Winter tyres certainly help but complete safety in snow and ice can never be guaranteed. Extending the two second rule up to 10 seconds may help with thinking and braking distances using engine braking and/or very light cadence braking. ABS won't necessarily deploy any braking improvement but might help control a skid if it's possible to steer into it. It is worth checking the handbook about your ABS and what to do in an emergency...In most situations it helps with the steering by keeping the brake pedal depressed and letting the ABS do its job.Try to avoid gradients and keep going in second gear to reduce unnecessary friction. Front wheel drive works better that rear and 4x4 is preferable to both.Back in the early 70's I kept my stage 2 Mini Cooper going over Exmoor in around 6 inches of fresh snow from near Exford and eventually reached my destination, Barnstaple, several hours later via Bridgewater, the M5,Exeter and the A377 which I knew well and to be relatively flat. My family were pleased to see me.. No mobile 'phones in those days and any form of rescue was out of the question. Certainly an interesting drive including a several second spell in thick smoke enveloping the 377 in the Crediton area supplied by some thoughtful gardener burning leaves! The Cooper handled brilliantly and I had to stop once or twice to bash ice away from the wheel arches to prevent tyre and brake contact. Also the roof to prevent sizable slabs falling onto either the road or somewhere else. It was a strange feeling shuffling along after Exeter and not a soul in sight and not knowing whether the snow would ever let up and whether the fuel would hold out. I was pleased that I had only recently waterproofed the distributer and replaced the battery. Paddy Hopkirk put the Coopers on the map back in the sixties by winning the Monte Carlo Rallye I think more than once which reinforced my belief that the car would get me home. Fortunately I always keep basic kit and water on board for these situations plus warm clothing and some sort of food. I now drive a Land Rover Freelander 2 which loves the snow but never changes my perception of how uncomfortable things can suddenly get if you are unprepared and don't know what you are doing.
It can be properly snowy there. Five winters ago I was overtaken by two German cars on the fast moorland stretch from Alston to Hartside summit in very poor icy conditions with just three inches of snow. Ten minutes later I found each of them with their car bonnets buried deep in 8 foot high piled snow banks at the nasty 180 degree corners on the way down to Penrith that you show in this video. Both said they couldn't stop. Each did thousands in damage to their cars.
Lucky they didn’t kill themselves or worse someone else.One of the problems with driving in Germany is that there are no speed limits on autobhans and this might reflect reckless driving elsewhere especially in wintery conditions which some drivers think they know all about.
Good winter tyres and a bit of common sense are generally all you need to be safe in these conditions. Always wise to carry a few cold weather provisions as well. Great to see the wally in the black Audi at the beginning driving too fast with no lights on. Some people really need a little accident to shock them into thinking a bit more. There are still a large portion of drivers who are winter tyre sceptics but if you gave them a taste of what a difference they actually make, i'm sure they'd quickly change their viewpoint.
To me, it's common sense to have winter tires on but you have so much of a mixture of weather in the UK that catches people out, thanks Scot for commenting and watching. Have a great New Year.
You have obviously got good experience in travelling in these sort of conditions and stopping to help the people in the white vehicle you are a star. It's good that you are stocked up on food, hot flask of coffee and most important warm clothes for the Winter climate. Stay Safe. Buddy. I will never criticise anyone who are willing to help others.
The road he drives is back of my old. house never go on it with out extra warm clothes sleeping bag lots chocolate in the boot if possible a small camping stove. Just in case you get stuck Cumbria is placed to go out to the shop in winter with out your car prepared ! You see London people buy house. Moving in winter you see them smashed there cars. They last 2 winter. Before there dreams of life in Cumbria is not there ideas of wot they bought in to the road in question is the one worse in the area the cold s exposed but love to move back if I could afford to do so live on top.
Great normal Cumbrian weather the summer cov19 escape who push house prices up be learning to live with great weather in the area this winter ie it cold difficult to get around and you have plan your life during winter including get about. Wellcome to Cumbria in winter I love it ! But the new ideas people hate it so we be see lots of cheap houses this spring have learned wot life is like in north England it’s not all sheep blue sky it cold biter cold ! So from ex acorn bank gardener. Bit adviser do move to north England full time with out do winter. It could cost thousands for Hoilday home for the summer !
The difference with me, is that I don't know when to quit, especially off road, and then I get stuck and have to walk ten miles home after midnight in the pouring rain! 🤣
That was probably one of the local jobbies that had to overtake you. Most of us know to absolutely avoid Hartside if there's the slightest possibility that it might snow. We certainly wouldn't rush it. I suppose, if it does take you by surprise, the best thing IS to keep going but go very, very slowly. Try to turn around - easy to get stuck. It's better to be pointing down hill and trundle along any existing tire tracks there might be.
It's the winter tyres that make the difference between safe and unsafe.
Thanks for sharing.
Winter tyres certainly help but complete safety in snow and ice can never be guaranteed. Extending the two second rule up to 10
seconds may help with thinking and braking distances using engine braking and/or very light cadence braking. ABS won't necessarily deploy any braking improvement but might help control a skid if it's possible to steer into it. It is worth checking the handbook about your ABS and what to do in an emergency...In most situations it helps with the steering by keeping the brake pedal depressed and letting the ABS do its job.Try to avoid gradients and keep going in second gear to reduce unnecessary friction. Front wheel drive works better that rear and 4x4 is preferable to both.Back in the early 70's I kept my stage 2 Mini Cooper going over Exmoor in around 6 inches of fresh snow from near Exford and eventually reached my destination, Barnstaple, several hours later via Bridgewater, the M5,Exeter and the A377 which I knew well and to be relatively flat.
My family were pleased to see me.. No mobile 'phones in those days and any form of rescue was out of the question. Certainly an interesting drive including a several second spell in thick smoke enveloping the 377 in the Crediton area supplied by some thoughtful gardener burning leaves! The Cooper handled brilliantly and I had to stop once or twice to bash ice away from the wheel arches to prevent tyre and brake contact. Also the roof to prevent sizable slabs falling onto either the road or somewhere else. It was a strange feeling shuffling along after Exeter and not a soul in sight and not knowing whether the snow would ever let up and whether the fuel would hold out. I was pleased that I had only recently waterproofed the distributer and replaced the battery. Paddy Hopkirk put the Coopers on the map back in the sixties by winning the Monte Carlo Rallye I think more than once which reinforced my belief that the car would get me home. Fortunately I always keep basic kit and water on board for these situations plus warm clothing and some sort of food. I now drive a Land Rover Freelander 2 which loves the snow but never changes my perception of how uncomfortable things can suddenly get if you are unprepared and don't know what you are doing.
Number 8 Thanks for your comment liked it and for watching.
Very true! Thanks Life Psycle.
@@EdenValleyAdventuresUK Thank you!I enjoyed writing it and it triggered quite a memory!😁👍💕🇬🇧
Glad you made it over without any issues. Thanks for sharing and God bless.
Thanks you mrkentdotcom for watching the video.
It's pretty common here in Cumbria for people to drive far too close behind other cars.
Yes, it happens a lot dents all over cars in Penrith, thanks Crusty Camper.
We used to turn back with Walton taxi on the lay-by at the top of heartside.
Ant Newbon thanks for the comment & watching.
Good locals like you are a god send. So much respect 👍
Thanks very much, I know this road like the back of my hand so when it snow's up on the top It can be very slippery.
Nice of you to stop and help when others didn't. It's a shame so many people are lacking in human decency.
Thank you AvalonDreaming for the nice comment.
I'm enjoying these road trips :)
Thanks very much Oscar Wylder.
Thank you for sharing
JMT thanks very much for watching the video.
fab, thx for sharing x
Thanks very much for watching my friend.
Another top video keep it up
Carl Latimer thank you so much for watching.
It can be properly snowy there. Five winters ago I was overtaken by two German cars on the fast moorland stretch from Alston to Hartside summit in very poor icy conditions with just three inches of snow. Ten minutes later I found each of them with their car bonnets buried deep in 8 foot high piled snow banks at the nasty 180 degree corners on the way down to Penrith that you show in this video. Both said they couldn't stop. Each did thousands in damage to their cars.
Yes, that corner can catch people out if you drive too fast and trying to be clever with your mate's. Thank you Pesmog.
Lucky they didn’t kill themselves or worse someone else.One of the problems with driving in Germany is that there are no speed limits on autobhans and this might reflect reckless driving elsewhere especially in wintery conditions which some drivers think they know all about.
Good winter tyres and a bit of common sense are generally all you need to be safe in these conditions. Always wise to carry a few cold weather provisions as well. Great to see the wally in the black Audi at the beginning driving too fast with no lights on. Some people really need a little accident to shock them into thinking a bit more. There are still a large portion of drivers who are winter tyre sceptics but if you gave them a taste of what a difference they actually make, i'm sure they'd quickly change their viewpoint.
To me, it's common sense to have winter tires on but you have so much of a mixture of weather in the UK that catches people out, thanks Scot for commenting and watching. Have a great New Year.
Haven't been to Hartside for years! I think I'll wait until the Spring before I do though!
Yes the spring sound good thanks Tim Bounds.
certainly getting plenty of storms there mate wow horrendous driving conditions
*a big like👍Au👍always a full watch*
Yes too many storms, haven't been out flying for a week, thanks Billy B.
Nice one fella, looks bleak up there so wrap up warm 👍🏻 I hate squeaking Bosch wipers, mine do it all the time 😬😬
RainX on the screen can help with the squeaks, but not always.
Thanks for that great tip Roger Bull.
yes, I put new wipers on to stop the squeaking, thanks hvee4 for watching.
You have obviously got good experience in travelling in these sort of conditions and stopping to help the people in the white vehicle you are a star. It's good that you are stocked up on food, hot flask of coffee and most important warm clothes for the Winter climate. Stay Safe. Buddy. I will never criticise anyone who are willing to help others.
The road he drives is back of my old. house never go on it with out extra warm clothes sleeping bag lots chocolate in the boot if possible a small camping stove. Just in case you get stuck Cumbria is placed to go out to the shop in winter with out your car prepared ! You see London people buy house. Moving in winter you see them smashed there cars. They last 2 winter. Before there dreams of life in Cumbria is not there ideas of wot they bought in to the road in question is the one worse in the area the cold s exposed but love to move back if I could afford to do so live on top.
Great comment very true what you say, thanks Andreas e.
Thanks very much John Hitchon, I am always prepared for the worst, Thanks again for watching.
I thought that Cumbria was way up North.
"How high up does the real snow start?" ... wonders a curious Canadian.
About 1,900ft Abraham Dozer, thanks for watching.
Has the Hartside Cafe been rebuilt ?
No, not yet, maybe next year? thanks Peter.
What all weather tyres do you use
Firestone all weather tyres £62.99 each Daz Drum and thanks for watching
What vehicle do you use on your storm chasing !!
A Citron C2 Ian.
Keep warm and safe the weather so far this year has been bad this winter. ✌🏼
Peace Drone Thanks very much for watching.
Great normal Cumbrian weather the summer cov19 escape who push house prices up be learning to live with great weather in the area this winter ie it cold difficult to get around and you have plan your life during winter including get about. Wellcome to Cumbria in winter I love it ! But the new ideas people hate it so we be see lots of cheap houses this spring have learned wot life is like in north England it’s not all sheep blue sky it cold biter cold ! So from ex acorn bank gardener. Bit adviser do move to north England full time with out do winter. It could cost thousands for Hoilday home for the summer !
Loved your comment, thanks Andreas e.
It is difficult to drive with this snow! Like from Mallorca Spain
Thanks very much Top Mallorca for watching.
Winter tyres Sir? Great video!
Correct! Winter tyres are great in this weather, thanks very much for watching.
I use to have a set of studded tiers for when the snow came in
I don't think you can get studded tires any more?
Hope you had your Wellies on!
Against the Law now to drive in Wellies! 😂
Yes, they were in the boot David, thanks for watching.
Thanks Judith Jeffrey for commenting.
Stay safe!
Irma indriani thanks, I will.
I should go home mate and stay safe. Don’t put yourselves at risk
Thanks Mark Punt for watching & commenting.
I’m prepared for winter, I have heated seats and a heated windscreen on my Land Rover. 😊
Sound good to me, I also have snow chains just in case. Thanks for watching.
Some people defy logic!!There again when they get their licence from kellogs don't be surprised!!
Thanks for watching loved the comment.
SPOILER ALERT ..................... A slight sprinkling of Snow !!!!! *** THE END ***
I was at top of great Dunn fell when it hit, wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be maybe I should upload it but needs censorship first lol
Good one James W loved your comment.
The difference with me, is that I don't know when to quit, especially off road, and then I get stuck and have to walk ten miles home after midnight in the pouring rain! 🤣
Yes, that has happened to me when I had a 4x4 covered in mud good fun. Thanks Stephen.
Pleased I live on the east coast it’s just raining here Ranulph
Thanks Keith for watching & commenting.
meanwhile its still raining in pissy lancashire
Drake VEVO Thank you for watching, snow for Christmas.
It’s too early for snow. I hate it lol
Yes, you are right there, thanks my friend.
Good video but this is nowt compared to what we had when the Beast from the East hit us here in Nenthead a few years ago That was Real Snow .
Yes, that was very bad as my brother lives at Nent. Thanks Tom for watching.
I guess you don't get.much snow over there..
Not all the time, thanks for watching & commenting.
That was probably one of the local jobbies that had to overtake you. Most of us know to absolutely avoid Hartside if there's the slightest possibility that it might snow. We certainly wouldn't rush it. I suppose, if it does take you by surprise, the best thing IS to keep going but go very, very slowly. Try to turn around - easy to get stuck. It's better to be pointing down hill and trundle along any existing tire tracks there might be.
Yes you are right there Bat in the attic, thank you for watching.
bah just rain for us this time.
Thanks very much leetshots for watching.
Shame we no longer have local police 😭
Yes it is thanks Diamond Derek for watching.
1:30 *Less than 1" (25mm) of snow lets see what it's like - Tip Go to Russia ! **_Global Warming_** and no Electricity for 10 days get used to it !*
Thanks for the comment good one.
Get a LANDROVER DEFENDER/ DISCOVERY/ RANGE ROVER ............. PROBLEM SOLVED !!!!
( But to be fair ..... these were hardly very bad conditions !!! )
Car noise making it very hard to hear you.
Yes, can't help that, but I will see what I can do.
Try to rely on GOD , sir. Nice video.
Thanks you very much for watching sir.