Yeah I know what you mean it’s weird because my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 has a guard on the oil cooler but not on the radiator from the factory. Now granted the oil cooler sits below the radiator so is the lowest part but it’s just weird that they would put one on the oil cooler and not the radiator. Then again my motorcycle was only $14,000 not $30,000 like yours. I know what you mean about the fuel also. If I’m playing around, I’m fueling my motorcycle every other ride. i’m getting about 35 to 38 miles per gallon and I’m not completely dogging on it but I do like to have fun. And of course 93 octane. Now of course nobody buys a bike like mine, or especially like yours for fuel economy
The key argument just makes 100% sense. Makes no sense to make the bike “keyless” if in fact it is not keyless at all, so you might as well have the key rest in the ignition all the time. Ohh well, pretty sure Kawasaki engineers will fix this at some point. Had a 2010 Z1000 back in the days and enjoyed it massively (had a candy from it tuning wise, even had an Ohlins steering damper with custom mount as well as back suspension by them, full tune/ PowerCommander, quickshifter, full Akrapovich exhaust…) Looking forward buying the H2 SX SE one summer day:)
The screen induced buffeting is a surprise. Your list is very recognizable, easy to identify with. Color wise I wish they'd have it in all black with a green frame, sort of like they did with the original H2.
Great vid and some valid points. I new the colour would grow on you. There is always going to be negatives in everything you buy but as long as the positives outweigh them it’s worth it. Look forward to the 5 things you love about it.
Nice one buddy and yea, the colour is fine. Would still have a black one though lol. The positives do outweigh the negs by a massive amount but I think it’s important to point out the negs. Cheers pal and see you very soon 💋
I own one so lets see If I agree. 5) CORRECT Seat Bag or your Saddle Bags, 4) CORRECT butter soft plastic, Bought the new Puig, 3) CORRECT I use the Center Stand on soft stuff, 2) CORRECT 1) CORRECT and Carry an extra 2032 for the only one Fob.
Now this is a bike I've fancied for some time. Looks lovely, mega engine but I completely understand the niggles. Top for me is keyless. Tried a Rocket 3 with keyless, hated the system. Its a solution to a problem that never existed. I'm still on my ulta reliable 7 year old MT10. Such a great bike for under 10K
Scared me .. I thought these were actually going to be major issues and not nit picking , throw the side bags on for storage, everyone changes the screen to a black out , the US version comes with a dual stand instead of the this crap stand lol (so I agree with it), 30 dollar exhaust wrap will stop most of the heat, keyless ignition is a great for security like you said, throw the key on a lanyard 🤝
Just sold mine, a 2019 H2SXSE, get it flashed you'll enjoy it way more, also I had the ABM bars installed cause I was so uncomfortable on the bike, Bike is hella fast and I rode it like a madman. But after 3 yrs of ownership,18500 miles, I just was getting bored of going 180MPH all the time. Thats pretty much what this bike is all about in my opinion. Its a touring bike just really fast. I now have a BMW 1250 GSA and I beat the shit out of that but is just alot more comfortable, way more. The fun now is just different. Enjoy the bike, any questions just ask me, I know everything about this bike...
I have a 2023 Ninja 1000sx, it has a key, I don't know why they didn't leave it as an option for the H2 SX SE, love my Ninja, not as much power as the H2 but plenty for me as it's my first big bike 😎👍 My bike is matte red and black, mostly black.
I keep my key in the same pocket all the time, I hardly ever take it out. but yes, when fully loaded up with panniers and top box its a pain in the arse. Top video as always mate, keep em coming. Fasty
the thing is if they put someplace to put the key on the bike then Anyone could just walk up and ride off . not a clue why its soooo big though . side stand are you having a laugh that would be strong enough to take twice the weight of the bike the foot print of it looks a little small but maybe they though " they will only use it to get off and then use the main stand that we have fitted " ? I tested one with a double bubble and it felt ok so if you want to change it look for that. the storage yes Im with you on that and the colour choice I would have loved to have a dark metallic blue instead of the green
Nice one pal. I don’t trust the side stand at all. Seems to be a very thin weld towards where it’s fixed to the bike and the bike does wobble badly on it. It might be fine but I’m always checking lol. Thanks again buddy 🫡
Great vid pal I think every bike has bad points but as long as they are out weighed by the good. It’s not the greatest with no room under the seat considering older bikes like my gixxer have ample room. Take care pal ❤
Great video Here's my top 5 list I don't like with my 2022 H2sx se Tourer, I don't hate any. 1.can't change settings electronics while riding 2.low revs are to nice/weak 3.heated grips button is difficult 4.touring screen should have been bigger, agree about the buffering, I changed to a Givi screen, better and looks good 5.Tankcap should have been keyless
Agreed with all but number 1. Try when coasting in 6th or 5th and make sure no one behind you. Put throttle to zero then change the setting. Wait while the setting is flashing until steady and sorted. I think you can do that with the suspension settings and rider modes. Haven’t tried anything else though
Mate, reference the screen, I have the tinted sport screen on mine, I’m 6ft1 and as I’ve said before on a couple of comments I’ve made, I’ve been to Italy, France, Spain with this smaller genuine sport screen and have no buffeting at all, if anything it supports my wrists etc Put the genuine tinted sports screen on it, you’ll be fine then… Trust me, I’ve done 15k on her now👌🏽
Nice one Pal. I think the one on mine is the Kawa Tinted Touring Screen then? Not sure. I thought it was the Sport screen but maybe they swap it with the performance/touring pack.
@@MotovlogUK Yeah that is the touring screen because I’ve got one too! Used it once and put the small tinted sport screen on cos I couldn’t handle the wind noise!
Great review. Its funny but I got used to my keyless fob and I like it. You must remember to always have it on your person though and on a Goldwing you could easily put your jacket in the trunk with the fob inside the jacket, and the bike could auto lock everything! So I actually like the fact that the Kawasaki requires a key for the panniers, petrol cap etc. You can get into a lot of trouble if the fob is needed for everything. The biggest hurts for me are the side stand, the radiator guard, and the skid engine protectors, which should be stock. I may also seek out a higher windscreen as I am about your height too and buffering would bother me too. Some after market screens have a steep curve outwards at the top thereby pushing the wind flow higher so you may not need a higher screen if it has a steep curve. Does the bike come with the tinted shield or was that an extra? Nice review, thank you!
Nice one buddy. Good point about the key. Never thought of that. I’m looking at screens atm. The smoked screen comes with either the touring pack or the performance pack. Can’t remember which. I have the stock screen
I had set up all the APP connections and mainly used the music and navigation. I found both to be very finicky and problematic. I have since disconnected and removed it all and went back to my phones music and GPS mounted on a stem mount.
@@MotovlogUK Is the screen bigger, or does it just do a better job of dispersing the wind? I get the same on my 1000sx, but reluctant to get a huge screen, so living with it at the moment.
Color is a big one. I came across my candy burnt orange zx14. One of those rare non green zx14s around. Been 2 years riding in Calgary (about 1.2 million people) and haven't seen another ZX14 yet. There just is something having a "rare" bike. I can imagine this bike would be similar. Absolutely beautiful machine.
th-cam.com/video/OoMy_bWlvTM/w-d-xo.html A little video a couple of years ago when I took delivery of my 2009. Have done some other goodies to her since then. You know always have to make it yours, and undo some things. Guess that is one of the great things when it isn't absolutely new you aren't worried about keeping it pristine..
I couldn’t agree more about the Ignorant Key Fob, the new 2021- Honda FireBlade had the exact same key fob, i actually lost it on my maiden voyage, it fell out my AlpineStars leather suit pocket, the zipper un zipped from crouching down, zippers on AlpineStars’s leathers are backwards for sport bike riding
I have exactly same problem with my new rst v2 leather suit, have to leave pocket unzipped as it is in the perforated floppy lining for the life of me i cannot operate the zip one handed every time I get petrol have to undo suit to get wallet all the time hoping the phone don't fall out! I have an old 2peice higns garret lethers with exelent pockets brilliant comfortable but old and for protection reasons shelled out on new leathers finding them hard work in all ways but hopefully they will save my but if needs be?
@@richardwoodhouse8397 I might put a clip on the phone holder to clip the key to lol. Done another 1000 miles the last few weeks and still can’t get used to it 😢
Great video and valid comments. It’s funny how things are meant to get better with newer version but the older version has a small key and works fine. I swapped my screen for a powerbronze double bubble tinted screen and works great with no turbulence etc at 70mph plus. Kawasaki Newbury near me are amazing and very helpful. Not sure if I will upgrade my 2020 model for the newer version. Mine has done 18k miles and still an amazing bike!
@@MotovlogUK There are two powerbronze versions of the double bubble screen. I got the lower version as the tall one looks a little odd on the bike (too tall). Just had the suspension properly set up at my local Kawasaki dealer (£30 special deal with a local suspension specialist) and has transformed the bike. I’ve also bought a ‘cool covers’ seat cover (I had one on my last bike) and it makes comfort even better. AMAZING BIKE. We will have to meet up for a ride soon.
@@NewburyNick I’ll check the screens out pal. Thank you. I had the suspension professionally set up on my GSXR and I agree, it’s the best thing I ever did so glad you got that done. You have the manual adjust suspension? Always welcome for a ride out buddy 🫡
Hey Dave, regarding the scratch on the screen. This will be covered under warranty so just speak to them bud. Regarding everything else i.e. the side stand, when i had my busa that only had a side stand and it lay over quite a bit, a local petrol station to me i had to pick a pump that wasnt on a slope as it was pretty hard to straighten up after i filled up - now that did bug me. It didnt do much for my confidence i must say. Lol
Nice one mate. I'm not too bothered about the screen now as I've put one on that works better. The side stand is a bit better too with the foot on it so all good. Just sucks that you have to spend more money on a 'no compromise bike'
Great review. Really appreciate it. I sold my BMW K1600 GT and was looking at this bike but it just seems a bit too far toward the sport side for my taste. The K bike was 80% tour 20% sport. The H2 SX SE seems the opposite. I’d like something closer to 50/50.
@@MotovlogUK I’ve test rode this bike on Saturday 😂 and the Zh2 and you’re right it’s a fantastic bike but the riding position is way too far forward I couldn’t ride it for long, now the weight mmm 🤔 it’s heavy but it’s low so not a problem, the power delivery is very strange, it’s fast no doubt about it but for me personally I prefer the power delivery of a non supercharged bike ( I had the Speed Triple 1200 ) .
Agreed 👍🏾 I’ve had the K1600 and it’s an absolute masterpiece of a bike I loved it , I’ve got the S1000Xr and it’s a pleasure to ride. The SX is a great bike and at low speeds it’s incredibly easy to ride but the riding position is very sporty so I wouldn’t buy one even though it’s supercharged it’s still a no from me
Very useful, real world information, good video. Looking to get one myself (previous ZX6R owner), would still get one even after watching this. Subbed.
Go back to o a VFR mate, having owned the2019 model i can't agree with any of your hates, db screen will sort the buffeting, tank bag will sort the under seat storage, now have a S1000xr which is keyless, once again key goes in the micro s w motech tank bag which I also had on myH2SX SE, hopefully you will post somethings you do like
Why should I have to buy a different screen? Why should I have to buy a tank bag? My dislikes all valid for me. I’m not seeking agreement. If there’s nothing about your bike you don’t like then you’re not being honest. Oh and I’ve already done a Loves vid which could have been a few hours long 🫡 enjoy you XR
I knew about the seat goin in Mate' thanks fer showing me what I've never seen-#noSpace - Mine came with the clear so its been replaced with the Zero Gravity Black out screen, total agreement on the stand but compared to my GoldWing GL1800 - it's a breeze to centerstand it - the guards in the front are a great point'
Nice one buddy. I’ve ordered the r&g pipe cover and radiator cover before I realised that you have to take the bike apart to its individual component pieces to fit them 😂 I only have a Hammer. Should be ok.
Dave: Thanks for your top 5 “dislikes”. May I add two of mine? 1: The handlebars are too low. At 5’9”, it puts a bit of strain on my back and wrists. How about for you? It’s too much sport, and not enough touring on handlebar height. 2: The passenger seat is not functional for long term comfort. Any passenger discomfort for you? Otherwise, the “likes” far outweigh the “dislikes”. Looking forward to your likes list.
Hey buddy. Good shout. I agree with the bars. Wish I could raise them an inch like I did the VFR. My Son tells me the back seat is really comfortable so I only have that to go on. It doesn’t look very comfortable though does it lol. Thanks pal 🫡
To be fair i don't know that h2sx but the Kawasaki GTR has the keyless ignition and the knob has a position as turned all the way to the right where it comes out as a key and so will open the tank etc. So it's basically functions as a key as well and i don't need to search for the other key but yours might be different.
So you forget which pocket you put the key, you don't read or don't know how to interpret the manual, the bubble screen scratches after getting hit... Black bikes, white cars... My man.... You sound a bit childish tbh
I assume you carry a key ring for your house and other keys that you use all the time, get a normal size key made that you can put on your house key ring. Why do they make such a big piece of plastic for a key anyway?
I think the chunky plastic bit has all the electronics in to link it to the bike. I’ve no idea why it needs to be so big though and it doesn’t work most of the time anyway lol
Im going to test ride one on Saturday, in the midlands,lets call them Dr Foster went to ,here's hoping someone at the dealership knows alot about the bike as ive many questions ,which would be helpful if im going to spend big bucks
Hi.Ich hab das Modell 2018.Mich Nervt total die harten Ruckler bei 30 bis 50 km/h.Die Motor Geräusche beim Start sind auch Hässlich. Sie kommen von der Steuerkette des Kompressor. Manchmal dauert es länger bis er funktioniert. Ich hab das Gefühl dass er gleich kaputt geht. Es gab Probleme damit und es wäre schon der neue Kettenspanner drin.Aber er ist auch nicht perfekt. Die verwierbelung am Helm trotz höherer Scheibe ist so stark dass ich niemals ohne Gehörschutz fahre.Wäre das behoben wäre sie für mich genial.Bin etwas Enttäuscht.
Einverstanden, Kumpel. Ich bekomme immer noch Wind auf den Helm, aber das ist nicht so schlimm. Niedrige Geschwindigkeit ist ärgerlich. Ich denke jedoch, dass es rundum ein fantastisches Fahrrad ist. Das Beste, was ich je hatte.
hi Ralf ... ich hab mir jetzt die 23er bestellt, gebe meine Hayabusa aus 23 ab dafür. Die hat auch starke Verwirbelungen trotz höherer Scheibe. Da sie sich aber extrem gut in Kurven bewegen läßt aufgrund ihres sehr niedrigen Schwerpunktes, finde ich ist sie aber auch unheimlich windempfindlich. Sobald es über 100 geht habe ich schon das Gefühl das ich mit ihr ständig am rumeiern bin. Darf ich fragen wie groß du bist ? Ich bin 1,90 m und befürchte die H2 wird da nicht viel anders sein. Läuft deine noch ?
@@beowulf5220 Hi.Ja sie läuft noch. Und ruckelt noch.Leider.Ich bin 20cm kleiner. Die verwierbelung trifft voll auf den Helm. Hätte auch die Originale dran lassen können. Sie fährt schon gut für das was sie ist.Schade dass sie nicht wie die neue die Brembo Bremspumpe hat.Dann würde sie auch noch besser Bremsen.Druckpunkt.Dosierung. Wenn nur die beiden Mängel mit dem Motor nicht wären. Dann wäre sie echt geil. Vielleicht hat ja einer das gleiche Problem und hat eine Lösung. Etwa ein ECU Flasch? Kawasaki Deutschland und mein Händler sagen das ist so.Da kann man nichts machen. Gruß
@@RalfK-m5x von diesem Konstantfahrruckeln habe ich auch schon gehört. Gerade lästig wenn man nur über Landstraße Crusen will kann ich mir vorstellen. Ich hoffe ich habe nichts falsch gemacht mit dem Kauf. Für mich sind 25k natürlich ein Haufen Geld und die 23er Hayabusa ist da auch noch mit drin. Meine Größe macht mir schon etwas Sorge, konnte sie nicht Probefahren da es keine gab. Gespannt bin ich natürlich trotzdem. Grüße
@@beowulf5220 Ja es Nervt sehr.Überall ist 30 in den Ortschaften. Besonders wenn sie richtig warm ist im Sommer finde ich es ausgeprägter. Haben aber nicht alle komischer weise. Der Motor gibt auch viel Hitze an den Fahrer ab.Optisch gefällt mir die Alte besser. Sie hat schon genug Elektronik. Das Radarsystem wollte ich nicht.
If you have somewhere on the bike to put the key, you'll accidently leave it there allowing the bike to be stolen! Keep the key on you, not the bike. That said, everything else should be keyless too.
I won't have my bikes serviced by main dealers any more, if they can't get the oil level right, what else? Last time I took my h2 in it ran fine but they fitted a chain tentioner as a recall, ever since got chain rattle on start up & pull away, took it back moaning and nearly got beaten up by the macanic ! Nice customer service ? I have always done my own maintenance, it was just last couple of years needing to get service book or chip logged.on newer bikes. I've got about half of your storage space on my H2 2015 and your 5 dislikes is why I have a zzr1400 ps as sports tourer with a decent bag on the r/seat and for those long hi speed runs I take one of the busas, if it looks like rain then the blackbird comes out. I was going to get your bike but the keyless and all the chains put me off, to high maintenance for putting the miles on? I completely agree with your niggles and yes a great bike.
@@MotovlogUK agreed. Funny enough I was looking at the h2 series in a showroom last week, I was wondering how a protector would fit due to the large curved radiator.
You could of bought a gold wing for what you paid for h2 sx m8 but it's personal preferences and all that! I think it's a lovely bike and like you say you spent all that money and couldn't have the colour you wanted.i own a Kawasaki z 1000 r performance which I acquired 3 years ago from Cornwall Kawasaki I don't live far from there myself the staff there and customer service is second to none I find.. you enjoy your bike.
Nice one buddy. Z1000r is a cracker. Gold wings not for me pal. This is my dream bike and I suppose there’s always things you’re not going to like with anything. Thanks for watching and commenting buddy
Hey Dave, Great video,I have just PX my 2015 ZZR1400 Performance Sport for a 2018 H2 SX- hasn't got the TFT and other toys like yours...but will be enough for me as I think todays bikes and cars have far too much tech on them to go wrong
Hey buddy. Nice one pal. I would have liked the model with half tft and half analogue. Nothing like watching a needle climb. Not the same with a digital readout. Enjoy it buddy and thanks for commenting 🫡
@@MotovlogUK even in your video i see rust on the side stand right away. Actually, the entire tubular steel frame is rusting from the inside. It is best to seal the cavity
@@volbeat676 stand had mud/dirt stuck in it. Sealing the cavities in the frame will keep the moisture in and allow rust to form so I don’t think that’s a good idea. Best to let it drain
@@MotovlogUK hi Dave, I've been watching your videos, love what you do. I'm a baldy 60 this year. Have a 2018 H2 SX SE full performance tourer. Would love to meet up one day
The app is NOT NOT NOT a niggle, it's the #1 thing i DESPISE about this bike. Pretty much all the software is completely useless. If you have a flip phone, it wont work without the phone held open... The turn by turn nav... You need to use this third party trash that doesn't come with it.... If you want to be realistic, the TFT is just a stupid aesthetic item, it's got little to no actual functionality as using the phone with it is complete trash, and not even possible if you have a flip phone, which are normally GREAT for motorcycles as they fit a belt holster nicely. I kinda like the keyless functionality, but when you lock the head, it's really a PITA to get it to unlock until you get used to it. I agree that it's an amazing bike, after owning it for a year, but having turn by turn nav is a major safety item on a bike, and you basically don't have that here..
@@MotovlogUK It's an amazing bike though, one of the great things about it are all the safety features, which is why that app burns by britches so much, as i see things like an easy to see NAV screen as a safety feature..
I don’t have keyless on mine due to it being an older model. But Jesus, the rest of your gripes are trifling, it’s one of the best value sports tourer bikes on the market. Space under the seat!! So when you are riding for 3 days you expect to fit your luggage in there? The side stand is there for you to momentarily rest the bike so you can put it on the centre stand. Didn’t mention a centre stand did you? Send the fairing visor back under warranty!! Seriously mate - my major gripe is that you made this video as click bait without any real substance and titled it so you might somehow graft some sponsors and become a reviewer. It was seriously a shocking review.
Haha lol. Take a breath buddy. These are the things I don’t like and are very relevant to me. Best value bike though??? Use centre stand all the time??? Nah. No click bait here mate and I have no aspirations at all to review and be sponsored. Oh and I do think It’s a great bike over all. Think I said that. Thanks for the comment.
IMO..It wasn't thought out like it should have been.My 2015 H2 was actually a great bike.This 2020 SXSE+ I have has required a reshaped seat,bar risers.and a flash/piping to pull the ponies out somewhat.THen the recalls.My bike has been actually trouble-free in 8K miles so far.Only the tensioner seems to be getting a bit noisier at startup when cold.I have a manual one here.@@MotovlogUK
Just taking the piss a little as your dislikes were minor compared to what I have experienced on my new 2022 KTM super duke GT which Ive only had since March- Ive decided to trade it back and taken a hit after numerous problems including stopping suddenly, multiple fault codes, stranded in middle of nowhere, new battery etc in 5 months and half a dozen visits to the dealer (who was as helpful as they could be). I was looking at your vids to decide what to get next as I decided to go with the 2023 H2SX SE !@@MotovlogUK
@@stellaracrobat hey it’s all good pal but OMG it sounds like you’ve had an absolute nightmare. What a shame pal. I thought KTM were sorted now. That sucks big time. Haven’t had any major issues atm 🤞 on the H2. You’ll love it mate. You getting the performance and touring packs on it?
I think all of his comments are on point. Honest and open can’t say they’re pathetic when they’re a valid point. Check your self on how you write your literature some people may be offended by comments 😒
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Yeah I know what you mean it’s weird because my 2023 Yamaha MT 10 has a guard on the oil cooler but not on the radiator from the factory. Now granted the oil cooler sits below the radiator so is the lowest part but it’s just weird that they would put one on the oil cooler and not the radiator. Then again my motorcycle was only $14,000 not $30,000 like yours.
I know what you mean about the fuel also. If I’m playing around, I’m fueling my motorcycle every other ride. i’m getting about 35 to 38 miles per gallon and I’m not completely dogging on it but I do like to have fun. And of course 93 octane. Now of course nobody buys a bike like mine, or especially like yours for fuel economy
The key argument just makes 100% sense. Makes no sense to make the bike “keyless” if in fact it is not keyless at all, so you might as well have the key rest in the ignition all the time. Ohh well, pretty sure Kawasaki engineers will fix this at some point.
Had a 2010 Z1000 back in the days and enjoyed it massively (had a candy from it tuning wise, even had an Ohlins steering damper with custom mount as well as back suspension by them, full tune/ PowerCommander, quickshifter, full Akrapovich exhaust…)
Looking forward buying the H2 SX SE one summer day:)
The screen induced buffeting is a surprise. Your list is very recognizable, easy to identify with. Color wise I wish they'd have it in all black with a green frame, sort of like they did with the original H2.
Thank you buddy and yea a bit weird with the colour but hey ho. That colour you mentioned with the flame would be awesome! Might get it wrapped lol
Their 2024 models look like they’ll be (almost) all black and the se will have a metallic silver stripe up the side
Buy a lanyard, fit to fob, drop down the the front of your jacket. Easy to access and harder to lose too.
I must admit I'm not a fan of any keyless ignition, maybe it's my age 🤣🤣 top vid mate 👍🏻
Great vid and some valid points. I new the colour would grow on you.
There is always going to be negatives in everything you buy but as long as the positives outweigh them it’s worth it. Look forward to the 5 things you love about it.
Nice one buddy and yea, the colour is fine. Would still have a black one though lol. The positives do outweigh the negs by a massive amount but I think it’s important to point out the negs. Cheers pal and see you very soon 💋
I own one so lets see If I agree. 5) CORRECT Seat Bag or your Saddle Bags, 4) CORRECT butter soft plastic, Bought the new Puig, 3) CORRECT I use the Center Stand on soft stuff, 2) CORRECT 1) CORRECT and Carry an extra 2032 for the only one Fob.
Legend 🫡
Now this is a bike I've fancied for some time. Looks lovely, mega engine but I completely understand the niggles. Top for me is keyless. Tried a Rocket 3 with keyless, hated the system. Its a solution to a problem that never existed.
I'm still on my ulta reliable 7 year old MT10. Such a great bike for under 10K
MT10 is MEGA. I tried one out a few years ago. Absolutely fantastic bike. Cheers pal
Scared me .. I thought these were actually going to be major issues and not nit picking , throw the side bags on for storage, everyone changes the screen to a black out , the US version comes with a dual stand instead of the this crap stand lol (so I agree with it), 30 dollar exhaust wrap will stop most of the heat, keyless ignition is a great for security like you said, throw the key on a lanyard 🤝
Oh and no auto cancelling indicators 😂
Just sold mine, a 2019 H2SXSE, get it flashed you'll enjoy it way more, also I had the ABM bars installed cause I was so uncomfortable on the bike, Bike is hella fast and I rode it like a madman. But after 3 yrs of ownership,18500 miles, I just was getting bored of going 180MPH all the time. Thats pretty much what this bike is all about in my opinion. Its a touring bike just really fast. I now have a BMW 1250 GSA and I beat the shit out of that but is just alot more comfortable, way more. The fun now is just different. Enjoy the bike, any questions just ask me, I know everything about this bike...
Awesome mate. I’ll have a look at the bars you mentioned. My buddies love their GSA’s. Good choice 🫡
I have a 2023 Ninja 1000sx, it has a key, I don't know why they didn't leave it as an option for the H2 SX SE, love my Ninja, not as much power as the H2 but plenty for me as it's my first big bike 😎👍 My bike is matte red and black, mostly black.
Agreed mate. 1000SX is a top bike pal.
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All the best from Australia 🦘
Love the 1000sx. Looking like my choice. The zx-10r is still tempting though . 🤔
Some valid points there pal, you put your opinions across eloquently and with clarity, great vid pal 👍
Thank you buddy 🫡
I keep my key in the same pocket all the time, I hardly ever take it out. but yes, when fully loaded up with panniers and top box its a pain in the arse. Top video as always mate, keep em coming. Fasty
Nice one buddy and yea I do that but there’s always that doubt lol
the thing is if they put someplace to put the key on the bike then Anyone could just walk up and ride off . not a clue why its soooo big though .
side stand are you having a laugh that would be strong enough to take twice the weight of the bike the foot print of it looks a little small but maybe they though " they will only use it to get off and then use the main stand that we have fitted " ?
I tested one with a double bubble and it felt ok so if you want to change it look for that.
the storage yes Im with you on that and the colour choice I would have loved to have a dark metallic blue instead of the green
Nice one pal. I don’t trust the side stand at all. Seems to be a very thin weld towards where it’s fixed to the bike and the bike does wobble badly on it. It might be fine but I’m always checking lol. Thanks again buddy 🫡
Great vid pal I think every bike has bad points but as long as they are out weighed by the good. It’s not the greatest with no room under the seat considering older bikes like my gixxer have ample room. Take care pal ❤
It’s a pain when you’ve got leathers on and barely any pockets lol
Great video
Here's my top 5 list I don't like with my 2022 H2sx se Tourer, I don't hate any.
1.can't change settings electronics while riding
2.low revs are to nice/weak
3.heated grips button is difficult
4.touring screen should have been bigger, agree about the buffering, I changed to a Givi screen, better and looks good
5.Tankcap should have been keyless
Agreed with all but number 1. Try when coasting in 6th or 5th and make sure no one behind you. Put throttle to zero then change the setting. Wait while the setting is flashing until steady and sorted. I think you can do that with the suspension settings and rider modes. Haven’t tried anything else though
@@MotovlogUK thanks I try!
Kinda agree - but the upside is its safer :-)
Lovely to meet you mate! Will 100% come out for a ride soon!
Good to meet you too mate! Always welcome for a bimble
Mate, reference the screen, I have the tinted sport screen on mine, I’m 6ft1 and as I’ve said before on a couple of comments I’ve made, I’ve been to Italy, France, Spain with this smaller genuine sport screen and have no buffeting at all, if anything it supports my wrists etc
Put the genuine tinted sports screen on it, you’ll be fine then… Trust me, I’ve done 15k on her now👌🏽
Nice one Pal. I think the one on mine is the Kawa Tinted Touring Screen then? Not sure. I thought it was the Sport screen but maybe they swap it with the performance/touring pack.
@@MotovlogUK Yeah that is the touring screen because I’ve got one too! Used it once and put the small tinted sport screen on cos I couldn’t handle the wind noise!
@@skts2610 top man. Thanks for the tip buddy I’ll give the other screen a go
Great review. Its funny but I got used to my keyless fob and I like it. You must remember to always have it on your person though and on a Goldwing you could easily put your jacket in the trunk with the fob inside the jacket, and the bike could auto lock everything! So I actually like the fact that the Kawasaki requires a key for the panniers, petrol cap etc. You can get into a lot of trouble if the fob is needed for everything. The biggest hurts for me are the side stand, the radiator guard, and the skid engine protectors, which should be stock. I may also seek out a higher windscreen as I am about your height too and buffering would bother me too. Some after market screens have a steep curve outwards at the top thereby pushing the wind flow higher so you may not need a higher screen if it has a steep curve. Does the bike come with the tinted shield or was that an extra? Nice review, thank you!
Nice one buddy. Good point about the key. Never thought of that. I’m looking at screens atm. The smoked screen comes with either the touring pack or the performance pack. Can’t remember which. I have the stock screen
I had set up all the APP connections and mainly used the music and navigation. I found both to be very finicky and problematic. I have since disconnected and removed it all and went back to my phones music and GPS mounted on a stem mount.
I’ve done the same mate. May give it another go though when I have the time. Cheers pal
I think you are being a bit nit picky....
What's that say about the bike?
@@Hunter1st Well I have no idea but after riding sport type bikes for 45yrs those days are overish, I am getting an H2 SX SE next month...
Screen wise get the double bubble screen it still looks good and would throw the air over your head at your height.
Got one pal. Bought a Powerbronze. Works well.
@@MotovlogUK Is the screen bigger, or does it just do a better job of dispersing the wind? I get the same on my 1000sx, but reluctant to get a huge screen, so living with it at the moment.
Color is a big one. I came across my candy burnt orange zx14. One of those rare non green zx14s around. Been 2 years riding in Calgary (about 1.2 million people) and haven't seen another ZX14 yet. There just is something having a "rare" bike. I can imagine this bike would be similar. Absolutely beautiful machine.
I love the Zx14 and did consider one. Never seen one in orange! Bet it looks awesome 🫡
th-cam.com/video/OoMy_bWlvTM/w-d-xo.html A little video a couple of years ago when I took delivery of my 2009. Have done some other goodies to her since then. You know always have to make it yours, and undo some things. Guess that is one of the great things when it isn't absolutely new you aren't worried about keeping it pristine..
I couldn’t agree more about the Ignorant Key Fob, the new 2021- Honda FireBlade had the exact same key fob, i actually lost it on my maiden voyage, it fell out my AlpineStars leather suit pocket, the zipper un zipped from crouching down, zippers on AlpineStars’s leathers are backwards for sport bike riding
What a nightmare. I’m still not used to it. Just does t make sense to me. Something else to lose or forget
I have exactly same problem with my new rst v2 leather suit, have to leave pocket unzipped as it is in the perforated floppy lining for the life of me i cannot operate the zip one handed every time I get petrol have to undo suit to get wallet all the time hoping the phone don't fall out! I have an old 2peice higns garret lethers with exelent pockets brilliant comfortable but old and for protection reasons shelled out on new leathers finding them hard work in all ways but hopefully they will save my but if needs be?
@@richardwoodhouse8397 I might put a clip on the phone holder to clip the key to lol. Done another 1000 miles the last few weeks and still can’t get used to it 😢
Great video and valid comments. It’s funny how things are meant to get better with newer version but the older version has a small key and works fine. I swapped my screen for a powerbronze double bubble tinted screen and works great with no turbulence etc at 70mph plus. Kawasaki Newbury near me are amazing and very helpful. Not sure if I will upgrade my 2020 model for the newer version. Mine has done 18k miles and still an amazing bike!
Hey buddy. I’ll have a look at the power bronze. I put one on the VFR and it was good. Keep the 2020 mate 🤘
@@MotovlogUK There are two powerbronze versions of the double bubble screen. I got the lower version as the tall one looks a little odd on the bike (too tall). Just had the suspension properly set up at my local Kawasaki dealer (£30 special deal with a local suspension specialist) and has transformed the bike. I’ve also bought a ‘cool covers’ seat cover (I had one on my last bike) and it makes comfort even better. AMAZING BIKE. We will have to meet up for a ride soon.
@@NewburyNick I’ll check the screens out pal. Thank you. I had the suspension professionally set up on my GSXR and I agree, it’s the best thing I ever did so glad you got that done. You have the manual adjust suspension? Always welcome for a ride out buddy 🫡
@@MotovlogUK yes I’ve got the manual suspension (se) model. If I ever upgrade then I will go for the electronic suspension like yours.
@@NewburyNick bet it feels great now set up properly. Makes a hell of a difference. Best thing I ever did on my GSXR
you can give it to me if you don't like it 😊
Hey Dave, regarding the scratch on the screen. This will be covered under warranty so just speak to them bud. Regarding everything else i.e. the side stand, when i had my busa that only had a side stand and it lay over quite a bit, a local petrol station to me i had to pick a pump that wasnt on a slope as it was pretty hard to straighten up after i filled up - now that did bug me. It didnt do much for my confidence i must say. Lol
Nice one mate. I'm not too bothered about the screen now as I've put one on that works better. The side stand is a bit better too with the foot on it so all good. Just sucks that you have to spend more money on a 'no compromise bike'
Good to here bud. Smashing bike. Enjoy yourself
Great review. Really appreciate it. I sold my BMW K1600 GT and was looking at this bike but it just seems a bit too far toward the sport side for my taste. The K bike was 80% tour 20% sport. The H2 SX SE seems the opposite. I’d like something closer to 50/50.
No problem buddy and you’re 100% correct there.
@@MotovlogUK I corrected a typo. Doh. Seems you got my drift.
@@MotovlogUK I’ve test rode this bike on Saturday 😂 and the Zh2 and you’re right it’s a fantastic bike but the riding position is way too far forward I couldn’t ride it for long, now the weight mmm 🤔 it’s heavy but it’s low so not a problem, the power delivery is very strange, it’s fast no doubt about it but for me personally I prefer the power delivery of a non supercharged bike ( I had the Speed Triple 1200 ) .
Agreed 👍🏾 I’ve had the K1600 and it’s an absolute masterpiece of a bike I loved it , I’ve got the S1000Xr and it’s a pleasure to ride. The SX is a great bike and at low speeds it’s incredibly easy to ride but the riding position is very sporty so I wouldn’t buy one even though it’s supercharged it’s still a no from me
Get the Triumph Rocket 3 ! 250 Nm of torque 😂!! 👍🏾
Very useful, real world information, good video.
Looking to get one myself (previous ZX6R owner), would still get one even after watching this. Subbed.
Hey buddy. Deffo an amazing bike. I love the pants off it 🫡
Go back to o a VFR mate, having owned the2019 model i can't agree with any of your hates, db screen will sort the buffeting, tank bag will sort the under seat storage, now have a S1000xr which is keyless, once again key goes in the micro s w motech tank bag which I also had on myH2SX SE, hopefully you will post somethings you do like
Why should I have to buy a different screen? Why should I have to buy a tank bag? My dislikes all valid for me. I’m not seeking agreement. If there’s nothing about your bike you don’t like then you’re not being honest. Oh and I’ve already done a Loves vid which could have been a few hours long 🫡 enjoy you XR
I knew about the seat goin in Mate' thanks fer showing me what I've never seen-#noSpace - Mine came with the clear so its been replaced with the Zero Gravity Black out screen, total agreement on the stand but compared to my GoldWing GL1800 - it's a breeze to centerstand it - the guards in the front are a great point'
Nice one buddy. I’ve ordered the r&g pipe cover and radiator cover before I realised that you have to take the bike apart to its individual component pieces to fit them 😂 I only have a Hammer. Should be ok.
@@MotovlogUK omg - no way - I’m 6ft so peg extensions were a lifesaver- may do Murphy risers next - could live on it then
Dave: Thanks for your top 5 “dislikes”. May I add two of mine?
1: The handlebars are too low. At 5’9”, it puts a bit of strain on my back and wrists. How about for you? It’s too much sport, and not enough touring on handlebar height.
2: The passenger seat is not functional for long term comfort. Any passenger discomfort for you?
Otherwise, the “likes” far outweigh the “dislikes”. Looking forward to your likes list.
Hey buddy. Good shout. I agree with the bars. Wish I could raise them an inch like I did the VFR. My Son tells me the back seat is really comfortable so I only have that to go on. It doesn’t look very comfortable though does it lol. Thanks pal 🫡
Great video! Swap the fuel cap for a quick release from TWC
To be fair i don't know that h2sx but the Kawasaki GTR has the keyless ignition and the knob has a position as turned all the way to the right where it comes out as a key and so will open the tank etc. So it's basically functions as a key as well and i don't need to search for the other key but yours might be different.
Now that’s not a bad idea at all but sadly, mine doesn’t do that. Well, not that I know of lol
So you forget which pocket you put the key, you don't read or don't know how to interpret the manual, the bubble screen scratches after getting hit... Black bikes, white cars... My man.... You sound a bit childish tbh
Thank you. I never grew up. It’s a good thing 🫡
Didnt you test ride it for the 4 hour test ride usually allowed?!
Hey buddy. I went to 3 dealers and none of them had a bike to test ride
I assume you carry a key ring for your house and other keys that you use all the time, get a normal size key made that you can put on your house key ring. Why do they make such a big piece of plastic for a key anyway?
I think the chunky plastic bit has all the electronics in to link it to the bike. I’ve no idea why it needs to be so big though and it doesn’t work most of the time anyway lol
@@MotovlogUK I didn't think of that. What a pain in the ass.
Im going to test ride one on Saturday, in the midlands,lets call them Dr Foster went to ,here's hoping someone at the dealership knows alot about the bike as ive many questions ,which would be helpful if im going to spend big bucks
Good luck buddy. You’ll love the ride I’m sure 🫡
Hi.Ich hab das Modell 2018.Mich Nervt total die harten Ruckler bei 30 bis 50 km/h.Die Motor Geräusche beim Start sind auch Hässlich. Sie kommen von der Steuerkette des Kompressor. Manchmal dauert es länger bis er funktioniert. Ich hab das Gefühl dass er gleich kaputt geht. Es gab Probleme damit und es wäre schon der neue Kettenspanner drin.Aber er ist auch nicht perfekt. Die verwierbelung am Helm trotz höherer Scheibe ist so stark dass ich niemals ohne Gehörschutz fahre.Wäre das behoben wäre sie für mich genial.Bin etwas Enttäuscht.
Einverstanden, Kumpel. Ich bekomme immer noch Wind auf den Helm, aber das ist nicht so schlimm. Niedrige Geschwindigkeit ist ärgerlich. Ich denke jedoch, dass es rundum ein fantastisches Fahrrad ist. Das Beste, was ich je hatte.
hi Ralf ... ich hab mir jetzt die 23er bestellt, gebe meine Hayabusa aus 23 ab dafür. Die hat auch starke Verwirbelungen trotz höherer Scheibe. Da sie sich aber extrem gut in Kurven bewegen läßt aufgrund ihres sehr niedrigen Schwerpunktes, finde ich ist sie aber auch unheimlich windempfindlich. Sobald es über 100 geht habe ich schon das Gefühl das ich mit ihr ständig am rumeiern bin. Darf ich fragen wie groß du bist ? Ich bin 1,90 m und befürchte die H2 wird da nicht viel anders sein. Läuft deine noch ?
@@beowulf5220 Hi.Ja sie läuft noch. Und ruckelt noch.Leider.Ich bin 20cm kleiner. Die verwierbelung trifft voll auf den Helm. Hätte auch die Originale dran lassen können. Sie fährt schon gut für das was sie ist.Schade dass sie nicht wie die neue die Brembo Bremspumpe hat.Dann würde sie auch noch besser Bremsen.Druckpunkt.Dosierung. Wenn nur die beiden Mängel mit dem Motor nicht wären. Dann wäre sie echt geil. Vielleicht hat ja einer das gleiche Problem und hat eine Lösung. Etwa ein ECU Flasch? Kawasaki Deutschland und mein Händler sagen das ist so.Da kann man nichts machen. Gruß
@@RalfK-m5x von diesem Konstantfahrruckeln habe ich auch schon gehört. Gerade lästig wenn man nur über Landstraße Crusen will kann ich mir vorstellen. Ich hoffe ich habe nichts falsch gemacht mit dem Kauf. Für mich sind 25k natürlich ein Haufen Geld und die 23er Hayabusa ist da auch noch mit drin. Meine Größe macht mir schon etwas Sorge, konnte sie nicht Probefahren da es keine gab. Gespannt bin ich natürlich trotzdem.
Grüße
@@beowulf5220 Ja es Nervt sehr.Überall ist 30 in den Ortschaften. Besonders wenn sie richtig warm ist im Sommer finde ich es ausgeprägter. Haben aber nicht alle komischer weise. Der Motor gibt auch viel Hitze an den Fahrer ab.Optisch gefällt mir die Alte besser. Sie hat schon genug Elektronik. Das Radarsystem wollte ich nicht.
If you have somewhere on the bike to put the key, you'll accidently leave it there allowing the bike to be stolen! Keep the key on you, not the bike. That said, everything else should be keyless too.
In the ignition. Seems a good place to keep it lol
@@MotovlogUK If the bike isn't completely keyless then I agree 100%
How many miles to the tank are you getting? Im thinking of trading my 2017 concours 14 for a sxse.
I get around 200 miles on a tank pal. Could probably push that to 230 if I tried
All new bikes need rad guards.
Agreed pal
I won't have my bikes serviced by main dealers any more, if they can't get the oil level right, what else? Last time I took my h2 in it ran fine but they fitted a chain tentioner as a recall, ever since got chain rattle on start up & pull away, took it back moaning and nearly got beaten up by the macanic ! Nice customer service ? I have always done my own maintenance, it was just last couple of years needing to get service book or chip logged.on newer bikes. I've got about half of your storage space on my H2 2015 and your 5 dislikes is why I have a zzr1400 ps as sports tourer with a decent bag on the r/seat and for those long hi speed runs I take one of the busas, if it looks like rain then the blackbird comes out. I was going to get your bike but the keyless and all the chains put me off, to high maintenance for putting the miles on? I completely agree with your niggles and yes a great bike.
Did you not notice the lack of radiator and pipe guards before you bought the bike buddy.
I did mate. Straight away. Not a reason to not buy the bike though I just think it’s pretty bad they don’t put any on
@@MotovlogUK agreed. Funny enough I was looking at the h2 series in a showroom last week, I was wondering how a protector would fit due to the large curved radiator.
@@johnklockyer there are 2 for the SX. Upper rad cover and lower pipe cover. I put them on and they were a massive pain to fit
You could of bought a gold wing for what you paid for h2 sx m8 but it's personal preferences and all that! I think it's a lovely bike and like you say you spent all that money and couldn't have the colour you wanted.i own a Kawasaki z 1000 r performance which I acquired 3 years ago from Cornwall Kawasaki I don't live far from there myself the staff there and customer service is second to none I find.. you enjoy your bike.
Nice one buddy. Z1000r is a cracker. Gold wings not for me pal. This is my dream bike and I suppose there’s always things you’re not going to like with anything. Thanks for watching and commenting buddy
He like sound of his own Voice
Thank you. My voice is amazing
スマートキーについては、完全に同意。
Its slow stock a custom tune and pipe its a 240 hp power house that will do over 200mph.
I wouldn’t say slow but would deffo agree that a tune will be awesome
"slow"? 😅😅😅
@@stratolestele7611 slow with me on it 😂
Hey Dave,
Great video,I have just PX my 2015 ZZR1400 Performance Sport for a 2018 H2 SX- hasn't got the TFT and other toys like yours...but will be enough for me as I think todays bikes and cars have far too much tech on them to go wrong
Hey buddy. Nice one pal. I would have liked the model with half tft and half analogue. Nothing like watching a needle climb. Not the same with a digital readout. Enjoy it buddy and thanks for commenting 🫡
The worst is still the susceptibility to rust at Kawasaki. Totally unacceptable at 25000+€
Really? What will rust? I had no idea that was a thing with Kawasaki
I've had 5 Kawis (2 currently) Rust?
@@MotovlogUK even in your video i see rust on the side stand right away. Actually, the entire tubular steel frame is rusting from the inside. It is best to seal the cavity
@@volbeat676 really?
@@volbeat676 stand had mud/dirt stuck in it. Sealing the cavities in the frame will keep the moisture in and allow rust to form so I don’t think that’s a good idea. Best to let it drain
Love this bike but come on Kawasaki get your act together people are spending mega money on this bike
Dave, are we clones lol we seem to like much of the same stuff 😊
We’re just grounded in reality. It’s a small group lol.
@@MotovlogUK hi Dave, I've been watching your videos, love what you do. I'm a baldy 60 this year. Have a 2018 H2 SX SE full performance tourer. Would love to meet up one day
The app is NOT NOT NOT a niggle, it's the #1 thing i DESPISE about this bike. Pretty much all the software is completely useless. If you have a flip phone, it wont work without the phone held open... The turn by turn nav... You need to use this third party trash that doesn't come with it.... If you want to be realistic, the TFT is just a stupid aesthetic item, it's got little to no actual functionality as using the phone with it is complete trash, and not even possible if you have a flip phone, which are normally GREAT for motorcycles as they fit a belt holster nicely.
I kinda like the keyless functionality, but when you lock the head, it's really a PITA to get it to unlock until you get used to it.
I agree that it's an amazing bike, after owning it for a year, but having turn by turn nav is a major safety item on a bike, and you basically don't have that here..
Thanks buddy for the info. I agree with everything you said. I was missold lol
@@MotovlogUK It's an amazing bike though, one of the great things about it are all the safety features, which is why that app burns by britches so much, as i see things like an easy to see NAV screen as a safety feature..
@@petepuskas4047 agreed mate. I love it. I consider it the best bike ever made
27 degree is not that hot...
Celsius. Hot standing still lol
You could put the key under the passenger seat. 🤷
I now have a designated pocket lol. It helps some of the time...
Hello Dave....
Milord. How you doing?
@@MotovlogUK good buddy, nice content as usual. Stunning machine you lucky boy !!!!
@@MrOkiparker Thank you pal. Much appreciated.
I don’t have keyless on mine due to it being an older model. But Jesus, the rest of your gripes are trifling, it’s one of the best value sports tourer bikes on the market. Space under the seat!! So when you are riding for 3 days you expect to fit your luggage in there? The side stand is there for you to momentarily rest the bike so you can put it on the centre stand. Didn’t mention a centre stand did you? Send the fairing visor back under warranty!! Seriously mate - my major gripe is that you made this video as click bait without any real substance and titled it so you might somehow graft some sponsors and become a reviewer. It was seriously a shocking review.
Haha lol. Take a breath buddy. These are the things I don’t like and are very relevant to me. Best value bike though??? Use centre stand all the time??? Nah. No click bait here mate and I have no aspirations at all to review and be sponsored. Oh and I do think It’s a great bike over all. Think I said that. Thanks for the comment.
IMO..It wasn't thought out like it should have been.My 2015 H2 was actually a great bike.This 2020 SXSE+ I have has required a reshaped seat,bar risers.and a flash/piping to pull the ponies out somewhat.THen the recalls.My bike has been actually trouble-free in 8K miles so far.Only the tensioner seems to be getting a bit noisier at startup when cold.I have a manual one here.@@MotovlogUK
Really …
Really really 🫡
Just taking the piss a little as your dislikes were minor compared to what I have experienced on my new 2022 KTM super duke GT which Ive only had since March- Ive decided to trade it back and taken a hit after numerous problems including stopping suddenly, multiple fault codes, stranded in middle of nowhere, new battery etc in 5 months and half a dozen visits to the dealer (who was as helpful as they could be). I was looking at your vids to decide what to get next as I decided to go with the 2023 H2SX SE !@@MotovlogUK
PS I agree about the side stand and fuel cap need the key. My Beemer has all that sorted, and I use a lanyard which works great
@@stellaracrobat hey it’s all good pal but OMG it sounds like you’ve had an absolute nightmare. What a shame pal. I thought KTM were sorted now. That sucks big time. Haven’t had any major issues atm 🤞 on the H2. You’ll love it mate. You getting the performance and touring packs on it?
@@stellaracrobat I tried the lanyard approach but I kept swinging the key into the bike when I unzipped my jacket at the cafes lol. It went in the bin
Deal breakers. Sell it to me!
You’re on lol
I’ve an H2 Sxse +
No problems at all , I think your comments are pathetic, the keyless are a nuisance, I do prefer a key.
I think all of his comments are on point. Honest and open can’t say they’re pathetic when they’re a valid point. Check your self on how you write your literature some people may be offended by comments 😒
You ok there pal? Thanks for taking the time to comment
@@MotovlogUK 😂😂 I’m sure he’s absolutely fine 😂👍
@@moistdecoy maybe just a little pathetic