Catherine Zeta Jones & the Latino outrage! Here’s the problem..
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“After Zorro, people spoke Spanish to me for ages. I’m Welsh but that movie instantly gave me a new ethnicity.”
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I think that's beautiful in a way because she never did anything gross or horrid.
I’m Greek , but I don’t expect a GREEK actress to play the role of CLEOPATRA (who was GREEK)… 😊
I Would be HAPPY if Catherine Zeta Jones was to play the Greek Cleopatra! She LOOKS the part and would play it WELL!
I wouldn’t mind if That Israeli actress (Wonder Woman?) was to play Cleo, because she too could pass as Greek! (But the Egyptians would be up in arms about that, for some reason (J E W)) ….
I’m just confused as to WHY Jada pinkett Smith would choose a BLACK ACTRESS to play the part of Cleopatra?? Is she Trying to erase and rewrite history ?
Equally, I’d be confused if they chose a Korean actress to be Cleopatra?
Anyway, we don’t have to Literally Hire that nationality specifically, surely?
Would you be okay if a Ugandan actress was to play the part of a Nigerian Princess or would you be outraged??
American people think white people are not white that si funny only in Americana
Spanish are ordinary white any Spanish actors that came from Spain are white lol even English were invaded by Spanish lol
That's so funny
I mean, she never claimed to be Latina, and neither did Anthony Hopkins who played her dad in Zoro. It was less common to have 100% accuracy in casting in the 20th century
And yet they never denied it either… like a white woman who people ASSUMED was black and didn’t correct people when they did. Sounds ALL to familiar. It’s not that it wasn’t accurate casting, Hollywood PICKS these white figures to play OTHER races
She played Latina, when an actual Latina actress could have been cast so you don't get it.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes it’s not a docu series saying your heritage is completely wrong. The latinas back in the day were actually Japanese. It’s not the same at all.
Male privilege right there affecting our perception well spotted
Oh so this makes it okay right? STFU!
I'm Latina and knew she was Welsh and absolutely loved her in Zorro. Except in my household we called her "Catherinsita" not Catherine Zeta 🤣
I agree. Everyone I know really didn't care she was Welsh. It's not like she tried to hide it, OR pretend that she was Latina.
That's so cute! 😁
I never ever ever thought she was Latina she looks nothing like it.🤷♀️
That's so cute lol. I love it! ❤️
I did too, Rachel Weisz has that look too, as many do in the UK.
I can't believe she was mistaken for a Latina. Have they heard her speak? She's Welsh from the United Kingdom, just like Tom Jones.
Because of her looks and most people in the USA didn’t know her until she started in Zorro where she play a Latina
How is someone an actual Latina. Can this be determined by DNA? Should roles rely on genetics and science?
I always knows that Catherine Zeta Jones was of Welsh origin. I think people thought she was Spaniard from Spain because of her dark hair. Spaniards are not Latino/a, but European.
@@kathleendantzler Like Penélope Cruz. That's a good point. I can see the confusion.
@@Misterdonp And, that's WRONG 😮
Latina or not ,she played the hell out of Elena on zoro,she’s an actress and she acted
Nah that's wrong representation does matter
way to miss the point..
Mexicans shouldn't be speaking Spanish if you want to get technical. Spanish isn't a Mexican language. 😂 it's from Spain ffs. Which is in Southern Europe.
@@christina7215 What language should Mexicans speak?
@@christina7215 They were colonized estupida
I’m Latina and I love her! I don’t think she has harmed anything by portraying a Latin character. That’s just acting and talent ❤
She mastered her assignments.......case closed.
Thank you!
I do love Catherine Zeta, but all the lovely Latinos heah it isn't fair. Just like they place blanco chicos to portray Egyptians which doesn't make sense. They were black period. Elders saw all those Black statues in Egypt and they made such a fuss with Jada Picknett about her presenting black women as Cleopatra.. Vanessa Williams looks white but she hasn't played white roles. She played herself..
@@mead9 cleopatra was not black girl
As a Latina it’s a problem. She is beautiful but to take up doves that should be for specific ethnicities, it’s not right. It’s like the original west side story😩😩 white ppl with brown skin make up
There is no problem!!! As a 100% Latina, I support Catherine Zeta-Jones in the Zoro role. She did a great job and was strictly hired for her talent. I felt she did a great job in representing us.
You shouldn’t really support her at all she’s a terrible person in real life. Then again you’re proof latinas don’t use their brains
Elena de la Vega is not latina. She is Spanish. Her parents are both Spanish nobility, meaning there could be lots of other mixed marriages. And Celts and Gauls are related tribes.
Exactly. Everyone is so confused.
THANK YOU! I wasn't an expert in Mexican history, but it was obvious to me that the characters were wealthy European Spanish settlers and descendants from the haciendas and subject matter. Anthony Hopkins playing her father is a clue and Antonio Banderas is also European from Spain. The character of Zorro was also a Spanish man. 🤷🏽♀️
Thank you for explaining. The conversations about ethnic background and nationality gets mixed up so often.
@@Msnanamac YESS imagine getting up in arms that they used the “wrong type of white” 😭
@@blue3374 “the wrong type of white”?? but…. Not all white peoples are the same ethnicity 🤦♀️. A Spaniard is different than a German…. Come on now. Btw I have no problem with her in the role, I just don’t get why you decided everyone is Europe is one ethnicity Lmao cause that’s not how that works. Do you think everyone native to Africa are the same ethnicity too?
Who tf said she's Latina? This the first time I've ever heard this....I'm like Hella confused 😕
She never did lol
Same, it would of been big news here in Wales if she did that. We are extremely proud people. And we are proud of her and all the others who come from this tiny place and make sonethibf of themselves.
Everybody knows that Catherine is not latina, I don't know anybody who thought that she was. And she never claimed to be either. She's also very natural she doesn't do all the surgeries, fake tan and try to look like what she's not (unlike the kardashians or other celebs). I love her, she's unproblematic and talented.
She doesn't do "all" the surgeries, just some and has veneers too.
@@maryamkim1281 Talking about surgeries (bbl) and fake tan to look like someone from another culture. Not fixing your teeth or even botox/fillers or anything else to look younger. Two completely different situations
I actually thought she was. I am way behind
@@2handle. you're not, many others did too.
Initially, many people thought she was of Spanish descent, like Antonio Banderas due to her ethnic features and acting in starring roles Zorro. Later, it was shared that she was of Welsh background or of Western European descent.
Had no idea people thought she was Latina 😮
Me either. I was a big fan of hers in Zorro and it wasn't a secret she was Welsh.
It's news to me ......she's never made claims to be anything other than Welsh. People making assumptions is a dangerous thing.
I thought she was 😮
me too she didnt give off latina to me
@@Ryan-yw8iz I thought she was too.
Catherine zeta jones has always been beautiful.
Latina isn’t a race just like American isn’t a race
It’s an ethnicity…not the same as “American”.
@@Abcdefghiiiiii no it’s a CULTURE
@@Itzpapalotl.as a Latina-shut up
Facts
@@Itzpapalotl. no it isn’t lmao
I'm Mexican. I knew she was not latina. It was obvious to me and my family and extended family. Nobody cared. After all she's an actress, thats what actors do play people that they are not.
True but by her taking this role she stole an opportunity from a real Latina to break out. No hate @ her but that’s why this bothers some people.
@@evaphillips2102 The trick lies not in stopping people like Catherine Zeta-Jones from taking Latina roles but in opening "white" roles to Latinas as well.
I'm confused about Americans' obsession with skin colour, as a matter of fact 99% of roles out there could be played by anyone regardless of racial background. Representation must be an ubiquitous issue not a mean to keep the people firm "on their tracks".
@@Professicchio Yes! Exactly.
But I heard people complain that Jennifer Lopez wasn’t Mexican, but okay for a white person to play the part. But if Halle Berry or Vanessa play a white role that there be controversial.
@@mead9 Right?! I've noticed this too, these people are ok with white people playing them, but God forbid another minority, especially if a black person plays them it becomes an outrage. They are hypocrites!
But penelope Cruz is not Latina she’s from Spain
And who do you think created Latinas during the Colonization of the Americas? 🧐
Yup Latina and Hispanic are different
And Alexis Bledel is Hispanic so is Cameron Diaz but they are both cast white American.
@@PrincessPowerranger Enrique Einar Bledel Huus, was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and was of Danish and German descent; He’s white, I am puertorrican and very light skin, with hazel eyes and smoked brown hair
Also Antonio Banderas in the same film is not Latino, he's from Spain too
I'm surprised that not many people knew she was Welsh. How odd. I'm not sure why but I've always been aware of this.
I think it’s because for many like myself, we have never really seen her interviews or hear her speak outside of her movies. I have watched her movies over and over again and still have never heard an interview until this video and was like wow where did this British accent come from. I really didn’t know. She really made her roles believable and is a great actress.
Honestly I think very few people really thought about it. But everybody that I know in my life knew she was Welsh years ago.
White Latinos are not people of color..
Well younger generations..
@@KarineAlourde You're uncultured though. There's a world outside of yours duh!
I’m latina and loved her in Zorro. I’m not petty about my heritage.
I remember her start on British TV so never knew people thought she was anything but welsh
Well you shouldn't pass judgement on Thouse who don't agree it's not just your heritage and at the end of day people feel that role should have went to someone of Latina heritage. Especially when theres a lack of good darker skin Latina representation
@@merosepearl6325 she's not passing judgment. She's just saying that we Hispanics don't care if she's not Latina. She still did the damn thing.
OMG she was so good in cocaine godmother she played a Colombian woman. I think she did really great in that movie. From seeing that movie I really thought she was Colombian.
@@elhectero You're only saying that because Catherine is somebody you like, had she been a darker skinned lady that looked more black, you'd have a problem.😒
If she looks the part, and she does, and she can act the part then I see no problem in her getting the role. She auditioned like everyone else, seems fair to me. Actors act. They shouldn't need to have the same background as their character. It's fun seeing actors try completely new things, including accents, backgrounds etc....
I completely agree. I find it ridiculous when I hear people complaining about petty things like that. There are way more serious things going on in the world that affect us all as humans and people are out there nitpicking actors over their work. Thats why they’re called actors. They’re just acting. Smh
Also if she only acted parts from her own culture, she would have no work. There's hardly anything done about us apart from king Arthur and sometimes they even change his background to English when his genealogy is very well documented.
I think it’s ridiculous to get bothered by this. It’s pointless to get bothered by her playing a character that isn’t her ethnicity. She’s an ACTRESS; that’s what they do.
I think the same
But people are mad about Cleopatra,so which is which,?.and I am sure y'all would be mad about a white person playing Tiana,so which is which
@@purplelove3666 I’m not one of those people. I think they are hypocrites.
@Purple Love there's a black person playing the little mermaid
@@purplelove3666 I think the difference is that Catherine looks latina
And in Hollywood if you look racially ambiguous they live it so they can send you out for multiple roles
Asian people play everything from Korean, Chinese or Japanese for example
Interestingly no one said anything about Jasmine's actress in Aladdin not being Arabian either because the actress looks the part so people look past it
People don't care of a person stereotypically looks like that race
If Ariel was portrayed by a mixed race red head actress who looked like the animated character I can bet you no one would say anything
I was today years old when I found out people thought she was Latina!!
Thank you. Me too. Tf 😆
I am welsh and people assume I am Spanish or Italian,back in the past majority of welsh,were dark in complexion with black or very dark brown hair. She was a brilliant actress at the time, now we know now to seek the appropriate actor/actress for the part, with the correct culture background,even though acting is convincing the audience that your something that you are not,❤
People forget that British Islanders were (and still are in many ways) more similar to Spaniards, prior to the Germanic invasions by the Angles and Saxons.
Spaniards are actually more genetically similar to Brits than they are to Greeks. As they're primarily of the R1b paternal haplogroup. Which is the main paternal ancestry of western Europe. While Greeks are more genetically similar to Anatolian Turks and Southern Slavs
I am from Spain, and I can tell we all love Catherine in that movie.
I love the way you explained that, especially the very last part.
I am Afro Latino and I had no idea she wasnt Hispanic…. I think now having people of all backgrounds is important in Hollywood however I don’t think it’s culture appropriation if she’s pretending to be something and getting paid to do it. It’s a job. She not doing black face or something extreme then it’s not that bad. But more representation is so important
I agree.
Yea. Americans are often time very immature and ignorant
Yes!
Elena isn’t Latina, she’s European, Spanish. Catherine is absolutely stunning and she did an amazing job as Elena De La Vega, one of my favorites
I've been saying this and made a comment about this! The Addams Family are not a Latino family. In the remake, the father is Puerto Rican, but when they were first released, Gomez is mentioned to be Spanish (Castilian). She needs to do her research thoroughly before making a video.
I thought Latina referenced the descendants of the Latin based culture, which would include the offshoots off Latin with Spanish, French and Italian speakers/cultures
Spaniards are Latinos, genius.
You mean she isn't Latin AMERICAN
Zorro takes place in 1821, there were no “Latinos” back then as there was no such thing as “Latin” America, only the Spanish Empire, Portuguese Empire & French Empire that had lands in the Americas. Technically only real “Latinos” are the people of Spain, France, Portugal & Italy (Romania no so much) & their descendants around the world particularly in the Americas. Latin America wasn’t even mentioned until Napoleon III who wanted to get control of Spain’s former lands as he invaded Mexico & installed an Emperor of Mexico. “Latin Race” was to differentiate from other Europeans like the Celtics & Germanics. Latins were Caucasians (Roman Empire) not Natives of America or Black people. This like the Hispanic word first used in the U.S. 1970’s Census is misused by the United States & now the world.
@@dab0331false. I’m Hispanic. Not Latino. Two different things.
Actors should be able to act as any character, I'm Latina it doesn't bother me at all if she plays a Latina person, she's a actress.
Exactly. That's why it's called acting.
you’re okay with being whitewashed?
I've known she was Welsh for a long time. She has even stated she is a proud Celt one time at the AFI induction of Sean Connery. In Zorro she wasn't a Latina either. I believe she played a Spanish character which is different. (I think anyways its been a while since I've seen those movies). Some parts of Spain do have Celtic roots as well like Galicia. By the way Antonio Banderas isn't technically a latino either since he's from Spain.😜
Yes. Elena is Spanish, her parents are Spanish. They are also nobility, so there is a higher chance of foreign blood.
@@megmcguireme No. Elena Montero was half Spanish and half Mexican. Anyway....
@TM Martin, Esq. I always got the impression that Esperanza was part of the same class as her husband. But it's been a couple years since I've seen it. Where do they state or imply that she is Mexican?
I just remember that Elena is the first Zorro's real daughter (Anthony Hopkins) and that she was abducted as a baby and taken to Spain to be raised. Then she returns years later as a grown woman. The movie was set in California.
good point actually, Welsh ppl are more ancient Britons who some argue are related to northern Spain/Portugal hence the darker features.
My mother has the same features and is full blooded Irish but people always think she's latina. I'm the whitest ginger going and the difference in our skin tones are night and day esp in the summer. Strangers always thought I was adopted lmao
For sure, ppl act like northern full blooded Europeans can’t have an olive to darker skin tone
I never knew she was thought to be Latina. I always thought she was European American
She is.
@@tmmartinesq.6216 What? She's Welsh.
@@maryamkim1281elsh is European babe. All white people in America are European American. They just thought she was American … white American. And white people in America are from Europe. Hope that helps
I disagree with limiting any actor to playing only roles that reflect their specific culture. The people up-in-arms about Zeta-Jones being cast in roles such as the romantic interest in the film Zoro need to pay attention to the fact she auditioned against 6 Latina actresses ... Films and plays are not cast according to any sort of fairness. All casting is completely subjective and is the call of the director, sometimes influenced by a producer who wants a say in casting for their financial backing.
By the logic being used against Catherine Zeta Jones for playing some Latina parts, Vivian Leigh would have been forbidden to audition for her most famous role of Scarlet O'Hara or any US film that lacked a part for a Brit because a British actor must not be allowed to play an American Southern character and Nicole Kidman would be required to speak with her Aussie accent and audition only for Australian films. The art of acting is in being able to create a believable illusion. Apparantly Zeta-Jones did this so well that she won a few roles that some people now resent her having played.
Most actors are thrilled to get ANY part, especially early in their career, because it's only when they're employed that they can practice their chosen art in the most fulfilling way. Blaming actors for auditioning for parts or for a director's casting decisions (that are out of their control) disrespects the craft and spirit of acting.
Yes that's fine and all if she wasn't taking up an actual Latina or darker skin latinas spot . It's wrong regardless when the roles are already so limited . She had an opportunity to show support and grace and acknowledge that without trying to make herself out to be the innocent one when she had the choice.
Because I as a black woman have seen white ppl take on black roles for sake of "acting" but there needs to be accountability nobody forced white ppl to do that they have roles lots of an and when you take away that chance for good representation you take away a great opportunity for someone.
THANK YOU 👏👏👏👏👏
@@merosepearl6325 the things people are outraged about these days is so ridiculous. Grow up.
@@baylorsailor No, how about you shut up and listen to what people are Saying. On second thought, nevermind, you're probably one of those guys that got butthurt over Ariel being portrayed by a black girl.👎😒
Wales has a lot of people who look "Spanish". I think it's what the original people of Wales looked like back then before Norse and Anglo-Saxon intermixing.
Yes. We/they are the indigenous people even though some want to rewrite history.
I don’t think people still think that. When she was 1st introduced via Zorro she was also looked as having Asian in her as well. She’s full on Welsh Woman and one of my all time faves.
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ASIAN? I really find that a stretch. Lots of Welsh look like her.
@@maryamkim1281 Nah I’m a biracial Asian and she looks like she could’ve been hapa.
@@maryamkim1281 it’s the combo of her hooded eyes and very dark hair.
I'm actually a little surprised that she was ever thought to be a Latina. I'd never made the assumption that she was anything other that European. The notion of her being anything else is news to me
Yes to me she just looks white. She looks like Ava Gardner to me but they both just look white. I never knew anyone thought she was Latina.
She definitely does not look wasp (white Anglo Saxon Protestant) which is the “traditional” white people.
Nope. She definitely looks like she's from Jalisco or Zacatecas
@@dab0331 I know people from both places and that doesn’t mean them looking like that they aren’t European. I know what they typically mean when they say Latina they usually mean someone of Indigenous blood to a particular country That had been conquered by European Spanish conquerors. Not indigenous blood like Aztec, Inca, Mayans, or like Taino fog Puerto Rico. If they look like her they are more then like living in Jalisco but of European blood not the blood of the people native to Mexico. There are plenty of still pure European people living in Mexico as well as black people. Catherine looks like a European woman with dark hair. She’s Welsh and looks like it. They usually mean people with with phenotypically obvious blood of indigenous people when they Latinos. I understand that there is a difference that Latino isn’t an ethnicity but a culture so anyone of any blood can be a Latino, they think of all Latinas as having dark hair full lips and big eyes. They mistaked her for a Latina simply because her hair is dark and she has full lips and a body, but if you know a wide array of people, she looks European of white blood all the way. More like Greek or Italian than a Latina of indigenous blood which is what they mean when they say this. Think Salma Hayek, Jennifer Lopez, Eva Longoria
@@Abcdefghiiiiii She looks European all the way. Like she’s from Greece, Italy or Wales which she is from. I know a very very broad array of people and have travelled. She looks European. Even though Europeans can be Latinos because Latino is a culture and not and ethnicity, she looks like her original bloodline is European carried through. The dark hair full lips and busty curvy figure is probably what throws people off to thinking she isn’t white because her beauty type isn’t often celebrated in white spaces or conventionally outside of Europe. Most American think of white (aka) European as the American standard for whiteness blonde dirty blonde or red hair thinner lips and smaller frame for women with little curve to their bodies because for so long that was the celebrated look in America and for every movie tv show and magazine which inspires people to look that way in regular life ie dieting and dying their hair all blonde. Most European people do not look this way and celebrate a wide array of beauty throughout their Whiteness rather than the one aesthetic we had for so long representing what being European actually looks like. Catherine is gorgeous but if you’ve been places and seen a lot of people she looks 100% European
I remember Catherine Zeta-Jones from a fantastic UK series "The Darling Buds of May". She was just gorgeous.
I 100% disagree with anyone getting their panties in a twist because this actress, who never lied about her identity unlike HILARIA BALDWIN, through her own talent and grind, was cast in a lead role which required her to pretend she was Latino. News Alert: acting is Make Believe.
So, well done to Catherine Zeta-Jones for her success
👏👏👏👏👏ALL OF THIS💜
Lmaoooo Hilaria Baldwin
Yes! We're proud of her in the UK 🙂
I used to watch Darling buds...... in my country back in the early to mid 90s before she hit it big with Zorro.
Catherine Zeta-Jones is a legend. She’s worked extremely hard from a very young age, starting in England and advanced over to the US. She never pretended to be anybody that she’s not, she’s just the better person for the roles she’s been given, which is why they’ve been given to her. I am a natural redhead and I could be upset because Halle Bailey is now the new little mermaid in the movie instead of a real redhead. I think we all need to just take a chill pill and quit focusing on color so much unless it comes down to human rights.
As for Michael Douglas, he’s always been a perv and has made no secret of it.
Anybody can play a mermaid because mermaids are not real. Hair color doesn’t matter in this case. 🙄 😒
@@vienicestyles I believe she means specifically Ariel as she was depicted as a redhead in the Disney movie. As for myself, I don't car
Well said
The allegations came from someone in the '80's. That was before he married Catherine Zeta-Jones. They have a pre-nup. If Douglas cheats, he has to give her $1,000,000.
The creator of Zorro based the character on several real life Spanish and Mexican outlaws; Spaniards are Hispanic from Europe not Latino from Latin America. Mexicans are both. So she’s basically todays Rosalia, white but perceived as Latina by those who think we are all the same.
Since when did “Spaniards are Hispanic from Spain” become synonymous with “white”? What makes Rosalia “white” I don’t understand. Not everyone in Europe is “white” - that’s certainly painting an entire continent with one brush. And to be honest and more specific geographically, Spain is the Iberian Peninsula and shares a border with Morocco (Africa). Ethnically, a Spaniard has only been considered “white” very recently
@@Abcdefghiiiiii since forever; colonization - A Mexican myself. Genetically, majority of Mexicans are half native half white. There are very few majority native left.
@@ValleyRose21 that’s mestizos - a distinct ethnicity itself now. My husband is Chilean. But again, you mean half Spaniard half Indigenous. Spaniards traditionally aren’t “white”, this is an American way of viewing race
@@Abcdefghiiiiii if you want to understand literally all you have to do is Google “is Rosalia white” and it will tell you yes and why 😂
@@Abcdefghiiiiii it’s def not it’s own ethnicity. Absolutely no DNA test will label anyone as Mestizo. That social term was created to make us an “other”. Mexicans are mixed, we aren’t “genetically mestizo”, point blank. You need a lesson on ethnicity vs nationality vs race.
Great video. Catherine wasn’t from a humble background. Her family lived in The Mumbles in Swansea which is an affluent area. UK people will always remember her as being Mariette Larkin in The Darling Buds of May. A lot of Welsh have dark features due to Wales being invaded by Iberico (now Spain)
So that makes her part Spanish anyway lol
@@susanlloyd very, very, very distantly.
She’s playing a Latina woman in the new Netflix series “Wednesday” and she’s good. I had no idea she wasn’t Latina.
She's never claimed to be Latino. She's always been a proud Welsh. Her dark features are a mixture of her parents heritage. But she was born in Wales.
You should see her in the movie cocaine godmother she played a Columbian woman. I think she did a great job in that movie.
Morticia isn’t Latina (Spanish) she’s French.
In Wednesday she’s French! Her husband is Latin.
@@Willow-cw9te French is considered Latin
She’s gorgeous and she was perfect in Zorro sorry. There’s so much racism even within the Latin community. People throw fits when Spaniards play Mexicans and Puerto Ricans play Venezuelans it’s just absurd to me. It’s called acting. Personally I think it’s cool of someone from a different ethnicity plays another.
I agree. I’m latina I’m sick & tired of that bs.
This is how little y’all minds are because it’s not “cool” for someone to imitate a race or group of people. THAT is the exact problem with Hollywood. A HISPANIC woman could’ve played the part but WHITEWASHING is such a thing and it’s absurd. That’s like an Indian woman playing an African American woman role for a movie; a chinese man portraying a Native American. It’s ignorance and by accepting it, YALL are apart of the problem
And that is why you're a part of the problem!
I loved her in Zorro
She was charismatic and stunning 😍
And i knew that she was welsh from a long time !
She kicked butt in Chicago!
She's so beautiful! She always was proud of her Welch ancestry and never once did I hear her say she was a Latina!
I don't get what the problem is, she never claimed to be a latina or went out of her way to look the way she looks just to get that role, with enough research you'll find that a lot of the Welsh have close roots to Spain & Portugal... I think people are just shocked that a white woman looks latina, it's not uncommon for a Welsh woman to be mistaken for a latina. Even if she didn't play those roles I would've assumed she was a latina or Italian.
When movies/TV shows like Cruella, Annie, Anne Boleyn(2021), Queen Charlotte(2023) & other movies based on medieval British history have characters race swapped all the time is it not the same thing?
She looks Italian not Latina.
There is no one look in Latinidad.
It's true, genetic studies have proven that some Welsh have Spanish ancestry, possibly from the Spanish Armada. I have a friend from Wales who gets mistaken for Spanish all the time.
@@YU-bs6gb half the Italians I know are Blondes.
@@YU-bs6gb No. welsh people are indigenous, perhaps with some Moorish/Iberian in them. Wales geography protected them from a lot of invasions. Are you thinking of Ireland?
For Pete's sake, I'm 1/2 Latina and would learn another language and accent for a role in a second ❤
Where did anyone get that she is Latino? I always thought everyone knew she was Welsh!
I remember her coming onto the scene it seemed that her being Welsh was all anyone said about her. It was the first time I ever heard of Wales.
I always thought that her character in Zorro was Spanish as in colonizer descendant as opposed to being indigenous. But I don’t know the other movies she was in portraying Latin women so I can’t defend here there.
she is so beautiful!! She looks a little like Bjork with the dark hair, wide cheeks and hooded eyes, maybe she has Norse ancestry.
She looks like a lot of Welsh people I know in Wales
more like Celtic ancestry, Bjork has a very unique look, very hard to compare but both beautiful
Catherine Zeta Jones is so beautiful and absolutely fabulous! She’s a superb dancer 💕
I'm Latina, and I think the best actor or actress should get the job. Just saying.
Why no critiscim of Antonio Banderas (zorro)? He is white (as in a Spaniard, aka European).
The issue is people always associate being Latina with being a person of colour. Latinas can be & often are white (European ancestry).
True. Latinos can also be black or part-black and they are usually completely ignored.
Latino or Latina coming from Latin America.
@@lisayoung4810 exactly. It has nothing to do with race
She is Welsh which means she is a Celt.
The Welsh language is Brythonic Celtic.
But guess what? There are 6 Celtic languages and Basque and Catalan claim to be Celtic as well.
Not only that but both Basque and Catalan are in Spain AND The evidence for a one-time Celtic Catalonia is strong:
1) Way back in 1500 BC, the region was taken over by the Proto-Celtic Urnfield people who brought the rite of burning their dead and burying their ashes in an urn in their fields.
2) The Celts were mostly absorbed by the Iberian people beginning in 600 BC but traces of their influence survives
SO in fact she may be from the same people.
And I can guarantee few ppl know what I have just stated!
Should I also be offended that Meryl Streep played a Polish woman in Sophie's Choice? She did the accent and all
No because she’s a white woman acting in a suitable white role.
Excellent point. As long as the actor doesn’t make a mockery of the ethnicity and honors it, I don’t see a problem. Streep was incredible in that role. I read that she worked with a linguist to get the accent down perfectly. What do you think? Was she credible?
Alec Baldwin's wife says she's Latina. She went from Hilary to Hilaria.
She didn't fool anybody, i knew she's Welsh since 90s ....she has mentioned it time and again in many interviews if you didn't know its a fault at your part not hers ...
I always thought she was Asian. She looks like my Kira dolls when I was growing up. I didn’t know she was Welsh and never thought she was Latina. I just thought she was selected for Zoro because of her dark features. I was a kid when that movie came out though.
ASIAN? What? That is so funny.
She does look like she could be a Hapa
I always knew she was Welsh she got her break in acting playing in Darling Buds of May, which was a sucessful English TV series.
Also the name Zeta and Jones are welsh names , huge give away .
She looked like zendaya in the younger clips here, she’s a beauty 😍
I never thought she was Latina and I am also Latina and her age. She is Welsh and we have always known it. She is an actress.
Thank you for bringing this up. For us, it often feels like we are pushed to the background and ignored. ❤
I’m Latina and it’s called acting. I don’t mind her doing Latina roles.
I'm half Welsh. Many look dark with dark eyes and hair. She never pretended anything.
I am also Latina and I always knew she was Welsh. But just a little history lesson for you. Wales is made up of the Celts and the Basque, people of Northern Spain. I often see people from Wales, Scotland and Ireland with darker features and probably a lot of actual Latinos have ancestry from these areas. I know I do, because I recently found out I have Welsh ancestry and I am a Latina. It would have been nice to have had more representation, back in the day, but at least nowadays we have many Latina role models, to look up to. And anyway, it was a Hollywood problem, that they didn't cast Latina actresses, not hers.
Definitely did not know she is welsh!
I think the casting directors need to be the ones to make the effort to cast the appropriate actors for the roles. Can't knock anyone for trying to find work and make money
Catherine Zeta Jones has always been proud of her Welsh heritage. Why would anyone think she's latina?
Welsh people are genetically related to the Basque in Spain, as are the 'dark' Irish. Our ancestors came over from the Iberian peninsula at the end of the last ice age.
BTW despite what she says, she looks typically Welsh. Most of us look dark like her, though blue eyes are more common. Ioan Gruffudd or Imogen Thomas (former Miss Wales) are other examples.
Culturally we're Celts though, not Spaniards/Latino.
I was shock to learn that as well.
Catherine Zeta Jones nailed it in the Zorro movies yet I think Salma Hayek or Penelope Cruz would've been EVEN better considering the authenticity. I'd rather see Catherine's Oscar winning performance in Chicago and the critically acclaimed Side Effects! 👍🏾
Most Mexican nobles at that time had high percentages of European ancestry. It's not out of the blue.
@@blacktigerpaw1 Then tell that to her outraged critics. Still keep in mind Catherine is NOT of Mexican descent.
@@danavixen6274 That's their issue. You look at most Mexican politicians TODAY they are white as hell. The ones with greater indigenous heritage are those away from Mexico City. You can map the color line just from the way the Spaniards moved through the Americas.
I'm from England and Spanish is European... if anything it's Mexicans who are appropriating spanish... they were colonised by the Spanish and the culture in Mexico is Spanish... 😂 they're white. Not brown. I think you lot in America and Mexico need a re education because the Spanish isn't from Mexico. It's from Spain , which is in Southern Europe mate. 😂
Personally I would have loved to see Salma in this role bc she has incredible onscreen chemistry w Antonio, however, Catherine still slayed. That movie is awesome. She displayed her acting abilities on point.
I never knew about the backlash from the Zorro film. Then again I haven't seen it. Wow!
This was an interesting breakdown 💗
One of my favorite movies of hers was Entrapment.
I remember going to the movies and seeing them. Thinking how stunningly beautiful she was and held her weight very well.
Honestly, I don't know how she's stayed with Douglas for so long!
This breakdown took me for some loops.
What a good video Karine ♥️
Much love always 💐🫶 blessings 💗
She always claimed to be Welsh and never pretended in real life to be Hispanic. The Zorro movie is the only movie that she played a Hispanic part from what I know. My favorite funny movie from her is "American Sweethearts". It was hilarious! Note: Latina is different from Hispanic.
I’m Greek , but I don’t expect a GREEK actress to play the role of CLEOPATRA (who was GREEK)… 😊
I Would be HAPPY if Catherine Zeta Jones was to play the Greek Cleopatra! She LOOKS the part and would play it WELL!
I wouldn’t mind if That Israeli actress (Wonder Woman?) was to play Cleo, because she too could pass as Greek! (But the Egyptians would be up in arms about that, for some reason (J E W)) ….
I’m just confused as to WHY Jada pinkett Smith would choose a BLACK ACTRESS to play the part of Cleopatra?? Is she Trying to erase and rewrite history ?
Equally, I’d be confused if they chose a Korean actress to be Cleopatra?
Anyway, we don’t have to Literally Hire that nationality specifically, surely?
Would you be okay if a Ugandan actress was to play the part of a Nigerian Princess or would you be outraged??
One of her underrated performances was Gwen in ‘America’s Sweethearts’.
That movies underrated in general, so funny 😂
one of my favorite movies!
I've always thought Catherine Zeta Jones was one of the most beautiful actresses ever. You know back in the 90s when they made Zorro no one cared about actresses playing different ethnicities.
@@user-ei9tu8go4g watch Return of the Native, she’s so amazing in that 💗
Love her!! ❤ She's one of my favorite classic beauties
The bigger mystery here is why a WELSH person looks Latina to begin with. What’s the ethnic/genetic connection between Wales and Latin America which is the other side of the Atlantic?
It’s literally her being indigenous/ mestiza looking. That’s all. People conflate that with the “latina” look.
Latin America has varying degrees of Spanish genetics. That's the connection. The Welsh and Spaniards are both European, though the Welsh are a separate cline from the English. She just tans well.
She looks Italian, Spanish or Greek from the Mediterranean.
Many Welsh ppl have Spanish n Latin heritage due to trading connections... Irish also. You can still visit 'snugglers caves' n see that history there... so technically she will have Latin dna somewhere down the line
@@y.s7787 We needn't forget that a lot of Romans came to Great Britain when they tried to own it. Not all of them went home. Many stayed. I have had many Cuban and Puerto Rican friends and they looked very Anglo. But they were super strong in their heritage regardless of how many generations had lived in the US. Also, there are a lot of Italians from the Northern part of Italy that are blonde and blue-eyed. It's right next to Austria, Switzerland and Germany. So we can't just say all tan complexed, darker haired people are of (fill in the blank) heritage.
If we were taught in school that people of all heritages come in different complexions, hair color, eye color, etc., we wouldn't be so quick to pigeon-hole people. Same with genders and orientations. Why we have to get up in arms over people not being the way 'we' think they should is called PREJUDICE.
Looking back, there were prominent Latina roles given to Catherine. Imo, I think Latinas should have been cast. It wasn't that long ago. I remember when J.Lo was cast as Selena, there was outrage from the fans that she wasn't Chicana. In fairness, many Latinas auditioned. J.Lo, a Puerto Rican actress, was chosen based on talent, by Selena's dad, the producer. The 1 thing he insisted on was that Selena's voice be used, not J.Lo's. Catherine's husband, Michael Douglas, boosted her career. Moving forward, more Latinas should audition for all types of roles. Take a chapter from J.Lo's and Whoopi's playbook. Thanks, Karine, for your insightful portrait of Catherine Zeta Jones. ❤❤
It’s called acting
Thank you! Lol
She looks like Zendaya. So beautiful
💖 great vid!
I’ve always known she’s a welsh actress. People are people humans are humans everyone stop being so sensitive and trying to Divide people into races we are all one race the human race.
Hmmm , it was always mentioned that she was welsh in the late 90s . Everywhere.she was ibtrodu ed as welsh actress, Catherine Zeta Jones ....... Welcome to the party! 🎉
How did she fool anyone that she is latina when her surname jones is welsh ? Catherine always talks about wales most of the time in interviews
Jones is not a Welsh surname by any stretch it is just commonplace in Wales thanks to English colonization.
🩷 you’re the 🐐 on these I love it keep going!
Great video Karine! I was watching KA mental gems and you have such long bouncy hair could you do a vlog on your hair care routine I'd love some tips💚💚💚💚.
That's What Latinas And BiRacials Do With WOC Everyday 😂
It's Not Offensive 🤷🏽♀️
I swear they diagnosed everybody with bipolar disorder if you are Moody in anyway you're bipolar😅😅😢😢😅😅😊
13:33 She’s not the problem but a symptom of a larger problem. Also, why can’t she be given British or American roles? She doesn’t have to be seen as exotic.
Also, not every Latina is white or white-adjacent. It completely negates non-white Latiné people.
Very true
I remember her saying “I’m Welsh!” on some late night show when I was little. I actually could relate to her because I’m pale with dark hair and had always been told my grandma was Welsh.
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Being British and growing up watching The Darling Buds of May [EDIT], CZJ's nationality was a given. I do think that the US racialise looks more than anywhere else. In the UK a few Brits have swarthy looks such as Cheryl Cole. It is not that uncommon.
I'm Mexican and Sean Connery looked like he could have been by dad's brother or cousin
She has always been quite stunning and talented and certainly deserved the Oscar. That said, there were other "incidents" surrounding her and M.D. Mike made a regrettable comment to the press stating he believed he got throat cancer because of him "servicing" his wife. When that happened she left M.D. and returned to Wales until he traveled there and pleaded for her to return. Also, the unstable woman who broke into their home and proceeded to harrass Catherine which resulted in a law suit.
😮 goodness I never knew that!
My mum, in her 80,a watched a UK show she was regularly in, can't recall the name but popular out here 🇦🇺
@@Susan-dk3utDarling Buds of May!
@@bmb1980 thank you 👍
You make really valid points about appropriation and representation. I'm half Cherokee, and it's so infuriating how many non indigenous actors are chosen to portray roles of Native Americans in films.
Maybe indigenous actors aren´t really good actors.
@@carinamartin1677 that's a very ignorant statement. You're saying that a person's acting skills are based on his/her ethnicity?
@@lisayoung4810 The Hollywood producers will hire the best actor for the role. If Catherine Zeta Jones is the better actress for that role, then I don’t see a problem with it ?? She raked in the MULLA did she not??
Hiring employees just to tick the Diversity box is DEGRADING to those employees because you are NOT hiring them for their skills and talent. You are essentially Pity hiring them …. It’s a type of Forced by the government hire….
Which employer is going to respect an employee that they were forced to hire just to please the Woke Diversity Mob??
@@morticiagomez6166 your statement is also ignorant as well as discriminatory. We don't live in an ideal world & Hollyweird as well as other nations that have an entertainment "industry" do discriminate. I think Zeta-Jones is a great actress, & it does help that she has an ethnic &/or indigenous look which is why she's able to audition or be considered for many roles besides roles for a white (Anglo Saxon) woman.
Secondly, your argument is what hollyweird or the industry used & still uses to keep out non-white actors. Hollyweird is white owned and has & had the money to choose their racial group that would benefit the most. That's why for roles that called for actors that were "extras," the industry hired white actors who were "madeup" to look and impersonate non-whites. And for major roles, the industry hired primarily prominent or well known white actors to impersonate with makeup for non-white roles, ie. Angelina Jolie portraying Daniel Pearl's widow, who is biracial & considered to be black. And meanwhile, there are many good and great biracial/black actresses, who could have done as a good if not better job portraying, Mrs. Pearl. Remember, there used to be the infamous "minstrel shows" in the US. Why do you think they were considered discriminatory & outlawed? In the past, there were also many actors of Spanish descent, Hispanic &/or Mexican background who had to change their names to English or Western European sounding names. They also couldn't reveal their Spanish or Hispanic heritage for fear of being marginalized for only extra or subservient roles, ie. Rita Hayworth
@@lisayoung4810 What is the Majority of the population in The USA please?
What is the ratio between black and white in the USA ?
What is the ratio between Latino and white in the USA ?
WHO owns USA ?
Let me word it differently, WHO CREATED USA ? Blacks? Latinos or Whites?
Would there be a USA without the whites?
Would there be a Hollywood without the whites?
Tell me, have you heard of BOLLYWOOD? It’s in INDIA. What’s the DIVERSITY representation in India? I don’t see any BLACK actors in India, do you? I don’t see any WHITE actors there either? How about Chinese?
What about NOLLYWOOD ?? That’s in NIGERIA . When I see A NOLLYWOOD movie, do I see DIVERSITY? Nope. I only see BLACK FACES.
I see a HECK OF A Lot Of BLACK AND BROWN faces in American series/TVS/movies/Netflix /etc
In fact, for such a SMALL POPULATION, BLACK Americans are OVER-Represented in the USA media.
Black people have an ENTIRE CONTINENT TO Dominate - it’s called AFRICA.
Ever been to Africa?
Before you uploaded, I wanted you to upload a video about Catherine Zeta Jones
She wasn't playing a 'person of colour' though. She was playing a Spanish colonizer, Spanish people are white. I'm so confused by American obsession with skin colour.
Exactly!
Agree but don't be confused by Americans and their obsession with this stuff they have a country built on gen*cide & segregation, it should come as no surprise why they are like this. Just wish they realised there is a world outside of the US, it's not all about them and their crazy, warped perspective🥱
I don't remember Catherine pretending she's Latina.
Shes Greek descent raised in Wales.
Now she is Greek? She is named after her grandmother, Zeta, a Greek name, but her grandmother was not of Greek descent.
CZJ always claimed to be a Welsh woman. Her looks are astounding and she can act, sing and dance - hence why she was cast in a big movie
I didn’t mind her being in Zorro but by the time she played Griselda Blanco, which was recently I thought someone else should of played that role.
I remember 20-25 years ago when she was very popular, she was and is breathtakingly beautiful. Her unique blessing and curse is her ethnically ambiguous appearance.
I feel that her response to criticism was perfect and enough, she cannot herself fix Hollywood casting - she desired to work and took what she could.
I am also pleased that more Latina actresses are represented today as well as that there is room for everyone from all ethnicities.
Both these things can be true, as well as that intolerable cruelty is a great, underrated film.
Im British so I have always known she is Welsh...also her Welsh accent is STRONG, there is no fooling anyone. I thought she could have been European Spanish especially as some Welsh people went to Spain to support freedom fighters in their civil war in the 1930s and I thought she may have had a sleeper gene...however even if she was European Spanish, there would still be an issue of appropriation.
Do you remember her in that wonderful series " The Darling Buds of May " ?
A sleeper gene? She looks like her parents and her parents are not unusual looking among Welsh people.
So …. When Latino men play Italian roles it’s all good but as soon European person plays Latin role it’s a problem . 😂😂😂😂 please
Excuse me, I am Costa Rican, and I have no problem with her playing a Spanish woman... That's what acting is all about.
I certainly understand about whitewashing (like not a single Jew has portrayed Christ....). However, Hispanics are a different matter entirely. It's not so much race as there are white Latinas (Eva Longoria) and Afro Latinas (Zoe Zaldana). Its more about ethnicity and that's where things get dicey. I remember the big uproar about Puerto Rican Jennifer Lopez portraying Mexican Selena. So, I don't have a problem with Catherine Zeta Jones because there are white Latinas who play characters other than Latina all the time. Its just that we don't know it.
Right! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Eva Longoria is light brown skinned and has native roots. Do you need to see an eye examiner?
My family & I have welsh heritage & same features. We are not Latina either
I never thought or heard her say she was neither was Anthony Hopkins who played her father
Zoe Saldana isn't black; and yet, she played Nina Simone -- using prosthetics and darkening her skin for a closer resemblance. Thank goodness black people rebelled and didn't support the film. Nina was one of our iconic musicians and civil activist. I can name many other Hispanics who have played roles of characters who were not Hispanics. Hispanics can't have their cake and eat it too. If you don't want other races to play Hispanic roles, then you can't play character roles of other races.
DAMN. I was just about to correct you.... but you're right. I always thought she was half black. Wow
She is black. Has a Spanish surname, but you can be black, white, Chinese and still be Latino.
@@Itzpapalotl. Puerta Rican and Dominican -- not black.
😮 nina simone voice of an angel who ever thought of her in that role
@@gettheedgenow7079 You can be Puerto Rican or Dominican and STILL be Black though. Just like in any Latin American country. Zoe Saldana isn’t white.