Oistrakh/ Kondrashin: Viotti Violin Concerto No. 22 (Rec. 1948)

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  • @JuanMartinexplacerez-mw3we
    @JuanMartinexplacerez-mw3we 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Maravillosa ejecución del Prestigioso Maestro y Excepcional Violinista David Oistrakh.
    BRAVO.

  • @trig2mc6
    @trig2mc6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Somehow it's so satisfying listening to Oistrakh's trills. Thanks for sharing. I really like this rendition.

  • @Treborstuben
    @Treborstuben 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Fantastic peace and performance!! Bravo!

  • @luisalfonsodiaz156
    @luisalfonsodiaz156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unübertroffen bleibt diese herrliche Interpretation von Oistrakh, besonders den zweiten Satz.

  • @aminawahba7938
    @aminawahba7938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This Viotti concerto is certainly a Divine inspiration... Enchanting !!!

  • @kniazigor2276
    @kniazigor2276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Je connaissais la très belle version d'Isaac Stern mais celle-ci, par Oistrakh, m'était complètement inconnue et c'est une véritable merveille. Par ailleurs les cadences de David sont impressionnantes. Un grand merci à Hartmud Plath pour ce partage.

    • @09renovator
      @09renovator ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I saw Isaac Stern play this concerto at Guildford Cathedral in 1966 at the height of his powers and enjoyed his performance immensely. I was at the Royal Albert Hall in the late 60's when Oistrakh played the Beethoven Violin Concerto before the interval and came back after it and played the Tchaikovsky.. Wonderful tone. This recording really does not do justice to it , but as always with Oistrakh his interpretation brings out things in the music that one had not heard before.

  • @wq6737
    @wq6737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wunderschön, atemberaubend gespielt, und ein gottvolles Adagio.

  • @erwannarbarz7718
    @erwannarbarz7718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Merci beaucoup de nous faire découvrir ce concerto trop peu connu!

  • @user-fd1vq3rz4g
    @user-fd1vq3rz4g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    !!!!!!!!!+++ Блестящее исполнение !!! НЕПОВТОРИМЫЙ СКРИПАЧ !!!

  • @carlthopebenyar5455
    @carlthopebenyar5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is the best recording I've ever heard..

    • @robotnik77
      @robotnik77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perlman has a recording of many concerti used by teachers for didactic purposes. In the early days of violin performance many of them were included in programs, but as more sophisticated music for violin was composed, many fell out of favor - but still used in teaching. They are rarely recorded, but you can find some if you know the violin repertoire used in study, and do an exhaustive search. You can find Accolay, and others - some Vieuxtemps, etc.

    • @carlthopebenyar5455
      @carlthopebenyar5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robotnik77 I checked out Accolay's concerto and it was mind blowing...Thanks! But I'm rather surprised that even though, these violinists composed such beautiful pieces, they remained rather obscure!

    • @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901
      @hermanhillyrottier-jassies4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just fantastic.

    • @leonidpolonsky4932
      @leonidpolonsky4932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course D.Oistrakh was very great musician, real genius, nevertheless try this th-cam.com/video/BrxaUqVH4lE/w-d-xo.html

    • @gianlucalav
      @gianlucalav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you listened GRUMIAUX performance?....!!!

  • @geigenatelierbrusch469
    @geigenatelierbrusch469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stupende. Come sempre Oistrach ci sorpresa, anzi ci lasca a bocca apperta con sua incredibile maestria. Nel secondo movimento usa la versione di Joseph Joachim con tutti i bei ornamenti e la cadenza. Nel primo movimento invece usa quella di Ferdinand David.

  • @saumiasinghal94662
    @saumiasinghal94662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can I just say that this recording has changed my life.. my personality.. the way I see everything! It may seem like something that many people just go by and say at every classical piece... But this is by far the most innocent and life-appreciating piece I've ever heard... (Not forgetting the sense of reality which exists within this piece!)
    I can fail everything... Literally everything ... but this piece would then also not fail to make me smile..

    • @johanngottlieb
      @johanngottlieb  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate your comment very much. I had uploaded this for a curious reason, not to explain here. I was nearly about to remove it, since I'm not just the upload-type on TH-cam. But now it shall stay.

    • @saumiasinghal94662
      @saumiasinghal94662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johanngottlieb I must say that the discovery of this recording is one of the happiest memories of my life... This piece (especially the Adagio) makes me cherish life every time I listen to it... I have no words to express my gratitude for you, good sir, have, in a way, changed my life! :)

    • @johanngottlieb
      @johanngottlieb  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saumiasinghal94662 I just came over another, I think, quite charming rendition by Fritz Kreisler: th-cam.com/video/l3NR7Rkj3GY/w-d-xo.html

    • @violintegral
      @violintegral ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was actually Brahms' favorite violin concerto, maybe even his favorite piece of music ever written, and he spoke very highly of it. His friend, the violinist Joachim (for whom Brahms wrote his violin concerto) once played it three times in a row for him while he accompanied on piano. Joachim said, "That is why I always called this piece *his* concerto by Viotti."

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johanngottliebyes i need it please

  • @art5119
    @art5119 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Великий Ойстрах!
    Великая советская скрипичная школа!
    Браво! Спасибо!

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quelle magnifique enregistrement. On joue cela tout enfant, quand il faut une grande maturité pour aborder tant de détails. David survole tout cela avec tant de délicatesse que ça nous amène à un tout autre monde.
    Merci pour ce partage.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      J’apprends le premier movement a 47 ans. Je vais prendre confiance que je suis assez âgée selon vous 😘

  • @yzimmer4789
    @yzimmer4789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    now I ask myself, how comes that a composer of such concerto, compared to others of his time, remained so largely unknown...?

    • @larshenrikrn4105
      @larshenrikrn4105 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was not. Until the 1920 this concerto was regarded on par with Beethoven and Brahms

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@larshenrikrn4105that’s very interesting. you know who that usually happens to is women artists. Quite recognized and lauded in their own time, they became forgotten until recently.
      I have heard 2 interviews where someone (once it was Kreisler) saying this was Brahms’s favourite concerto and then the interviewer snickers derisively. Snobs that follow the fame I guess.

  • @katiavonaltrock1584
    @katiavonaltrock1584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    for years, I had bought this recording. Now I enjoy it with an unchanged delight, how would Joshua Bell appreciate Oistrakh !s playing ?????

  • @violinbuff3782
    @violinbuff3782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oistrakh was great and this is a really beautiful recording. Oistrahk was an old friend of my late great father Oscar Shumsky. Oistrakh loved Dad's playing and violinists may be interested to hear another very great rendition by a young Oscar Shumsky which can be heard on TH-cam🎉

    • @AdamantSeraph
      @AdamantSeraph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your grandfather was a much greater artist than Oistrakh

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will check it out

    • @lehrmandavid10
      @lehrmandavid10 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for directing me to your late father's recording. It is exquisite. I thought the cadenza in the first mvt might be his. It was really gorgeous. I was a violin student at the time while he taught. His students adored him. I recall some made mention of his highly imaginative fingerings. Lucky you, to have this great artist as a dad!

    • @YefimRevutsky
      @YefimRevutsky 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What an incredible piece. As teenager I played probably #23. But 22, much more beautiful. Thanks so much

  • @IbrahimHoldsForth
    @IbrahimHoldsForth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the cd jacket of a brahms vc recording brought me here

  • @robotnik77
    @robotnik77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder what the other 21 Viotti Concertos are like - are they extant, or lost? The only ones I played while a student were 22 & 23.

    • @geigenatelierbrusch469
      @geigenatelierbrusch469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Viotti wrote about 30 concertos. An Italian violinvirtuoso recorded all of them (What a feat!). I listened to some of them. No. 24 is very beautiful, whereas no. 23 is more simplistic. Yet I don't want to judge too much. There is certainly o lot of beautiful music.

    • @canaleteatrale6662
      @canaleteatrale6662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/K2csdfVKTF8/w-d-xo.html

    • @robotnik77
      @robotnik77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geigenatelierbrusch469 Danke sehr!

    • @norbertflorianschuck9300
      @norbertflorianschuck9300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I remember right, there are 2 concertos for 2 violins, too.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@norbertflorianschuck9300oooh

  • @meyerbeer13
    @meyerbeer13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brahms' favorite violin concerto

  • @BADRUBULDURA
    @BADRUBULDURA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @user-nv1gv6dc3k
    @user-nv1gv6dc3k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very great concerto of very greatest artistic value, but especially the third movement is not a small challenge even for the performers of the greatest virtuosity, like Ravmaninov,s third concerto for the pianists.
    May be that's why it's so rare we here this peice in the concerts.
    It's just my impression but Maestro may have made 3 or 4 takes for the third movement.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Idk about any of that. It’s considered a student piece isn’t it?

    • @magisterthefirst
      @magisterthefirst 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@M_SC i believe so as i am currently learning to play it

  • @embee1522
    @embee1522 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know whose cadenzas these are?

  • @user-lk3ig5be1v
    @user-lk3ig5be1v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Вауу

  • @user-tf3tb5ck1d
    @user-tf3tb5ck1d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:52

  • @mellona4873
    @mellona4873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:56

  • @anabelcher3813
    @anabelcher3813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What cadenza is he playing?

    • @johanngottlieb
      @johanngottlieb  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The cadenza is by Ferdinand David.

    • @anabelcher3813
      @anabelcher3813 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@johanngottlieb Itzhak Perlman also plays this one, right?

    • @johanngottlieb
      @johanngottlieb  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anabelcher3813 Haven't heard Perlman yet.

    • @carlthopebenyar5455
      @carlthopebenyar5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anabelcher3813 But that recording has young Itzhak Perlman playing....This, on the other hand, is the best recording I've ever heard!

    • @priscianusjr
      @priscianusjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carlthopebenyar5455 Not so. Perlman did play this as a boy, and on the album cover is a photo of the boy Perlman playing the violin, but the album was recorded tin May 1998 when Perlman was 52. Not to imply anything against Oistrakh.

  • @ILikeBirds
    @ILikeBirds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    14:37

    • @planetaflop8378
      @planetaflop8378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you read my mind?

    • @ILikeBirds
      @ILikeBirds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@planetaflop8378 did you come from the Hilary Hahn playing at age 10 video too?

    • @planetaflop8378
      @planetaflop8378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ILikeBirds omg yes

    • @ILikeBirds
      @ILikeBirds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@planetaflop8378 lol

  • @winglow7615
    @winglow7615 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love hearing children playing this piece. Oistrakh may be a great violinist, but he doesn't have the simplicity and innocence children have.

  • @dm5374
    @dm5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oistrakh will always be the genius, second only - or tied with - Heiftez, but the pedestrian intro by Kondrashin is really terrible. The orchestra comes in like the proverbial ton of bricks. I was expecting much better, I mean "leggerezza", this isn't Glazunov (with all respect). Is this recording a Melodya production?

    • @johanngottlieb
      @johanngottlieb  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is, indeed, a Melodya production.

    • @GIROSSINI58
      @GIROSSINI58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J' adore" KK. Trasforma il virtuosismo in emozione mantenendo l eleganza del classicismo. Russian school. E l intro non è pedestre, ma AULICA.

    • @dm5374
      @dm5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GIROSSINI58 Rispetto la Sua opinione e mi spiego meglio. L'intro è terribilmente datata per gli standard odierni: aggettivi come "classicismo" e "Russian school" non c'entrano nulla con Viotti, che è di epoca anteriore. Provi ad ascoltare i Brandenburghesi con i Berliner diretti da Von Karajan (Deutsch Grammophon. of course). Eleganza e classicismo, ma inascoltabili con l'orecchio d'oggi.

    • @carlonordio4668
      @carlonordio4668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. At that time Oistrach was - with Menhuin and Stern - the best of the best.But in URSS there where not so good conductors. Stalin had done his job.

    • @carlthopebenyar5455
      @carlthopebenyar5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@carlonordio4668 Kondrashin was actually a good conductor... and idk why but I prefer this intro... I mean.. I keep shifting between Grumiaux recording and this one...

  • @user-uk8ls8bq4h
    @user-uk8ls8bq4h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    이렇게 아름다운 곡을 이토록 끔찍할만큼 듣기싫게 연주하는 사람 처음 본다. 박자는 주체를 못하고 빨라지기만 하고 아무 감정 이입없이 손가락만 빠르게 돌린다.
    이 연주자는 카덴짜만 잘했다.
    처음부터 끝까지 카덴짜처럼 연주해서 당황스럽다.
    최악의 연주다!!!!!

    • @ninety4883one
      @ninety4883one ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Это великий Ойстрах

    • @the_show_must_go_off
      @the_show_must_go_off ปีที่แล้ว

      오이스트라흐 의 트릴 연주가 신의 경지인데.. 요즘 연주자들은 저런 트릴 연주 절대 못함.. 그만큼 연습을 꾸준히 안하는거지.. 어릴때만 연습함

  • @howardrothman3950
    @howardrothman3950 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brahms' favorite violin concerto.