@@JoseJimenez-sh1yi I've played for seven years and restarted four times. I've never reached above BR 8.0 because I've always ended up losing money and making no profits
Can't wait to unlock my first phantom in 5 years... Edit after 1 month: I have stopped grinding. It's too much and unbearable. Just enjoy the game, play low tiers, with friends... have fun if you can Edit after 1 year: go and play enlisted, much more fun.
Ah, yes! I love this plane, too bad Gaijin predatory strategies won't let me get one in War Thunder. What's up with that repair cost raise and SL multiplier nerf Gaijin?
lol it only took me 1 and a half months to grind lmao _Edit: I was wrong! I meant it took me 1 and a half months to reach the Phantom from Rank II up to Rank VI_
As a kid, I grew up with F4's flying overhead out of Bergstrom AFB in TX. I still remember hearing them hit the afterburn on takeoff and feeling it in my chest from miles away.
Last time I was this early the F-4E was still meta My favorite version of the Phantom has to be the German F-4F or the Israeli prototype Super Phantom 2000
@@jg54sayaka11 your not wrong the Bis was a nessacary addition and it's a much needed improvement over the SMT. However despite that it's doesn't fix the mig 21's biggest weakness which is BVR combat its radar is still sub par and the R3R is still only useful for close range headons. Additionally the Mig is still unable to carry 8 missiles, and its energy retention during dogfighting is still not great either. Again I'm not saying it's a bad plane but it's still not equal to the Phantoms that spot goes to the Mig 23.
Next for amarica will have to be early versions of the f15, the a8 , and the a6 intruder or earlier carrier bombers, mig 23 for east germany tech tree and russia next
@@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876 oh yeah Stalin is either way sending us to gulag For this low ammo capacity and being unable to kill with cannon Plus relying on air to air missiles
I started as USAF crew chief on F-4E after tech school and was assign for 18 months before going into Viet Nam theater, then crew F-4C/D. The Phantom F-4 aircraft was a nightmare for the crew chief, but it was a dream for the pilots. As a young Air Force Crew Chief was proud to work on the Phantom and served my country during the Viet Nam era. Veteran Spoken!
I watched this video over a year ago, I have been steadily progressing towards the phantoms, and I can now proudly say that I have accomplished the F-4E Phantom II
@@theraptors6597 look at the max speed at altitude on the stat card, climb to that altitude in a test flight with clean wings and no gun pod, full afterburner with min fuel and no fuel consumption turned on, wait about 5-10 mins, watch absolutely nothing interesting happen That good?
Hell, the USN, the first operator of the F-4 still lacks an F-4B or J. Both of which had different radars, engines, weapon systems, and even internally mounted flare dispensers.
The Phantom was also a part of the century series of fighters, having been designated (at one point) the F-110 (Spectre). I will be looking forward to flying the F-4E.
I'm trying to grind for one, by dad would have worked on British ones as he worked at BAE Warton for many years. It's a very long grind though :( only t3 in aviation.
@@rokstar3178 you know what, never any going when I try lol. Always play realistic battles, never arcade. The game is fun most of the time, can get frustrating though.
I personally like the F-4EJ Phantom II with it's Sky Blue Camo. Though the Forest Camo suits it quite well, something about it being Japanese makes it feel more special and close to me.
@@n1thecaptain965 Funny he would say it's a joke, since in a way it really isn't. P-47 held the name Thunderbolt and was designed by Republic Aviation. A-10 Thunderbolt II retained the name honoring the P-47, and it had the right to do that since it was built by the derivative of Republic Aviation merged with another company-Fairchild Republic.
@@captaincornflakes6384 wait so... FGR2 has them also the ?! The ones that drop down on down on front of the wings? Although fgr has no combat flaps. Cheers though mate, I need to research the f4e
@@rektangel333 the F-4F would be worse than any of the other phantoms right now because it only carried Aim9Bs (and of course the M61 in the nose since its a simplified very of the F4E) and cant use Sparrows. It only got the ability to use Aim9Ls with the Peace Rhine upgrade but Gaijin is still refusing to give jets all aspect Heatseekers.
@@Fl3iR Still in the long run Germany will have aircrafts like Mig-29 & Su-17 family, even Typhoon and Tornado if Gaijin decides to go that further into the tech tree.
@@orestiadac4305 it would make sens there since its the one line close to top tier without top tier, i would love it if it would be after 262 pulkzerstörer
I’ve got multiple days worth of gameplay on sim mode in the F4-E. I love it so much. It’s so fun to have the speed to outrun anything, the missiles to defend myself and attack with, a good gun with good ammo, and the ability to carry a wide range of ordinance if the airspace is relatively empty of other top tier jets, mainly the mig21. The mig21 is the only plane I will immediately jettison all ordinance and do everything I’m capable of to try and take him out.
Should have also mentioned that the F-4E and the EJ I believe have the “agile eagle” performance package which makes them more maneuverable than the standard phantoms (like the F-4C)
@@migdonalds well I’m not too well versed on the performance of the phantom, but what I will say is that the F-4E does not pull anywhere near 10+G’s early in the battle. However, as fuel is burned (and the plane becomes lighter), it can actually pull that. That’s in terms of physics. In terms of technology, I don’t know if the phantom has computers and systems that limit the amount of G’s the plane can pull.
@@brycewalker7797 phantom combat turn would pull about 6g. its airframe could withstand up to 9g but it would require an overhaul as it would start to literally pull rivets put of the wings
Can't tell the phantoms apart very well, but what I do know is that I love what came after the phantom and can't wait for it to be added to war thunder, need me to be more descriptive of it? Ok, big, swing wing, two tails, two on record each have had a kill of a Japanese Zero, VF-84 202 and 203 respectively (That was in a movie of course), has also intercepted a hijacked 747, and has done a Canopy to Canopy with a MIG 28 (F-5 Tiger)
Navy: gimme sidewinders and no guns and once we shoot them we will be defenseless Designers: ok but you do want guns right Navy: nope just sidewinders Army: the navy is dumb only sidewinders WOW why no guns
Flew the F-4 in Nam - three combat tours - mixed it up with a couple of Fishbeds once - no one got hurt - finished up with over 2,800 hrs. in the jet - before I retired from the AF I also few the Viper but my first love was the Rhino - in my opinion the best fighter of its time!
I have seen a mistake in the video: F-4 had ailerons which could only be deflected down. So when rolling clockwise the left aileron goes down while on the right wing a spoiler is raised. This produced the awful handling characteristics of the F-4 and was one of the cause of its inverted commands above 15° AOA. The video instead shows (min. 1 and 29 sec) the right aileron deflecting up.
@@Real_Claudy_Focan yes and I highly disagree with that aswell but unlike the f4 this mig21 is going to get eaten alive due to its slow speed and turns like a mig21f13 and loses its speed almost instantly. But the f4 on the other hand is going to be way better especially a Greek modification as it’s very modern. And plus even though this mig21 Coming has r60s they ain’t gonna do cr*p with f4s that spam flares all the time
1. The mig 17, in good hands, could shoot down an F-4. The Mig17 was incredibly maneuverable and was well armed. Un like many contemparey fighters, it was very unarmored. 1 well placed 30mm shot from a Mig 21 could reek havoc on the Phantom. 2. The missiles were very unreliable and sense I don't play WT, I don't know if you made that mistake or not. 3. Navy Phantoms never used a gun.
>The mig 17, in good hands, could shoot down an F-4. The Mig17 was incredibly maneuverable and was well armed. Un like many contemparey fighters, it was very unarmored. 1 well placed 30mm shot from a Mig 21 could reek havoc on the Phantom. It's a moot point, any plane piloted well enough can down another piloted poorly enough. We're all aware of the Po-2 versus F-94 maneuver kill. Armor is not a factor in aircraft design, even so-called "armored" planes like the A-10 are only designed to keep the pilot alive long enough for him to eject, the plane will not survive significantly more damage than any other. In fact, its slow speed, low altitude, and weak engines are all a liability in that regard, where the F-4's performance saved many aviators' lives by allowing them to eject in safe locations rather than over North Vietnam. And as always, performance and technology that means you don't get hit in the first place is always better than trying to reduce damage taken from a hit. >The missiles were very unreliable and sense I don't play WT, I don't know if you made that mistake or not. They're reasonably accurate considering WT doesn't model malfunctions or maintenance errors that caused a great many of these failures in real life. >Navy Phantoms never used a gun. They were tested with the Mk 4 Mod 0 gunpod, however in practice this was only used by Marines and only for a very short time. The Mk 4 was horribly unreliable, and removed from service entirely after 1967.
@@theorganizer1273 Navy never used a gun because they flew the Phantom as a fighter-interceptor and didn't need a gun. The Navy tested the Mk 4, but never used it operationally on the F-4. The Marines did, but only for a short time.
Missed my favourite... :( The F-4F early i am from germany and i have spent four years in the German Air Force. And during this time happened to work in that exact aircraft. 38+64 flew right untill the end in 2013 at JG71 "Richthofen". By the way, the rear roll rudder does not pitch upwards ;)
F4E is may favorite because the internal gun. If used correctly you can easily get 4+ kills with it. That also counts on the enemy team not all flying low, but you can still do some work.
Should have given an honourable mention to Phantoms from the 69th Hammers IAF. The Hammers are the only squadron to participate in attacking and destroying an enemy nuclear reactor, once in '81 in Osiriak, Iraq (with other squadrons), and the second time in Syria. Both times sending geopolitical shockwaves around the world. No one else have done this, not even the US, yet the Hammers squadron have done it twice, so far.
I want it but other nations need actual top tier jets and the f4f phantom would be the most advanced jet in the game so it won’t be added until a rank 7 jet tier is made
For the people complaining about the grind. There's these modes called air assault arcade and Ground assault arcade. It gives massive rewards even if you loose. just kill the enemy and you're set. though you're playing against AI so be careful.
@@ffar662 Yes, the standard version would only have the M61 vulcan and Aim9B FGW2s (also known as Aim9Fs). Only with the peace rhine upgrade, it could carry Aim9Ls
Several Q's: 1. Are we getting the German F4G? 2. Can you pls model in the wheels of aircraft to move when on the ground. 3. Model the JBD's of the carriers. And add more authenticity to launching from the catapults. Sounds, effects, smoke etc. Planes are launched misaligned too! 4. F4 if I'm remembering it correct had HUD's so why doesn't the game have em yet. 5. Lastly pls reduce module RP. Give us the choice to add the vehicle RP gained, compiled up just for the module of the vehicle we're using. Vehicles are difficult to play stock, especially when missiles are rampant, when Attackers and Bombers and Strike aircrafts don't have the necessary weapons.
"please tell us which Phantom is YOUR favorite"
Yea, because we all know the average WT player has *several* Phantoms
Lol
I only have the f4e but the f4ej is definitely the best
@@sawyerbray188 EJ gets the best missile options out of all and can research them immediately
i will get f4f selling on op suffer
@@williewilson2250 AFAIK EJ has better speed and retention, E has a better turn rate
"Have you ever used Phantoms before?"
Me still at rank III after 2 years: No
Do play one match at the day ?
@@JoseJimenez-sh1yi I've played for seven years and restarted four times. I've never reached above BR 8.0 because I've always ended up losing money and making no profits
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming git gud
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming how do you lose all your money?!
Wealth isn’t happiness the most important thing is fun
Can't wait to unlock my first phantom in 5 years...
Edit after 1 month: I have stopped grinding. It's too much and unbearable. Just enjoy the game, play low tiers, with friends... have fun if you can
Edit after 1 year: go and play enlisted, much more fun.
Ah, yes! I love this plane, too bad Gaijin predatory strategies won't let me get one in War Thunder. What's up with that repair cost raise and SL multiplier nerf Gaijin?
lol it only took me 1 and a half months to grind lmao
_Edit: I was wrong! I meant it took me 1 and a half months to reach the Phantom from Rank II up to Rank VI_
Why 5 years? I am only 2.5 ranks away lol
I've been playing for 2 years and I haven't gotten to a single MiG yet
@@J0hn-MiCHaeL Is War Thunder a full-time job you pay to work at?
You guys forgot to mention that Japan finally decommissioned their last phantom only a few months ago
Do they have a modern zeros?
th-cam.com/video/wfc7qBVplxQ/w-d-xo.html
@@randomfish2054 technically the f-3 could be the new "zero"
@@randomfish2054 the Mitsubishi F-2 is called the "Viper Zero" so in a way, yeah.
Those are only the RF-4EJs. They sundowned the F-4EJs in November but are still using them for test and development
"The achievement of Thrust over Aerodynamics."
With enough thrust even pigs can fly!
It was called the flying bus by its pilots
lol but its actually very good watch some old footage
Not only it glorify flight..
In thrust we trust
“Have you used phantoms in battle?”
Me: nah cuz my wallet is gonna die for the grind
lmao
lol
Lol
use me264 to farm sl then get f4c gg ez, also f8f is good
relatable
F3d looks like a teenage version of the f4 phantom
Fr
And the F9F is child version
lol
Look up a Sepecat Jaguar :D
Hahaha
Q: Would you add modern crew models for vehicles with visible crew? Such as Type 93, Duster, M163 Vulcan etc.
Good question
Good question
Good question
Good question
Good question
“Being the main rival to the ever present, Soviet *Meeg.”*
Meeg
30th like
i want to like this comment but its at 69 likes
Dammit meg
Beware new player’s you will quickly realize why this game is free.
Please explain.
@@toddgillis3882 the grind is really bad
@@toddgillis3882 you'll play 2 years to get that.
well you have paid players to pay for wt's sustainability
I started 3 months ago and now I’m at the phantoms
As a kid, I grew up with F4's flying overhead out of Bergstrom AFB in TX. I still remember hearing them hit the afterburn on takeoff and feeling it in my chest from miles away.
Awesome
When the F-14 comes into the game, you should also introduce the F-5. Ya know, for reasons...
I predict that they'll introduce the F-5 before the F-14.
You mean MiG-28s? :D
Shenyang F-5 :p
MiG 23s
@@garnix5612 (whispering) Bingo!
My favorite is the German one that's been added a year ago, as it should ha...
Oh...
Hey, I bring good news from the future.
Unless you like countermeasures. You don't get those, because Gaijin doesn't like you.
@@revolver265 well tbh it's Germany, they don't suffer and deserve what they grinded for
@@williewilson2250 ground wise, yeah, in air they suffer tho
@@jetenthusiast6355 they have the best planes up until top tier
I was a Crew Chief on the F4-G Wild Weasle model in the early 80's at George AFB in California. I loved working on these planes!
During his years at McDonnell-Douglas, my late uncle worked on the F-4 design team. Fantastic aircraft.
My favourite is the Germ-- oh wait...
Nien
@Tageslicht can u pls explain pls
@@0xsn1pe36 german F4F got added in
1:40 look how happy he is!
What?
The tip of the tail, right above the engines also next to the rear wings
@@redocity2677 oh lol
Gotta re upload this because now you are going to be able to buy the German phantom this April. (I’m not joking, they posted it on their Twitter LOL)
One of my substitute teachers flew the F-4 in Vietnam and F-14. He said both were an absolute dream to fly.
Last time I was this early the F-4E was still meta
My favorite version of the Phantom has to be the German F-4F or the Israeli prototype Super Phantom 2000
It still is meta
@@kekdermott3055 not really, the 21bis shifted the meta quite a bit
@@jg54sayaka11 your not wrong the Bis was a nessacary addition and it's a much needed improvement over the SMT. However despite that it's doesn't fix the mig 21's biggest weakness which is BVR combat its radar is still sub par and the R3R is still only useful for close range headons. Additionally the Mig is still unable to carry 8 missiles, and its energy retention during dogfighting is still not great either. Again I'm not saying it's a bad plane but it's still not equal to the Phantoms that spot goes to the Mig 23.
We love this jet!
I want to see more F4 phantom formations of players having fun.
@@masol3726 get into a custom battle
Witaj kolego
Next add for Muricans : F-15 Eagle with ~50 air-to-air missiles, 6 canons, 3000 ammos
Next add for Blyats : Mig 21 bis TWO with a new cockpit design
Next for amarica will have to be early versions of the f15, the a8 , and the a6 intruder or earlier carrier bombers, mig 23 for east germany tech tree and russia next
@@toyotawitha20mm35 that is a serious answer, I didn't exepy that
how about Mig 29
@@kirito_exophoenix4082 with 50 ammo capacity
@@xx_insert_cool_username_he6876 oh yeah Stalin is either way sending us to gulag
For this low ammo capacity and being unable to kill with cannon
Plus relying on air to air missiles
I love the phantoms
me too my friend
we love * my friend
We do not like you.
@@thevextv ok
I think Vex is a Russian tree user with his biased migs
The F4 phantom in war thunder
Yeah good luck getting that in 1000 years
I got it.
Took me 2 months
Can't wait to fly the German Phantom which served 40 years in the Luftwaffe,
oh wait....... ther is no one
Yo dont worry, Gaijin alreasy said that its coming soon! We... Dont know what soon means, But probably it means this year.
And it's schiesse
"What Phantom is your favourite?"
Me, been playing for nearly a year and is still BR 3.0: Yes.
Now your BR is?
@@DeadSkyWT 4.3.... Sweden is a hard tree to grind at tier 3 and 4
@@jamesbartlett7971 Play realistic, Sweden is an easy af tree to grind
@@DeadSkyWT I played realistic I just do t have premium
@@jamesbartlett7971 nevertheless, in 2 months of grinding, you'd most likely be at BR 8.0 lol
They are my favorite aircraft but I haven't reached them yet.
Same
Same
I started as USAF crew chief on F-4E after tech school and was assign for 18 months before going into Viet Nam theater, then crew F-4C/D. The Phantom F-4 aircraft was a nightmare for the crew chief, but it was a dream for the pilots. As a young Air Force Crew Chief was proud to work on the Phantom and served my country during the Viet Nam era. Veteran Spoken!
Cries in german f4f
there there, its coming this year
Good guess as an event vehicle
@@ackbar4603 The sadness
I watched this video over a year ago, I have been steadily progressing towards the phantoms, and I can now proudly say that I have accomplished the F-4E Phantom II
"Goes over mach two" Me sitting in the corner crying because it doesn't in game
It does at around 10k feet, where it says it can.
@@kaimehta1022 not in any experience I have with the F4c
@@theraptors6597 look at the max speed at altitude on the stat card, climb to that altitude in a test flight with clean wings and no gun pod, full afterburner with min fuel and no fuel consumption turned on, wait about 5-10 mins, watch absolutely nothing interesting happen
That good?
Yes it does
Q: Will Germany get the phantom?
A: idk
And it will most likely be tier 7 in the GR.91 line because of its bomber/fighter compatibility
I hope never
@@Kuboxc why do you not want it, don’t want to fight a balanced game?
@@Justin-zi5io cuz germany teams with ussr
Why doesn't germany get a phantom?! Historically they did
And it was not much of a secret.
Yeah
Because Germany is good enough already
Hell, the USN, the first operator of the F-4 still lacks an F-4B or J. Both of which had different radars, engines, weapon systems, and even internally mounted flare dispensers.
@@tommygallagher5747 I`d say the same to US tech tree
The Phantom was also a part of the century series of fighters, having been designated (at one point) the F-110 (Spectre). I will be looking forward to flying the F-4E.
I'm trying to grind for one, by dad would have worked on British ones as he worked at BAE Warton for many years. It's a very long grind though :( only t3 in aviation.
Sim battles my dude
@@rokstar3178 you know what, never any going when I try lol. Always play realistic battles, never arcade. The game is fun most of the time, can get frustrating though.
Get a premium account. Its worth it
@@blake9908 got one, it is handy.
I'm going for the grind mainly in arcade. Am I making a mistake?
Even a stand-alone piece, that video was thoroughly enjoyable! Thanks guys
The Phantom was a A-10 of everything in the Cold war Era
the A10 was made in the cold war, but i know what you sayin, but yes das ist true
@@suicidalpancakepress5756 well after the F-4 but this thing could wipe anything if you add the tri Cannons
@@MegaExCaliber yeah
I personally like the F-4EJ Phantom II with it's Sky Blue Camo. Though the Forest Camo suits it quite well, something about it being Japanese makes it feel more special and close to me.
P47 family when??
YESSS!!! the pre ancestor of the A10!!
@@isaacthekim247 ...not really
@@isaacthekim247 i hope this is a joke
@@the-lag-gamerita5446 it is lol
@@n1thecaptain965 Funny he would say it's a joke, since in a way it really isn't.
P-47 held the name Thunderbolt and was designed by Republic Aviation.
A-10 Thunderbolt II retained the name honoring the P-47, and it had the right to do that since it was built by the derivative of Republic Aviation merged with another company-Fairchild Republic.
Man that’s convenient timing right there. I just unlocked my first phantom couple days ago.
When is F4E is going to get their slats back?
Never 😂
It never lost them
@@captaincornflakes6384 it did I think ? Or did they remove then add them again... I remember the f4e players losing slats in the chat
@@conorf8091 just played a game in my f4 and they only deploy if you lower flaps as they did historically
@@captaincornflakes6384 wait so... FGR2 has them also the ?! The ones that drop down on down on front of the wings? Although fgr has no combat flaps. Cheers though mate, I need to research the f4e
Question: when will german phantom be in game?
oh god they will have everything best from russia and usa
@@rektangel333 worse, only phantoms and cl13 would be better if Germany got phantoms too , Russia gets better migs already
@@rektangel333 the F-4F would be worse than any of the other phantoms right now because it only carried Aim9Bs (and of course the M61 in the nose since its a simplified very of the F4E) and cant use Sparrows. It only got the ability to use Aim9Ls with the Peace Rhine upgrade but Gaijin is still refusing to give jets all aspect Heatseekers.
@@Fl3iR Still in the long run Germany will have aircrafts like Mig-29 & Su-17 family, even Typhoon and Tornado if Gaijin decides to go that further into the tech tree.
Would have rather seen the F4 in the German tree over the Mig 21
when is the German one coming?
Where on the tree would they put it? After the f-104? That just doesn’t seem right
@@bonstormincorporated72 they could do it after the g91. F4 is strong in cas
@@bonstormincorporated72 yes i agree
@@orestiadac4305 it would make sens there since its the one line close to top tier without top tier, i would love it if it would be after 262 pulkzerstörer
@@hotelvalsinestra6380 ATTACK THE D POINT
I’ve got multiple days worth of gameplay on sim mode in the F4-E. I love it so much. It’s so fun to have the speed to outrun anything, the missiles to defend myself and attack with, a good gun with good ammo, and the ability to carry a wide range of ordinance if the airspace is relatively empty of other top tier jets, mainly the mig21. The mig21 is the only plane I will immediately jettison all ordinance and do everything I’m capable of to try and take him out.
amazing aircraft with an amazing legacy. Japan JUST finally retired them this year about a month ago. :(
They are still in service in Turkey
I love my FGR. 2. Those Rolls Royce Spey engines are amazing. Every time I light the afterburner it goes POWERRRRRR!
Should have also mentioned that the F-4E and the EJ I believe have the “agile eagle” performance package which makes them more maneuverable than the standard phantoms (like the F-4C)
they don't. agile eagle phantoms have permanent leading edge slats
@@migdonalds they used to have the leading edge slats, and the devs confirmed that they have the performance of the agile eagle in game .
@@brycewalker7797 makes sense as to why it's so maneoverable but it still shouldn't be able to pull a sustained 12g...
@@migdonalds well I’m not too well versed on the performance of the phantom, but what I will say is that the F-4E does not pull anywhere near 10+G’s early in the battle. However, as fuel is burned (and the plane becomes lighter), it can actually pull that. That’s in terms of physics.
In terms of technology, I don’t know if the phantom has computers and systems that limit the amount of G’s the plane can pull.
@@brycewalker7797 phantom combat turn would pull about 6g. its airframe could withstand up to 9g but it would require an overhaul as it would start to literally pull rivets put of the wings
My great uncle died in an RAF version he was a RIO and the pilot lost control and it crashed into a mountain side
The birth of Multi-role Fighter..
Well, except for the P47, P-51 and even Mig-17 if i recall
Can't tell the phantoms apart very well, but what I do know is that I love what came after the phantom and can't wait for it to be added to war thunder, need me to be more descriptive of it? Ok, big, swing wing, two tails, two on record each have had a kill of a Japanese Zero, VF-84 202 and 203 respectively (That was in a movie of course), has also intercepted a hijacked 747, and has done a Canopy to Canopy with a MIG 28 (F-5 Tiger)
I gotta say, i love this man's voice
I got the British Phantom FG.1 during lock down and lovely to fly. Took me 11 weeks to grind from the Spitfire Mk.llb lmao
I just want a German Phantom
its confirmed dude
@@WolferFrostByte it is?
@@chickennugg3847 yep
@@WolferFrostByte nice looks like I’m grinding Germany now
@@chickennugg3847 tho im not quite sure when tho
all they said was its coming this year and how "soon" they cannot say
I have the FGR.2 Gameplay is suffering though. We really need an Enduring Conflict option for high tier planes. The larger maps will matter.
Finally I unlocked C phantom after 4 years
Nice, what about the F4E??
Designers: how many guns u want?
Army: *yes*
Navy: gimme sidewinders and no guns and once we shoot them we will be defenseless
Designers: ok but you do want guns right
Navy: nope just sidewinders
Army: the navy is dumb only sidewinders WOW why no guns
I want a German Phantom in the Game finally
I know you are german but I want it too
Same
You already have a Mig-21
@@clevethunder676 that’s no longer as competitive as it use to be
@@thatguy3977 but still completely competitive. Otherwise you’d have to call the draken uncompetitive
Two Options:
1) Play months for unlocking the phantom.
2) Use credit car to get it in seconds.
"Whats your favorite phantom" I dont know Gaijin, maybe the one not hidden behind 1,000,000 silver lions and over 300k bp
It's a reasonable
LMAO GET GOOD ITS NOT THAT HARD TO GRIND LMAO
@@kaiserisyoursenpai1935 I barely got the c and now I'm halfway through the f4e phantoms ll it's not hard as soon as you get them
@@cristobalalvarez5491 yeah im about to get the f4e
@@kaiserisyoursenpai1935 that's good
I like how they gorify it here in WT although technically in Vietnam the whole F-4 fleet was f'ed when they were outmanoeuvred
The F4E is great to fly only if you have lions, I’d just wish that the rb rewarding system (without premium) made it less stressful
The Phantom family began with the FH-1 Phantom which is why the F-4 was known as the Phantom II
I use Phantoms...as target drones for my Viper 🤣
i dont have a phantom but ive watched people use them and they are amazing with the turn speed, alt climbing, and firepower
Pro tip: buy planes in war thunder to play as them.
*....Sometimes my genius....Its almost terrifying....*
Oh wooooow
Flew the F-4 in Nam - three combat tours - mixed it up with a couple of Fishbeds once - no one got hurt - finished up with over 2,800 hrs. in the jet - before I retired from the AF I also few the Viper but my first love was the Rhino - in my opinion the best fighter of its time!
My favorite is the German F4F
Wait a Minute...
It's here!
It should be added that the F-4EJ Kai was only just retired from service with the Japan Air Self-Defense Force in November of this year.
The Germans had Phantoms in history too. Pls give the Germans a Phantom
are you serious?
@@nemipishinalichnopls4300 yes? Why not
@@nemipishinalichnopls4300 They SeRiOuSlY did have one tho lol.
Dude I've been begging Gaijin
@@bwhittv1446 yes I get that they had one or even more but why add it to the game? is germany suffering ?
F-4J is here now
If y'all devs didn't add the vought v-173
Im ain't eating any pancakes forever
I just love how bruce says mig like mieg
Can't wait to have one of these in 20 years 🤧
Facts
I’m in the same GunBoat as you are
I have seen a mistake in the video: F-4 had ailerons which could only be deflected down. So when rolling clockwise the left aileron goes down while on the right wing a spoiler is raised. This produced the awful handling characteristics of the F-4 and was one of the cause of its inverted commands above 15° AOA. The video instead shows (min. 1 and 29 sec) the right aileron deflecting up.
Germany had more Phantom than Japan and England combined, where is the German F4F?
Background music is perfect👌🏻 nice editing
Just got my F-4C Phantom II spaded... and i love it!
Just got my f4ej
@Glenn McH nah ive ben playing for enough to know how to dodge matra's lmao
Bruce:which phantom is your favorite?
Me:F-4E Terminator
gaijin:hold up there
Would be awesome to someday get the greek "Peace Icarus" phantom modification as a german premium. One can only dream!
Are you fu**king insane? A f4 prem?! Top tier is gonna turn brain dead like when the merkava wave hit and the f11 wave
@@SOUNDWAVEPR PFM is coming as event, not premium, but it's paving the way for them !
@@Real_Claudy_Focan yes and I highly disagree with that aswell but unlike the f4 this mig21 is going to get eaten alive due to its slow speed and turns like a mig21f13 and loses its speed almost instantly. But the f4 on the other hand is going to be way better especially a Greek modification as it’s very modern. And plus even though this mig21
Coming has r60s they ain’t gonna do cr*p with f4s that spam flares all the time
I hope that by someday you mean by the time top tier is like 13.3 or something
Top tier premium will never be released. It’s always going to be a tier below top tier at max
1. The mig 17, in good hands, could shoot down an F-4. The Mig17 was incredibly maneuverable and was well armed. Un like many contemparey fighters, it was very unarmored. 1 well placed 30mm shot from a Mig 21 could reek havoc on the Phantom.
2. The missiles were very unreliable and sense I don't play WT, I don't know if you made that mistake or not.
3. Navy Phantoms never used a gun.
>The mig 17, in good hands, could shoot down an F-4. The Mig17 was incredibly maneuverable and was well armed. Un like many contemparey fighters, it was very unarmored. 1 well placed 30mm shot from a Mig 21 could reek havoc on the Phantom.
It's a moot point, any plane piloted well enough can down another piloted poorly enough. We're all aware of the Po-2 versus F-94 maneuver kill. Armor is not a factor in aircraft design, even so-called "armored" planes like the A-10 are only designed to keep the pilot alive long enough for him to eject, the plane will not survive significantly more damage than any other. In fact, its slow speed, low altitude, and weak engines are all a liability in that regard, where the F-4's performance saved many aviators' lives by allowing them to eject in safe locations rather than over North Vietnam. And as always, performance and technology that means you don't get hit in the first place is always better than trying to reduce damage taken from a hit.
>The missiles were very unreliable and sense I don't play WT, I don't know if you made that mistake or not.
They're reasonably accurate considering WT doesn't model malfunctions or maintenance errors that caused a great many of these failures in real life.
>Navy Phantoms never used a gun.
They were tested with the Mk 4 Mod 0 gunpod, however in practice this was only used by Marines and only for a very short time. The Mk 4 was horribly unreliable, and removed from service entirely after 1967.
The Navy never used a gun because it gives the Phantom more weight...
@@theorganizer1273 Navy never used a gun because they flew the Phantom as a fighter-interceptor and didn't need a gun. The Navy tested the Mk 4, but never used it operationally on the F-4. The Marines did, but only for a short time.
Q: is there any plan to add the german F4 phantom please Gaijin :)
oof
Missed my favourite... :( The F-4F early i am from germany and i have spent four years in the German Air Force.
And during this time happened to work in that exact aircraft. 38+64 flew right untill the end in 2013 at JG71 "Richthofen". By the way, the rear roll rudder does not pitch upwards ;)
I remember one time i was playjn 10.7 and I shot a phantom out of the sky with what used to be #stockapfsds .
F4E is may favorite because the internal gun. If used correctly you can easily get 4+ kills with it. That also counts on the enemy team not all flying low, but you can still do some work.
How long until Germany gets its F-4 variant??? We NEED it!!!
Yeah
does germany suffair again?? xD
MiG-21 isnt enough ?
@@Real_Claudy_Focan and no flares and poor loadouts but okay
At least give the germans the mig 21 bis
Should have given an honourable mention to Phantoms from the 69th Hammers IAF. The Hammers are the only squadron to participate in attacking and destroying an enemy nuclear reactor, once in '81 in Osiriak, Iraq (with other squadrons), and the second time in Syria. Both times sending geopolitical shockwaves around the world. No one else have done this, not even the US, yet the Hammers squadron have done it twice, so far.
why is there no german Phantom?
I would love to see the "Luftwaffediesel" in my Lineup ;)
WE WANT IT
I want it but other nations need actual top tier jets and the f4f phantom would be the most advanced jet in the game so it won’t be added until a rank 7 jet tier is made
@@kannan159 then stop selling your weapons and war gear all over the world ;)
The grind for this Jet is longer than it’s development period 😂
My dads dad invented the guided missle system for the Phantom during the Veitnam war
Vietnam, not Veitnam
The Corsair Family, The Yakovlev Family. Would be cool after all
Can Gaijin add submarines in the game?
I think it would be awesome.
Didn’t they had it sometime back?
yes but they were not perm
I think they're coming soon
For the people complaining about the grind. There's these modes called air assault arcade and Ground assault arcade. It gives massive rewards even if you loose. just kill the enemy and you're set. though you're playing against AI so be careful.
When is germany getting there f4f
Thats my question...
The german phantom can be very weak, or very op
@@장현준-w7c the German F-4F standard (not ICE) will be weaker than the F-4E.
@@ffar662 exactly
@@ffar662 Yes, the standard version would only have the M61 vulcan and Aim9B FGW2s (also known as Aim9Fs). Only with the peace rhine upgrade, it could carry Aim9Ls
Several Q's:
1. Are we getting the German F4G?
2. Can you pls model in the wheels of aircraft to move when on the ground.
3. Model the JBD's of the carriers. And add more authenticity to launching from the catapults. Sounds, effects, smoke etc. Planes are launched misaligned too!
4. F4 if I'm remembering it correct had HUD's so why doesn't the game have em yet.
5. Lastly pls reduce module RP. Give us the choice to add the vehicle RP gained, compiled up just for the module of the vehicle we're using. Vehicles are difficult to play stock, especially when missiles are rampant, when Attackers and Bombers and Strike aircrafts don't have the necessary weapons.
Germany had the F-4F, not the F-4G
*CCR starts playing*
Hallo
That's for helis
@@luclanglois9086 they made other songs, and fortunate son could be played for jets
Ejection seat animation would be really great. You could save space in the app by removing the pointless canopy opening/closing.
The Yakovlev family :))
This is probably the most fun aircraft in 10.7. You don't have to worry about ammo count and you get all the fancy missiles and flares.
The German Phantom 😉
just few years later. all f4 will retire. we will miss her