@@Navin4061 which I precisely why I was surprised he was hesitating so much. Of course, Dutch is not his native language, so he might just feel insecure about it.
@@helios1336 he has stated that his first language is russian 2nd is english 3rd is dutch 4th japanese 5th nepali he doesnt use dutch frequently but is still fluent at it maybe he works in some international company or something but he said he uses more english than dutch
@@tsukuyomin No. I checked the pronunciations by different Dutch persons by googling. Many of them pronounced it differently but most of them were closer to his (Prag) pronunciation than to anyone else. And I know Amish Giri is Dutch, buy the way.
@@MrSyntheticSmile Sorry but he doesn't properly do a sch sound and the first e he pronounces as a short e as we would say in Dutch, and last, the ng sound is also pronounced differently. He's closer than most but any Dutch person would pick him out if you had to guess who isn't speaking Dutch.
Hmm....interesting. I didn't know the Dutch 'sch' was different than the German 'sch'. I think Donchenko has a trick up his sleeve. I looked up the Wikipedia article for Scheveningen and switched the language to Russian. I see that in Cyrillic, it is spelled Схевенинген. I would have said exactly what he said, and that gets you closer to blind guessing in Latin characters.
@@YtubeUserrGiri, Donchenko, Van Foreest, Parham, the others all kinda make the same mistakes (skeveningen or scheveninjen), Abdusattorov gets dead last.
Fun fact: it is said that the Dutch resistance during World War 2 used the word 'Scheveningen' as a shibboleth to unmask potential German spies, since Germans would have difficulty pronouncing this word. This is also mentioned in the Wikipedia article on shibboleths.
It is funny as an Indian to see this.... I went to Scheveningen and my colleagues asked me to pronounce it..... It is from old dutch WW2 movie when Dutch asked soldier to say Scheveningen to check they are not a german spy
Yes but he always has a slight accent when talking dutch. still very clean but I didn't expect him to nail it this much, better than me probably@@dinfast
Van Forrest is the only native Dutch, so I guess whatever he says would be the how it is supposed to be pronounced? In other words, the Dutch 'sch' is different than the German 'sch'.
Indians have pronounce every letters. We just cannot leave even a word. That is how our language is. On there hand in french there are letters which r standing silence for no region. Like silent witness. Queues!
How ironic that Alexander Donchenko, a German, manages to pronounce it correctly. 😂 The story goes that the name of the town was used during the German occupation of the Netherlands to detect German moles, since Germans supposedly couldn't pronounce the hard "ch".
Thank you for making this video! I asked this in the comments and it happened. As a Dutchman, I am glad to hear the correct pronunciation. The story goes that in WWII, the word "Scheveningen" was used as a shibboleth by the resistance, among others, to identify Germans. They would not be able to pronounce the word correctly. Props to Donchenko who pronounced it very well and everyone else for trying. (Anish and Jorden can speak Dutch, so this wasn't a challenge for them.)
Both Sanskrit and Dravidian languages triumph here. They are very natural and you don't see any hidden agenda like Latin. You sound what you see, same as Latin. No awkward silence of letters
The issue is that languages developed first in the oral form and existed as such for millions of years. Written scripts were a much recent development (relatively speaking) and therefore, there need not be a great concordance between the manner in which a word is spoken versus how it is written.
That's what the majority of languages do. Even dutch. They have phonetic spellings. Sanskrit and Dravidian languages are not at all special in that way. English (and French for example) are the few examples of languages with an alphabet which is almost useless because it's not written phonetically.
I love how Anish took so long warming up to then completely nail the pronunciation.
Well, being Dutch, he should lol. It's in the Netherlands.
@@Navin4061 which I precisely why I was surprised he was hesitating so much. Of course, Dutch is not his native language, so he might just feel insecure about it.
@@tsukuyominwhat do you mean? Isn’t he Dutch?
@@tsukuyomin what are you talking about? He is fluent in Dutch and lives there for more than half of his life.
@@helios1336 he has stated that his first language is russian 2nd is english 3rd is dutch 4th japanese 5th nepali he doesnt use dutch frequently but is still fluent at it maybe he works in some international company or something but he said he uses more english than dutch
Gukesh be like seven engine😂
😂
Kramnik about to post an essay about Gukesh next.
😂😂😂😂
Can't believe this guy is 17
@@schmuwabubecause of his facial hair? 😂
I love Wei Yi's "whisper until you're right" approach
🤣
gukesh : ......"ENGINE"
I guess Gukesh is a car enthusiast 🏎🏎🏎
@@thecalculatedcreativecoder1428 or a stockfish fan
@@monika7063 Lol. Idk why I forgot chess engines were a thing
I like how pragg Tamiliarized the word 😂
No, he did not. Actually his was the closest to the original Dutch pronunciation.
@@MrSyntheticSmile As a native Dutch speaker, wut?
@@tsukuyomin No. I checked the pronunciations by different Dutch persons by googling. Many of them pronounced it differently but most of them were closer to his (Prag) pronunciation than to anyone else. And I know Amish Giri is Dutch, buy the way.
@@MrSyntheticSmile Sorry but he doesn't properly do a sch sound and the first e he pronounces as a short e as we would say in Dutch, and last, the ng sound is also pronounced differently. He's closer than most but any Dutch person would pick him out if you had to guess who isn't speaking Dutch.
@@alexsupertramp5600 Agree.
Sharingan 💀
lol
I vote for this 😂
Meanwhile ding walked off silently.
To my Flemish ears, in a blind test the native Dutchman (Jorden) would get only 3rd place (behind Giri and Donchenko), but that's just me.
Ja, ik denk dat ook
Hmm....interesting. I didn't know the Dutch 'sch' was different than the German 'sch'. I think Donchenko has a trick up his sleeve. I looked up the Wikipedia article for Scheveningen and switched the language to Russian. I see that in Cyrillic, it is spelled Схевенинген. I would have said exactly what he said, and that gets you closer to blind guessing in Latin characters.
Agreed. Donchenko's confident smile was pretty on point too.
What about the others? lol. Could you rank all of them?
@@YtubeUserrGiri, Donchenko, Van Foreest, Parham, the others all kinda make the same mistakes (skeveningen or scheveninjen), Abdusattorov gets dead last.
Anish be like: I got this
Seven engine💀😂
Whoever is coming up with these ideas for videos deserves a raise 😂👏
Fun fact: it is said that the Dutch resistance during World War 2 used the word 'Scheveningen' as a shibboleth to unmask potential German spies, since Germans would have difficulty pronouncing this word. This is also mentioned in the Wikipedia article on shibboleths.
Too bad if the Germans were as good as Donchenko to pronounce it haha
@dinfast but isn't sch in german pronounced "sh"? I actually pronounced it wrong because of thinking it was just like in german
@@dinfast yep, that is true. I get what you meant now
Man I love the way Anish said it. So beautiful
Respect to Anish who said it even better than Jorden (who is born in The Netherlands).
It's the second language effect. We actually had to learn it all by hand.
Meanwhile Hans Niemann: "Shove an engine"
Seven engine 💀
Why did y’all zoom in on Alex like this 😭😭
Parham looking like he's processing letter by letter
Siva lingam-wei yei
Just to mention.
Garry always simplifies it to Shevengen
Parham's face! Not gonna lie I have a huge mancrush on that dude. Legend!
The way Yi tries to whisper his way through is killing me
As a dutch person this is hilarious 😂
Jordan pronounced it in a classy way, doesnt matter even if it is the correct one😊
Jordan said it wrong!
I had an SUV and the engine would break down a lot, through it's life it went through six, maybe scheviningens
For a moment I heard from the asian player, "seven ninjas"
'Shove an engine'
I would rank Jorden Van Foreest 1, Alexander Donchenko 2 and Anish Giri 3.
Gukesh - Shaven Engine 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Where's Ding and Ju?
Hospitalized because they broke their tongue
@@TheMunigrotbroooooooo
Gukesh said seven engines
Anish did it better than the mother tongue Dutch speakers 😎
They couldn't calculate their way out of this one
i ask google translate this 'Scheveningen' and she replied 'Scheveningen' so 'Scheveningen' is the coreect pronounciation
wrong it's actually 'Scheveningen'
0:25 let's just go with "shave an engine" then.
Anish nailed it holy fuck les gooo
You should have tried with world champion himself. It would be fun 😂
It is funny as an Indian to see this....
I went to Scheveningen and my colleagues asked me to pronounce it.....
It is from old dutch WW2 movie when Dutch asked soldier to say Scheveningen to check they are not a german spy
where's jordan ?
Anish Giri actually nailed it
Yes but he always has a slight accent when talking dutch. still very clean but I didn't expect him to nail it this much, better than me probably@@dinfast
0:25
❤ 😂
Seven engine, yeah right
That was hilarious to watch!!
Some words have pronouncing problem like this.😂
More like Shotgun 😂
Jorden lowkey sounded like a foreigner pronouncing it lol
It's pronounced Scheveningen. Yes, I'm a native speaker of Scheven.
We want Magnus to pronounce this....
shaven ying yang.
I think gukesh and parhams pronunciation were correct. ?
Thumbnail matters
Van Forrest is the only native Dutch, so I guess whatever he says would be the how it is supposed to be pronounced? In other words, the Dutch 'sch' is different than the German 'sch'.
Anish sounds more like how most Dutch people pronounce it to me
Indians have pronounce every letters. We just cannot leave even a word. That is how our language is. On there hand in french there are letters which r standing silence for no region. Like silent witness. Queues!
I'm an Indian too bruh we are in fact taught silent letters in school but yeah for a foreign language we can't predict how to say it.
French language sounds like someone is trying to cough out😅
No it in our language i guess@@em4six348
In Dutch it is the same
For no "region" well.......
Ramanujan
Who pronounced better?
I pronounce it like agad does. Which is shev-eh-ning-gen.
Iskhe ni vin gan 😂
shinanigans💀
Lvdalasan?
Nah I'd just say sharingan 😂
How ironic that Alexander Donchenko, a German, manages to pronounce it correctly. 😂
The story goes that the name of the town was used during the German occupation of the Netherlands to detect German moles, since Germans supposedly couldn't pronounce the hard "ch".
😂😂
ske1in gen
Where is magnus
Right pronounciation is "Scandinavian"
So who is correct?
Is it sheven in gen? This is what sagar bhai pronounce
7 Engine❤
Pragg: Kamalingam?
Abdusattorov Welldone!
Shivan Ayngaran, see, so easy, what's so hard about it. Piece of cake for Tamil speaking Indians.
Damn, Prag's Tamil accent!
Its so easy just say Scheveningen
Gukesh ICANT
Nodirbek 😂😂😂😂😂 come on it's not chess
Shane Nigam
00:16 Pragg turned into a Villager for a second
Wei Yi really has a big head.
Muttu swami iyer!
CHEVENINGUEN
sharingan-gan
jonathan
Sharingan
Thank you for making this video! I asked this in the comments and it happened. As a Dutchman, I am glad to hear the correct pronunciation. The story goes that in WWII, the word "Scheveningen" was used as a shibboleth by the resistance, among others, to identify Germans. They would not be able to pronounce the word correctly. Props to Donchenko who pronounced it very well and everyone else for trying. (Anish and Jorden can speak Dutch, so this wasn't a challenge for them.)
Shinigami
GM's are introvert
Smarter people tend to be more introverted and judgmental
Gukesh fans🤗
7 engine
Shiv lingam
Jorden and Anish sound ridiculous.
No you're all pronouncing it wrong it's SChevEningeN
Schwarzenegger
Jai shree nandan hahaha🤭
Shave an engine
Both Sanskrit and Dravidian languages triumph here. They are very natural and you don't see any hidden agenda like Latin. You sound what you see, same as Latin. No awkward silence of letters
The issue is that languages developed first in the oral form and existed as such for millions of years. Written scripts were a much recent development (relatively speaking) and therefore, there need not be a great concordance between the manner in which a word is spoken versus how it is written.
They may triumph, but not with Dutch pronouncation ;-)
Mate the word is Germanic not Romance. It's got nothing to do with Latin.
@@flippert0 dutch german and french pronouncation are the hardest fr
That's what the majority of languages do. Even dutch. They have phonetic spellings. Sanskrit and Dravidian languages are not at all special in that way. English (and French for example) are the few examples of languages with an alphabet which is almost useless because it's not written phonetically.
evalbar
Ofcourse it's gonna be the Sicilian specialist, Anish giri, who'll pronounce it the right way.
well, he is Dutch after all (not by ethnicity/origin, but by citisenship and he's been living there most of his life)
no views, first
Excellent 🎉
This is intellectual level of top players! What a shame!
cringe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nl-Scheveningen.ogg