Hell yeah bro, parsing 114k right now no pets, no parse cheese, hoping this buff gets me over that 120k mark! (With some self improvement to go with it haha)
This is gonna be epic. I never used pets as a tanksorc, although I know that some do, but... regenerative wards with heals and also those new mines with shields? I might remove dark deal/exchange.
@eliforth Using the clannfear is essential when tanking seriously as a sorcerer. It's your only reliable heal that scales with health and doesn't drop block. I'd be suspect of any sorc tank that wasn't using it.
I've got to find a new skill to manage adds in later Arcs in Infinite Archive, I used Shattering Prison to lock down enemies in AOE's and it was extremely effective, but I understand that was a limited use scenario.
Shattering prison is still there, it just got renamed shattering spines. The main notable change made it it was that the way it deals damage was changed to work more like unstable wall so it can be used as an AoE spammable, if I'm understanding the notes for it right. This healing version is what they did with the restraining prison morph.
Twilight is like ~12K DPS that you just don't have if you go without this pet. Scamp is ~4.5K DPS and you can get that number from swapping scamp for sorc execute ability... So there is no real reason to use execute over pet because its just easier to run a pet (not to mention that scamp give you AoE useful when there are trash mobs present which is most of the time). And Atronach outdamages every other ult. That's why no pet sorc is always worse than pet sorc, even though being forced to always run pets is annoying.
Quick question about the double dipping atro and expert summoner passive. While the atro is active, do you retain both parts of the passive through bar swapping, or does the +10% to resources de-activate?
reading the tooltip it appear that the mag/stam boosts would dip for the 15s or so that the atro is up but return as soon as the atro despawns but as we have found out numerous times in eso that isnt always the case lol
Zos needs to seriously revamp the Necromancer class. Get rid of blast bones it doesn’t even work the majority of the time in PvE or PvP. Buff the skeletal archer and mage and make them permanently summonable. Also, allow us to actually have a flesh Atronach to summon as an ultimate to follow us around like the Warden’s bear. We can get major vulnerability in a number of other ways and we also don’t need a bullshit bomber Necromancer in PvP anymore. Make these changes and make Necromancers feel like Necromancers!!!!!
You’re asking for way too much. We can get away from a bomber build by making them stronger with DOTs. Rather than completely changing the pets to something dumb and likely weak, just have them benefit from the new DOT buffs and be capable of triggering set bonuses. People aren’t realizing how strong the new buff is. Necro can actually get a whole lot out of using all the meta sets like Pillar, Rele, Whorl, etc, 20% more in fact. People won’t just run necros as ult bots anymore. Necro was never bad, just didn’t have anything making it stand out (except Colossus Maj Vulnerability). Now it does.
@@MeanAndPristinenecromancers summon skeletons, golems, and resurrect monsters. What you’re talking about isn’t a necromancer it’s a bunch of sets that deal damage. The guy you responded to is right, zos needs to make it so we can summon multiple skeletons
This is perfectly feasible and what I have been wanting for forever, Blastbones is an annoying clunky skill and there is no reason why a “Necro” shouldn’t have a few skeletal/undead summons while the sorcerer has what we have wanted for forever
@@adrianf2065 it’s what the Necromancer class should’ve been honestly. I respect them for wanting to try something different but it hasn’t worked and the class suffers more for it. They specifically said when they released the class that they didn’t wanna make it another “pet” build class. Right away I knew the class wasn’t going to be good. Summoning minions is the identity of a Necromancer.
@@Sniperjones_007 I think their original vision can still be implemented correctly. Summoning minions is just one part of the identity; the other is rot and decay, the state of undeath. DOTs are also part of the necromancer identity as showcased by something like Ravenous Goliath or the tether abilities, which are great. ZOS just needs to get it right this time, and the best way to do that is tempered, methodical changes. I don’t think you all realize that if they upend the entire class as it is just to please your whims, they could end up ruining the class’s entire cohesion. You guys can’t even grasp that reason the necro has no permanent pets is because YOU GET A CORPSE WHEN THEY END! THEIR PASSIVES GIVE RESOURCES WHEN THEY END! THATS THE POINT! I’d rather they perfect the current design than retroactively make necros even more useless in content, in a vain effort to please people whose vision doesn’t take the state of the game into account!
The heal debuff to Shialds is going to make the 10% max mag. Buffing Strength of shialds kinda equal out... but the burst from the heal is going to be huge when outnumbered. I did some quick testing on PTS with 62k max magic and 28k resistance's I was getting around 22k heal and a 17k shiald, I was lucky enough to have a few duels with a Arcanist procking all status effects and major and Minor debuffs to healing and I figured out that using Shiald as a heal and not a spammable worked best. Especially 1vX I Tested in 5p BrightThroaght 5p Crafty 1p Domi and Gaze of Sithis Mythic. I feel with a non pet sorc in update 41 Gaze of sithis Mythic and dropping light armour shiald is kinda a must to get around 30k max hp 😉 But that was my experience on PTS. I hope I hear everyone else's experience on the PTS server for update 41
New to eso I followed your easy sorc build? Do I need to change anything with this update? Please advise 🙏🙏. Love the content. You make this game make sense.
Thanks for going over this man. So as I understand, if I’m using the easy sorc build, I won’t need to change anything as far as the one bar skills used for that build. Is this right?
@@janetsminten8196 you mean that silly pet that dies randomly especially in pvp? Nah I'd like a button for a burst heal not a pet that can die when you need that heal the most
Great changes. Seems like a ton of people on the forums do not understand why non-pet are getting the dps stats LOL. Over 12 posts saying that PET builds should get the magicka and stam and non-pet builds should get the health. Reading is not a strong skill these days.
Do you feel like non-pet builds will now get equal dps to pet builds or won't pet builds still have somewhat of a dps advantage? I want to kick my pet in the butt and never see them again.
They need to do different skins for Sorc pets and different colours for lightning. IMO Sorc and lightning staff is already op for PvE they need to bring other classes and weapons up to par ie all staffs do big multi-target damage just the element effect is different but that ship has sailed.
Id happily play pets if the sorc pets weren't so damned ugly and that blasted flappy thing wasn't constantly flapping in your face and getting in the way.
Sooooo it’s 10% max magicka from bound armaments, 8% from Magelight+plus mages guild passive, and 10% max magicka from Expert Summoner. Is that correct?
Yuuuuuup. Man this is seriously bringing me back to the game. Sorc will be fun as heck again. I wish the heal was more a circle around you. But that’s fine. Also wished we could’ve gotten a shield over time mechanic instead of the shield mines, but again the mines are good enough. Fuck I’m going to have so much fun.
@@nothinghereligma3363 sorry pve sorc is amazing, just use the damn pets lol. PvP is where I’m focusing on and pets are terrible. But I’ve been near forced to use that matriarch and now I’m free
Now if they would either give us a MUCH better looking pet or give us the ability to change our pet skin, that would be awesome. Hate how the pets look. Imagine being able to have a black wyvern or small drake?? Please ZOS? Otherwise, let us have just as much dps without a pet and make the benefit of having one be something other than more dps. Hate how current pets look. I either want to be rid of it or have a better looking pet. TLDR: these changes seem unnecessary and still doesn't seem like ZOS is balancing the dps differences between pet and no-pet Sorcs. -- Daily rant complete --
From the PTS patch notes, the magic blast bone doesn't currently do damage (this may change before the patch goes live to the real game server.) Instead, the skeleton sacrifices itself to give you a powerful buff to your Grave Lord skills and to all of your DOTs for 20 seconds. In the developers' commentary blurb in the notes, this is a response to player complaints that having to spam Blast Bones every three seconds doesn't give the player a lot of time to do anything but spam them. Note that instead of the sacrificed skeleton still leaving bones behind that you can use, you just carry them with you as if you had the Beautiful Corpse buff from the InfArc class set.
Wha tanky character is going to run pets to get the 10% health buff. The way they just stick their finger in the corner of their mouths and come up with these skills is a joke. If you hav e pets, more health. Yay. Why? What spell casting and etc. philosophy makes that possible. Just ridiculous. One finger in their mouths, and one up their bum. Yay. Wait til next update...and they can roll the dice and do something else. The trash skill system is such a joke.
Its not about more heals its about give the sorcs extra tools that you can use to drop pets. The only thing they should add is something that gives group utility in trials.
You made my day. I’ve been a non pet sorc main since I started in 2018. Finally my play style gets something new! So happy!
I hate pets. For me, they just get in the way. Although they were helpful in my 1st VMA run 😅 I don't like or want them on my bars. 💪🏻
@@eliforth exactly, same!
Hell yeah bro, parsing 114k right now no pets, no parse cheese, hoping this buff gets me over that 120k mark! (With some self improvement to go with it haha)
Eh Iam skewed towards pets was a beast master on FF11 for almost 20yrs
Sorc finally getting a blockcastable burst heal is gonna be so interesting for PvP
I see another video of the lazy sorcerer build after the upcoming update 41. 👍
Thank you so much for showcasing the animations of these reworked skills! Im not entirely sure if these will be the final designs, but they look cool!
Great breakdown on the update 👏
Sorc Tank here very spicy changes.
This is gonna be epic. I never used pets as a tanksorc, although I know that some do, but... regenerative wards with heals and also those new mines with shields? I might remove dark deal/exchange.
@@eliforth Same as I was thinking. No need for dark deal anymore. Pretty easy to sustain if set up right
@eliforth Using the clannfear is essential when tanking seriously as a sorcerer. It's your only reliable heal that scales with health and doesn't drop block. I'd be suspect of any sorc tank that wasn't using it.
Playing a recently-started Sorc Tank and Pet setup at Level 20 right now. So great to hear about this!
I've got to find a new skill to manage adds in later Arcs in Infinite Archive, I used Shattering Prison to lock down enemies in AOE's and it was extremely effective, but I understand that was a limited use scenario.
Shattering prison is still there, it just got renamed shattering spines. The main notable change made it it was that the way it deals damage was changed to work more like unstable wall so it can be used as an AoE spammable, if I'm understanding the notes for it right. This healing version is what they did with the restraining prison morph.
Twilight is like ~12K DPS that you just don't have if you go without this pet.
Scamp is ~4.5K DPS and you can get that number from swapping scamp for sorc execute ability... So there is no real reason to use execute over pet because its just easier to run a pet (not to mention that scamp give you AoE useful when there are trash mobs present which is most of the time).
And Atronach outdamages every other ult.
That's why no pet sorc is always worse than pet sorc, even though being forced to always run pets is annoying.
This is nice, can't wait!
Cheers Xy 🍻
Sorc been my stable dd next to my night blade. But now i might actually try doing a healer instead of always going to my templar or warden. Thnx
Quick question about the double dipping atro and expert summoner passive. While the atro is active, do you retain both parts of the passive through bar swapping, or does the +10% to resources de-activate?
reading the tooltip it appear that the mag/stam boosts would dip for the 15s or so that the atro is up but return as soon as the atro despawns but as we have found out numerous times in eso that isnt always the case lol
Oh dude when you said increase to your pool I did not hear the L at the end XD
Zos needs to seriously revamp the Necromancer class. Get rid of blast bones it doesn’t even work the majority of the time in PvE or PvP. Buff the skeletal archer and mage and make them permanently summonable. Also, allow us to actually have a flesh Atronach to summon as an ultimate to follow us around like the Warden’s bear. We can get major vulnerability in a number of other ways and we also don’t need a bullshit bomber Necromancer in PvP anymore. Make these changes and make Necromancers feel like Necromancers!!!!!
You’re asking for way too much. We can get away from a bomber build by making them stronger with DOTs. Rather than completely changing the pets to something dumb and likely weak, just have them benefit from the new DOT buffs and be capable of triggering set bonuses.
People aren’t realizing how strong the new buff is. Necro can actually get a whole lot out of using all the meta sets like Pillar, Rele, Whorl, etc, 20% more in fact. People won’t just run necros as ult bots anymore. Necro was never bad, just didn’t have anything making it stand out (except Colossus Maj Vulnerability). Now it does.
@@MeanAndPristinenecromancers summon skeletons, golems, and resurrect monsters. What you’re talking about isn’t a necromancer it’s a bunch of sets that deal damage.
The guy you responded to is right, zos needs to make it so we can summon multiple skeletons
This is perfectly feasible and what I have been wanting for forever, Blastbones is an annoying clunky skill and there is no reason why a “Necro” shouldn’t have a few skeletal/undead summons while the sorcerer has what we have wanted for forever
@@adrianf2065 it’s what the Necromancer class should’ve been honestly. I respect them for wanting to try something different but it hasn’t worked and the class suffers more for it. They specifically said when they released the class that they didn’t wanna make it another “pet” build class. Right away I knew the class wasn’t going to be good. Summoning minions is the identity of a Necromancer.
@@Sniperjones_007 I think their original vision can still be implemented correctly. Summoning minions is just one part of the identity; the other is rot and decay, the state of undeath. DOTs are also part of the necromancer identity as showcased by something like Ravenous Goliath or the tether abilities, which are great. ZOS just needs to get it right this time, and the best way to do that is tempered, methodical changes.
I don’t think you all realize that if they upend the entire class as it is just to please your whims, they could end up ruining the class’s entire cohesion. You guys can’t even grasp that reason the necro has no permanent pets is because YOU GET A CORPSE WHEN THEY END! THEIR PASSIVES GIVE RESOURCES WHEN THEY END! THATS THE POINT! I’d rather they perfect the current design than retroactively make necros even more useless in content, in a vain effort to please people whose vision doesn’t take the state of the game into account!
The heal debuff to Shialds is going to make the 10% max mag. Buffing Strength of shialds kinda equal out... but the burst from the heal is going to be huge when outnumbered.
I did some quick testing on PTS with 62k max magic and 28k resistance's I was getting around 22k heal and a 17k shiald, I was lucky enough to have a few duels with a Arcanist procking all status effects and major and Minor debuffs to healing and I figured out that using Shiald as a heal and not a spammable worked best. Especially 1vX
I Tested in 5p BrightThroaght 5p Crafty 1p Domi and Gaze of Sithis Mythic. I feel with a non pet sorc in update 41 Gaze of sithis Mythic and dropping light armour shiald is kinda a must to get around 30k max hp 😉
But that was my experience on PTS. I hope I hear everyone else's experience on the PTS server for update 41
New to eso I followed your easy sorc build? Do I need to change anything with this update? Please advise 🙏🙏. Love the content. You make this game make sense.
I’m excited for this Xy 👏🏼 ty for the update video ✌🏼🥷
Thanks for going over this man. So as I understand, if I’m using the easy sorc build, I won’t need to change anything as far as the one bar skills used for that build. Is this right?
Seems like bound aegis is no longer necessary and daedric tomb isn't a thing anymore
Vibrant shroud in ball groups is going to be stupid.
feelings on the taunt changes/additions?
Sorcs are gonna be hard to kill in PvP.
It just me or did they double the radius of lightning flood?
Finally a burst heal for sorc 🙌
You already had a burst heal, one of the best in the game lmao
@@janetsminten8196 you mean that silly pet that dies randomly especially in pvp? Nah I'd like a button for a burst heal not a pet that can die when you need that heal the most
"You can't, basically, die." Uh... wanna bet? You have no idea how badly I suck at this game! LOL
Right lol challenge accepted
Great changes. Seems like a ton of people on the forums do not understand why non-pet are getting the dps stats LOL. Over 12 posts saying that PET builds should get the magicka and stam and non-pet builds should get the health. Reading is not a strong skill these days.
Do you feel like non-pet builds will now get equal dps to pet builds or won't pet builds still have somewhat of a dps advantage? I want to kick my pet in the butt and never see them again.
What motif is on your staff?
*Great Video*
They need to do different skins for Sorc pets and different colours for lightning. IMO Sorc and lightning staff is already op for PvE they need to bring other classes and weapons up to par ie all staffs do big multi-target damage just the element effect is different but that ship has sailed.
Thx for the Video 😊
What happens if a set you have on gives you a pet?
You can tell non-sorc mains made the updates or they would’ve done something about the dang giant flappy wings or taken off the scamp’s stun. Sigh…
Oh I hope these stay this way.
No buffs for stam sorc
ESO PTS updates have given me PTSD. I fear updates more than I look forward too...
Id happily play pets if the sorc pets weren't so damned ugly and that blasted flappy thing wasn't constantly flapping in your face and getting in the way.
will u make a build new lazy sorc 🙈🙈
Can someone explain why this is cool? There’s already great heals and damage shields available so why should we care
I don't get it either, it's like most people don't even play sorc
Sorc already heal every second lol
Its for ppl that dont want the matriach for burst heals
@@DeadMansTale92 crit surge???
Encase sucked as a crowd control, and the change shown here finally turns it into something useful for tank and healer builds.
Seems like it’s going to be impossible to die as a sorc for vateshran and maelstrom
I take it Lazy sorc is getting an up date?
Looks like sorc Will be pretty badass tanks now 😂
like the changes! are we gonna see a new one bar build on this?
Ya but the imp need to be 1 slot like the skeleton mage
You said it!
This is amazing
Nice. Finally
I want some more relevance to other races
My sorc tank just got better nice
Sooooo it’s 10% max magicka from bound armaments, 8% from Magelight+plus mages guild passive, and 10% max magicka from Expert Summoner. Is that correct?
Yuuuuuup. Man this is seriously bringing me back to the game. Sorc will be fun as heck again. I wish the heal was more a circle around you. But that’s fine. Also wished we could’ve gotten a shield over time mechanic instead of the shield mines, but again the mines are good enough. Fuck I’m going to have so much fun.
@@DownloadEvony despite that the forums are saying having no pet still decreases your damage 🤷♀️
@@nothinghereligma3363 sorry pve sorc is amazing, just use the damn pets lol. PvP is where I’m focusing on and pets are terrible. But I’ve been near forced to use that matriarch and now I’m free
MagSorc for pvp is so back.
This is the best.
I'm honestly more interested in knowing how many keys pledges give you now
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long but totaly worth it tysvm@@xynodegaming
I mean, it's listed in the patch notes?
Now if they would either give us a MUCH better looking pet or give us the ability to change our pet skin, that would be awesome. Hate how the pets look. Imagine being able to have a black wyvern or small drake?? Please ZOS? Otherwise, let us have just as much dps without a pet and make the benefit of having one be something other than more dps. Hate how current pets look. I either want to be rid of it or have a better looking pet. TLDR: these changes seem unnecessary and still doesn't seem like ZOS is balancing the dps differences between pet and no-pet Sorcs. -- Daily rant complete --
"buff" the sorc? what news :/
Does the magic blast bone still do damage?
From the PTS patch notes, the magic blast bone doesn't currently do damage (this may change before the patch goes live to the real game server.) Instead, the skeleton sacrifices itself to give you a powerful buff to your Grave Lord skills and to all of your DOTs for 20 seconds.
In the developers' commentary blurb in the notes, this is a response to player complaints that having to spam Blast Bones every three seconds doesn't give the player a lot of time to do anything but spam them.
Note that instead of the sacrificed skeleton still leaving bones behind that you can use, you just carry them with you as if you had the Beautiful Corpse buff from the InfArc class set.
@@Dani_Reasor man shity they take away the 1 good damage class skill without it necro has even less offensive kit.
The stamina version still does damage via poison for some reason. It’s the only morph untouched.
I love these changes!
So Sorc healers will now be a thing?
I've had a sorc healer for 8 years great for getting babies through random dailies
They already were.
Always have been a thing, less popular doesn't mean not at all. I've even completed dungeons with dk healers
Always been a thing.
I've seen sorc healers in HM trials like SS, DSR and CR+3. Fun to watch them handle it gotta say
My best healer is a argonian sorc😅
What happens when am enemy walls into the new mines?
At last!
Gosh dangit, man. Every time you post, I get the biggest stiffy!
must be the sound of his voice because how could it be the changes to Sorcs? lol
Please update the lazy sorc once all changes are official.
Cant wait to play no pets again 😊
Problem is, it appears that you will unfortunately STILL get more dps with a pet.
@@coreymj78 from what the changes tell no pets will be buffed so thats good enough for me
@@coreymj78 btw till the update is there we wont be able to tell if w/ pets u hit more then the other build as the update aint there yet
Well these changes sucks, if yoi need more healing than current sorc its a skill issue
yeah lol
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I can hear the whining now from people trying to kill Sorcs in pvp
Not as hard as when damage shield couldnt be critical hit and hat no cap. 40k damage shields were insane
Sorc Tank might be viable
It's always been viable. I tank vet trials on the daily with one.
templar copycat😂
Like sorcs didn’t get enough love. Dumb.
Wha tanky character is going to run pets to get the 10% health buff. The way they just stick their finger in the corner of their mouths and come up with these skills is a joke. If you hav e pets, more health. Yay. Why? What spell casting and etc. philosophy makes that possible. Just ridiculous. One finger in their mouths, and one up their bum. Yay. Wait til next update...and they can roll the dice and do something else. The trash skill system is such a joke.
They want to counter pet build. If you give pets ressources than no pet sorcs will never outdamage pet sorcs.
Its not about more heals its about give the sorcs extra tools that you can use to drop pets. The only thing they should add is something that gives group utility in trials.