Howdy folks, i'm Onion, from the video. I'll be replying to some comments. I'm frankly surprised to see the amount of support in these comments, considering the amount of hate I tend to get for my opinions. As always, please make sure you do your own research. Even I have my biases, so make sure you know yours. Stay safe!!
Man.... i knew some of the Chinese systems are messed up, but.... oh wait, did i say "some"? That's pretty much ALL i ever heard about the Chinese systems! I hope you're doing fine despite all of it. Comparably you're definitely much worse off, it could all be so so much better, but at least you don't get.... idk, some of the nightmare fuel i keep hearing about.
Sucks to hear you were stuck there. Also, I used to be an ancap (now a minarchist) so I get what you mean about people misinterpreting your ideology. Stay safe dude.
Yo. Anarchists are pretty damned cool to me, I've never met one in-person that didn't strike me as someone who wasn't always trying to learn and understand more. Really wish some of the more community-minded politik worked in America; but then again, most of America doesn't even know the name of it's neighbors.
@@thotslayer9914 From what I've heard, Azeal makes sure to verify the ages and what they are saying is true before interviewing them in a video. Obviously he can't share everything going on with the person's life because of privacy reasons.
Hey, thanks! I get a lot of positive comments about that, but it's still really disheartening when people disregard my thoughts when they hear my age :)
Very cool and interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed all of it. Although I very much disagree with his political stance, it was very cool and pleasant to hear him explain it with reason and arguments that made sense, not just emotion. Very enlightening
That's what happened to Don LaFontaine, the voice of God in movie trailers. His voice broke mid-sentence talking to his mother. In a instant he went from a teenager to a 30 year old man. Don would use his voice to impersonate his father to get out of school.
This was a fascinating listen. Thank you for your time to talk to us about your experience. Your part about surveillance and vans reminded me of something a friend of mine did in college. He named his Wifi "FBI Van #3" and every so often you'd see a neighbor stick their head out of their apartment to scan the streets and parking lots, looking at every car out there.
Norwegian here and I named my mobile hotspot as PST-ST-H#7325 and PST is basically the Norwegian equivalent of NSA (the rest is a fictional unit designation, H for location and a fictional unit number) and I've noticed some odd reactions on the bus and in the street a few times. Never gets old.
i feel particularly conflicted about all this since it really is dystopian and horrifying, especially when you see what the government does to its citizens. i am chinese but i study in the west, so i get to see essentially what the west sees of china and what i can see of china from its media and its terrible. being under constant influence of the western, more open-minded culture makes me feel no more connection to china and the only thing that keeps me constantly checking on it is because my family are still there. if my family immigrates here with me, i will not feel any remorse to see the government be torn down. edit: thanks yall for tuning in on my ted talk and caring for my radical views have a nice day
Hating Communism and authoritarian dictatorships in general is nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, it's something to be quite proud of! Hooray for freedom! Don't take it for granted! Lmao
Man this is probably your most important video. Like other people’s perception of life and their trauma is super important to our perspectives as viewers, but the masses knowing what happens in China is so fucking important in the grand scheme. Can’t stress it enough. This is huge.
China legitimately has a plan for world domination that's been in the works for a long time, and the shit they've been doing the past 20 years is scary to say the least. And people are completely oblivious to it. They're more afraid of Russia right now, than China. When... to put it in WW2 terms, Russia is the modern day Italy, and China is the modern day 3rd Reich. Their military has been advancing rapidly, their military influence has been spreading across the 3rd world, and they have consolidated tight control of their country to the point they are currently committing an ethnic genocide, and their people are unaware. Russia, in the grand scheme of things, is incredibly weak. Their borders are absolutely massive, too massive to properly defend. They are terrified, of NATO surrounding them. Their population is very low, they'll only use nukes if they feel their existence as a nation is threatened. But China? China wants the planet. They've been funding coups in 3rd world nations (kinda like the U.S, except the U.S has far less influence over the nations they do it to than China does. China makes Satraps of these nations.) And preparing for a global war for decades. They've funded infrastructure and political projects around the world that weaken their enemies economically. They currently are funding the construction of a Dam at one of the sources of the Nile River. If completed, it would basically wrought absolute havoc on Egypt and every nation that depends on the Nile. They tried to build a rival to the Panama Canal. They fund politicians and political groups to place people into governments that are sympathetic to them. They actually caught 2 spies before covid started, down in Boston, who were posing as college kids working in the Biology labs on vaccines. They have shit like the Confucius Institute to recruit and radicalize youths In college to communism for the CCP. They have tens of thousands of state actors who's job is to go online and pose as westerners spreading misinformation, conspiracies, and propoganda. Chins has been waging an information war on the American and western people for a decade or more. They are absolutely the biggest threat to the world right now, but nobody seems to know or care. After one starts learning this shit, you get both scared, and angry nobody else does lol. I totally understand those characters in movies now who find out some crazy dark secret and end up looking crazy trying to tell everyone and the crazy appearance ruins their credibility 😆
this kind of thing also happens in the usa too, ESG is a form of social credit here that companies uses, but not in the same level as China, but we are going there soon.
I have friends in China who are not happy with goverment and would love to leave China, but they never speak about details, now I'm more aware why. Btw it's funny how Chinese gov hates Gennshin Impact, mostly Venti who speaks about freedom, lol
i love the game and hate the system of the ccp ruled china (i still beleive taiwan is the real china anyways). yet their HQ can play 2 sides (appease the govt sadly in some propaganda cosplay recently since the image i seen of the great translation movement's insights in twitter had revealed) to just release good games overseas in singapore which we had differing freedoms to play with. i remember my first gacha game Azur Lane skirted censorship despite made by chinese developers had their office in japan (censored skins in china and kid time play restrictions laws)
@@Xx_Oleander_xX At some point Hoyo was attacked for "having feminine men" but mostly pointed out character was Venti because obviously he speaks about freedom. But I didn't hear situation escalated so for now it's quiet
I was disappointed to find it wasn’t a Chinese person you interviewed. I’m in a long distance relationship with a chinese woman, and she lives In Henan province. A couple of weeks ago, her city went on a lockdown and she and her family were ten minutes latefor a government deadline on when you could enter the city , so they couldn’t go home for nearly a week. She was really worried and cried because her was scared they would be homeless. Luckily, one of her relatives let them stay over.
I'm glad your partner is doing fine, these are scary times for a lot of people. I believe it would have been a better perspective to interview a chinese national too, but i'd be afraid for their safety. As a foreigner, i'm at least granted a bit of "immunity" when it comes to speaking openly.
Interesting inside look on the main story, can only imagine the amount of stress that would be involved living a country like that. also on that side bit at the end, while I don't see myself with the same political interests, I do appreciate have the misconception examined.
Absolutely. Life in the west is stressful as it is, with how demanding jobs are and how unforgiving life is. But at least the monitoring and constant exploitation mostly stops once you get to your property, so you can unwind and talk freely, away from whatever facade you need to maintain for the outside world. But in a surveillance state? The pressure never goes away. And worst, its designed to keep you in fear and miss-trust of everyone around you. Literally everyone in your town could think exactly like you do, hate the state and want more liberties... but no one ever meet, talk or acts like they believe it, because of the fear of the consequences. It is why the CCP went ballistic on a fucking yoga movement, because the very idea of people *talking* to each other and exchanging their feelings carried the risk of them realizing their gripes and strife wasn't actually isolated and that EVERYONE was experiencing the same.
Azeal always blows my mind even with the simple stuff. That guy that sounded like a stressed teenager? Yeah, he's helping his daughter fight for her life on a regular basis. That guy that sounds like he's either an ambassador or spy in China? Yeah, that's a teenager.
I kinda feel bad that my main takeaway from this was when he was describing police surveillance vans I just thought of mr crocker’s van from the fairly odd parents
Sooo... Part of me would love to get in touch with this guy, simply bc I want to hear more about his views on anarchism. I love that you let him speak on your platform, & let him get his story out about his time in China, & hearing a random Joe talk about the things that political jockeying has been whispering about behind their hands, & then ‘teehee, no, there’s nothing wrong in Ba Sing Se’ whenever they realise there’s cameras & microphones pointed in their direction, was amazingly refreshing. But, the flip side of that... I know that trying to reach out to him while he’s not only loudly spoken of Tiananmen Square, but also claimed to be an insurrectionist AND an anarchist, after he said his phone was listening in... it’s would endanger not only his life, but that of the rest of the family he’s there with. Instead, I hope he stays safe, & doesn’t attract the kind of attention that would wish him ill, for being brave enough to stand up & proclaim “yeah, nah, these dudes are seriously eff’d up over here”.
this dude seems like a pretty smart kid actually. he made it clear that his family was living in china as a matter of foriegn affairs, so if the chinese government went after him in any super meaningful way it might spark an international incident; he's probably aware of that fact and uses it to buy a bit more leeway than a local citizen might have. regardless, fascinating af person. always good to hear from a fellow anarchist and here's to hoping things ease up for the chinese people sooner than later. if you ever wanna hang out with an anarchist in VRC, hit me up. im more of an anarcho-communist and less into the post-left stuff but the core ideas are pretty similar. don't let the word 'communist' fool you, it's a safe bet that anyone who describes themselves with the 'anarcho' prefix isn't exactly a fan of the CCP
Exactly Anarcho isnt jus chaos, but not centralize goverment. I heard there was a functioning Anarcho state in spain for some month, then got crush by the reafirmed centralize goverment. I am not exactly anarcho myself, but i underestand why it exist and why it excential so there is this mentality in the public that would refrein goverment go all out authoritative, not to mention the coruption that would destroy it hardcore more than the Anarchist themselves. Just watching Merica being self destruct by its goverment this last years has been very educaional.
The far right and far left both have wonderful shows of dystopianism that we can only hope we don’t dive towards; however, countries like the USA and China unfortunately are hellbent on showing which dystopia is superior.
This video is a really good thing that I can show to the people I’ve met who genuinely think China is a good country that does nothing wrong and how communism is the only way forward. I won’t get too political here, it’s just-historically speaking it always has resulted in mass deaths and highly oppressive of every human right to the point where people have to ESCAPE the country in the worst cases
@@Dan_7200 yeahhhh, that and they handled COVID in the most dystopian fashion ever, they expunge things from their history, and basically have a number of elements of the Soviet Union that still exist today, they also return North Korean escapees to North Korea, where they’re almost assuredly killed for treason
Covid did suck when I said I hated school and I didn’t want to go I actually kinda missed seeing people other than my family (not like I’m being rude) but finally covid has sorta gone and we can go out but be careful when with people always wear a mask 😊
Jealous that you’re in a country where it’s gone. Here in the US we still have 1000 copies per mL of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in the average wastewater system. The virus turns out to colonize brain tissue so China sounds nice in the current decade.
Thank you for this, it is hard to comprehend some of what is going on, We are human all of us more the same than different, VRchat and gaming communities having friends all around the world teach you that we are all just people, and it sucks that some are trapped or dealing with this, Governments were always supposed to serve the people not the other way around, keep safe.
I honestly will say be open minded, listen, understand and respect the persons belief, and say what other reasons. I was younger and never listened and get upset, now I honestly don’t care I listen and say what I believe and debate and not scream at each other.
Gotta give kudos to both Azeal and the guest for how you two handled this one. When it comes to these things i find it easier to listen to when people don't get on their soapboxes and are at least moderately aware of their own bias. This was really fascinating.
I have a friend in China who I haven't heard from in a few months, and this just makes me more worried for her... Thank you for educating. I really hope she's okay.
Thanks for the video! Sad that the government turns surveillance to somehow a positive thing there, sounds like a nightmare. Anyhow, wonder how VRchat would continue in the future with all these changes.
I took the "positive thing" quote to mean that they use essentially the same excuse that America did with the PATRIOT Act after 9/11, essentially endless surveillance and unrestrictive state policing under the guide of vague terminology such as "national defense" and "state interests", difference is, they're probably heavily indoctrinated from hearing it all their lives to the point that it's just openly accepted and even appreciated by the nationalist types -- whereas the US government operates more on a system of silence and misdirection.
Exactly, i was a little suprise they just told him "we are watching ALWAYS", usually goverments just hide it all, just recently was expose US has back doors to EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA, project prism wasnt stop.
Lol I’m banned from china and my whole family because my mom worked for the United Nations and she went to go film a comedy movie there and when they reviewed her record they saw that she frequently works for them so they took away her passport and held her there for like 2 weeks until after a while they gave it back and she was able to leave but now everyone in my family are not allowed to go to china.
American's are watched as well. This isn't a tin hat moment. The government may or may not, who knows on that one. But adverts certainly on. Easy experiment to run is talking about a product around your phone. Pick a product, whatever, pet cages or whatever. You'll notice web ads start to drift in that direction, most prominently recommended products on amazon.
i really enjoy these videos and hearing peoples stories, so ty for making them! And does anyone know what the name of the song at the end of the video is? I really like it but I can’t find it for the life of me.
My sister is planning to move to china and now I’m sorta scared for her, she likes her privacy and such, should I bring this up to her? Because this sounds so overbearing
i'll be the lone anarchist correcting him... what he describes as anarchism is specifically "MINarchism" whereas "anarchism" is a super-general school of philosophy with different critiques and solutions which all emphasize "maximum freedom so long as it does not impinge anyone else's freedom" and we all have different ways of interpreting that one-liner.
as a German this reminds me of Nazi era where we were fooled so hard,that we people became mindless zombies to the gouverment. U can see that in alot of movies about NS regime manipulation of people
From what I see in the comments everybody thinks Gen-Z has no idea how to articulate their positions on the political scale, and that tells me how doomed we actually are
GenZ is too worried about finding a place to live, finding a livable wage, and wondering how short their life expectancy is going to be. That right there is the real dystopian shit caused by class warfare.
Did... A "teenager" just refer to covert surveillance as "keeping opsec"? What, is this a child soldier trained by the CIA? Or from Gamboma, Congo, in the elite Trouser Snake child army? (If you get that reference, like and subscribe and God bless Mugabe)
I'm a Chinese citizen living in the capital, but I can confirm that the starving is real. It was indeed managed very poorly, but I'm not sure if people actually starved to death. As a Chinese, I do kinda feel like cops everywhere and cameras everywhere isn't very extreme. I never feel like there are much cops, even coming to think about it in this video. I could be wrong but I'm not very sure. The QR codes you mentioned might be the ones that makes sure if you get covid testing every 3 days or even everyday, but I'm not too sure if that makes the citizens just QR codes to the government. I'm not too sure what that means honestly. Excuse for me English, I'm still not very good at it.
Amazing video, I both learned more in depth about the totalitarian regime of China and about what Anarchism really is, though i may not agree with some points of anarchism I am glad I got to learn more about it and I definitely don't agree with China's regime. Thanks for the video Azeal keep up the good work
What he described in the end is pretty much a working form communism, but the only one, since it is contained in smaller groups or communities, where absolute equality has a higher chance to be achieved
I like how he puts it in words how anarchism works to varying degrees of autonomy and independence, the concept of city's being almost micronations is a concept I believe in as well but I really like how well he's able to explain all that concisely and disprove anarchism being the wild west, being very community centred instead, explained it better than I ever could.
Being someone who dont give an F about politics this was really interesting Everytime there is a debate betwin left and right i just see a group tring to beat the other and forgeting about the people they aere suposed to care about. I still aint gona "become" like this dude but man that was a grouded way of see politics and i kinda dig it
To those who are surprised that a minor sounds so articulate, don’t underestimate Gen Z these guys were born into chaos and have the heir fingertips. I’m on the cusp, genz/millennial, and I’m so impressed with ever gen z kid I’ve ever had a conversation with.
who would be a fan of the chinese government anyways azeal becoming a smart person with ai huh and i do like when people reach out in the comments cause it give’s me the ability to better show my support and try to provide comforting word’s
Given I try to be apolitical and with how things are currently going in America, combined this guy's definition of anarchy, I think I've realized I lean towards being an inactive anarchist.
I love how there is such a breadth of ideas on this channel you genuinely just find people with interesting stories to tell and then give them a platform to tell it I cannot express how important that is you are truly an inspiration.
It was fine letting him ramble for a bit about his anarchy ideas but also thanks for stopping him eventually. Listening to some teenager talk about his fantastical extremist political ideas I can just go on Reddit or Twitter for. The first half of the vid was great though
This person is so right and understands the definition of anarchism, its not chaos that people think this is, if you don't understand look up the real definition of anarchism and you will find the truth.
i don't get it. he pretty much described america except he postfaced alot of things with "Dystopian" themed buzz words and minus the hyper aggressive covid response
God damn, this sounds like a problem Also i get real Beholder vibes from this. I guess it is a pretty similar concept. But overall this was an interesting thing to listen to. Thnx for the vid :)
Well, it's not completely wrong what he said. I mean, I was in Shenzhen and I saw all sorts of "pigs" and the "proprietary" apps are doing all the spying but if you like get a very old Android phone (like Galaxy Note 3) and flash a custom firmware on it, you can use it to do things. Especially the Galaxy Note 3, a phone from 2013, allows you to flash custom Android 11 firmware and when you're not using the payment app or something like that, you can just pull out the battery. If you don't want to turn it off, you basically take it apart (it uses normal Philips screws), destroy the microphones and use headset to call people. Cameras can be covered with a tape which gives you some additional security. What I kinda criticize is the fact that he didn't mention Musically aka. TikTok or as I call it "Chinese Data Farm". Based on the behavior of the app, I can only assume that it's used for spying. What he also forgot to mention is the fact that Google is blocked in China and if you use a VPN to bypass the great China firewall, you get a visit from the "bad guys". Yes, this happened to me but luckily I had two OS's installed on my computer (Windows XP for retro gaming and Linux) and they couldn't find any VPN software on that computer and probably assumed that it was a false positive or something like that 😅 At this point I'm only glad that I was able to return to my country without making the Pooh bear angry or triggering people by saying that Taiwan is a country and I'm really happy that I won't ever visit that country again 😂
Yo this is real interesting my city is one of the twin cities of Shanghai I think it's trade relations or something but yeah most people don't realise what goes on with the Chinese government, my friends farther told me about the things they do to Muslims it's terrible and really messed up.
Laowhy was recently on Jodan Harbinger's podcast, might be worth checking out if you're a fan. I thought it was one of Jordan's better recent episodes, apparently they're personal friends from before he traveled to China.
Glad to see others that watch them too their videos and streams. I feel like they are really educational on what's happening in China plus it just feeds into my curiosity on governments in general.
That guy is totally an english teacher not trying to dox himself. There are like no diplomat families in china for the past 2 years. t. Former esl teacher
So I went to an American school in China. I grew up being educated like an American. I moved to the US in middle school, and have been here since. But growing up in one of the neighborhoods with Bao An at every entrance to the compound was actually really pleasant, granted this was pre-COVID. They opened the gate for you and greet you, making sure the people entering and leaving are safe and supposed to be there. I fully believe that they aren't there to spy on the normal citizens.. what do they have to gain by listening to your daily life? There are much more important people to spy on than commoners like us LOL It's interesting seeing the outsiders' perspective of life in China. I get that with western upbringings (especially with literature class covering 1984 and the like), we learn how extreme communism controls the population. To some minor degree, yes, I too think the morning Yan Bao Jian Caos and big red banners of "Do Well In School, Serve Your Community" are offputting - but isn't mandatory pledging allegiance to the flag in American schools pretty much the same thing? Every country has their way of doing it. I'd like to encourage you to consider why these readings are in every American education system. It's definitely politically charged. I'd like to disclaim that I don't support the way the government is running the country.. I don't like communism, or what America calls "democracy" either. There's always a flaw in every system, and I don't think there's an all encompassing solution to this either.
Hey, i'm the guy in the video. I pretty much agree with you on these points. I frankly really like living in the "compound" community style, it's very cozy. I hope i didn't sound like I was trying to make it sound bad. And for the american school stuff, it sucks that a lot of people in these comments are interpreting my criticism as being pro-america. The way american schools are run is incredibly fucked up and the pro-US, pro-colonial propaganda they push is just as unsettling. Glad you found the video interesting! Stay safe :)
@@ironapega Not all American schools are that Pro-America or Pro-Colonial I'll tell you what. As an American I do love my country, and I like the rules we have, but I hate how they're applied in the modern day and I hate the Federal Govt rn cause they're getting too power hungry.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Its more so corporations that are getting power hungry. One only has to look at the financial backers of each politician to see where their real loyalties lie and that is with the almighty dollar rather than the interest of the American people. Many politicians be they Republican, Democrat, and even some independants take bribes in the form of "political donations" paid through Super PACs and political charities. THat is on top of all the insider trading, shady business deals, etc that utilize the powers of their office to gain an advantage. You know the shit that for any normal person would be a felony and put them in prison for years but nothing is ever done because every politician is sucking each other off.
@@ironapega Hey, thanks for the clarification. I know sometimes everything said in a video could be interpreted in a different way than you intended. I hope people have been civil and respectful in the comments regarding that. It's hard when things can get real political. Appreciate the comment, have a good one!
This video was hilarious, kinda exaggerated in my opinion (or maybe he is extra monitored cuz he's in a diplomat family), but hilariously accurate and kinda sad.
For my own perspective as someone who grew up in the west as a Chinese person, I feel stuck between two worlds. For one, I know that the CPC tends to sit in the darker moral grey zone, but at the same time the general hostility of the west to China puts me off. I've copped my fair share of shit since the pandemic started while minding my own business. My experience with people both IRL and online have made me doubt how genuine people are whenever they say "hate the government, not the people", before going off racist rants and tirades and being applauded for it. Many of the people I've had conversations with on the subject just want to inflict mass deaths on my people (whether through ignorance of what an actual fall of government entails or just plain malice) and using the government as a fig leaf for their antipathy. My trust has been thoroughly eroded by the experience and whenever that phrase comes up the only thing I feel is doubt at the person's intentions. At the same time, having lived there for a bit and spoken extensively to my relatives living there, there's a lot of misinformation on both sides of the aisle, especially due to the language barrier. It's fairly easy to make up information and lie about China and the events that go on there and have it taken at face value. Not to mention that it's one of the few areas where who people can't even read or speak the language (or have never visited or lived there) can be considered an expert in. It's not like most people can check, especially without the ability to read Chinese. In any case, the last few years have made me feel jaded and bitter. While the government in charge of my ancestral homeland isn't one I have much love for, my experiences with those on the ground have thoroughly eroded my faith in people's hearts. The pandemic has changed a great many for the worse. That, or simply emboldened them to drop the mask.
2:45 yep I wholeheartedly agree with that man. And the sad part is most of us who use this technology didn't really have a say in it because a lot of us were toddlers as they passed stuff like the "Patriot" act. Edit: oh yeah I forgot to ask (the guest) if you happen to see this comment what is your opinion or story on what is happening with the mortgage crisis over there right now.
I really get where you're coming from with Anarchism allowing people to more directly address their problems. The problem that you will face is disunity. Famously Classical Greek, Renaissance Italy, and the HRE are the closest historical examples to this. While these city-states did great things we saw their very apparent weaknesses. The class structure skeevy politics and abuse of the poor never went away. These states were also victims to just devastating conflicts that they did not have the means to resist. You can see this in Greece with Macedon or Rome, In Germany and Italy suffering from French invasions. Internal conflicts like the 30 years war or the Peloponnesian war led to the death of entire cities. In the end, the last bunches of city-states in Germany and Italy were forced to band together in order to compete with more centralized powers. It sounds nice but the fact is that survival must come first when forming a society. Just consider the US breaking down into local governments while China held together. What would that do to the world?
If a revolution doesn't happen first that brings power back into the people's hands. We must play smart to the fact that if the US falls, China wins. No one would be able to stop it.
I don't fault this guy for his beliefs. What I do fault, is the underlying idea that if we gave people like him an area of land the size of Cyprus or Rhodes or Malta, that they wouldn't be happy with it, because every time they describe their ideal future, it usually involves the world. Man, if you want an island with all your anarchist friends and you want to make an anarchist micronation, I bet that would he an absolute hit. But when you get people who believe in a violent revolution or uprising... The American Revolution, was by no means normal. At all. It was a one in a million, "holy shit I can't believe that worked" kind of thing. The founding fathers led a violent revolutionary uprising against a major world power, they _won_ and then they created a successful and free nation. When you study enough history, and start racking up knowledge of rebellions, revolutions and uprisings, you start to see just how many end up either failing, or becoming totalitarian Dictatorships or minor kingdoms before soon being destroyed or replaced. Once the killing begins, by the time it's over you're desensitized to it. Suddenly it becomes easy to kill dissidents than to craft a working legislative and legal system. Courts are hard, they take up time and money and maybe the guilty go free. But the wall? The wall is quick and what's one more kill to add to your hundreds? It almost always goes that way, and all it takes is one man in a position of power to say "I could go from being a general to a farmer with nothing... or I could be the ruler of a nation with money, power and pussy..." and suddenly your glorious revolution has become another Dictatorship. Anarchism is fine enough on a small scale when you have *only* people who are 100% on board with the cause. But it fundamentally ignores or denies human nature to imagine its ideal outcome. Direct democracies are the incubators of tyranny and the mothers of Demagouges
Interesting train of thought at the end there, im a constitutionalist and a heavy believer jn what the US was founded appon, but ive always been on board with county governing isnstead of State and federal governing. Think the US is to big and to diverse so it needs to be done by area.
So you're for small govt rather than centralized federal govt. That is wishful thinking at best because without a strong federal govt the US would literally fall apart at the seams and would have never become as strong as it is today. Small govt is generally great in the short term but long term its extremely weak to external forces like other countries.
As someone that’s Chinese and in China right now I can confirm a lot of the things this guy has said. It really is super strict here and it’s really creepy sometimes. I’m in Beijing so the situation is definitely better than Shanghai but it’s still not the best. I can answer some questions as well hehe I honestly hope anyone from the government sees this lol
So, here in Brazil there's some left leaning economists that praise china for ending extreme poverty, while the US and Brazil suck at that. I'm wondering if they're right about what they say, if it's really a situation of freedom versus no poverty and balanced economy... They also say that anti-china propaganda spread by the US greatly contaminates the general consensus of the people around the world. Are they too biased?
@@gradient5319 While some people do say that China has ended poverty I think it’s not exactly the truth. China is trying to help some of the villages that are relatively poor but you can still find people who live in terrible conditions. It’s similar to a lot of countries where they tried but it didn’t completely work. About the propaganda question, I have seen some newspapers that do spread propaganda but something’s are true. They do the same in China as well. So if you want unbiased news you have to do your own research in a way. So to answer your question they aren’t exactly biased but at the same time some are it just depends. I hope this helps
Howdy folks, i'm Onion, from the video. I'll be replying to some comments. I'm frankly surprised to see the amount of support in these comments, considering the amount of hate I tend to get for my opinions.
As always, please make sure you do your own research. Even I have my biases, so make sure you know yours. Stay safe!!
can confirm this is him!
Man… Just holy shit about all this and I’m glad you’re ok!
Man.... i knew some of the Chinese systems are messed up, but.... oh wait, did i say "some"? That's pretty much ALL i ever heard about the Chinese systems!
I hope you're doing fine despite all of it. Comparably you're definitely much worse off, it could all be so so much better, but at least you don't get.... idk, some of the nightmare fuel i keep hearing about.
Sucks to hear you were stuck there. Also, I used to be an ancap (now a minarchist) so I get what you mean about people misinterpreting your ideology. Stay safe dude.
Yo. Anarchists are pretty damned cool to me, I've never met one in-person that didn't strike me as someone who wasn't always trying to learn and understand more.
Really wish some of the more community-minded politik worked in America; but then again, most of America doesn't even know the name of it's neighbors.
This guy is a minor? He sounds so articulate. I know 60 year olds who don't have this level of maturity.
Ikr!
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From what I've heard, Azeal makes sure to verify the ages and what they are saying is true before interviewing them in a video.
Obviously he can't share everything going on with the person's life because of privacy reasons.
Trauma can cause people to either regress in maturity or make people grow up quicker. Its weird how the brain works to protect the body.
Hey, thanks! I get a lot of positive comments about that, but it's still really disheartening when people disregard my thoughts when they hear my age :)
Onions my friend and dude is like, a 30 year old jaded man in a 16 year olds body. He’s the best
I'm trying to write a story about a dystopian country and your story will make my story more accurate to actual dictatorship. Glad I listened to this
Good luck with your story!
What he said his age was: less than 18
What his voice says his age is: 35 smoking since 18
People said I sounded like this when I was 17 calling them
Maybe he started smoking earlier?
From Indiana, US. Thanks for sharing, I've always wondered what china's totalitarian state was like
8:44 literally just the black car that chases crazy frog around
Very cool and interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed all of it. Although I very much disagree with his political stance, it was very cool and pleasant to hear him explain it with reason and arguments that made sense, not just emotion. Very enlightening
"I'm still technically a minor"
He has the voice of a 40 year-old holy crap
That's what happened to Don LaFontaine, the voice of God in movie trailers. His voice broke mid-sentence talking to his mother. In a instant he went from a teenager to a 30 year old man. Don would use his voice to impersonate his father to get out of school.
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@@shawmiserix404 What were you screaming about for your voice to break?
This was a fascinating listen. Thank you for your time to talk to us about your experience. Your part about surveillance and vans reminded me of something a friend of mine did in college. He named his Wifi "FBI Van #3" and every so often you'd see a neighbor stick their head out of their apartment to scan the streets and parking lots, looking at every car out there.
LOL your friend sounds like a blast
lmao that’s a funny
my wifi used to be FBI Surveillance Van
i need to do that lmao
Norwegian here and I named my mobile hotspot as PST-ST-H#7325 and PST is basically the Norwegian equivalent of NSA (the rest is a fictional unit designation, H for location and a fictional unit number) and I've noticed some odd reactions on the bus and in the street a few times. Never gets old.
i feel particularly conflicted about all this since it really is dystopian and horrifying, especially when you see what the government does to its citizens. i am chinese but i study in the west, so i get to see essentially what the west sees of china and what i can see of china from its media and its terrible. being under constant influence of the western, more open-minded culture makes me feel no more connection to china and the only thing that keeps me constantly checking on it is because my family are still there. if my family immigrates here with me, i will not feel any remorse to see the government be torn down.
edit: thanks yall for tuning in on my ted talk and caring for my radical views have a nice day
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I wish u all the best. I pray it falls along with corrupted gov like Canada that loves ccp. Les gov period
Same feeling here. But my family is in vn. It's not as bad as China, but it's still not great to say the least.
Hating Communism and authoritarian dictatorships in general is nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, it's something to be quite proud of! Hooray for freedom! Don't take it for granted! Lmao
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Ok, if this guy is still living in china when he said All of this I’m not going to be surprised if he sees the police at his door.
I was thinking this the whole time
Have you heard about Michel and Michel ?
@@DrunkenDove Psh, like Canada's leadership would give a damn. Trudeau *wishes* he could be that authoritarian.
Hes there with a foreign affairs reason from his folks, i think China can really do much without pissing off royally the place where he's from.
@@DrunkenDove yeah that would be one hell of a diplomatic accident
Man this is probably your most important video. Like other people’s perception of life and their trauma is super important to our perspectives as viewers, but the masses knowing what happens in China is so fucking important in the grand scheme. Can’t stress it enough. This is huge.
China legitimately has a plan for world domination that's been in the works for a long time, and the shit they've been doing the past 20 years is scary to say the least.
And people are completely oblivious to it. They're more afraid of Russia right now, than China. When... to put it in WW2 terms, Russia is the modern day Italy, and China is the modern day 3rd Reich. Their military has been advancing rapidly, their military influence has been spreading across the 3rd world, and they have consolidated tight control of their country to the point they are currently committing an ethnic genocide, and their people are unaware.
Russia, in the grand scheme of things, is incredibly weak. Their borders are absolutely massive, too massive to properly defend. They are terrified, of NATO surrounding them. Their population is very low, they'll only use nukes if they feel their existence as a nation is threatened.
But China? China wants the planet. They've been funding coups in 3rd world nations (kinda like the U.S, except the U.S has far less influence over the nations they do it to than China does. China makes Satraps of these nations.) And preparing for a global war for decades. They've funded infrastructure and political projects around the world that weaken their enemies economically. They currently are funding the construction of a Dam at one of the sources of the Nile River. If completed, it would basically wrought absolute havoc on Egypt and every nation that depends on the Nile.
They tried to build a rival to the Panama Canal. They fund politicians and political groups to place people into governments that are sympathetic to them. They actually caught 2 spies before covid started, down in Boston, who were posing as college kids working in the Biology labs on vaccines. They have shit like the Confucius Institute to recruit and radicalize youths In college to communism for the CCP. They have tens of thousands of state actors who's job is to go online and pose as westerners spreading misinformation, conspiracies, and propoganda.
Chins has been waging an information war on the American and western people for a decade or more. They are absolutely the biggest threat to the world right now, but nobody seems to know or care.
After one starts learning this shit, you get both scared, and angry nobody else does lol. I totally understand those characters in movies now who find out some crazy dark secret and end up looking crazy trying to tell everyone and the crazy appearance ruins their credibility 😆
this kind of thing also happens in the usa too, ESG is a form of social credit here that companies uses, but not in the same level as China, but we are going there soon.
This has to be my favorite VR chat channel. Somehow Azel finds some of the most interesting people great video as always you never fail to deliver!
thank you!
I have friends in China who are not happy with goverment and would love to leave China, but they never speak about details, now I'm more aware why.
Btw it's funny how Chinese gov hates Gennshin Impact, mostly Venti who speaks about freedom, lol
i love the game and hate the system of the ccp ruled china (i still beleive taiwan is the real china anyways). yet their HQ can play 2 sides (appease the govt sadly in some propaganda cosplay recently since the image i seen of the great translation movement's insights in twitter had revealed) to just release good games overseas in singapore which we had differing freedoms to play with. i remember my first gacha game Azur Lane skirted censorship despite made by chinese developers had their office in japan (censored skins in china and kid time play restrictions laws)
Im low key surprised Hoyo isnt in trouble for having Venti in the game
@@Xx_Oleander_xX At some point Hoyo was attacked for "having feminine men" but mostly pointed out character was Venti because obviously he speaks about freedom. But I didn't hear situation escalated so for now it's quiet
I was disappointed to find it wasn’t a Chinese person you interviewed. I’m in a long distance relationship with a chinese woman, and she lives In Henan province. A couple of weeks ago, her city went on a lockdown and she and her family were ten minutes latefor a government deadline on when you could enter the city , so they couldn’t go home for nearly a week. She was really worried and cried because her was scared they would be homeless. Luckily, one of her relatives let them stay over.
I'm glad your partner is doing fine, these are scary times for a lot of people.
I believe it would have been a better perspective to interview a chinese national too, but i'd be afraid for their safety. As a foreigner, i'm at least granted a bit of "immunity" when it comes to speaking openly.
If its getting serious then I'd start looking into getting her out.
Interesting inside look on the main story, can only imagine the amount of stress that would be involved living a country like that. also on that side bit at the end, while I don't see myself with the same political interests, I do appreciate have the misconception examined.
Absolutely.
Life in the west is stressful as it is, with how demanding jobs are and how unforgiving life is. But at least the monitoring and constant exploitation mostly stops once you get to your property, so you can unwind and talk freely, away from whatever facade you need to maintain for the outside world.
But in a surveillance state? The pressure never goes away. And worst, its designed to keep you in fear and miss-trust of everyone around you. Literally everyone in your town could think exactly like you do, hate the state and want more liberties... but no one ever meet, talk or acts like they believe it, because of the fear of the consequences. It is why the CCP went ballistic on a fucking yoga movement, because the very idea of people *talking* to each other and exchanging their feelings carried the risk of them realizing their gripes and strife wasn't actually isolated and that EVERYONE was experiencing the same.
Azeal always blows my mind even with the simple stuff. That guy that sounded like a stressed teenager? Yeah, he's helping his daughter fight for her life on a regular basis. That guy that sounds like he's either an ambassador or spy in China? Yeah, that's a teenager.
The guy you probably talk to on TF2 lobby? Ya hes a bounty hunter. Quite intresting to see for me
What do you mean?
I kinda feel bad that my main takeaway from this was when he was describing police surveillance vans I just thought of mr crocker’s van from the fairly odd parents
Oh hi :)
Sooo... Part of me would love to get in touch with this guy, simply bc I want to hear more about his views on anarchism. I love that you let him speak on your platform, & let him get his story out about his time in China, & hearing a random Joe talk about the things that political jockeying has been whispering about behind their hands, & then ‘teehee, no, there’s nothing wrong in Ba Sing Se’ whenever they realise there’s cameras & microphones pointed in their direction, was amazingly refreshing.
But, the flip side of that... I know that trying to reach out to him while he’s not only loudly spoken of Tiananmen Square, but also claimed to be an insurrectionist AND an anarchist, after he said his phone was listening in... it’s would endanger not only his life, but that of the rest of the family he’s there with.
Instead, I hope he stays safe, & doesn’t attract the kind of attention that would wish him ill, for being brave enough to stand up & proclaim “yeah, nah, these dudes are seriously eff’d up over here”.
this dude seems like a pretty smart kid actually. he made it clear that his family was living in china as a matter of foriegn affairs, so if the chinese government went after him in any super meaningful way it might spark an international incident; he's probably aware of that fact and uses it to buy a bit more leeway than a local citizen might have.
regardless, fascinating af person. always good to hear from a fellow anarchist and here's to hoping things ease up for the chinese people sooner than later. if you ever wanna hang out with an anarchist in VRC, hit me up. im more of an anarcho-communist and less into the post-left stuff but the core ideas are pretty similar. don't let the word
'communist' fool you, it's a safe bet that anyone who describes themselves with the 'anarcho' prefix isn't exactly a fan of the CCP
Exactly
Anarcho isnt jus chaos, but not centralize goverment.
I heard there was a functioning Anarcho state in spain for some month, then got crush by the reafirmed centralize goverment.
I am not exactly anarcho myself, but i underestand why it exist and why it excential so there is this mentality in the public that would refrein goverment go all out authoritative, not to mention the coruption that would destroy it hardcore more than the Anarchist themselves.
Just watching Merica being self destruct by its goverment this last years has been very educaional.
The far right and far left both have wonderful shows of dystopianism that we can only hope we don’t dive towards; however, countries like the USA and China unfortunately are hellbent on showing which dystopia is superior.
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The vid is fucking amazing, Good Work👏👏
"still technically a minor" he sounds like he's 50
This video is a really good thing that I can show to the people I’ve met who genuinely think China is a good country that does nothing wrong and how communism is the only way forward.
I won’t get too political here, it’s just-historically speaking it always has resulted in mass deaths and highly oppressive of every human right to the point where people have to ESCAPE the country in the worst cases
People in my class think the same and they were surprised when I told them that they still have the equivalent of concentration camps there
@@Dan_7200 yeahhhh, that and they handled COVID in the most dystopian fashion ever, they expunge things from their history, and basically have a number of elements of the Soviet Union that still exist today, they also return North Korean escapees to North Korea, where they’re almost assuredly killed for treason
or worse, get sent to the "re-education camps", or simply "disappeared"
Covid did suck when I said I hated school and I didn’t want to go I actually kinda missed seeing people other than my family (not like I’m being rude) but finally covid has sorta gone and we can go out but be careful when with people always wear a mask 😊
Jealous that you’re in a country where it’s gone. Here in the US we still have 1000 copies per mL of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in the average wastewater system. The virus turns out to colonize brain tissue so China sounds nice in the current decade.
@@minRef oh.. I’m sorry about that hope the lord protects you from this covid and i wish that to your families and friends
This guy is great at adding humor into his (already good) storytelling skills
but jesus christ china is insane
Communist are insane and chima is communist.
Very Intresting Story i like it, keep going bro and Take Care
PS your Captain Alex ⛵🌊
Thank you for this, it is hard to comprehend some of what is going on, We are human all of us more the same than different, VRchat and gaming communities having friends all around the world teach you that we are all just people, and it sucks that some are trapped or dealing with this, Governments were always supposed to serve the people not the other way around, keep safe.
I honestly will say be open minded, listen, understand and respect the persons belief, and say what other reasons.
I was younger and never listened and get upset, now I honestly don’t care I listen and say what I believe and debate and not scream at each other.
Gotta give kudos to both Azeal and the guest for how you two handled this one. When it comes to these things i find it easier to listen to when people don't get on their soapboxes and are at least moderately aware of their own bias. This was really fascinating.
I have a friend in China who I haven't heard from in a few months, and this just makes me more worried for her... Thank you for educating. I really hope she's okay.
Thanks for the video! Sad that the government turns surveillance to somehow a positive thing there, sounds like a nightmare.
Anyhow, wonder how VRchat would continue in the future with all these changes.
I took the "positive thing" quote to mean that they use essentially the same excuse that America did with the PATRIOT Act after 9/11, essentially endless surveillance and unrestrictive state policing under the guide of vague terminology such as "national defense" and "state interests", difference is, they're probably heavily indoctrinated from hearing it all their lives to the point that it's just openly accepted and even appreciated by the nationalist types -- whereas the US government operates more on a system of silence and misdirection.
Exactly, i was a little suprise they just told him "we are watching ALWAYS", usually goverments just hide it all, just recently was expose US has back doors to EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA, project prism wasnt stop.
Lol I’m banned from china and my whole family because my mom worked for the United Nations and she went to go film a comedy movie there and when they reviewed her record they saw that she frequently works for them so they took away her passport and held her there for like 2 weeks until after a while they gave it back and she was able to leave but now everyone in my family are not allowed to go to china.
Oh wow-
American's are watched as well. This isn't a tin hat moment. The government may or may not, who knows on that one. But adverts certainly on. Easy experiment to run is talking about a product around your phone. Pick a product, whatever, pet cages or whatever. You'll notice web ads start to drift in that direction, most prominently recommended products on amazon.
You don't even need to do that. Look up edward snowden's leaks.
The CIA blatantly stated they had drones over some of the riots of 2020, we know.
Unless you have incognito mode on
"I don't wanna make the 1984 refrence...." but it's LITERALLY 1984 in this bitch
i really enjoy these videos and hearing peoples stories, so ty for making them! And does anyone know what the name of the song at the end of the video is? I really like it but I can’t find it for the life of me.
Hearing all these stories I just want to give all them a big hug. My only "threat" to you Sir is me and my arms giving you a giant vr hug
Oh canada .... we aren't doing well either
on his leg there are letters "люб" that probably continues as "любовь" that means "love" in Russian
edit: 23:07, it is 99% means "i love"
My sister is planning to move to china and now I’m sorta scared for her, she likes her privacy and such, should I bring this up to her? Because this sounds so overbearing
Yes do it please
Yes
i'll be the lone anarchist correcting him...
what he describes as anarchism is specifically "MINarchism" whereas "anarchism" is a super-general school of philosophy with different critiques and solutions which all emphasize "maximum freedom so long as it does not impinge anyone else's freedom" and we all have different ways of interpreting that one-liner.
as a German this reminds me of Nazi era where we were fooled so hard,that we people became mindless zombies to the gouverment.
U can see that in alot of movies about NS regime manipulation of people
From what I see in the comments everybody thinks Gen-Z has no idea how to articulate their positions on the political scale, and that tells me how doomed we actually are
GenZ is too worried about finding a place to live, finding a livable wage, and wondering how short their life expectancy is going to be. That right there is the real dystopian shit caused by class warfare.
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Did... A "teenager" just refer to covert surveillance as "keeping opsec"?
What, is this a child soldier trained by the CIA? Or from Gamboma, Congo, in the elite Trouser Snake child army?
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Now I’m imagining a guy in dark souls cosplay fighting the cops that get harder and harder to defeat with new tier of cop rushing in
I'm a Chinese citizen living in the capital, but I can confirm that the starving is real. It was indeed managed very poorly, but I'm not sure if people actually starved to death.
As a Chinese, I do kinda feel like cops everywhere and cameras everywhere isn't very extreme. I never feel like there are much cops, even coming to think about it in this video. I could be wrong but I'm not very sure.
The QR codes you mentioned might be the ones that makes sure if you get covid testing every 3 days or even everyday, but I'm not too sure if that makes the citizens just QR codes to the government. I'm not too sure what that means honestly. Excuse for me English, I'm still not very good at it.
Your English was fine don’t let it bother hou
Amazing video, I both learned more in depth about the totalitarian regime of China and about what Anarchism really is, though i may not agree with some points of anarchism I am glad I got to learn more about it and I definitely don't agree with China's regime. Thanks for the video Azeal keep up the good work
What he described in the end is pretty much a working form communism, but the only one, since it is contained in smaller groups or communities, where absolute equality has a higher chance to be achieved
I like how he puts it in words how anarchism works to varying degrees of autonomy and independence, the concept of city's being almost micronations is a concept I believe in as well but I really like how well he's able to explain all that concisely and disprove anarchism being the wild west, being very community centred instead, explained it better than I ever could.
“I’m technically a minor.” …what like in choir ?
Being someone who dont give an F about politics this was really interesting
Everytime there is a debate betwin left and right i just see a group tring to beat the other and forgeting about the people they aere suposed to care about.
I still aint gona "become" like this dude but man that was a grouded way of see politics and i kinda dig it
To those who are surprised that a minor sounds so articulate, don’t underestimate Gen Z these guys were born into chaos and have the heir fingertips. I’m on the cusp, genz/millennial, and I’m so impressed with ever gen z kid I’ve ever had a conversation with.
They frown at me alot like everybody else ....I hate everyone in the nicest way .
who would be a fan of the chinese government anyways azeal becoming a smart person with ai huh and i do like when people reach out in the comments cause it give’s me the ability to better show my support and try to provide comforting word’s
Learned something from this: don’t move to a totalitarian country during a global pandemic.
In the east you are a number, in the west you're just a wallet
America is not perfect. But remember people who live in these countries pray that they could live here.
Given I try to be apolitical and with how things are currently going in America, combined this guy's definition of anarchy, I think I've realized I lean towards being an inactive anarchist.
I love how there is such a breadth of ideas on this channel you genuinely just find people with interesting stories to tell and then give them a platform to tell it I cannot express how important that is you are truly an inspiration.
Been really looking forward to this, so glad it's finally out. This is SO interesting. Thanks for talking about it! Very much enjoyed this video :))
It was fine letting him ramble for a bit about his anarchy ideas but also thanks for stopping him eventually. Listening to some teenager talk about his fantastical extremist political ideas I can just go on Reddit or Twitter for. The first half of the vid was great though
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@@fencingfireferret1188 Interesting, no rainbow flags?
Hell yeah, post left anarchism!
23:46 that made me laugh more than it probably should've
Rule 1. Never trust a commie
This guy should come back just so we can hear more of his views on anarchist
Great chat. He's funny. N now it makes sensecy left is insane n doesn't seem like regular left lol
This person is so right and understands the definition of anarchism, its not chaos that people think this is, if you don't understand look up the real definition of anarchism and you will find the truth.
I’d love to hear more from this well spoken man
i don't get it. he pretty much described america except he postfaced alot of things with "Dystopian" themed buzz words and minus the hyper aggressive covid response
God damn, this sounds like a problem
Also i get real Beholder vibes from this. I guess it is a pretty similar concept.
But overall this was an interesting thing to listen to. Thnx for the vid :)
American is not the same as English. If you were speaking American you'd be talking loudly about guns and politics. You know the usual stereotypes
Did people forget about Snowden already?
Well, it's not completely wrong what he said.
I mean, I was in Shenzhen and I saw all sorts of "pigs" and the "proprietary" apps are doing all the spying but if you like get a very old Android phone (like Galaxy Note 3) and flash a custom firmware on it, you can use it to do things. Especially the Galaxy Note 3, a phone from 2013, allows you to flash custom Android 11 firmware and when you're not using the payment app or something like that, you can just pull out the battery. If you don't want to turn it off, you basically take it apart (it uses normal Philips screws), destroy the microphones and use headset to call people. Cameras can be covered with a tape which gives you some additional security.
What I kinda criticize is the fact that he didn't mention Musically aka. TikTok or as I call it "Chinese Data Farm". Based on the behavior of the app, I can only assume that it's used for spying.
What he also forgot to mention is the fact that Google is blocked in China and if you use a VPN to bypass the great China firewall, you get a visit from the "bad guys".
Yes, this happened to me but luckily I had two OS's installed on my computer (Windows XP for retro gaming and Linux) and they couldn't find any VPN software on that computer and probably assumed that it was a false positive or something like that 😅
At this point I'm only glad that I was able to return to my country without making the Pooh bear angry or triggering people by saying that Taiwan is a country and I'm really happy that I won't ever visit that country again 😂
Yo this is real interesting my city is one of the twin cities of Shanghai I think it's trade relations or something but yeah most people don't realise what goes on with the Chinese government, my friends farther told me about the things they do to Muslims it's terrible and really messed up.
Also yeah people definitely need to understand that China and definitely Russia do not represent communism at all they left that behind along time ago
Everyone going on about his voice and here I am listening remembering how my voice dropped to its current octave at 10 years old.
I watch a lot of laowhy86, serpentza and china insights, theyre really good independant journalists for getting a good idea of whats going on in China
Laowhy was recently on Jodan Harbinger's podcast, might be worth checking out if you're a fan. I thought it was one of Jordan's better recent episodes, apparently they're personal friends from before he traveled to China.
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@@eyeballpapercut4400 50cent army don't want to touch this with their 2-inch poles
Glad to see others that watch them too their videos and streams. I feel like they are really educational on what's happening in China plus it just feeds into my curiosity on governments in general.
@@petemoss3160 welp it's been nearly a week I guess the coast is clear
pls no jinx pls no jinx pls no jinx
Good God he has no idea. He attributed democratic socialism and libertarianism? Sounds like post left anarchism is Liberitarianism with extra steps
That guy is totally an english teacher not trying to dox himself. There are like no diplomat families in china for the past 2 years.
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So I went to an American school in China. I grew up being educated like an American. I moved to the US in middle school, and have been here since.
But growing up in one of the neighborhoods with Bao An at every entrance to the compound was actually really pleasant, granted this was pre-COVID. They opened the gate for you and greet you, making sure the people entering and leaving are safe and supposed to be there. I fully believe that they aren't there to spy on the normal citizens.. what do they have to gain by listening to your daily life? There are much more important people to spy on than commoners like us LOL
It's interesting seeing the outsiders' perspective of life in China. I get that with western upbringings (especially with literature class covering 1984 and the like), we learn how extreme communism controls the population. To some minor degree, yes, I too think the morning Yan Bao Jian Caos and big red banners of "Do Well In School, Serve Your Community" are offputting - but isn't mandatory pledging allegiance to the flag in American schools pretty much the same thing? Every country has their way of doing it.
I'd like to encourage you to consider why these readings are in every American education system. It's definitely politically charged.
I'd like to disclaim that I don't support the way the government is running the country.. I don't like communism, or what America calls "democracy" either. There's always a flaw in every system, and I don't think there's an all encompassing solution to this either.
Hey, i'm the guy in the video.
I pretty much agree with you on these points. I frankly really like living in the "compound" community style, it's very cozy. I hope i didn't sound like I was trying to make it sound bad.
And for the american school stuff, it sucks that a lot of people in these comments are interpreting my criticism as being pro-america. The way american schools are run is incredibly fucked up and the pro-US, pro-colonial propaganda they push is just as unsettling.
Glad you found the video interesting! Stay safe :)
@@ironapega Not all American schools are that Pro-America or Pro-Colonial I'll tell you what. As an American I do love my country, and I like the rules we have, but I hate how they're applied in the modern day and I hate the Federal Govt rn cause they're getting too power hungry.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Its more so corporations that are getting power hungry. One only has to look at the financial backers of each politician to see where their real loyalties lie and that is with the almighty dollar rather than the interest of the American people. Many politicians be they Republican, Democrat, and even some independants take bribes in the form of "political donations" paid through Super PACs and political charities.
THat is on top of all the insider trading, shady business deals, etc that utilize the powers of their office to gain an advantage. You know the shit that for any normal person would be a felony and put them in prison for years but nothing is ever done because every politician is sucking each other off.
@@ironapega Hey, thanks for the clarification. I know sometimes everything said in a video could be interpreted in a different way than you intended. I hope people have been civil and respectful in the comments regarding that. It's hard when things can get real political.
Appreciate the comment, have a good one!
This guy sounds just like Bojack Horseman
Imagine being schyzofrenic in china, when the walls are REALLY listen
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"It genuinely felt like an apocalypse" It's so far beyond that.
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Thank you so much!
So his phone is listening to what he was saying in this video. Is he okay? ^^"
So far so good!
Yeah the “failed state” term I think applies to countries that have a collapsed economy OR fail to meet the needs of the people living in the country.
This video was hilarious, kinda exaggerated in my opinion (or maybe he is extra monitored cuz he's in a diplomat family), but hilariously accurate and kinda sad.
Thank you for making this. There couldn't have been a better time for me to be seeing this.
Because these videos are not really all that interesting video wise (as in visual) this would be great on spotify as a podcast.
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For my own perspective as someone who grew up in the west as a Chinese person, I feel stuck between two worlds. For one, I know that the CPC tends to sit in the darker moral grey zone, but at the same time the general hostility of the west to China puts me off. I've copped my fair share of shit since the pandemic started while minding my own business. My experience with people both IRL and online have made me doubt how genuine people are whenever they say "hate the government, not the people", before going off racist rants and tirades and being applauded for it. Many of the people I've had conversations with on the subject just want to inflict mass deaths on my people (whether through ignorance of what an actual fall of government entails or just plain malice) and using the government as a fig leaf for their antipathy. My trust has been thoroughly eroded by the experience and whenever that phrase comes up the only thing I feel is doubt at the person's intentions.
At the same time, having lived there for a bit and spoken extensively to my relatives living there, there's a lot of misinformation on both sides of the aisle, especially due to the language barrier. It's fairly easy to make up information and lie about China and the events that go on there and have it taken at face value. Not to mention that it's one of the few areas where who people can't even read or speak the language (or have never visited or lived there) can be considered an expert in. It's not like most people can check, especially without the ability to read Chinese.
In any case, the last few years have made me feel jaded and bitter. While the government in charge of my ancestral homeland isn't one I have much love for, my experiences with those on the ground have thoroughly eroded my faith in people's hearts. The pandemic has changed a great many for the worse. That, or simply emboldened them to drop the mask.
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Kudos to that guy for speaking out. I hope him and his family are safe.
Azeal I never get board with you or any of your guest speakers, you always keep it interesting.
2:45 yep I wholeheartedly agree with that man. And the sad part is most of us who use this technology didn't really have a say in it because a lot of us were toddlers as they passed stuff like the "Patriot" act.
Edit: oh yeah I forgot to ask (the guest) if you happen to see this comment what is your opinion or story on what is happening with the mortgage crisis over there right now.
Holy heck, this is why I live deep in the country.
I really get where you're coming from with Anarchism allowing people to more directly address their problems. The problem that you will face is disunity. Famously Classical Greek, Renaissance Italy, and the HRE are the closest historical examples to this. While these city-states did great things we saw their very apparent weaknesses. The class structure skeevy politics and abuse of the poor never went away. These states were also victims to just devastating conflicts that they did not have the means to resist.
You can see this in Greece with Macedon or Rome, In Germany and Italy suffering from French invasions. Internal conflicts like the 30 years war or the Peloponnesian war led to the death of entire cities. In the end, the last bunches of city-states in Germany and Italy were forced to band together in order to compete with more centralized powers. It sounds nice but the fact is that survival must come first when forming a society. Just consider the US breaking down into local governments while China held together. What would that do to the world?
If a revolution doesn't happen first that brings power back into the people's hands. We must play smart to the fact that if the US falls, China wins. No one would be able to stop it.
I don't fault this guy for his beliefs.
What I do fault, is the underlying idea that if we gave people like him an area of land the size of Cyprus or Rhodes or Malta, that they wouldn't be happy with it, because every time they describe their ideal future, it usually involves the world.
Man, if you want an island with all your anarchist friends and you want to make an anarchist micronation, I bet that would he an absolute hit. But when you get people who believe in a violent revolution or uprising...
The American Revolution, was by no means normal. At all. It was a one in a million, "holy shit I can't believe that worked" kind of thing.
The founding fathers led a violent revolutionary uprising against a major world power, they _won_ and then they created a successful and free nation.
When you study enough history, and start racking up knowledge of rebellions, revolutions and uprisings, you start to see just how many end up either failing, or becoming totalitarian Dictatorships or minor kingdoms before soon being destroyed or replaced.
Once the killing begins, by the time it's over you're desensitized to it. Suddenly it becomes easy to kill dissidents than to craft a working legislative and legal system. Courts are hard, they take up time and money and maybe the guilty go free. But the wall? The wall is quick and what's one more kill to add to your hundreds?
It almost always goes that way, and all it takes is one man in a position of power to say "I could go from being a general to a farmer with nothing... or I could be the ruler of a nation with money, power and pussy..." and suddenly your glorious revolution has become another Dictatorship.
Anarchism is fine enough on a small scale when you have *only* people who are 100% on board with the cause. But it fundamentally ignores or denies human nature to imagine its ideal outcome. Direct democracies are the incubators of tyranny and the mothers of Demagouges
Interesting train of thought at the end there, im a constitutionalist and a heavy believer jn what the US was founded appon, but ive always been on board with county governing isnstead of State and federal governing. Think the US is to big and to diverse so it needs to be done by area.
So you're for small govt rather than centralized federal govt. That is wishful thinking at best because without a strong federal govt the US would literally fall apart at the seams and would have never become as strong as it is today.
Small govt is generally great in the short term but long term its extremely weak to external forces like other countries.
As someone that’s Chinese and in China right now I can confirm a lot of the things this guy has said. It really is super strict here and it’s really creepy sometimes. I’m in Beijing so the situation is definitely better than Shanghai but it’s still not the best. I can answer some questions as well hehe
I honestly hope anyone from the government sees this lol
So, here in Brazil there's some left leaning economists that praise china for ending extreme poverty, while the US and Brazil suck at that. I'm wondering if they're right about what they say, if it's really a situation of freedom versus no poverty and balanced economy... They also say that anti-china propaganda spread by the US greatly contaminates the general consensus of the people around the world. Are they too biased?
@@gradient5319 While some people do say that China has ended poverty I think it’s not exactly the truth. China is trying to help some of the villages that are relatively poor but you can still find people who live in terrible conditions. It’s similar to a lot of countries where they tried but it didn’t completely work.
About the propaganda question, I have seen some newspapers that do spread propaganda but something’s are true. They do the same in China as well. So if you want unbiased news you have to do your own research in a way. So to answer your question they aren’t exactly biased but at the same time some are it just depends.
I hope this helps