@@valorin5762 High levels of cholesterol have angered the thyroids (thargoids). Scouts have indicated that the thyroids are suffering from weight gain, fatigue, and increased heart attack numbers.
@@ph0enix00 Only when we eat too much and get sick from it and that rarely happens to most people to my knowledge unless you intentionally make that much bacon for yourself. And even then we'll get over it when we get over it and taste bacon again.
One thing I am really interested in learning is whether there will be a "personal homestead" style structure. A simple facility with a house/apartment like structure and a hangar/landing pad. Somewhere you could go to log off at your home / personal HQ.
Ah man, glad to have found u again Ant.. so i got right into elite on xbox a few years back.. stopped playing when i found out frontier werent going to continue updates for consoles.. but this year i finally got my first gaming pc and came across elite on steam.. bought it without a second thought lol.. absolutely astounded by how different it is now.. hoping i can get back into it as much as i did back on xbox before odyssey came along.. ur vids back then were an absolute god send to me, so yeah gonna be back tracking on urr channel and soaking up all the info i can lol.. really glad to have found u again and really happy ur still out here dude.. hoping my elite journey restarts and continues for many moons to come 😁
I'm in a very similar position, but I've had my PC for a while and been dipping back into Elite every so often trying to re learn the game and figure out what on earth is going on with the new stuff!
@Karackal yeah. It's totally possible. Warframe does this. You pay like $10 and upload your image file. They approve or deny, and it goes in the next update. That's how it was 9 years ago, or so, when I did it with my 1 man clan. Same here. Upload image for small fee. Then you also have the 'Squadron' decal/banner/signage you can buy from the marketplace to put on your ship/suit/colony property. They could have a dual banner, too, for powerplay logo plus Squadron logo or name. Also, another way for the company to make a bit more money with stuff we actually want.
I'm just happy we can place ground bases wherever we want. I'm all for choosing the most beautiful vista possible and dropping an installation right there. Like on the edge of a cliff overlooking some planetary rings...
Let's not get our manage our expectations and take this in with a neutral mindset. This way we won't get disappoint if it doesn't not meet our expectations like what happened with the Odyssey expansion :)
yep. Odyssey burned all my trust. This colonization update will likely be a a grind fest and ultimately fall short. Lets see if Frontier is still under the "minimum viable product" category.
Oh my God, they’re going to let us do building interiors for every single building that we build and every space station will be able to put in our own rooms and completely design them. This is going to be great! 😅 you mean that kind of excitement like people assumed spaceship interiors before Odyssey?
It is doable though. FFXIV is also an identically old engine also using deferred rendering and TSCMAA works wonders to fix the aliased crawl the game consistently had before the Dawntrail patch added it. It's a post process antialiasing technique (basically fancy temporally-aware FXAA) and it's open sourced by Intel in their presentations on it so Frontier could definitely add it. If they were willing.
I like it, purchase a claim, then deliver materials. I’ve been grinding the last couple weeks as we don’t know how much this is going to cost. Saved up 20 billion so far
This is the right direction for ED to take imo. Sure ship interiors and better FPS mechanics would be cool, but then it would just be riding SC’s coattails. ED’s massive economy simulation, player-driven story developments, and limitless exploration are what set ED apart and make it shine.
riding Star Citizen's coattails? Bro what you smoking? Star Citizen wasn't the first to do any of the gameplay mechanics they have now. This system building crap has nothing to do Elite Dangerous. We are literally going form exploring planets on our own to now having NPCS do it for us. I feel like we went from hoping FDEV would finally start listening to us with adding more planet types we can land on or ship interiors to this lazy planet coaster wannabe system colonization.
I am surprised it took them this long to implement base building and system colonization, considering there 400 billion star systems to explore in the game
I wonder how this will work for solo players? I would hope, that you could potentially put in "buy orders" for the building supplies and then NPC ships could then begin delivering supplies. If not, then I don't see how solo players could participate in a practical way.
Yeah basically what he said. I imagine it will be similar to the monetary grind for a fleet carrier. I hope they actually allow some form of cooperative investment with this though. I still think the option to have a fleet carrier squad managed and maintained instead of one guy would be great.
@@Sanuske4 what are you talking about? I bought my fleet carrier with exploration and exobio data only and deposited 15bn in the carrier to keep it fully equiped for at least 9 years (gotta say, I was in the black for 6 months exploring, but I love exploring), and I can make the 31 millions that cost to maintain weekly in 3-4 high ground combat zones... it's a grind if you make it a grind
@@Kanitoxx xD are u saying its not a grind/ 6 mounths in the black? Yes i did two years and now i start agin and here and there, still i admint its heavy grind or may it be called timewaster problem.. as 0.07% its all that has been discovred in ED, they could grind it 20 times down and still hold 10 more years un explored. im just random numbers... i could AGREE on calling it a timer user/ I love ED. playing most every day. still for normal gamers to play and get to Colonia or something.. even charging FSD stars is hell far in time LY, also i need to google and use third party for many things. Love the community that make this stuff for us, it should been implemented in the game things from this ideas.., and ofc voice packs could been sold from Frontier and worked better.. instead they throw money for more than the game cost to third party creators and u need to have time or be geek to make them work good. ED should have EDegninner (this one u can install in to the in game) things like this. its kind of a multitask to play ED, still u must google ways to things or places and more. i cant imagine they played this on a console, google on a mobile, or worse on the console while playing. maybe thats why it died on consoles hhh. anyway im not negative I PLAY ED On and Off for 9 years, its still hard to get my friends to play this game. they love it. they dont have time. i see many options in this game to make it kind of a rpg on the side. mostly for the game player base and survival of ED Servers hopfully never shutsdown like the consoles.
It's amazing. The only thing I would like to colonize remote systems. Pulling a chain 10 ly at a time, even for a modest 1000 ly, sounds like torture. If we leave the system with a radius, then the minimum acceptable value for me is 500 ly, in accordance with carrier's jump. I agree to the logistical difficulties, but why would I need a Fleet carrier if it won't help me deliver goods to remote corners of the galaxy? I mean, people on Earth have colonized places that take weeks and months to sail to. But in the 33rd century, why can't I start a colony at a distance that can be covered in a few minutes? Even the noodles ordered through Uber eats from Sol won't have time to cool down in that time, lol.
I got so many questions ! Can we name the facilities in our systems ? Do we collect tax on trade and facility usage in our system ? Can you attack facilities ? Could a group that control a few system eventually become it's own power in powerplay ? As the system architect, how much control do I have over local NPC ? Is there like a local faction which I control, do I control who my station view as friendly / who's blocked entry ? This has so much potential, I do hope they really let all the possibility open to the players.
I hope you can't name facilities, start systems, stations silly things like "Sonichu" or "Station-McStation-face". I'd prefer to keep it close to lore.
Yeah this could either be the best update ever or very underwhelming. Holding out hope that we can rename our systems/stations/bases and collect passive income from the economy
I kinda hope we do get an option to drop some concrete foundations at some point. those cargo yards shown in the footage just look silly to me dumped down on raw dirt. Otherwise, I might actually be carefully optimistic for once about ED.
They say during livestream that bases gonna go throu development proces. So i guess this is first phase, and finally they gonna look like bases we have in game now
Sweet! Can't wait. Just started playing about a couple of weeks ago and trying to get ahold of Odyssey and the PC version. (Originally started playing on Playstation)
10:03 - The Devs "aim to misbehave?" Genuinely sounds like an interesting addition to the game, but like everything in the past - 'it sounds good but what's the catch?' lol I hope this doesn't end up being something for the 1% of the 0.1% to spend their gorillions of credits on, while 99.9999% of the player base will never ever ever be able to grind for years on end to gain enough to even buy a Carrier lol. And let's hope there's no 'weekly colony upkeep' that if you stop playing for a couple weeks and miss a payment, hours and hours of grinding all goes POOF and disappears lol.
System colonization is exponentially more complicated than owning a fleet carrier for instance, and we know how the grind for that went and how the community felt (feels?) about it. All I'm saying is there's most likely gonna be an insane grind. It's just the nature of Frontier, I would be pleasantly surprised if I am wrong. Still, expect it for what it is and it will be less disappointing.
10ly is pretty small they're gonna want to extend that or have some alternative method of getting a system claim because 100% players are going to be bumping into each other trying to get to the Guardian bubble.
OK FDev, *now* you've got my attention. On the info at hand so far, this _looks_ promising ... with the usual caveats based on history of new E:D features.
Sad to say this does not look like will bring me back :( As a solo player, I'm not interested, nor can't purchase, never mind maintain a Carrier. This looks like will be even be more prohibitive. COMPLETE MISSION OVERHAWL is what I'd be really interested in, personally.
Yeah playing this game solo is tough, It's more like job than a game. My hats off to you. Im solo too most of the time, Well i have not played in almost a year now though.
Im quite happy as a mostly solo commander. I can make a billion in exo bio in a night if I'm lucky. Sadly, I don't have more than a night or two per week. I'm looking forward to building something that'll hopefully last until the game shuts down.
If you can’t maintain a single Fleet Carrier then yeah this probably isn’t for you. I’m a solo player and own 4 FCs so of course your mileage may vary.
Why not go slightly part of squadron-mode? You don't need to go full multiplayer. I think it's not too hard to maintain a carrier. Doing just that. If you're part of a squadron it's easy to often get easy 50mil credits missions with very low time investment. Not even much need to communicate.
How much cash does it take to start this, and how much can we make from it? I imagine being the Governor of an entire system is going to lead to some pretty strapping income gains, depending on your location. My major question is: what if I don't want my systems to be involved with Powerplay? I like the idea of being a singular, High Security system under my own authority rather than one of the talking heads, as well as pulling out of Power support if I'd like to. If these systems lead to a certain level of grind automation, that would definitely be interesting.
You are NOT going to be a governor of the system - the system will be ruled by BGS minor faction. Your role will be to a) place pre-made assets onto certain positions and b) pay for them in credits, materials and labour. So it's YOU who's gonna be paing, not the other way around.
we can't even assume we will be in control of the colonized system, from what we are hearing it could be possible it's just player guided expansion, and we don't really get anything out of it.
Super excited! Now I wish I didn't sell my VR headset and my PC. Playing on mouse and keyboard is soo different. I wish ED will continue to grow, this game has so much potential I'm definitely going try this.
This is really good news! I hope they keep the train going with all these feature updates! I would love to be able to land on a water world and have cloud and storm audio!
This sounds very interesting. I have one concern though. Will a solo player have any chance of completing the material delivery phase in time? It's likely that any new colonies created in solo will appear in group and open play as well, and will show up on the relevant starport menu page for other players to deliver to, but in case it's not, I hope the grind won't be too excessive.
My concern as well. It should be doable. I mean - I hope that initial resource gathering should be doable for most players who play solo. Plenty of us there
I would love if they would allow us to use fleet carriers to assist other player with starting colonies. Think making the shovels for the gold diggers. We pay them and they get more use out of their fleet carrier. It would allow for giant endeavors between people getting fleet carriers and people getting colonies. Imagine the fleet carriers becoming the new space stations because all the resources start to flow to the carriers!
I hope they will be willing to let us name our bases and installations with the same kind of approval process they did for factions and what not. Starport Bacon construction underway!
Looks really good, but I wonder if we'll be able to profit from the systems we create and if we'll be able to create our own player factions to control those systems, instead of it being purely individual.
If the new gameplay isn't too excessively grindy or makes the mistake of incorporating weekly upkeep again, I am totally gonna try to colonize a Neutron Star system. Basically a nice rest stop on the exploration neutron star highway 😏
A _potential_ positive step forwards. Let's hope it's good, but we should temper our expectations, lest we be disappointed yet again. I'm expecting a colossal grind.
This would have been nice in 2018 and till now we should have Ship interiors and atmo planets with intelligent life... just place some assets on a lifless planet....
I don't want to but I agree, it looks pretty meh. Players will be excited to 'own' systems of course but the actual assets look pretty generic. May as well just let you 'buy' an already built up system.
I've seen people responding to that with "Focus on the positives" or "You're too hard to please." The game's been out for 10 years. They could've 100% done ship interiors by now. I want to like this, but I don't trust it.
Is this for "End Game" players that have reached maximum levels & not really for early & mid level players? I would still also like some type of Achievement Grind Storyline where you have to perform actions (modified to current player level, noobs a few missions, elite a large number) to put targets for players to follow. The original Amiga version had something like this with periodic Mega ship battles when achieving milestone but is wasn't a fleshed out story, just a "Mission" that would appear.
Joining a squadron I think a lot becomes more viable. Doesn't even need to be most of the time. Switching back & forth between solo & squadron is perfectly doable.
So if I understood this well? We have money, we deploy this thing, we make the new home base, and then all people can use that. It becomes like all of the rest but besides this we also have control to add more things into it? Besides this factionns will be able to work here, so all in all this is like a base that is made by the player that is all right?
Yup. Seems like that. On the top of that - because we will be able to choose locations placement it might be awesome to make the gameplay by this more interesting
If this is coming then its awesome but id love to have my own space stations, theres a missed opportunity, you could have your own mining stations earning u credits in the background, could tie them in to the planetary settlements so that their needs are met by the station
Really hyped for this update. As a out-of-bubble explorer I would love to make my favourite sector my home. (Hope it wouldn't be claimed in some guild powerplay)
I thought it'd be pretty clear that the large portion of the player base would prefer more random variety of the actual space stuff rather than the planet walk-about stuff which alienates everyone in VR. But Frontier doubles down again. Can't wait to see 100 clones of the same base near every mining spot, like we have with fleet carriers.
I can't wait for every single asset you place down to have a weekly maintenance of 1500 lavian brandy and void Opals, where if you miss a single week it shuts down and then disappears.
man if only this stuff came out like...6 years ago? Maybe it would have saved itself, but the absolute mismanagement of this game has been tragic, but I guess it's nice to see SOMEONE in that company TRYING to make cool stuff for the game. Also they keep shirking ship interiors....we have been waiting since day one, give it to us, even if they start out slow with smaller ships and work their way up....just....do it.
1st, don't you have to do that with any and ALL MMO's? Sounds like you've picked the wrong game genre to play if that's a problem. 2nd, you seem to be a very hard to please. I'd hate to be a romantic interest of yours.
@@SKYST0RY I can't agree completely. The game really needs mechanics that allow players to influence the world and create something of their own. This gives motivation to return to the game. No matter how much complex content is added, it can be completely completed and studied, and the content created by players is something dynamic and constantly evolving. I'm not saying that I would not like to see interiors and complex ecology on planets (and not identical corals that somehow colonized 90% of the galaxy) and so on. What the developers are doing now should significantly extend the life cycle of the game.
Even though this is a great feature, I can't help but think about all the other great features that have been abandonned. That's the great Elite Dangerous tragedy, tons of features that have been released and instantly left to rot, not implemented into new ones.
I am pretty sure these *free* updates (PowerPlay 2.0 & System Colonisation) are aligning the playerbase for demand for a new DLC based on access to new planet types in 2025. They have struggled to sell DLCs before so I feel this is a new strategy to boost future DLC sales.
@@HCforLife1 Nonsense. Game's been out 10 years, and those 10 years need to be taken into consideration with future content. Being wary is the right move here.
@@MrDoggo23I get it. But recent elite dangerous lead team changes seem to work. We shouldn't make them accountable for something out of their control. I agree with the past mistakes. Especially abandoning the game for about a couple of years recently
Honestly I really want them to take notes from the X games especially X4 Foundations. Base creation, freewalking through ships, stations and space, and at least a Squadron of NPC Fighters My gripe with X4 is it's level of polish, Elite doesn't have to change its identity but as a Space Sandbox this can be a step in the right direction
Haven't played Elite Dangerous in years, but I'd play it again if we could do true colonization and our story actually had an impact on the galaxy. Looking forward to the update next year.
It's nice that frontier is finally done with Thargoids and seemingly doing some actual work to keep moving the game forward again. But in my opinion they REALLY need to commit to 2-4 new ships a year.
Finally! No man's sky in our Elite! :) I'd prefer more of the 'planet crafter' tho. Looking forwards. This is the first thing since carriers (i've bought one and left it to rust) that would make me return to the game!
This looks really good. Elite Dangerous has an excellent framework with the galaxy map and flight model. Now this is more to actually do within that framework. Just hope it isn't too grindy. :|
Also I wonder if they will add atmospheric worlds, I keep saying the same thing lol, I don’t mind if we are limited in what worlds but I would love to see water worlds or habitable planets with no life
No chance in my opinion. But who knows? Maybe they are working on it? For now we haven't even got atmospheric tech. Current is more like a skybox. There is no real atmosphere density or physics involved.
@@HCforLife1 Another thing to note is the engine. The fossil that runs elite could barely handle Odyssey, and though it's much more optimized now, it still runs less than ideal. Imagine that same engine trying to handle an earth like world, no chance. They'd have to use a different engine, meaning a different game, meaning a sequel. As far as we know Frontier has no plans to move on from ED, even if they did, trying to teach current Frontier devs a new engine would be like teaching seniors how to work a new-fangled mcdonalds kiosk, aka, impossible.
10 years! 10 years took them to realise that this feature was needed in the very beginning of the game! I have no doubts it will be tedious to use this game feature like the rest of the game.
Finally! The feature we all waited for! Bacon Colonisation!
MMMmmm Bacon!
Piiiigggggggs Innnnnn Spacccccccceeeeee!
@@valorin5762 High levels of cholesterol have angered the thyroids (thargoids). Scouts have indicated that the thyroids are suffering from weight gain, fatigue, and increased heart attack numbers.
@@meadowlarkinmontana0406 Raxxla may be a thrombus after all.
@@sergiosala640 makes sense, they probably kill any pilot who discovers it. 😂
🥓🥓🏴☠DEPLOY THE TACTICAL BACON!!!! 🏴☠🥓🥓
@@mjk9388 2:15 XD this is the reference :D
“That's too much bacon.” - No One Ever.
@@ph0enix00 Only when we eat too much and get sick from it and that rarely happens to most people to my knowledge unless you intentionally make that much bacon for yourself. And even then we'll get over it when we get over it and taste bacon again.
One thing I am really interested in learning is whether there will be a "personal homestead" style structure. A simple facility with a house/apartment like structure and a hangar/landing pad. Somewhere you could go to log off at your home / personal HQ.
It won't be
Wow, this is way more in-depth than I had expected. Well done, Frontier.
OMG :D Im only used to seeing your videos from like 7 years ago. So I was beyond confused right now because I never heard of base building in elite XD
Its new. So new its not even in the game yet so many people never heard of it.
Ah man, glad to have found u again Ant.. so i got right into elite on xbox a few years back.. stopped playing when i found out frontier werent going to continue updates for consoles.. but this year i finally got my first gaming pc and came across elite on steam.. bought it without a second thought lol.. absolutely astounded by how different it is now.. hoping i can get back into it as much as i did back on xbox before odyssey came along.. ur vids back then were an absolute god send to me, so yeah gonna be back tracking on urr channel and soaking up all the info i can lol.. really glad to have found u again and really happy ur still out here dude.. hoping my elite journey restarts and continues for many moons to come 😁
I'm in a very similar position, but I've had my PC for a while and been dipping back into Elite every so often trying to re learn the game and figure out what on earth is going on with the new stuff!
Pretty much exactly what I was wanting. Now, we just need our own Squadron insignia upload options for decals/banners/signage.
@@CMDR_Shokwave 10 ly is way too small....
That would require heavy moderation. Or else you'll get a lot of swastikas and porn (because people are awful).
Yeah - beyond wandering around our own starships! 😊 hehe - all of the exploring to try and find earth-like worlds should also factor into this process
@Karackal yeah. It's totally possible. Warframe does this. You pay like $10 and upload your image file. They approve or deny, and it goes in the next update. That's how it was 9 years ago, or so, when I did it with my 1 man clan. Same here. Upload image for small fee. Then you also have the 'Squadron' decal/banner/signage you can buy from the marketplace to put on your ship/suit/colony property. They could have a dual banner, too, for powerplay logo plus Squadron logo or name. Also, another way for the company to make a bit more money with stuff we actually want.
Solo end game content for big farmers, no link with squadrons...
I came back to elite recently, glad you're still making content!
All those star systems I have bookmarked in case this would happen!!! Now I have to choose which one.
@@SingularPing are they within 10 ly of an inhabited system? ....
10 ly is nothing
I'm just happy we can place ground bases wherever we want. I'm all for choosing the most beautiful vista possible and dropping an installation right there. Like on the edge of a cliff overlooking some planetary rings...
My interpretation of the 10 light year thing is you have to daisy chain systems. Even with that idea, 10ly is kind of small
@StMargorach F-Dev REALLY needs to put another zero on that... very likely, they'll do so.
@XenoZbornak exactly. It's why I'm trying to make a fuss about it everywhere :D
Let's not get our manage our expectations and take this in with a neutral mindset. This way we won't get disappoint if it doesn't not meet our expectations like what happened with the Odyssey expansion :)
I thought people were just mad about the Odyssey expansion just because they didn't implement VR for it.
@@Lyriam80 That's wasn't the only reason. It was also overhyped and under-delivered (tons of bugs on delivery)
yep. Odyssey burned all my trust. This colonization update will likely be a a grind fest and ultimately fall short. Lets see if Frontier is still under the "minimum viable product" category.
@@RajKuMaR64-y3q But is it fine now?
Oh my God, they’re going to let us do building interiors for every single building that we build and every space station will be able to put in our own rooms and completely design them. This is going to be great! 😅 you mean that kind of excitement like people assumed spaceship interiors before Odyssey?
They need to add more advanced anti-aliasing techniques, the jaggies are painful in 2024.
Resolution is the only solution currently. 4k or higher makes a huge difference.
15 years old engine. This is Bethesda level.
This is because game always run with some sort of FSR
It is doable though. FFXIV is also an identically old engine also using deferred rendering and TSCMAA works wonders to fix the aliased crawl the game consistently had before the Dawntrail patch added it. It's a post process antialiasing technique (basically fancy temporally-aware FXAA) and it's open sourced by Intel in their presentations on it so Frontier could definitely add it. If they were willing.
Higher your resolution
I like it, purchase a claim, then deliver materials. I’ve been grinding the last couple weeks as we don’t know how much this is going to cost. Saved up 20 billion so far
alright i think thats more than enough
Would be interesting to know the cost of different systems
Did you happen to create a truck that was cyber?
How did you make 20 billions ? ^^
How did you get 20 billion lol
This is the right direction for ED to take imo. Sure ship interiors and better FPS mechanics would be cool, but then it would just be riding SC’s coattails. ED’s massive economy simulation, player-driven story developments, and limitless exploration are what set ED apart and make it shine.
That's true, it would give me more reason to play both games for different things.
riding Star Citizen's coattails? Bro what you smoking? Star Citizen wasn't the first to do any of the gameplay mechanics they have now. This system building crap has nothing to do Elite Dangerous. We are literally going form exploring planets on our own to now having NPCS do it for us. I feel like we went from hoping FDEV would finally start listening to us with adding more planet types we can land on or ship interiors to this lazy planet coaster wannabe system colonization.
I am surprised it took them this long to implement base building and system colonization, considering there 400 billion star systems to explore in the game
I could just as easily argue this is just "copying No Man's Sky."
I love Elite but limitless exploration is boring without variety and things to see and do.
and let's be ready for the grind in a defined time frame .... this will never change
I wonder how this will work for solo players? I would hope, that you could potentially put in "buy orders" for the building supplies and then NPC ships could then begin delivering supplies. If not, then I don't see how solo players could participate in a practical way.
"I don't see how solo players could participate in a practical way." - grind your ass off. :D
Yeah basically what he said. I imagine it will be similar to the monetary grind for a fleet carrier. I hope they actually allow some form of cooperative investment with this though. I still think the option to have a fleet carrier squad managed and maintained instead of one guy would be great.
@@Sanuske4 what are you talking about? I bought my fleet carrier with exploration and exobio data only and deposited 15bn in the carrier to keep it fully equiped for at least 9 years (gotta say, I was in the black for 6 months exploring, but I love exploring), and I can make the 31 millions that cost to maintain weekly in 3-4 high ground combat zones... it's a grind if you make it a grind
@@Kanitoxx What the F are you talking about
@@Kanitoxx xD are u saying its not a grind/ 6 mounths in the black? Yes i did two years and now i start agin and here and there, still i admint its heavy grind or may it be called timewaster problem.. as 0.07% its all that has been discovred in ED, they could grind it 20 times down and still hold 10 more years un explored. im just random numbers...
i could AGREE on calling it a timer user/
I love ED. playing most every day. still for normal gamers to play and get to Colonia or something.. even charging FSD stars is hell far in time LY, also i need to google and use third party for many things. Love the community that make this stuff for us, it should been implemented in the game things from this ideas.., and ofc voice packs could been sold from Frontier and worked better.. instead they throw money for more than the game cost to third party creators and u need to have time or be geek to make them work good. ED should have EDegninner (this one u can install in to the in game) things like this. its kind of a multitask to play ED, still u must google ways to things or places and more. i cant imagine they played this on a console, google on a mobile, or worse on the console while playing. maybe thats why it died on consoles hhh. anyway im not negative I PLAY ED On and Off for 9 years, its still hard to get my friends to play this game. they love it. they dont have time.
i see many options in this game to make it kind of a rpg on the side. mostly for the game player base and survival of ED Servers hopfully never shutsdown like the consoles.
It's amazing. The only thing I would like to colonize remote systems. Pulling a chain 10 ly at a time, even for a modest 1000 ly, sounds like torture. If we leave the system with a radius, then the minimum acceptable value for me is 500 ly, in accordance with carrier's jump. I agree to the logistical difficulties, but why would I need a Fleet carrier if it won't help me deliver goods to remote corners of the galaxy?
I mean, people on Earth have colonized places that take weeks and months to sail to. But in the 33rd century, why can't I start a colony at a distance that can be covered in a few minutes? Even the noodles ordered through Uber eats from Sol won't have time to cool down in that time, lol.
That's why it should be a community/squadron effort.
The one i want is over 5kly away. And takes me like 6 hours just to travel there.
Looks like Frontier is finally cooking with Elite Dangerous!
@RobizGaming2024 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
Crazy thing is is that elite dangerous was in a 10 year development plan and now we gettin bigger updates after the 10 years has passed
@cf9590 I wonder if Braben stepping down from his CEO role back in August 2022 is a contributing factor. 🤔
Too late. Dead game.
I got so many questions !
Can we name the facilities in our systems ?
Do we collect tax on trade and facility usage in our system ?
Can you attack facilities ?
Could a group that control a few system eventually become it's own power in powerplay ?
As the system architect, how much control do I have over local NPC ? Is there like a local faction which I control, do I control who my station view as friendly / who's blocked entry ?
This has so much potential, I do hope they really let all the possibility open to the players.
Please do keep your expectations low as we've been dissapointed by this game studio many times before
I hope you can't name facilities, start systems, stations silly things like "Sonichu" or "Station-McStation-face". I'd prefer to keep it close to lore.
@Kuldirongaze1 I would love to dock at 'Porkie's house of ribs' or some stuff like that :)... Human will do human stuff.
@Gamingsincethe70s lol. Yeah that's fine. But they had better sell ribs by the ton so I can ship it to the Thargoid front :)
Yeah this could either be the best update ever or very underwhelming. Holding out hope that we can rename our systems/stations/bases and collect passive income from the economy
Oh my I’m just so unbelievably excited about this. After all this time finally in a way we’re getting what we asked for. Keep it going Frontier 🎉
Thank you for another video! Great to hear and see news from Elite!
I bet it costs 10 billion per buulding, with 100 million daily upkeep. Oh, and you need to grind 10 hours of a certain mineral per day as well.
Definitely
Not to mention the $100 you will have to spend on a paid DLC to add this feature...
No, it's going to be cheaper than a carrier and there will be no upkeep. They've already said this.
This might be what brings me back to the game
Finally feels like Elite Dangerous is starting to get back on track. Might have to reinstall and get back into the grind.
Great news! I'm especially happy to hear the player controlled factions should get getting an overhaul.
Now I want bacon.
THIS is the Elite Dangerous I've been waiting for!
I'M COMING BACK TO THIS GAME! Totally stoked about base building!!!
I kinda hope we do get an option to drop some concrete foundations at some point. those cargo yards shown in the footage just look silly to me dumped down on raw dirt. Otherwise, I might actually be carefully optimistic for once about ED.
They say during livestream that bases gonna go throu development proces. So i guess this is first phase, and finally they gonna look like bases we have in game now
can't wait for this to turn out the same as the carriers where you have to constantly be grinding for ludicrous amounts of money
The Frontier curse, lol.
thats one of the reasons why i left, i probably dont own a carrier anymore since i stopped giviing it resources. its ridicolous.
This is interesting...might be time to revisit Elite Dangerous soon.
This sounds great, just need to figure out a good way to get my monies up
Sweet! Can't wait. Just started playing about a couple of weeks ago and trying to get ahold of Odyssey and the PC version. (Originally started playing on Playstation)
10:03 - The Devs "aim to misbehave?"
Genuinely sounds like an interesting addition to the game, but like everything in the past - 'it sounds good but what's the catch?' lol
I hope this doesn't end up being something for the 1% of the 0.1% to spend their gorillions of credits on, while 99.9999% of the player base will never ever ever be able to grind for years on end to gain enough to even buy a Carrier lol. And let's hope there's no 'weekly colony upkeep' that if you stop playing for a couple weeks and miss a payment, hours and hours of grinding all goes POOF and disappears lol.
System colonization is exponentially more complicated than owning a fleet carrier for instance, and we know how the grind for that went and how the community felt (feels?) about it.
All I'm saying is there's most likely gonna be an insane grind. It's just the nature of Frontier, I would be pleasantly surprised if I am wrong. Still, expect it for what it is and it will be less disappointing.
10ly is pretty small they're gonna want to extend that or have some alternative method of getting a system claim because 100% players are going to be bumping into each other trying to get to the Guardian bubble.
let the grind begin
OK FDev, *now* you've got my attention. On the info at hand so far, this _looks_ promising ... with the usual caveats based on history of new E:D features.
Awesome! Now we just need the Panther Clipper to haul all the cargo we'll need to build the new system facilities!!
Sad to say this does not look like will bring me back :(
As a solo player, I'm not interested, nor can't purchase, never mind maintain a Carrier. This looks like will be even be more prohibitive.
COMPLETE MISSION OVERHAWL is what I'd be really interested in, personally.
Yeah playing this game solo is tough, It's more like job than a game. My hats off to you. Im solo too most of the time, Well i have not played in almost a year now though.
Im quite happy as a mostly solo commander. I can make a billion in exo bio in a night if I'm lucky. Sadly, I don't have more than a night or two per week. I'm looking forward to building something that'll hopefully last until the game shuts down.
If you can’t maintain a single Fleet Carrier then yeah this probably isn’t for you. I’m a solo player and own 4 FCs so of course your mileage may vary.
@@CameronMiller Exactly, it isn't for me :( Not willing to be grinding exploits non-stop to pay for the things the game currently offers anymore.
Why not go slightly part of squadron-mode? You don't need to go full multiplayer. I think it's not too hard to maintain a carrier. Doing just that. If you're part of a squadron it's easy to often get easy 50mil credits missions with very low time investment. Not even much need to communicate.
How much cash does it take to start this, and how much can we make from it? I imagine being the Governor of an entire system is going to lead to some pretty strapping income gains, depending on your location.
My major question is: what if I don't want my systems to be involved with Powerplay? I like the idea of being a singular, High Security system under my own authority rather than one of the talking heads, as well as pulling out of Power support if I'd like to. If these systems lead to a certain level of grind automation, that would definitely be interesting.
You are NOT going to be a governor of the system - the system will be ruled by BGS minor faction. Your role will be to a) place pre-made assets onto certain positions and b) pay for them in credits, materials and labour. So it's YOU who's gonna be paing, not the other way around.
we can't even assume we will be in control of the colonized system, from what we are hearing it could be possible it's just player guided expansion, and we don't really get anything out of it.
Super excited! Now I wish I didn't sell my VR headset and my PC. Playing on mouse and keyboard is soo different. I wish ED will continue to grow, this game has so much potential I'm definitely going try this.
The bubble is about to get a lot bigger
If there are enough players left to make it grow...
Have you seen how many freaking fleet carriers there are? There's plenty of people @@Momo5775
@@Momo5775a lot of us are waiting for this to drop
@@HCforLife1 There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Tendrils extending towards all sorts of interesting sites I hope, like famous stars outside the main bubble.
This is really good news! I hope they keep the train going with all these feature updates! I would love to be able to land on a water world and have cloud and storm audio!
Anyone remember Distant Worlds 2 - Building a station at SagA? Astroid surface mining for hours?
This sounds very interesting. I have one concern though. Will a solo player have any chance of completing the material delivery phase in time? It's likely that any new colonies created in solo will appear in group and open play as well, and will show up on the relevant starport menu page for other players to deliver to, but in case it's not, I hope the grind won't be too excessive.
My concern as well. It should be doable. I mean - I hope that initial resource gathering should be doable for most players who play solo. Plenty of us there
@@HCforLife1 Here's hoping.
Absolutely, we have been waiting for this freaking update for so many years. it is still the most beautiful VR space game there is.
I have always wished for this. This is going to be amazing
Holy shit WAIT, we doin PLANETARY STUFF AS WELL? Daaaymmmm , ok, they are truly cooking, I did NOT expect buildable planetary facilties!
I would love if they would allow us to use fleet carriers to assist other player with starting colonies. Think making the shovels for the gold diggers. We pay them and they get more use out of their fleet carrier. It would allow for giant endeavors between people getting fleet carriers and people getting colonies. Imagine the fleet carriers becoming the new space stations because all the resources start to flow to the carriers!
I have been asking and wishing for this for years.
I've been asking for this since opening day. They are finally realizing player structures and crafting are the way to hold players long term.
I hope they will be willing to let us name our bases and installations with the same kind of approval process they did for factions and what not. Starport Bacon construction underway!
Looks really good, but I wonder if we'll be able to profit from the systems we create and if we'll be able to create our own player factions to control those systems, instead of it being purely individual.
This is my worry. Sounds like a massive time and credit sink with no talks of any gains for doing it.
I guess I need to go find that Earth-like planet I found years ago and prepare to make a base in that system.
If the new gameplay isn't too excessively grindy or makes the mistake of incorporating weekly upkeep again, I am totally gonna try to colonize a Neutron Star system. Basically a nice rest stop on the exploration neutron star highway 😏
All has to be within 10ly of bubble
@@Andromedon777 No, it has to be withing 10ly of an inhabited system, so any system already populated will do
@@octi118 Ah so you can chain it. News to me!
This is Elite. Of course it's going to be a grindfest.
If only on foot gameplay was as optimized as inside spaceship and rover. Having 20fps on foot and 100+fps in everything else is frustrating
"Ler's strap a crap FPS onto a space sim, what could go wrong?!?"
Ok this is interesting and a positive step forwards
A _potential_ positive step forwards. Let's hope it's good, but we should temper our expectations, lest we be disappointed yet again. I'm expecting a colossal grind.
This would have been nice in 2018 and till now we should have Ship interiors and atmo planets with intelligent life... just place some assets on a lifless planet....
I don't want to but I agree, it looks pretty meh. Players will be excited to 'own' systems of course but the actual assets look pretty generic. May as well just let you 'buy' an already built up system.
I've seen people responding to that with "Focus on the positives" or "You're too hard to please." The game's been out for 10 years. They could've 100% done ship interiors by now. I want to like this, but I don't trust it.
It's a good thing anyway.
But. You're. Still. Here.
@@Tamburello_1994 yeah, watching many videos from ant :)
Is this for "End Game" players that have reached maximum levels & not really for early & mid level players?
I would still also like some type of Achievement Grind Storyline where you have to perform actions (modified to current player level, noobs a few missions, elite a large number) to put targets for players to follow. The original Amiga version had something like this with periodic Mega ship battles when achieving milestone but is wasn't a fleshed out story, just a "Mission" that would appear.
Joining a squadron I think a lot becomes more viable. Doesn't even need to be most of the time. Switching back & forth between solo & squadron is perfectly doable.
This will bring me back to Elite
OK. This caught my attention. I'm going to wait for the end of this story and, if things work out, I'm even thinking about playing again.
10ly sounds like a grind. Just imagine trying to build a bridge from the bubble to Colonia.
Sounds great in theory. I'm curious to hear about cost and upkeep.
So if I understood this well? We have money, we deploy this thing, we make the new home base, and then all people can use that. It becomes like all of the rest but besides this we also have control to add more things into it?
Besides this factionns will be able to work here, so all in all this is like a base that is made by the player that is all right?
Yup. Seems like that. On the top of that - because we will be able to choose locations placement it might be awesome to make the gameplay by this more interesting
If this is coming then its awesome but id love to have my own space stations, theres a missed opportunity, you could have your own mining stations earning u credits in the background, could tie them in to the planetary settlements so that their needs are met by the station
That containers and the cranes for moving these remind me of one thing: there is no ship in the game to move those things.
Wow NOW they add something I'm looking forward too
fuck yes, this looks exactly like what i described my dream mechanics as a few years ago
Really hyped for this update. As a out-of-bubble explorer I would love to make my favourite sector my home.
(Hope it wouldn't be claimed in some guild powerplay)
I thought it'd be pretty clear that the large portion of the player base would prefer more random variety of the actual space stuff rather than the planet walk-about stuff which alienates everyone in VR. But Frontier doubles down again. Can't wait to see 100 clones of the same base near every mining spot, like we have with fleet carriers.
This is pretty awesome.
Any chance of a video about the X4 roadmap that was just dropped?
I can't wait for every single asset you place down to have a weekly maintenance of 1500 lavian brandy and void Opals, where if you miss a single week it shuts down and then disappears.
Looking forward to seeing how earthlike worlds are involved in colonization
man if only this stuff came out like...6 years ago? Maybe it would have saved itself, but the absolute mismanagement of this game has been tragic, but I guess it's nice to see SOMEONE in that company TRYING to make cool stuff for the game.
Also they keep shirking ship interiors....we have been waiting since day one, give it to us, even if they start out slow with smaller ships and work their way up....just....do it.
Just feels like more grinding. Ship interiors. Atmospheric planets. Aliens and wildlife on planets. Frontier still missing the mark.
1st, don't you have to do that with any and ALL MMO's? Sounds like you've picked the wrong game genre to play if that's a problem.
2nd, you seem to be a very hard to please. I'd hate to be a romantic interest of yours.
And VR.
@Play_In_Traffic jumping to ad hominem shows how weak minded you are and uninteresting.
@@SKYST0RY I can't agree completely. The game really needs mechanics that allow players to influence the world and create something of their own. This gives motivation to return to the game. No matter how much complex content is added, it can be completely completed and studied, and the content created by players is something dynamic and constantly evolving. I'm not saying that I would not like to see interiors and complex ecology on planets (and not identical corals that somehow colonized 90% of the galaxy) and so on. What the developers are doing now should significantly extend the life cycle of the game.
Elite is not for the lazy-minded.
Even though this is a great feature, I can't help but think about all the other great features that have been abandonned.
That's the great Elite Dangerous tragedy, tons of features that have been released and instantly left to rot, not implemented into new ones.
Why don't you focus on the positives?
I am pretty sure these *free* updates (PowerPlay 2.0 & System Colonisation) are aligning the playerbase for demand for a new DLC based on access to new planet types in 2025. They have struggled to sell DLCs before so I feel this is a new strategy to boost future DLC sales.
@@HCforLife1 Nonsense. Game's been out 10 years, and those 10 years need to be taken into consideration with future content. Being wary is the right move here.
@@HCforLife1 Tell that to console players, and those who purchased Odyssey day one.
@@MrDoggo23I get it. But recent elite dangerous lead team changes seem to work. We shouldn't make them accountable for something out of their control. I agree with the past mistakes. Especially abandoning the game for about a couple of years recently
I kind of wanted to actually govern a system but... ehh... what's the point if you don't actually own anything
Damn, that colonization ship looks sweeet!!
Sorry, huge fan of industrial ships. Loved the Rorqual and Bowhead in Eve 😁
Now this makes me wanna play again, and bring some friends.
Honestly I really want them to take notes from the X games especially X4 Foundations. Base creation, freewalking through ships, stations and space, and at least a Squadron of NPC Fighters
My gripe with X4 is it's level of polish, Elite doesn't have to change its identity but as a Space Sandbox this can be a step in the right direction
Already saving money for an FC. Close to 2 billion.
Looks like I’ll keep on grinding for base building when it’s out.
Nice my PC can barely hold this game at 15 frames but I still played every now and again I wonder what this will do to me now but I can't wait
Will we be able to build supply chains to compliment other system stations, again making money by reduced costs, etc.
Haven't played Elite Dangerous in years, but I'd play it again if we could do true colonization and our story actually had an impact on the galaxy. Looking forward to the update next year.
I just wanna know if we can rename our systems/stations/planetary bases once colonized. Would love to be able to build a narrative using these systems
Every time I'm making bacon now, I'm going to yell DEPLOY THE BACON when opening the package.
They're allergic to ship interiors or something...
Also, their obsession with Thargoids is disturbing.
Even if colonisation doesn’t actually do much, other than populating the system with star ports etc. it might just be enough to keep me interested.
It's nice that frontier is finally done with Thargoids and seemingly doing some actual work to keep moving the game forward again. But in my opinion they REALLY need to commit to 2-4 new ships a year.
Do you have the link for the livestream this came from, I would very much like to watch it.
Finally! No man's sky in our Elite! :)
I'd prefer more of the 'planet crafter' tho.
Looking forwards. This is the first thing since carriers (i've bought one and left it to rust) that would make me return to the game!
I hope the likes John Carmack sees this system architect stuff and it's aesthetic and enjoys it! (looking at you Anachronox)
SICK!
This looks really good. Elite Dangerous has an excellent framework with the galaxy map and flight model. Now this is more to actually do within that framework. Just hope it isn't too grindy. :|
cant wait to fly down low in vr to look at my city ive built in the black
Also I wonder if they will add atmospheric worlds, I keep saying the same thing lol, I don’t mind if we are limited in what worlds but I would love to see water worlds or habitable planets with no life
No chance in my opinion. But who knows? Maybe they are working on it? For now we haven't even got atmospheric tech. Current is more like a skybox. There is no real atmosphere density or physics involved.
@@HCforLife1 Another thing to note is the engine. The fossil that runs elite could barely handle Odyssey, and though it's much more optimized now, it still runs less than ideal. Imagine that same engine trying to handle an earth like world, no chance.
They'd have to use a different engine, meaning a different game, meaning a sequel. As far as we know Frontier has no plans to move on from ED, even if they did, trying to teach current Frontier devs a new engine would be like teaching seniors how to work a new-fangled mcdonalds kiosk, aka, impossible.
Holy cow, this is HUGE.
i wonder if the mats required will be as numerous as repairing stations which took months ??
I am sceptical, but it might just be what I need to get back into the game. Finally exploring gets more meaningfull.
And I remember when they said this game was dead.
I would like some more exploration stuff... Some more wonders to see.
10 years! 10 years took them to realise that this feature was needed in the very beginning of the game! I have no doubts it will be tedious to use this game feature like the rest of the game.