty creepy guy. And honestly, not terribly useful, you get just as much value if you only barely brush past him and leave him behind in Khoonda.
Revan captured and Exile killed? What kind of a shitty fanfiction are you talking about here.
There was no sequel to kotor 2 silly. Can you imagine the backlash if what you said here happened?
Not on my watch
It's written in the book Revan by Drew Karpyshyn. It did happen. It's as much canon as KOTOR is.
@@leventebardossy5962 books written by fat idiots have zero canonity, it's pure fanfiction made out of spite for Chris Avellone's superior work. I'm not gonna elaborate further
Have you been under a rock for the last 11 years? That's precisely what BioWare went with for the Old Republic MMO. 😂😂 Like it or not, that's their canon.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos SWTOR isn't any sort of canon, one of the writers for the game wrote the Entity and thought it was Kreia's spirit. Even JJ Abrams wouldn't fuck things up so royaly.
Carth's tragic fact is that he was boring.
Mission is annoying
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Alot of choices in this world and you chose to be wrong lol. She's nice and always is thinking of others