What Sidious Thought of Emperor Vitiate - Explain Star Wars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2018
- During the years Darth Sidious was known for compiling massive amounts of texts and journals, in one of these Vitiate was at the forefront....
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Alot of power in this video, Sith POWAAA!
What would you first act as Emperor be if you ever became one?
BessY If I had Palpatine's level of powah I would've gone full conqueror, expansion and conquest, militarize and organize. You can't have UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAH! and not use it.
BessY My First Act as Emperor Tarlo would be The Destruction of The Hutt Crime Lords. They've been around a little to long for my Tastes
As many wise Sith in the past I would come into a feasible truce with both republic officials and hutt council members alike. It is noted that a galaxy united is the strongest galaxy.
BessY if I was Sideous I'd get a couple of Twi'lek slave girls to help me with regular skin exfoliations!
Hunt down all force sensitives and make sure they do not gain enough power to destroy me
*_"You discern a fraction of reality. Beyond these stars exist other galaxies, other worlds, other beings. I will experience or ignore them as I wish. I will spend eternity becoming everything: a farmer, an artist, a simple man. When the last living thing in the universe finally dies, I will enjoy peace and wait for the cycle to begin again."_*
Vitiate was literally a god.
All hail Emperor Vitiate!
I killed a god nice
GM Luke kills him without effort 🤣
he was a failed attempt at becoming a god, dreamed big but missed the mark
@@Marcusjnmc got very close through
Ever since The Last Jedi, Legends is looking better and better
Joseph Johnson No.
Joseph Johnson Ever since The Force Awakens for me.
Marky Marc TFA was way better than TLJ (in my opinion)
Garmadon 0327 I thought TLJ was an improvement over TFA. It was still horrendous but at least they tried something a little different.
Marky Marc I respect your opinion
Darth vitiate,the man who created two empires in his life!
squid bear
Lol don't insult Vitiate with that comparison
Lord Vitiate. He never attained the rank of Darth. Once he absorbed the life essence of everyone on Nathema and turned the world into a husk, he wasn't even Vitiate any more. That was the day the Emperor was truly born
Skullcrusher430 Actually he took the name Vitiate after Nathema. Before he was known as Tenebrae
Arthosion he was known as Tenebrae until he was 13, which was when he was presented to Marka Ragnos and given the name Lord Vitiate. After the great hyperspace war, he made Nathema a sanctuary for all surviving sith, who he then proceeded to consume along with the entire planet. That was when the Emperor was truly born
You belong to me Vadar! hahahahah
I think that Disney should have made films about the old republic instead of episodes 7,8 & 9 as there is so much interesting content
Instead, they declared the Old Republic as non canon...I am most disappointed in their decision
Sam 998 it's not out of the realm of possibility. Disney is going to be pushing star wars films pretty much till the end of time since they bought them out, similiar to what they're doing with Marvel. Once the sequel trilogy is done then the chances of seeing Old Republic related content is exponentially higher. And although the Old Republic story is considered non-canon, there are parts being cherry picked into canon such as Darth Bane's appearance in TCW series. Revan was also set to appear in TCW but was later scrapped. There's literally an unlimited amount of chances for Old Republic movies/shows, it's just a matter of time. There's still hope guys.
Had to cash in on the ot nostalgia
They want to create their own version of Star Wars, the sequel trilogy is just a way for them to kill off the old and bridge it with their future movies.
They said anything before episode 7 was non canon. What part of that don't people like you understand.
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved " - Palpatine
wasn't he referring to Plagues? I am not sure how close he came tho
@@feduntu He was referring to Plagueis, because Plagueis could literally control life and death. But yea, several other beings have been able to body-swap through essence transfer, like Vitiate and Andeddu
@@neilmurphy966 palpatine got him drunk and took advantage of his guard being down.
@@tacostastegood3720 Even Palpatine did it in Dark Empire Comics
Sion?? He was the only true immortal... who died when he wanted to
Vitiate is among my favorite Sith. I am most impressed that he was able to find a way to cheat death. But alas, his arrogance led him to foolish decisions regarding his children...
We dont know if his original body is really destroyed. It would be cool if in the end of star wars 9 snoke revealed himself in another body as Vitiate. And then Disney could make a new trilogy in old republic with him as the antagonist
It's hard comparing Sidious/Vitiate,they were both extremely powerful in the dark side and Sith alchemy. Sidious is considered the darkside incarnate by Lucas himself and ruled the Galaxy. Vitiate has destroyed planets, killing all life to fuel his evil essence. Both using essence transfer on host bodies for immortality. They're both interesting characters in their respective empires/timelines. I would love to see an Old Republic series with Valkorion/Vitiate and see how much power he has and how he wields it.
Indeed, his arrogance did slow him down, but not destroy. His original first body is still alive, even to the age of Sidious some felt his dark presence. Sidious however was even more arrogant, thinking that Darth Vader was so broken to the point that he would never snap out of his control, this led to his death, and in his case, it was permanent
@@phantom1a2 Sidious is NO where near Vitiate level. Sidious is a very successful sith and nothing else. Even sith get lucky and achieve golds if they plan carefully and cover contingency plans Thrawn was a no body in the force but clearly the most dangerous person in the empire after force users. Power does not mean everything something Vitiate learn before his end. He was so powerful he became ignorant that he could still lose vs many. His children, wife and the outlander (force for canon) Ganged up on him and drove him out. All of them very powerful them self's were needed for this. Sidious died to 1 man and didn't even see it coming like he went down like a clown not like a boss like Valkorian died after being killed many times and still came back for more. There is no comparison you all need to stop deluding your self to such silly fantasy's. Its better that Sidious was a Average powerful sith anyways makes his death and end seem more acceptable and makes for a good story. Because if you want your god tier sidious fantasy to go out like that. WHAT A LOSER clearly nothing he did was his plan it was someone else's the fool couldn't even see clearly to let his guard down THAT MUCH. to let a farm boy get him killed talk about a LAUGHTING STOCK of a sith.... But if you want this i got one last kill shot for you. Vitiate wanted to live many lives including that of a farm boy. so in the end... LOL!!!!
Terlin1466 agreed even then another sith that’s more powerful then sidious in my opinion is darth marr a powerful sith both on the battlefield and as the shield of the empire but also one of the only sith to truly become one with the force something neither sidious of valkorion could do both them being cast in the void
Glad to hear Sidious knew about Vitiate. These 2 are my favorite Sith. I admire Malgus as well. He was much more of a practical, hands-on type of guy. Certainly someone Anakin could learn from.
So you admire a guy who killed people just because they weren't useful to him?
@@seb0rn739 I think you confuse between admiring the well-written nature of a villain, and deeply loving the villain himself.
Funnily, Sidious had Vader study Malgus because like Vader, Malgus killed his wife because he realized she had become his biggest weakness. Through her death, he used the pain and grief to fuel his dark side powers.
@Cold Savage ALT1 And Sidious was basically Vitiate's spirit possessing Palpatine's body
@@kiennguyentrong1897 Besides the fact that Vader didn't intent to kill her in any way and didn't even actually do it. Only the thing about the pain applies to Vader too.
Soooooo, what did he think of him?
... I was going to say the same thing.
I didn't see this before posting but I ask the same question
JT Synge he was probably jelly
From what I can gather Sidious respected and perhaps once upon a time even idolized Vitiate.
Probably as a badass
The two strongest Sith ever.
temor 511 Yep.
The Disneyth Order is an abomination...
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Wrest Life but I agree Disney is truly the The worst of the sith
Well this is going to start World War 3 but here we go.
I LIKE DISNEY!
Sidious probably spent a good deal of time cursing Darth Gravid, since he would have used Vitiate's Immortality Ritual without hesitation, but Gravid destroyed most of the ancient Sith knowledge.
Highly doubt it there's no way in hell vitiate would have left any scrap of knowledge how he attained his power
And that is what I like about Sidious, what also describes his own strength. He was not simply arrogant to throw away previous Sith knowledge and experience, but rather he studied it and tried to build and combine them all. That is what makes him the most prominent Dark Lord.
That and being the only Dark Lord for the vast majority of the recorded timeline of the Star Wars films.
Valkorion is the emperor Palpatine WISHES he was. He actually unlocked the secret to eternal life. He ruled for other a thousand years to palpatine's 20. He was respected not even so much as the emperor but worshiped as a living god, having no need of a facade to hide his Sith persona. The Jedi order he dealt with were more numerous, more powerful and and less out of touch than the ones Sidious ever faced in the waning days of the Jedi when the Republic was old and tired.
Technically Palpatine ruled for 13 years as chancellor, then 24 years as emperor
Katie Persons The Jedi of the prequels are more powerful. Sidious was a master of all 7 forms of lightsaber combat and capable of defeating 3 of the most skilled Jedi swordmasters in the blink of an eye. He was able to continuously drain the life energies of the 20 billions inhabitants of Byss while simultaneous keeping them in a dream-like state. He wiped the minds of millions or more of Coruscant citizens to hide the burial of the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya. He could sense Vader's traitorous thoughts from across the galaxy. His Force Storms could wipe entire planets clean of life or engulf entire fleets of ships. He was able to hold his consciousness back from the maddening expanse of Chaos and not only transfer his own essence, but that of others, such as Bevel Lemelisk. And he was only finally stopped by accidentally binding himself to a Jedi becoming one with the Force. Even then, it took every Jedi who had joined the Force to hold his essence from ever returning
Katie Persons Most of Vitiate's power came from rituals and relics tho. Unlike Palpatine he was not extremely powerful in a lightsaber duel, and was not that much of an expert in many thecniques other than consiousness transfer.
However, Vitiate was the Sith lord who got the nearest to immortality. Even Darth Plaeguis admitted it, and he could do stuff that Vitiate couldn't.
Since immortality is the second thing sith are the more obsessed about (their one true love being superweapons) it is safe to say Vitiate could be the most succesful sith ever.
If he wasn't extremely powerful in a lightsaber duel then he more than held his own in a fight just the same with the Force alone. He completely dominated a Jedi dream team strike force so elite that up to that point, had never known failure, only to end up bent helplessly to Vitiate's will. Darth Revan and Malak, two extremely powerful Sith in their own right, challenged Vitiate simultaneously and both got their asses flattened. The thing about Vitiate is not that he wasn't the finest swordsman amongst all the Sith. The thing about Vitiate is that he was so overwhelmingly dangerous that even Revan would fall flat on his face before Vitiate even needed to draw his weapon.
Katie Persons None of that holds a candle to the feats of Sidious
It makes that Sidious would pay particular attention to the history of Emperor Vitiate considering his vast power and influence he exerted in both the Sith Empire and Zakuul. Sidious wanted power and Empire, Vitiate set the standard for both.
Vitiate accomplished more as a ghost using your brain as a genie lamp than Sidious could with an entire empire.
To be fair palpatine In dark empire using body swapping clones to house his soil accomplished more than vitiate did using the jedi knights brain as a genie lamp
Sidious was the most powerful Sith Lord in both legends and canon, said by Lucas
@@mr.ditkovich6379 pre or post legends?
@@podroznikzpustkowi4805 He said that when the EU was canon
@@mr.ditkovich6379 Sidious beats vitiate/tenebrae, valkorion beats sidious due to his mastery of the entirety of the force
The sith of the old and ancient were beyond powerful they were so powerful many of them became sith gods. These sith of older time were different than the ones after bane. They have became iconic figures in sith history because of their great power and the amazing things they’ve done or accomplished
I want to make this clear, even though Palpatine is the most powerful Sith, in my opinion, Valkorion/Vitiate, ancient Sith are more powerful than today.
huh?
SSJ BLAIRE WHITE Sama He means that Old Sith was more powerful than New Sith, but he still thinks Palpatine is better than all of them.
No, that's not what I was saying, I don't believe that Palpatine IS better than everybody, not even close. I'm only saying that the ancient Sith ARE more powerful than Today's Sith.
( I never liked Palpatine in the First place and I think He can be beaten By a few people Mostly in combat and A bit of the force, Vitiate.)
Nobody cares what you think. There is a thing called facts. And by facts Sidious is the strongest sith in history
Your facts are bullcrap...Darth Nihilus flew through the vaccuum of space on a destroyed ship using nothing but the force...and didn't need a deathstar to extinguish all the life on a planet...he just used the force to drain everyone's life force at once. And Vitiate was even more ridiculousy powerful...along with Marko Ragnos and other ancient sith. Palpatine was killed by a weak Vader literally giving him the shaft...well throwing im down a shaft...none of those ancient sith would have died that way...the ancient sith were more powerful...and I don't care what the legends comments did by resurrecting Sidious and all that bull...he became more powerful then...but he wasn't all that amazing originally.
Knowledge is a power. Guard it well. - Palpatine was a living proof of that.
Darth Vader's VA the legendary James Earl Jones VS Emperor Valkorion's VA Darin De Paul. Who can melt the most butter?
Darin De Paul is great as Valkorion, but I prefer Doug Bradley's voice of the Emperor, its feels as though theres something... off about his voice, like he's speaking through the thousands of voices that he absorbed on Nathema
True, true. There was something off with that voice when we confront him as a Jedi Knight on his Fortress and in the Dark Temple on DK.
Doug Bradley is the voice of Pinhead. Of course he's the best.
Doug Bradley, Darin De Paul and James Earl Jones are all awesome.
The most butter melted will have to do with who has the bigger bucket of popcorn.
Didn't Sidious model the Empire to be like Vitiates Sith Empire to? If he did then rhat just shows how much Sidious admired Vitiate.
Could be. But in real timeline valkorion is the one ripping off sidious
Considering the old republic wasn’t even thought of when the original Star Wars movies hit the shelves, no. If you’re referring to the newly made canon, then that can be argued.
@@user-cc8fe3pe4p it's not newly made canon, at least not Disney's version, Swtor is still adding to the Legends EU.
Valkorian thought himself so special, so far above the Sith. But in the end his vision was lost and the Sith remained.
After watching the rise of Skywalker it does make sense, literally two sith emperors who built an ginormous fleet in secret (the eternal fleet and the final order) and both sith emperors who can live through other people’s body even after death Example: Rey and the Outlander from the Swtor game I mean come on that’s pretty close
If we want palpatine to even have a chance in comparison we have to use legends we can’t use canon feats are waaaay worse in power skill and knowledge
"One of" the most powerful? He was practically a god!
@In-N-Out Valkorion swallowed planets.
@@victus7597 both has swallowed a planet before
@@victus7597 nihilus too
Yeah, but the most powerful was Sidious
@@mr.ditkovich6379 no he wasnt
vitiate would destroy planets without some giant planet destroyer weapon
he could switch bodies a lot easier than sidious
he took on the entire dark council, grandmaster of jedi, etc and won several times.
sidious could just use force lightning
It’s good that some records of Malgus remained. Man was a legend
Thank you for posting this video Bessy. Looks like I'll be getting copies of some of these ancient tomes. (Book of Sith and Darth Plageuis respectively)
Listen to the audiobook for plaguies serious
By incorporating Vitiate into Papa Palpatine book of Sith, they have inadvertently accepted EU as cannon instead of the expensive Disney fan fiction.
you told us absolutely nothing except he knew who he was and probably heard him brought up alot.... pointless video is pointless
Matt Woodward yeah but it’s and interesting thought, and it causes a mass of debate
dont get me wrong, i love the lore of the old empire, but this video was pretty misleading lol. Im not a serious lore buff, and i knew all this ages ago. I love vitiate though, which is why i clicked
yeah the only reason i clicked on the vid is because i looooove Vitiate, he is the most interesting villain in star wars
Look at the vast differences between the character known as Vitiate and the character known as Valkorian in SWTOR. Plainly, they recognized there were problems with the earlier versions, so they re-created him as a far more accessible character.
As of Rise of Skywalker Sidious thought "I'm going to rip off this guys whole expansion pack"
No joke never in my life have I seen such an accurate comment!!! XD
Sidious did it first, so Vitiate ripped him off
@@steel58836 no
@@yoshiyrn7272 before vitate was even thought of, Palpatine came back to life. Read the Black Fleet Crisis (since they're both legends continuity)
In revenge of the sith Palpatine told anakin to cheat death is a power only has achieved
Absolutely love your uploads BessY, always look forward for your uploads. quality content as always, for a Star Wars channel!
I wonder what Sidious's opinion would have been about Abeloth?
dboymax1 None, because Sidious have never heard about Abeloth or know her, but if he knew about her, I think he see her as an godly being but mentally unstable and insane due to her constant wanting to be loved.
Well I just wondering what would have been his opinion if he did that is all..
He would tap that.
dboymax1
Terrified. If he ever saw her. She is a living incarnation of both sides of the force in pure chaos. Mentally ill with the powers of a God.
Who got defeated by Luke and Krayt.
They were both obsessed with immortality
As always, wonderful video BessY!
I LOVE both Palpatine and Valkorion!
Legends wise Sidious And Vitiate were identical personality wise from the days they were born they wanted to dominate
All hail Emperor Vitiate, the TRUE Sith Emperor and Lord of the Sith.
Really our characters in SWTOR are the real Emperors.
tony machaveli Well, Vitiate was much stronger and wiser than any of our character is or ever will be.. The only reason he was beaten was that basically everyone turned against him.
So really he wasnt more wiser or stronger if everyone turned against him? If he was wiser he wouldn't of fell for our schemes and wouldn't of had people turning against him and if he was stronger he wouldn't need our body to sustain his life.
Our character will most likely become stronger but we wont be recorded in history.
There is just no way. Vitiate destroyed all life on Ziost, killed a Dark Council member with the force in mere seconds, created two empires, and he basically was a god. The only reason our character beat him was because of all the help we had. Just think how strong he would have become if he indeed succeeded in draining all life from the galaxy.
Emperor Vitiate; had manuplated Revan, Malak, Hero of Tython, Master Tol Braga, Warren Sedoru, and Leeha Narezz and turn them into the Dark Side in a matter of seconds. But Palpatine spent 13 years to turn Anakin to the Dark Side.
Revans fall is already in progress before, valkorion just initiated the final step. If we're to use strawman here, valkorion ruled almost the entirety of his empire in secret, many doesn't know the empire is even exist and it's also not the entirety of the galaxy. And even though he ruled for over a millennia, the jedi order is still standing, although weakened.
While palpatine succeed to rule all of the galaxy, obliterated the jedi order and all of that had been done for a shorter period of time, such achievement have never been accomplised by any sith before. Oh and also he ruled his empire without secrecy
Hey Bessy sorry i missed the livestream it was like 1am hear also love the video your pretty cool and is this legends.
So far yes its legends if anything changes i would love it and no worries man ill have another livestream soon
Nice
Another great video BessY!
Vitiate possessed Plageuis and then transferred his essence to Palpatine. 😱
Vitiate is literally my favourite sith of all time
same
I'm still convinced that the Old Republic is canon, and no one will ever convince me otherwise
It's cool that you have your own fake version of cannon
@@highlandus SWTOR is canon!
Darth Vitiate was the most powerful Sith Lord of all time. He was all the Sith.
I love your videos more than ever
Here in my hanger bay, just commissioned a new star destroyer, it’s fun to sit in the bridge as I destroy rebel scum. But do you what I love more than imperial dominance? Knowledge
I unfollowed Bessy a long time ago. Nice to see he still doesn’t elaborate on his own topics. Learned nothing watching this.
Hail Vitiate, the eternal emperor!
Disney can save this franchise if they get stuck into the old Republic era characters. I was hoping Snoke was Vitiate, but it seems he was just some bum thrown in for aesthetic purposes.
Ithink he will stole kilo ren or rey body.
@dar'man beskar Ordo Disney runs lucasfilms like they do with marvel aka let those companies run themselves and just step in when needed like replacing a CEO etc.
When Palp does anything like what Vitiate did to Ziost, we can talk.
Ryan was that not just the Galaxy gun? Vitiate possessed everyone on Ziost before life wiping it.
To the sith he was know as Vitiate and his original name was Tenebrae.
They should’ve brought back vitiate, nihilus, or Revan for episode 9. Sheev is cool but it would be awesome to see an ancient Sith Lord wipe the floor with Rey and taunt kylo for his weekness.
Hello hello there Baxho-Bessy
"You presume limitations to my power. There are none."
Great vid... love ancient sith videos
Ahh remember Vader and the Emperor ahhh the good old days now we have Snoke.
Abdi Mohamud We had Snoke
Khalil Darth Tyus yup
Abdi Mohamud Snoke who? ;)
you never really gave sidious' thought on vitiate. you just gave what you thought sidious's thoughts might have been on vitiate
So you mentioned his 5 most powerful predecessors and I have been trying to figure out who they all were but I couldn’t figure it out could you do a video on it?
Vitiate and Palpatine are both truly extraordinary Sith. Both manipulated governments, using the petty wars of men to further to goals. Both were meticulous in their planning, waiting decades for their ideas to be realised. They both brought the Jedi to their knees- destroying the Republic!
Not once in the video does he say what Sidious thought of Vitiate 🙄
I've heard his name both pronounced the way you did, and Vishiate.
It would be nice to see an in depth comparison to Vitiate and Sidious's empire.
Can someone plis explain what the best way to experience vitiate's story is? Like comics, books the kotor game?
Anyone going to the Pittsburgh steel city con to see Ian McDiarmid?
asockpuppet What, when!?
Khalil Darth Tyus April 13-15 at the Monroeville convention center, autographs are $80 though 😖
If you think about it Vitiate wanted to live for ever while Darth Sidious wanted to rule for ever.
Both wanted to live forever
The One Above All Yes but Vitiate was going to eradicate all life within the galaxy.
Vitiate was the most successful though
Spooderman teh thot Right because vitiate made 2 Empires from scratch.
I believe that Sedious was the most succesful. He succesfully destroyed Jedi Order and estabilished dominace over Galaxy which were two Sith goals.
There is no death, there is only the force. *And I am its master*
Sidious: *.......Bet*
I figured they'd get along...you know until they inevitably betray each other.
I always like expanded universe information that gives the characters and story a lot more depth. Seems like Sidious though was not really given the whole backstory he deserved in the movies; in matter of fact, the movies undermines his pragmatism through critical mistakes in his quest to dominate the galaxy. You mentioned his great levels of pragmatism, yet the films seem to leave him unaware of critical flaws in his own empire.
Did vitiate ever let his empire be brought to the brink of collapse because of one critical engineering flaw in a planet-killing space station?
Rofl last movie he basically wants to become vitiate hah it's hysterical. Just like valkorion and the outlander
Good stuff
What track is that at 0:35??? It's incredible.....
Hello there
You took my line :(
I heard of you
BessY mwahahahahahahaha
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So who were the five sith? I can guess it would be - Tulak Hord, Vitiate, Bane, Revan and Malgus? Hord is a stretch because it is known that very little of what he had created was discovered as he 1) hid it very well and 2) it was destroyed after the Great Hyper Space War. Vitiate was kidna ok imo, he kinda stuck me as coward, so afraid of death that he took the power of others (through sith rituals).
Vasil Gevezov I would change Revan with Marka Ragnos
Vasil Gevezov Sorzus Syn, Darth Malgus, Darth Bane, Mother Talzin and Darth Plagueis.
Drommund Kaas Empire vs Republic Era was one hell of an era.
makes the GCW and CLone Wars era look tame
You understand Mace Windu's fear when he said "The Oppression of the SIth will not return"
Mind if I ask you what was the name of the song used in this video?
50 views 50 likes lol
Actually 50 views, 66 likes now :) , i emailed TH-cam about this problem and their explanation was extremely vague!
Palpatine: Little Baby Boy
Valkorian: Joseph Stalin
Nah more like Palpatin: Hitler.
Valkorion: Mao Ze Dong
Vitiate never even told Revan he lived a whole life as a Jedi for kicks
What are the sources and references for this?
*UUUUUNNLIIMETEED POOWAAAAAAHH!!!!*
I still blame Disney for ruing this awesome history of the Sith....
SWECOMICS vitiate was made by EA...
Brayden Atkinson He was created by the original Bioware before they got bought by EA. Vitiate/Valkorian is The Sith Emperor from uncharted space, that turned Revan and Malak to the dark side. EA owned Bioware are the ones who developed the character.
The history is still there just most of it isn't cannon (at the moment).
Then just don't care for Disney's ''canon'', if they say something isn't canon doesn't mean I'll see it that way, couldn't care less for what those morons say honestly.
I like the Old Republic era as canon but I don't like SWTFU as canon purely based on Shaak Ti's death. I prefer the way she died in the Jedi temple
Can you imagine if vitiate somehow managed to reappear in clone wars or galactic empire? Vitiate would be the greatest threat to sidious.
It would have ruined EVERYTHING for Sidious.
wheres the footage from 1:58 from?
Yea i recommend starwars fans to read the darth revan book. Crazy stuff
squid bear i know right. I feel like hes so close to canon
really? that book was awful. Completely ruined a great character
Horrible novel. Funny enough it was the original writer from BioWare who ruined Revan's character that was expanded upon and made compelling by a writer at Obsidian when they created KoTOR 2.
Such a boreing character..
Scourge gets fucked up throughout most of it
Vi-shee-*ate.* Not Vi-shee-ay. Please get your pronunciations right.
Vishee-It
Christian K. Or that, if you say it fast, yes :P
Pragmatic.... Not progmatic
Yeah that was killing me too😂! Glad I'm not the only one!
Wii She Ate
Would be so cool if Valkorion as canon and seeing Sidious and Valkor having philosophical debates..
What book is this from?
Unlimited power...............
Sorry Palpatine, You can't be like Vitiate, actually I'm not sorry, Star wars legends is So much cooler.
But palpatine also have legends version
Another link to the old republic please can they make it cannon and do a series of movies or TV series
Nope.
Vitate will be the KEY that connects everything. They are creating a Old Republic set of movies
Well if I were them, I would add Vitate he jumps from body to body. Built a Sith and Enteral Empire. They would be crazy to miss it, also KOTOR is getting a set of movies. All this has to connect someway. Also the biggest hint is Snoke says the same exact thing he does" I can not be betrayed, I can not be beaten. Both Snoke and Vitate said those very words.
Malgus was likely not that powerful next to vitiate, sidious or even Vader.
If Malgus saw an opening, his force lightning could disable Darth Vader's respirator and leave him in a weakened state. Plus, he was much more of an agile fighter compared to Vader
@@benronald vader in the current cannon seems stronger than legends vader. He flung sidious with the force in a fit of rage and took a heap of force lighting from sideous with no problems. Also vader is arguably the best duelest besides windu on his era
@@benronald it wouldn't have mattered, if he pissed off Vader enough force rage would have fueled him dragging Vader's disabled suit around through sheer will & force to attack, then whether Vader died or not after crushing his opponent would be down to whether the rage lasted long enough for him to be rescued, but the opponent would be dead by then if they hadn't fled in the little time disabling the suit brought them, & if they fled successfully Vader would be pissed off enough to live. Vader is literally a hate fueled monster.
Close.. too close to call
imo he would put up a fight against vader. remember that vader never had to deal with anyone with force lightning.
Vitiate, Valkorion, tenebrae is still the most powerfull Sith Ever lived. I don't trust those books where people say that Sidious can summon force storms to destroy planets... Why would he even build the Death Stars? To kill time? A hobby maybe? if he can do all that... Flawed logic.
Well it is now confirmed that the Machine "Zildrog" had some role with Vitiate's rise to power too. Let's see what we can have, before sidious became a crippled, walking-stick man, he was good in Lightsaber combat. Then as Emperor he Left melee combat and became better with just pointing his fingers to his target and shoot lightning. Which Valkorion did. But Valkorion isn't a crippled old man.
Valkorion / Vitiate din't even used the term "i can feel your anger" or "I can sense your fear" to manipulate his foe. He used the knowledge of every being he had and turned them to the dark side. hence why revan and malak or basically anyone who found Vitiate's secret Location in Dromund Kaas before the Great Galactic wars.
Looking at Sidious, i say that sidious rather looked up to Vitiate / valkorion as a kind of Idol. "I wanna be like him when i'm older" kind of thing.
Maybe Palpatine was more powerful, but Vitiate lived much longer.
@@darthinhilus2416 Lol, even mace stronger than palpatine. And it is canon;)
Palpatine was good politician and good fighter. But he was not even near to Emperor Valkorion's level.
@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC You have your opinion and i have mine.
@@darthinhilus2416 you're right. and if the Op knew a bit more about Sidious, he/she would know that a lot of imperials including vader found the death stars unnecessary and that it was just Sidious serving his ego and wanting to have a vessel that symbolized power and inflicting terror. he also was aware that outside the galaxy another force existed and that spied on his galaxy and that it could pose threat, which were the Yuuzhan Vong, but he didn't really knew them, just that an extra galactic force was present at the borders of the galaxy.
And the ability to summon Force Storms Sidious just learned to use, very late, shortly before his fist physical death over endor, and that ability was quite unstable to use, especially insie a battle station, and he didn't even consider the rebels worth to be defeated by him, but let his men do the work and instead focused on turning Luke to the dark side.
The only reason why Vitiate became so powerful early on, was because he focused much more ot become powerful in using the force and because he grew up in a more hostile environment, and one controled by the sith were he would learn quicker what the force is and discover and understand his abilities better, while sidious could also use the force to an extent before he became plagueis apprentice, but still it took him longer to really understand his potential. and sidious was busy with his and his masters plans at first and only after he became emperor he really had more time to study the force more than he did before. and at some point learned the ability ot summon force stroms and essence transfer, the former vitiate never learned.
also the reason why vitiate became so old was because drurning the first decades of his live he tricked a bunch of powerful sith lords to participate in ritual, which would sacrifice them and feed vitiate's power and increase his life span it wasn't his ownj potential in the force that made it possible.
All in all sidious' potential was higher than that of vitiate.
the biggest problem was, that his power grew too fast and the dark side thus clouded more and more of his own insight of the future and made him less cautious, which led to his fall, while vitiate just hold back most of his time and never controlled as much of the galaxy as sidious did. that and it was simply the will of the force to balance itself by neutralizing that dark side embodiement that sidious had become and the vast and quick increase of the dark side power, throughout the decades.
@@SpecForceMarine Vitiate kind of knew essence transfer. He occupied several different bodies. But Lucas has stated that Palpatine was the most powerful Sith to ever be. And we know that from his feats too. ( creating force storms and force draining planets for extended periods of time )
So from this and your others videos concerning his 5 most powerful predecessors they are from strongest to weakest vitiate revan bane malgus and i have no idea who the 5th one is but let me know if you're aware of who it is.
What was his thoughts on vitiate?
Vitiate might be the most badass character in the entirety of the Expanded Universe.
No that are Satele Shan and Ahsoka Tano.
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Nah. Not even close lol
I've lost count of how many "most powerful Sith in the galaxy" there actually are. I guess they all think they are the most powerful ones. #SnowflakeSith
We need a movie trilogy of the Old Republic !!
Its is official Star Wars canon that Sidious is THE most powerful Force User ever
Disney or George canon? Because of only Disney matters now.
@@The_Desert_Tiger Both.
Lucasflim and Disney are idiots for not bringing back The Old Republic. I mean hello you can make so much money off the rich history it’s really stupid not to tap into that fanbase
Totally agree,to scrap Plagueis was criminal as that books a masterpiece
I personally think Vitiate is stronger than palpatine at least by a little especially since Vitiate rule his empire alot longer than Palpatine & he was more successful at swapping different body to prolong his life than Palpatine in legends.
Nikoli492 sidious was 💯 the most powerful force user in legends. Luke was more powerful but we never saw him use it constantly like palpitine. Like if you do more research in legends comics you'll find out just how unbelievably op palpatine is
That's legends...bullcrap. George Lucas didn't intend for Palpy to be any more powerful than he was in the movies...and that's how I shall see it...he wasn't more powerful than ancient sith. But I'm curious...make a list of all the supposedly OP things Palp couldl do...because the ancient sith displayed ridiculous feats of power.
except palpatine was already the most powerful sith ever in the movies according Lucas. also the whole return of the emperor as a clone was lucas' idea too
@@radish45 doesnt that make luke most powerfull force user?
@@elevatingvibration1860 George flat out suggested to the authors to have Sidious come back to life and set some guidelines up to make it happen.
Tenebrae took an an team of Revan, Meetra, Scourge, the Outlander, his family, Satele, Marr and more to kill for good. TROS Pals got killed by SSJ MaRey Sue.
Where do we get these from? Please tell me it's gonna become canon! Valkorion is fantastic