....................................Most all of your Negatives are addressed and solved if you would have bought the the MUCH nicer model 450h+ "F" Sport! The 450h+ F Sport has * adaptive suspension ( no squeal of tires * Especially if you replace Immediately like I did, with Michelin Non Run Flat Tires. Result = much smoother ride and better elec & fuel economy because of less rolling resistance)... Additionally, you addressed a Lag in start of acceleration.....This is the Slow time for the dog eared turbo to spool up...99% of all Euro and Korean vehicles use Turbos for more horse power However the Run really HOT!..& Truly cut down on the reliability of engine/ICE.....This is.SOLVED in the 450h+ as there is No Turbo but rather a (naturally aspirated ICE) in addition to the extra 40 more HP with and instantaneous (no lag torque out of hole with elec/batt)........to say nothing of how Silent the car runs on Batt only for 49 miles....... simply plug in to 120Volt at home or a hotel w extension cord, however always having the ICE that uses 89 oct reg gas and gets : Get THIS, , 89 MPG IN HYBRED MODE.... and will charge while you are driving!
This is actually a good looking car but the packaging is ridiculous up here in Canada. The first package is 15k bucks.... YES 15,000 DOLLARS! My reaction is, moving on....
2023 NX 182.7 inches long. 1998 RX 180.3 inches long. It’s progression, I suppose. But when do the larger ones get bumped out for being too large? Or do we just keep bringing in smaller ones to replace them? 🤷🏼♂️
rustlesee: there not replacing them, comparing the 99 debut model is an interesting comparison, but the original RX 300 was actually bigger on the inside. the NX is only slightly bigger, but there not actually replacing them. so what you have here, is a sporty version of the RX 350, although since the 350 has similar styling that can be the confusing part. the main difference, is the way the NX is styled. you can clearly tell, it's meant to be a drivers car, whereas the RX 350 has a much more conservative style. i can live with that though, because the RX is a little bigger, and you have more rear seat room that can fit two kids or 3. the NX on the other hand would be a tight squeeze even for kids, the one that really don't make sense is the UX, that's even smaller. i will say to your point, there are alot of small crossovers these days. And trust me, despite what these auto youtubers say, the regular everyday person is not asking for them. no all these manufacturers are doing it to maximize profit, all these crossovers have nothing to do with buyers interest, it's all about what the industry wants. consumers are creatures of habit, and they know that. in other words, the average buyer doesn't care what's out there, as long as they have vehicles that can get you from point A to B. it's only the insiders and car geeks, that think this is what people want. but trust me these companies never ask what regular people want, because if they did V6's would not be disappearing on a regular basis. so the industry basically decided, hey we wanna load our lineup with as many suv's as possible. so that's why you have a suv for every size and shape now, and alot of them look sporty. well unfortunately that styling choice, also reduces interior room. so while the NX might be slightly bigger than the original RX 300, Lexus at that time, was not about appealing to driving enthusiasts and car geeks. so they were quite roomy on the inside for a two row passenger family vehicle.
I like this model a lot, but the last time I looked, it wasn't available anywhere near my area. The styling is distinctive and the powertrain options are decent. The pricing isn't bad, for what you get. Thanks for a great channel. 😎👍
I have an NX 350 2022 and we put close to 4000 km (we're in Canada). A few things: The infotainment is not fully multitask so when you get a notification on your phone and you are in navigation, it will switch over from nav to Apple carplay this can be quite annoying. We notices that carplay sometimes will just stop working and come back after a while, Lexus couldn't figure it out and seems that more people have had this issue. The other very confusing and annoying thing is the profiles and the memory for the seats. Between me and my wife we are always screwing up each other's profiles and it's overly complicated. Now there's one cool thing i didn't hear in the review, which is the lane changing assist. The NX can actually change lanes for you if you are in adaptive CC and you press and hold the turn signal. That is some really cool feature
Nothing is premium. My 2020 Camry XSE v6 is more luxurious inside than this. And it has a pano roof and much much better performance than the nx350 while simultaneously being more efficient and refined
Hey Micah when are you going to review the VW Arteon? It's the sporty, hipster sportback that no one has ever heard of. As one Bakersfield man to another, you gotta do it man! I watched your dad deliver the weather for years. You owe us. Lol.
8:00 I would like to point out that my NX450h+ does not have that "delay" they talk about. 8:30 keep in mind these two are near their 50s. The shift selector works just fine and I can switch gear without looking.
Hi Micah! Thanks for the NX review! Question: How reliable is Lexus'/Toyota's TSS 3.0 lane tracing? Does it match or better KIA/Hyundai's Lane Following Assist/Highway Driving Assist? Thanks!
Wake UP!...............Drive a 450h+ "F" Sport wirh Circut Red & Black interior....Mine is Leather W Carbon Fiber...Red Brake Calipers and Red F Sport badges with Black GLOSS spoke Mags............... Atomic Silver ..w/ lil Gold specks and changes color....Far & away more sophisticated than a Beeeeemer cedes and genesis Volvo Never even close unless you are a school teacher!
@MicahMuzio Thank you for the great review. I just test drove the F-Sport and felt the bolstering was especially intrusive at my shoulders. I am 5'11 with wider shoulders and yes, have a long torso! Since I didn't get to drive it very long, did you find it irritating over a few days of driving it? Also, how did you find the seats in the non-F Sport sears? Thank you!
@@naveenthemachine Now that was IGNORANT...............A dopey Volvo....Just WOW...a xc60??????........they are a school teacher and love Un-Reliability and plummeting Re-Sale swedish headaches.
Not sure why no one can understand the shifter. Their analog shifters you would pull it back into D to “go forward.” And to go into reverse you would push it back forward to R. And just a bit further to P (starting position) to park. Their digital shifter is literally the same as their analog shifter, however it doesn’t physically move anymore as it isn’t mechanically connected to the transmission.
@@rustlesee the venza is also on the same architecture as the rav4. In fact lots of cars are on the TNGA K platform and the Camry is the bedrock of that architecture
What makes this luxury? That may sound like a weird question since it's a Lexus but really, how is this more luxurious than a CX50 which isn't considered luxury? 🤔
350H Premium by far the best configuration choice. ✅ Infotainment is incredible. 👍. Big 14” display amazing 👍. Gear shifter sucks. (Need an FSport version of it).
.........................jUS' wow! ARE YOU IGNORANT...DO YOUR HOMEWORK...please....The 450H+ "F" Sport is *** FAR and away a much superior configuration and when you buy that specific model you Make 13K when you drive it off the lot i.e. econ / 101 and Many many want but can Not get the 450h+ F Sport. I counter your Green Check Mark with a ROTTEN🍅
My gripe is I would like more of a greenhouse feel when driving. Test drove the 350AWD, enjoyed the balance of ride and permeance, but that greenhouse feel was lacking. I felt confined.
Micah The fact that anyone would buy this is beyond me. It falls apart in just about every metric Exterior isn’t to the level of polish that we see in the x3 GLC xc60 q5 gv70 Rdx cx5 cx50 venza tuscon sportage Santa Fe The interior looks too much like a Toyota. In fact cover up the Lexus logo and the first thing you’d say is “nice interior for a Camry or rav4” The tech is too gimmicky and useless even with the 14in screen. No Home Screen, no built in navigation, no physical buttons. Everything’s in the touchscreen. The touch sensitive steering wheel controls are a mess and the gauge cluster is lackluster. Especially since for 2023 you can get a 12.3in lcd cluster in a rav4 or venza. The powertrains are lackluster at best. The 250 has the same noisy unrefined 4 cylinder as the Camry and rav4 (remember it starts at 40K). The 350 turbo is nothing to write home about since it’s slower than everything else in this class but approx on par w a cx5 turbo and Santa Fe calligraphy. The 350h is really more of “it’s efficient but why even bother?” The 450h+ is just overpriced badge engineering at its finest. $60K and you only get 300hp😂. For reference Micah you can get 300hp in a Camry for SIGNIFICANTLY less as in at least $20k less and you get that from a v6… Handling falls behind everything else in its class. Cx5 CRV Santa Fe all the Germans and genesis and Acura. Also don’t fall for “Lexus driving signature”. Its not real. It’s a phony facade. It doesn’t exist. It’s virtually nonexistent marketing overhype. Lexus’ pathetic marketing at their finest Ride quality isn’t up to the level of polish that’s seen in the xc60 w the air suspension, or the Lincoln Corsair. It’s not quiet inside because of those ridiculous run flat tires It’s not practical. Legroom is tight, trunk space is lackluster, and no spare tire whatsoever.
A lot of what you say here is valid, and I'm a NX350 owner. That said, you're totally wrong about the Corsair. It's low quality, flimsy garbage with poor visibility. On the NX, if you get 18-inch tires, you get a smooth, quiet and comfortable ride. The handling is terrible, however. The power is sufficient-to-good, but nothing that stands out in the crowd. The technology is outstanding when it comes to safety features. The main benefit of the car was really that Lexus dealers weren't charging huge markups at the time when everyone else was (especially Genesis) - at least not in my area.
That's an interesting take, but the general public doesn't seem to care because I'm starting to see these everywhere and I believe it's 3rd best selling in the segment so far.
Remove the gv70. It looks like an egg at the back and at a certain angle the quarter window looks odd. Its proportion is so bad. Its reliability is as bad as its design. Owners complain in Less than a year of ownership it starts having problems. Its a glorified hyundai thats it. Also remove kias and hyundai. Those were junk. Easy to steal and bad reliability like german cars…but at least german are better in other aspects. Mazda is good great driving dynamic and good interior and also reliable but not as good as lexus. Your comparison is really bad.
Sunday and the Muzio Family's 2022 Lexus NX review...perfect:)!!!
That is one awesome looking car forsure
Micah & Evie 🤗❤️ Love Your Awesome Reviews ~ Love The NX ❤
Thanks for sharing such a lovely comment. Cheers!!
....................................Most all of your Negatives are addressed and solved if you would have bought the the MUCH nicer model 450h+ "F" Sport!
The 450h+ F Sport has * adaptive suspension ( no squeal of tires * Especially if you replace Immediately like I did, with Michelin Non Run Flat Tires. Result = much smoother ride and better elec & fuel economy because of less rolling resistance)... Additionally, you addressed a Lag in start of acceleration.....This is the Slow time for the dog eared turbo to spool up...99% of all Euro and Korean vehicles use Turbos for more horse power However the Run really HOT!..& Truly cut down on the reliability of engine/ICE.....This is.SOLVED in the 450h+ as there is No Turbo but rather a (naturally aspirated ICE) in addition to the extra 40 more HP with and instantaneous (no lag torque out of hole with elec/batt)........to say nothing of how Silent the car runs on Batt only for 49 miles....... simply plug in to 120Volt at home or a hotel w extension cord, however always having the ICE that uses 89 oct reg gas and gets : Get THIS, , 89 MPG IN HYBRED MODE.... and will charge while you are driving!
This is actually a good looking car but the packaging is ridiculous up here in Canada. The first package is 15k bucks.... YES 15,000 DOLLARS! My reaction is, moving on....
350H Eliminates turbo lag. Looks like a Mazda 🕶
The hybrid is just a fancy rav4 you know that right
That's what I said. This looks like a new 2024 redesigned CX5. Lexus definitely was inspired by that car.
Yikes! I thought Eve was his mom!!!
I tested the NX350h, the broken-road sound deadening was poor. The whole frame felt falling apart while turning.
2023 NX 182.7 inches long.
1998 RX 180.3 inches long.
It’s progression, I suppose. But when do the larger ones get bumped out for being too large? Or do we just keep bringing in smaller ones to replace them? 🤷🏼♂️
Have you heard of the DX?
This isn't that far off the original GX at 188.1 inches long. Of course that is taller at 74 inches height, but still...
People will buy a car that they fit in, some may move from RX into NX
Very interesting comment. My brothers 2007 highlander is the size of the rav4 or even smaller.
rustlesee: there not replacing them, comparing the 99 debut model is an
interesting comparison, but the original RX 300 was actually bigger on the
inside. the NX is only slightly bigger,
but there not actually replacing them. so what you have here,
is a sporty version of the RX 350, although since the 350 has
similar styling that can be the confusing part.
the main difference, is the way the NX is styled. you can clearly
tell, it's meant to be a drivers car, whereas the RX 350 has a much
more conservative style. i can live with that though,
because the RX is a little bigger, and you have more rear seat
room that can fit two kids or 3.
the NX on the other hand would be a tight squeeze even for kids,
the one that really don't make sense is the UX, that's even smaller.
i will say to your point, there are alot of small crossovers these days.
And trust me, despite what these auto youtubers say, the regular
everyday person is not asking for them.
no all these manufacturers are doing it to maximize profit,
all these crossovers have nothing to do with buyers interest,
it's all about what the industry wants.
consumers are creatures of habit, and they know that.
in other words, the average buyer doesn't care what's out there,
as long as they have vehicles that can get you from point A to B.
it's only the insiders and car geeks, that think this is what
people want. but trust me these companies never ask
what regular people want, because if they did V6's
would not be disappearing on a regular basis.
so the industry basically decided, hey we wanna load our lineup
with as many suv's as possible.
so that's why you have a suv for every size and shape now,
and alot of them look sporty.
well unfortunately that styling choice, also reduces interior room.
so while the NX might be slightly bigger than the original RX 300,
Lexus at that time, was not about appealing to driving
enthusiasts and car geeks.
so they were quite roomy on the inside for a two row passenger
family vehicle.
I like this model a lot, but the last time I looked, it wasn't available anywhere near my area. The styling is distinctive and the powertrain options are decent. The pricing isn't bad, for what you get. Thanks for a great channel. 😎👍
Whatever you do, don’t skip leg day.
Ain’t that the truth, brah
You guys forgot to mention the head up Display.
I have an NX 350 2022 and we put close to 4000 km (we're in Canada). A few things: The infotainment is not fully multitask so when you get a notification on your phone and you are in navigation, it will switch over from nav to Apple carplay this can be quite annoying. We notices that carplay sometimes will just stop working and come back after a while, Lexus couldn't figure it out and seems that more people have had this issue. The other very confusing and annoying thing is the profiles and the memory for the seats. Between me and my wife we are always screwing up each other's profiles and it's overly complicated. Now there's one cool thing i didn't hear in the review, which is the lane changing assist. The NX can actually change lanes for you if you are in adaptive CC and you press and hold the turn signal. That is some really cool feature
Excellent remarks! I love hearing comments from actual owners.
Love the car but interior is disappointing...there is nothing premium about it. Do like the panoramic sunroof.
Nothing is premium. My 2020 Camry XSE v6 is more luxurious inside than this. And it has a pano roof and much much better performance than the nx350 while simultaneously being more efficient and refined
That's because it's RAV4
It looks like so toyota. My '19 nx looks and feels so lexus like luxurious
Since recently starting a family this has become my one stop shop for reviews
We're grateful to have your support. Hi5s to you and your family!
I second this. Things he covers are important for family owners and would be owners
That Sonic blue color is beautiful!
Hey Micah when are you going to review the VW Arteon? It's the sporty, hipster sportback that no one has ever heard of. As one Bakersfield man to another, you gotta do it man! I watched your dad deliver the weather for years. You owe us. Lol.
Concentrate on your driving, not talking your head off to camera.
8:00 I would like to point out that my NX450h+ does not have that "delay" they talk about.
8:30 keep in mind these two are near their 50s. The shift selector works just fine and I can switch gear without looking.
I absolutely love this distinct family review of the NX. ❤
Hi Micah! Thanks for the NX review! Question: How reliable is Lexus'/Toyota's TSS 3.0 lane tracing? Does it match or better KIA/Hyundai's Lane Following Assist/Highway Driving Assist? Thanks!
Lexus in on of the best in the business
@@vs-1993 no it’s not. The Hyundai Kia systems are superior
@@naveenthemachineHe said one of the best, not the best.
@@naveenthemachinenah hyundai kia systems are worst. Genesis software for example is buggy
Love this car ❤ 😍
Acura rdx a-spec better
Hey Lexus, window goes down when switch is pushed down.
What's up with your shifter???
I ordered a 2023 nx350h that will be here in the next 2 weeks, can’t wait.
It’s nice but the Volvo xc60 and bmw x3 are definitely more luxurious
Anything’s more luxurious than the lipstick wearing rav4😂
Wake UP!...............Drive a 450h+ "F" Sport wirh Circut Red & Black interior....Mine is Leather W Carbon Fiber...Red Brake Calipers and Red F Sport badges with Black GLOSS spoke Mags............... Atomic Silver ..w/ lil Gold specks and changes color....Far & away more sophisticated than a Beeeeemer cedes and genesis Volvo Never even close unless you are a school teacher!
Ok I finally decided to get a pair of flying eyes sunglasses 🕶️
Daughter rolling her eyes at 2:10... haha!
That was funny.
@MicahMuzio Thank you for the great review. I just test drove the F-Sport and felt the bolstering was especially intrusive at my shoulders. I am 5'11 with wider shoulders and yes, have a long torso! Since I didn't get to drive it very long, did you find it irritating over a few days of driving it? Also, how did you find the seats in the non-F Sport sears? Thank you!
Thanks for the review. Just picked up a 2024 same model and colour!
Great review…front grille is a deal breaker.
Why? It looks fantastic
Keep it up at the gym Bro! You got this!!! 😎
I’m considering the NX 250 instead of the NX350h. The higher price of the 350h doesn’t compensate the better MPG for me.
LEXUS ❤️👍🏻
If you have access to a plug where you park overnight I suggest the 450h+ trim level.
No it’s not worth the money. For the money there are simply better options like thr xc60
@@naveenthemachine I’m considering the NX 250 instead of the NX350h. The higher price of the 350h doesn’t compensate the better MPG for me.
@@PabloTheThinker in that case why wouldn’t you just save and buy a RAV4 limited? It’s literally the same car
@@naveenthemachine Do you know if the Rav-4 Limited has the HUD and 14” display?
@@naveenthemachine Now that was IGNORANT...............A dopey Volvo....Just WOW...a xc60??????........they are a school teacher and love Un-Reliability and plummeting Re-Sale swedish headaches.
Amazing videos, interacting with me 👍🔔🤝
Nice job!
Not sure why no one can understand the shifter. Their analog shifters you would pull it back into D to “go forward.” And to go into reverse you would push it back forward to R. And just a bit further to P (starting position) to park. Their digital shifter is literally the same as their analog shifter, however it doesn’t physically move anymore as it isn’t mechanically connected to the transmission.
Strange request,, what cargo brand are you wearing?
The climate controls and weird door handles make this a no go for me.
Hey Micah, where can I get the Porsche 904 t-shirt you are wearing??? Love it!
Great review as always!😸
8 speed gearbox ? isn't it e E-cvt ?
No, the NX 350 has a traditional 8-speed automatic. An e-CVT is only found in the hybrid models (350h & 450h+)
@@MicahMuzio I see . thanks. We can only get the hybrids around here
@@Bogdan_Ch Ah. Makes sense! I’m curious, where do you live?
I think I'm look at the ES for my senior citizen
My friend has a 23 NX F Sport and I feel like a barely fit in the seats because the bolstering is so intrusive! Nice vehicle aside from that.
Sorrrrrry You are fat!!!.........I weigh 181 and 6' tall and seats are PERFECT!!!
Micah isnt wrong is very hot 😏🥵
Loved the video so much so bought one and named the car "Micah" it's blue and it's amazing. Got very lucky to find one and that too at a great price
That pause was ridiculous!
Why I have a question; how does the NX compare to its sibling the Rav ?
About the same length. Just higher quality things you see/touch in the Lexus. So just depends on your personal needs.
Extra year of warranty, more tech, quality interior and ride, + you can get a turbo engine.
The interior isn’t much better than a rav4 limited tbh
Heck even a Toyota Venza is more luxurious inside than the nx.
@@naveenthemachine, well the Venza has many similarities to the RX in other parts of the world as The Harriers. The lines are blurred heavily.
@@rustlesee the venza is also on the same architecture as the rav4.
In fact lots of cars are on the TNGA K platform and the Camry is the bedrock of that architecture
The redline color is the nicest version of this new Lexus.
This Sonic Blue one is my favorite!😁
Love it
Cool
😊👍🏼
Thanks!
Apologies. I just saw your super thanks. Hi5 for your kindness!
What makes this luxury? That may sound like a weird question since it's a Lexus but really, how is this more luxurious than a CX50 which isn't considered luxury? 🤔
Compare to previous gen nx, this one looks and material feels cheap. I'm considering cx5.
450h+ F Sport has ALL carbon Fiber trim in and out and F sport badges in RED...with one on the Dash.
350H Premium by far the best configuration choice. ✅
Infotainment is incredible. 👍. Big 14” display amazing 👍. Gear shifter sucks.
(Need an FSport version of it).
I’m considering the NX 250 instead of the NX350h. The higher price of the 350h doesn’t compensate the better MPG for me.
@@PabloTheThinker I’ve switched gears. RAV4 Hybrid XLE Premium.
.........................jUS' wow! ARE YOU IGNORANT...DO YOUR HOMEWORK...please....The 450H+ "F" Sport is *** FAR and away a much superior configuration and when you buy that specific model you Make 13K when you drive it off the lot i.e. econ / 101 and Many many want but can Not get the 450h+ F Sport. I counter your Green Check Mark with a ROTTEN🍅
Trying to read between the lines of Evie's comments. I hazard a subtle disapproval. Pass! 🤣
so surprised you think the NX is "confusing". both my wife and i are 73 and we think it's very easy to learn. we own one.
My gripe is I would like more of a greenhouse feel when driving. Test drove the 350AWD, enjoyed the balance of ride and permeance, but that greenhouse feel was lacking. I felt confined.
The answer to your Lack of " dopey "GREENHOUSE" feel " will be solved if you take dopey AOC with you on your drive!
Micah The fact that anyone would buy this is beyond me. It falls apart in just about every metric
Exterior isn’t to the level of polish that we see in the x3 GLC xc60 q5 gv70 Rdx cx5 cx50 venza tuscon sportage Santa Fe
The interior looks too much like a Toyota. In fact cover up the Lexus logo and the first thing you’d say is “nice interior for a Camry or rav4”
The tech is too gimmicky and useless even with the 14in screen. No Home Screen, no built in navigation, no physical buttons. Everything’s in the touchscreen. The touch sensitive steering wheel controls are a mess and the gauge cluster is lackluster. Especially since for 2023 you can get a 12.3in lcd cluster in a rav4 or venza.
The powertrains are lackluster at best. The 250 has the same noisy unrefined 4 cylinder as the Camry and rav4 (remember it starts at 40K). The 350 turbo is nothing to write home about since it’s slower than everything else in this class but approx on par w a cx5 turbo and Santa Fe calligraphy. The 350h is really more of “it’s efficient but why even bother?” The 450h+ is just overpriced badge engineering at its finest. $60K and you only get 300hp😂. For reference Micah you can get 300hp in a Camry for SIGNIFICANTLY less as in at least $20k less and you get that from a v6…
Handling falls behind everything else in its class. Cx5 CRV Santa Fe all the Germans and genesis and Acura. Also don’t fall for “Lexus driving signature”. Its not real. It’s a phony facade. It doesn’t exist. It’s virtually nonexistent marketing overhype. Lexus’ pathetic marketing at their finest
Ride quality isn’t up to the level of polish that’s seen in the xc60 w the air suspension, or the Lincoln Corsair. It’s not quiet inside because of those ridiculous run flat tires
It’s not practical. Legroom is tight, trunk space is lackluster, and no spare tire whatsoever.
Definitely true!
A lot of what you say here is valid, and I'm a NX350 owner. That said, you're totally wrong about the Corsair. It's low quality, flimsy garbage with poor visibility. On the NX, if you get 18-inch tires, you get a smooth, quiet and comfortable ride. The handling is terrible, however. The power is sufficient-to-good, but nothing that stands out in the crowd. The technology is outstanding when it comes to safety features. The main benefit of the car was really that Lexus dealers weren't charging huge markups at the time when everyone else was (especially Genesis) - at least not in my area.
That's an interesting take, but the general public doesn't seem to care because I'm starting to see these everywhere and I believe it's 3rd best selling in the segment so far.
Given that you live in Vancouver and there are tons of these in Richmond, why not ask the owners?
Remove the gv70. It looks like an egg at the back and at a certain angle the quarter window looks odd. Its proportion is so bad. Its reliability is as bad as its design. Owners complain in Less than a year of ownership it starts having problems. Its a glorified hyundai thats it.
Also remove kias and hyundai. Those were junk. Easy to steal and bad reliability like german cars…but at least german are better in other aspects. Mazda is good great driving dynamic and good interior and also reliable but not as good as lexus. Your comparison is really bad.
Are you a Pat Metheny fan? I here lots of it in your video’s music, especially on KKB.
That tacked on infotainment screen looks super tacky, it's not going to age well.
It looks dated already and that was the case when it was unveiled
Looks so toyota. Previous gen nx is very luxurious
to each their own.............Frankly the 14" screen and Lexus interface is light years ahead of Euros and Korean....I have had both!