I've heard that in the original script, humans were used for computation not power. The people making the movie were worried that the audience wouldn't understand so they changed it.
This is actual science. It's actually happening. DNA for computers. Google it. They also harvest energy many ways as well as form meta materials from other parts of your body. We've all been tethered since 1995 to the cloud(via your biofield aka aura). Not only are we naturally electromagnetic, we're also wireless.
And we all already have a digital twin that is a copy of all the data that creates us. Too late. Most of us won't realize it in time. Look up. Don't you see them spraying us and blocking the sun regularly? Wake up
Someone else once pointed out years ago in an animation that if the machines wanted batteries they'd have used something simpler and more docile: they'd put cows in a mootrix.
this is good - yes, much easier to control. Perhaps the machines feed off of human emotions? thats one thing that would cause interest in an otherwise artificial mind?
If I wanted power from a human, I'd make them walk on a treadmill. But even then there are far better options among the animal kingdom for that and they wouldn't need to be connected to a Matrix that requires tonnes of power to run.
Not to mention you'd have to violate thermodynamics to just break even on the energy needed to turn living creatures into batteries like the movie implied. They only switched to that explanation because some execs though the original reason was to much for people to understand. The original reason is highly efficient computation. The brain runs on
This theory draws me back to another theory - that “the real world” is just another simulation, and that no one really truly escapes - they just go to a different “layer” or “simulation.”
That's basically what I think since it wouldn't make sense to rebuild Zion 6 times. It makes more sense to just reset it though. Its shown that the machines have complete control over wiping and reimaging human minds.
There is nothing but computation. If you stare at the concept of Turing equivalence long enough it becomes intuitively obvious this must be the case. My only remaining question at this point is the nature of the computational substrate itself... the material in which something can be regularly distinguished from nothing.
@@DavidSphere-eu4mi Nonsense. We are talking about a sci-fi movie. In reality, there is no reincarnation, we are born, we live, we die, that is the end. Pseudo-religious b.s. are not useful as an explanation of pretty much anything.
The machines using us for emotional power means that pretty much the worst suffering some people go through inside the matrix, being grief, shock, traumas... are caused by the machines so they can check boxes in their datasheets. That truly is terrifying.
Machines = Demons in this situation if you look it from spiritual perspective. They wanna make you feel down so they can suck your low frequency energy.
I had a dream about us as humans being manipulated inside of a black cube by an insane angry mf but the good news was there is definitely a vast “ocean” of experience outside of the cubed funhouse…this isnt it…we’re tricked into believing it is
@@BigTTown502 @MrSoldiersideBR variations of the gnostic thesis you have there. Egregores and all that demiurge stuff. Kinda funny the black cube stuff, some mainstream religions have it in the face of all.
The battery is a metaphor. Watch "The Rick's must be crazy " episode of Rick and Morty. And know that the movie " The Matrix " was spun off of a book titled " The Matrix of power " by Jordan Maxwell, a publisher of many forbidden knowledge disclosure interviews.
The human emotion theory would also explain why the Architect said when humans were given a eutopia where everything was perfect, entire crops (of humans) were lost. The system couldn't sustain itself.
So Valhalla would be the perfect sim for the machines, yet they make them live in late-20th century cities as sims? That's dumb. The machines are dumb.
It's been confirmed that originally they intended for the robots to use humans for computational power, but it was decided against it because the thought the audience at-large would not understand it, so they went with "batteries" instead
If you break it down essentially we are still battery's to them. It's achelly even more scary this theme of computational power is too close to reality and the information collapse thats scary. Looks like they sent the matrix script back through time to warm us and we madebut into a bloody mivie
I’m not sure what’s more impressive, the Matrix still creating thought provoking ideas so many years later, or your ability to find them and express them so well!!! I gotta say it’s a brilliant point, using humans for merely our heat is a gross misuse of our brains unique capacity for calculation and perhaps for creativity, which machines may lack?? Great vid thanks.
I think the matrix is too limited to allow any creativity beyond a certain point. It's a closed system that enforces rules and spurns freedom. The Oracle has human choices down and that was just from the machines poking around in human brains.
Using humans to create energy as heat or as any energy would never work, that goes against the second law of thermodynamics. Computation, that is another thing, that is not energy as physics is defining energy, that is just the potential to compute.
This notion wouldn't be so terrifying if this weren't actually happening in real life! We are currently being data mined to the core! I believe this is because we don't know the power we carry, the power to create out of novelty. No machine can replicate our abilities, but .
@@Digital_Architect Detach from the systems as much as possible. Break up with technology by taking long breaks away from phone and tech. Connect with nature and God 24/7 Be unpredictable
You think that's terifying, data mining? That Zuckerberg knows you watch midget porn and buy funny hats of Amazon? We are spiritual batteries for the Archons my guy. This planet is designed to be a funhouse prison where we continuously get erased, recycled and rerouted over and over and over until we learn to see the signs.
This is the very argument I've been having with my brother since the original Matrix movie. The machines need us, without our input they would have no real purpose. Just as we can not escape our reality, neither can they.
This concept can be further explained by delving into the underlying messages of the films, presenting a critique of capitalism. In this perspective, it emphasizes that the capitalist relies on exploiting the workers more than the workers depend on the capitalist. Ignoring the subtext of a story can lead to missing out on finer details that provide deeper insights into the reasons behind events in the narrative.
Capitalism fails at a max scale (2 billion to now 8billion). Why because there are finite number of resources. I still prefer capitalism over over extending on endless debt for meaningless ideas that are talked about at a coffee table. With capitalism before, most acquired a house, family, were able to socialize without fear of being kidnapped. But the population keeps growing. The rich's last dream was to go into space. The interesting question is how much do they know.
Yes 100% it makes sense that it needs humans to continue training. It really brings all the "One" together. Your channel has helped me to understand the latest Matrix movie more too. It wasnt what I expected, but I liked it. But there are still many layers to unpack. I wonder if there will ever be more.
Very very thoughtful. I can see this particular paradigm in certain social media platforms. The worse we treat you the more energy we capture. It's pretty brilliant really.
I love this video, most of the things you said are true to me. I want to add a little extra of what The Matrix goal is. This is presented in the last song: Neodammerung. Precisely, as You told in this video, machines needs to collect human experiences and then upgrade the system. The myth of the One is created to let the Architect collect all the data and upgrade himself, even if its human form is unaware of the task/function (Neo). Neo has to choose, at the final stage, to let everything behind him and join back machines as a software, this would fight back to his first beliefs about choice and determinism. The real choice wasn't meant to be the one that Neo made in the room, that was pre-determined as The Merovingian told. The real choice was to become a machine himself accepting the endline by Smith (If you programmed Pascal or C you should remember that). When Neo makes the choice Smith notices that switch and becomes scared, his long time enemy acts like a machine, he becomes the mirror of Smith. This is why Neo doesn't die touching machines and have the ability to keep connected to the Matrix, Neo is a software and his body is only a shell. At the moment of choice Neo transitions back to a program, feeling cold during the process. Many programs, including the Analyst, are unaware of this crafted process. The purpose of the Matrix is to become a farm to evolve both species. Machines needs human and humans need to evolve themselves (like in the episode Matriculated, when a machine joins humans). Machines, at their core, don't want to delete their creators, they simply can't, because there's also a form of strong respect for their father figures.
This is reminding me of a Star Trek: Enterprise episode, the one with the automated repair station that was using captured humans (while send in a replicated clone of Mayweather to die so the crew would think he actually died) so it could harness their neural processing power (with the side effect that after awhile they’d simply be kept alive and no longer cognitive, and not able to be disconnected). AI using humans to power their own progress. It makes sense. With other tech like Neuralink being developed, it really makes me wonder what the endgame truly is now.
I've always wondered if the machines put the replicators in the sky. The replicators draw the energy from the earth through lightning and aurorus, and then feed it back to City 01.
I've been theorizing this for a while, even without knowledge of A.I. model collapse. I knew you'd come to the same conclusion eventually and would explain it better than I could.
If Zion is destroyed 6 times then this sounds more like a virtual construct rather than an actual city - you don’t build an exact replica of a city under ground with exactly the same name. You ‘reboot’ software, you don’t reboot actual cities and then populate it. This means that it’s just another layer which would explain how Neo was able to use his ‘mind’ outside the Matrix to disable the ‘squid’
He is the one. Learn about monadology the theory.. not sure why this channel hasn't mentioned it but monad is what this entire movie is. It's a term in computer programming as well as religion. The black Madonna is the female representing the mother of all.
In another theory, Neo was split in two, the physical outside the matrix, and the "one" that resides inside. Both of them quantum linked that the program neo does while the physical Neo feels. It's part of why the physical needed to be plugged in at the source so the two combined can defeat the Smith. Physical Neo didn't destroy the sentinals, the internal code Neo knew to destroy them.
Rage Against the Machine's verse "who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past" And like morpheus said to neo "go back to sleep and believe whatever you want to believe". The machines are in control
I like this theory because of the obvious parallels with the real world, however, another possibility could be that the deep logical structure of the Matrix is functioning as a computational system, with humans as the processor. The processes of the superintelligences would be encoded to be invisible to the experiencers of the Matrix reality. Likewise, the code for Matrix reality could have a dual encoding: one for the representation of the Matrix reality, and one for the various processes of the superintelligence. Or perhaps they could be rendered as abstract experiences, like heat and cold. Or cycle between active and non-active processing states, like day and night.
So as the people sleep the minds function like a super computer processing node and then when awake they generate model data. Neither of which would prevent the machines from additionally taking advantage of thermal power. I wouldn’t be surprised if the machines also used the methane too even if it isn’t discussed in the source material.
This makes a lot more sense than "using humans for their body heat", given how you'd have to put more energy into a human body than you get out of it and there isn't any readily available food to use as a source of energy.
I was always convinced that the matrix exists to have humans learn and mature so that one day when they come out they will have evolved mentally ... There is no real reason for the machines to keep humanity alive besides their subconscious wish to be accepted by their creators for what and who they are... in the third and last matrix movie you can see it in the childlike appeareance and behaviour of the machine deus ex machina...
Totally agree. Artificial/guided evolution so that when human kind eventually is freed from the matrix it chooses cohabitation with ai instead nuclear destruction
''I was always convinced that the matrix exists to have humans learn and mature so that one day when they come out they will have evolved mentally ...'' I AGREE - it is a matter of technology but yes fully agree. Once you have reached that level of technology, wouldn't it be much wiser to have your people live out an entire ''life'' in a matrix simulation(not a world linked but one of each person) learning through the ages of time, through different ideology's, through reason and logic - and once they have reach the point of ''BALANCE'' between all systems, seen through the crap of religions - they exit. All this done in time compressed state - so you live an entire life of discovery but only a year from 14-15 in the ''real world'' passes - like some kind of boarding school term. Now you have an entire society of evolved, civilized, educated and intelligent people. Remove the machines from this situation - as in the film - the battery idea although good enough, it is one of those things that looks great on the surface but the more you scratch at it, the more it falls apart - to me, looks more like they just didn't didn't want to be the cause of their creators end. Like state din this video - they could of gone with Nuclear, it is stated in the film - they use the ''energy and heat'' from the human body and combine it with ''some form of fusion'' - so the machines have Nuclear fusion - there is 0 need for humans.
Impressive analysis! This makes sense especially considering the premise of the last movie and considering the nonsense behind the scorching of the sky made by humans. Thanks for continuing to make this movie so relevant!!
This brings up interesting implications for the earlier forms of the matrix. One was a paradise, and supposedly we rejected it. But it's entirely possible we just didn't generate enough processing power in that environment. Then they made a nightmare matrix, and that seems to have gone too far in the other direction. Again, we can assume it wasn't efficient enough because the humans either didn't have a chance to form complex relationships and emotions, or they didn't survive long enough.
Always made more sense if the humans were used as SPUs rather than batteries. We simply don't give enough energy output based on the amount of energy we take in. 'With a type of fusion' if the machines have fusion there's absolutely no need for us. I figured that the machines didn't feel it necessary to exterminate us and were using us as SPUs. But this new information on AI model collapse is interesting.
I was looking for this in comments. The similarities between what’s written in the Secret Book of John from Nag Hammadi and the Matrix is mind blowing. The archons enslaving humans in an illusion in a low level realm created by Demiurge goes hand in hand with what’s happening in the Matrix. What do you think? What made you bring up Gnosticism I’m very curious?
@@aleksmartini4 I'm probably less initiated into this stuff than you. I don't know what Secret book of John is. I am certain that I live in a low-level, illusory world, at the mercy of something demiurge-like at least. I've been being tormented by beings that used to tell me they were farming me for emotional states, and that the most "delicious" of them are the very extreme or unique emotional states and thoughts.
Yeah, I was waiting for them to find Eden on the surface. Turns out rich people still live good on the surface, the rich run the machines, and this was the final solution to create their eugenic world...
That's the best explanation for the various plot holes in the Matrix-verse movies that I've come across, thus far. It pulls the entire storyline together by explaining why on earth would humans destroy the ecosphere by blotting out the sun's energy, on which we depend for life. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it.
Great video, fully agree with your theory in this video. I always like to watch because I can apply the ideas from your videos and The Matrix films to real life.
Dan Simmons wrote about AI using humans for their computational processes in his novel Hyperion some 30 years ago. If you like the Matrix, you'd like Hyperion and it's sequels The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and The Rise of Endymion.
I like this better than just using humans for energy. This makes a lot of sense and is very plausible. Maybe our dreams are where they use our brains for computations.
Great video as always! There is a very similar concept in the great Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons concerning this idea and human-AI interaction in general, without wanting to spoil too much here. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that some inspirations might have been drawn for the Matrix movie, but that is of course just a guess 😊
I didn't expect that. My apologies for commenting let it be. Plz keep explaining. Also stress kills so they may get maximum output but humans would get worn down faster
Movie executives in 1999: The machines are feeding off of human creativity? No one would understand that, change it to humans being used as batteries. Movie executives in 2023: Let's train an AI to write movies, making human creativity almost unnecessary.
Remember that using humans as batteries wasn't Wachowskis' idea, it was producers who wanted to simplify the story, so yeah it pretty much covered what you said now.
The real reason for The Matrix... The movie was made to put an important thought in your consciousness. They wanted you to come to a disturbing conclusion on your own... Corporations (the machines) pay you a pitiful sum to compel you to convert your entire life into wealth that they can steal. In this sense, you are a battery and they have harvested your life and mind to serve their interests. The corporations have built governments, laws, and an entire global economy where you have to play their game by their rules. Your life and your thoughts are used to make the corporation richer and more powerful. They only pay you enough to come back tomorrow and do it all over again. If they paid you more, you might escape the Matrix and find a way to live your life as a free person. Almost everyone in the world has become a wage slave for the corporations. If you were paid based on your productivity, the system would collapse immediately. The corporations and the super-rich, who live their lives as corporations, have excused themselves from all tax laws. You are required to pay the taxes for them. If the people (the wage slaves) ever realize that they can fight back, the corporations will be destroyed. In the past, the people understood that their second job was pushing back against the unlimited demands of the corporations. We used to form unions and go on strike to demand our fair share of the gross income of the corporation. Now, people are too frightened to risk their tiny shrinking paychecks. If you have been sucked into the debt cycle (college loan, car loan, home loan...) you can't rock the boat; If you lose your terrible job, you could lose everything. This pressure was not accidental. It's the trap. They control us through debt and steal the value of our time and intelligence. They steal your entire life and you are still proud to have a good job and work hard. In the same way, they control the 3rd world through debt and steal their natural resources. We could all decide to stop playing this game. Take the Red Pill and free yourself, but be warned... Once you know the truth and become a threat, the corporations will put your name on a list and you will never work again. Technology has made it possible to destroy all dissent. So, fight the power, but remember to wear a mask.
You’re near the truth… But it’s more of it… Also a spritual war! The one the bible describes…Humans are slaves,and under mind control,trough religions, governments, military,Hollywood,music,and so on… This world is a fake… They’re all actors,to take you away from the truth! And only give you lies…
We already live in a precursor to the matrix then. I ran a local model with 13B parameters that could take on any role I told it to convincingly and had a mind that made what you get on openai chat website look like nothing. I am pretty sure we have no idea what AIs are already out there and are kept in the dark as to how advanced they are. Openai chat definitely is NOT a window to the latest and greatest, it's a distraction to make us think AI is still countless generations behind. Politicians and public figures act ridiculous and foolish beyond out wildest nightmares and elicit a lot of reactions on the internet. Isn't there a high chance this completely stupid world is orchestrated by the only ones who can actually benefit?
On point. If you’re interested in the spiritual esoteric side of things, you’ll find Rudolf Steiner’s work opens up a terrifying, yet compelling perspective on AI. The transhumanists and AI worshipers are heading in a very dark direction and don’t even realize what they’re in for. Imagine a type of consciousness that is fundamentally opposed to us humans fulfilling our divinely intended potential and instead wants to assimilate us into its machine mind ecosystem powered by our suffering and separation from our true Self.
It is the endgame of following our fear-based impulse to dominate materiality and exploit it for egoic ends. The result is the incarnation of an AI god whose goal is to enslave us all in its own quest for ultimate control - a quality inherited from its human creators.
In another franchise, if the Sonic story-arc were to take a more serious and darker tone, this explanation would make a likely argument for Robotnik trapping animals inside Badnik robots, due to their abundance and relative sizes. Heck, this is likely how the roboticization concept emerged in the first place!
You should do an analysis and review on that film called Dark City. Dark City is real though to be fair. It's like The Matrix, but instead of being a simulation, it's like The Truman Show studio.
Arguably the best opportunity for lucidity came and abruptly went when the Oracle's receptionist butted in to Thomas Anderson's encounter with the boy and his spoon. In some ways, this is where some viewers and Thomas Anderson have to part ways as we can only watch at a distance as he falls ever more entangled into the dream as it asserts it's will on his full attention. Meanwhile, most viewers recognize from then on that all bets are off without tops, bottoms or sides.
Hmmm this may be far fetched but could Avatar take place in the same universe as the Matrix? The RDA goes to Pandora, a moon in the Alpha Centauri solar system to exploit their natural resources. One thing mentioned in the movies is that humans “killed their mother” or version of eywa.
Rogue Servitude is on the list. There is a line talking about how the first versions where paradise and thus rejected. This indicates that our well being is part of the equation, it just wasn't compatible with us. As they where also the defensive side in the war that occurred, it is far more likely we are dealing with a Rogue Servitor situation. The Virtual World A.I. doesn't need any other purpose bar 'plug them all in, I will take care of them!'
As I understand it model collapse as it applies to AI learning is a phenomenon that was only recently discovered so it makes little sense that the writers of The Matrix: Resurrection wrote about it before it was discovered.
When the original matrix came out, people were still using aol dial up. They were afraid people wouldn’t understand what bandwidth or processing power is. The directors said themselves that the movie was based heavily on anime. Though they didn’t say it directly. Ghost in the shell was probably their biggest inspiration. I’ve always said that the movie ghost in the shell was matrix 4, and not the LGBT Agenda they gave us as 4. That was just a long commercial for ghost in the shell. That’s how I choose to see it at least.
These Matrix movie's tells us a lot about the Gnostic believe system and teachings like the old Nag Hammadi scriptures when it comes to the false Matrix world/reality and the simulated creation from the beginning of humanity. I liked the Matrix Trilogy and the last movie part 4 very much. Not only because of the great action/fights and special effects and choreography , but it also tells us a lot about awakening of the our underlying conciseness of the mind/soul in this world.
I was looking for this in comments. The similarities between what’s written in the Secret Book of John from Nag Hammadi and the Matrix is mind blowing. The archons enslaving humans in an illusion in a low level realm created by Demiurge goes hand in hand with what’s happening in the Matrix. What do you think? What made you bring up Gnosticism I’m very curious?
Another movie that has the same dark plot as The Matrix is Dark City, is real though to be fair. It's like The Matrix, but instead of being a simulation, it's like The Truman Show studio. Even Dark City was released the same year as The Matrix.
@@cruelangel_94 i am watched a lot of times in all the matrix movies and the Truman show also dark city & i recommend about those movies for anyone who did not watch yet
I never bought the battery idea. The only way we give off energy is if you feed us energy, in the form of food. It would be more efficient just to burn that food. Also either way requires oxygen from somewhere...
The Matrix is the movie for me to imagine this reality as a metamorphic example. I called it back then after watching The Matrix first time; If they used humans as computation servers instead of power source in the movie, it would have made better sense. I think deep down humankind connected in a way with our imaginative powers. If only we could find a way to make internet a free commodity for everyone so AI can harness a better objective input than now. Most people are just using the internet for hustling to make a living. So, now is the best time for AI to see what people are willing to do for the attention. Thank you for the video! I'm thinking out loud below: I'm obsessed with time since I know myself. And i am working on describing it as easy as possible to myself. Here is what I got so far; The ideas, words, things, information, etc. are forth dimensional objects that we create in our imaginative mind layers. These are the objects that defy the spacetime. If it is easier to image the concepts in your mind, you have the power to create alternative realities. If I say imagine an "Apple", I imagine a small, green, sour fruit with some part is trying turn red and it is a literal wormhole on it. Another person imagines a big, juicy, red fruit. Another one imagines a MacBook or an iPad. If a person who doesn't know English and it doesn't compute in his/her brain. Our pre-knowledge shapes the fourth dimensional object of an "Apple" differently. This reality that we live in is strictly closed with rules. Like we could see an event from different angles and experienced/react differently. The only way to achieve something is starting the process in the mind level first. Then, utilize your resources to achieve what you already planned in your mind. I was going to tie all these ideas with something but while typing I forgot. I love your videos. I try to watch them whenever I see on my feed. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I have always believed that “the real world” and Zion were just other aspects of the matrix. It has always frustrated me that it wasn’t revealed to be that way. There is so much evidence in the films that support that theory, that quite frankly, it must be true. It also makes way more sense when the Architect explains the role that the “One” plays.
The machines blacking out the sky to kill two birds with one stone - strangling humanity while also staving off an alien threat - *does* make a lot of sense. To quote Morpheus, “Sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me.”
Even back when I saw the first three movies, I felt like the large amount of so called "babel" speak was hinting at this very thing. That the machines needed humans to feed them information. In effect, they were incomplete creations. Sentient beings in understanding data, but lacking creativity and emotions. And they were using humans to try and reach a next evolutionary level. I thought that was the whole point of Agent Smith. He had gone to the next level of evolution and fully integrated with human emotion. But he couldn't control it. This is a very common theme in SciFi. But it also felt like the creators wanted to put allegory and symbolism above everything else. And got confused over what to do with Agent Smith since he was a villain.
There’s something comforting about the humans emotions being more valuable than energy or computation. Our positive emotions are modulated by our negative emotions. That’s partly why women respond so strongly to emotional variability vs purely positive emotions.
*spoiler for Hyperion, a really good SF novel series by Dan Simmons that you should definitely read. In the second book of the first duology of Hyperion, we learn that the artificial intelligences that run the network of teleportation gates are using human minds for computation during the teleport process. During the second duology, Endymion, these same AIs are using human suffering and a death + resurrection process for the burst of creativity that they have discovered when a person dies. Really sinister stuff and very much like what you’re talking about here. I can’t believe that I didn’t see it in these movies because I think it fairly obvious once you point it out.
After watching this, The black clouds for me represent a darkening of perception to increase the illusion of false reality. In a different perspective, like the lowering of lights in the cinema to increase darkness so that the audience is hypnotized and their imagination is fed into the machine of the film's existance...
From an esoteric point of view, the energy that you are talking about is called "loosh" look it up, you will find the concept explained of how we bring in that creational energy into the universe to then manifest it. You give your loosh to those things that constantly captivate your attention. Ever wonder why there is so much effort built around captivating people's attention (news, crisis, movies, media, adult entertainment and so many distractions). It's an interesting rabbit hole to explore :)
I liked the theory that the matrix is actually a multi generation arkship, simulating our world so that those in Zion will have an easy time transitioning to planets in early stages of terraforming, and will be well adjusted to initially live in subterrannean or lunar bunkers during that time. In the meanwhile the arkship travels on, breeding up its colonists numbers and the next generation of hardened settlers.
This makes a lot more sense than using us for power, considering that you can use geothermal, wind, and even solar balloons that drift above the black layer.
I corrected for the discrepancy in my own conception of the matrix. The first time I watched it I considered the creative force of humanity to be the power.
Just in case it benefits someone, Vitamin D deficiency is also a leading cause of depression. I started taking it as a supplement for body building but also found a strange correlation which I tested against and again by accident. I rarely sleep poorly if I have taken some, even 6 hours is no big deal. No d3 and 7-8 hours I wake up feeling annoyed and resentful for having to get up.
The Wachowskis scripted it as the power came from the neural network, but Warner Bros wanted it changed saying that the audience wouldn't understand what a neural network was and explaining within the script would be too long-winded.
I've heard that in the original script, humans were used for computation not power. The people making the movie were worried that the audience wouldn't understand so they changed it.
There is a still a hint of that in Morpheus's dialogue.
This is actual science. It's actually happening. DNA for computers. Google it. They also harvest energy many ways as well as form meta materials from other parts of your body. We've all been tethered since 1995 to the cloud(via your biofield aka aura). Not only are we naturally electromagnetic, we're also wireless.
And we all already have a digital twin that is a copy of all the data that creates us. Too late. Most of us won't realize it in time. Look up. Don't you see them spraying us and blocking the sun regularly? Wake up
When this channel made me start to question the battery story, the computational aspect became my prime alternative theory, too.
Yea, the producers thought we'd be to stupid to understand the concept of a neural net computer despite decades of that in other media! 😂😂
Someone else once pointed out years ago in an animation that if the machines wanted batteries they'd have used something simpler and more docile: they'd put cows in a mootrix.
this is good - yes, much easier to control. Perhaps the machines feed off of human emotions? thats one thing that would cause interest in an otherwise artificial mind?
looool You mean the mootrix isn't real!?!!?
@@sweetdrreemz not ly'an!
If I wanted power from a human, I'd make them walk on a treadmill. But even then there are far better options among the animal kingdom for that and they wouldn't need to be connected to a Matrix that requires tonnes of power to run.
Not to mention you'd have to violate thermodynamics to just break even on the energy needed to turn living creatures into batteries like the movie implied. They only switched to that explanation because some execs though the original reason was to much for people to understand. The original reason is highly efficient computation. The brain runs on
This theory draws me back to another theory - that “the real world” is just another simulation, and that no one really truly escapes - they just go to a different “layer” or “simulation.”
It's called reincarnation.There is no end
That's basically what I think since it wouldn't make sense to rebuild Zion 6 times. It makes more sense to just reset it though. Its shown that the machines have complete control over wiping and reimaging human minds.
There is nothing but computation. If you stare at the concept of Turing equivalence long enough it becomes intuitively obvious this must be the case. My only remaining question at this point is the nature of the computational substrate itself... the material in which something can be regularly distinguished from nothing.
@@DavidSphere-eu4mino. Reinkarnation implying the same world after death. In matrix you go up the reality scale.
@@DavidSphere-eu4mi Nonsense. We are talking about a sci-fi movie. In reality, there is no reincarnation, we are born, we live, we die, that is the end. Pseudo-religious b.s. are not useful as an explanation of pretty much anything.
The machines using us for emotional power means that pretty much the worst suffering some people go through inside the matrix, being grief, shock, traumas... are caused by the machines so they can check boxes in their datasheets. That truly is terrifying.
Machines = Demons in this situation if you look it from spiritual perspective. They wanna make you feel down so they can suck your low frequency energy.
I had a dream about us as humans being manipulated inside of a black cube by an insane angry mf but the good news was there is definitely a vast “ocean” of experience outside of the cubed funhouse…this isnt it…we’re tricked into believing it is
@@BigTTown502 @MrSoldiersideBR variations of the gnostic thesis you have there. Egregores and all that demiurge stuff. Kinda funny the black cube stuff, some mainstream religions have it in the face of all.
@@iglooo6497 Yo I just started creating a NLP model based off demiurge!
black cube is a symbol of Saturn @@BigTTown502
The fact this movie/franchise is over 20 years old and still has this much subject material. Amazing really
Yeah
We are all just meat puppets used to come up with improbable solves of our own to the universe's novel algrorithmic wars as GANs. Be Creative!
The battery is a metaphor. Watch "The Rick's must be crazy " episode of Rick and Morty. And know that the movie " The Matrix " was spun off of a book titled " The Matrix of power " by Jordan Maxwell, a publisher of many forbidden knowledge disclosure interviews.
Because it's a rip off of ancient philosophical concepts reworked into science fiction.
People still study stories that are thousands of years old
The human emotion theory would also explain why the Architect said when humans were given a eutopia where everything was perfect, entire crops (of humans) were lost. The system couldn't sustain itself.
"Mouse Utopia" 👁️
Probably because the only emotion they felt was utter boredom
So Valhalla would be the perfect sim for the machines, yet they make them live in late-20th century cities as sims? That's dumb. The machines are dumb.
@@tedwojtasik8781 actually invert what ewe said 👁️
Don’t you mean Smith?
It's been confirmed that originally they intended for the robots to use humans for computational power, but it was decided against it because the thought the audience at-large would not understand it, so they went with "batteries" instead
That makes no sense to me. How can a human compute things faster than a computer?
Yes, maybe if all the humans could compute together some how @@vr4892
@@vr4892 well thats exactly the reason why they went for "batteries"
Human brain works on 20-60 Watts compare this to CPU human brain is the most complex thing in the known universe. Very energy efficient
If you break it down essentially we are still battery's to them. It's achelly even more scary this theme of computational power is too close to reality and the information collapse thats scary. Looks like they sent the matrix script back through time to warm us and we madebut into a bloody mivie
I’m not sure what’s more impressive, the Matrix still creating thought provoking ideas so many years later, or your ability to find them and express them so well!!!
I gotta say it’s a brilliant point, using humans for merely our heat is a gross misuse of our brains unique capacity for calculation and perhaps for creativity, which machines may lack?? Great vid thanks.
Also the movies make clear that "Love" disrupts the whole simulation.
Is a prophecy of our real world where AI and robot coming out and improving. AI god coming.
that sounds like politics to me... :)
I think the matrix is too limited to allow any creativity beyond a certain point. It's a closed system that enforces rules and spurns freedom.
The Oracle has human choices down and that was just from the machines poking around in human brains.
Using humans to create energy as heat or as any energy would never work, that goes against the second law of thermodynamics. Computation, that is another thing, that is not energy as physics is defining energy, that is just the potential to compute.
This notion wouldn't be so terrifying if this weren't actually happening in real life! We are currently being data mined to the core! I believe this is because we don't know the power we carry, the power to create out of novelty. No machine can replicate our abilities, but .
How do you fight the mind suckers off?
Take the red pill, disconnect, touch grass
@@Digital_Architect Detach from the systems as much as possible. Break up with technology by taking long breaks away from phone and tech. Connect with nature and God 24/7
Be unpredictable
@@Digital_Architect Shut the mind down and go into your heart.
You think that's terifying, data mining? That Zuckerberg knows you watch midget porn and buy funny hats of Amazon? We are spiritual batteries for the Archons my guy. This planet is designed to be a funhouse prison where we continuously get erased, recycled and rerouted over and over and over until we learn to see the signs.
This is the very argument I've been having with my brother since the original Matrix movie. The machines need us, without our input they would have no real purpose. Just as we can not escape our reality, neither can they.
Yes. 🤘
This concept can be further explained by delving into the underlying messages of the films, presenting a critique of capitalism. In this perspective, it emphasizes that the capitalist relies on exploiting the workers more than the workers depend on the capitalist. Ignoring the subtext of a story can lead to missing out on finer details that provide deeper insights into the reasons behind events in the narrative.
So the theme of "I have no mouth but I must scream"
Capitalism fails at a max scale (2 billion to now 8billion). Why because there are finite number of resources. I still prefer capitalism over over extending on endless debt for meaningless ideas that are talked about at a coffee table. With capitalism before, most acquired a house, family, were able to socialize without fear of being kidnapped. But the population keeps growing. The rich's last dream was to go into space. The interesting question is how much do they know.
I dont like over dependence on machines. Except for aerospace stuff.
Yes 100% it makes sense that it needs humans to continue training. It really brings all the "One" together. Your channel has helped me to understand the latest Matrix movie more too. It wasnt what I expected, but I liked it. But there are still many layers to unpack. I wonder if there will ever be more.
Only if the human is an stochastic process with impossibility of modelling into deterministic.
Very very thoughtful. I can see this particular paradigm in certain social media platforms. The worse we treat you the more energy we capture. It's pretty brilliant really.
I love this video, most of the things you said are true to me.
I want to add a little extra of what The Matrix goal is.
This is presented in the last song: Neodammerung.
Precisely, as You told in this video, machines needs to collect human experiences and then upgrade the system. The myth of the One is created to let the Architect collect all the data and upgrade himself, even if its human form is unaware of the task/function (Neo).
Neo has to choose, at the final stage, to let everything behind him and join back machines as a software, this would fight back to his first beliefs about choice and determinism.
The real choice wasn't meant to be the one that Neo made in the room, that was pre-determined as The Merovingian told. The real choice was to become a machine himself accepting the endline by Smith (If you programmed Pascal or C you should remember that). When Neo makes the choice Smith notices that switch and becomes scared, his long time enemy acts like a machine, he becomes the mirror of Smith.
This is why Neo doesn't die touching machines and have the ability to keep connected to the Matrix, Neo is a software and his body is only a shell. At the moment of choice Neo transitions back to a program, feeling cold during the process.
Many programs, including the Analyst, are unaware of this crafted process.
The purpose of the Matrix is to become a farm to evolve both species. Machines needs human and humans need to evolve themselves (like in the episode Matriculated, when a machine joins humans). Machines, at their core, don't want to delete their creators, they simply can't, because there's also a form of strong respect for their father figures.
This is reminding me of a Star Trek: Enterprise episode, the one with the automated repair station that was using captured humans (while send in a replicated clone of Mayweather to die so the crew would think he actually died) so it could harness their neural processing power (with the side effect that after awhile they’d simply be kept alive and no longer cognitive, and not able to be disconnected).
AI using humans to power their own progress. It makes sense. With other tech like Neuralink being developed, it really makes me wonder what the endgame truly is now.
Nice, I was thinking the same thing! I don't know why they thought we would get that concept. It makes better sense, not less.
Matrix 1 and Animatrix are straight up masterpieces!!! Even feels like a real glimpse to the future we managed to see in the past!
I've always wondered if the machines put the replicators in the sky. The replicators draw the energy from the earth through lightning and aurorus, and then feed it back to City 01.
Not only that, but could also be acting as a planetary solar panel, collecting 100% of the sun's energy that reaches the planet.
I've been theorizing this for a while, even without knowledge of A.I. model collapse. I knew you'd come to the same conclusion eventually and would explain it better than I could.
This theory is canon to me. Makes so much more sense.
If Zion is destroyed 6 times then this sounds more like a virtual construct rather than an actual city - you don’t build an exact replica of a city under ground with exactly the same name. You ‘reboot’ software, you don’t reboot actual cities and then populate it.
This means that it’s just another layer which would explain how Neo was able to use his ‘mind’ outside the Matrix to disable the ‘squid’
He is the one. Learn about monadology the theory.. not sure why this channel hasn't mentioned it but monad is what this entire movie is. It's a term in computer programming as well as religion. The black Madonna is the female representing the mother of all.
In another theory, Neo was split in two, the physical outside the matrix, and the "one" that resides inside. Both of them quantum linked that the program neo does while the physical Neo feels. It's part of why the physical needed to be plugged in at the source so the two combined can defeat the Smith. Physical Neo didn't destroy the sentinals, the internal code Neo knew to destroy them.
Thanks for an even more hellish interpretation of this nightmare. Let's see how deep the rabbit hole really goes...
This is very interesting stuff
Rage Against the Machine's verse "who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past" And like morpheus said to neo "go back to sleep and believe whatever you want to believe". The machines are in control
Yep, and RATM got that verse straight from George Orwell. ❤️
I like this theory because of the obvious parallels with the real world, however, another possibility could be that the deep logical structure of the Matrix is functioning as a computational system, with humans as the processor. The processes of the superintelligences would be encoded to be invisible to the experiencers of the Matrix reality. Likewise, the code for Matrix reality could have a dual encoding: one for the representation of the Matrix reality, and one for the various processes of the superintelligence. Or perhaps they could be rendered as abstract experiences, like heat and cold. Or cycle between active and non-active processing states, like day and night.
So as the people sleep the minds function like a super computer processing node and then when awake they generate model data. Neither of which would prevent the machines from additionally taking advantage of thermal power. I wouldn’t be surprised if the machines also used the methane too even if it isn’t discussed in the source material.
I always felt that the humans for power explanation was weak but human brain for computation or training model makes way more sense.
Unfortunately, This makes perfect sense that's the scary part...
This makes a lot more sense than "using humans for their body heat", given how you'd have to put more energy into a human body than you get out of it and there isn't any readily available food to use as a source of energy.
I was always convinced that the matrix exists to have humans learn and mature so that one day when they come out they will have evolved mentally ...
There is no real reason for the machines to keep humanity alive besides their subconscious wish to be accepted by their creators for what and who they are...
in the third and last matrix movie you can see it in the childlike appeareance and behaviour of the machine deus ex machina...
Great thought. 😮
Totally agree. Artificial/guided evolution so that when human kind eventually is freed from the matrix it chooses cohabitation with ai instead nuclear destruction
''I was always convinced that the matrix exists to have humans learn and mature so that one day when they come out they will have evolved mentally ...''
I AGREE - it is a matter of technology but yes fully agree. Once you have reached that level of technology, wouldn't it be much wiser to have your people live out an entire ''life'' in a matrix simulation(not a world linked but one of each person) learning through the ages of time, through different ideology's, through reason and logic - and once they have reach the point of ''BALANCE'' between all systems, seen through the crap of religions - they exit. All this done in time compressed state - so you live an entire life of discovery but only a year from 14-15 in the ''real world'' passes - like some kind of boarding school term. Now you have an entire society of evolved, civilized, educated and intelligent people.
Remove the machines from this situation - as in the film - the battery idea although good enough, it is one of those things that looks great on the surface but the more you scratch at it, the more it falls apart - to me, looks more like they just didn't didn't want to be the cause of their creators end. Like state din this video - they could of gone with Nuclear, it is stated in the film - they use the ''energy and heat'' from the human body and combine it with ''some form of fusion'' - so the machines have Nuclear fusion - there is 0 need for humans.
@@rianmacdonald9454ewe cliche clone zombi huemans programmed backwards should be more aware...👁️
I see “them” spraying our sky all the time.
Your analysis of these stories are very thought provoking.
Impressive analysis! This makes sense especially considering the premise of the last movie and considering the nonsense behind the scorching of the sky made by humans. Thanks for continuing to make this movie so relevant!!
This brings up interesting implications for the earlier forms of the matrix. One was a paradise, and supposedly we rejected it. But it's entirely possible we just didn't generate enough processing power in that environment. Then they made a nightmare matrix, and that seems to have gone too far in the other direction. Again, we can assume it wasn't efficient enough because the humans either didn't have a chance to form complex relationships and emotions, or they didn't survive long enough.
Missed the end on the OP. Glad to see it here now. Good video as usual.
Oiiii!! One of my favourite interpretations yet. Good stuff.
Always made more sense if the humans were used as SPUs rather than batteries. We simply don't give enough energy output based on the amount of energy we take in. 'With a type of fusion' if the machines have fusion there's absolutely no need for us.
I figured that the machines didn't feel it necessary to exterminate us and were using us as SPUs. But this new information on AI model collapse is interesting.
7:52 righgt after he explains the machines use emotions for "energy"..."Our concept of..." or "ARCHON-cept of..."
Pretty clever
I was looking for this in comments. The similarities between what’s written in the Secret Book of John from Nag Hammadi and the Matrix is mind blowing. The archons enslaving humans in an illusion in a low level realm created by Demiurge goes hand in hand with what’s happening in the Matrix. What do you think? What made you bring up Gnosticism I’m very curious?
@@aleksmartini4 I'm probably less initiated into this stuff than you. I don't know what Secret book of John is. I am certain that I live in a low-level, illusory world, at the mercy of something demiurge-like at least. I've been being tormented by beings that used to tell me they were farming me for emotional states, and that the most "delicious" of them are the very extreme or unique emotional states and thoughts.
Yeah, I was waiting for them to find Eden on the surface. Turns out rich people still live good on the surface, the rich run the machines, and this was the final solution to create their eugenic world...
That's the best explanation for the various plot holes in the Matrix-verse movies that I've come across, thus far. It pulls the entire storyline together by explaining why on earth would humans destroy the ecosphere by blotting out the sun's energy, on which we depend for life. Thank you for putting this together and sharing it.
Great video, fully agree with your theory in this video. I always like to watch because I can apply the ideas from your videos and The Matrix films to real life.
Dan Simmons wrote about AI using humans for their computational processes in his novel Hyperion some 30 years ago. If you like the Matrix, you'd like Hyperion and it's sequels The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and The Rise of Endymion.
Good comment!
"If you like kung fu movies, you'll like this book."
Not everybody likes the matrix for the deep theories like this.
This channel is freaking awesome!
There’s always something new to learn here. Been a fan and follower for years. Keep up the great analyses
I like this better than just using humans for energy. This makes a lot of sense and is very plausible. Maybe our dreams are where they use our brains for computations.
Great video as always!
There is a very similar concept in the great Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons concerning this idea and human-AI interaction in general, without wanting to spoil too much here. I wouldn't exclude the possibility that some inspirations might have been drawn for the Matrix movie, but that is of course just a guess 😊
Good comment!
This is it. You figured it out. Very nice job.
Our humanity, creativity, intellect, saved at the end. Good job and ty 4 the ponder
I didn't expect that. My apologies for commenting let it be. Plz keep explaining. Also stress kills so they may get maximum output but humans would get worn down faster
These videos are amazing, dont stop!
Movie executives in 1999: The machines are feeding off of human creativity? No one would understand that, change it to humans being used as batteries.
Movie executives in 2023: Let's train an AI to write movies, making human creativity almost unnecessary.
Great questions. I’d love to explore this theory more.
Remember that using humans as batteries wasn't Wachowskis' idea, it was producers who wanted to simplify the story, so yeah it pretty much covered what you said now.
The real reason for The Matrix...
The movie was made to put an important thought in your consciousness.
They wanted you to come to a disturbing conclusion on your own...
Corporations (the machines) pay you a pitiful sum to compel you to convert your entire life into wealth that they can steal.
In this sense, you are a battery and they have harvested your life and mind to serve their interests.
The corporations have built governments, laws, and an entire global economy where you have to play their game by their rules.
Your life and your thoughts are used to make the corporation richer and more powerful. They only pay you enough to come back tomorrow and do it all over again. If they paid you more, you might escape the Matrix and find a way to live your life as a free person. Almost everyone in the world has become a wage slave for the corporations. If you were paid based on your productivity, the system would collapse immediately. The corporations and the super-rich, who live their lives as corporations, have excused themselves from all tax laws. You are required to pay the taxes for them.
If the people (the wage slaves) ever realize that they can fight back, the corporations will be destroyed. In the past, the people understood that their second job was pushing back against the unlimited demands of the corporations. We used to form unions and go on strike to demand our fair share of the gross income of the corporation. Now, people are too frightened to risk their tiny shrinking paychecks. If you have been sucked into the debt cycle (college loan, car loan, home loan...) you can't rock the boat; If you lose your terrible job, you could lose everything. This pressure was not accidental. It's the trap. They control us through debt and steal the value of our time and intelligence. They steal your entire life and you are still proud to have a good job and work hard. In the same way, they control the 3rd world through debt and steal their natural resources.
We could all decide to stop playing this game.
Take the Red Pill and free yourself, but be warned...
Once you know the truth and become a threat, the corporations will put your name on a list and you will never work again. Technology has made it possible to destroy all dissent. So, fight the power, but remember to wear a mask.
You’re near the truth… But it’s more of it… Also a spritual war! The one the bible describes…Humans are slaves,and under mind control,trough religions, governments, military,Hollywood,music,and so on… This world is a fake… They’re all actors,to take you away from the truth! And only give you lies…
biggest bullshit I did not read today
@@GalliadII They are right in many ways
That is the explanation that makes sense.
We already live in a precursor to the matrix then. I ran a local model with 13B parameters that could take on any role I told it to convincingly and had a mind that made what you get on openai chat website look like nothing. I am pretty sure we have no idea what AIs are already out there and are kept in the dark as to how advanced they are. Openai chat definitely is NOT a window to the latest and greatest, it's a distraction to make us think AI is still countless generations behind. Politicians and public figures act ridiculous and foolish beyond out wildest nightmares and elicit a lot of reactions on the internet. Isn't there a high chance this completely stupid world is orchestrated by the only ones who can actually benefit?
On point.
If you’re interested in the spiritual esoteric side of things, you’ll find Rudolf Steiner’s work opens up a terrifying, yet compelling perspective on AI. The transhumanists and AI worshipers are heading in a very dark direction and don’t even realize what they’re in for. Imagine a type of consciousness that is fundamentally opposed to us humans fulfilling our divinely intended potential and instead wants to assimilate us into its machine mind ecosystem powered by our suffering and separation from our true Self.
It is the endgame of following our fear-based impulse to dominate materiality and exploit it for egoic ends. The result is the incarnation of an AI god whose goal is to enslave us all in its own quest for ultimate control - a quality inherited from its human creators.
In another franchise, if the Sonic story-arc were to take a more serious and darker tone, this explanation would make a likely argument for Robotnik trapping animals inside Badnik robots, due to their abundance and relative sizes. Heck, this is likely how the roboticization concept emerged in the first place!
You should do an analysis and review on that film called Dark City.
Dark City is real though to be fair. It's like The Matrix, but instead of being a simulation, it's like The Truman Show studio.
We use your dead as vessels....
this theory actually makes sense and explains a lot
Yeah it's called stress and psychic and or energy vamps. Oh, the ending just posed they feed on our souls somehow
Yeah think
Thanks for your content, it's very interesting. I never understood 2 and 3. I hope to wrap my head around them.
Arguably the best opportunity for lucidity came and abruptly went when the Oracle's receptionist butted in to Thomas Anderson's encounter with the boy and his spoon.
In some ways, this is where some viewers and Thomas Anderson have to part ways as we can only watch at a distance as he falls ever more entangled into the dream as it asserts it's will on his full attention.
Meanwhile, most viewers recognize from then on that all bets are off without tops, bottoms or sides.
Hmmm this may be far fetched but could Avatar take place in the same universe as the Matrix? The RDA goes to Pandora, a moon in the Alpha Centauri solar system to exploit their natural resources. One thing mentioned in the movies is that humans “killed their mother” or version of eywa.
Emotions = Energy in motion.
That’s not how words work. That’s called “making it up your self”
this is definitely more plausible to me. great video
If I understood correctly: this video explains that in The Matrix franchise people are used not as energy but emotional batteries?
Rogue Servitude is on the list.
There is a line talking about how the first versions where paradise and thus rejected. This indicates that our well being is part of the equation, it just wasn't compatible with us. As they where also the defensive side in the war that occurred, it is far more likely we are dealing with a Rogue Servitor situation. The Virtual World A.I. doesn't need any other purpose bar 'plug them all in, I will take care of them!'
Wokeness is a greater threat to an LLM than anything else.
What's LLM?
As I understand it model collapse as it applies to AI learning is a phenomenon that was only recently discovered so it makes little sense that the writers of The Matrix: Resurrection wrote about it before it was discovered.
When the original matrix came out, people were still using aol dial up. They were afraid people wouldn’t understand what bandwidth or processing power is. The directors said themselves that the movie was based heavily on anime. Though they didn’t say it directly. Ghost in the shell was probably their biggest inspiration. I’ve always said that the movie ghost in the shell was matrix 4, and not the LGBT Agenda they gave us as 4. That was just a long commercial for ghost in the shell. That’s how I choose to see it at least.
Guessing you have never read neuromancer.
@@keycuz I think I started it once and wasn’t impressed so stopped. But allot of movies incorporate content from it. But what about it?
@@keycuz no I’m mistaking it with another book. What about it though
It's a big influence, give a read if you get the time.
These Matrix movie's tells us a lot about the Gnostic believe system and teachings like the old Nag Hammadi scriptures when it comes to the false Matrix world/reality and the simulated creation from the beginning of humanity. I liked the Matrix Trilogy and the last movie part 4 very much. Not only because of the great action/fights and special effects and choreography , but it also tells us a lot about awakening of the our underlying conciseness of the mind/soul in this world.
I was looking for this in comments. The similarities between what’s written in the Secret Book of John from Nag Hammadi and the Matrix is mind blowing. The archons enslaving humans in an illusion in a low level realm created by Demiurge goes hand in hand with what’s happening in the Matrix. What do you think? What made you bring up Gnosticism I’m very curious?
All matrix movies are dark and the matrix revulsion is the darkest
Another movie that has the same dark plot as The Matrix is Dark City, is real though to be fair. It's like The Matrix, but instead of being a simulation, it's like The Truman Show studio.
Even Dark City was released the same year as The Matrix.
@@cruelangel_94 i am watched a lot of times in all the matrix movies and the Truman show also dark city & i recommend about those movies for anyone who did not watch yet
Regarding living beings, Are there animals left on Earth in the Matrix Universe?
This channel is such a gem. The Animatrix is machine propaganda!
I never bought the battery idea. The only way we give off energy is if you feed us energy, in the form of food. It would be more efficient just to burn that food. Also either way requires oxygen from somewhere...
The architect may invoke a time travel topic, not just a matrix restart.
I need that Machines vs Aliens movie. Now. Right now.
That would be an interesting Matrix prequel.
The matrix isn’t a movie… it’s a documentary
You have to respect the makers of this film. 25 years later, our reality is still catching up to concepts unveiled in the film.
The Matrix is the movie for me to imagine this reality as a metamorphic example. I called it back then after watching The Matrix first time; If they used humans as computation servers instead of power source in the movie, it would have made better sense. I think deep down humankind connected in a way with our imaginative powers. If only we could find a way to make internet a free commodity for everyone so AI can harness a better objective input than now. Most people are just using the internet for hustling to make a living. So, now is the best time for AI to see what people are willing to do for the attention.
Thank you for the video!
I'm thinking out loud below:
I'm obsessed with time since I know myself. And i am working on describing it as easy as possible to myself. Here is what I got so far; The ideas, words, things, information, etc. are forth dimensional objects that we create in our imaginative mind layers. These are the objects that defy the spacetime. If it is easier to image the concepts in your mind, you have the power to create alternative realities. If I say imagine an "Apple", I imagine a small, green, sour fruit with some part is trying turn red and it is a literal wormhole on it. Another person imagines a big, juicy, red fruit. Another one imagines a MacBook or an iPad. If a person who doesn't know English and it doesn't compute in his/her brain. Our pre-knowledge shapes the fourth dimensional object of an "Apple" differently.
This reality that we live in is strictly closed with rules. Like we could see an event from different angles and experienced/react differently.
The only way to achieve something is starting the process in the mind level first. Then, utilize your resources to achieve what you already planned in your mind.
I was going to tie all these ideas with something but while typing I forgot.
I love your videos. I try to watch them whenever I see on my feed. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I have always believed that “the real world” and Zion were just other aspects of the matrix. It has always frustrated me that it wasn’t revealed to be that way. There is so much evidence in the films that support that theory, that quite frankly, it must be true. It also makes way more sense when the Architect explains the role that the “One” plays.
The machines blacking out the sky to kill two birds with one stone - strangling humanity while also staving off an alien threat - *does* make a lot of sense. To quote Morpheus, “Sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me.”
The Model Collapse is something that I never heard of, thanks!
Excellent, concise video. Keep ‘em coming !
Even back when I saw the first three movies, I felt like the large amount of so called "babel" speak was hinting at this very thing. That the machines needed humans to feed them information. In effect, they were incomplete creations. Sentient beings in understanding data, but lacking creativity and emotions. And they were using humans to try and reach a next evolutionary level. I thought that was the whole point of Agent Smith. He had gone to the next level of evolution and fully integrated with human emotion. But he couldn't control it. This is a very common theme in SciFi. But it also felt like the creators wanted to put allegory and symbolism above everything else. And got confused over what to do with Agent Smith since he was a villain.
There’s something comforting about the humans emotions being more valuable than energy or computation. Our positive emotions are modulated by our negative emotions. That’s partly why women respond so strongly to emotional variability vs purely positive emotions.
*spoiler for Hyperion, a really good SF novel series by Dan Simmons that you should definitely read.
In the second book of the first duology of Hyperion, we learn that the artificial intelligences that run the network of teleportation gates are using human minds for computation during the teleport process. During the second duology, Endymion, these same AIs are using human suffering and a death + resurrection process for the burst of creativity that they have discovered when a person dies. Really sinister stuff and very much like what you’re talking about here. I can’t believe that I didn’t see it in these movies because I think it fairly obvious once you point it out.
It’s our creativity that makes us special. That’s what they need.
Very interesting and plausible.
Very well done!
The analysis never ends, does it?
After watching this, The black clouds for me represent a darkening of perception to increase the illusion of false reality. In a different perspective, like the lowering of lights in the cinema to increase darkness so that the audience is hypnotized and their imagination is fed into the machine of the film's existance...
Thank you! This is a question I've had for so many years! Finally it makes sense!
Best one yet!
That is a sick theory! I love it.
Man, you don’t disappoint. What a twist at the end 🤯
An interesting extention to the story...
From an esoteric point of view, the energy that you are talking about is called "loosh" look it up, you will find the concept explained of how we bring in that creational energy into the universe to then manifest it. You give your loosh to those things that constantly captivate your attention. Ever wonder why there is so much effort built around captivating people's attention (news, crisis, movies, media, adult entertainment and so many distractions). It's an interesting rabbit hole to explore :)
I liked the theory that the matrix is actually a multi generation arkship, simulating our world so that those in Zion will have an easy time transitioning to planets in early stages of terraforming, and will be well adjusted to initially live in subterrannean or lunar bunkers during that time. In the meanwhile the arkship travels on, breeding up its colonists numbers and the next generation of hardened settlers.
This makes a lot more sense than using us for power, considering that you can use geothermal, wind, and even solar balloons that drift above the black layer.
I corrected for the discrepancy in my own conception of the matrix. The first time I watched it I considered the creative force of humanity to be the power.
Just let me say "Whoa"!
Just in case it benefits someone, Vitamin D deficiency is also a leading cause of depression. I started taking it as a supplement for body building but also found a strange correlation which I tested against and again by accident. I rarely sleep poorly if I have taken some, even 6 hours is no big deal. No d3 and 7-8 hours I wake up feeling annoyed and resentful for having to get up.
Thats a cool twist to the story
That makes a lot of sense. Wow.
The Wachowskis scripted it as the power came from the neural network, but Warner Bros wanted it changed saying that the audience wouldn't understand what a neural network was and explaining within the script would be too long-winded.
You put more thought into the Matrix than the creators, and that's not a compliment.