The Science of Hobbit Gluttony

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  • Because smaller animals have to eat more relative to their bodyweight, Tolkein’s hobbits need to eat a lot - not for comfort, but for survival.
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  • @MinuteEarth
    @MinuteEarth  2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

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    • @ellie.bowers.
      @ellie.bowers. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like food

    • @le9038
      @le9038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heheh

    • @hwaett
      @hwaett 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi

    • @_Smarf_
      @_Smarf_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is weirdly not scientific, like at all. Doesn't seem to fit the channel. Not a fan of content like this. Usually a big, big fan. I like to learn, just not about mythological creatures eating habits.

    • @johnny5isalive2020
      @johnny5isalive2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys need to stop with the jokes! Stop! Have you done a video on permaculture or more specifically the relationships between microorganisms, earth, water, poop, food, etc.? Think it's right up your alley! I better hear some gut wrenching comedy about eating poop too!

  • @UrpleSquirrel
    @UrpleSquirrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1500

    Hobbits are farmers, for the most part. In a pre-industrial world, farming was a very labor-intensive job. You'd need seven meals a day to keep up with the calories you burn off doing all that work. And for the wealthy hobbits of leisure, like Bilbo, the culture of eating seven meals in a day would still be there, even if he's not doing the physical work to burn off all those calories.

    • @TeRenner123
      @TeRenner123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      only that bilbo was uniqe that he only eat 3 times a day and recularly wanders to Riventale

    • @64standardtrickyness
      @64standardtrickyness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Where's your evidence that farmers in ancient times ate 7 meals a day?
      The many meals where supper, dinner, luncheon, afternoon tea etc seems to have been exclusively upper class.

    • @TeRenner123
      @TeRenner123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@64standardtrickyness we actually have the common dinner Plans for a lot of cultures.
      Classical Egyptains farmers eat round about 4000 cal of food in 5 meals
      While the higher ups eat 3 times and 3000 cal
      In ancient Greece and rome people eat 3 times a day.
      A small meal Made from leftovers of Dinner for Breakfast.
      Than an optional lunch mostly Made from Cold foods or warm ones you bought from essentaly fast food ventors.
      This actually survived in the southern german Tradition of Vesber what is a bread and could platter meal you even get in a lot of Restaurants in south germany and Austria.
      Than the main meal Dinner called Cena
      The First real warm meal.

    • @tafazziReadChannelDescription
      @tafazziReadChannelDescription 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      that's a stupid theory, all human cultures were farmers and none have retained 7 meals a day, what's the difference between humans and hobbits then?

    • @GothosRedux
      @GothosRedux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@tafazziReadChannelDescription Hobbits are fictional.

  • @b14angelojohnleydctolentin37
    @b14angelojohnleydctolentin37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1179

    This feels like a film theory episode

    • @lietajucemaciatko383
      @lietajucemaciatko383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      but without cringe jokes and fillers

    • @matthewsaunders4820
      @matthewsaunders4820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is science!

    • @minnightxx_8276
      @minnightxx_8276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah

    • @notfunny3397
      @notfunny3397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      But better and more to the point

    • @aaronwu1572
      @aaronwu1572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yeah and condensed into 3 minutes instead of extended to 15. And also backed by real science. And also good.

  • @neonbunnies9596
    @neonbunnies9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    Finally, MinuteEarth is asking the most important questions

    • @sandifirmansyah1988
      @sandifirmansyah1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      rather than choosing fictional creatures it is better to compare with real living things. like the comparison of the portion of food between humans and mice, if you compare humans with hobbits, I think it's hard to imagine because hobbits are fictional creatures
      if talking about fictional creatures in educational programs, wouldn't it be better to explain whether these creatures can live in the real world or not (like the dragon episode)

    • @Monkeymario.
      @Monkeymario. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      for me i eat vitamins, maybe snack or desert, breakfest, maybe snack or desert, lunch, maybe snack or desert, dinner, maybe snack or desert

  • @stormrunner4081
    @stormrunner4081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    When your world building is so robust that even science from 70 years later agrees with you

  • @199NickYT
    @199NickYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    "Four full HOBBIT-SIZED meals"--that's the real distinction here.
    They eat more often but the amount per meal and overall is FAR LESS than what a human can/would eat.

    • @lucasmochi91
      @lucasmochi91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I think they've considered the volume inside a hobbit's belly (a.k.a how much food they can eat each meal) to count the amount of meals

    • @199NickYT
      @199NickYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@lucasmochi91 exactly. I just wish they made it more obvious earlier on that's the distinction they were going for.

    • @drmaggot1173
      @drmaggot1173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Except the various depictions of what they eat in the movie is not at all less than what a human would eat. For instance when you look at the plate of Bilbo in the beginning of The Hobbit, or when Pippin eats 4 full Lembas Bread when it is said than a single bite would be sufficient for an adult man/elf.

    • @199NickYT
      @199NickYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@drmaggot1173 I forgot about this. Makes the video a little less genuine.

    • @YongJoonPaek
      @YongJoonPaek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Not to hate on this channel, I actually love their videos. However this video is VERY forced and sweeps a lot of important assumptions under the rug. I'm pretty sure they started at the meal ratio they needed to get and just backwards engineered the algebra to get at the the hobbit's weight of 16kg.

  • @DaveTexas
    @DaveTexas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I’ve been a type 1 diabetic since childhood. One thing I learned years ago was that my blood sugar was much easier to control if I ate many small meals throughout the day. No giant blood glucose spikes from carbs that way. Perhaps the Hobbits are simply better at spreading their meals out to keep their blood sugar stable.

    • @webaccount284
      @webaccount284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dad is type 2.

    • @webaccount284
      @webaccount284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! My cousin has diabetes type 1 and my dad has type 2!

    • @Monkeymario.
      @Monkeymario. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      good idea i have diabetes i have a kinda simalar diet to hobbits already but maybe i should be even more simalar

  • @kulrigalestout
    @kulrigalestout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Whenever I meet someone who has watched or read LotR, we invariably end up in a discussion about where in Middle-earth we'd like to live. My new friends are always all about Rohan or Gondor, because they look so cool! Rivendell and Lothlorien are common answers as well, because they're so pretty and elegant! Even have a few who want to live in Dale or the Lonely Mountain (after a bit of Smaug removal, of course). So far, I'm the only one who would want to live in the Shire. I mean, ya get plenty to eat, there aren't wars all the time, and those homes are the comfiest and coziest in all the realms. Let the wizards fiddle about with their rings, I have a lasagna to bake!

    • @Desimere
      @Desimere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lonely mountain without the Smaug removal. Wouldn't say no to a pet dragon. If not for the dragon to keep the people away, it wouldn't even be lonely.
      Ofc i would need some powers to be safe, but assuming i had them, i would first provoke and annoy him (in a kind, joking way, nothing too serious) until he's so done with it he has even given up trying to kill me. Once he knows that's not going to happen anyway, i would subtly start suggesting the benefits to having me as a friend and show him some appreciation for having him around, small gifts and whatnot. And so on. Until i become his greatest treasure.

    • @ellie2041
      @ellie2041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My dream home is a hobbit cottage. I would never leave.

    • @tbakhalid4781
      @tbakhalid4781 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same… I mean who would want to stay live with Men who always are on the verge of war or with Elves who although elegant but are too calm and stay on vegetables diet. I would rather live a cozy, fun and healthy life in Shire. You eat lots of food, have a nice little house and gets to enjoy nature. That’s the most comfortable thing in life.

    • @MariaMartinez-researcher
      @MariaMartinez-researcher 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      And, there is a tavern, and parties. I bet there are big fat weddings, and that even funerals are enjoyable.

  • @PancakeTheKat
    @PancakeTheKat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    “Being small, and being hungry”
    …. That sounds like me

  • @robinvik1
    @robinvik1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Hobits aren't actually naturally small. They just have such a high metabolism that no hobbit have ever been had access to the amount of food required for them to be able to grow to full size.

    • @net343
      @net343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well that makes sense

    • @CallMeMimi27
      @CallMeMimi27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      wow how much did bilbo baggins grand father eat? he was so big he could ride a horse!

    • @myrddinemrys1332
      @myrddinemrys1332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@CallMeMimi27 Great great granduncle actually. It was his grandfather Gerontius 'the Old Took's granduncle Bandobras 'the Bullroarer' Took.

    • @benthomason3307
      @benthomason3307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is that actually from the book?

    • @myrddinemrys1332
      @myrddinemrys1332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@benthomason3307 No, not about their height being due to metabolism no.

  • @nefariousyawn
    @nefariousyawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    16kg sounds a little light for a hobbit, but I haven't put that much thought into it either.

    • @TJStellmach
      @TJStellmach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Proportionally, such a hobbit is built like a 115kg human (assuming a 3 foot hobbit and a 5'9" human).

  • @eathonhowell7414
    @eathonhowell7414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Stuff like this is why I actually found biology interesting. I clearly remember asking my college biology teacher, after hearing why cell DNA degrades over time, if fantasy races with extended lifespans worked because such degeneration was slowed for them. And to his credit he thought that was an interesting theory and entertained me for a few minutes discussing more about it.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fantasy is a great source of questions and science loves question asking.
      Why is the sky blue?
      Why do we have 5 toes?
      How big is the Sun?
      What is the mass of a proton?
      If our lifespan is ≈80yrs and an Elf's is ≈200yrs (probably wrong number) then what is the difference using the laws of science?
      All are equally valid questions in science and can have surprisingly complex or involved answers. And one day those answers or processes could be insanely important.
      Take:
      Whats a good way of finding prime numbers?
      1800's Euler finds an answer, he has no computers and primes are just a math oddity for his era.
      1970's computers are getting stonger and encryption need to be a thing, and primes having a property of 3*7 = 21 and since 3 & 7 are primes 21 only factors to 1*21&3*7 and if you do this with insanely large numbers no one could ever unfactor it prime numbers just made internet security work and prime numbers are now worth the worlds economy.
      It took 200yrs for that one discovery for "pure math" to become the backbone of society, imagine what other strange discoveries found by answering "stupid questions" could become in a few hundred years. Yours could be the secret to biological immortality (not dieing of old age/disease).

    • @Jamie-tx7pn
      @Jamie-tx7pn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taking science from fantasy is just theoretical questions that people call you a nerd for. It doesn't specifically have to be a Tolkien elf, it could be something like "Would slower degeneration cause you to live longer. If so, what rate of degeneration would be needed to live 2,000 years?" The answer to "do fantasy races have extended lifespans because of slowed degeneration?" is "who the fuck knows ask the author". And the author probably won't know or care. Definitely a stupid question when you phrase it like that. I'm something of an author myself (just hobby writing) and if you asked me that about one of my characters I'd say "because she has a lot of special fantasy magical magic fantasy energy magic fuck off". lol

  • @MrAqr2598
    @MrAqr2598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Four full meals and three snacks… then breakfast, luncheon, dinner, and supper would count as the meals, and second breakfast, elevenses, and afternoon tea are the snacks.

    • @tafazziReadChannelDescription
      @tafazziReadChannelDescription 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      difference between dinner and supper?

    • @anirbanhasan8988
      @anirbanhasan8988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@tafazziReadChannelDescription Normally they are synonyms, but in Hobbit Culture, they are different.

    • @ChrissieBear
      @ChrissieBear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@tafazziReadChannelDescription Originally dinner and supper were two different meals, one was the main meal of the day and the other was a light meal eaten before bed.

    • @tafazziReadChannelDescription
      @tafazziReadChannelDescription 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ChrissieBear alright I didn't know that, thanks, in Italy we eat dinner past (in some places, way past) 8 pm so there's no need for a snack before bed.

    • @jonervine
      @jonervine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I…. I already eat like that

  • @justmona9647
    @justmona9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Outside of my trigonometry course or scientific theory, I never thought I'd know exactly when I would need Kleiber's Law! Here out of the blue on Minute Earth, I came up against my arch-nemesis then quickly remembered the exact formula!👏💓

  • @MadChad1640
    @MadChad1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved the “this is David from middle earth” intro.

  • @Santisima_Trinidad
    @Santisima_Trinidad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    From what i remember, all the 7 mealtimes Tolkien listed for the hobbits are actual mealtimes, and historically all of those meals would have been eaten every day. However, much as was pointed out in the video for it being hobbit sized meals, they were far smaller than traditional meals we eat today, as our current mealtimes are based around our work taking up most of the daytime, with only enough breaktime for 1 meal in the day.

  • @macfurry3214
    @macfurry3214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Birds: let us introduce our all day meal menu.

  • @vothaison
    @vothaison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Me waking up 11:30 o'clock on quarantine day: "What the heck is second breakfast?!"

  • @cuebj
    @cuebj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Agricultural labour in Kent and Sussex, eg during hop picking, was: breakfast at home before leaving for work at about 5.30am; lunch about 10am in the field; dinner about 1pm usually in pub with beer; tea about 3pm in the field; leave work about 4.30pm to 5pm for supper at home as main meal of day about 6pm. Burned lots of calories!

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Prediction before watching the video: Hobbits are small, lower volume/surface area ration means they lose heat faster and they have to eat more to stay warm.

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The hobbits are also smaller than humans so that they don't have to dig out as much dirt to make a livable home. Dwarves, who also live underground, also have this going (even though they seem to prefer to dig out massively expansive homes anyway), but they also live in stone rather than dirt, so they're also stockier so as to be able to break rocks easier.

  • @nebulan
    @nebulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'll keep this in mind for my halfling and gnome characters

  • @Llorx
    @Llorx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "Why do hobbits need 7 meals?" Because potato said the writter.
    Because. Potato.

  • @johnny5isalive2020
    @johnny5isalive2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is like the coolest thing I've ever seen!

  • @eliotdaoust3765
    @eliotdaoust3765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your best video in years!!! Sooo very well explained and illustrated in a way that made me sens then in my own head!! Amazing work Minute Earth! Keep it up!

  • @chazz30000
    @chazz30000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It all falls apart if you actually read the books and notice that their meals are described as full-sized meals made up of highly caloric meats, cheeses and similar.

  • @comiccat4650
    @comiccat4650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally we're getting to the important questions

  • @diegoreckholder945
    @diegoreckholder945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Today, I learned I'm a hobbit, with my two breakfasts, and my two lunches, and my dinner, and all the food in between.

  • @92Pyromaniac
    @92Pyromaniac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Would have liked to know how you arrived at the 16kg figure, because honestly that feels like a very low estimate. My dog weighs double that, yet occupies a similar volume to what I imagine a 3 foot hobbit would. Plus I can curl a 30kg dumbell - I wouldn't expect to be able to support two hobbits on each arm.

    • @TJStellmach
      @TJStellmach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Human children average 3 feet tall at age 3 or so, and those same children average about 14kg.

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TJStellmach
      That's true...but hobbits still have the overall built of a adult humans, even if they're smaller. They're stocky folks, the females have (very) womanly figures and the males (being farmers and craftsmen) would be reasonably muscular and with growing age somewhat 'rotund'.
      So small or not, they wouldn't have the bodies of prepubercent children and weigh quite a bit more than a human of the same size.

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah, 25 kg at least sounds more reasonable for a small adult

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raraavis7782 , I checked out a 1996 study for height/weight of real humans with dwarfism and found the weight for an adult around the size of the average hobbit is 20-25 kg. However, there are likely other biological differences between humans and hobbits that could result in them actually weighing less.

    • @sebastianosterbrink9006
      @sebastianosterbrink9006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You also have to consider the size of their feet. That should add another couple pounds

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My problem with products like wren: They make you feel all you are doing is not good, but OK once you have payed for it. When you like to travel by plane, just give somebody a few bucks to plant some trees so that the carbon emission you caused gets canceled by the trees.
    You know... of instead just maybe teach people to step back and just consume less energy (I know that would kinda break their business model). Such services just calm your conscious - like _Light Yogurt_

    • @balderdash707
      @balderdash707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why is that a problem? The greenhouse effect doesn't care whether you emitted some carbon and recaptured it or just never emitted it in the first place.

    • @jltg34
      @jltg34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MY problem with Wren is that it's yet another attempt at perpetuating the "do your part" mindset that the public has been forcefed so that corporations and unethical industry can continue to operate using cheap but environmentally devastating practices.
      So individual households keep their ac/heating off, walk more, and flush their toilets less, and yet multi-billion dollar companies get to continue to ignore everything but their bottom line.
      Everything the every day people can do to help is a drop in the bucket compared to the effects that international companies are having, and they know this, because they're the ones that started these "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" type movements, all in order to deflect regulation from forcing them to change.
      I think it's admirable to be mindful of your own carbon footprint, but until these big polluters start giving a crap about the world, the impact to change things for the better is going to remain insufficient, and the public awareness that the common man is to blame for the current climate crisis is more damaging than people think.

    • @basilmemories
      @basilmemories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      counter-COUNTERpoint: large industries do far worse than individuals, even when you add up the contributions of people as a group. asking people to change their habits is nice- everything helps after all, but placing the main burden on the individual is like arranging the deck chairs on the titanic, when we really should be telling the captain and crew to stay the fuck away from things that can tear a hole in the hull.
      This is sadly less easy because that requires things like "vote people into office that will pass green regulations and suplex corporations into playing nice with our home" and "our current social system is built on a deeply exploitative foundation, and going green also means eventually overhauling those factors of our societies. Which means reckoning with more than "i should turn my lights off"."

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Counter point:
      Energy use per Capita is a strong indicator of a nations quality of life. (Plot Human development index and similar of 1 axis and energy per Capita on the other for all the worlds nations and a strong correlation is evident)
      So a big focus needs to be on supplying energy in good ways, (NEVER COAL) but literally every PRIMARY energy source has problems, but solar and winds' environmental downsides are not worse than fossil fuels.
      Additionally western nations like the USA and EU (nation group) are lowering output of GHGs, but we have a long way to go and a big part of that is forcing Companies to view environmental externalities as substracted from their bottom line. (Some very smart people have placed a dollar value on economic loses per kg of C02 emited accounting for basically everything)
      But some "Developing" nations like India and China do not care about the environment and simply build Coal plants burning cheap "Brown" coal, the worst of the coals. So its not just about forcing companies to go green, and its not just getting Americans as individuals to go green, its about forcing the governments of the world to go green or face economic sanctions.
      Note: not looking for a heated argument, just contributing facts from college classes on the topic to the discussion and playing devil's advocate because everyone should always be asked to think about strong held beliefs with some new light, and its ok to double down.

    • @jltg34
      @jltg34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonreed7522 I agree wholeheartedly, getting the governments in charge of these offending companies to acknowledge the issue and act, is most likely the only way to for them to change, as it's not like they don't know what they are doing but they continue due to pure selfish motivations.
      It feels bad that developing countries with enormous populations (India) have to have their progress stifled when the other major powers of the world benefitted from polluting decades ago, but having those countries slowly develop until they're capable of sustainable growth isn't worth the environmental damage, both in the direct sense and the example they are providing to the rest of the world's leaders. ("USA: Oh you're telling us to keep our carbon footprint down? Go have a word with India over there, I ain't changing shit.")

  • @seatbelttruck
    @seatbelttruck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's six times a day. I don't know why the movies added a meal, but the books specifically say six.
    Neat video, though :) Since Tolkien was a literary guy, not a biologist, I doubt he was thinking along these lines when he created Hobbits (though who knows, he was a smart dude...). It's really fun that it worked out to kinda make sense scientifically.

    • @appa609
      @appa609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      six is exactly what you expect from L^2/3 scaling. 1/2 sized hobbit eats 1/4 the food but each meal is 1/8 the mass therefore twice the meals.

    • @AtarahDerek
      @AtarahDerek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Show me anywhere in canon that a Hobbit would object to adding a meal.

    • @junkoenoshima2756
      @junkoenoshima2756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AtarahDerek some would like how humans may object to adding a 4th meal but some have it anyway for their own reasons

    • @seatbelttruck
      @seatbelttruck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AtarahDerek LOL, fair.

    • @saraross8396
      @saraross8396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I thought, and was going to say.

  • @xantherxavier5429
    @xantherxavier5429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It took me a solid minute and a half to realize that the symbol for a unit of food he was using was lembas bread

  • @NM-rp5py
    @NM-rp5py 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love your vids
    keep it up

  • @althaz
    @althaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel asking the important questions.

  • @StefanTabit
    @StefanTabit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How do you explain Pippin eating 4 whole pieces of Lembas? One of those should be at least seven meals on its own by the book's logic!

    • @HeavyMetalMouse
      @HeavyMetalMouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was definitely feeling bloated after that. The explanation probably involves that, while Lembas does nourish you, your body takes time to catch up with the fact that it's more nourished than it expects to be after only a relatively small amount of eating. So by the time Pippin is finishing his fourth piece, the first is finally kicking in to trigger the satiation response. It's similar to how humans can easily end up over-eating by eating too quickly and not realizing they should be full until they've already overeaten, just more pronounced.
      Add to that the fact that waybread is meant to 'fill you' the same way travel rations might - it gives you just about what you need, but an organism can comfortably eat more than its minimum needs by a fair margin when resources are available without detriment in order to have extra resources for later. So even if a human can get by on a bit of lembas every day, they'll be really jonesing for a real meal after a long enough of making do.

  • @ralmslb
    @ralmslb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was super interesting.
    Thank you

  • @nswanberg
    @nswanberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Second breakfast is my favorite meal.

  • @karnowo
    @karnowo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    'One small bite is enough to fill the stomach of a grown man'
    Pretty sure hobbits consume more calories per day than humans.

    • @ncs1500
      @ncs1500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "How much did you eat?"
      "four"

    • @nafrost2787
      @nafrost2787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't about the lore of hobbits, but according to the video they don't, they eat far less per day than humans. However they do eat a lot more per day per unit of mass than humans.

    • @Xentillus
      @Xentillus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "One small bite [of elven bread special enough to be a special parting gift to the fellowship] is enough to fill the stomach of a grown man".

    • @Jamie-tx7pn
      @Jamie-tx7pn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nafrost2787 MinuteEarth should make a video about how stupid your comment is
      "I don't know about this thing but this video this guy says is wrong says it's this and therefore the video must be true even though I don't know a thing about what they're talking about"

    • @samuelgreen308
      @samuelgreen308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's in the film. The book doesn't have that scene (and elsewhere it says that one day's rations for a man doing a full day's march is a full wafer of lembas, not just one bite).

  • @darthmortus5702
    @darthmortus5702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what you're saying is Aragorn committed a hate crime when he denied the hobbits a second breakfast.

  • @KoenigsKindDev
    @KoenigsKindDev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wouldn't this mean that children should also eat seven meals a day?

    • @globin3477
      @globin3477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Children eat bigger meals, I guess... In any case, the energy needs of children should be greater than a hobbit because children are growing much faster and larger than an adult hobbit of the same size.

    • @that_tabby
      @that_tabby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah this doesn't make sense at all!
      And a children half the size of the average adult for sure doesn't weight only 16kg

    • @codysurfer8232
      @codysurfer8232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ideally yes, but because the culture is 3 square meal a day. Teenagers and infants, especially need to eat more often. Sadly high schools don't usually allow snacking during class.

    • @foxwaffles
      @foxwaffles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When my growth spurt hit I definitely was eating at least 7 times a day o_o The teachers tried sending me to the principal's for snacking and my mom just blew them off.

    • @tafazziReadChannelDescription
      @tafazziReadChannelDescription 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      humans in general don't need 3 meals a day, out stomach can be trained to let us survive with one meal and two snacks a day, where "meal" is considered a banquet by today's standards. That's why we have the gallbladder, people that have it removed find barely any difference if they eat at the same rate as always, but if you went back to hunter gatherer's or even just romans rhythms, they'd struggle.
      So assuming humanoids' culture evolves to make meals just the size to never trigger the gallbladder, hobbits would prefer 7 meals a day while probably being fine with just 2 meals and one snack.

  • @AveryMilieu
    @AveryMilieu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is endearing. But I've loved Hobbits since 1959 (when I first read The Hobbit).

  • @JesusMartinez-rr2ry
    @JesusMartinez-rr2ry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you still didn't forget to draw extra hair on the feet of the Hobbits, even if they're stick figures.

  • @mahinahmed4002
    @mahinahmed4002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos

  • @xtira7672
    @xtira7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It can't be a coincidence that I just started reading the hobbit right when this video came out right?

    • @eben6237
      @eben6237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      spooky

  • @tedlis517
    @tedlis517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting how I became interested only after you replaced the thumbnail and title.

  • @childhasjoineddeserver7503
    @childhasjoineddeserver7503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Me, when I don't eat: I'm not hungry-
    Grandma: *E A T*

  • @chanbricks4461
    @chanbricks4461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "We've had one breakfast, yes, but what about second breakfast?"

  • @NaMe-ku4cl
    @NaMe-ku4cl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love Middle Earth and Tolkien's writings 🥰

  • @LeoStaley
    @LeoStaley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro got me good.

  • @Nyst2
    @Nyst2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pretty sure a Hobbit meal contains more then 500 calories.

    • @bentoth9555
      @bentoth9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the meals described before they leave Hobbiton (or Crickhollow) in Fellowship of the Ring were definitely more than 500 calories.

    • @wombataldebaran9686
      @wombataldebaran9686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bentoth9555 I mean, in terms of what is in them, sure. But wouldn't their plates and pots and overall sizes of food portions be smaller as well? And therefore have less calories?

  • @Cheesepuff8
    @Cheesepuff8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That’s actually extremely interesting, I wonder if Tolkien knew exactly this then

    • @cat-.-
      @cat-.- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably made it up but still impressive anyways

  • @universemaps
    @universemaps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this particular sponsor Wren

  • @richmahogany1710
    @richmahogany1710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    now this is science

  • @lunar.howl.
    @lunar.howl. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone's finally asking the real questions here

  • @joaoartur4165
    @joaoartur4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adoro o senhor dos anéis, já assisti todos os filmes

  • @JustToke
    @JustToke 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Breakfast,snack,brunch,snack,lunch,snack ,dinner is the food schedule

  • @dynamosaurusimperious2718
    @dynamosaurusimperious2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well this is nice minute earth video

  • @rphb5870
    @rphb5870 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    man hobbits are going to be pissed when they hear about brunch

  • @larbarayal1562
    @larbarayal1562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video.

  • @MonkeyJedi99
    @MonkeyJedi99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The gang over at Shadiversity tried a day of hobbit eating, but did not include the agrarian work load, and their portions were on the large side even so.
    They were in various amounts of pain and misery.

  • @fayazuddinshah
    @fayazuddinshah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A sacrifice to the algorithm.

  • @HisameArtwork
    @HisameArtwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this was fun bit of world building, love it!

  • @jellythekil
    @jellythekil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @KnowArt
    @KnowArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ha, great idea to pack some actual science into such a topic

  • @Kartoffelkamm
    @Kartoffelkamm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Minute Earth: (asks if I want second breakfast)
    Me who ate chips all day and only stopped because it's 6pm and time for dinner: "Yes."

  • @Palidor19
    @Palidor19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever I go on a cruise ship, I suddenly develop the Hobbitt seven meal plan

  • @Ggdivhjkjl
    @Ggdivhjkjl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes! What's for second breakfast please?

  • @rparl
    @rparl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By British countryside tradition, Elevenses, Afternoon Tea, and Supper would be smaller. So I would estimate four meals and three snacks. On Midwestern American farms, Breakfast is a very large meal, so I can understand splitting it up.
    Still, this isn't something I'd previously considered. Thanks.

  • @SergioBobillierC
    @SergioBobillierC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can someone explain to me how do you get from 16kg^(3/4) = 8(unit?) to 500c Is the formula missing a constant or something?

  • @genstian
    @genstian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, lets make Earth Mordor again? That just sounds too cool.

  • @Morlock.
    @Morlock. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Minute Earth should do a video about all tomorrow's

  • @vtron9832
    @vtron9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to be frank and honest. I did NOT see that middle-earth pun coming! 😆 😂 🤣

  • @Hakasedess
    @Hakasedess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tolkien DID claim the LOTR mythos were actually true stories he was merely translating into English...
    monkaS

  • @smallchannel5782
    @smallchannel5782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhhh, so thats why i keep wanting more food even though i already ate, im small like a hobbit

  • @YSPACElabs
    @YSPACElabs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huh so maybe that’s why Kerbals need so many snacks

  • @HeavyMetalMouse
    @HeavyMetalMouse 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aye, the real point of scaling that gets overlooked when talking about halfling mealtime is the size of the meals - if we assume meal size scales with mass or volume directly (which it should, given the basic mechanics of actually eating), that matters a lot, and this video *does* take that into account, if only implicitly by referencing 'hobbit-sized meals' in the final breakdown, without necessarily clarifying that term.
    While an 80 kg man might eat 0.5 kg of food in a large meal, a 16 kg halfling (1/5 the mass) would eat 0.1 kg of food in the same large meal.
    Since the halfling needs (1/5)^(3/4) ~= 0.3 times the food as the man, he needs to eat (0.3 / (1/5) ) ~= 1.5 times as many meals
    Since we assume the human eats 3 meals and a snack (call it 3.5 meals), that would give us about 5.25 meals for a halfling.
    5.25 equivalent meals easily comes out to 4 full meals, 2 snacks, and a light afternoon tea. The specific breakdown is probably mostly cultural, as Shire hobbits seem to enjoy the opportunity to slow down and enjoy things, balanced against the need to get things done in an agrarian setting like the Shire.

  • @majorfallacy5926
    @majorfallacy5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess this explains why I'm constantly eating yet super skinny

  • @ninjafalls1739
    @ninjafalls1739 ปีที่แล้ว

    You all do realize this means…..
    In “the hobbit” the dwarves unintentionally starved poor bilbo

  • @keenheat3335
    @keenheat3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does this mean microscopic animal would pretty much need to eat constantly or they die ? assuming the mass law follow in that scale

  • @foxbatmc8457
    @foxbatmc8457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Eat seven times a day to defeat your enemis.
    -sun Tzu art of war

    • @loganvurklemeyer1957
      @loganvurklemeyer1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      eat your enemies seven times a day to defeat your enemies

  • @TheScienceBiome
    @TheScienceBiome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't hobbits eat human sized meals though?

    • @caracatoacacepe
      @caracatoacacepe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do, the dwarves eat even more than them too, despite being heavier and taller

  • @jcurysimoes
    @jcurysimoes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they change the title of the video?!

  • @XEinstein
    @XEinstein 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:30. Uhm yes, I'm always in the mood for a second breakfast.

  • @jisha4374
    @jisha4374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi minute earth 🌎

  • @shlomoshlomo963
    @shlomoshlomo963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Thought it was a film theory video for a second

  • @bread7101
    @bread7101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:48
    all of that the lembas bread...

  • @stratisgeorgilus6341
    @stratisgeorgilus6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did you change the title and the thubnail?

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of the 7 meals, only 3 are full meals, 3 are light meals, and 1 is a snack.

  • @rantingrodent416
    @rantingrodent416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can choose to eat more, smaller meals during the day regardless of how many calories you need relative to your body weight. This is like asking why small pizzas have fewer slices.

  • @XotoriD4rak
    @XotoriD4rak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesant:.

  • @frodobaggins9932
    @frodobaggins9932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And now you know.

  • @CMZneu
    @CMZneu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    On the topic of heat loss, differently for ectothermic animals, sure they also lose heat proportionally but their cells don't produce as much heat so they have way less energy requirements, and let's suppose their environment is somewhere tropical where they don't necessarily need to expend energy to bask or whatever and there isn't much temp variation, do we see disparity on energy consumption between different sizes?

  • @erasesans
    @erasesans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bc why not?

  • @joaoartur4165
    @joaoartur4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Estou doido para quando isso ser dublado para português

  • @Danikoshii
    @Danikoshii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yall act like hobbits and I are completely different diet-wise

  • @Choujifangirl
    @Choujifangirl ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see where your bread is buttered from the intro alone dear Sir🤣

  • @_comment
    @_comment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pygmy shrew is a fascinating creature.

  • @StinzandL
    @StinzandL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought Hobbits ate so many meals a day 'cause they liked to eat. Who doesn't. :-) very interesting video

  • @tyroberts2261
    @tyroberts2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a whole lot of walking in those 6 movies.

  • @sergeantblue6115
    @sergeantblue6115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh thats just me in quarantine