I thought: surely you don’t need the silicone and can just use the plastic washers that come with it - I tried that at first and I had Niagara Falls leaking everywhere. So I followed your advice of removing the washers and using silicone, waited 24 hours, and now it’s like the Sahara. Excellent advice and video - thanks so much!
Hey David, that’s a great question👍 the overflow holes are actually positioned between the top and bottom seals, positioned in a space that picks up the ‘overflow water’ and allows it into the drain. Sorry If that doesn’t make any sense - try searching up ‘basin waste overflow cross section’ etc Cheers, Kent
Oh sorry grahmhw, I have been advised by a veteran plumber to always discard the supplied rubber seals in favour of plumbers putty (not common in Australia) or Silicone (the preferred). Applying it to both top and bottom 👍, Thanks for the Q. Kent
Hi, when i was fitting the same way as u did ,its bit lose . The copper nut from the bottom reaches to end of thread, what packing, should I use , thnxs
Hey camping, great question, I guess different designs of basins are slightly different thicknesses around the plug.. you could always substitute the silicone underneath (at the copper nut) for the 2x rubber seals that it comes with.. a good silicone seal on top and a firm fit is ideal. best of luck, Kent
Thanks Darren, I have found the quality mould and fungus resistant silicones are good - normally I use Parfix bathroom sanitary grade (good price for quality). Thanks for the feedback 🤙
If you forget your spanner, can you still tighten the nut with just your hands without any water leaking? Or is a spanner a must used tool to tighten the nut? (There's silicone around the pop up waste)
Hey Tan, I guess you could, I’m not brave enough to try that because I hate water leaks! So without the nut cinched up tight you are really just relying on the silicone to hold it, any movement is going to test that watertight seal🤔 best of luck, Kent
Hey Bill, thanks for the comment and that's a fair statement. In silicone's defence however - we won't need to change fittings in the future if it's due to leaking around a failed gasket as the silicone never fails when done right. If a time comes to change fittings then silicone is not a tricky thing to remove, have a look in this video at the 5 minute mark and see how it takes no time at all to remove. th-cam.com/video/z-2jL5QaZXY/w-d-xo.html Best of luck mate. Kent
I find that when I screw the plastic adapter on tight, thr internal rubber washer is simply forced down and out by the metal part of the waste outlet, which is frustrating. Can you use silicone here too instead of that washer?
Hey lewt, that’s a pest isn’t it.. by chance are you reusing an adapter or socket? I’ve found that they (the rubbers) never like being recycled and they do just what you have described. Also only tighten it enough to make a seal but not warp the new rubber o’ring if possible. I wouldn’t use silicone on pvc connections anytime! Best of luck mate, Kent
You made this look so easy, yet I think I stuffed my installation up. I installed one yesterday but left the two rubber seals on top of the nut and silicone around basin hole. I noticed my overflow outlet was a little skewed (maybe moved when I hopelessly attempted to tighten the nut with a strap wrench) but still has the hole largely uncovered. Today some 24 hours after installation, I tested it and I have water leaking down. So have I buggered this up completely and now have to go back to square one of calling a plumber? Or can I attempt to reinstall again if I remove all the wet area clear silicone I used and remove the rubber rings and just use the nut? Also will removal damage the pop up waste?
Hey Lisa, you can definitely re-do this yourself! And what you said is the perfect solution …clean off the silicone, remove the washers, and reseal it in place being mindful of the waste outlet holes lining up. Please let us know how you get on. Best of luck 👍Kent
Hey Helen, have a look down the plug hole before the new waste is connected, you’ll be able to see the overflow inlet, make a mental note of its location, when you position the new waste, find the overflow inlet holes and line then up as you seal/tighten in place👍 then fit the plug last. Best of luck and let us know how you get on. Kent
Hey Haris, good question! the pop-up plug I bought has a 32mm outlet, had to make it fit the 40mm plumbing.. if I had looked around a bit before buying I may have found a plug with a 40mm waste🤔. Next time. Kent
Thanks for this video - I have virtually the same drain waste mechanism installed by a plumber that leaks. in a new vanity installed. I've already had him back and he took the lazy option of piling on silicon around the outside of the flange extending up to the basin underneath (white silicone as well and looked like a dog's breakfast). Guess what, a few months later the leaking is back. I've had to pick off all the silicone which took a lot of time and stuck in the grooves and take the pipes apart - no washer in the first pipe which is what I thought was causing the leak. A trip to Bunnings for washers - connected everything again and guess what - it is still leaking. After carefully watching this morning with a torch and mirror, I could see that it is leaking from the flange. I had no idea this was screwed on as a separate component until watching your video so now hopefully once I can disconnect, I'll get this problem sorted out. I can't go to Bunnings for the silicone either during COVID lockdown. Anyone reading this - the drain stinks when pulled apart so have something like tin foil and rubber bands to cover the pipe leading to the sewerage. Maybe I'll take my own video to show other women that this is something they could tackle? Thanks again for the video (c:
Hey Tomasz, great Q. With silicone as a sealer you can run water over it straight away. Just be mindful not to move the plumbing at all while it all sets up.. cheers, Kent
I tried to get plumbers putty but everywhere I went didn't have any and everyone told me "just use silicone". Seems using silicone is the more common method in Australia.
Very bad advice,you should never use silicone to seal up a plug waste, The next plumber who needs to replace that plug waste will do a lot of damage just getting the part off, you should use the seals along with Plummers Mait-Please no one ever use silicone to seal up such things unless your willing to take the chance of having to replace the sink as well.
Thank you heaps for this!
Glad it helped mate
I thought: surely you don’t need the silicone and can just use the plastic washers that come with it - I tried that at first and I had Niagara Falls leaking everywhere. So I followed your advice of removing the washers and using silicone, waited 24 hours, and now it’s like the Sahara. Excellent advice and video - thanks so much!
Very nicely done ✔️
Beautiful finally an aussie youtube handyman channel
Thanks Aussie.. I appreciate it! 🤙Kent
Just followed this step by step, will test it out soon for leaks. Thanks for the video!
well done JR, best of luck mate! Kent
Super easy to understand and super helpful, thank you : )
Cheers AFC, I'm glad it helped mate, Kent
Made it look easy,thanks.
No worries belle, thanks for the nice comment 🤙Kent
Best trick in that is getting rid of the two rubber washers. Saved my Sunday arvo nap. Thanks
Haha, you are welcome Damo …that’s a great tip I got from my father in law (plumber). Cheers mate, Kent
thanks very much for the information ....love you ❤❤❤❤❤
Cheers Eddy, love you too🤙 Kent
May be a silly question, but when water goes down the waste what stops it getting out where the overflow slot is and ending up on the outer face ?
Hey David, that’s a great question👍 the overflow holes are actually positioned between the top and bottom seals, positioned in a space that picks up the ‘overflow water’ and allows it into the drain. Sorry If that doesn’t make any sense - try searching up ‘basin waste overflow cross section’ etc
Cheers, Kent
Thanks for tutorial. Its perfect
Glad you like it! Thanks, Kent
This was so helpful! Thank you! 😊
You are most welcome Kara🙂thanks, Kent
Do you recommend using the rubber seal underneath plus silicone or just silicone
Oh sorry grahmhw, I have been advised by a veteran plumber to always discard the supplied rubber seals in favour of plumbers putty (not common in Australia) or Silicone (the preferred). Applying it to both top and bottom 👍, Thanks for the Q. Kent
Fine but I would use teflon tape on the thread where the nut is located to prevent water leaking thru the thread/nut area?
Great tip cranky 👌 cheers, Kent
Hi, when i was fitting the same way as u did ,its bit lose . The copper nut from the bottom reaches to end of thread, what packing, should I use , thnxs
Hey camping, great question, I guess different designs of basins are slightly different thicknesses around the plug.. you could always substitute the silicone underneath (at the copper nut) for the 2x rubber seals that it comes with.. a good silicone seal on top and a firm fit is ideal. best of luck, Kent
@@InspireDIY thanks
What’s the best silicon to use? General selleys white bathroom silicon? Ps: your video on installing flyscreens was a life changer 👍
Thanks Darren, I have found the quality mould and fungus resistant silicones are good - normally I use Parfix bathroom sanitary grade (good price for quality). Thanks for the feedback 🤙
If you forget your spanner, can you still tighten the nut with just your hands without any water leaking? Or is a spanner a must used tool to tighten the nut? (There's silicone around the pop up waste)
Hey Tan, I guess you could, I’m not brave enough to try that because I hate water leaks! So without the nut cinched up tight you are really just relying on the silicone to hold it, any movement is going to test that watertight seal🤔 best of luck, Kent
Thank you
I had no idea prior
You’re welcome Leila👍Kent
The problem with using the silicone instead of the fittings is if you need to change the basin waste sometime in the future.
Hey Bill, thanks for the comment and that's a fair statement. In silicone's defence however - we won't need to change fittings in the future if it's due to leaking around a failed gasket as the silicone never fails when done right.
If a time comes to change fittings then silicone is not a tricky thing to remove, have a look in this video at the 5 minute mark and see how it takes no time at all to remove. th-cam.com/video/z-2jL5QaZXY/w-d-xo.html
Best of luck mate. Kent
I find that when I screw the plastic adapter on tight, thr internal rubber washer is simply forced down and out by the metal part of the waste outlet, which is frustrating. Can you use silicone here too instead of that washer?
Hey lewt, that’s a pest isn’t it.. by chance are you reusing an adapter or socket? I’ve found that they (the rubbers) never like being recycled and they do just what you have described. Also only tighten it enough to make a seal but not warp the new rubber o’ring if possible. I wouldn’t use silicone on pvc connections anytime! Best of luck mate, Kent
@@olivechopper awesome, thanks mate. It's a brand new one from Bunnings!
@@lewt9051 on ya👌
Do you have any ideas on how to release a pop-up plug if it's stuck in and won't pop back up?
Unscrew the waste pipe & push up from below.
Thanks for this video Kent!
You are very welcome Howie 🤙
You made this look so easy, yet I think I stuffed my installation up. I installed one yesterday but left the two rubber seals on top of the nut and silicone around basin hole. I noticed my overflow outlet was a little skewed (maybe moved when I hopelessly attempted to tighten the nut with a strap wrench) but still has the hole largely uncovered. Today some 24 hours after installation, I tested it and I have water leaking down. So have I buggered this up completely and now have to go back to square one of calling a plumber? Or can I attempt to reinstall again if I remove all the wet area clear silicone I used and remove the rubber rings and just use the nut? Also will removal damage the pop up waste?
Hey Lisa, you can definitely re-do this yourself! And what you said is the perfect solution …clean off the silicone, remove the washers, and reseal it in place being mindful of the waste outlet holes lining up. Please let us know how you get on. Best of luck 👍Kent
How can I cut an old resin countertop with integrated sink, to replace the sink with a porcelan drop in sink?
I just did this waiting for it to dry, iam still anxious about not using any of the rubber rings
Well done Lotfi👍, I'm sure you will be happy with the seal. Pease let us all know how you get on. Thanks, Kent
All good except how do we identify the overflow appertures to line them up?
Hey Helen, have a look down the plug hole before the new waste is connected, you’ll be able to see the overflow inlet, make a mental note of its location, when you position the new waste, find the overflow inlet holes and line then up as you seal/tighten in place👍 then fit the plug last. Best of luck and let us know how you get on. Kent
@@InspireDIY brilliant! Thank you. your video made it look easy 😁
To be honest that's near enough exactly how I do it fair play!
Haha, thanks Plumber R.J.C !! I'm on the right track then👌
Why is the 32mm to 40mm adapter required
Hey Haris, good question! the pop-up plug I bought has a 32mm outlet, had to make it fit the 40mm plumbing.. if I had looked around a bit before buying I may have found a plug with a 40mm waste🤔. Next time. Kent
Thanks mate it helped me alot
You're welcome Aman, I'm curious.. what part of your project were you needing help with? Kent
Thanks for this video - I have virtually the same drain waste mechanism installed by a plumber that leaks. in a new vanity installed. I've already had him back and he took the lazy option of piling on silicon around the outside of the flange extending up to the basin underneath (white silicone as well and looked like a dog's breakfast). Guess what, a few months later the leaking is back. I've had to pick off all the silicone which took a lot of time and stuck in the grooves and take the pipes apart - no washer in the first pipe which is what I thought was causing the leak. A trip to Bunnings for washers - connected everything again and guess what - it is still leaking. After carefully watching this morning with a torch and mirror, I could see that it is leaking from the flange. I had no idea this was screwed on as a separate component until watching your video so now hopefully once I can disconnect, I'll get this problem sorted out. I can't go to Bunnings for the silicone either during COVID lockdown. Anyone reading this - the drain stinks when pulled apart so have something like tin foil and rubber bands to cover the pipe leading to the sewerage. Maybe I'll take my own video to show other women that this is something they could tackle? Thanks again for the video (c:
Thanks for the positive feedback Michelle, I'm glad you're able to fix it yourself using this video! Best of luck being leak free in the future 😉
Any plumber who uses silicon to stop a leak isn’t a plumber
Why use silicone have to wait around 12 - 15 hrs to make sure no leaks. Use plumbers mate
Thankyou sadly I used the rubber o rings and they have failed in less than 6 months
oh dear, I guess that's why the plumber advised me to discard them.. did you manage to fix it up? Kent
How long does it need to dry before testing?
Hey Tomasz, great Q. With silicone as a sealer you can run water over it straight away. Just be mindful not to move the plumbing at all while it all sets up.. cheers, Kent
Silicon over plumbers putty? Any particular reason?
Hey, no not particularly BrotherRobb, I've just always used silicone and had good results, what's your preference?
I tried to get plumbers putty but everywhere I went didn't have any and everyone told me "just use silicone". Seems using silicone is the more common method in Australia.
Thanks
You’re welcome mate🤙
Legend! Cheers
You are welcome Klokmedia, glad it helped👍
Cool
Oh stop it🫢
Very bad advice,you should never use silicone to seal up a plug waste, The next plumber who needs to replace that plug waste will do a lot of damage just getting the part off, you should use the seals along with Plummers Mait-Please no one ever use silicone to seal up such things unless your willing to take the chance of having to replace the sink as well.
Thanks
You’re welcome mate👍Kent