1987 Porsche 944s: Regular Car Reviews
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- We review the over-hyped under-powered middle-child of the Porsche 944, the 944s. This hunk of self-congratulatory populism can't move under the weight of all its fanboys and white knights. The 944 is a victim of it's own fandom
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"It sounds terrible"
In POV test drive:
"It sounds nice"
Yeah he's roasting it to annoy people who get offended easily and make others...laugh?
I really don't get how this is funny at all
@@spacekii it isn't. I don't think any of us actually like this channel.
Retro Lad You are exactly the type of person he’s making fun of
Hazztech So you only like a channel Annually? 🤔
@@GTChucker86 sodium off the charts here
Damn, I think this is the most savage tearing you've ever given a car.
Probably. He was rough with the S2000 too. But it has to be, it wouldn't matter if we didn't care about the car.
Agreed! I was astonished, haha.
Honda S2000 and SRT4 neon were rather savage as well. I'll be honest, I found the first S2000 review more funny than the 2nd one even if he had a point but, Mr Regular is Mr Regular.
I can't find everything he does funny. But a lot of his stuff is funny. I do find this funny although I was expecting a Hunter S Thompson impression again.
He sounds so very, frustrated and disappointed with the car. Not to mention as made clear as day, why it's got a fandom like it does compared to other cars.
I can't say anything for it's fandom because I have no idea.
There was also the VW Jetta that he also hated.
Rossriders S2k wasn't as much hating the car as the driver, this one hates the car ALOT
Nah, it was the Avenger that got the worse of Mr. Regular's ridicule.
Dudes raised the gearing 15% with the wheels
Haha
True, most people never think about that.
This is literally the 1 reason he hates the car lmao, find a stock one with the 14 inch phone dials and I'm sure you'll have a good time.
@@setha7781 >14 inch phone dials
had me on the floor laughing hahahahaha
Being honest stock cars had high enough profile tires that this car looks like the arches have similar fill to stock.
So much anger.. SO MUCH
It’s because that car sucks. It sucked when it was new. It sucks now.
@@2steaksandwiches665 sounds like you’ve never driven one
Blessings
Matthew 23: 37-40Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me./inspiration+ This passage is generally used to help people understand our role as Christians towards the "hungry," "thirsty, "naked," "sick," and imprisoned people in our world . It should note that everyone of these situations was experienced by Christ Himself, though at the particular moment, He is speaking prophetically. He explains that every kind of thing we do for people (in this case, His "brothers" or disciples) is the equivalent of doing the same for Christ. It is a call to us to be kind to the Christ in others, to treat others as the embodiment of Christ Himself. We might see a homeless man begging for food on the street and turn our heads when we walk by, forgetting that Christ Himself was homeless. If we knew this homeless man t o be Christ, we would certainly not turn away. Jesus reminds us that the homeless man is Christ. If we take these words to heart, as well as the passage that follows them, we will change our attitude towards people in need and treat them as if we were treating Christ in need./prayer+ Lord Jesus, help me to see everyone in Your image. When I see someone sick, hungry, or in need, let me help them as if I were helping You. Remind me everyday of this parable, so that I might never turn a blind eye to someone in need. Amen.
I don't mean to be facetious but I think it all faded away when he met 944 autocrossing Stef Schrader...
"I put giant wheels on it because Porsche didn't know what they were doing"
Eric Leippe looks great! what size wheels, tires an offset front and rear!
I'm sure it had something to do with it not wanting to turn in. Porsche relied on chassis tuning not wide tires.
I like it, it looks better than any modern porsche
you dont know and apparently have no track time 2.5 can reach 145 hmm millinal i see dont know how to shift without hitting limiter
Of course; Germans never have a clue as to what harm they cause.
"but then when the miata did came"
I was wondering if anyone else caught that, lol
Ben and now you know what verb agreement is... also, why am I awake?
RegularCars Thanks for the free English lesson Mr. Regular! Also, why are you awake?
Ben *did come
RegularCars can you reveiw the lexus gs300 next
Those wheels prob. zapped 50hp.
😂😂😂😂
that rolling resistance xD
DanTheBavarian also they’re way bigger than stock
@The USS Johnston Disabled the caps? Some people type on real keyboards and not phones. Some people also know how to use punctuation and don't look like a dingus with their long, run-on sentences.
I have an 88 944S. I have to say, at the end when it showed you doing that highway "pull", there MUST be something wrong dude, that tachometer was crawling its way up to first and through second. Seriously, try another one. Perhaps, an 88 like mine that ACTUALLY has the updated modern interior, and doesn't have Autozone 20inch wheels on it
My old boss had an 944s and it was a, fantastic car
The guy who did this test..is a prize DICK HEAD!!!!
Bansheeflyr thats what im saying he was bashing a car that’s nice as fuck... I’d love to own one of these they look amazing! The best looking PORSCHE yeah I said what I said! And you are one lucky man to have this car congrats!
As a fellow 88 944S owner I can say this review is a joke
@@Irelius I have one too and it makes me laugh the review I like the humor not taking it seriously. I just painted mine a hot red. People ask me questions give me compliments and I’d get offers right away if I wanted to sell it. In the 90s I bought a Mazda rx7 because it looked like a 944 because I could not afford one then. Now I have my 944 like I wanted for decades. Weirdly now I also want another rx7
Is there a chance its handling was ruined by those oversized, tacky wheels?
handling and the gearing
It will pull 1.0 Gs in a turn. What do you want?
@@jockellis not with those tires it won't
brandon casey Don’t know what size wheels those are but Porsche put out a technical bulletin warning against mounting 18-inch rims.
These things actually handle great
i would buy this Porsche just for the looks tbqh
tho i'd still take a 91' S13 over this, it'd probably be cheaper and it has more power
Violent Synth what? no. S13's have been fucked in the ass by drift tax. they're like 8k for a beat to shit s13 in my area, and you can pick up a clean NA 944 for like 2-3k. and plus I'm pretty sure a 944 turbo is faster than an SR20DET S13.
coli 1. i don't live in america
2. i didn't say it would be faster, but a 1991 SR20DET S13 has 20 more hp than the 944s
Violent Synth i never said I lived in America. and you're compared a top of the line s13 to a mid/low line 944.
coli I don't know where you live, but in germany a clean 944s will cost you 15k, whereas a clean DET (either 175 or 202hp) S13 will cost you about 5k
I'm sure the up-sized wheels don't help with that feel.
Eh. Still buying one.
Do it, you wont regret it.
So it's been a year what the word. Feel like you should've just gotten a Miata? Or did you luck out with a good deal and are happy with it?
Woule be neat to know
UPDATE NOW
944 over hyped? By whom? Those wheels won't be helping with acceleration.. Turbo ones have earned their rep though.
chipchip those wheels are light...
It is pretty slow stock though
Yeah but they are massive.
what im saying
chipchip ....
I don't even know how to tell you how stupid you sound
Wheels barely effect acceleration that much especially because of how terrible the power and weight is in this thing
It's shit
Yes you CAN probably get a better set of wheels
Tire compound will effect a WHOLE lot more than the fucking wheels
It has the effect of gearing up the car
regularcars needs to drive a 911 of the same era.
And then a 911 Turbo S. *MY FACE LOOKS LIKE THIS WHEN I HAVE SEX* .
YETICOPTER he drove a Porsche 911 SC
What sane person would drive a 911 of that era?. Its only going to get you killed really
do the math on what those stupid diameter wheels do to the final drive ratio. like changing from 3.73 to 3.10, at least. stock gave decent 0-60 for the era. just wait, wait, wait for the cams to come on and stay above 4500.
My thoughts exactly. Those stupid wheels didn't help the performance. My '87 was a pos, but keeping the revs up would unleash the beast. After replacing the intermediate timing chain tensioner in the head, I actually drove it with the intake cam a tooth off for a while. That was definitely slow as f**k.
Doesn't go fast? Extra long pulls between gears? Those 23" rims aren't helping matters.
My 944 Turbo was a riot..... until the timing belt snapped on the highway going 120kms an hour..
Still dont get having a belt unless the engine is a non interference motor
I had just taken a long trip on the interstate with my GF in mine, we finally get back into my home town and the belt snaps at Taco Bell. Absolutely fucked the cylinder head. I'm so fucking glad I wasn't still on the interstate.
@Jay Barker the sudden change in sound of valves hitting pistons can be scary going that fast just like when your piston decides it would much rather be outside the engine rather than inside
You have to change the timing belt every 10k miles or so
@@CLK944 (cue Borat's voice) you kid, right ?
Mr.Regular is over-hyped, a victim of his own fandom.
jamal willson These days maybe, but go watch the older seasons if you haven't already. His reviews used to be more about people, culture and philosophy. Cars were just the vehicle for that
I've been following Mr.Regular since the dawn of his empire, I'm just busting his balls because of my bias toward the 944 my 83' was amazing. yes it wasn't very fast but hey it was never intended to be an autobahn monster that's the 911's job, but they're every bit as fast and rev happy as a Miata. having owned both my 944 would beat the 1.8l Miata in the 1/4 all day, on actual roads with corners the Miata cant be beat but will be kept up with and its also 400 pounds lighter with a lower center of gravity so yeah... The main reason I hold the 944 and even the 924(even though they are a waste of metal) in such high regard is because they were supposed to be the "every-man" porsche, a bridge in the gap inviting us all to indulge in something thought only for the wealthy. Mr.Regular didn't touch on this at all he let the small things stop him from at least appreciating the fact that this car was a pivotal point for the Porsche brand. Plus If we wanna get into cars that have been over hyped the Miata takes the cake, I would expect a stock NA to run circles around most F1 cars with how much those hairdresser can talk up there handling ability.
jamal willson I agree with everything you said, I love my NA6 but Miata's really are very overhyped. it's a great handling/direct car and it has a great chassis, but it's not a god like car or anything that people like to make it out to be. It's just a little compact rwd Japanese car that's fun to toss around
jamal willson he really took a massive shit on the 944, I don't think it deserved to be slammed that hard lol
Mr Regular is also a bit timid when it comes to actual driving. I'm sure this particular car's giant heavy aftermarket rims and tires aren't doing it any favors in the handling department. I've driven 3-4 944s on stock rims and tires, and they were wonderful.
I've owned one, and it is one of the best handling car I've ever driven. It has a perfect 50/50 weight ratio, with the engine in front, and transmission in rear. It might not have been the fastest Porsche, but it could wipe the floor with a Corvette on back roads.
My '87 S was definitely underpowered, but it handled amazingly well. Would have preferred the Turbo model.
100 percent!
Needs any other vw audi engine dropped in.. imagine one with a vr or 1.8t or 2.7t or 4.2
A stock 944 with the right wheels handles on rails. The turbo model is fast. You'd have to drive the turbo model do get the full experience. The NA is lackluster but still nice, just no oomph. Starion would have been the cooler car to go with at the time imo because of its uniqueness. The turbo Starion had some sick ass seatbelts too.
You couldn't pay me enough money to own a 30 year old turbocharged German car.
Mine is 88 too I like it a too much I can’t sell so I think the video is very funny 😆 it’s funny good.
My 3.0 S2 says hello. *waves
I'm always surprised to hear the Starion mentioned, since I have ever only seen one once in my entire life. They must not have brought many to Canada.
Those wheels are stupid, this car was never designed to run rims this big. All these wheels do is they ruin the handling.
+thedog556 Bigger wheels are heavier (more momentum) + these tyres are definitely not 185mm or what width Porsche used back in the 80's as their standard wheels. I just changed my 225mm wide 17'' summer wheels for 195mm 15'' winter wheels and the car drives better, more driver friendly.
The 944s owner did make the handling worse, as the car was never build/tuned for such wheels. That is the reason the presenter is complaining about turning. Put original size wheels on the car and it will get much better.
In racing, grip is everything, but if you don't have a vehicle that could benefit from it, then all you do with more grip, is you ruin your MPG and handling + put more stress on the car itself.
It's the difference in unsprung weight that ruins the handling. Not the tire wall.
+thedog556 We are talking a about 80's Porsche here. All the wide tyres do, is heavy steering and put more stress on the drivetrain, brakes and suspension system.
Also, look at 80's Ferrari cars, they do not run wheels you are talking of. The key with wheels is to have as light wheels as possible and air does not weight a thing (in comparison with the rest of the car), unlike the alloy wheels.
Also, there is a huge difference between the tyre grip and downforce generated grip. That is why wheels of racing cars got smaller over the years.
TL;DR: I'm not bullshiting you, I drive a Mercedes-Benz w202 and as I was saying, 30mm width difference in tyres affects the handling alot. The 944s in the video has even greater tyre width difference.
Googling around, the 944s should run 215/60/15 tyres. In the video those look like 19 inch, so we'd be talking about anything between 235 to 265 mm width. That is a HUGE diference in amount of rubber (weight) and grip (the crap I was talking about before). If you want to go even further, then the power steering system was also not designed to move wheels of this width, grip.
***** Try something a bit more comparable, like the GTS, that ran nothing bigger than 17'' rims. Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you. Buy a car, try the difference yourself.
thedog556 Philip is right. Those tires just ruin the handling of the car. Bigger doesn't mean better. I had a Mk2 gti and buddy of mine had one was well. I had 15 inch and 195 wide. They weren't that big. My buddy had 17 and a bit wider. When I drove his car it felt real sluggish and just didn't feel right. And we both had the same suspension. He drove my car and he couldn't believe how much better my car took the corners. He put on his stock wheels which where the same size as mine. As well as my E46 M3. I went from 20 inch rims down to 18 inch rims. The car feels far better and is more nimble. I used the 20 inch rims just for show.
Have we found a car more hated by Mr. Regular than the Wolfsberg edition Jetta?
possible, but only Mr regular can say for sure.
TwilightTheShooter exit's on the left brony
MEXICO!
XD my brother owns a wolfsberg edition jetta
kyubey, what does that have to do with his comment? So he has an MLP character as his avatar. I do too. Doesn't mean he or I can't be here.
This just convinces me that Mr regular hates good cars and loves bad ones
Or maybe you can't look past your own fandom. His grievances are sound on this car. He makes solid comparisons to other cars that are more capable and you can get for cheaper so why bother with this.
Smugglerscomedy plymouth horizon
Probably bcuz there are NO good cars when it comes to Germans.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH, SNAP ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏻👌🏻
@@GIGABACHI Unenlightened peasant.
Originally the 944 S had 15'' wheels (215/60 VR 15). If you put giant ferris wheels on it, you stretch the gear transmission ratio too wide. If your shoe size is 8 you don't run well in size 13 boots.
I'm sad to hear such a mean review of a car I own and love :'(
Alas, my spirits are lifted: Mine is not the S, and as such has a much shorter gearing. And 30 less hp, but we won't mention that.
I've raced this car and it holds up real well to endurance racing like 24 hours of Lemons. It's a shitty Porsche, but it's still a Porsche. I wouldn't expect someone to "get it" tooling around town, which is what RCR is all about. Emphasis on the "regular"
lemons grow on trees, the race is in Le Mans
www.24hoursoflemons.com/
Its lemons...
It's not. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_Le_Mans
944 has fandom and over-hype? I didn't know that, I always knew it as "a porsche for broke guys."
"A porsche for broke guy and it doesn't look like a porsche"
That was my godfather always told me and he own an old 1975 Targa.
To us waterpumper people the 911 looks like a beetle. This comes from someone with 2 928s :)
MrSlowestD16 porsche por broke guys but maintencence isn't the slightest cheap and parts are becoming harder to source
isn't the boxster the one for broke guys?
The Poorsche. And yes, the Boxter is the new Porsche for poor people.... there's one parked outside on the street down the road from me..., drives year round even in snow.
Not sure if RCR's are joking about the 944 being a non race car, but this had 50/50 weight distribution and one of the best handling car in its day.
Yeah, so does the BMW e60 sedan...race car?I think not
@@spitzerlass2684 that's a weird way to say an M5 wasn't good on the track.
@@trevor557 the m5 is an e60, the top sport model. The e60 has an entire range of 2l to 5.5l engines as well as diesel options. My point is 50/50 distribution is standard on a lot of non serious business cars,so that's no argument. Besides,the e60 m5 is a muscle car that is capable on track but no race/track car by any stretch.
I also think it's important to remember that stock consumer cars and their respective race versions often have very little in common other than body panels. I don't know jack about the 944 race variants, but I have to imagine that the 944 race car was modified and tuned to eliminate the shortcomings Mr. Regular found.
@@spitzerlass2684 Bit of a false equivalency; the E60 is a hefty sedan, the 944 is a small 2+2 coupe. Not only that, the turbo version was pretty fast, and are/were often used as "budget" track cars. Calling the 944 a race car isn't that much of a stretch.
the 944 is such a handsome car
Next time driving any 944, Open diff or not, drive in a tight corner, punch down the throttle and youll understand what its all about. It doesnt slide, it grips up tightening the turn even further with a touch of oversteer. Those rims arent helping anything except looks as it seems to be about 2-3 inches in radius larger than stock. Drive a 944 without power steering and AC, just a completely basic one. And Im sure you will understand. Also, is that a Japs muffler?
I must say the owner of this Porsche has made some weird decisions.. But hey, if he likes it, I like it.
You know what also does that? A Miata
Bambi the Miata And?
and a Miata isnt a fucking Porsche
mcspikesky Lol All I did was saying what Regular shouldve done and then Bambis like BUTTT THEE MIAAATAA.
Well guess what, the Miata isnt bad, but so aint the Porsche. Why the Porsche is racing? Its proving time to time to be faster than most. Its not over-hyped, the 911 of the time is. Yknow when Porsche realized that the 944 would be too fast with the Porsche 928 V8 and conquer out the 911 so they went with half the V8.
+mcspikesky yes it is
944s are all about the 50:50 weight distribution with the rear mounted gearbox, that's why they made great race cars
xXGeitzXx And then the Miata happened.
944 is a good base to make a race car, but the road car was never a fan favorite.
Then ya stick a turbo in it...and have lots of fun in the acres of brown.
then ya stick a toyota 1uz V8 in it. mmhmhhhhmmmmmuuuggrrh
then you stick a ls1 and it fixes everything. ask all import owners that do the swap
Love these cars, but the wheel/tire combo looks weird on that one.
looks like shite
could also be a reason why it's geared longer, because bigger tire size
could go with smaller diameter wheels and tires to get it a little closer to the ground.
I dig it! Looks nice.
oh my god those wheels are a fucking tragedy
I bet those wheels weigh a freaking TON too. that 2.5L is likely struggling hard to get it moving because of it lol
Down a size or two, please.
SPNKr or five
and they're black.. it would be cool if the wheels were the same color as the valve cover
My favorite car is reviewed and he slanders it :(
I know the feeling. My favorite car is the 300zx Z32
Hey.. I love the RX-8 and he essentially attacked my person for loving it!
Why does it matter what he says if you already have an opinion?
tuukka aro I merely commented. .. I didn't proclaim anything..
Justin Nguyen it's okay. My favorite cars, an LS1 4th-gen F-body, is one of Matt Farah's least like cars. I still like Matt though. Not everyone is going to like what you like.
alright Mr. Regular. im going to ask you a question....why 4 am? why post every video at 4 am? Just. why. Nothing regular about that. Now I have to watch it and not be able to sleep the rest of the night. are you happy now?
Mike BOULOS T I M E Z O N E S
Ricer Tropos Except hey guess what Mr Regular lives in Pennsylvania WHERE ITS ALWAYS 4 AM WHEN HE UPLOADS so the timezone thing is beat.
Ricer Tropos I assume Mr. Reg is EST and this vid is up at 4am EST. that'd be 1am PST and 10am Paris Time.
Mike BOULOS 10 in the morning in mainland EU seems reasonable..
it was posted at midnight my time.....
Just saying, the problem with the transmission as you put it is probably partly due to the to large wheels.
If you're putting bigger diameter wheels (wheel + tire) on a car you should ideally change the final drive as the power train has to work harder to turn the larger wheels.
I had a 1984 Porsche 944 with the same rare color (Pasadenagelb) and brown interior. Mine was very reliable; I only replaced the alternator (and did oil changes) for the 6 years I owned it. I sold it when I moved to France because of high insurance costs there. For me, it was cheap and fun. I kept mine stock, but I had a second set of racing wheels for autocross on the weekends. I also owned a Miata at the same time, and to me, the 944 was a sports car, and the Miata (also fun) was not. Seating is low, but comfortable. I drove my 944 from California to New York without any problems. Anyone considering buying a 944 (in spite of this review) should read up on the known problems. You'll want to find out when the timing belt and water pump were changed. After so many years, you'll also want to check that nothing leaks. I enjoyed watching your video, but with the sound muted. ;-)
Porsche 944: Cheapest way to feel entitled to dickishly correct people on the pronunciation of "Porsche".
You know, for a 1987 year car, that interior is pristine compared to the others I've seen from the same period.
*Edit. Interesting you mention the IROC Camaro. Back in the day when I was in high school, a classmate of mine was killed when he was racing a 944 Turbo. They were on a two lane road, crested a hill and you know the rest. Interestingly, the Porsche was winning and saw the other car coming and tried to motion for the IROC driver to get over behind him but he didn't :(.
Would you happen to be from Central NY?
>love Miata
>shit on Porsche 944
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Coffice I will obliterate your pos Miata. Go change yer tampon.
I don't think you understand this comment, try reading it again.
I love RCR reviews but as always everyone has a terrible vice. He happens to like miatas, I'm willing to look past it, however hard it has been.
I do not love RCR and I do not condone shit taste so I'll say it for you and you can live vicariously through me.
once drove a miata it was automatic, the slowest car i have ever driven besides a cavalier lol
“ If you put enough work into it, you can get a good car “
“ NO YOU WON’T ! “
😂😂😂
Someone give that guy a 914 to drive. Please.
I would love to hear his opinion.
I have 2. They are not fast but are fun to drive swiftly.
Tilman Baumann
"that guy". Don't talk about my dad that way
just as long as the floor doesn't split in half lol
I think the big wheels ruined that cars acceleration. I have a normal NA and I love it. It's not a drag,drift or hooligan car. It's a grip car. I have driven on curvy roads with a Supra Turbo, R32 GT-R, and a Mustang GT and they had to work to keep up with the 944. The lack of power is noticeable in around town driving but it cruises comfortably on the freeway. Find some curvy roads and you won't notice a lack of power. You have to own an 944 to appreciate it. I really enjoy my car. I've ridden in a E92 M3, an SLK, Mustang GT, but at the end of the day, I enjoy the size, practicalness, and handling of my car. But it's expensive and won't impress anyone with its acceleration. In my opinion you can definitely get more car for less in cars like the Mustang or a BMW. But the 944 is unique. I see more old 911s on the road than I do 944s. The 951 Turbo is a totally different beast of a machine.
Jack 59 I have a hard time believing a R32 GT-R had a hard time keeping up with a N/A 944... and this is coming from a Starion owner, which is very comparable to a 944 Turbo. A GT-R would wipe the floor with my car, don't try to exaggerate the performance of yours...
Same here! I raced a LT1 trans am on curvy roads and that sucker had it's work cut out for him! I absolutely loved my Porsche... I curse the day I ever sold it😭😭😭
@@buckorooster Likely has more to do with the confidence of the owner, or knowledge of the road. Considering in the touring car years, E30 M3's would hold off the R32's on certain tracks despite their obvious power disadvantage, it's perfectly believable a well driven 944 can hold off an R32 on the trickier roads.
That's not a proper 944. That's an abortion. The wheels alone give it an extra inch in clearance ( like the suspension blocks in post '75 MGB's) phone-dial wheels (or cookie-cutter Fuchs on pre 86's only) Helen Keller could carry momentum through corners in a 944... and that is their virtue. This review cemented the awesome comedic value of RCR, whilst demonstrating lack of automotive prowess.
Wheels don’t change the distance between gear ratios. Sure 2nd and third will be taller... but it won’t make the engine go into the basement after hitting redline on the previous gear.
@@Bartonovich52 nope indeed, but this car was still an abortion: power steering leak, wheels that make this car handle like a fucking carriage and a fucking vacuum leak... What the fuck was he thinking? Did he truly thought he was making an honest review of all the 944 based upon this one? Thats plain brain thrash. That 944 doesn't fucking deserve this dude-bro as an owner... Kid shit talks Mr Regular "it's very track oriented" no its not dumbass you just put 20in wheels on it, it has the worst vacuum leak I've ever seen wtf is this car making even 50% of the power it's supposed to make?? Whatever man... Come drive mine... I can assure you my stock 924S would leave that abortion in the dust
I feel like you got either a bad example, lemon or something. I test drove a few 944s, never bought one, but the steering felt super precise and tight with no play in the wheel - which was one of the things I remember most about the car. Powe-rwise, the car felt like a ~200hp car. Maybe climbing to 60 in a pinch more than 6 seconds which really isn't so bad.
oh a reference to the undertale fandom, im happy, but with RAGGGGGEE!
Luis Morales you're trash
Why? Undertale fandoms are one of the bigger ones at them moment...
Muammar Gibran imo most large fandoms turn to trash
I have nothing against undertale itself
The fandom can be complete trash though
Was just busting balls
Undertale lol
Suboptimus Lime just like furries
Considering the size of the wheels of the car you drove, I'm not too surprised that it dies in between gears lol
The way the quotation marks popped up a few frames after the word "sports" was one of those little touches that let you know someone really understands humor. I loved it!
so, I'm a former owner of both a 944S and a 944 turbo.
Short answer to this video is you absolutely should check out a turbo. The 944S has very little low end torque and the gearing is pretty high, which . . .. uh . . . . it seems like you noticed. a bit.
or an s2. the s2 is a 3 liter 4, so it's not as fast as the turbo but the extra displacement helps with the low end.
also, i'm surprised you said that this S didn't want to turn . . . . that's a bit odd. 944's are easy to get into oversteer with that transaxle weight out back, so I wonder if something was amiss with this particular one's suspension or alignment.
no mention of toooorque tuuuube
Pork tube?
OOZ662 You can pork Mr. Regular in his tube.
My car had a terrible whirring noise because of that..
Yeah i was gonna say, the torque tube.. with bearings that go every 100K.
Jughead Smith lies
I own a 968 convertible, and it is FAR from slow, even by today's standards
So is it mint green with a matching interior?
Not really a 'showoff' thing. you can get 968's for $10k, and they're decent bang for buck once you fix (or if you're lucky enough to avoid) all the build quality/reliability issues they develop, as pre-2000s European cars seem to like doing
Go on Craig's and show me a neat one for 10k. Here in France and Germany, clean well maintened 968 convertible are pretty rare and sell for 25k minimum.
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Hommes d'influence You're right!!
My mom had a green 944, with an automatic. Back then, as a young kid, I thought it was SO cool.... until it broke down.... and broke down again.... and again......aaaannndd again..... All I remember from that car is the smell when you opened the door. It was so calming. She bought it new, and it kept that “ Porsche” smell up until we gave it away.
As someone who owned multiple Miatas and 944s the claim that they don't handle well is insane. The 944 right behind the Miata in terms of driving.
Drive a turbo. do it. do it. do it.
My childhood hero. in jewish racing gold.
Lmfao
And now ALL classic Porsches are skyrocketing in value, including the 944!
This was quite entertaining. When you're angry, you sound like Trevor from GTA V
A 1984 Porsche 944 was my first car. It was guards red, and it had the more classic pre-revised interior. It was tan with dark brown accents. Maybe i'm looking back with rose tinted glasses, but I absolutely loved that car. It did handle well if you knew what you were doing. This brown color and huge wheels do not do this car justice. The classic red color and black w/chrome lip Fuchs wheels made it look stunning.
I had an 86' as a daily driver for about 10 years and both loved and miss it. Many fine adventures together.
I just bought my first car, it's a 1984 944, guards red, black and chrome fuchs. Amazing car so far!
"the fandom for the 944 is worse than Undertale trash"
not FUCKING possible my man.
We need to start a petition for Mr. Regular to review an example that isn’t a pile of garbage.
Didn't know what to do with the extra holes omg
This is a great review. Reminds me of the older crazy reviews I subscribed to you for. :D
People call so many different sports cars slow. I drive a 2001 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport with 143 HP, and it feels plenty adequate to me, even on twisty back roads. I feel like any sports car would be an improvement, in terms of driving fun. I'd probably think a BRZ feels fast. People are losing perspective, with modern cars being so powerful. If you're just driving around town and on twisty back roads for fun, you really don't need much power. It's more about the feel than anything.
i agree , i think people just like the feel of torque from a stop and go perspective and mostly in a straight line.
joey rolph You say that.
And then you drive a car that actually has power in the back roads. And realize how wrong you were.
Remigus Ker It's annoying driving a fast car on a twisty road because the minivan in front of you won't go more then 5 over! And the car is urging you to floor it.
Gameloft Apple That's contextual. A slow car is also annoying to drive behind a minivan going the speed limit.
Remigus Ker I used to own a MK3 Supra turbo with 275 HP. It was fun, but honestly, I never felt like I missed all the extra power.
OH MY GOOD HE IS BACK! BROWN BROWN BROWN!
A real classic review. I've been missing these.
Part of the problem with the acceleration and the lack of speed is the oversized wheels, although they would add to the top end if the car had enough torque to take advantage of it. If the 944 had stock wheels on it, it would be quicker through the gears, but the shift points would come at lower speeds.
whoa! were you having a bad day when you filmed this? hahaha
Brown interiors making a huge comeback in 2017
I never thought I could be so salty after a year but I’ve yet to see a single video after you uploaded this one. Justice needs to be served to the humble 944
I don't understand the supposed rage hard on for the "fandom", these have always been fairly underrated. People that like them tend to be realistic about them.
I liked mine. Bought it for under $3,000 and beat on it until the head gasket blew. I guess I didn't like it that much because I gave it away instead of fixing it. I'm not one to "LS all the things" but it's one of the few cars that I highly encourage an LS swap over building the stock motor.
Replace all mentions of the 944 with MK3 Supra and it reads the same
Randy Winston except the mk3 supra was actually fast?
+James Lee the non turbo was one of the slowest cars I've ever owned
Well of course the non turbo one is slow, that car is heavy as fuck. All base model cars in the 80's were slow lol
+Kuson2 yep and the 944 is a non turbo, too
Randy Winston What im getting at, is you could replace all mentions of a 944 with {Insert random base model 80's car here} and it reads the same. Emissions were a bitch, and luckily for everyone, the issues are a thing of the past. Kinda like the Jerry curl.
Haha. Fun review. 👍
Had an 85 944 n/a.
0-60 in 8 seconds.
Much faster than the 86 BMW E30 320i i drive now.
0-60 13 seconds...
So back then, a very fast car. But today, - just a quick car.
But my sister had the 944 Turbo S. Oh yeah. It's a Corvette eater.
I had a track-prepped 1987 944 turbo. With a mild engine tune, it produced 250 hp and even with stock suspension and street tires was reasonably quick on the track. It handled beautifully and really felt like a sports car (not a "sports" car). Mr. Regular just drove the wrong iteration of the car. Of course, it was crazy expensive to maintain, so I sold it for $2k more than I paid for it and bought an E36 BMW instead.
Nobody knows how badass this car is until their best friend had one in highschool. Unfortunately this guy missed out.
Mr. Regular, have you ever considered making a mini-series wherein you go in-depth with the inner workings of a car? A series of lessons to get noobs like me more well versed in cars, you're clearly quite knowledgeable on the subject.
TheGranFan04 no, that kinda expects you to already be a car person who knows their stuff, it would be nice if he explained the basics and how it works
There's like a million series about that out there. This is mostly a comedy channel, not the place for that.
He does not actually know that much about cars btw. He regularly makes dumb mistakes and has never driven a car hard.
What engineering explained.
Engineering explained is exactly what you search. He is an automotive engineer and explains very complex topics in short vids. The best thing is he has the ability to explain it in a way that every non trained person understands it.
If you ask me, it looks like a second gen(87-91) Mazda RX-7.
Angel S funny thing about it the fc rx7 was styled to look like this car
No; The Mazda looks like the Porsche, not the other way around.
RX-7 was much better proportioned, though.
Abimelec Both made in '87 so it's a wash.
D'oh it was made in '82. You win. 😑
in the comments it seems unanimus. I owned one ten years ago when i was 20. It took some practice to make it go quick from zero to 60, and it will pass just about any car you come across on the highway by simply gearing down. My porche back in the day could take a sharp turn going 45 without sliding. it would seriously hug the road just right. amazing car.
FUN FACT: The 944 is, in fact, an engineering marvel. Porsche found a way to negate the aerodynamic issues associated with "pop-up" headlights by making the car so slow it didn't really matter. As the adage goes, "Necessity is the motherfuc-
I love the 944 turbo. I still want one, gorgeous!
My dad had a 944 and then later a 944 Turbo S. I grew up in the passenger seat of that Turbo S and it is why I am a car person today! 250bhp in the Turbo S was not slow.
I bought one because of this review 😂
It's a 30 year old 4-cylinder car, I very much doubt it has the same HP rating it had when new.
The 944 Turbo was awesome.
I love RCR's view most of the time, but I'm convinced they just don't understand Porsches. Every video they've made on them (except the 911 sc POV) misunderstands why they're the icon of the automotive world that they are.
As for the 944, they make good race cars because they have 50/50 weight, good top end power and they're pretty light, but they're only quick if the driver knows what he's doing: I'm not sure regular does in this instance.
What a dumbfuck of a review
Ouch. Some harsh words. Consider that maintenance and upkeep could be major players in this being a slow car. Clogged exhaust, catalytic converter, air filter, fuel filter, fouled plugs, low compression, to name an ongoing list - in no particular order - of the things which may bedevil this example.
QB89Dragon True story, that and the big wheels will make for a tired feeling car. Mr.Regular also has an apparent bias against this and other German cars.
CobNasties "the box said 'ten horsepower'"
Um... Huge fan of RCR for years. But i own a 1987 944 S and RCR was... wrong. put less than $500 into it and it wont be "slow". Tune it right, or swap the motor. and also i have never seen that interior. Mine is black and i have also seen tan. I personally LOVE the 944.
it needs an L S s w a p
@@sofielee4122 LS swap is old news, not cheap at all and reliability is questionable at best. The 07K VW turbo swap is a much better option, or hell even the 3800 GM supercharged motor for $400 lol. Plenty of better swap options on a 944 than a stupid LS, just saying.
What did you do to upgrade ur 944...i have a very nice black.5 speed
Lol @ comparing the reliability of an LS to any turbocharged VW.
I am starting to talk with my son about getting his first car. He wants a Porsche, but I told him the only one he can have is a 944 - for precisely the reasons mentioned in here. It's a Porsche, it's comfortable, and it's not fast - so he won't get into too much trouble with it. It will also give us a project to work on together.
Still hoping someone gets him over to review a Silvia
Kallum R he already did a s13
Ah should've clarified: S15 Silvia
+Kallum S15s can't be imported into the US, unless he went to Australia where they're endemic here I don't think we'll see one for a while.
He could get a Canadian one/come to canada, buddy of mine goes into the states with his s15 a lot, granted its a drift car. not stock these days.
he did one
👏👏👏 I love it when you don't like a car, or the stigma that goes with a certain car. Episodes like this one are why I watch you.
I’ve had one since 2003 I was laughing so much watching this video hahaha
LOL I love it, mine was junk until I rechipped it and chose the 8k limit for 5th to 3rd pops where the 2.5 v8 bmw's were caught napping, I had never experienced no brake corners ever before.
I cross shopped a lot of cars before I bought my 944S. Heck, I spent weeks driving a family member's NA Miata and I still bought a 944S.
Mine is quite happy revving(and this is using the Miata as a reference point), and pulls hard as long as you shift so that the revs stay above 4k where it climbs on the cam. It SUCKS at the stoplight drags because there is nothing off the bottom, but spend an hour lost in the mountains and it does start to make sense.
Heck, the original 924 is fun to drive and it was slower.
For racing a LOT of weight comes out. My mechanic has a 944 Turbo track car which is extremely well prepared, makes around 400 horsepower and tips the scales at 2300lbs. It runs about the same lap times as a modern 911 GT3 at Watkins Glen.
You should drive some of the other German big 16v fours- the E30 M3 and Mercedes 190e Cosworth.
I've never understood why people use "heritage" as an excuse for mediocre cars from big name manufacturers. If the best chef in the world worked at my local McDonald's it doesn't change the fact that it still tastes like McDonald's.
ilikecereal421 "Heritage", for when you want an expensive brand name but can't actually afford a model that made the name matter in the first place. Its like dating an ugly girl because her mom is hot.
Because they don't want to feel like they got ripped off or made the wrong decision.
Or as an excuse why cars with smart engineering are terrible just because people don't like change. I'm sick of all whining about the new Ford GT not having a V8 because "heritage." But it was literally designed to be an endurance race car (Just like the old GTs! Is that NOT heritage?) and the TT V6 was more efficient...and it won Le Mans just like the first GT did The Jaguar XJ220 got (and still gets) the same crap for having a V6, even though it was the fastest production car in its day. And it also won at Le Mans.
Heritage: The official word for people who like Jell-O salad.
It's more like going to a fine steak restaurant and buying the cheapest steak. Sure graded on a curve, it doesn't seem all that special. But it's still a hell of a lot better than McDonalds man.
I had a white 1986 Porsche 944 in the 90's ... loved it's ride, very comfortable, fun to drive ... was my daily commuter ... nice ride highway or city ... low maintenance vehicle ... wasn't as fast as I hoped for but, still very nimble & agile. it was a status thing ... " I drive a Porsche "
Ohhhhh Caaaannnaaaadaaaaaaaa.
So cool to see an Ontario plate on the channel. Didn't think someone would actually drive down there to let Mr. Regular review their car.
Gotta stick an LS in it.
Someone already did it
@@CLK944 lots of people have.
Exactly
An LS will kill the 944 transmission/drive train. You need the turbo to swap (and the 951 can take a lot of boost and needs the V8 munh less. Of course that implies a few blown 951s to swap).
I would swap a Porsche V8 in it
That Ontario plate! Come to Canada. Just maybe wait till the summer we already have snow here.
Got an '86 944 Lux in the UK, just the 160ish hp version. It hits 60 in about 7.5 secs and just about does a genuine 140mph, still. It's on original wheels and has Avon ZV5 tyres fitted. It handles like a bloody big go kart!! For a car that's done over 200k miles it's in remarkable condition, no rust and just the normal crack on the top of the dash. Oh...and the digital clock stopped working in it's brown interior!!!! People like em cause they're well built, comfy, reliable, look cool and for their era they go pretty well. They don't sound amazing, but stick a sports exhaust on and they sound ok. So there...a few reasons why people like them😀
I'd own one. Looks stellar. Also Roman's singing on the end. Just absolute pleasure to me ears
people only like the 944 because its one of the few porsches we mightve been able to afford in highschool if we didnt spend all our first jobs paychecks on weed.
I love 944s, they're fantastic mini-GTs. But go back to the old wheels, big rubber suits older cars better.
If it didn't have a Porsche badge on it, it wouldn't be half bad. But because it's a Porsche, more is expected of it. A friend of mine used to have one. It was a fun low budget whip.
You're right about the acceleration, wrong about the handling. The 944 comes into it's own when pressed hard through a corner, and in the 80's, it would keep up with a non-turbo 911.