CT200H Steering Knock
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- 2012 Lexus CT200H steering knock when turning left/right.
The bolt is Lexus PN: 90119-08560
UPDATE: Just took the car on a 600 mile trip and the steering was super tight and had no knock sound. No new bolt required!
Another Update: The sound still has not come back. :-)
Update: 1/24/23 - Recently the knock came back again. We took the car to a local shop (not Lexus) and it was determined that it was in fact the steering rack causing the problem. We replaced the steering rack and pinion ($1700) and it feels like a new car again. We opted for Lexus parts but I did see several options around $300 for the part only. You may get what you pay for though. I'm glad this video has helped eliminate the noise for at least some period of time for people.. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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18K miles after following this instruction, my 2012 CT200H still runs great. The noise is gone forever. I now have 122K miles on this car. Thanks again Jeff Cooper. You're the best!
It worked, tightened the old bolt and just took the car for a drive down a gravel road, noise is 100% gone. This has made me happy, thought is was the top strut mounts or something loose under dash. 2012 CT200h now rattle free. Thanks appreciate it.
oh man. Same here. I had a knocking sound when turning coming from the steering column of my Prius. My Toyota dealer wanted to replace the whole steering column assembly. Out the door $3132. I saw this video the same afternoon, my intermediate shaft is loose, that I knew. After I said no and got my car back, I rushed to check the bolt referenced in this video. Mine was tight, but upon further inspection, there was a loose cap that is supposed to cover the thicker part of the intermediate shaft. I put the cap back in place and I tried to jiggle the shaft again and it doesn't budge. I shouted out, "You gotta be f#$king kidding me!!" Then I take the car for a drive and there is no more knocking. Thank you for posting this video. I saved thousands.
Same problem here, can u post photo of what exactly you changed or give me more detail on what im removing and looking for?
Can you post this cap that was missing?...my ES 350 is making Same noise...proably same issue.
@@markg999 The cap wasn't missing, it was just separated from the "piston" part of the intermediate shaft. I'll try to post a picture, kind of a newbie to youtube posting.
@@mrppan9599 Sorry for the delay. I'll try to post a picture of what I was referring to.
@@mrppan9599 Ok, I can't upload a picture to TH-cam, but if you pause the video at 1:54, that cap came loose on mine. Then the part beneath the cap when I grabbed it, I was able to shake it and it made the rattle noise. When I pushed the cap back on, with a lot of force, it hasn't made the sound since.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Shop wanted me to replace my entire steering column and this was the actual issue. It went from almost costing me $2500 to free!
Thank you from algeria. After 6 years of your video
Hi Jeff, you're a great guy for posting this video. It saved me around £100 as one of the local mechanic thought it was the link bar or something similar but after watching your video it was actually the nut you referred to. Thank you once agin. The problem solved. Cheers
I swore I was gonna need the whole intermediate steering replaced for my 300h I’m glad I watched this video. I literally tightened with 12mm no need to buy new bolt.. it literally has my car steering almost brand new 👌🏾
Jeff Cooper you are diamond.
I took my car to Toyota Jemca in London to fix the nocking. They diagnosed it, the steering shaft and steering column have to replace and it is gonna cost you £2564.48. You saved my money.
I fixed it in 5 minutes. God bless you, thank you very very very much.
aman azimee b
I am having same problem, how do.i get to this place to replace it.
Hi
It is very easy.
Remove the plastic cover underneath the steering wheel.
Loosen the bolt first and retight the bolt.
@@Mu5tyLaghmani
I haven't replace any parts just loosen the bolt ane retight it.
I am sure the steering nocking noise will disappear.
@@amanazimee
Many thanks bro
Thanks Jeff, I just fixed mine (2012 model), gobsmacked that it actually worked!
I didn't have any sockets, so I bought a set for £20 on amazon.
I put some foam wrapping on the floor of the car, then wriggled my head underneath the steering wheel, and lay on my back with my bright LED torch beside me, staring up at the steering joint thing.
I cranked the bolt roughly 1/4 turn, which was as far as I could make it go. The job took less than 1 minute and it's fixed 3 years of annoying rattling. Unbelievable, wish I'd done it sooner. Thanks for saving me a new steering column, which is what my garage recommended.
Which socket set did you get from amazon, I'm about to try exactly what you did.
Well done Jeff for this superb posting. 100% spot on with this fix. Just done on a 2012 model, ordered the bolt direct from Lexus and 5 mins to fit. Great post and video quality. Most garages will put this down to knuckle joint/steering column/rack etc...... so £2.00 for a bolt saves a lot of time and money. It even feels like a knuckle due to how the vibration travels. Thanks again Jeff 👍🏻
Dude you just saved me so much money! THANK YOU SO MUCH! So many places have been trying to totally screw me out of money regarding this problem. Your video is awesome and appreciated.
Hope I foud this video 2 days back. Replaced the steering rack of my Aqua 2013, because of the rattling noise. But it was there even after the replacement. It was totally misdiagnosed..after seen this I tightened the bolt.. it worked no rattling at all. Thanks Jeff you made my day, long suffering headache is now gone..you are a genius 🙏
Jeff....you are the man! Fantastic, thank you very much for this. I didn't think it would work, but all I did was tighten that bolt, job done! Took me a while to find the bolt (because I was being lazy and I didn't want to fully get on the floor of the car) but thereafter 30 second job.
You made my day! I just tightened my bolt on my CT200h and it worked, clunking noise is gone. Saved me a lot on Money!
Leo F glad I could help
Thank you man! Fixed it for $3,47! Hardest part was getting under the steering wheel.
Just tried! Works! Fking awesome! You are the man! Cannot tel how excited I am right now!
Hi, thank you you saved me 2000 euros! My garage wanted to replace the steering rack. The steering rods are not found in individual.
RAV4 2007 I've been looking for the problem for a while, I watch your video and think it's too stupid to be just that. But no I did your thing and the trouble is gone. Thank you
Thank you so much man! I had a clunk on my Lexus LS460 and it all started after I hit a bump, I thought it was strut mounts or control arm joints, shake the wheel no noise outside. Shake it from inside and I can hear it. Thanks man I had a headache for a month trying to figure this out! And it also tightened up my steering!
Magical! It was really a quickfix. I was given a quote of £1350 to fix the issue. Thank you
Thank you bro very much for showing us the noise before you changed the part
Sheesh muchas gracias
My mother-in-law just ask for me to look at her car issue and I just seen you video. It's the same problem she is having on her 2012 prius. I am going to tight that bolt and see what happens. Thank you for the great video
hope it works for you but don't tighten it too much it will shear...
You are the man!!!! Just save me a whole lot of $$$$ . I have a Toyota Auris hatch that I just purchased with 30k kms and after 3 month it started making that annoying steering noise that's been driving me nuts. And so happened it's past the dealers 90day warranty . So glad I came across ur vid. The issue with mine was the lower bolt. The nuts were tight and I still got the noise. So I decided to remove the bolts and put back in again. Then used a longer rachet for more torque and tightened it quite tight as u mentioned and Waalaa!!!! No noise. Just a tip for others I thought the noise was coming from lower engine bay outside the car but infact it was from inside the car and because it was echoing through the body it sounded like it was outside in the lower engine bay. Hope that helps! But thanks heaps Jeff !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for this video it saved me, the shop said I would have to change the INTERMEDIATE, NO.2 Shaft again Thanks.
Glad it helped you!
I think I love you man!!
Thanks so much. I have had the problem ever since I bought the car 5 years ago but i lived with it because my mechanic said it was an inherent problem with all Toyotas. Will give it a shot!
How did it go?
If bolt get loose and cannot be tighten, just use few strain of copper wire. Put few strains in-between bolt and female thread. Screw down bolt. Will be tight as new.
Thanks this 3 minutes video has saved me a lot of money and stress.simply followed the the video and tightened the bolt and lo behold knocking has ceased .BLESS YOU MY FRIEND
Just done my other half’s ct200h it’s been rattling for a couple of years until now! Smooth over the jumps etc
Wow, this is a relief
Will try my out and see if its the problem
Have being wondering if its my steering rack assembly, and there are bad sounds when you run over bumps, like a bad strut, bushing or mount.
I pray after tightening this it solve my problem
THANK YOU!!!!! My wife has been on my butt about fixing this and I couldn't find the source.
Oh my God. A year. I spent a year chasing this rattle. Are you ready for a list of the parts I replaced chasing this rattle? I did the wheel bearings, sway bar bushings, shocks and struts, CV axles, and stabalizer bars. As well as a new set if tires, but I needed that regardless. After watching this video I tightened the offending bolt 1/8th of a turn. And rattle fixed. I can't believe it. Thank you so much for posting.
Old video, but thanks man! This worked perfectly and is a quick fix to prevent a 700 buck repair.
After I was able to get to it, it seemed as tight as it would go. I really turned it hard and got a slight bit of movement tightening it up. UNBELIEVABLE, no noise at all. I didn't take it out or anything just a little muscle and quiet. Thanks for sharing. I recommend just really trying to barely tighten and it works.
Did you have to take the plastic cover out under the steering wheel to get an access?
@@germea6855 no you don't need to
@Jeff Cooper. I took my car to independent garage and they quoted me £1200. Lexus quoted me £200 to diagnose the problem then further costs to fix the problem. Today I followed your instructions and the problem is solved. No more noise. I would like to thank you for your help, you saved me a fortune.
Awesome!
had the clunky steering problem in my daihatsu sirion..changed tie rods ends no use...and guess what.your video saved me from spending money for no use.God bless you.my problem is solved.☺
Lol I watched this vid to try to fix my Sirion too!
men... heaven to earth difference! Hands down! :)
Worked perfectly on my Corolla. Thank you!
Which yr
@@bullpower947 2013
Done this on my toyota auris no rattle anymore packed lots a lithium grease on shaft splines and got 2 new bolts from Toyota dealer ship toyota told me to torque bolts to 30 or 35 nm great now no rattle.thanks for the help👍
Im from malaysia. and my nissan versa got the same problem. but u got my solution..thank you!
I like how service will charge you complete new column like it's bag of candy not $1200 part. And when you see it is just a $12 bolt (new original)... I had similar issue and got it fixed for free, but with same "you will need to replace the whole column" story attached to it. It's almost like all you need is to change oil and oil filter, and they say to you "we'll need to replace while engine".
Thank you brother , sorted 👍
Thank you for demonstrating the issue before tearing your column apart. I am having a similar problem and I can hear the noise all the way up and down the intermediate shaft. It also knocks when I go over a bump, which lead me to believe the issue was at the knuckle/joint where that shaft connects to the steering rack. I have heard this was under recall by Toyota on lower milage units. But no good description of the actual problem. Again, thank you.
Did you find a solution to your issue? I am having the same noise... knocks when i go over a bump too
@@Michaelqvu it's in the joint of the shaft. I've yet to fix it, I don't drive that often.
@@YuckFou0x0FFFF thanks for the reply I appreciate it
Thanks, this helps tremendously for fixing my prius
what is your prius model sir? I have 2011 prius absolutely the same sound!
@@bircan2254 2013
TM PH , it is the same think on the Prius ? Where it is located?
What happens here is that the Universal joints are worn out, when loose the screw the connector and shaft moved down and lean in that direction compensating the play of the worn out universal joints. that got rid off the clunk noise
So what would I need to replace? Apparently I need a new column first it was a shaft now a column
Thanks Jeff I just save £xxx Great Job!!!
Thank you Jeff, this video helped alot. In my case, the screw that was slightly loose, causing the knocking, was located towards the bottom behind the black plastic piece. It's right before the next universal joint. It's also a 12mm bolt.
Glad I could help!
You removed one bolt to take off the black boot/cover and then tightened the bolt underneath?
This is common on pretty much all Toyota products. My 06 Camry SE makes the same noise. it just the bushings going bad on the steering intermediate shaft. Some people has fixed the issue simply adding new grease instead of replacing the whole unit.
thanks man!
You are the f#@king man! I owe you a beer if you're ever in LA!
I 've had the same issue with C-HR. Toyota dealer replaced intermediate steering column under guarantee, no cost. It is fixed.
Those upper bolts are usually one time only bolts can't reuse them I've had one snap on me when turning the car round once, the bolt head flew off it I guess there a kind of stretch bolt etc the bolt, the only bolt you can use again is the one that connects the column to the rack
Great video. Was it loose when you started to take it out?
No it seemed pretty tight.
Thanks! I fix my stewring wheel on Hyundai i30 by this way.
How did you take off the plastic cover to get to the area where you can get to the bolt?
Thanks from Russia🥳
Jeff, thank you! I just loose and retightened the bolt and the noise was gone.
Question, was the noise a symptom of another more serious underlying condition?
I don’t’ know but it seems like the bolt just get worn and allows for the free play. Actually replacing the bolt would most likely be a longer lasting solution.
@@coop802 thank you again
The end of an Era.. We sold the CT200H. What a great car she was.
Hi Jeff. Did you feel any movement in the car while driving? Mine has started to make a knock feel in the steering and I can feel a slight drift in the car on unjulating roads and where there is a camber on the road.
Blinky Bill no I don’t think so. In order to hear the knock you would have to turn the wheel a bit quicker so you may just feeling the associated turn. We still have the car and has yet to knock again. Hope this helps.
I bought new bolts and replace it, no more noise 😁
same issue solved in gen 3 toyota prius. Took 10 minutes only. Quarter turn then the steering bar in the joint stopped moving. No more knocking.
I wonder if this is the same thing on the 2010 rx too
Great video! Did you have to remove a plastic cover to get to see and adjust that bolt?
hmm, (been awhile) I don't think so. It's a pretty ackward position but its doable.
@@coop802 Thank you. I had to remove the cover but the screw was already really tight, so I will now try with the lower one, on the bottom close to the floor, under another cover. Thanks again!
@@gjjcgmail9930 Any update? What was your issue at the end? Thanks.
I have same issue how tight should we try to make this bolt? All the way tight? Thx
Whats the torque spec for this bolt? Wondering how much more can i turn?
Please help me out Iam from India and own a Fiat Grande punto 1.3 but recently the car has started knocking + grinding noise when i do right turn. The sound comes from left wheel area only on right turn. I have replaced lower arms , strut , mounts , drive shaft , ABS bearing and now jerk mechanics are telling to open gearbox as they suspect something might be wrong with the differential. But i suspect something is wrong with powersteering rack , tie rods or link rods. There is no free play in tie rods but when the mechanic tightened them little more the sound has decreased by almost 75% So please guide me what should i do now. Please please please help me out
I have exactly the same noise from my Toyota Avensis 2010. Mine rattles like crazy going over small bumps. Gonna try it
My 2012 Toyota camry had that joint bad..intermediate steering shaft. Had to change. Now perfect. The bolt really should not be the problem ....its tv he joint in shaft...or in the electric steering unit( damper- small piece to replace...or just grease)
It works 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Apparently this is a common issue. Someone on the assembly didn't tighten it enough
thanks eeryone and josh! no way can this b true, im just getting this knocking now, so fir step, to tighten 1/4 turn, if that don twork, order a new bolt thru toyota and the noise will stop, no need to order intermediate steering shaft??? let mek now!
Same thing with my Prius 2013, bout to try this.
How did it go?
how to get to that bolt? any instruction?
Just FYI...
Ok guys, I'm new to this forum as I've been also looking for a solution to a "Clunk/Clank" noise that has started after I bought my 15 CT200h. I went under the vehicle to Inspect all of the hardware i.e. bolts, nut fasteners, etc....etc. on the steering/suspension components. I did not find anything loose or missing, bummer :(. I did however do the "Fixes" that have been posted such as tightening the bolt to the steering link assembly, which did not provide any relief. I continued to do the sun roof slide open/close maneuver and again nothing. Finally before changing any thing out, I Intensified my visual inspection on the LH Strut/Coil assembly, I kept staring at the coil and the LH side front fender liner. What did I see? a rub mark between the coil and the plastic fender liner - BINGO! I also noted a clip was missing on the liner and as soon as I Installed it the liner moved away from the strut/coil assembly. Took a test drive and ahhhhh no more clunk/clank. Best 15 minutes I ever spent diagnosing and resolving the Issue I had with my vehicle. I hope this helps some one. Please check the underbody liners, if any are missing the plastic clips, please Install them as it could cause some abnormal noises that otherwise will leave many with a high $$ bill just to solve.
Cheers to all!
Was this issue intermittent sometimes ?
Thank you Jeff, thank you for a great video, I found the part it sells at Toyota for $1.50, I want to ask you a favor, Can you please show how you got to the location (what parts did you have to take off and how you did that)
Nothing to take off, just lay on floorboard and follow the steering shaft up to the u joint. In my case I simply tightened the bolt a bit and didn't have to replace it. Make sure the wheels are turned straight or you may have to turn them a bit to get the correct position to adjust or remove the bolt.
Same shit in toyota camry 2007,will try, thank you
Been chasing this sound on my 2016 Infiniti Q50, replaced all wheel hubs, inner and outer tire rods, new brakes and rotors and new tires. Still making this exact noise, I’m about to buy the lower joint for the steering column and see if it stops. Symptoms while driving are pulling to the right and over steering while turning
You need to check the rack and pinion. That was the cause.
Just remove it and add locktite and put back. But the problem was a loose nut that hold the rack and pinion to the subframe
I tried this bolt shown on the video but didn't work. I have the same noise as the video shows. Is it the bolts that hold the steering rack in place? Like 3 large bolts with bushings
You are ze best
How do i get to this part?
About the update. You changed steering rack, no intermediate shaft; so it was a diferent problem I asume
Should use locktite so it won't loosen again
Did this also cause a noise when going over bumps? I thought my suspension was shot when I picked my 2012 up. I checked and everything still looked like new. So I'm hoping this is it. I could feel something in the steering wheel when going over bumps.
Yes, check the first comment
Hi, Just have the same problem , lexus CT from 2011, Toyota France say 900€ to repair ... i go to Toyota Germany and solve the problème for 0€ !
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So french people how look on Google to search informations can go here
Thanks
I may have the same issue with my 2011 Ct. Did you hear the noise while driving the car as well?
Yes! That's what prompted the investigation in the first place. Check it out and see its a very easy resolution even if you have to replace the bolt with the splines.Good luck!
is normal the sound starting from 2:54?
I have same knock exactly.. I will try bolt and update yall how it went thanks for the tip!
What's the update?
Update?
Is this bolt easy to get to? Where exactly are you seeing this bolt?Thanks Jeff
Yes its easy to get to however you may not be able to see it. Look up from the drivers floorboard.
Which type of the both u replaced Jeff ? Is it normal 12mm both ?
It's not a normal bolt at all, as it had splines near the head. I didn't replace it, just tightened it, but be careful not to OVER tighten it, don't want to break it off.
Hi Jeff is the noise disappear once you replace a new bolt or what else was the problem thanks
carlosgj1308 yes the noise stopped and still has not returned. I simply removed and re tightened it. Hope it helps!
Jeff Cooper it worked now no more noise thanks a lot for your help 👍🏼
I tried this but that didn't seem loose anyone have any other suggestions?
Any idea how to get a broken bolt out???...was trying to tighten and did too much
That is going to be difficult for sure. I don't think there is enough room to get a drill up there to try and extract the bolt. You may have to remove the steering shafts. I haven't done that one. Good luck!
I have a Prius 3 2011. I tightened that screw, it didn't change the situation at all, the noise didn't go away
Sorry it didn’t work for you hope you can find the cause.
Apostol Marius did you ever find out what the issue was?
Hey can u help i need to fix that problem and might be hearing some knocking but not sure check engine light on
For this problem in particular, its best to lay with your head at the pedals looking up, difficult to do I know, then move the steering wheel back and forth you will hear the issue quite clearly from the joint. As far as the check Engine light Its best to get the codes from the ODBII to see whats causing the issue. I know there is a potential recall on Toyotas and the Traction Control system so if its the traction control light then take it to a dealership. sorry I'm not much more help.
I have the same knocking sound but its coming from the bottom of the shaft underneath the car. Idk what it is.
Tough to check that out as the car sits so low. Maybe next time you take it for an oil change you can ask to check it out most likely there in another bolt to another U joint in the steering system. Don't know what else to tell you on that one..
@@coop802 thanks
Hi all, before I try this, can someone tell me how to access that part. Do I have to remove any plastic panels ilorin is it quite accessible? I have a UK CT200H
Simply get your head and arms into the footwell and look up.. can be complicated…
I have this problem on my 2012 Toyota Prius
Part number has been replaced with a new part no (90080-11555)
is it possible that in Italy the screw code is different then 90080-11555?
Thanks! Got it off Amazon for like $6
This didnt work for me unfortunately... I unscrewed it and tightened it as hard as possible... in vain... Any possible advice on where to look anyone?
Those bolts need a specfic torque
is it possible that in Italy the screw code is different then 90080-11555?
I didn't actually have to replace the screw, just tightened it. We still drive the car everyday and it has not come back yet. I wouldn't think the PN for the bolt would be different though.