Engines of New York Central - Mohawk
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- The New York Central Railroad was facing a bit of a dilemma at the start of the 20th century. Freight trains were holding up faster passenger trains out on the famed Water Level Route and elsewhere on the NYC system. These freights were often dragged by lumbering and aging 2-8-0s and mixed traffic 4-6-2s weren't providing enough speed and power. The New York Central would hop into the world of 4-8-2 steam motive power. They would nickname these engines "Mohawk" after the Mohawk River which ran along portions of the network. So how did the Mohawks get along on the New York Central Railroad? Find out in this episode!
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I have a former classmate at my old school who’s favorite railroad is the New York Central, and I bet he’ll love this. This channel name is “ThatRedFolkner”
Possibly.
@Mobius1F4 Fire, Smoke and Steam
@Mobius1F4 🖒🖒🖒
ima sub then
I saw his old 97 video!
4:04 - The shape of the builder's plate shows that this loco, 3037, was a product of the Lima Locomotive Works. Alvin Staufer in his book "Steam Power of the New York Central System" writes that also 3100-3124 (L4a) and 3125-3149 (L4b) were Lima-built.
Still amazed there’s actually two of them left. 3001 was straight up lucky getting sold to the T&P before steam on the NYC ended, and 2933 _should've_ been scrapped with the other 598 Mohawks. Shop crews just manger to keep it hidden long enough
The Niagaras and Hudsons weren't so fortunate. It's unfortunate that American citizens weren't as mobilized as the Brits were when it came time to steam preservation.
@@HHopebringer in the case of the NYCRR, blame a certain Mr. Perlman's anti-steam policy...
@SogekingSchofield503 like the only thing that resembles a Hudson is that tender
2933 slightly does resemble a Hudson albeit with the different wheel arrangement.
I'm just glad the the Texas and Pacific railroad was mentioned, as it is my home railroad and I have a lot of personal history with them. It is interesting that a New York Central Mohawk ended up in
Texas. I never knew that
The Texas & Pacific is another beautiful railroad.
If that T&P 2-10-4 hadn't been vandalized to the point where it was scrapped, then NYC 3001 would never have been preserved.
@@WAL_DC-6B unless if both of them survived together, somebody should have saved 3001 and preserved it somewhere before being displayed where it currently is now. And Texas & Pacific 638 would have survived and stay at the same display area today.
Those are my favorite after “The Mohawk wouldn’t quit”
I appreciate the whistle information, and the music choice. Thanks.
It's so interesting how a fleet can go from 300 steam locomotives to none in something like 10 or 20 years.
Development really happens fast.
Awesome! I saw both surviving nyc Mohawks! 2933 and 3001!
I’ve only seen 3001 because she’s closer to where I live.
They almost look like the Hudsons
The New York Central Mohawk is my favorite steam locomotive, as it was the first NYC engine I saw in person.
I have an O gauge Lionel one, great sound, and a lot of power.
*Happy Rodney Noise*
6:38 *angry rodney noises*
They *[REDACTED]* wrecked The Central!
Very informative video. At least two were saved. I can't wait for the Niagara video. In my humble opinion, the epitome of steam power.
Great video! The Mohawks were definitely some fascinating (and good looking) Steam Engines, lol.
I’m glad two of them still stand!
I’ve always admired the 4-8-2 wheel arrangement.
Pretty amazing video of the New York Central Mohawk locomotives. These are another beautiful locomotives. One of my Aunts has a Lionel New York Central Mohawk locomotive No. 3000.
Cool! I have the same one! Its one of my favorite engines
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory thanks. My Aunt also has a Lionel New York Central Commodore Vanderbilt, Reading T1 2100, Western & Atlantic “General” #3, Conrail SD60M, Lionel Lines 2-4-2, Pennsylvania Railroad K4, Reading Iron Heritage 2-8-0, Pennsylvania Railroad 460, and other Lionel models.
I've been looking forward to this
LIMA FOREVER
We have some Bachman dcc Mohawks at the model railroad club I am a part of. They are such reliable engines and easily our must dependable steamers for train shows able to run longer reliably even longer than some diesels
We’ve been waiting for a second episode of this playlist, really good video :D
Wooo! Love me some elephant eared Mohawks! Great video as always, your style and pace works so well to get the information across while being clear and concise! Keep up the awesome work!
Been patiently waiting for this!
Finally, an in-depth video on the famed Mohawks. I have an admiration of the Mohawks, particularly L4b #3135
Does it have something to do with a certain fictional railroad in Colorado?
*He returns!* Great footage and fantastic music towards the middle.
Those Mohawk locomotives were one of the strongest steam trains in the US until the diesels took over and nearly every one of these locomotives were scrapped 🚂💥
For mountain types I’m betting
So glad I got off youtube shorts in order to go watch this
F THE SHORTS
@@OldIronVideo No YT shorts
All my homies hate YT shorts
Thank you for making good videos like this! Good quality, good footage, and very charming voice^^
I like your work, because you provide us with vaulable informations about the forgotten New York Central
Nice I’ve been waiting for this :D
As one who loves the Mohawk 4-8-2s, and owns a rare HO-scale model of an L1, I'm grateful for this video.
Great video with wonderful history
Very informative and some incredible old footage ..thanks for sharing and educating us on this former railroad co.
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Yes, I adore the Mohawks, I saw 2933 in St. Louis in 2018, a real beauty. I especially love the dual-service L-3s and L-4s. 3001 is, in my honest opinion, the luckiest surviving steam locomotive. T&P to the rescue. The only surviving steam locomotive to have pulled the 20th Century Limited.
I saw that one back in April, still a beautiful looking locomotive. Looked recently painted.
Great and unique fact I did wonder when steam locomotives were getting played out but I figured somewhere around the 1950’s steam locomotives transitioning to Diesel locomotives and most locomotives run by electric.
This was the first time I've ever looked into the NY Central's Mohawks and I can safely say they're one of my favorite steam locomotives ever along with NY Central's own Niagara's, their streamlined engines, and UP's FEF-3s.
The return of the King
YES I've been waiting for this
Very well done, thank you.
Wow! This is such a good video, although I do the the Trainz stuff in the videos. But anyways, keep up the good work!
Enjoyed this video as well, no worries about the wait. Glad to see some of the Mohawks survived. As l said in comments section of the previous New York Central Hudson's video, check out the complete reproduction of famous steam locomotives in England ( Doncaster?) With locomotives such as the Tornado rebuilt from scratch.
I heard of this type, but never understood as a child what it meant. Thanks again!
Haven't seen footage like this. Cool!
You make FANTASTIC videos
I'm excited for the Niagara video. This series is so good!
Super cool video with lots of history 👍
Nice Video
I love the Mohawks. They have very cool designs.
I hope one day, the 3001 or 2933 gets restored to operational condition one day.
Love this. Thanks.
I would love too see you cover the JNR steam locomotives
There is a Mohawk locomotive too in New York, Chicago and St Louis better known as the nickel plate road
I have zero clue how I went from a 60’s-90’s railfan to a 1860’s-1930’s railfan. But I’m obsessing over the beauty of steam these days
Hi AmtrakGuy365! I love ur videos!
I'm so happy two New York Central icons have been preserved. 4-8-2s are some of my favorite steam locomotives and the mohawks are no exception
I love this and the engines of Amtrak series! Maybe if I have motivation I might make my own called "Engines of Queensland Rail"
Does anyone else remember The Mohawk that Wouldn’t Quit?
yes
Me!
Me too.
@@nssteampunk4865 3124 for is kinda odd because the look it has is on none of the nyc mohawks 3124 in trainz has smoke deflectors and a feed water heater
Great Video!
I've seen 3001 once. It's sad that she's being kept outside to suffer the blistering heat and frigid cold.
something to note: although the L3 design was successful as dual service, only the L3a ever actually pulled passenger (and freight). L3b and L3c engines were designated as freight only. Source: nycshs
Nice video!
Quite Amazing.
love this new series do his again
Excellent video! Where did you find the source for the clip at 5:14? I’m building a layout centered around that scene at Hiles Tower in New London, Ohio.
Thanks and keep up the great work!
Mohawks on the New York Central Railroad were many called their 4-8-2s in both freight and passenger trains throughout the NYC System.
Amazing episode, can’t wait for more. Also I gotta know which song you used during the rexel drug company section
you should make Engines of NYC for thier electrics too, like the S and P motors they owned, which (correct me if im wrong) were unique to that railroad
great video btw
Every time I see this video, I can't help but be reminded of #HistoryInTheDark and his lampooning of Alfred Perlman, especially about the two surviving Mohawks...
First, I’m a big fan of your videos! I did just want to provide a correction as 3037 you have pictured has a LIMA builder plate which got me looking, as my great grandfather was working there at the time. L-1d 2585-2684, , L3-b 3035-3049 and lastly L4-b 3100-3149 all were built by Lima. Fun fact, the last L4-b order cost the NYC $182,633 for each locomotive. So can’t give ALCO all the credit. Also worth mentioning the NYC was Lima’s best customer with a total of 872 locomotives delivered. Source: Lima the history by Eric Hirsimaki.
Nice Amtrakguy365 also Western Maryland 734 was replaced by C&O 1309 however 734 will be restored also is there any that you can do the NYCs Electric locomotives?
Cool video AmtrakGuy365. My Grandpa as a NTH RailKing L3 Mohawk.
I was in Elkhart just last week! I love seeing 3001
My grandfather operated Mohawks. TD Atlanta
Out of all the 4-8-2's, besides the frisco t-54's, thease are my favorite :)
Yes!
Mohawks are spectacular!
I miss engines of Amtrak thank you
YAY ITS HERE!
hey jared i have a cool idea !
you should complete engines of new york central part 5!!!
Idea for future episode: engines of Amtrak/New York central crossover with the EMD F and E units since both railroads owned those models and even the same individual locomotives.
Oh man I wish you did a video about the NYC A1 Berkshire or NYC K5-b pacific (aka The Mercury)
I love the NYC 4-8-2 Mohawks
Me too.
@@nathancorcoran5347 Same here mine is 3001
Ever since I saw the famed TH-cam series the Mohawk that wouldn't quit I fell in love with the New York Central mohawks, at least some 3124's sisters survives
Just finished watching the Hudson video haha
Nice
just a bit of a heads up, at 4:50 you put the converison rate for inches to milimetres instead of the measurement (driver size). Great video though!
cool video
Damn I bow just realized there is a mohawk at my local train museum
Rodney Kantorski would be happy to see this!!
As of September 11th, 2023 during the monthly city of Elkhart common council meeting it was revealed that a organization from Fort Wayne Indiana (Possibly the Fort Wayne railroad Historical society who currently operates NKP765) has expressed interest and is very close to acquiring NYC 3001 from the city of Elkhart in order to restore it to possibly operating condition to be used in excursions. One of the challenges though is that some members of the city council are opposed to the idea of 3001 leaving because it is an asset to the city and it is this opposition that has killed off past attempts at restoring it.
What is your favorite New York central locomotive.
My favorite NYC steam locomotive would be: New York Central 4-8-2 “Mohawk”.
My favorite NYC diesel locomotive would be: New York Central EMD E9.
My favorite NYC electric locomotive would be: New York Central T-Motor.
I can't wait for the Niagra video
I like the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad 734 2-8-0
Is it ok if you can do the NYC Niagara’s next?
Ngl i feel like a Rexall Train history video would be sick to see, its interesting to see such an odd pairing of a railroad and a drug store company with the outcome being a promo teain with a whole tour
Well done 👏 🚂🚃🇨🇦🇺🇲
“If i had a nickel for every time the NYC named one of their most iconic locomotives after a river, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.”
Ahead of the Niagra video. I've seen photos of Niagaras in operation in the mid 50s heading seasonal passenger trains to Mackinaw City, MI.
It’s ironic that the only surviving versions are Mexican Niagras both in Mexico and one on the New Hope and Ivyland, which is being restored slowly.
I personally would love to see Mohawk 3001 restored and under steam again for excursion service in NYS. Even if it doesn't look the greatest, I hope they are least get it running again. I've been along the Mohawk River before and I think it would be incredible to see one of these things charging down the side of that river.
I think 3001 looks good, though I don’t like the tender design.
Can’t wait for the legendary Niagaras!!!
A lot of people don't know but the st.louis transportation museum has a lot of rare pieces like the Mohawk that you stated but also the other remaining daylight in all black a aero train plus the Y6b I believe could be Y6a I forget. Also Frisco 1522 that use to run back in the day.
The Y is a Y6a
Two of the L4b Mohawks, 3144 and 3148 were fitted with Timken roller bearing rods in the 1940's along with other modifications. They proved to be two of the fasted Mohawks on the system. However, with the coming of the Niagara there was no need to modify any others. MTH Premier has accurately modeled both of those engines in O scale.
I want you to do engines of the union pacific!
Hay do you have a model train collection? If so can you show us?
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