When I tested, I felt the spear in Deadeye would be wild... Hizen just elevate that in epic proportions. Engi Spear felt to be good too. And the rest, well that's it. Thanks for REAL test those thing for us mate, you still my mentor as always. I can see ranger ( my favorite spec ) doing some good in PvP, I think is hard to surpass dual maces in solo Open World.
I didn't test them out as much as some did, but I only found a few enjoyable. None would make me want to give up what I'm currently using, though. Thanks again, Lord Hizen!!
I've basically benched my rev now because I am just tired of the nerfing, tired of the useless new weapons, and just so damn tired of them saying "we are happy with it" while the majority of the player base is screaming at them saying it's fucking trash with math, numbers, and video showing how garbage it is.
Man, I love how deadeye can take the new weapons, and force Anet to nerf that shit or else. Except maybe scepter. Unless there is a secret scepter deadeye build I am unaware of that's melting foos.
Yooo I feel that rev portion... I still don't understand why they felt the needed to make scepter a sword... ANOTHER sword. Why didn't they make it a ranged support weapon? Yknow the thing that DOESN'T overlap with a preexisting melee support weapon?... Both rev scepter and spear look kool, but it doesn't matter if they don't see use... Also I don't get why it's 600 range. Revs already lack in the range department.
Is the main reason i hated the spear being power and not condi. Could have even given us an hybrid weapon like thief or engi, but that's too much to ask.
Yeah most of these feel like they were built to only feel good when quickness is applied and even then. However, engineer spear can bring back scrapper as quick condi which is kinda fun
this video clearly hit the mark and i share the same feeling with you great video while every other streamer outthere is lying in order for people to buy the expansion you tell the truth !! although you made warrior spears looks really fun to play , the ranger one laugh and cried at the same time great memes and rev
Good to know that i just bought a nice spear skin for my ranger and its just that, a nice skin because i wont use the spear until they fix it to be usable
They either need to tone down m7 on deadeye or tone up the other specs. How many years has this continued to be an issue for the balance team til they learn?
Yup dreams of a power vind/dragoon died upon seeing wtf anet did to revenant with a slow useless condi wep which is inferior to mace/axe in every way. Now focusing mesmer for expansion least their power wep was good and fun. First scepter now this. "Anet reading player feedback" ignored as usual watch.
@@DeathKnightZ777 I still have hope they'll change the values and speeds. maybe even stick some vuln on it. But yeah if they don't, I'll bench rev and switch to either Necro or Mesmer
@@kybaliel Yeah but part of me thinks arena net will once again ignore player feedback "cough" scepter. we had like 30+ pages on forums get mainly ignored on feedback prior.
Animations looking great is already the peak meme and I'm just 10s in. >make a two handed weapon, thrust-dominant with some striking capability >melee animation is just spinning it in one hand overhead and slightly behind, no two hands, thrusting or striking involved I literally came back to the game because finally spears and this is what I get. Shame on you anet. And shame on me for falling for it kekw
Kinda weirded out that warriors ranged weapon gives you more incentive to use it as a melee weapon. We already use a pistol as a melee weapon, what more do they want from us?
For warrior I think if there were 2 charges on 3rd skill it would make it more usable with berserker, since you have to go melle all the time. Would look cooler too.
idc if Necro spear is good. I'm sad that its not a 1200 range weapon that we need, nor does it do anything Necro-y like condis or minions. just another life steal like the swords just were. honestly after playing Necro since launch, between this and swords, I'm dropping Necro and going to Ele. They've just done nothing with Necro that makes it FEEL like a Necro and what i care most about is immersion.
I really wanted the swap mechanic on rev spear to work, it would have fit nicely into all the legendswap/wepswap bomb builds i like to roam around on in WvW and open world pve content. But it's as you said, slow and clunky and no damage even when you get it off.
Spear is a total flop for me. Engineer is the only one I'm actually looking forward to playing. Warrior and ranger are my favorite classes and I have zero interest in either of their spears regardless of if they buff the numbers.
For Thief , again, condi Deadeye does good benchmark, witch will bve nerfed, and Spear will be useless on Daredevil and Specter, not to mention any attempt at a power build...
I love Maleficent 7, but it just makes it impossible for Thief to ever feel right. You can't nerf kits to work around infinite initiative when it's only available in 1 archetype. the talent itself needs some kind of limitation, and then buff the rest of thief kit (including other deadeye stuff) accordingly.
@@chidorah100 You wouldn't need to balance Thief according to Deadeye, if you just buff Daredevil and Specter in Pve so that the power lvl match. And imo the Spear could have been a pure power weapon, not some hybrid like axe and scepter (that ended up just being condi). Thief hasn't had a good power weapon that has some Aoe since HoT with staff. The spear has a nice design and they sad in the live chat that they will try to balance it for power 2, and i hope it happens, but am not 2 optimistic. Personally, would love to play a pure power version with spear on Specter or Daredevil. But atm imo Daredevil needs a buff, and Specter needs a rework and some love from Anet.
@Lord Hizen For the mirage spear the stacking 20 seconds 15% damage is nice at least to amp up laser fest greatsword. Hoping it does get buffed a little though was nice to have a melee wep for once on the class. Greatsword + shark spear = sharks with laser beams :P Rip Rev though anet hates the class add insult to injury after the failed scepter now spear. Going 100% mesmer into next expansion rifle chrono is amazing then spear looks viable vs others.
@@Svobone Some have completely no purpose (another power weapon for necromancer lmao), others suck mechanically, quite a few have low numbers. Note that for some of them it's bunch of these reasons at once.
When it comes to PvP with the spears: Warrior: rifle zerker except harder to land the hits, need better tracking and then it become juicy damage Guardian: the only reason why its good on willbender is because there is a bug with the dash skill that make you multi-hit, this bug happened many times in the past Revenant: more offensive version of condi herald duelist, spicy 60 stack torment Thief: hard to judge how good it is, the skill 3 leap has 0 cooldown and scale with movement speed thanks to bug, so you can leap across whole map instantly Ranger: utter unuseable garbage, only good on untamed thanks to having good stealth synergy Engineer: 2x pulsing damage AoE on class that already have pulsing damage AoE on all specs, so anyone who aproach close to you instadie like mosquito in eletric bug trap Mesmer: MELLE ASSASIN MIRAGE yea boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Elementalist: fancy animations, thats everything, skills itself have 0 impact Necro: power reaper go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, its like greatsword but better
I hope that spear for guard will perform better than swords, mainly because I crave something else than sword&greatsword combo, and scepter ain't working either for me ;-;
Ah, wait, these are kinda same spears as underwater ones? I guess going for some of legendary spears will be worthwhile, since it won't be just underwater.
So basically, everyone gets a crazy animations, awesome looking weapon, except it deals damage comparable with wet paper? Yea, that’s definitely something new comparing to what happened last time xD
"Animation is cool but the damage is very low" I mean, yeah, it's ele. Just look at ele staff 5. As for the rest of the classes, for me personally, I don't vibe with them. Maybe guardian if it comes out to be worth using, but that's a big maybe. I haven't put much energy into a spellbreaker build, but I could use that and staff for a support build or something. Regardless, I most likely won't get around to the new expansion right away. Been wanting to go back through the game from start to finish anyhow.
Warrior: "Ooh, they gave me an even pointier stick this time!"
as a revenant enjoyer the last part makes me sad
Remember the stare renegade was in on pof release? They dont give a fuck about rev. It was pretty much unfinished elite spec at that time..
Me too, even though I mainly play Vindi, Rev can can be fun
Me too, bro
@@Jaaanh go to mechanist😅
It needs to be said...
2:14 let me tell you something let me tell you something LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING
😂😂😂
💀😂🤣😂🤣
I had to do a double take with the monster hunter bit - yeah you literally have one face for all possible characters that you can make the face on.
Your edits everytime put a smile on my face. Great job, Cheer!! Praying for thief, please be safe.
10:17 Muk in heaven!
I'M WEAVING!
When I tested, I felt the spear in Deadeye would be wild... Hizen just elevate that in epic proportions. Engi Spear felt to be good too. And the rest, well that's it. Thanks for REAL test those thing for us mate, you still my mentor as always. I can see ranger ( my favorite spec ) doing some good in PvP, I think is hard to surpass dual maces in solo Open World.
My dream for Rev scepter is in shambles.
Spear Berserker looks straightforward and fun.
Revenant spear is the prime example of Janet forgetting that quickness should make our weapon attacks feel very quick instead of not too slow
"This is fine, (willbender) is our favorite child" had me cackling haha
Another great vid by our guild leader, see you in trenches my liege!!!!! Love the Mukluk scream lmao!!!!! keep the vids coming please!!!
This is why I pay my internet
Also, this (8:20) looked great, I don't know if it was hard to make, but kudos to you Lord.
I will never get tired of that Mukluk meme 😂😂
I didn't test them out as much as some did, but I only found a few enjoyable. None would make me want to give up what I'm currently using, though. Thanks again, Lord Hizen!!
me enjoying thief spear...That's my boy!!! "anet enters chat" NOOO my boy!!!! FATHER HELPPPP....
I've basically benched my rev now because I am just tired of the nerfing, tired of the useless new weapons, and just so damn tired of them saying "we are happy with it" while the majority of the player base is screaming at them saying it's fucking trash with math, numbers, and video showing how garbage it is.
We are happy with it.
I knew there is gonna be mukluk in the Video! 😂❤
How can they spend so much time crafting such cool Ele spear animations to then make it downright crap XD
"reading the feedback"
Whoever is reading those feedbacks is legally blind
Glad to see that revenant is still the same redheaded step child that it was 11 years ago
Yooooo the video I’ve waited for. Can’t wait for the guides coming with the expansion. Keep up the work solo overlord ❤
That was fun and entertaining to watch! Thanks for the heads up on what spear can and cannot do for classes!
Man, I love how deadeye can take the new weapons, and force Anet to nerf that shit or else.
Except maybe scepter. Unless there is a secret scepter deadeye build I am unaware of that's melting foos.
Yooo I feel that rev portion... I still don't understand why they felt the needed to make scepter a sword... ANOTHER sword. Why didn't they make it a ranged support weapon? Yknow the thing that DOESN'T overlap with a preexisting melee support weapon?...
Both rev scepter and spear look kool, but it doesn't matter if they don't see use... Also I don't get why it's 600 range. Revs already lack in the range department.
Anet should definitely watch your videos as feedback!
Please Not! A few years in the past they did it and after that they gives us the legendary January patch...or the ultimate necro nerf
Glad to see power mirage still doesn't give a flip about anything but the greatsword xX
But, but, but... that's a problem... XD
@@gilsonsilva5811 yeah, i loved spear aesthetically and gameplay wise, but its just a worse greatsword at the moment :(
@@user-xo2og8kv1o copy/paste this comment into a necro discussion and it still works
Is the main reason i hated the spear being power and not condi.
Could have even given us an hybrid weapon like thief or engi, but that's too much to ask.
I played it A TON actually too ^^'. But the swap is important. GS is just good standalone and strong for tagging if(and only if) playing Mirage.
"What they have done to my boy?" meme two times for rev: Scepter and spear
I'm so tired of seeing my main being the memeeeee let us ele be cool for once Anettttt xD
Funny video, good job, keep it up, proud of you.
I mean... with the spears you're cool. Just not strong...
Yeah most of these feel like they were built to only feel good when quickness is applied and even then. However, engineer spear can bring back scrapper as quick condi which is kinda fun
Very entertaining video. Your editing is great.
Incredible video as always.
Thank you Hizen. Quality content per usual
So many incredible crossovers; more ambitious than the entire MCU
this video clearly hit the mark and i share the same feeling with you great video while every other streamer outthere is lying in order for people to buy the expansion you tell the truth !! although you made warrior spears looks really fun to play , the ranger one laugh and cried at the same time great memes and rev
I was so disappointed with Ele spear, it had all the potential to be great and turned out to be a big shiny gold turd.
You know it's beta right?
@@mateusznawrot8941 you're saying that as if it matters... we saw it with pistol we saw it with hammer...
It's great to see power dps having some space in a video
WOW!!! I take a print screen of this: I saw Lord Hizen "die" in Guildwars2 ??????? :) :) it's going to be worth a lot on Ebay! :)
anet should definitely nerf ele
Yeah the animations are too short! And it does too much damage imo! unacceptable!
ANet balancing Ele spear: "we made the visual effects 10 times more obnoxious so ele players will die from unseen mechanics"
Ele always catches strays, don't gotta worry about that
Thief spear is great, but for the love of the god, Janet changed animation of 1st spear skill, flopping spear in one hand like Sasuge is goofy
Thank you so much! this was so entertaining!
Yessss! I was waiting for this
Awesome edit my Lord. My bow to you.
The ranger meme was perfect XD
From 1:57 I literally died! xD Every time I see these videos I have to Praise Joko, hoping to be worthy of Awakening to laugh at the next one! XD
Today is the day and i need that Thief build it looks so good^^
Good to know that i just bought a nice spear skin for my ranger and its just that, a nice skin because i wont use the spear until they fix it to be usable
They either need to tone down m7 on deadeye or tone up the other specs. How many years has this continued to be an issue for the balance team til they learn?
they never learn
You had me at “oh hi Mark” 😂
Hilarious...i did not expect warrior spear too perform that strongly tbh
As a rev main, I demand faster animations and just make the spear strike damage focused so we can have our Dragoon fantasy in GW2
Yup dreams of a power vind/dragoon died upon seeing wtf anet did to revenant with a slow useless condi wep which is inferior to mace/axe in every way. Now focusing mesmer for expansion least their power wep was good and fun. First scepter now this. "Anet reading player feedback" ignored as usual watch.
@@DeathKnightZ777 I still have hope they'll change the values and speeds. maybe even stick some vuln on it.
But yeah if they don't, I'll bench rev and switch to either Necro or Mesmer
@@kybaliel Yeah but part of me thinks arena net will once again ignore player feedback "cough" scepter. we had like 30+ pages on forums get mainly ignored on feedback prior.
Great video! Lord Hizen, You are amazing as always!😎
As an engi main was loving the beta
The Guild Wars 2 content I crave for.
Animations looking great is already the peak meme and I'm just 10s in.
>make a two handed weapon, thrust-dominant with some striking capability
>melee animation is just spinning it in one hand overhead and slightly behind, no two hands, thrusting or striking involved
I literally came back to the game because finally spears and this is what I get. Shame on you anet. And shame on me for falling for it kekw
What a great video for starting the day :)
Finally... someone else who actually uses Healing Turret...
Arena should really pay you for your feedback xD
Why would they? Anet ignores the feedback anyway.
honestly. i don't want to be paid, i just want spears to be fixed and fun. especially revenant
Loved it! I'm looking forward for engi and thief spear more than anything coz I enjoyed playing that the most during beta. Hehehe.
14:20 - Revenant time
Bro wake up Hizen just dropped new meme videos!
As an engineer and thief main, I’m happy but scared for the nerfs lol
the surprise mukgasm killed me
Your edit is funny as hell
Kinda weirded out that warriors ranged weapon gives you more incentive to use it as a melee weapon.
We already use a pistol as a melee weapon, what more do they want from us?
This is true quality content ❤
as a fellow rev main i feel that pain and even I would like to fix those weapons on my own with fellow revs this weapon is just... no
For warrior I think if there were 2 charges on 3rd skill it would make it more usable with berserker, since you have to go melle all the time. Would look cooler too.
idc if Necro spear is good. I'm sad that its not a 1200 range weapon that we need, nor does it do anything Necro-y like condis or minions. just another life steal like the swords just were. honestly after playing Necro since launch, between this and swords, I'm dropping Necro and going to Ele. They've just done nothing with Necro that makes it FEEL like a Necro and what i care most about is immersion.
as espectet zerker power warr goes wild on spear :3 love it! Finaly! xD
This man is amaziing!
the revenant spear bit its funny af and depressing af xd
Mesmer spear was probably the most FUN ive had in a long time - But yeah, its not the meta. If it got a bit of a increase that would be amazing.
my favorite part is the warrior bit
I hope they don't completely obliterate Deadeye. Really enjoying my rifle build.
Most of the spears are >very< underwhelming on dps.
I really wanted the swap mechanic on rev spear to work, it would have fit nicely into all the legendswap/wepswap bomb builds i like to roam around on in WvW and open world pve content. But it's as you said, slow and clunky and no damage even when you get it off.
Lmfao bro cooked hard ahaha this is best 🤣
Bru! Nice vid and the edit 👨🍳😘💯
I hope there's an application for spear on scrapper and holo too that's just as good as mechanist.
So true for the spear revenant, I'm disappointed. After the scepter, the spear...
Thank you for your video.
Spear is a total flop for me. Engineer is the only one I'm actually looking forward to playing. Warrior and ranger are my favorite classes and I have zero interest in either of their spears regardless of if they buff the numbers.
spear for necro, engi, and warrior seem pretty good but the thief spear 200% getting nerfed. warrior spear seems very fun with a lot of damage it has
For Thief , again, condi Deadeye does good benchmark, witch will bve nerfed, and Spear will be useless on Daredevil and Specter, not to mention any attempt at a power build...
I love Maleficent 7, but it just makes it impossible for Thief to ever feel right. You can't nerf kits to work around infinite initiative when it's only available in 1 archetype. the talent itself needs some kind of limitation, and then buff the rest of thief kit (including other deadeye stuff) accordingly.
@@chidorah100 Easy. Slap a 20s cooldown on it.
@@chidorah100 You wouldn't need to balance Thief according to Deadeye, if you just buff Daredevil and Specter in Pve so that the power lvl match. And imo the Spear could have been a pure power weapon, not some hybrid like axe and scepter (that ended up just being condi). Thief hasn't had a good power weapon that has some Aoe since HoT with staff. The spear has a nice design and they sad in the live chat that they will try to balance it for power 2, and i hope it happens, but am not 2 optimistic.
Personally, would love to play a pure power version with spear on Specter or Daredevil. But atm imo Daredevil needs a buff, and Specter needs a rework and some love from Anet.
Me, "patiently" waiting for updated OW builds now that JW is out 🧐
I’ve met a Firebrand about 2 weeks ago playing the spear in Factal 99CM as a dps and his peak dps was 62k. How? Also, buff Elementalist.
As a main ranger for years, the mace alredy made me sad, the spear just dealt the final blow....
@Lord Hizen For the mirage spear the stacking 20 seconds 15% damage is nice at least to amp up laser fest greatsword. Hoping it does get buffed a little though was nice to have a melee wep for once on the class. Greatsword + shark spear = sharks with laser beams :P Rip Rev though anet hates the class add insult to injury after the failed scepter now spear. Going 100% mesmer into next expansion rifle chrono is amazing then spear looks viable vs others.
They've failed spectacularly with these spears lmao
well only 7 out of 9 are bad!
Pvp and wvw streamers turned devs balancing for pve? What can go wrong?
Failed in what way? Design, visuals, numbers, enjoyment, purpose? Missed the beta so just curious.
@@Svobone Some have completely no purpose (another power weapon for necromancer lmao), others suck mechanically, quite a few have low numbers. Note that for some of them it's bunch of these reasons at once.
@@Svobone they underperform so are not worth using, and you already know Anet wont fix it. It was a great idea but it wasnt meant to be i guess
When it comes to PvP with the spears:
Warrior: rifle zerker except harder to land the hits, need better tracking and then it become juicy damage
Guardian: the only reason why its good on willbender is because there is a bug with the dash skill that make you multi-hit, this bug happened many times in the past
Revenant: more offensive version of condi herald duelist, spicy 60 stack torment
Thief: hard to judge how good it is, the skill 3 leap has 0 cooldown and scale with movement speed thanks to bug, so you can leap across whole map instantly
Ranger: utter unuseable garbage, only good on untamed thanks to having good stealth synergy
Engineer: 2x pulsing damage AoE on class that already have pulsing damage AoE on all specs, so anyone who aproach close to you instadie like mosquito in eletric bug trap
Mesmer: MELLE ASSASIN MIRAGE yea boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Elementalist: fancy animations, thats everything, skills itself have 0 impact
Necro: power reaper go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, its like greatsword but better
Spear was so bad on rev that I deleted my character and made a new class.
Sad how they did revenant soo dirty....
I hope that spear for guard will perform better than swords, mainly because I crave something else than sword&greatsword combo, and scepter ain't working either for me ;-;
You don't like hearing "VWOOOM VWOOOM VWOOOM VWOOOM" ?
I bet Ranger Spear will do more damage than goddamn Longbow.... Oh wait. Already everything else does... except Ranger GS :'D
berserker spear looks good!
Ah, wait, these are kinda same spears as underwater ones? I guess going for some of legendary spears will be worthwhile, since it won't be just underwater.
yeah, deadeye spear haha
So basically, everyone gets a crazy animations, awesome looking weapon, except it deals damage comparable with wet paper?
Yea, that’s definitely something new comparing to what happened last time xD
As a rev main I concur *cries in fetal position*. Fun video though, I'll at least have that if nothing else :')
Any thoughts about ele spear?
"Animation is cool but the damage is very low" I mean, yeah, it's ele. Just look at ele staff 5. As for the rest of the classes, for me personally, I don't vibe with them. Maybe guardian if it comes out to be worth using, but that's a big maybe. I haven't put much energy into a spellbreaker build, but I could use that and staff for a support build or something. Regardless, I most likely won't get around to the new expansion right away. Been wanting to go back through the game from start to finish anyhow.