Geetsly's my solution to save lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find the right inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Corellia, Naboo, Lothal or any other type of agricultural world.
My idea would be a top secret operation without the knowledge of Jedi order or Republic government. I would need several essential things to make this plan a success. Money, transport ships, sustenance, metal, medical supplies, blaster guns, teaching them how to surivive/defend themseles, technology and I need a select group a trustworthy people to spread the word out to those who wish to leave the lower levels of Coruscant forever and start their new lives in a habitable world.
Imagine if Grievous had been able to smuggle in some commando droids and weapons to the lower levels to train and organize the people. That combined with his assault, if he was able to keep it hidden from Dooku and Sidious, would have given them a massive advantage and possibly won the war right there.
@@501ststormtrooper9 I mean an organized one to combine with the assault, split the Republic forces up even more and possibly either A get a Separtist victory, though Sidious would usurp the power vacuum, or B get some jedi to see their hypocrisy about being "defenders of the weak" while putting down an uprising of oppressed people making more leave the order which would make Order 66 go with less damage to the Empire's forces. I doubt Sidious would want that though because then he would have to use resources to put down the uprising so better to keep them angry and out of sight but unorganized. If Sidious wasn't playing both sides it would be a good strategy though, both for propaganda and that the Clones weren't as effective against organics because they were more flexible then the droids
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 I don't think it would have been impossible, all the crime down there could pay off some of the crime lords and if they focused on a common enemy instead of fighting amongst themselves even for just a bit would be enough to cause distractions and either force them to send more soldiers that way to keep down the uprisings or would at least have made some issues that they would have had to take care off costing resources. They don't even have to go against most of the clones they could hit the Senate and take hostages for collateral. The Senate Guard proved they were fairly useless
Seeing as he was able to merge 3-5 separate droid armies, all from different manufacturers with different rank structures into the CIS Droid Army successfully, him pulling off something like that would’ve definitely been possible and absolutely devastating.
Considering that the Jedi Temple was located on the same planet, but not once have the Jedi help the people of the lower levels. The Jedi were protectors of the Republic and the Citizen of the lower levels were law bidding citizens they had hope the Jedi can help in their situation, but instead they were more focused on the surface of the planet were corrupted Senate used the Jedi on the whims. If anyone hated the Jedi more than the Sith than it was the Underworld citizen, they knew the stories of the Jedi how they saved outer rim from enslavement, but allowed the systematic enslavement from the surface.
There is only ten thousand Jedi during the time of clone wars. So I doubt whether it's before or after the war. The Jedi order couldn't handle taking down the slums in lower levels of Coruscant while putting focus on the issue of the Outer Rim worlds. They couldn't even defeat Hutt space and the corrupted planet of Nar shaddaa during the Old Republic.
My solution to save the lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find a good inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Corellia, Naboo, Lothal or any other type of agricultural world.
@@kingnamor777 All of this. To help people understand how few Jedi there were in comparison to the Galaxy, imagining only having one Jedi here on Earth. Sure they could do a lot of good but they can't fix everything. By numbers alone it's unreasonable to think the Jedi can do it all. Which is part of Sidious's plot on how he uses the galaxies expectations of the Jedi to twist public opinion to the point that the Jedi committing a coup and that Order 66 was necessary seem reasonable. The fact that it even seems to work some of us (the audience) who should see beyond this shows you how good he was.
It would have never gotten canned had the devs just chosen a direction they wanted and stuck with it, but they couldn't do that. Disney basically put the project out of its misery when they got a hold of it
Now the EA doesn't own LucasArts anymore, Disney Interactive could recommission the project. They might tone down the tone for a T rating, sure, but I'm certain that they'll at least consider bringing back the game for at least Canon.
I was so glad to see Ahsoka in the newest episode, and it was appropriate, for all reasons mentioned or not, that she kept her Jedi powers and past a secret ("My older brother taught me." lol. Awesome that Ahsoka described Anakin in that way.) As well, this was an interesting video because of the explanations of how garbage and air was regulated for the planet's survivability. However, it would've been a bit more complete if the video also explained how water was regulated/provided for the planet's survivability.
Sky Den this wasnt a video on the lower levels of coroscuant it was a video on why the lower levels hated the jedi. So the topic of how they obtained water would be simply irrelevant. Even if he was to include it, it would be overkill and make the video unnecessarily longer.
@@bigmacshake5220 The video points out how excessive garbage and low quality/recycled air contribute to the poor quality of life in the lower systems, although these issues are not indicated as why the lower levels hated the Jedi. The Jedi were hated because the lower levels felt ignored by the Jedi. The issues of the air and garbage were pointed out to express why it's difficult enough to live at the lower levels without being ignored. There's likely a lot more issues that could be brought up, such as food, crime, de-valuation of credits, death sticks, etc. However, detailing all these things would likely make the video longer than necessary. I only suggested that the water system be given certain consideration because of how vital water is to survival, probably second only to air.
Good video. Also, the lowest livable level was mentioned somewhere to be Level 5, which had a canteen for those wanting keep THE lowest profile. And Leia apparently once got to visit the natural surface underground once. Also there was some natural surface left, used by some species-refufees, which where relocated elsewhere during the reign of the Empire.
There is only ten thousand Jedi during the time of clone wars. So I doubt whether it's before or after the war. The Jedi order couldn't handle taking down the slums in lower levels of Coruscant while putting some focus on the issues of the Outer Rim worlds. They couldn't even defeat Hutt space and the corrupted planet of Nar shaddaa during the Old Republic.
imagine ur born in the lower levels during a republic conflict only to find that coruscant is under attack and oxygen is no longer available to level bc of building damage/rationing for other levels that “need oxygen” :-/ whole new dynamic
The last 4 episodes of this season is going to be insane!!! Anakin and Ahsoka reunite Revenge of the Sith crossover Darth Maul V. Ahsoka Then the grand finale: Order 66
Normal people read the title as: Why the lower levels of Coruscant HATED the Jedi My dumbass read the title as: Why the lower levels of Coruscant HATED the Jews
Paul Monico Well if the stereotype is true: one could argue that if Jews existed in Star Wars, they’d often be among the rich and well off on the surface level of Coruscant, so you’d be right either way. Space wizards (Jedi), most Senators, space Jews (wealthy surface dwellers) and probably even the the senate himself, Palpatine.
@Fire Nation Soldier- Thank you for being a poster boy for why kids need to stay in school. Be careful kids If you drop out, you might wind up being so poorly educated that you go on the web and spout ignorant propaganda like this clown.
Modustollens1 Since it’s just a common stereotype meme, I don’t see the issue with just playing along and responding to OP’s comment. Judging I have the same amount of likes as you, some people like the comparison, others don’t. Geez, why is everyone so sensitive?
i always thought it odd that palpatine used the limerge power in the works as his hideout because it was on the surface. coruscant underworld was able to provide perfect places for the sith hideouts.
fun fact: the Jedi Temple on Coruscant was holds a Sith shrine. It's underneath the Jedi Temple. So don't be too surprised that Coruscant holds a deep connection to the dark side of the force.
@@kingnamor777 thats wrong - it was never sith temple. all we know is that there was some type of sith shrine somewhere under the place where jedi would build their temple. and supposedly sidious used that against them.
@@schnebot Yeah that was talking about the Sith shrine underneath the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Although I thought their was a temple that hold the Sith shrine within it. But thanks for correcting me.
Well, there might be a small disparities between the top and the bottom. If a level is more or less 3 meters, that means that the 5000th level is 15kms above the surface. And gravity isn't much different at 15kms. But the mass of all that structure might have increased the mass of the planet, and thus the gravity a bit, that's a certainty.
I’d say so, if all the buildings are made from the planets own resources then it wouldn’t have that large of an effect. But assuming it’s resources are from other planets then it’s 100% more weighted down from all the construction
@@geetslys I doubt there's enough iron on an earth like planet to build such a maze of fifteen kilometers high and covering all the planet. Or maybe there was some mars-like planet in the Coruscanti system and they just melt it down to built the city.
@@geetslys If you asked me, I don't think the lower levels of Coruscant shouldn't have been created. Because the place literally like living in Nar shaddaa 2.0
Man I would love to explore the planets of Star Wars like I was in Creative Mode in Minecraft and just explore, especially the Coruscant underworld and the lowest levels seeing what kind of history laid there.
The animation of recent episodes is absolutely beautiful, but does anyone else feel like the sound design is empty and the score is sometimes completely off? It has some cartoony beats here and there that TCW never really had before.
And the world-building music is rather lacking too. I only heard one piece of music at the food court scene, and it was just bland, almost like an even worse type of muzak.
ehm the season 1 of clone wars and even some of the filler episodes in clone wars seasons have this quality too. so dont know why people are bothered by it
@@joshuafogg6600 I think they combined old audio with new recordings for the newest episode. It has an impersonal, patched-up feel that makes character interactions feel awkward (like the voice actors weren't actually interacting). I don't know what's wrong with the score, maybe they got cheaper sound designers.
Pictures supposedly showing the lower levels of Coruscant are always way, way too open. It's always an impressive, dimly-lit vista of run-down buildings, but that's not what it would look like. it'd look more like Kowloon Walled City.
Honestly it just gives me closure knowing ahsoka is still alive in the sequel trilogy in my opinion the best charcter in the trilogy even tho we have not seen her it's still confirmed so I'm fine with that
yeah the difference is like imagine being homeless in US vs being homeless in Russia. The problem is that Coruscant somehow represents democracy-republic and fails on it's own planet while the Nar Shaddaa clearly has a totalitarian regime. I just started thinking that most Star Wars planets-systems has some connection with the reality we live in.
Something tells me that the Jedi who tried to help the underworld were the Sentinels but there not Canon to Disney (but to me they are) if you look into them they were known to help the weak living in slums like Coruscant when Order 66 was issued they suffered the least number of casualties that's mainly because they only went to temples to report in etc there casualties may have been Sentinels reporting in when the Clones attacked but they were ruthlessly hunted down and even given up by the very people they protected but not all people turned them in. Out of all the Jedi I respect the Sentinels the most instead of saying they protected the weak like the Guardians and Consulars did the Sentinels actually did that even after Order 66 they became vigilantes to keep helping the weak while surviving Guardians and Consulars just hid
This video is actually has great content and summarization. You developed a strong thesis and conclusion. Loved it! Much better than Star Wars theory works as of lately! Keep them coming!
The planet reminds me of Taris, in a way, but less severe as far as laws and beliefs of the local authorities go. By the time of the Clone Wars, I suspect Taris was nothing but a pile of ruins from the civil war that took place four thousand years ago or barely habitable for the average humanoid species, especially if someone lived in the lower level and Under City.
I think that Disney could spin-off Star Wars: Clone Wars into a Coruscant: 1313 show. You could have the main character be an Underworld Guard (or whatever they're called), a Jedi hiding from Order 66, or even just a Robin Hood-type character. There are so many possibilities that Disney will probably ignore them in favor of pushing a Social Justice narrative.
I for one am a huge ahsoko fan and would love to see a series based on her especially after she and sabine went looking for ezra. One question, that wasn't brought up... What level were Mission Vao and Zaalbar on in KOTOR? Its been awhile since I played it, but I was always under the impression they lived at the lowest depths...
Alderaan also had it's dark side. While they have a 'princess' it isn't actually a monarchy. It's ruled by roughly 100 noble families who every decade elect their most powerful and influential family to be the royals. To help preserve the natural beauty of Alderaan wars are fiercely surpressed and forbidden. But that caused the nobles to resort to backstabbing and assignation to eliminate their rivals. Alderani nobles were some of the most dublisidous, ruthless and calculating people in the galaxy. Capable of murdering an entire family and all their servants while keeping their hands absolutely clean. Capturing children and torturing them to force concessions was a routine practice as was framing each other for starting wars.
The undercity was almost naar shadaa by the end of the war with the vong but it got even worse when abeloth was active, the majority of the underworld became mustafar after the Jedi started booting abeloth and the lost tribe off coroscant
“They reused the same air so many times it might aswell be artificial “ We reuse the same air and we call it real air it’s no different just happens in an unnatural way
Most likely not. The empire was voted into power by the corrupt republic; the empire basically doubled down on the corruption, though made it more centralized to the emperor. Those who opposed the republic like the separatists were treated as traitors and were blamed for the war; all Papatine really did was convince the galaxy to lump the Jedi in with the separatists. Those people living in the lower level would have largely seen no changes for their lives under the empire.
@@jasonskeans3327 I agree. I bet they suffered twice as much by the Sith lord Palpatine and Vader. Since they both had to get rid of loose ends down the surface of the slums and lower levels of Coruscant.
In my video game design class we had a video chat with a guy who said his friend worked on a Star Wars game that was canceled by Disney. I think he was referring to 1313. Small world.
How is it possible strikes at the surface hit the lower levels the hardest? Dont the upper buildings protect the lower ones? After all if you throw a rock at a turtle (wich I hope no one does), it will probably hit the shell and not the inner flesh.
Coruscant somehow remembers me of the dark reality of Earth. We have the fortune to have grown in families that could feed us, educate us and basically develop with luxuries (that's the reason of why we are here in TH-cam, is not that is a mega premium service, of course not, but for using it you need to have access to internet, therefore a house or mobile data plan and both things need money to be adquired. There is people that even cannot afford a single piece of food in the entire day, so what makes us expect they can afford Wi-Fi?) , but what about those who weren't so fortunate?. Depending from country to country, social economical differences may be more accentuated or not. I can tell from my country (Colombia) that social inequality is really a mess, not a mess that can be concealed at least to make it the less evident as possibly. I'm not going to say that we live in slums all the time, of course not, but, sometimes I believe our society is ruled more a la feudalism than a la capitalism. I have the same feelings towards Coruscant. Now, with the topic of the reputation of the Jedi......being ''protectors of peace'' is a very hard job, considering you have to select your position in events carefully, and it doesn't matter what you do, you can't please everyone. You can just make sure to please the most possible quantity as you can.
Given all the resources coming to the planet along with the untold amount of lives living on the planet I’d like to see how it was regulating their water and food to the lower levels. I can see police holding several ration stations where it was “safe” to collect the rations they would need to survive but if you went to crime ridden levels then you would have to trade your credits to the gangs who could jump up the price at any moment if need be. It’s also possible the water coming from the upper levels may be tainted through filtration based on the age of each level flowing down
I kinda-sorta knew this (the Justicars from SWTOR), but didn't at the same time. It makes sense as the Jedi are annoying and unlikable and fake saviors.
They hate jedi, offering them their precious death sticks that they just ignore. But they love anakin for some reason. He aint even as handsome looking as Obi, wich is a clear edit error. The girls and Jar Jar where looking at Obi, not Anakin at that hunting scene IN THE LOWER LEVELS (althou we know it can get deeper thou only once we where at this place : with panaka trying to escort amidala to the senat)(i still mourn the canceling of SW 1313...)
I’d love to see a run off show that has the same animation of the clone wars but it’s placed before episode one and it’s about corrosant underground world. 🙌💎
5,127 levels above the natural ground of the planet? How much larger had the planet become? How had that affected planetary density? So many questions are raised and I need answers!!
maybe some one can explain it to me but how did the under world suffer the most from bombardment when their is literally kilometers of durasteel and meat shields between the top and the lower sections
My solution to save lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find the right inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Naboo any other type of agricultural world.
My idea would be a top secret operation without the knowledge of Jedi order or Republic government. Would need seven essential things to make this plan a success. Money, transport ships, sustenance, metal, medical supplies, technology and I need a select group a trustworthy people to spread the word out to those who wish to leave the lower levels of Coruscant forever and start their new lives in a habitable world.
@@michaelhowze8198 Then that's entirely their own choice. Plus they're multiple ways to manipulate or convince people to go through with my plan. If Palpatine can convince the Trade Federation, Count Dooku and so many other to join him under his mindset and authority. Then I could do the same thing. Whether it's after the "Attack of the clones" Star Wars movie or a different era in the Star Wars Galactic history. I can convince others through action and words.
snazzyusername 101 meh, star wars the resistance series didn’t really produce anything great & wasn’t really that good, & it never had the appearance of even a single lightsaber
Has to be one of more interesting and important episodes. Accepting the consequences of your own actions and people who suffered under those decisions.
It doesn‘t make any sence that the lower levels would suffer from attacks or crashing ships at the SURFACE. The further you go down the more you should be protected of of boms, crashing star ships, etc.
I liked this, not because I have seen and enjoyed this (I haven't) but because I very much appreciated the spoilers warning - thank you :) I shall return once I've fully enjoyed the entire series
Fun fact: Jedi order have a massive vault full of treasures, old republic Jedi armors, relics, gold, jewelry, gems and credits that they can use to fund their operation missions and so much more. Me: Yet they never thought about using their wealth to help the poor and unfortunate!? They have large amount of strong and weak kyber crystals. That they could sell to companies or businesses. Then use the money so they can help the lower class citizens of Coruscant and assist people in the Mid Rim, Inner Rim, Outer Rim Territories.
Lucasfilm should resurrect Lucasarts and just license out the IPs to studios for specific games, EA/Activision for fps, and I would love to see a developer like CD Projekt RED for an open world Star Wars game.
Innovation is okay. But it shouldn't go too far, where the lower class people are living under dirt, rocks or underground city with less air and oxygen.
This is much like Hive cities from warhammer 40k and many thing don't make sense. If I live on the top floor of a skyscraper, what kind of engineering do I have that 10 floors collapsing 200 floors beneath me does not affect the safety of my luxury flat? If turbolasers or ships are falling from the sky, won't they have the greatest impact on the upper levels? The city is too big to provide centralized government services to many lower parts? Have you considered the capacity of the free market which is almost always more efficent at providing goods and services than the government? If the city is 100,000 times bigger than the largest city on Earth, it would hardly be shocking to say that there's a slum 10,000 times bigger than the biggest slum on earth, and that would be large enough to have any number of ghetto crime lord stories you wanted but I suspect there were many undercity parts that are more or less self-governing which were very nice. Also, have you considered that sunlight might not be a universal desire and there could be many species that prefer to live underground? Overall on a planet with over 100 times the population of earth, there would be far too many districts with unique subcultures to many any broad statements that applied to everyone. So far as luxury, have you seen the private chambers of individual jedi?
So is Level 1 the uppermost or lower-est level? Tanning salons and beds for personal use -> BIG business opportunities. I bet it’s considered practically a utility rather than a luxury. You make a good point about the conflict happening due to the actions of the elite and the middle class and below suffering the most. But - even if ALL the elites and the ENTIRE ‘upper crust’ were completely wiped out, the middle class and below would STILL suffer the most.
@@scorpian2722 yeah I tried that I can't find it in the game store(as in the google play store for androids) so I don't know where to get it that is the real thing
1313 is dead but some fan was gonna make it was that you or another fan channel i cant remember please tell me there is still hope last i heard was in 2018 god i hope it is still being made.
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@Geetsly's I may have a solution to Coruscant lower-levels problems if you want to hear that is?
Geetsly's can you make your Roblox game or make another game for mobile please
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Geetsly's my solution to save lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find the right inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Corellia, Naboo, Lothal or any other type of agricultural world.
My idea would be a top secret operation without the knowledge of Jedi order or Republic government. I would need several essential things to make this plan a success. Money, transport ships, sustenance, metal, medical supplies, blaster guns, teaching them how to surivive/defend themseles, technology and I need a select group a trustworthy people to spread the word out to those who wish to leave the lower levels of Coruscant forever and start their new lives in a habitable world.
Imagine if Grievous had been able to smuggle in some commando droids and weapons to the lower levels to train and organize the people. That combined with his assault, if he was able to keep it hidden from Dooku and Sidious, would have given them a massive advantage and possibly won the war right there.
I’d imagine that could have happened at one point.
@@501ststormtrooper9 I mean an organized one to combine with the assault, split the Republic forces up even more and possibly either A get a Separtist victory, though Sidious would usurp the power vacuum, or B get some jedi to see their hypocrisy about being "defenders of the weak" while putting down an uprising of oppressed people making more leave the order which would make Order 66 go with less damage to the Empire's forces. I doubt Sidious would want that though because then he would have to use resources to put down the uprising so better to keep them angry and out of sight but unorganized. If Sidious wasn't playing both sides it would be a good strategy though, both for propaganda and that the Clones weren't as effective against organics because they were more flexible then the droids
organic commandos would have been better than droids but that would have made an awesome clone wars arc.
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 I don't think it would have been impossible, all the crime down there could pay off some of the crime lords and if they focused on a common enemy instead of fighting amongst themselves even for just a bit would be enough to cause distractions and either force them to send more soldiers that way to keep down the uprisings or would at least have made some issues that they would have had to take care off costing resources. They don't even have to go against most of the clones they could hit the Senate and take hostages for collateral. The Senate Guard proved they were fairly useless
Seeing as he was able to merge 3-5 separate droid armies, all from different manufacturers with different rank structures into the CIS Droid Army successfully, him pulling off something like that would’ve definitely been possible and absolutely devastating.
Considering that the Jedi Temple was located on the same planet, but not once have the Jedi help the people of the lower levels. The Jedi were protectors of the Republic and the Citizen of the lower levels were law bidding citizens they had hope the Jedi can help in their situation, but instead they were more focused on the surface of the planet were corrupted Senate used the Jedi on the whims. If anyone hated the Jedi more than the Sith than it was the Underworld citizen, they knew the stories of the Jedi how they saved outer rim from enslavement, but allowed the systematic enslavement from the surface.
hm almost like real life?
Damn. Yep.
There is only ten thousand Jedi during the time of clone wars. So I doubt whether it's before or after the war. The Jedi order couldn't handle taking down the slums in lower levels of Coruscant while putting focus on the issue of the Outer Rim worlds. They couldn't even defeat Hutt space and the corrupted planet of Nar shaddaa during the Old Republic.
My solution to save the lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find a good inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Corellia, Naboo, Lothal or any other type of agricultural world.
@@kingnamor777 All of this. To help people understand how few Jedi there were in comparison to the Galaxy, imagining only having one Jedi here on Earth. Sure they could do a lot of good but they can't fix everything. By numbers alone it's unreasonable to think the Jedi can do it all. Which is part of Sidious's plot on how he uses the galaxies expectations of the Jedi to twist public opinion to the point that the Jedi committing a coup and that Order 66 was necessary seem reasonable. The fact that it even seems to work some of us (the audience) who should see beyond this shows you how good he was.
I love to see the life of the citizens of the 1313 and its gorgeous dark graphics it's basically the slums of coruscant
Sadly both a game and tv show about 1313 were cancelled.
@@geetslys imagine a jedi: fallen order set in corusant 1313 where a padawan hides in the underworld.
Coruscant: "THE EXACT CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE! give or take 50 feet"
This comment is severely underrated. Love the reference, and now i gotta go back and experience that again.
Glad to see 1313, I wish the game never got canned
Why is 1313 the only slum level we get to see?
It would have never gotten canned had the devs just chosen a direction they wanted and stuck with it, but they couldn't do that. Disney basically put the project out of its misery when they got a hold of it
@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 no idea, makes no sense
Now the EA doesn't own LucasArts anymore, Disney Interactive could recommission the project. They might tone down the tone for a T rating, sure, but I'm certain that they'll at least consider bringing back the game for at least Canon.
I was so glad to see Ahsoka in the newest episode, and it was appropriate, for all reasons mentioned or not, that she kept her Jedi powers and past a secret ("My older brother taught me." lol. Awesome that Ahsoka described Anakin in that way.) As well, this was an interesting video because of the explanations of how garbage and air was regulated for the planet's survivability. However, it would've been a bit more complete if the video also explained how water was regulated/provided for the planet's survivability.
Sky Den this wasnt a video on the lower levels of coroscuant it was a video on why the lower levels hated the jedi. So the topic of how they obtained water would be simply irrelevant. Even if he was to include it, it would be overkill and make the video unnecessarily longer.
@@bigmacshake5220 The video points out how excessive garbage and low quality/recycled air contribute to the poor quality of life in the lower systems, although these issues are not indicated as why the lower levels hated the Jedi. The Jedi were hated because the lower levels felt ignored by the Jedi. The issues of the air and garbage were pointed out to express why it's difficult enough to live at the lower levels without being ignored. There's likely a lot more issues that could be brought up, such as food, crime, de-valuation of credits, death sticks, etc. However, detailing all these things would likely make the video longer than necessary. I only suggested that the water system be given certain consideration because of how vital water is to survival, probably second only to air.
yea i've wondered about that air thing long time
I love and always was interested in this side of Star Wars
Good video. Also, the lowest livable level was mentioned somewhere to be Level 5, which had a canteen for those wanting keep THE lowest profile. And Leia apparently once got to visit the natural surface underground once. Also there was some natural surface left, used by some species-refufees, which where relocated elsewhere during the reign of the Empire.
There is only ten thousand Jedi during the time of clone wars. So I doubt whether it's before or after the war. The Jedi order couldn't handle taking down the slums in lower levels of Coruscant while putting some focus on the issues of the Outer Rim worlds. They couldn't even defeat Hutt space and the corrupted planet of Nar shaddaa during the Old Republic.
One million of Jedi would not be enouth to clean this shithole
I’m gonna change my rapper name to “trash moon” 😂
imagine ur born in the lower levels during a republic conflict only to find that coruscant is under attack and oxygen is no longer available to level bc of building damage/rationing for other levels that “need oxygen” :-/ whole new dynamic
I'd assume that since that is a very real threat, people would want to have oxygen mask (Or any equivalent.) on them just in case.
In my opinion the lower levels should've never been created. Because it literally hell below the surface. No joke.
assuming u didnt spend ur last credits on some death sticks :))
i mean u gotta have the foundations for the ever rising progress of man and his buildings no matter how cruel and dark they are.
@@caelanbentley9526 What do you think of my opinion? You know the comment I left?
The last 4 episodes of this season is going to be insane!!!
Anakin and Ahsoka reunite
Revenge of the Sith crossover
Darth Maul V. Ahsoka
Then the grand finale: Order 66
Normal people read the title as: Why the lower levels of Coruscant HATED the Jedi
My dumbass read the title as: Why the lower levels of Coruscant HATED the Jews
Paul Monico
Well if the stereotype is true: one could argue that if Jews existed in Star Wars, they’d often be among the rich and well off on the surface level of Coruscant, so you’d be right either way.
Space wizards (Jedi), most Senators, space Jews (wealthy surface dwellers) and probably even the the senate himself, Palpatine.
@Fire Nation Soldier- Thank you for being a poster boy for why kids need to stay in school. Be careful kids If you drop out, you might wind up being so poorly educated that you go on the web and spout ignorant propaganda like this clown.
Darth Gonk - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Darth Gonk
Again, only if the stereotype is true. It’s a running Gag and meme, so I incorporated here by responding to OP’s comment.
Modustollens1
Since it’s just a common stereotype meme, I don’t see the issue with just playing along and responding to OP’s comment.
Judging I have the same amount of likes as you, some people like the comparison, others don’t.
Geez, why is everyone so sensitive?
i always thought it odd that palpatine used the limerge power in the works as his hideout because it was on the surface. coruscant underworld was able to provide perfect places for the sith hideouts.
Probably it was a bit too risky for even him.
fun fact: the Jedi Temple on Coruscant was holds a Sith shrine. It's underneath the Jedi Temple. So don't be too surprised that Coruscant holds a deep connection to the dark side of the force.
@@kingnamor777 thats wrong - it was never sith temple. all we know is that there was some type of sith shrine somewhere under the place where jedi would build their temple. and supposedly sidious used that against them.
@@schnebot Yeah that was talking about the Sith shrine underneath the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Although I thought their was a temple that hold the Sith shrine within it. But thanks for correcting me.
Do you think it possible that the coruscant gravity has been altered because of all the construction
Well, there might be a small disparities between the top and the bottom. If a level is more or less 3 meters, that means that the 5000th level is 15kms above the surface. And gravity isn't much different at 15kms. But the mass of all that structure might have increased the mass of the planet, and thus the gravity a bit, that's a certainty.
I’d say so, if all the buildings are made from the planets own resources then it wouldn’t have that large of an effect. But assuming it’s resources are from other planets then it’s 100% more weighted down from all the construction
this sort of well-thought world building is why I love Star Wars ( Clone Wars era )
@@geetslys I doubt there's enough iron on an earth like planet to build such a maze of fifteen kilometers high and covering all the planet. Or maybe there was some mars-like planet in the Coruscanti system and they just melt it down to built the city.
@@geetslys If you asked me, I don't think the lower levels of Coruscant shouldn't have been created. Because the place literally like living in Nar shaddaa 2.0
Man I would love to explore the planets of Star Wars like I was in Creative Mode in Minecraft and just explore, especially the Coruscant underworld and the lowest levels seeing what kind of history laid there.
The animation of recent episodes is absolutely beautiful, but does anyone else feel like the sound design is empty and the score is sometimes completely off? It has some cartoony beats here and there that TCW never really had before.
StarWarzFan7777 yeah i liked it but it was sometimes a little off on the audio and the pauses between dialogue felt awkward
And the world-building music is rather lacking too. I only heard one piece of music at the food court scene, and it was just bland, almost like an even worse type of muzak.
ehm the season 1 of clone wars and even some of the filler episodes in clone wars seasons have this quality too. so dont know why people are bothered by it
@@johans3164 That was them starting out on something like this.
It has been years since.
@@joshuafogg6600 I think they combined old audio with new recordings for the newest episode. It has an impersonal, patched-up feel that makes character interactions feel awkward (like the voice actors weren't actually interacting). I don't know what's wrong with the score, maybe they got cheaper sound designers.
I wonder how deep the pit goes and how lawless the very bottom is 🤔
Well you can't safely get that close to the hot core and mantle.
@@TheBrickGuy7939 yes but it ends before that. the very bottom levels are said to be completely uninhabitable due to the garbage and creatures
Probably some levels are so extreme conditions that humanoid species can't live there. With some crazy alien creatures living in the hot dark tunnels
@@michaelfrontera8147 Probably cold, at least in some places. They didn't dig far into the crust, as far as we're aware
@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 wish we could see it brought to life
Pictures supposedly showing the lower levels of Coruscant are always way, way too open. It's always an impressive, dimly-lit vista of run-down buildings, but that's not what it would look like. it'd look more like Kowloon Walled City.
Honestly it just gives me closure knowing ahsoka is still alive in the sequel trilogy in my opinion the best charcter in the trilogy even tho we have not seen her it's still confirmed so I'm fine with that
Didn't we hear her say something to Ma-Rey Sue in her scene when a bunch of dead jedi were telling her they were with her?
@@frenchsoldier8485 yep but she was confirmed alive and that Is all that matters
@@spooder470 But... how and why did Rey hear her voice?
@@frenchsoldier8485 through the force that's it
@@spooder470 How and why does Ahsoka know what's going on in Exogul?
Me: Pretty reasonable, the lower levels view the Jedi as "Rich Brats" who are party poopers.
Bro: Coruscant
Subtitles: croissant
If living in the low levels of Coruscant sucks, imagine living in the low levels of Nar Shaddaa.
yeah the difference is like imagine being homeless in US vs being homeless in Russia. The problem is that Coruscant somehow represents democracy-republic and fails on it's own planet while the Nar Shaddaa clearly has a totalitarian regime. I just started thinking that most Star Wars planets-systems has some connection with the reality we live in.
@@malakopitouras2786 It's funny that you say that, because in my mind, Hutt Space has always kinda been the Russia of the Star Wars galaxy to me.
Something tells me that the Jedi who tried to help the underworld were the Sentinels but there not Canon to Disney (but to me they are) if you look into them they were known to help the weak living in slums like Coruscant when Order 66 was issued they suffered the least number of casualties that's mainly because they only went to temples to report in etc there casualties may have been Sentinels reporting in when the Clones attacked but they were ruthlessly hunted down and even given up by the very people they protected but not all people turned them in. Out of all the Jedi I respect the Sentinels the most instead of saying they protected the weak like the Guardians and Consulars did the Sentinels actually did that even after Order 66 they became vigilantes to keep helping the weak while surviving Guardians and Consulars just hid
Corusant Elites: oppress the lower class and the outer rim and live lives of decadence
Yuuzhang Vong: allow us to introduce ourselves
This video is actually has great content and summarization. You developed a strong thesis and conclusion. Loved it! Much better than Star Wars theory works as of lately! Keep them coming!
KJ Wolfe thank you!
Not better than Star Wars Theory, but I’d say Geetsly’s is probably his equal, except for that recent simp video about the Devaronians
I’ve always wanted a noir style show where Jedi detectives move through the lower levels hunting for fallen or missing Jedi
The planet reminds me of Taris, in a way, but less severe as far as laws and beliefs of the local authorities go. By the time of the Clone Wars, I suspect Taris was nothing but a pile of ruins from the civil war that took place four thousand years ago or barely habitable for the average humanoid species, especially if someone lived in the lower level and Under City.
Reminds me of the crime world of Nar shaddaa. But far worst in my opinion😔.
I'm surprised that neither the Jedi or the Empire sent a army down to the Courisany under belly. To cleanse the slums of it's crime lord's.
I imagine that the lower levels of coruscant are also the oldest, and they just kept building new levels on top of the old
I think that Disney could spin-off Star Wars: Clone Wars into a Coruscant: 1313 show. You could have the main character be an Underworld Guard (or whatever they're called), a Jedi hiding from Order 66, or even just a Robin Hood-type character. There are so many possibilities that Disney will probably ignore them in favor of pushing a Social Justice narrative.
I for one am a huge ahsoko fan and would love to see a series based on her especially after she and sabine went looking for ezra.
One question, that wasn't brought up... What level were Mission Vao and Zaalbar on in KOTOR? Its been awhile since I played it, but I was always under the impression they lived at the lowest depths...
They lived on a different planet called Taris which had 3 levels. Vao and Zaalbar lived on the mid levels of Taris
Alderaan also had it's dark side. While they have a 'princess' it isn't actually a monarchy. It's ruled by roughly 100 noble families who every decade elect their most powerful and influential family to be the royals. To help preserve the natural beauty of Alderaan wars are fiercely surpressed and forbidden. But that caused the nobles to resort to backstabbing and assignation to eliminate their rivals.
Alderani nobles were some of the most dublisidous, ruthless and calculating people in the galaxy. Capable of murdering an entire family and all their servants while keeping their hands absolutely clean. Capturing children and torturing them to force concessions was a routine practice as was framing each other for starting wars.
The undercity was almost naar shadaa by the end of the war with the vong but it got even worse when abeloth was active, the majority of the underworld became mustafar after the Jedi started booting abeloth and the lost tribe off coroscant
I wish we get Someone to finished that Cancelled Videogame.
I have always been interested in corasaunts Underworld it's that sense of anarchy that freedom everybody likes a bit of freedom right
I’d buy some guns and start a revolution down there.
@@501ststormtrooper9 ok I'll leave you to it meanwhile I'll be selling my deathsticks ;-)
There wouldnt be anarchy just various gangs exercising power
i don't know what copyright says but "underworld" should be said in Plo Koons' voice
“They reused the same air so many times it might aswell be artificial “
We reuse the same air and we call it real air it’s no different just happens in an unnatural way
“With great power comes great corruption”
If they hated the jedi then did they like the empire?
Most likely not. The empire was voted into power by the corrupt republic; the empire basically doubled down on the corruption, though made it more centralized to the emperor. Those who opposed the republic like the separatists were treated as traitors and were blamed for the war; all Papatine really did was convince the galaxy to lump the Jedi in with the separatists. Those people living in the lower level would have largely seen no changes for their lives under the empire.
@@MonteCreations Nice explanation. Thank you for that.
Hell no just because they hated the jedi doesn't mean they liked the Empire
@@MonteCreations I agree. Although I think they suffered twice as much when the Empire came into power and had complete control over Coruscant.
@@jasonskeans3327 I agree. I bet they suffered twice as much by the Sith lord Palpatine and Vader. Since they both had to get rid of loose ends down the surface of the slums and lower levels of Coruscant.
In my video game design class we had a video chat with a guy who said his friend worked on a Star Wars game that was canceled by Disney. I think he was referring to 1313. Small world.
Minus the skyscrapers and Senate buildings the roundness of the city looks like the just attached shit to the millennium falcon
I was thinking the same thing too
Always so stoked when u put out a vid in regards to star wars. Your information is thorough and precise. Keep it up.
Imagine if a lower level dweller was Force Sensitive
How is it possible strikes at the surface hit the lower levels the hardest? Dont the upper buildings protect the lower ones? After all if you throw a rock at a turtle (wich I hope no one does), it will probably hit the shell and not the inner flesh.
Coruscant somehow remembers me of the dark reality of Earth.
We have the fortune to have grown in families that could feed us, educate us and basically develop with luxuries (that's the reason of why we are here in TH-cam, is not that is a mega premium service, of course not, but for using it you need to have access to internet, therefore a house or mobile data plan and both things need money to be adquired. There is people that even cannot afford a single piece of food in the entire day, so what makes us expect they can afford Wi-Fi?) , but what about those who weren't so fortunate?.
Depending from country to country, social economical differences may be more accentuated or not. I can tell from my country (Colombia) that social inequality is really a mess, not a mess that can be concealed at least to make it the less evident as possibly.
I'm not going to say that we live in slums all the time, of course not, but, sometimes I believe our society is ruled more a la feudalism than a la capitalism.
I have the same feelings towards Coruscant.
Now, with the topic of the reputation of the Jedi......being ''protectors of peace'' is a very hard job, considering you have to select your position in events carefully, and it doesn't matter what you do, you can't please everyone. You can just make sure to please the most possible quantity as you can.
Level 1312-a.c.a.b.
Still better than 40K Hive city :D
A comic book about the day in the life of a level 1313 police officer
Given all the resources coming to the planet along with the untold amount of lives living on the planet I’d like to see how it was regulating their water and food to the lower levels. I can see police holding several ration stations where it was “safe” to collect the rations they would need to survive but if you went to crime ridden levels then you would have to trade your credits to the gangs who could jump up the price at any moment if need be. It’s also possible the water coming from the upper levels may be tainted through filtration based on the age of each level flowing down
I kinda-sorta knew this (the Justicars from SWTOR), but didn't at the same time. It makes sense as the Jedi are annoying and unlikable and fake saviors.
Virgin Coruscant vs Chad Holy Terra
Your pronunciation of the word "Cthon" was impeccable
I feel like ashokas last arc in season 5 was a good wrap up on her character but I also wanna see what she does on mandalore
Man put me in Naboo honestly.
What is the music in the background of the video??
They hate jedi, offering them their precious death sticks that they just ignore. But they love anakin for some reason. He aint even as handsome looking as Obi, wich is a clear edit error. The girls and Jar Jar where looking at Obi, not Anakin at that hunting scene IN THE LOWER LEVELS (althou we know it can get deeper thou only once we where at this place : with panaka trying to escort amidala to the senat)(i still mourn the canceling of SW 1313...)
I’d love to see a run off show that has the same animation of the clone wars but it’s placed before episode one and it’s about corrosant underground world. 🙌💎
Sounds like current day New York City. Great allegory
Inspiration, not allegory.
I wonder if they are gonna have 5128 floors
So ur telling me it takes them 100,000 years to create space travel but it takes us 1 million to make a car
5,127 levels above the natural ground of the planet? How much larger had the planet become? How had that affected planetary density? So many questions are raised and I need answers!!
maybe some one can explain it to me but how did the under world suffer the most from bombardment when their is literally kilometers of durasteel and meat shields between the top and the lower sections
Pressure from explosions alone could do a number on the Underworld, especially with all the tight corridors and condensed areas packed with bodies.
DevilJin gravity, once a tower collapses, it would create a snowball effect that just goes down & down & down dragging more stuff with it
@@scottostrowski5406 That too.
My solution to save lower levels of Coruscant would've been relocation for all the lower levels citizens of Coruscant. Possibly move them all to a large enough planet that could house each and every one of them. The Jedi Exploration Corps could find the right inhabitable planet for the citizens to start new lives. Possibly make a society similar to Naboo any other type of agricultural world.
My idea would be a top secret operation without the knowledge of Jedi order or Republic government. Would need seven essential things to make this plan a success. Money, transport ships, sustenance, metal, medical supplies, technology and I need a select group a trustworthy people to spread the word out to those who wish to leave the lower levels of Coruscant forever and start their new lives in a habitable world.
What's your plane when the people say "no"?
@@michaelhowze8198 Then that's entirely their own choice. Plus they're multiple ways to manipulate or convince people to go through with my plan. If Palpatine can convince the Trade Federation, Count Dooku and so many other to join him under his mindset and authority. Then I could do the same thing. Whether it's after the "Attack of the clones" Star Wars movie or a different era in the Star Wars Galactic history. I can convince others through action and words.
Facinating video. Interesting to see beneath the surface of Corusant
Were there any other city levels under senete building or jedi temple inhabited by normal citizens
Imagine the architectural problem of building something on the surface while having ancient structures as fundaments.
This last episode was so great! Ahsoka is my favorite Jedi. I can’t wait for this arc to finish!
The best part of Star Wars is this stuff that has nothing related to the main plots.
snazzyusername 101 meh, star wars the resistance series didn’t really produce anything great & wasn’t really that good, & it never had the appearance of even a single lightsaber
Scott Ostrowski I never bothered watching Star Wars resistance, if that’s what you’re referring to
Today is my birthday🥳. Incredible video as always Geetsly.
Thats why darsha assant got in trouble.
I bet we'll be seeing something similar in CyperPunk 2077
Is it just me or are the Jedi actually just another self-interested institution?
The waste gasses that pooled up ...in a downward flow, must had been nitrogen based
Has to be one of more interesting and important episodes. Accepting the consequences of your own actions and people who suffered under those decisions.
i love learning about the Corucanti Underworld
It doesn‘t make any sence that the lower levels would suffer from attacks or crashing ships at the SURFACE. The further you go down the more you should be protected of of boms, crashing star ships, etc.
Hey geetly u know something cool it is that when the ship blows up it is showing a clones perspective
Ι kinda remember Revan helped the lower levels
Well, Revan isn't exactly the poster boy of a "normal Jedi".
How much help did he offer? If the lower levels are still suffering before and after he died?
I liked this, not because I have seen and enjoyed this (I haven't) but because I very much appreciated the spoilers warning - thank you :) I shall return once I've fully enjoyed the entire series
I'm hyped up for the journey of ahsoka.
Fun fact: Jedi order have a massive vault full of treasures, old republic Jedi armors, relics, gold, jewelry, gems and credits that they can use to fund their operation missions and so much more.
Me: Yet they never thought about using their wealth to help the poor and unfortunate!? They have large amount of strong and weak kyber crystals. That they could sell to companies or businesses. Then use the money so they can help the lower class citizens of Coruscant and assist people in the Mid Rim, Inner Rim, Outer Rim Territories.
@Kevin Nguyen I'm saying. The Jedi order doesn't use their powers and resources wisely in my opinion.
Imagine falling down every single level. Oof
I loved the 1313 reference.
Lucasfilm should resurrect Lucasarts and just license out the IPs to studios for specific games, EA/Activision for fps, and I would love to see a developer like CD Projekt RED for an open world Star Wars game.
The title picture isn't right because ahsoka wasn't a jedi in that episode
The Senate enjoys this hate.
You are always my number 1 source of star wars Intel 👨
And here we see the Cawdor gang, wait, wrong lore.
The underworld hating those above them - the reason is capitalism gone wild
Innovation is okay. But it shouldn't go too far, where the lower class people are living under dirt, rocks or underground city with less air and oxygen.
What was the population?
Does it have anything to do with the actual fact that the Jedi shat and pissed over them?
How bad did Coruscant's Underworld suffer during the Yuuzan Vong invasion? Probably the worst of the worst.
They probably all died
Coruscant most likely became uninhabitable lol😅.(I'm joking around)
This is much like Hive cities from warhammer 40k and many thing don't make sense. If I live on the top floor of a skyscraper, what kind of engineering do I have that 10 floors collapsing 200 floors beneath me does not affect the safety of my luxury flat? If turbolasers or ships are falling from the sky, won't they have the greatest impact on the upper levels?
The city is too big to provide centralized government services to many lower parts? Have you considered the capacity of the free market which is almost always more efficent at providing goods and services than the government?
If the city is 100,000 times bigger than the largest city on Earth, it would hardly be shocking to say that there's a slum 10,000 times bigger than the biggest slum on earth, and that would be large enough to have any number of ghetto crime lord stories you wanted but I suspect there were many undercity parts that are more or less self-governing which were very nice.
Also, have you considered that sunlight might not be a universal desire and there could be many species that prefer to live underground?
Overall on a planet with over 100 times the population of earth, there would be far too many districts with unique subcultures to many any broad statements that applied to everyone.
So far as luxury, have you seen the private chambers of individual jedi?
So is Level 1 the uppermost or lower-est level?
Tanning salons and beds for personal use -> BIG business opportunities. I bet it’s considered practically a utility rather than a luxury.
You make a good point about the conflict happening due to the actions of the elite and the middle class and below suffering the most. But - even if ALL the elites and the ENTIRE ‘upper crust’ were completely wiped out, the middle class and below would STILL suffer the most.
Man they need to do some administrative reforms.... like je whiz that's a pretgy big chunk that is horrendous
Hey can anyone help me find a easy way of watching the clone wars season 7?
Commander Kryze I got to soap2day it's like 123movies but its less well known and less scummy
Disney+
@@__-ze7sp thanks for the tip
@@scorpian2722 yeah I tried that I can't find it in the game store(as in the google play store for androids) so I don't know where to get it that is the real thing
@commander Kryze I use soap2day as well
1313 is dead but some fan was gonna make it was that you or another fan channel i cant remember please tell me there is still hope last i heard was in 2018 god i hope it is still being made.