Would You Still Get One? // SURRON Light Bee X *2023*
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2023
- I made this video to go over 5 pro's and 5 cons of buying a surron LBX at this current time.
With there being a lot of new competition for the surron light bee such as the Talaria Sting R, Surron Storm Bee, Surron Ultra Bee and the Solar Eclipse. it makes the decision really hard on wether they are still a relevant bike to buy or the best option.
hopefully this video gives you some idea on which direction to go if you are looking to get into the E-bike/E-moto scene.
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Man I love this video, this is the best! 🏁 100% agree with everything you said and you taught me a lot too. (Luna Cycle 2024 Talaria MX3 - 38.4ah, 6kw free shipping $3400 +tax I ordered a Luna 2.5" fat riser bar, 241 Shinkos and Luna black pegs.
🇺🇸 I lived in Suffolk for 2 years USAFE and I wish I was there now with my eMoto. You live in a very beautiful place!
Thank you man!! I appreciate you!! Glad I could teach you some things, thats what i’m here for. Education and inspiration 🙌🏻💯
Great choices on what you ordered!
Suffolk is a really nice place i need to go ride there in the future!
Take care and ride safe, thanks for watching too🙌🏻🔋⚡️
Bro, I love how you deliver your message. Straight to the point, fair and real. Thanks for not wasting my time, that was incredibly informative!
Thank you man, i’m glad you enjoy it! I enjoy helping and entertaining so i’m doing something right aha!! Plenty more to come 💯🔋⚡️
You made some very good points in this video, well done!
Thank you! There’s a lot to say about all the bikes on the market and how to compare them against each other. Good to see there’s so many options available now! More content to come too🙌🏻⚡️💯
I just bought a LBX a couple months ago and almost immediately afterwards the String R came out. So many more options are coming into the market now. The LBX is great but needs to change to survive in this competitive environment.
Ah that’s annoying, definitely would of made the choice harder, would you of got a talaria or still got a surron?
Either way, the surron is not a bad choice and already plenty of upgrades available for you plus loads of information on how to maintain the bike!!
You’re right as well, surron need to come up with something new for the LBX for it to stay relevant!!! Ride safe man⚡️💯
@@mattfrancisofficial I'd probably go with the Sting R today. In the trails it wouldn't make much difference. But on the open road it would be nice to get up over 50. On a full charge my Surron maxes out at about 46. I also like the idea of the gearbox versus the belt.
String has more power too.
surron on top forever there is no comparison
surron got their ass handed to them by talaria
Another banger mate!! Great video!🤟
Thanks man!! Really appreciate it🙌🏻💯⚡️
Great stuff mate keep up the good work 👍🏼
Cheers bro!! Plenty more to come!!💯⚡️
This was a really interesting and cool video, thank you.
Thanks man!! Plenty more to come. Always open to suggestions too!💯🔋⚡️
That was incredibly helpful. Thanks mate
I’m glad it helped and I appreciate the feedback!! Thank you🔋⚡️
Another great video man, great work.
Thanks my bro!! Plenty more to come 🙌🏻💯⚡️
I love my sur ron x. It’s a Beast for me anyhow. Parts are everywhere for it. There are others that are faster bigger and better, but getting parts for them is just not on par with the sur ron x. Luna cycle has them for $4350 shipped. Buy what you want. But I’ll keep my sur Ron x for now!!! I’ll slowly upgrade it. ATM, I’m still getting used to it. Only 65 miles on it, but I’ve had zero issues. I check bolts, screws, and clean it after every ride. Just as the gent in the video said!!
Good to hear man! Surron’s are still the dons! Definitely still the leading bike in the game. I wont be getting rid of mine anytime soon. Upgrading slowly is the best way to do it, always gives you something to get excited about. And good job on the maintenance, got to look after them for sure! Ride safe bro!! 💯⚡️
Awsome can’t wait to get mine
Thanks man, you wont regret it. Amazing fun! Be ready to want to spend every hour of the day on it!!
love the surrounding you're going by
beatifull place along the canal :D
Yeah man it’s a perfect setting for a ride! Definitely my favourite place i’ve found to ride so far. I’m lucky im so close to it and luckily not a busy stretch of canal. 💯⚡️
I bought my LBX in 2020, and have close to 20k miles on it. I just replaced the drive belt. Thats it. And I did upgrade with the BAC 4000 at around 8k miles. I have been riding a CR 250 for 45 years, and I have way more fun on the LBX. If you do ANY road riding get Shinko 241, or you will go broke buying tires.. The 241s are half descent in the woods except over roots or logs.
20K miles!! That’s insane man! Sounds well looked after if you’ve only just had to change the belt especially if using an upgraded controller!
The bikes are endless fun and so versatile that they are loads more fun than a proper dirt bike.
I went for some Kenda K270’s and they are holding up well with both on and off road so far. Will give the Shinko’s a try in the future for sure!💯🔋⚡️
Change to a chain drive and you would have virtually 0 maintenance. Hard pass on the gear driven talaria for me
20k miles holy crap...I have 5k and thought that was alot...love mine but has a lot of mods...
Great video mate 🔥
Cheers man! Appreciate it⚡️💯
Great review subbed
Thank you man!! I appreciate you watching and subscribing. The next engwe e bike video will be real soon, keep an eye out! 🙌🏻🔋⚡️
Excellent review cheers
No worries! Thanks for the feedback💯⚡️
Nice video! I just hit 1200 miles on my Ron no major issues
Awesome man, 1200 miles of pure fun and excitement!! Glad it is still going strong💪🏼 ride safe man💯⚡️
My controller shorted out at 500 miles but Luna replaced it, I really enjoy my surron
Oh man that’s a shame! Glad Luna replaced it for you though! I have noticed wear and tear on some cables but i think that was due to how I installed the key cover plate. I Taped them back up and loosened off the key cover and seems to of sorted it!
Gotta love a surron though, ride safe man! 💯⚡️
I take mine almost everywhere. It’s one of the best toys I own.😊
They’re great bits of kit aren’t they! Endless fun. 🔋⚡️
I love my surron :) they made it for small mtb riding and putting the city the problem to many videos out to make us want more power or guys hwo ride dirtbikes get on them expecting to much .lol great video buddy
Yeah i agree man. It’s hard not to want more out of the bike when so many people share how awesome their builds are! I wanted to upgrade my power before i even got a surron😂!!
And you’re absolutely right, people converting from dirt bikes to surrons do expect too much out of them but i think surron made them the perfect bike in between a MTB and a dirtbike! I appreciate the feedback mate and thank you for watching👌🏻💯🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial :) u killed ad no worries hope ur well
Thanks for your intel
No problem 🔋⚡️
The surron will always be the best simply because it was first and the amount of time it was unchallenged. Near 5 years. It has amassed and will retain the largest community of support and aftermarket modifications. There has also been no bike that can conclusively best a modified surron, people have found ways to make the light bee keep up and surpass It's competitors, even its older brothers. The ultra bee now has the best chance, but it's simply in a different class, comparing a mountain bike frame to a mx frame with similar or even better performance when modified, minus all the weight. The surron is simply unique in it's appeal to all styles of riders and what it's able to do/get away with.
Well said! I definitely agree on this!🔋⚡️
Great video! i live and work in a small town with a city 15km away. I dont drive but being able to get into the city would be awesome. I don't have a garage but the battery is so easy to take inside im not worried.
Thanks man!! That is where the on road version of a surron would be ideal! I always keep my battery inside too. Definitely worth getting mate!⚡️🔋
Great video and points.
Cheers bro!!! Was harder than i thought to think of all the points and reasons for them. I’m happy with how it turned out though 🙌🏻💯⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial your points on the stereotype of surron riders is spot on! Where i live theres a lot of drug dealers using them as their transport 🤣
Came out well and the mic youre using sounds great 🫡
@@stingyrogerr haha yeh same around where i live man. Was trying not to put it in the video but thats definitely what i meant when i said about that point!!
Cheers bro, was only a cheap set up but does the job well!!
Awesome machine 💯🤠🤟
Cheers bud!!! Amazing fun these bikes are!!!
I want a surron just for fun off road use, thats why im looking at the surron lbx and not a talaria because i feel theres no point spending way more but using it in the same way yk?
Absolutely mate, either way you’ll love what ever you decide to get, both brands of bikes are decent. Surrons are still incredibly fun and powerful bikes. I still prefer my surron to any other options
was thinking to get one that goes around 40-50mph and it doesnt look like a dirt bike, has a pedal. can i ride it in public to go to uni?
If you get the pedal kit you might get away with riding on the road but is still quite risky!
If you’re looking for a commuter bike the best option would be a proper pedal assist e bike I would say. 🔋⚡️
The uktra bee is cool its more of a real dortbike tho so wont get away with riding it around town as an ebike like we do with surrons.
Yeh precisely man, it will draw so much attention just on purely how the bike looks compared to the LBX. The LBX has the potential to look like a more innocent machine compared to the ultra bee.
The ultra bee on a track would look and perform so well!!
@@mattfrancisofficial ya I want one but so long as I can ride around town legally ill keep the talaria. When they bam them and I gotta ride purely off road I'll think about the ultra or maybe talaria will have a version of the ultra. Just would suck to have to buy a battery for it ya know. Hell even the surron or talaria battery isn't cheap.
@@MotoAlias yeh true man, once your limited to off road use only it will be worth the upgrade to a more substantial bike.
As long as you can legally ride around on your talaria though then definitely keep it, can’t complain at that at all. The battery/controller upgrades are hella pricey and i feel the more you ride the bike the more you want the power from these upgrades, its a difficult and expensive game for sure. Addictive too, i spend hours searching for upgrades and already spent more than planned on the bike but I definitely wont be stopping now, still got loads more to do 😁💯⚡️
See this is how electric bikes should be ridden. You don’t need to go super fast to be seen as a skilled rider.
Rider slow takes just as much discipline and control.
I ride on a home made diy e-bike. And I do go fast when on the road or near traffic. But on public trails and all I slow down.
Yeah precisely mate. Going fast is fun for sure but there is a time and a place. E bikes aren’t made for going flat out every where either. Its just as good and just as fun to take some time and enjoy the bikes for what they are⚡️💯
Saving up for my first bike but what time get ..so many options
Its a tough choice!! The E Ride Pro is looking like a good option currently for the price.
LARRY! unless Ronnie drops a Thou on list price,
Thanx for your content, good stuff,
I’d be surprised if they dropped the price at all tbh! Maybe in another year or so! Thanks tho bro! Definitely more coming 💯⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial SERENDIPITUOUSLY Random shiite Larry just went and pulled the Osborne effect! {marketing DAY 1} Larry triple X going to R.I.P. Ronnie X Now as in Right the Phuque NOW! 3K now USA!
Can you install bicycle pedals. So I can ride it on the road?
Yeah pedal kits are available
i’m on the fence about either getting a surron or the new talaria that came out a couple of days ago
It has been made a tough decision with the recent release of the new Talaria. I think which ever bike you chose you wont be disappointed with the performance.
Just do some heavy research on all the options and i’m sure you’ll come to the correct conclusion for you. They all have their pro’s and cons and perform differently but either way, you’ll have a blast no matter what you decide!!
Ive had the Talaria R for 3 days and ive already put 205 miles. I reccomend it 110%
@@Dommy_Doohow’s it going now?
@2.10clips the bike is currently sitting at 2,218 miles and it still remains one of my favorite purchases ever, havnt had any serious issues with the bike at all either.
Id be nervous to be keep getting pulled over is this a big problem or is it dependant on where you live?
Don't stop, just take a route they can't. Dont risk losing a £4,000 bike because they will take it.
Exactly whar @FayeClegg said, dont risk it being taken off you, ride areas that you know well and just try stay off the roads as much as possible
Silar eclipse you void your warranty of you jump it or do extreme riding. Id say its good for a city bike tho. Its 72v which is cool.
I agree the Solar eclipse is much more of a commuter’s bike with maybe some light off roading but i cant see people jumping huge jumps or riding hard trails on it. However it does have the performance capability to do so. Will be interesting to see where solar takes it in the future too. The tune their running is so smooth too… pure butter. They definitely have their place in the market and will do well making bikes as well as proper fast scooters!!
Ron’s the Don 👍
I agree!! Still my favourite out of all the options 🙌🏻💯⚡️
Is there any street legal alternative to this for a electric dirtbike or how can i make my light bee x street legal
Surron do make a street legal version with lights, indicators, road legal tires etc…
Not sure if you can make the off road version into a street legal bike, i’m sure someone has done it though! ⚡️💯
@@mattfrancisofficial i reached out to surron they said the most important thing is to have a VIN for it do you know by any chance how i can get that on the surron light bee x
i just ordered a surron and i cant wait
You’re gonna love it
You won’t regret it man!! Be ready for endless hours of fun, hours of searching for upgrades and hours of saving for more surron parts 😁💯⚡️
Talaria way to go sorry
Where from bro ?
Range sucks
How did you manage to get a Surron? I really want one but they are quite hefty for the price! £4,600
Worked hard and saved hard man. Took a while but was well worth every penny💯🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial I see! If you don’t mind me asking do you have a job? Because I’m gonna start working to save up for a surron but I also don’t know if I should wait for the 2024 surron light bee x
Yeah i work full time and do youtube on the side in my spare time, i guess you could class it as a part time job.
Might be worth saving for a 2024 light bee and seeing if surron make any changes to the bike in the future. Buying second hand will save you some money but just be cautious as to who you buy from 💯🔋⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficialI’m going to buy one brand new I don’t fancy a 2nd hand one mate 🤟
Where did you buy this suron
I got this from a local motorcycle dealer.
Change out sprockets?
I have changed my sprocket to a bigger size
anyone knows whos selling an used one of this ?
Check facebook market place or Ebay
@@mattfrancisofficial thx
can you send me where you buy these for the best price?
Best place to go is surron official website and find out where your closest surron dealer is
how can I get one
Many different ways, second hand, from an authorised dealership!
50mph is EASILY fast enough, it takes some stopping at that speed with mtb brakes.
Aha you’re absolutely right, saying that the MTB brakes do perform incredibly well on a surron!!
@@mattfrancisofficial Sand cast alloy frame on Suron is real quality delta box section alloy 👍💪
I have two battery's the upgraded Samsung battery and an ebmx
The Samsung does not get 50 miles of range I rode 20 miles mostly eco mode and battery was at 8% when I got back to my house and the was the very first ride I took
That Samsung battery sounds worse than my stock batter! I get 25/30 miles on my stock battery in sport mode👀
i like the lbx it's just so expensive
I agree on that, it is a pricey machine. Worth every pennie when you ride it but a big commitment to spend such an amount on an electric bike! 💯⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial specially when there's more option now. Like i am very interested in the Talaria 3X. The price point is ideal and the bike is smaller and i am short i can't ride the sting R.
@@gabriellebenard5254 Yeah the XXX is definitely a good contender! The price point will draw a lot of people towards it as will the performance. Sounds like the ideal bike for you if you’re short😉. Would be a great start up bike to get into the scene for sure!
I just want it so I can boot to town and back.
They are ideal for that!
@@mattfrancisofficial it’s either this or get a car. This seems easier and a lot more fun. Maybe a motorcycle instead. Idk lol
The big brothers are harder to get and more expensive
Very true! I haven’t seen many sellers over here advertising them yet, that’s bound to change though. Give it a year and they’ll be available to all.
And the price point is a big one, will be interesting to see who’s willing to pay for which version but saying that they all have a different purpose. It’s all about how/what people want to ride. 💯⚡️👍🏻
Surron's are outdated and old news. Technology is always moving forward and right now Talaria is better. The good news with the Talaria XXX is that there's a more affordable option and that will force Surron to step their game up or get left in the dust
I disagree Surrons still got their place! Talaria is definitely making moves forwards quickly which is cool. I personally think the surron light bee is still a better option than the Talaria X for many reasons but one being that there is a reason why its cheaper. Its been made up of cheaper parts. The long life quality of a Talaria X is questionable still!
Yes, agreed. And they have more competition coming all the time now, with other bikes in the same category popping up everywhere lately, it seems.
Jesus loves us
Not all of us😂
Romans 5:8🤗
Amen
Amen
Everyone get used to the power and wants more I've had street bikes first was a 600 a month later I bought a 750 3 months later I am on a 1000
Yeah thats a fact! Always wanting more power! Still fun nevertheless 🔋⚡️
The grass is tall not long. Tall refers to height. Long refers to anything. “The grass is tall.”
Anything? So the grass is long then….😂
Yes but they are not worth the price. None of them are. That is the price that a new car is supposed to be.
You’re not wrong!! Each to their own though. Id love them to be cheaper but i’m happy with what i got for what i paid as well!! If the werent so expensive i’d have one of each to compare the lot of them.
I’d also love if a new car was £5000! 😂💯⚡️
@@mattfrancisofficial Cars and trucks were under $10,000. It's fairly recent since they started overcharging this rediculously. Now they seem to go up in value as they get older as well so there isn't even any saving up for the purchase since it will cost more by the time you saved up. Also nowadays they stick you with the price that the said object costed for them to build the first concept. That is not what it is worth. That is the price that it took to develop a finished product from scratch. Not the price that it costs to mass produce after the conception. In all actuality a surron should be a third of the price of the cheapest dirt bike.
If they were street legal it would be a different story. But like they are, they are just toys.
@@keldonator street legal is not worth more. Any of them are street legal as long as you put a headlight, brake light and turn sygnals on it so add $20 - $30 and it's street legal
@@Zane.Wellnitz Where I live, it has to begin street legal. You cannot convert anything. If you could I'd be riding dirt bikes on the street for sure.
Talaria sting is better than surron.
I agree and the Talaria XXX will define as the brand that has the edge pricewise
Talaria is definitely pushing their brand to do more and i agree is slowly conquering the E-Moto/E-Bike scene.
It will be very interesting to see how Surron combat their competition.
Still, each to their own. I think the surron LBX still has its place in the market and will keep selling.
I definitely don’t regret getting a surron over a Talaria, still plenty to do with it and endless fun to be had!!
@@mattfrancisofficial I'll be interested to see what talarias version of the ultra bee is. I think that will be a good bike to get.
Talaria better
Each to their own 🔋⚡️
Thanks for the video man. So I'm in the market for one of these bikes, but I've really been interested in the new Eride Pro SS. Again, as you pointed out though, they don't have any history or track record, being a new company. But they do look sweet though, especially with the bigger battery and taller height. It's more suited for taller dudes like me. But my question is what are the LBXs top motor power? I know the Eride Pro SS has an upgraded motor that can do at least 12 KW, but isn't the LBXs motor rated even higher? The Eride Pro S is only rated at 5 or 6 KW, if I'm not mistaken, even though the battery is still bigger than the LBX in the base model, but the base model of the LBXs motors are much more powerful, aren't they?
No problem, personally i think the E ride pro SS is the best option for a bike currently. For what you get out the box for the price its a great package and i dont think you’ll have any problems with it. I’ve only heard great reviews so far so would be a good option. I’m not too sure what the surron motor is rated for but i know it can handle high power but not for pro longed periods of time. For example you cant ride the bike at full throttle for longer than a few minutes as there is the risk of melting the motors insides. I’ve heard surron are meant to be bringing out a new version of the LBX so might be worth seeing what they change on the LBX before making a final decision. Hope this helps!!
He moans about anti social use of the bike then rides in down a tow path!
Another one too quick to making silly assumptions… Tow paths around me are owned by a private business who allows access to the public meaning it is still private land and states no restrictions on how it can be used. Even motocross bikes are allowed down there provided they ride with care and caution. Its only if you decide to be a nuisance that they will start looking into taking action👍🏻
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Thats what i used to think until i felt the power of one… especially upgraded.
Just the size and lack of "real" suspension can't be overcome, even on a $10k upgraded version. Just seems like chasing a dragon that isn't there. Maybe the ultra bee will be closer but will still require a $10k+ build. @@mattfrancisofficial
why would anyone wear a Thrasher sweater in this day and age! As a 80s skater that's selling out and being a poser bra!
Haha poser😂 that term itself is a blast from the past, you must be an 80’s skater. I’ve skated since about 5 years old and basically lived at skateparks until my late teens. I can actually skate as well, not just do an ollie and a pop shuv and call myself a skater😂 thanks for watching.
@@mattfrancisofficial hahahhahha dude u are from the uk I know u r a poser even us people from the Americas dont wear that poser shit and u have a jew tube channel hahhahhahahah and i can skate poser!
@@mattfrancisofficial why have i never heard of u if ur such a great skater hahahhahahahahahahah man u kids are such wannna be its sad, we never had skate parks poser when we skated hahhahaahahha POSERRRRRRR
@@AlanKelly-nm9lx is this schizophrenia
@@ahhhh226 you tell me u must know since only mentally ill people gaslight other and u offended hahah weak!
Y does this guy talk so fast almost like he’s trying to cause urgency or panic to the viewers. Chill out holy fk
I grew up on Eminem😂
Hmm im short 5’5 wonder if this would be a great size for me?..
Should be ideal!! I’m 6ft and dont really struggle with the size of it if i’m honest. Any one who is taller might but there’s options to make it bigger if needed
@@mattfrancisofficial well I’m sold thanks for the vid looks crazy fun