I love the Savage 110 rifles. I just picked up a 110 desert tactical in 6.5 PRC. Before i ever fired it i dropped it in a MDT XRS chassis, put on an area 419 Sidewinder muzzle device, and a Razor HD Gen3 6-36x56. The setup is heavy but holy cow is it accurate. Once i learned about the 1 piece scope mounts, i never went back to the 2 piece. The 1 piece is just easier/better.
I have a 110 Tactical in 6.5 CM. Mine is still in the factory stock with a Sightron SIII 10x50x60 on it & a Hypertap muzzle brake. Yes, mine is quite heavy also but if I do my job it is very accurate. I also have an older Savage Model 12 VLP 26" fluted bull bbl in .223 with a 1:7 twist & a target crown. I have a 4x24x50 Vortex Strike Eagle on it. It is a tack driver!
Can you buy the 1 piece systems with 20 or 40 moa mounts? I think nightforce makes them but I bet they are expensive lol, anything nightforce your gonna spend some $ , which one do you have ? Yeah those mdt chassis are awesome, I want the mdt ess chassis, but I also think to myself why not buy a Ruger precision rifle and just add some small things to it , might be a lot cheaper for same quality, but I think mdt chassis are better than Ruger precision chassis ,especially butt stock
Exactly what I needed to know, thank you for pointing out the differences so I could determine which one was best for me. It's a tough choice but I am going with the 110.
Not sure if you know, but you can remove the bolt from the Ruger without removing the cheekpiece. Pull the bolt back, keep the release pushed in, and turn the bolt handle all the way to the opposite side of the receiver. Now that it's "upside down" you'll just barely have enough clearance to pull it out completely.
I have a Ruger American Predator in 308 and love it. Mine is completely stock with a budget Bushnell 3-9 scope for a total investment of about $550. It works great for deer hunting in the woods of NH. Compact and easy to carry through the woods. Thanks for the video.
I have hunted deer with my Ruger American Predator 308 for about 12 years but im looking to get something more traditional with a wood stock. I just bought the Magpul stock and plan to turn the Ruger into a more modern hunting/tactical/target rifle.
You can put a lighter trigger spring for the ruger to drop another pound. I have my ruger american predator 6.5 creed with a very light 3lbs and have a spring from. Mcardo spring. My be off a little on the brand name but its $12.95 Plus shipping. Going to try it and see if I like it. My trigger is already Sweet.
I have Tikka T3x in 6.5CM and with the factory barrel and my hand loads I can get 0.25moa. They are going up in price now and that’s why I was looking for a cheaper 308 that I can have fun with. I don’t hunt but I like to shoot bolt actions.
Tikka is an excellent rifle but as you said, they are going up in price. I think you’ll be very happy with a Savage 110 in .308. I saw a scout model the other day in .308 that is very nice. Shorter barrel to make it a little more handy and includes adjustable iron sights in addition to a rail for scope mount. I like the flexibility of this model. It caters strongly to the hunting crowd, though.
Thanks for watching. Axis and 110 barrels are manufactured to the same specs and are actually interchangeable as Axis rifles use the same thread pitch as a small shank 110.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516I enjoyed your video. I was just countering your comment that the Axis was only a 1-1.5 moa gun. Both mine are sub moa with the right ammo. As with any rifle, bullet selection is very important with respect to. accuracy.
My issue with the Axis really comes down to the receiver. I don’t doubt that with the right ammo and AccuTrigger it’s a sub-MOA rifle. As a hand loader and long range shooter, however, I often push my rifles to the limit with bullets that exceed SAAMI specs and the Axis does not give me confidence in this regard the way other receivers do. Thanks for watching and I hope to hear from you in future videos.
I consider the ruger American to be a notch below the axis. I used to make aftermarket parts for both guns and I was never really impressed with the engineering in the ruger American. the 3 lug bolt was an effort to cut costs not an improvement.
I have a savage in 17hmr. I put a rifle basix aftermarket sear in it to make trigger poundage light and it sure is light. Have you heard anything about the savage 110 varminter in the 223? I have been looking at it.
Nice video. I own a lot of Savage Axis Rifles. I am considering a Ruger American Predator simply because of the threaded barrel. Not sure on the trigger, but I like the option of a brake or suppressor. I currently have a 6.5 Creedmoor at a gunsmith to have the barrel threaded. It is a heavy barreled Axis II. It is quite costly to have a barrel threaded if you get a gunsmith to do it as an afterthought. I do trigger jobs on my rifles, and I can tell you that I can get an Axis trigger to shoot as well as a Timney with little modification. I have had a Timney trigger in a Ruger I had a number of years ago. They are nice but honestly, they are not any better than a good trigger job especially on an Axis or even a Remington 700. I am not sure about a trigger job on the Ruger because I am not familiar with their trigger. I did see where a person can install a different spring in the stock trigger to reduce the pull though. You are spot on about aftermarket parts. But stocks or chassis are available for both. Either of the rifles are good choices.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I’ve done a couple of trigger jobs on Axis rifles that mainly just required trimming a few coils out of the springs. I was able to safely get the rifles down to the 3lb range. I think the Axis II is an upgrade over the Axis bc of the AccuTrigger. My biggest complaint is the standard action length across all calibers. I would prefer a short action for short action cartridges and a mini action for .223 sized cartridges. I understand it from a manufacturing perspective but don’t like it as a consumer.
@@stanleymarucha8194 Hindsight is 20/20. I would not and availability of a rifle is also questionable. Good point on what to buy 1st and not have to deal with extra expenses later.
@@garrytalley8009 if dont mind could you tell me what site or company you guys shopping from to find these aftermarket stocks an parts for the Savages?
Wow that savage you’ve got is sweet can you do a video on that rifle/ barrel looks like a heavy bull with a flutes may have description incorrect. But it’s nice
Thank you, I’d love to do a video on it! Thanks for watching. I have a follow up video to this one with a free giveaway, check it out for the chance to win one of my hats.
Have the Ruger American 'Go Wild' in .308. Dropped it into a Magpul Hunter stock, it is a literal tack driver. Bought a Savage 110 Hunter 30:06 with their Accufit stock. The fact that cheek riser inserts and spacers for length of pull for adjustments in the box sold me on it rather than the Gen II Ruger. Just me, the rifle, and the ammo getting used to each other now.
+ Somewhat unrelated question but you did happen to mention the 375 Raptor Why did the designer(s) shorten the case for an end result? Nice information in the video btw
Thank you! It’s from X-Caliber. It’s what they call the Savage Big Varmint contour… tapers down to .810” at the muzzle. I got it with spiral fluting to help with some of the weight. It’s an amazingly accurate barrel.
This is my first time watching a video from you. I really would like to get into hunting but am at a loss. 😢 What build would you recommend for a broke california
If you’re looking at the model with the Magpul Hunter stock, I’ll say that I really love that stock. Earlier models came with the Savage Accufit stock, which is also great but not as good as Magpul. These models come with a full length, sporter barrel and polished bolt. I think they’re well worth the money, especially the 6.5. It’s very accurate. Just watch bullet selection based on what you’re hunting.
I’ve never liked the Savage Axis. The Axis to begin with had a terrible trigger. They’ve fixed this with the Axis II that now comes with an AccuTrigger. The barrels are the same as Savage 110 series rifles, they’re even interchangeable. But I don’t like the design of the receiver and I hate the magazine design and their retention system. For just a little more money you could be in a Ruger American or Savage 11 rifle that is much better designed and offers much more for down the road upgrades.
Market support is pretty good on the 110. Magpul, Bell and Carlson, and others make stocks. Rifle basix, Timney, and others make triggers. And just about any barrel manufacturer makes barrels for the Savage thread pattern.
I also like 3 position safety for hunting because I have had brush catch and open the bolt on Rem 700 and leave the round lost in the woods. Lucky I have not lost the bolt along with it. The only reason I have bought savage is for the barrel nut and ability to swap with after market barrels. I hate the recoil lug system on savage and Remington everything about the recoil lug sucks.. It looks like the ruger american has a much better recoil lug/bedding system.
I agree with you about the recoil lugs, I have rebarreled several Remington 700 and Savage rifles and getting the recoil lug lined up perfectly is always a little tricky. The Ruger American doesn’t have this problem and the barrel nut system makes it a breeze to swap out barrels. As I’ve stated, biggest downside to the Ruger American is the 2-position safety.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516 I recently bought a Seiko s20 that has a three lug bolt in the scope bases machined into the top of the receiver. Last fall I shot at a monstrous buck at around 300 yards which is normally not a problem. But the last time I took the barrel off of the Remington 700 that I was using, I neglected to glue the scope base and the screws down when I reinstalled it. Everything was fine until I needed to shoot at a gigantic buck. Moral of the story scope base screws will eventually come loose no matter how tight you tighten them. I've had this happen more than once. So that's why the Seiko s20 looked attractive because the base will never come loose. It doesn't have any MOA angle built into it but for me that's not a problem. Plus there is no recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel and the receiver. I took the barrel off and the threads were galded all to s***. The sako s20 thread is 1 in diameter 16 threads per inch basically the same as a Ruger, model 70 win and tikka and ar 10 under the barrel extention. The bolt operation on the Saiko s20 and the tikka are as smooth as it gets for a factory bolt action. And i like the safety which locks down the bolt and can be cycled with the safety on. The trigger on the Sako s20 is Good from the factory and tikka pretty much the same way, no real need for aftermarket triggers. Anyway there are some advantages and disadvantages to all of them. If Ruger would redesign their stock with a way to adjust the cheek and length of pull and more vertical grip and utilize ACIS pattern magaizines or ar 15 or ar 10 mags. They would have a bona fide winner.
Sako and Tikka rifles are both very high quality. And I agree if Ruger just put a little more design quality into the stock and trigger safety, they’d have a bona fide winner.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516 You sir are a legit person in a sea of artificial lures. I rarely get on internet and never comment… but was needing to get some quick info on quality of the 110 package in 7mm rem mag. I almost turned off your video thinking you were too young, reviewing modified versions… so not speaking of basic products most are looking for in a “vs” search And I was wrong. You can delete this as it won’t mean much to anyone else but it was refreshing to me to see someone online that knows what they speak of and more importantly speaks the truth. Not the standard have to love one side and hate the other without any rationale or reasoning. Don’t lose that character it’s not so common anymore. Thanks for your honest input and sharing with the rest of us.
savage hands down but the savage aftermarket problem might be that savage while being the longest made , they literally made so many changes some during production model runs in the same year even , that is frustrating . stocks bolts other parts , very frustrating . kinda like a mans wife stuff comes up but damm if i,d let her go . alota my other guns might slip away . hell i just converted my 204 r into a 284 damm
I'm not sure why people seem to think that a 3 to 9 scope is only good to 150 to 200 yards? The army expects that it's perfectly reasonable to be able to hit a 300 meter target with iron sights. So , the average shooter ought to at least be able to hit 4 to 500 yards with a high powered rifle using a 3 to 9 power scope.
Both are very similar. They both feature a transferable lifetime warranty, similar price point, similar size/weight/magnification, and both have a zero stop. Glass on the Arken EP5 is Japanese glass. I’m not sure about the Discovery but the fact that it’s not mentioned leads me to believe it’s Chinese glass. The Japanese glass is far superior.
Your Savage model 11 explanation isn't correct. For example, The Savage 11/111 FCNS rifles have the Accustock (full aluminum bedding block), Accutrigger, and detachable magazines that are all metal with metal magazine release on the rifle but do not come with a base/rings or scope. The Savage 11/111 Trophy Hunter XP has (non-Accustock) synthetic stock, Accutrigger, and (Savage Axis) detachable plastic magazine bottom with plastic release mounted on the magazine. Cheap scope bases/rings with Bushnell Trophy or Nikon 3-9x40mm scopes. There are additional Savage model series 10/110, 12/112, 14/114 and 16/116 which correlates to different configurations. The Savage models above have been discontinued and replaced with just Savage 110 model featuring both short and longs actions. The newest Savage 110 (features both short and long actions) model series can come with an Accufit (fully adjustable length of pull and comb height) Accustock and Accutrigger or non-Accufit (adjustable length of pull and fixed comb height) non-Accustock and Accutrigger. For example, The Savage 110 Apex Hunter XP comes with a cheap Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40mm scope and cheap bases/rings along with Savage Axis magazine. The Savage 110 Hunter comes with the Accufit Accustock, Accutrigger and all metal magazine. Finally, I would never buy a Savage (non-Accustock) rifle/scope combo unless I just needed the barreled action for a chassis installation. I don't call it a rifle build, because all you are doing is assembling parts. Personally, I would never purchase a Savage Axis or Ruger American rifle.
I was clearly referring to the action being the same across all models of the Savage 110 series, which includes the models you mentioned. All of the changes are to the configuration, not the action. The Axis is a completely different action.
I’ve hit 12” plates at 1300 yards. That’s the furthest I’ve tried yet. Haven’t had much time to get a lot range time behind it yet. Still less than 100 rounds through the tube.
check the comments on rust happening on the axis not sure about the 110. that ruger looks like a magpul stock with tripod and more closer to a grand no longer budget let alone with that glass
I’ll have to look into the rust issue on the Axis, haven’t had any of those issues on any 110s. As far as the Ruger, you’re right at this stage it’s no longer budget but it’s a good platform to start with that you can slowly upgrade down the road. Out of the box, even with the crappy factory stock, it still shoots 1 MOA or better.
You know, I’m not a big fan of the Axis but it is a very popular rifle. I think I will do a non-biased video comparing the Axis and all of its features.
Love the Ruger American. Amazing value for your rifle dollar and this is a decision that makes itself. Have enough experience with Savage to know that I will never own another.
My savage 110 is not a moa gun it is a 2moa gun my brother has one that is a 1 moa gun but not all r moa guns. That is locked down in a vice. Lead sled
Why didn't you just buy a good rifle to begin with instead of putting that kind of money in junk? You can buy a good rifle for what you have in that scope and the ruger is just as bad. Beagleman
There are a lot of people that would beg to differ with you. I am a regular at the CMP and shoot matches. My Ruger American outperforms rifles that are much more expensive. Even with what I have in the modifications, it’s a much cheaper price point than many other rifles. As I stated, the manufacturing process and updates in technology has really leveled the playing field as far as accuracy goes, what you end up paying for are features and name recognition.
i own a savage 110 expex hunter, it shoots 1moa even in a caliber like 350 legend that has the trajectory of a brick. sounds to me like you own neither the Ruger American or savage 110. Both are fantastic
Ruger used to have good shooting rifles not anymore because they just roll em out and collect the bread and don't care about the customer anymore just like every other company in the us we put out junk anymore just ask the buyer. Beagleman
@@lewisrice3741 Well, I shoot 1/2 moa with 3 different Ruger American Predator's. So how much do I need to spend to get better than that? If that's junk, I'll keep shooting junk.
I love the Savage 110 rifles. I just picked up a 110 desert tactical in 6.5 PRC. Before i ever fired it i dropped it in a MDT XRS chassis, put on an area 419 Sidewinder muzzle device, and a Razor HD Gen3 6-36x56. The setup is heavy but holy cow is it accurate. Once i learned about the 1 piece scope mounts, i never went back to the 2 piece. The 1 piece is just easier/better.
I have a 110 Tactical in 6.5 CM. Mine is still in the factory stock with a Sightron SIII 10x50x60 on it & a Hypertap muzzle brake. Yes, mine is quite heavy also but if I do my job it is very accurate. I also have an older Savage Model 12 VLP 26" fluted bull bbl in .223 with a 1:7 twist & a target crown. I have a 4x24x50 Vortex Strike Eagle on it. It is a tack driver!
Can you buy the 1 piece systems with 20 or 40 moa mounts? I think nightforce makes them but I bet they are expensive lol, anything nightforce your gonna spend some $ , which one do you have ? Yeah those mdt chassis are awesome, I want the mdt ess chassis, but I also think to myself why not buy a Ruger precision rifle and just add some small things to it , might be a lot cheaper for same quality, but I think mdt chassis are better than Ruger precision chassis ,especially butt stock
I own 2 Savage Rifles - a 110 in 7 Rem Mag and a MK 2 in 22lr. I have been very happy with both.
Exactly what I needed to know, thank you for pointing out the differences so I could determine which one was best for me. It's a tough choice but I am going with the 110.
Glad it was helpful! 110 is an excellent choice!
Not sure if you know, but you can remove the bolt from the Ruger without removing the cheekpiece. Pull the bolt back, keep the release pushed in, and turn the bolt handle all the way to the opposite side of the receiver. Now that it's "upside down" you'll just barely have enough clearance to pull it out completely.
Doesn’t work with the high cheek rest.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516 yes it does. I use the high piece and can remove the bolt easily by turning it upside down.
You rotate the bolt 180deg and it should slide right out.
It looks like his scope is in the way or rotating 180° but that does sound like a really good tip
Looka like he has his scope set to far back to do that lol little guy young guy knows it all
Good discussion of technical features. Most useful info I have seen in a comparison.
Thanks for the watch!
I have a Ruger American Predator in 308 and love it. Mine is completely stock with a budget Bushnell 3-9 scope for a total investment of about $550. It works great for deer hunting in the woods of NH. Compact and easy to carry through the woods. Thanks for the video.
It makes for a great shooting, compact gun at an amazing price point. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I like the Savage bolt and safety system. Your video helped my make a decision. Thanks!!
Absolutely!
I have hunted deer with my Ruger American Predator 308 for about 12 years but im looking to get something more traditional with a wood stock. I just bought the Magpul stock and plan to turn the Ruger into a more modern hunting/tactical/target rifle.
Very well done. Keep at it and the subs will follow. You have an engaging presentation style and seem to know your stuff.
Thank you! New videos are on the way.
You can put a lighter trigger spring for the ruger to drop another pound. I have my ruger american predator 6.5 creed with a very light 3lbs and have a spring from. Mcardo spring. My be off a little on the brand name but its $12.95 Plus shipping. Going to try it and see if I like it. My trigger is already Sweet.
I have Tikka T3x in 6.5CM and with the factory barrel and my hand loads I can get 0.25moa. They are going up in price now and that’s why I was looking for a cheaper 308 that I can have fun with. I don’t hunt but I like to shoot bolt actions.
Tikka is an excellent rifle but as you said, they are going up in price. I think you’ll be very happy with a Savage 110 in .308. I saw a scout model the other day in .308 that is very nice. Shorter barrel to make it a little more handy and includes adjustable iron sights in addition to a rail for scope mount. I like the flexibility of this model. It caters strongly to the hunting crowd, though.
I have a heavy barreled Axis in .223 and regular barreled .243. Both are sub MOA with the right ammo.
Thanks for watching. Axis and 110 barrels are manufactured to the same specs and are actually interchangeable as Axis rifles use the same thread pitch as a small shank 110.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516I enjoyed your video. I was just countering your comment that the Axis was only a 1-1.5 moa gun. Both mine are sub moa with the right ammo. As with any rifle, bullet selection is very important with respect to. accuracy.
My issue with the Axis really comes down to the receiver. I don’t doubt that with the right ammo and AccuTrigger it’s a sub-MOA rifle. As a hand loader and long range shooter, however, I often push my rifles to the limit with bullets that exceed SAAMI specs and the Axis does not give me confidence in this regard the way other receivers do. Thanks for watching and I hope to hear from you in future videos.
The magpul stock is out for the Savage, but it is a little hard to find.
Saw one on eBay a few days ago. As far as I can figure, people are taking them off the factory rifles and selling just the stock.
I consider the ruger American to be a notch below the axis. I used to make aftermarket parts for both guns and I was never really impressed with the engineering in the ruger American. the 3 lug bolt was an effort to cut costs not an improvement.
Nearly zero aftermarket support for the Axis though…
I have a savage in 17hmr. I put a rifle basix aftermarket sear in it to make trigger poundage light and it sure is light. Have you heard anything about the savage 110 varminter in the 223? I have been looking at it.
Nice video. I own a lot of Savage Axis Rifles. I am considering a Ruger American Predator simply because of the threaded barrel. Not sure on the trigger, but I like the option of a brake or suppressor. I currently have a 6.5 Creedmoor at a gunsmith to have the barrel threaded. It is a heavy barreled Axis II. It is quite costly to have a barrel threaded if you get a gunsmith to do it as an afterthought. I do trigger jobs on my rifles, and I can tell you that I can get an Axis trigger to shoot as well as a Timney with little modification. I have had a Timney trigger in a Ruger I had a number of years ago. They are nice but honestly, they are not any better than a good trigger job especially on an Axis or even a Remington 700. I am not sure about a trigger job on the Ruger because I am not familiar with their trigger. I did see where a person can install a different spring in the stock trigger to reduce the pull though. You are spot on about aftermarket parts. But stocks or chassis are available for both. Either of the rifles are good choices.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I’ve done a couple of trigger jobs on Axis rifles that mainly just required trimming a few coils out of the springs. I was able to safely get the rifles down to the 3lb range. I think the Axis II is an upgrade over the Axis bc of the AccuTrigger. My biggest complaint is the standard action length across all calibers. I would prefer a short action for short action cartridges and a mini action for .223 sized cartridges. I understand it from a manufacturing perspective but don’t like it as a consumer.
why not just buy the 6.5 from savage with the threaded fluted barrel model 10 two diff lengths
@@stanleymarucha8194 Hindsight is 20/20. I would not and availability of a rifle is also questionable. Good point on what to buy 1st and not have to deal with extra expenses later.
@@garrytalley8009 if dont mind could you tell me what site or company you guys shopping from to find these aftermarket stocks an parts for the Savages?
Wow that savage you’ve got is sweet can you do a video on that rifle/ barrel looks like a heavy bull with a flutes may have description incorrect. But it’s nice
Thank you, I’d love to do a video on it! Thanks for watching. I have a follow up video to this one with a free giveaway, check it out for the chance to win one of my hats.
Have the Ruger American 'Go Wild' in .308. Dropped it into a Magpul Hunter stock, it is a literal tack driver. Bought a Savage 110 Hunter 30:06 with their Accufit stock. The fact that cheek riser inserts and spacers for length of pull for adjustments in the box sold me on it rather than the Gen II Ruger. Just me, the rifle, and the ammo getting used to each other now.
Savage it is! ✅ great video well spoken thanks man
Thanks for watching!
If you were going to buy one 308 and keep it stock beside the scope. Would you buy the Ruger predator or the savage 110 Apex hunter xp
The Savage.
Very informational video thanks bud!
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Somewhat unrelated question but you did happen to mention the 375 Raptor
Why did the designer(s) shorten the case for an end result?
Nice information in the video btw
The case was shortened to accommodate the longer 375 bullets within typical 308 magazines.
Who's stock is that on the 110?
What barrel do you have on the savage 110 it's a really nice looking barrel man
Thank you! It’s from X-Caliber. It’s what they call the Savage Big Varmint contour… tapers down to .810” at the muzzle. I got it with spiral fluting to help with some of the weight. It’s an amazingly accurate barrel.
Like both rifles 👍🇺🇸
As do I, both great, affordable American built rifles. Thanks for watching.
What’s the exact model name of that ruger? I’ve been trying to find it online and I can’t find it that looks like that
Do you have a link for the FDE bolt knob and arm that the knob screws onto?
Here you go: www.anarchyoutdoors.com/dragon-scale-bolt-knobs/
This is my first time watching a video from you. I really would like to get into hunting but am at a loss. 😢 What build would you recommend for a broke california
I’m looking at buying a Savage 110 Magpul Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor. In your opinion, do you think they’re worth the price?
If you’re looking at the model with the Magpul Hunter stock, I’ll say that I really love that stock. Earlier models came with the Savage Accufit stock, which is also great but not as good as Magpul. These models come with a full length, sporter barrel and polished bolt. I think they’re well worth the money, especially the 6.5. It’s very accurate. Just watch bullet selection based on what you’re hunting.
Yes, the Magpul Hunter Savage 110 is the model I’m looking at. Thank you!!
Yes sir! Thanks for watching!
What is it about the Axis that you consider sub par?
I’ve never liked the Savage Axis. The Axis to begin with had a terrible trigger. They’ve fixed this with the Axis II that now comes with an AccuTrigger. The barrels are the same as Savage 110 series rifles, they’re even interchangeable. But I don’t like the design of the receiver and I hate the magazine design and their retention system. For just a little more money you could be in a Ruger American or Savage 11 rifle that is much better designed and offers much more for down the road upgrades.
I'm just curious about what kind of aftermarket support you would be looking for for savage 110?
Market support is pretty good on the 110. Magpul, Bell and Carlson, and others make stocks. Rifle basix, Timney, and others make triggers. And just about any barrel manufacturer makes barrels for the Savage thread pattern.
I also like 3 position safety for hunting because I have had brush catch and open the bolt on Rem 700 and leave the round lost in the woods. Lucky I have not lost the bolt along with it. The only reason I have bought savage is for the barrel nut and ability to swap with after market barrels. I hate the recoil lug system on savage and Remington everything about the recoil lug sucks.. It looks like the ruger american has a much better recoil lug/bedding system.
I agree with you about the recoil lugs, I have rebarreled several Remington 700 and Savage rifles and getting the recoil lug lined up perfectly is always a little tricky. The Ruger American doesn’t have this problem and the barrel nut system makes it a breeze to swap out barrels. As I’ve stated, biggest downside to the Ruger American is the 2-position safety.
@@yellowhammeroutdoors5516 I recently bought a Seiko s20 that has a three lug bolt in the scope bases machined into the top of the receiver. Last fall I shot at a monstrous buck at around 300 yards which is normally not a problem. But the last time I took the barrel off of the Remington 700 that I was using, I neglected to glue the scope base and the screws down when I reinstalled it. Everything was fine until I needed to shoot at a gigantic buck. Moral of the story scope base screws will eventually come loose no matter how tight you tighten them. I've had this happen more than once. So that's why the Seiko s20 looked attractive because the base will never come loose. It doesn't have any MOA angle built into it but for me that's not a problem. Plus there is no recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel and the receiver. I took the barrel off and the threads were galded all to s***. The sako s20 thread is 1 in diameter 16 threads per inch basically the same as a Ruger, model 70 win and tikka and ar 10 under the barrel extention. The bolt operation on the Saiko s20 and the tikka are as smooth as it gets for a factory bolt action. And i like the safety which locks down the bolt and can be cycled with the safety on. The trigger on the Sako s20 is Good from the factory and tikka pretty much the same way, no real need for aftermarket triggers. Anyway there are some advantages and disadvantages to all of them. If Ruger would redesign their stock with a way to adjust the cheek and length of pull and more vertical grip and utilize ACIS pattern magaizines or ar 15 or ar 10 mags. They would have a bona fide winner.
Sako and Tikka rifles are both very high quality. And I agree if Ruger just put a little more design quality into the stock and trigger safety, they’d have a bona fide winner.
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You sir are a legit person in a sea of artificial lures. I rarely get on internet and never comment… but was needing to get some quick info on quality of the 110 package in 7mm rem mag. I almost turned off your video thinking you were too young, reviewing modified versions… so not speaking of basic products most are looking for in a “vs” search And I was wrong.
You can delete this as it won’t mean much to anyone else but it was refreshing to me to see someone online that knows what they speak of and more importantly speaks the truth. Not the standard have to love one side and hate the other without any rationale or reasoning.
Don’t lose that character it’s not so common anymore.
Thanks for your honest input and sharing with the rest of us.
I appreciate the comments! Please subscribe and stay tuned for future videos.
savage hands down but the savage aftermarket problem might be that savage while being the longest made , they literally made so many changes some during production model runs in the same year even , that is frustrating . stocks bolts other parts , very frustrating . kinda like a mans wife stuff comes up but damm if i,d let her go . alota my other guns might slip away . hell i just converted my 204 r into a 284 damm
Yeah, it’s frustrating especially when it comes to magazines and bottom metal.
What 110 is it he has?
I'm not sure why people seem to think that a 3 to 9 scope is only good to 150 to 200 yards?
The army expects that it's perfectly reasonable to be able to hit a 300 meter target with iron sights.
So , the average shooter ought to at least be able to hit 4 to 500 yards with a high powered rifle using a 3 to 9 power scope.
One more question - ARKEN or DISCOVERY ED PRS???😊
Both are very similar. They both feature a transferable lifetime warranty, similar price point, similar size/weight/magnification, and both have a zero stop. Glass on the Arken EP5 is Japanese glass. I’m not sure about the Discovery but the fact that it’s not mentioned leads me to believe it’s Chinese glass. The Japanese glass is far superior.
Turn your bolt upside down as you clear the scope and you can then remove it! 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧
Your Savage model 11 explanation isn't correct.
For example, The Savage 11/111 FCNS rifles have the Accustock (full aluminum bedding block), Accutrigger, and detachable magazines that are all metal with metal magazine release on the rifle but do not come with a base/rings or scope.
The Savage 11/111 Trophy Hunter XP has (non-Accustock) synthetic stock, Accutrigger, and (Savage Axis) detachable plastic magazine bottom with plastic release mounted on the magazine. Cheap scope bases/rings with Bushnell Trophy or Nikon 3-9x40mm scopes.
There are additional Savage model series 10/110, 12/112, 14/114 and 16/116 which correlates to different configurations.
The Savage models above have been discontinued and replaced with just Savage 110 model featuring both short and longs actions.
The newest Savage 110 (features both short and long actions) model series can come with an Accufit (fully adjustable length of pull and comb height) Accustock and Accutrigger or non-Accufit (adjustable length of pull and fixed comb height) non-Accustock and Accutrigger.
For example, The Savage 110 Apex Hunter XP comes with a cheap Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40mm scope and cheap bases/rings along with Savage Axis magazine.
The Savage 110 Hunter comes with the Accufit Accustock, Accutrigger and all metal magazine.
Finally, I would never buy a Savage (non-Accustock) rifle/scope combo unless I just needed the barreled action for a chassis installation. I don't call it a rifle build, because all you are doing is assembling parts.
Personally, I would never purchase a Savage Axis or Ruger American rifle.
I was clearly referring to the action being the same across all models of the Savage 110 series, which includes the models you mentioned. All of the changes are to the configuration, not the action. The Axis is a completely different action.
What’s the max range that you can reach with the savage 110?
I’ve hit 12” plates at 1300 yards. That’s the furthest I’ve tried yet. Haven’t had much time to get a lot range time behind it yet. Still less than 100 rounds through the tube.
check the comments on rust happening on the axis not sure about the 110. that ruger looks like a magpul stock with tripod and more closer to a grand no longer budget let alone with that glass
I’ll have to look into the rust issue on the Axis, haven’t had any of those issues on any 110s. As far as the Ruger, you’re right at this stage it’s no longer budget but it’s a good platform to start with that you can slowly upgrade down the road. Out of the box, even with the crappy factory stock, it still shoots 1 MOA or better.
Should have compare with Savage Axis.. 110 is level up
You know, I’m not a big fan of the Axis but it is a very popular rifle. I think I will do a non-biased video comparing the Axis and all of its features.
Vrry nice
Love the Ruger American. Amazing value for your rifle dollar and this is a decision that makes itself. Have enough experience with Savage to know that I will never own another.
Ruger American is amazing value for the money. Thanks for watching!
My savage 110 is not a moa gun it is a 2moa gun my brother has one that is a 1 moa gun but not all r moa guns. That is locked down in a vice. Lead sled
No. The Howa 1500 is. Spend a extra hundred and get a better rifle.
Did a separate video including a Howa 1500. Check it out.
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Good for u an ur perfers lol remmeber just cuase u perfer something doesnt mean everyone else does.
Buy a Howa model 1500 instead. They're not called precision rifles for nothing.
For me customer service is a huge part and savage is know for their terrible customer service so no thanks
When did a 1000 dollar rifle become budget...
When the current $100 bill became worth less than the old $5 bill.
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Do less talking and more actual shoot testing for accuracy.
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Why didn't you just buy a good rifle to begin with instead of putting that kind of money in junk? You can buy a good rifle for what you have in that scope and the ruger is just as bad. Beagleman
There are a lot of people that would beg to differ with you. I am a regular at the CMP and shoot matches. My Ruger American outperforms rifles that are much more expensive. Even with what I have in the modifications, it’s a much cheaper price point than many other rifles. As I stated, the manufacturing process and updates in technology has really leveled the playing field as far as accuracy goes, what you end up paying for are features and name recognition.
i own a savage 110 expex hunter, it shoots 1moa even in a caliber like 350 legend that has the trajectory of a brick. sounds to me like you own neither the Ruger American or savage 110. Both are fantastic
It is not your money but his money if you want him to buy something better, give him the bucks to do just that.
Ruger used to have good shooting rifles not anymore because they just roll em out and collect the bread and don't care about the customer anymore just like every other company in the us we put out junk anymore just ask the buyer.
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@@lewisrice3741 Well, I shoot 1/2 moa with 3 different Ruger American Predator's. So how much do I need to spend to get better than that? If that's junk, I'll keep shooting junk.
I’d love to drop that savage into the Magpul hunter stock
Ruger is better quality that’s my thing and better customer support….