Suzuki VanVan vs Lifan Xpect
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2021
- I have a couple more video's to upload regarding the Suzuki VanVan. But this is a comparison between it and the Lifan Xpect. Both are 200cc bikes and both are Dual Sports, though the styling is completely different. The Lifan was $1950 delivered, the Suzuki was roughly $5000 picked up from a dealer.
I have the VanVan 200. I have terrible coccyx tailbone pain. I thought I’d never be able to ride again. The seat of the VanVan is so comfortable, I’m back to riding! 🙂
Good to hear. It is a very comfortable bike.
Thank you for this comparison!!! Keep us updated.
You welcome and sure will.
Van-Van 200 , LOVE IT. it's also looking available in Indonesian nature.
They stopped selling them over here. Bummer but they really needed to update it a bit.
Great review of the VanVan.
I looked at a 2017 gray one for almost two years as it sat on a dealers showroom. I finally decided to buy one in late 2020. Then they were nearly impossible to find. While I was looking for one, I saw a camouflaged one for sale, but it was too far to drive. I found one the same color you have. I didn't really like the color until I actually saw it. After riding it I named it Little Darling because it is such a fun bike to ride. After seeing how well it climbed a rugged hill it became the Gold Goat.
Lol, glad you like it. Dunno why they stopped making them. Just makes people buy the TW200 now.
Where you find the camouflage I'm trying to buy one
Where you find the camouflage at I want to buy it
The VanVan is so cool... love my 125 ❤
I considered the vanvan, but went with kpm200. I've got over 500 miles on it and love it
Can't go wrong with either one. I need to find dual sport tires for the KPM and put a little taller handlebar on it.
@@gregslair4278 it’s been three months but if you’re still looking, you can get the official lifan ones from yoycart
i agree with you, the styling of this bike is much nicer than the tw200, plus EFI ! Im looking for one of these now.
Well they stopped making them, so it'll have to be used.
I have a Hawk, but I rode the Van Van at the MSF course and wanted to take it home. I would get one if I could.
Their really nice too. It took a bit of searching to get mine, but fortunately, found one about 3 hrs from my house.
Really nice review. Thanks for sharing. I like both bikes too! I bought a KPM200 that's being delivered next week. Where did you find the windshield?
Thank you. Here is the link to the ones I got (both VanVan and KPM). www.ebay.com/itm/Smoke-Tinted-Motorcycle-7-8-1-Windshield-Universal-for-Harley-Yamaha/114270169871
I hope the review helped in your purchase.
@@gregslair4278 Wow! You’re fast! Thanks!
You have the same taste as me when it comes to motorcycle styling. I am looking for a used Van Van because I love the styling and am looking for a dual sport. Was considering a Yamaha tw200 but i don't like the 80's styling or the lack of fuel injection. So I was curious to ask if these two bikes perform the same off road or does one do better than the other? Also, did you put some fat tires on the KMP200. I'm seriously considering that bike too even if it's for just paved roads...love the styling and the price. Just hard to resist not buying one.
Hi. Sorry for the late reply (I never seen it). They both perform the same. The EFI bikes start easier, but that's about it. Nobody makes any DS tires for the KPM so I gave up searching, which is a bummer cause it would've been a better comparison to the Van Van.
Good video. Just received my Lifan and have 50 miles on it. Love it.
Thank you and congratulations. The only mod I've done to mine is the 17t front sprocket (and windscreen) and I'm quite happy with it.
@@gregslair4278 I guess eBay is best for the sprocket? Did not see it on Amazon.
@@mikecallahan7903 I think this is the one I got, just measure to make sure. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DNA0KA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@gregslair4278 I ordered it this morning. for 15 bucks what the hell. Really like that Suzuki
@@mikecallahan7903 Yup, sprockets are pretty cheap. It's not a huge improvement, but it is noticeable on the top end. It was nice, but I ended up selling it. The X-Pect and KP-Mini's are just as capable and fun.
Nice tires there 👍🏻👍🏻 #clean
Thank you.
Greg where did you get the windshield for the xpect? Did it bolt right on? Thanks
Here is the one I got: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D5XXAZ0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks for this info
Your welcome.
GREAT video! - Can you tell me, besides the look as you said in the video, why did you go for the Suzuki VanVan vs the Yamaha TW200?
BTW, I just bought TWO Lifan KP 150 Mini-Cycles and I TOTALLY agree with you about quality. I did have a Bashan Brozz 250 that I liked BUT it did not have the quality, or warranty like the Lifan. Also, I already put Shinko Knobby tires on one of the Lifans, so far. 😊
Hi and Thank You. It was simply the looks. I know the TW200 is a fine bike, but don't care for the 80's kinda look. You'll love the Mini's. I put Duro's on one, still gotta do the other. I wish somebody made dual sport tires that fit the KPM. I like dirt roads and back roads much better than main roads. And that KP-Moto exhaust for the Mini sounds great. Not too loud (unless you take the baffle out). Now Lifan needs to make a clone of the new Honda Trail 125 and put the engine from the Mini in it.
@@gregslair4278 - Hello Greg - Thanks for the reply. Lifan is coming out with the KPV 150 Adventure AUTOMATIC FUEL INJECTED the FIRST quarter of 2022 to compete with the Honda at a MUCH lower cost than the Honda. I spoke with a knowledgeable representative at Lifan about it.
@@re3065 Yeah, I read about that. The problem I have is it looks too much like a scooter. I think it would need to kinda resemble the Trail 125. This one from Lifan doesn't even have a rear rack (neither do our Mini's, which sucks). The Trail 125 is a huge hit here, and I know there is a market for scooters (especially EU) but we need something to compete with the Honda.
This video looks like it was filmed in the 90's, did you put some sort of filter on it in post?
Lol, nope. Filmed it with my Canon Vixia R800, like most of my stuff (unless I use the GoPro). I'm not that fancy of an editor yet.
How did you get the Lifan for $1950 delivered? That's better than any price I can find, even without delivery.
The price has definitely went up. I paid less than 1900 for mine in 2020. Inflation on rubber, steel, shipping from Asia, etc.
I can't find a dealer who carries the suzuki starting to piss me off.I need one so retro great part of the 70's .looks great
Doubt any dealer has them. They stopped making them. Try FB or cycletrader
Lifan has their C-MAN3 which has kind of that VanVan retro styling
Dunno if they even sell that anymore, and it's not available in the states.
BUT...How easy is it to get replacement parts for the Lifan???
Pretty easy. They have a website and some stuff you can get on Amazon. Don't remember the website, just Google it.
Where do you order the lifans from?
Hi. I got one from txpowersports, a couple from venommotorsports and one from cajun maddog.
Is a Motor Cycle license needed for the VanVan ?
Yes. Even scooters here in IN require a license
VanVan for me. Made in Japan.
Their both nice bikes and can't go wrong with either.
I think a tw200 rear tire will fit that
What’s the power like on the X-pect? Considering it has a smaller engine.
Both bikes have a 200cc engine. They are similar, but I'd say the edge would go to the X-Pect since it's fuel injected, but not by much.
@@gregslair4278 I’m comparing the X-pect to the Hawk DLX in my line up. I know I’m not going to get an abundant amount of power out of either one, but I’d like to know that my choice could handle average back country off-road trails. Plus I’m over 200lbs, and factor in some gear. I never bought a bike for the purpose, so I’m trying to know where to start.
@@leonardebron6032 IMO, the X-Pect is better than the Hawk DLX. Better build quality and just because the Hawk is 250cc, it isn't any faster. However, both could handle what your wanting just fine. You can always change gearing if so desired. The only downside to either is there (as far as I know) aren't any tuners available for the EFI. So squeaking a bit more HP out of a carb'd Hawk (carb, exhaust, gearing), might be a little a little easier.
I bet that Suzy will be running in 30 years and that Lifan Xpect will be long gone.
I doubt it. All the Chinese bikes are clones of an original Honda design. And most bike makers source Chinese parts for their bikes. Lifan bikes are pretty high quality and I've had zero issues.
Every time someone starts up a Lifan X-pect or KPM it's the same thing, and NONE of you hear it???!!! THE TICKING, TICKING, TICKING!!! VALVE ADJUSTMENT PLEASE!!!
Side by side you can hear this smooth the Suzuki runs in comparison.
The X-Pect definitely ticks more than the KPM, the KP-Mini is pretty quiet. However, so I've read (and heard), they should tick to a degree. Just got back from FL where I was riding both the Mini and X-Pect and either the valves are too tight on the mini or too loose on the X-Pect. Next trip down I'll check the X-Pect first (easier to do). I think it's .03mm on the intake side and .06mm on the exhaust, but will have to double check. I'll reach out to Lifan and get the specs for all three.
Here ya go. Direct from Lifan: Mini:
Intake: 0.06mm, Exhaust: 0.06mm
KPM
Intake: 0.08mm, Exhaust: 0.12mm
X-Pect
Intake: 0.04mm, Exhaust: 0.06mm
Bro your cat just pissed on your ride…!
Lol, what's new. Birds crap on them too. I reckon I need to secure my Harbor Freight garage a bit better.
That's what kills me about the Japense bikes. Our American expectations for motorcycles are so insanely low. You can buy a CB500x for 7K before all fees and taxes, and that bike is coming with a dash straight out of the year 2000, abs is not standard, no gear indicator, tach is an afterthought and near impossible to read, seat is meh. Overseas they have bikes that are EFI, more fuel efficient, have all the bells and whistles and will cost 2.5K out the door is the worst price you could possibly find. We get all the reject bikes, for triple the price. Honda navi is $900 overseas. Here, it's 3K+. I'm just done with being screwed like that. Lifan all the way.
P.S. Multiple time around the world adventure rider Ed March had his Honda C90 die on him mid trip. He replaced it with a lifan 150cc engine which is still going to this day, hundreds of thousands of miles later.
Lol, I agree a 1000 percent. New Suzuki vanvan, still carb, still no gear indicator, don't think it has a fuel gauge either.. I'd just get a Lifan 250!
@@gregslair4278Thanks for the quick response. I'm looking at getting the XPect probably by the end of 2024, it will be my 6th bike and I've very excited for it. 200-250cc bikes are unicorns of fuel efficiency, highway capability, and offroad ability. How has yours been through the years?
@@domenik8339 then check out the 250. That'll be the one I look at next year.
@@gregslair4278 Too tall for me at 35 inches. I confirmed it sags about 2 inches with rider, but that's still far too tall for me personally. Still opting for the XPect. :)
@@domenik8339 lol, just replace the rear shock. I did that to a hawk that was a bit tall for me. I'm 5'9.