How to Countersteer: What You Need to Know and What You Can Safely Ignore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Countersteering is often talked about but how exactly do you use it to become a better rider? In this video, we look at what exactly countersteering is, how to use it to help your riding and then dispel some of the myths and bad advice surrounding the discussion of its use. Before you get distracted and confused by all of the countersteering advice out there, watch this video! For moto gear and more videos, visit www.tularosamoto.com
Respectfully, you are wrong to explain it in this way.
If you do not consciously acknowledge that you are counter-steering the bike when going left or right in our own minds,
what will we most likely do wrong in an emergency situation aka swerve?
Maybe as a mentor we should say that anything above parking lot speeds on a bike is
For anyone learning to ride this is how it's done, and it is incredibly simple to learn and memorize.
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"Press forward on the RIGHT handlebar you will go RIGHT"-----------"Press forward on the LEFT handlebar you will go LEFT "
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I really enjoy your channel thanks!
Thanks for your comment. My response to how to deal with emergency situations is to practice braking and turning for emergency situations. There's no need to practice countersteering separately. Once you separate out countersteering from steering, riders get confused and reaction times go down. Learn to steer the bike - and countersteering will come naturally.
Best way to learn how to countersteer is to learn how to ride a bicycle well, then take it down a steep hill with a turn at the bottom. Also, wear pads and a helmet.
Counter Steering is just a part on how to ride a motorcycle. Always remember that the tyres are the ones that are in contact with the round and its grip is finite for Acceleration, Braking, and Turning or a fine mix of them. Relying heavily on the principles of counter steering alone is a pretty much a guaranteed death.
2:43 gyroscopic forces are not what keeps a bike up. It's the caster angle of the front wheel causing the contact patch of the front tire to move in a way that stabilizes the bike.
Counter steering is done on bicycles, but they are so light that you don't notice it. Riding a bike is not just getting fast enough that "gyroscopic forces" keep you up, you are instead just turning the handlebars to make the bike drive in a way that it stays under you.
I think, if there's no gyroscopic force, then its like replacing the wheels with ice-skating shoes. No matter how much caster angle, eventually will fall to the ground while moving in straight line at speed.
Self standing bike ( with only two wheels contact to the ground, without any other movement) have gyroscopic wheels inside it. Also, reaction wheel toys demonstrate this clearly.
Caster angle - referred to as rake on a motorcycle - won’t keep a bike standing up on two wheels. You need the bike to move to do that. Rake however does affect the handling and makes it easier for the bike to stay up and moving in a straight line. The more rake, the more stable the bike. The more stable the bike, the more counter steering is necessary to get the bike to lean and turn into a corner. Rake and it’s brother trail and how they affect handling however is a separate discussion - that’s worthy of its own video. There’s always something more to talk about…
The Caster effect of Trail is indeed what’s in play here, obviously it’s meaningless if you’re standing still, but it’s indeed incorrect to suggest the rotating mass is what keeps the bike stable.
I love when someone trashes unnamed “experts” while presenting themself as exactly such. Another of the fallacious arguments used in this vide. Namely, in this case, the “appeal to authority” fallacy.
Bingo !!!! :D the key is, to learn how to ride a bicycle first, then ride a motorcycle, counter steering should be second nature to you and does not require thinking. To much drama around the subject of counter steering :D you will not survive a second on a two wheel vehicle if you do not apply counter steering, in fact counter steering happens from speed 0 :D
Nice to see someone gets it! 😉
Question: What do your head and eyes need to be doing when you're negotiating a turn ? I've heard that if you're not looking where you want to go, Countersteering won't mean a thing. Thanks
Have you checked out our other video on How to Ride through Corners Faster and Safer? That will give you the foundation for proper cornering technique. I’m working on a vision video however that won’t be out for a while yet. In any event, don’t worry about countersteering. Work on the techniques in my cornering video and you’ll be riding safer and faster.
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Bro you have never ridden a motorcycle obviously..Your eyes do not turn your 600LB motorcycle. Only thing that turns your bike at speeds over 10 MPH is countersteering.
Counter steering works at any speed, calling it, "just turning" doesn't make it not counter steer
Yes you are countersteering when you’re riding a motorcycle. The point I made was that you don’t need to worry about it separately from your normal steering process.
You can counter steer a motorcycle in a walking speed? Because I can just balance out and turn my motorcycle like a car in a very slow speed.
At slow speed you can just turn your wheel without countersteering. You can also countersteer. It's just not necessary at slower speeds like it is at higher speeds. It's why riders who can't countersteer will way overslow their corner entries. They need to get the bike moving slowly enough that countersteering isn't necessary to turn the bike.
@@tularosamoto On a 2-wheele vekicle counter steering is needed at any speed.
I respectfully disagree. Counter steering isn't an option, its the only way physics works on a moving bike. It's just that for people like us who have been riding all our oives its so intuitive we dont even realise we're doing it.
Theres quite a few vids online about this, i like this guy: th-cam.com/video/9cNmUNHSBac/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kvYvQQPh07ye_Itb
If you can’t turn in enough to make a corner then you can’t turn at all. Idk why you would say you can turn normally at speed “but not if you want to live”
That comment was never made in this video.
This I’d pretty terrible advice for multiple reasons, even for bike riders. A motorcycle at speed is an entirely different situation than a bike. Your arguments are largely fallacious.
Sorry but bikes and motorcycles operate under the exact same steering/countersteering principles when it comes to turning. The fact that one vehicle has an engine and one doesn’t has no impact on the physics of how these two wheeled vehicles operate.
Sorry, this was some of the worst advice I’ve seen in a long time. Giving away your rear brake while riding hard on a sports bike? !!!!! 😳
Giving away the only brake that can actually stop you (front) while riding on loose surfaces?!!!! 😫
Dangerous advice! Learn how to use both your brakes in varying conditions on all surfaces.
Well, feel free to argue with World Superbike Champion and two time World Endurance Champion Sylvan Guintoli about not using the back brake. He made clear that he never once touched it during his championship season. Besides that, this is common knowledge among skilled sport bike riders.
If you’re on a bike and you do leave the asphalt and hit the dirt, the surest way to crash your bike is to hit the front brake. I’ve seen guys head straight over the bars after hitting the front brake to slow down on the dirt. You’re welcome to do whatever you like but if you plan to hit the front brake once you leave the asphalt of the track for the dirt of the runoff, be sure to bring a truck to haul your bike home.