TED-Ed yeah but what do you do when the person doesn’t listen to logic or studies and made there opinions on things there family said to do and there own experience instead
A combination of pride and anger. People don’t like to be wrong, especially when the person telling them they’re wrong looks like they’re enjoying the fact that they were the ones to tell them just how wrong they were.
What if you come to an agreement that is false? Inconsistent with reality? I'd say that the goal of an argument is to come closer to the truth, and to change more people's minds to be a bit more consistent with reality.
freesk8 That should be the goal, except everyone thinks that their outlook on the story is closer to reality, causing the argument in the first place. Also, is this an argument we're having? 😅
Exactly! You should explain your point to the other person and try to make them understand why you believe what you believe. If you end up still disagreeing with each other's opinion but being able to agree in some forms or at least understanding each other better, you've still done a good job.
Last time I was as polite as possible, whilist the other participant was continually rude, he just dismissed it as 'manipulative rhetoric'. There are some people who you just can't get through. But the only way to recognize who those people are, is to talk to them.
@@elpi2804 Sometimes what another person says doesn’t immediately cause me to change my mind immediately, but instead causes me to question my position, and then later on change my mind after some questioning. I think that can be hard to distinguish between someone never changing their mind. I think it can also be hard to know if when one set of points fails to change a persons position if other points would or if no set of points could change their mind on their position.
I actually think this is why we can only ever get so close to the “truth”. Reality is much more complex than theoretical logic. But I also think that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t refine our arguments because that enables the possibility of changing our minds and therefore “learning something new”
If only people were reasonable enough for this to matter: I had a conversation with my sister wherein she suggested I remove a flower from my garden because "it's a weed". Now it turns out that "weed" isn't a strict botanical term and all the word means is that it's a plant growing somewhere someone doesn't want it. But I like the flower so I didn't consider it a weed nor want to remove it. So when asked what weed means she got angry because that's her response when she can tell a logical argument is coming and said "a weed is not a plant". After explaining that "weed" isn't any more definitive than "art" and that because I like the flower that I don't want to remove it not only did she not accept that in a matter of opinion my opinion takes precedence in my garden, she didn't even accept that "it's a weed" isn't even an argument because to her... "it's a weed". People don't raise their voices because they don't have good arguments, they raise their voices when they'd rather fight than argue.
Hadn't thought of that. Weed is in the eye of the beholder. So ultimately it's a weed to her and not to you. That's the way it's going to be. To Felipe Hdez- COME DOWN TO THE SISTER EMPORIUM, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF SISTERS HERE WITH A LIFETIME WARRANTY. DON'T LIKE HER? SEND HER BACK.
How old is she? Because you can use that quote of hers "A weed is not a plant" for a long time to come whenever she tries to argue xD Yes, bringing up irrelevant past quotes isn't the correct way to convey your logical argument, but neither is getting angry.
@@panda4247 may I invite you to indulge in an argument where I gently and thoroughly decimate your arguments with my superior reasoning and make you realise how blinding a lack of taste of quality art, such as the one you possess, can be?
@@laquzoeshiyasha you may try, but please be aware that I was not disputing the quality of the art, nor was I expressing my assessment of the art itself. So if you want to argue about my lack of taste, that is completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
That happen to me many items, if the person realize that was wrong i didn't need to argue more, so i just let them change the subjet, without insisting. It backfire sometimes.
I know how to change people's minds, believe me. Nobody changes people's minds like me. I know words, I have the best words. I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.
One aspect also worth considering is Cognitive Dissonance People are naturally prone to avoiding discomfort in whatever form it may come. When a person has two conflicting ideas (such as “I smoke” and “Smoking is bad”) it generates discomfort. Thus, people tend to try and remove the discomfort by resolving the conflict by: 1. Changing/Questioning a thought (Smoking isn’t really that bad! The source must be biased!) 2. Accepting the thought and changing behaviour (Smoking is bad so I will stop) 3. Adding a thought to justify the behaviour (I exercise lots, so I compensate for it) 4. Trivializing it (It doesn’t really matter/ I don’t really care) So, in a discussion you could construct an argument that is both logically sound, has good sources and resonates with his/her ideas and he/she might still passionately disagree with you simply because of the thought making him/her feel uncomfortable and he/she resorts to the first option. As changing our ideas and behaviour is difficult and uncomfortable we tend to avoid doing so, instead of resorting to the other options. I would also argue that this is especially the case if the idea/behaviour is big, important and something we believe strongly in. Like political or religious views. The more invested we are in an idea the more discomfort we would feel if it was questioned and the more prone to defending it and questioning the argument. So, considering the example of the Iraq war given in the video. The thought process of the people becoming more convinced of their standpoint, despite being proven otherwise might have been something like this. A) I believe the Iraq war was justified B) The Iraq war was justified due to the WMAs. C) This article shows that there were no WMAs. *Inconsistency occurs, discomfort occurs, thoughts must be dealt with* If C is true then B and A are wrong, that would require change which is uncomfortable, thus 1 and 3 might be used: 1 “The source must be biased or false” 3 “ There were others reasons for the war” I hope someone found this interesting I am by no means an expert, so please tell me if you found I’ve gotten something wrong. For further reading, I very much recommend checking out the book Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me by Carol Travis and Eliot Aronson Or check out this video on it that I used when writing this th-cam.com/video/9Y17YaZRRvY/w-d-xo.html I hope you have a lovely day.
And this is why we need expertise we can trust in and respect. No one person can know everything there is to know. The culture we have right now that distrust experts is highly destructive to our democracies. Sure, demand that your source is trustworthy. But don't imagine that you yourself in most cases know anywhere near enough to disagree with someone who has dedicated decades to answering the same question.
It's not just the distrust of experts, but a skepticism of the information and the systems by which humans gather information. Institutions and institutional concepts of "western civilization" are crumbling under the weight of willful ignorance and the collapse of any cohesive structure or belief system to hold us together.
But even "experts" are not always right. They are more likely to be right for well established subject. But for modern topics like : crypto-currency, liberalism, feminism, populism, etc... we have to figure out the "truth" ourselves
+Ha An Pham Of course they aren't always right. That's a given. Id be silly to think otherwise. They just know all those things you don't even know you don't know. And all those topics you mentioned have their own experts, that are well read on the topic, so I dont see your point frankly
If you're goal is to find that the answer is "4." to the question of "What's 2+2?", then what true discipline was employed to test the hypothesis? If some test gave you a different answer, how likely is that test to be included in the resulting explanations?
A video about how to change someone’s mind failed to convince him that you can change someone’s mind. I didn’t read ALL of the replies, but did ANYONE else get the joke?? LOL!
I love to have arguments and discussions not to win but there is one thing that is for sure that I get to learn something new every time which then can be used in future arguments. I love this cycle.
Ted is amazing and I’ve learn a lot from this channel. What I’ve noticed is that 90% of their videos, circle and circle around the answer and never get to the middle of it (the concrete answer).
I think what's most important to keep in mind is to debate in good faith, because no matter how right or correct you are, whoever you're arguing with will still have pride to maintain. If you approach them in an offensive manner that basically screams "I AM HERE TO RIDICULE YOU AND YOUR BELIEFS" rather than actually helping them better understand something, I highly doubt they'd even want to hear your points at all! But that of course will always depend on what the nature of the conversation is and what kind of person you're dealing with.
When I see Ted-ED notification: Meh... I don't feel like learning right now... but I guess I got nothing else going on. After watching: Is that it!? I'm not done learning! Why you do me like this! Dx
One of the most important things I’ve learned is that you should keep your opinions away from your personality. Many people hold their opinions to themselves like it’s their soul.
Very true. Sadly I've noticed people are so set in their ways many times that even when using those three components, they still won't change their minds despite the benefits that would follow. But I will definitely try to improve my debating skills.
Had to watch the video twice because the first time through I was just marveling at how "most people thought there wasn't enough information" to solve the opening riddle.
I used “cherish” in my previous comment, but I should add that this sign also means “values,” which this video is referring to in the explanation of catering to one’s values 😁
an important thing to remember is that changing your mind isn't bad, your opinions are not your personality, and if you disagree with what you have done in the past, that means you have grown, for better or for worse depending on who you ask.
Amazing Video Ted ed is just amazing From zoology to psychology From space to Shakespeare From myths to Batman A to z just everything amazingly explained
In the first place I wanted to say that on my average thinking I thought about this weekend that I have so much problems yet after watching this I don't understand anything, yet I love how he talk. I'm convinced, that's all thank you
It's usually the smarter person the one that's capable of accepting that they don't know something, because those are the only ones that can work on understanding it later. "I know that I know nothing" -Socrates
If you live in a state where the descrimination of some social groups is considered normal you will know how hard it is to persuade people that it is not. For instance, try to convince people that veganism is right, as for now, vegans are the minority and it will be really hard to persuade a person to accept this idealogical concept or take, for instance, homophobia, it's pretty hard to convince people in post Soviet countries (just where I live) that it's wrong to hate lgbtq+ society. Fortunately, though, the situation about lgbtq+ society is getting better. The same is true for veganism. All the descriminations have a tendency towards becoming a minority as our species advance.
3:54 I have a hunch that the answers depend on other individual factors i.e. if they’re married and have an affair, how that situation is going for them (problematic or not, either from a moral or practical point of view), how they feel in the moment, whether they want to ‘give the right impression’ to those who conduct the experiment etc. Maybe the expression of one’s system of attitudes is contingent upon other factors.
It's good to dig up what people value and have them explain it to you. People use emotion to remember their positions and to remember who they are but the logic that caused that emotion can be dated or based on wrong information so bringing it to light is constructive in reevaluating it. Otherwise they will always believe it to be true.
I think a great way to change someone’s mind is to explain what you mean, demonstrate it/give an example, and show how what you say will benefit you or is true. Personally, I usually struggle to believe things until I see evidence
As a scientist that has frequently had the evidence to use in arguments, I can tell you that presenting evidence rarely sways people. Either they won't listen to evidence or they don't care enough about the subject to argue over it. The frame of mind seems to be "My beliefs are either part of my identity and you'll never convince me I'm wrong or they aren't and I don't care enough about them to get into a discussion". As a generalization, that holds fairly well. Obviously, some individuals will be completely capable of discussion of any topic and/or changing their minds
I personally think we should all share our beliefs. If you can't convince someone to change their beliefs then you should just respect their beliefs and let them be as long as they aren't hurting anyone including themselves. I personally hated when people force their own beliefs on to someone else.
I'm liberal. When that talking point about military spending came up, my reaction to the first argument was: "that's a good point", and the second argument: "I don't care". And that freaks me out since that's exactly what TED expected.
I like that this is not a „5tricks to win an argument“ video but it also ends with the possibility that you yourself might be the one to change your mind
SuperAwesomeCaptain McFluffyPants believe it or not, i leaned at psychology school that manipulation using various threat can temporary improve the patient sanity and mentality
Maybe Ted-ED should do a video on the different past tenses of english then. Learnt is the past of the past. The correct conjugation for your sentence is learned*.
I don't know, sometimes it feels like no dispute has ever led to someone changing his mind... sometimes I feel like most people don't even listen to the other person's arguments they just repeat what they think 50 times, nothing can change their mind and there isn't any sort of agreement in the end. 😕
Spent 3 minutes answering this. Definitely wouldnt have answered correctly if i had a few seconds, but the video did say i could "take a moment" to answer.
I agree to most part but not fully because the video failed to recognize that emotional factors also take place to change someone’s mind. Usually, in a debate, people do not change their minds. A debate is not a good way of changing someone’s mind because not everyone is open minded. Debate usually steps on self esteem and pride of the other.
Why it’s hard: personal values, feelings and emotions are harder to identify, *especially when they don’t already agree with you*- harder to form and argument + harder not to accidentally tick them off Remember: You’re jabbing at EVERYTHING they’ve ever believed in. They will hold dear to it, and so will you, so be careful. Talk and actually ask them
So, in order to convince someone that you’re right you need to use arguments that that person will value the most, which requires listening carefully first
Changes can either be constructive or destructive.. Only qualitative thoughts lead to constructive changes.. You need to do a lot of work to have qualitative thoughts.. No-one is born with it.. Only individual efforts will give rise to qualitative thoughts
I slowly realized not everyone is open minded like I am one of the biggest things I guess why people don’t listening is that they are narcissist, or have a hate for you and are more suspicious of you and think your foolish this is very good tip to use as theres always a reason someone still clings to the idea I also realized it’s Not my choice to tell them what to believe I can only provide my view
If you want to keep fine-tuning your communication skills, check out our blog post on how to avoid miscommunication: bit.ly/2mJMC4T
TED-Ed can you heart me again
Can you add Turkish subtitles please? 😊
TED-Ed did the producer are trying to change my mind? lol. i'm aware in the last minute
TED-Ed yeah but what do you do when the person doesn’t listen to logic or studies and made there opinions on things there family said to do and there own experience instead
My question is, how do you convince a Flat Earther that the Earth is not flat?
A combination of pride and anger. People don’t like to be wrong, especially when the person telling them they’re wrong looks like they’re enjoying the fact that they were the ones to tell them just how wrong they were.
Good point.
I know your true identity. You are not rusty shackleford......
Nor do they take responsibility for their own mistakes. I'm a delivery boy, and I see it every day on the road, lol.
not everyone. I don't mind if someone points out I am wrong But I do mind if someone says I am wrong, but then don't back it up with facts.
Exactly...
You cannot change an opinion using logic if logic wasn't used to form the opinion in the first place
Ouu i love that statement
that's why there's " (hint: facts aren't always enough) " in title
Unbreakable Patches what's that's supposed to mean, thief
Good point. It's why I can't convince people that taxation is theft😂
The psychologist give some surgery to change people's mind.
Aristotle's rhetoric advice is surprisingly similar: _ethos_ (appeal to authority), _pathos_ (emotion), and _logos_ (reason).
shu up
Mind surprisingly blown
@arthur11114 You cared enough to leave a reply :^)
To be honest, that's probably, perhaps indirectly, where Ted-ed got their points; it was likely based on those principals, just rephrased.
TedEd made a video on that too
talk less, listen more.
Listen to understand, not to find mistakes.
TALK LESS, SMILEEE MOOORE
•Ich mag Kartoffel• DONT LET THEM KNOW WHAT UR AGAINST OR WHAT UR FORR
YOU WANNA GET AHEAD
Wow you really sound professional. 🙂🙂🙂
Jesus Christ never told lies, but still was crucified, Marcos
The goal of an argument isn't to win. It's to come to an agreement.
What if you come to an agreement that is false? Inconsistent with reality?
I'd say that the goal of an argument is to come closer to the truth, and to change more people's minds to be a bit more consistent with reality.
freesk8
That should be the goal, except everyone thinks that their outlook on the story is closer to reality, causing the argument in the first place.
Also, is this an argument we're having? 😅
Things got really political real fast
Exactly! You should explain your point to the other person and try to make them understand why you believe what you believe. If you end up still disagreeing with each other's opinion but being able to agree in some forms or at least understanding each other better, you've still done a good job.
Pranav Limaye that's why you must win it for your argument to be accepted and eventually more people will agree to a reality than the truth.
The key is to never be patronizing or condescending, because if you do end up changing your mind, you can do so politely without hurting your pride.
The point of an argument is to offend as many people as possible
@@boxinabox6608 true
Last time I was as polite as possible, whilist the other participant was continually rude, he just dismissed it as 'manipulative rhetoric'.
There are some people who you just can't get through. But the only way to recognize who those people are, is to talk to them.
@@elpi2804 Sometimes what another person says doesn’t immediately cause me to change my mind immediately, but instead causes me to question my position, and then later on change my mind after some questioning. I think that can be hard to distinguish between someone never changing their mind. I think it can also be hard to know if when one set of points fails to change a persons position if other points would or if no set of points could change their mind on their position.
You guys are the best place to learn, you guys really satisfy my curiosity :D
Wow 701 likes and 0 replies
Imma be the first reply
Wow, this was 2 years ago as well and there were no replies till now
@@obsessiveduck0911 dam
Yes, its the same for me
Watch Kurzsugret - in a nutshell
I love that you used the ASL signs for belief, trust and value! Nice touch!
Ted Ed: Linda must be either married or not, there are no other options
Linda: it's complicated
Schrodinger’s marriage
@@zhangjoey9224 underrated reply
Jada p smith moment
I actually think this is why we can only ever get so close to the “truth”. Reality is much more complex than theoretical logic. But I also think that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t refine our arguments because that enables the possibility of changing our minds and therefore “learning something new”
SHE WAS ON A BREAK!
Cough *flat-earthers* COUGH
lol ikr
Launch UP So the sun is also flat XD?....
You need to get woke. The earth is round, but it's inside out. The stars and planets are in the center of the earth and are super small.
wow i really losed that tho
If the earth is not flat, why are your shoes flat then?
If only people were reasonable enough for this to matter:
I had a conversation with my sister wherein she suggested I remove a flower from my garden because "it's a weed". Now it turns out that "weed" isn't a strict botanical term and all the word means is that it's a plant growing somewhere someone doesn't want it. But I like the flower so I didn't consider it a weed nor want to remove it.
So when asked what weed means she got angry because that's her response when she can tell a logical argument is coming and said "a weed is not a plant". After explaining that "weed" isn't any more definitive than "art" and that because I like the flower that I don't want to remove it not only did she not accept that in a matter of opinion my opinion takes precedence in my garden, she didn't even accept that "it's a weed" isn't even an argument because to her... "it's a weed".
People don't raise their voices because they don't have good arguments, they raise their voices when they'd rather fight than argue.
Kassidar
Jeez, get a smarter sister, this one is broken
Hadn't thought of that. Weed is in the eye of the beholder. So ultimately it's a weed to her and not to you. That's the way it's going to be.
To Felipe Hdez- COME DOWN TO THE SISTER EMPORIUM, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF SISTERS HERE WITH A LIFETIME WARRANTY. DON'T LIKE HER? SEND HER BACK.
How old is she?
Because you can use that quote of hers "A weed is not a plant" for a long time to come whenever she tries to argue xD
Yes, bringing up irrelevant past quotes isn't the correct way to convey your logical argument, but neither is getting angry.
You’re both wrong weed is what I got rolled up in the spliff right here
Wow very logical
Now go make up with your sister
Shouts out to whoever was behind making the visuals for this video, it was really well done and very effective! :)
I beg to differ. To me, it was distracting, especially the objects changing shape and colour, without any connection to what was spoken
@@panda4247 may I invite you to indulge in an argument where I gently and thoroughly decimate your arguments with my superior reasoning and make you realise how blinding a lack of taste of quality art, such as the one you possess, can be?
@@laquzoeshiyasha you may try, but please be aware that I was not disputing the quality of the art, nor was I expressing my assessment of the art itself. So if you want to argue about my lack of taste, that is completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
can't stress enough the last sentence: 'sometimes you might be the one who'd change their mind'
It was “you may even end up being the one changing your mind”
@@epicgaming7813 LMAOOOOO
@@BabyJay0380 what
@@epicgaming7813 You're changing his mind
@@boxinabox6608 bro
In other words, use logos, ethos, pathos.
P well said. Nothing new here tbh
P i don't know, i just point my gun toward them and they agree with me
Blueberry SpillsInk 😮
@@trananbinhjerry6438 wait I tried my Nerf gun but it didn't work like you said, help?
And Legos
Me: Proves that my brother is wrong
My Brother: Time to change the subject
That happen to me many items, if the person realize that was wrong i didn't need to argue more, so i just let them change the subjet, without insisting.
It backfire sometimes.
Nameless: Nice!!
My brother: time to beat you
I've seen this video: change my mind.
You haven’t seen the video.
You haven't seen the video
Well, we can check.
Did you see the Easter Egg in the last couple seconds of the video?
wow baldly wants to change someone's mind
More than 75 percent of people on this planet haven’t watch this video, so you’re most likely part of them.
As usual, the same satisfaction that always comes with a TED ED video!!
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@@TECHASPIRANT no
I know how to change people's minds, believe me. Nobody changes people's minds like me. I know words, I have the best words. I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.
i think ur a joke , change my mind
Shhh
You are Non-existent to us
Don't act tough, Troll Boi
Bigly. 😝
😂😂i see what you did there👍👍
Sebastian Elytron SAD!
no one seems to mention, but the use of sign language in 1:27 is actually impressive
i wouldn't,because i can't speak (Is that even the right word at all?) sign language
The hand animations are really cool. I don't think anyone noticed. 😄
Which sign language?
In other words, think about how the other person feels. Not how you feel.
This is known as empathy!
Simpathy is putting yourself in the other person shoes.
Empathy is feeling what the other person feel.
No. Disregard everyone's feelings altogether. Remember, everyone includes you as well.
if that is the answer than i can't argue well...aperantly.
As an empath I felt so many emotions reading everyone's comments
One aspect also worth considering is Cognitive Dissonance
People are naturally prone to avoiding discomfort in whatever form it may come. When a person has two conflicting ideas (such as “I smoke” and “Smoking is bad”) it generates discomfort. Thus, people tend to try and remove the discomfort by resolving the conflict by:
1. Changing/Questioning a thought (Smoking isn’t really that bad! The source must be biased!)
2. Accepting the thought and changing behaviour (Smoking is bad so I will stop)
3. Adding a thought to justify the behaviour (I exercise lots, so I compensate for it)
4. Trivializing it (It doesn’t really matter/ I don’t really care)
So, in a discussion you could construct an argument that is both logically sound, has good sources and resonates with his/her ideas and he/she might still passionately disagree with you simply because of the thought making him/her feel uncomfortable and he/she resorts to the first option.
As changing our ideas and behaviour is difficult and uncomfortable we tend to avoid doing so, instead of resorting to the other options.
I would also argue that this is especially the case if the idea/behaviour is big, important and something we believe strongly in. Like political or religious views. The more invested we are in an idea the more discomfort we would feel if it was questioned and the more prone to defending it and questioning the argument.
So, considering the example of the Iraq war given in the video. The thought process of the people becoming more convinced of their standpoint, despite being proven otherwise might have been something like this.
A) I believe the Iraq war was justified
B) The Iraq war was justified due to the WMAs.
C) This article shows that there were no WMAs.
*Inconsistency occurs, discomfort occurs, thoughts must be dealt with*
If C is true then B and A are wrong, that would require change which is uncomfortable, thus 1 and 3 might be used:
1 “The source must be biased or false” 3 “ There were others reasons for the war”
I hope someone found this interesting
I am by no means an expert, so please tell me if you found I’ve gotten something wrong.
For further reading, I very much recommend checking out the book Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me by Carol Travis and Eliot Aronson
Or check out this video on it that I used when writing this th-cam.com/video/9Y17YaZRRvY/w-d-xo.html
I hope you have a lovely day.
Late reply, but this was very well explained!
Great reply here 👍😬🌈
Can we appreciate how well the video is made ?
And this is why we need expertise we can trust in and respect.
No one person can know everything there is to know.
The culture we have right now that distrust experts is highly destructive to our democracies.
Sure, demand that your source is trustworthy. But don't imagine that you yourself in most cases know anywhere near enough to disagree with someone who has dedicated decades to answering the same question.
It's not just the distrust of experts, but a skepticism of the information and the systems by which humans gather information. Institutions and institutional concepts of "western civilization" are crumbling under the weight of willful ignorance and the collapse of any cohesive structure or belief system to hold us together.
I wish every anti-vaxxer see this comment.
But even "experts" are not always right. They are more likely to be right for well established subject. But for modern topics like : crypto-currency, liberalism, feminism, populism, etc... we have to figure out the "truth" ourselves
+Ha An Pham Of course they aren't always right. That's a given. Id be silly to think otherwise.
They just know all those things you don't even know you don't know.
And all those topics you mentioned have their own experts, that are well read on the topic, so I dont see your point frankly
If you're goal is to find that the answer is "4." to the question of "What's 2+2?", then what true discipline was employed to test the hypothesis? If some test gave you a different answer, how likely is that test to be included in the resulting explanations?
This failed to convince me that you can change someones mind.
A video about how to change someone’s mind failed to convince him that you can change someone’s mind. I didn’t read ALL of the replies, but did ANYONE else get the joke?? LOL!
@@realvanman1
There's no joke.
Ironic
If it failed to convince you, then it did convince you.
you put a smile on my face :)
Kudos for the creative mind who made this video so visually delightful
“And most people are wrong” damn that sounds kinda savage
If I were a teacher i would first show my students TED-Ed videos about a topic and then explain and expand the ideas....
I love to have arguments and discussions not to win but there is one thing that is for sure that I get to learn something new every time which then can be used in future arguments.
I love this cycle.
This made me realize more about myself than others. I will be more conscious of this when debating.
Ted is amazing and I’ve learn a lot from this channel. What I’ve noticed is that 90% of their videos, circle and circle around the answer and never get to the middle of it (the concrete answer).
I think what's most important to keep in mind is to debate in good faith, because no matter how right or correct you are, whoever you're arguing with will still have pride to maintain.
If you approach them in an offensive manner that basically screams "I AM HERE TO RIDICULE YOU AND YOUR BELIEFS" rather than actually helping them better understand something, I highly doubt they'd even want to hear your points at all!
But that of course will always depend on what the nature of the conversation is and what kind of person you're dealing with.
„Don’t confuse me with facts, my opinion is already made“
This animation creeps me out.
Awsamazing Eden yeah me 2
i think it's very smooth and oddly satisfying
What about it makes it creepy to you?
They look so life like
Me 2
When I see Ted-ED notification: Meh... I don't feel like learning right now... but I guess I got nothing else going on.
After watching: Is that it!? I'm not done learning! Why you do me like this! Dx
One of the most important things I’ve learned is that you should keep your opinions away from your personality. Many people hold their opinions to themselves like it’s their soul.
Good idea…. So you’re really saying, stay open minded to some extent ?
This style of video is so cool, props to whoever came up with it. The vibrant colors, stop motion, and animation make it really fun to look at
I'm going to say it, TED-Ed is the best source of knowledge in TH-cam, such well crafted videos always leave you satisfied.
Very true. Sadly I've noticed people are so set in their ways many times that even when using those three components, they still won't change their minds despite the benefits that would follow. But I will definitely try to improve my debating skills.
Some of these videos are hard to understand sometimes, but they're still interesting to watch
by the end of the video I am left completely confused
OK.
Had to watch the video twice because the first time through I was just marveling at how "most people thought there wasn't enough information" to solve the opening riddle.
Hoo boy, do I need this video.
Awsamazing Eden, I've seen you some where before, but I don't remember where.
Gee, man, just PICK ONE. Are you The Awesome Eden or The Amazing Eden?
'Cause I got dibs on the other one.
Beliefs + Trusted Sources + Values
This made me understand clear
4:00 Linda is ready to FIGHT.
It looks like she has her fists up for a fight, but she is actually holding the end of the sign that means “cherish” in American Sign Language! 😊
I used “cherish” in my previous comment, but I should add that this sign also means “values,” which this video is referring to in the explanation of catering to one’s values 😁
More than presenting facts, it's about asking the right questions to people to make them think and see another's viewpoint.
Sometimes it's not a matter of changing anyone else's mind, sometimes you just want people to respect you and your opinions and let you live in peace.
Whoever did the animation is a freaking genius
I wanna meet the hands behind the making of this video!
an important thing to remember is that changing your mind isn't bad, your opinions are not your personality, and if you disagree with what you have done in the past, that means you have grown, for better or for worse depending on who you ask.
This video changed my mind about how to change another person's mind
This is great way to explain how arguments always have an unknown obstacle -- the audience's beliefs and values
Amazing Video
Ted ed is just amazing
From zoology to psychology
From space to Shakespeare
From myths to Batman
A to z just everything
amazingly explained
Jeevanesh Sawhney me who doesn't understand a thing they talked about: Interesting...
In the first place I wanted to say that on my average thinking I thought about this weekend that I have so much problems yet after watching this I don't understand anything, yet I love how he talk. I'm convinced, that's all thank you
i am one of those ppl... who understands this videos partially 😅
3 Points For Everything me too!
It's usually the smarter person the one that's capable of accepting that they don't know something, because those are the only ones that can work on understanding it later.
"I know that I know nothing" -Socrates
*these
me too*
If you live in a state where the descrimination of some social groups is considered normal you will know how hard it is to persuade people that it is not. For instance, try to convince people that veganism is right, as for now, vegans are the minority and it will be really hard to persuade a person to accept this idealogical concept or take, for instance, homophobia, it's pretty hard to convince people in post Soviet countries (just where I live) that it's wrong to hate lgbtq+ society. Fortunately, though, the situation about lgbtq+ society is getting better. The same is true for veganism. All the descriminations have a tendency towards becoming a minority as our species advance.
The art direction in this is beautiful
That opening riddle messed me up bad
3:54 I have a hunch that the answers depend on other individual factors i.e. if they’re married and have an affair, how that situation is going for them (problematic or not, either from a moral or practical point of view), how they feel in the moment, whether they want to ‘give the right impression’ to those who conduct the experiment etc. Maybe the expression of one’s system of attitudes is contingent upon other factors.
I realized the hand motions for "beliefs", "trust", and "values" were American Sign Language!
Interesting
The level of creativity in this video animation is insane
Love your animation. Best of its kind!!! ❤❤❤
It's good to dig up what people value and have them explain it to you. People use emotion to remember their positions and to remember who they are but the logic that caused that emotion can be dated or based on wrong information so bringing it to light is constructive in reevaluating it. Otherwise they will always believe it to be true.
The visuals of today's video are fantastic!!
i love how this uses the American Sign Language signs for belief, trust, and cherish at 1:30
#suggestion do a video on Pythagoreans memory tips
I think a great way to change someone’s mind is to explain what you mean, demonstrate it/give an example, and show how what you say will benefit you or is true.
Personally, I usually struggle to believe things until I see evidence
As a scientist that has frequently had the evidence to use in arguments, I can tell you that presenting evidence rarely sways people. Either they won't listen to evidence or they don't care enough about the subject to argue over it. The frame of mind seems to be "My beliefs are either part of my identity and you'll never convince me I'm wrong or they aren't and I don't care enough about them to get into a discussion". As a generalization, that holds fairly well. Obviously, some individuals will be completely capable of discussion of any topic and/or changing their minds
Love the depth and understanding of the lesson. And great animation as always btw 👍
In a single 5 minute video, I learned more about persuasion than two courses in psychology
That tells you what psychology courses are worth.
If everything else fails, try calling the other person something ending with -ist.
HAHA
RaCiCisT?!
You humanist!
ROFL
I personally think we should all share our beliefs. If you can't convince someone to change their beliefs then you should just respect their beliefs and let them be as long as they aren't hurting anyone including themselves. I personally hated when people force their own beliefs on to someone else.
I'm liberal. When that talking point about military spending came up, my reaction to the first argument was: "that's a good point", and the second argument: "I don't care". And that freaks me out since that's exactly what TED expected.
I became so happy when I realized that the hands were using ASL for beliefs, trust, and values.
Hi ted ed i love your vids!!!!
Thank u ted ed for highlighting my comment! Its my first time!!!!
I like that this is not a „5tricks to win an argument“ video but it also ends with the possibility that you yourself might be the one to change your mind
Can we just sit for a minute and admire the genius of Ted's animating skills?
Beliefs, trusted sources and values = good argument
Time to misuse this new found knowledge on everyone I know to suit my agenda because I am a sociopath... I mean... cake.
SuperAwesomeCaptain McFluffyPants believe it or not, i leaned at psychology school that manipulation using various threat can temporary improve the patient sanity and mentality
@@trananbinhjerry6438 because what we consider sanity is not really real
well the illustration is amazing and of a whole new level
Ted ed you are the best I have learnt atleast 20 percent of whatever I know from you!!!!!like if you love ted ed 😍😍😍
Edit: like if you agree
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Maybe Ted-ED should do a video on the different past tenses of english then. Learnt is the past of the past. The correct conjugation for your sentence is learned*.
Agree with exactly which clause of your post?
I don't know, sometimes it feels like no dispute has ever led to someone changing his mind... sometimes I feel like most people don't even listen to the other person's arguments they just repeat what they think 50 times, nothing can change their mind and there isn't any sort of agreement in the end. 😕
How can you change someone's mind?
Among us in the nutshell.
Spent 3 minutes answering this. Definitely wouldnt have answered correctly if i had a few seconds, but the video did say i could "take a moment" to answer.
After watching the whole video all i understood is you said 'logic', 'argument', or probably 'value' at some point.
ROVER that's why i use my trustworthy gun
I agree to most part but not fully because the video failed to recognize that emotional factors also take place to change someone’s mind. Usually, in a debate, people do not change their minds. A debate is not a good way of changing someone’s mind because not everyone is open minded. Debate usually steps on self esteem and pride of the other.
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When a boat is coming its sail is visible before the rest of it
Why it’s hard: personal values, feelings and emotions are harder to identify, *especially when they don’t already agree with you*- harder to form and argument + harder not to accidentally tick them off
Remember: You’re jabbing at EVERYTHING they’ve ever believed in. They will hold dear to it, and so will you, so be careful.
Talk and actually ask them
You will be challenged: Will face rebuttals and argument, but can turn this around for your argument, making it look stronger!
Be aware of the fact that you may also change your mind!
So youtube unsubed me from my fav youtubers but for some reason im subbed to ted talks... which i haven't watched in years
It is said that no matter how convincing you may manage to be, stubbornness paired with idiocy cannot be simply swayed by verbal argumentation.
So, in order to convince someone that you’re right you need to use arguments that that person will value the most, which requires listening carefully first
Changes can either be constructive or destructive.. Only qualitative thoughts lead to constructive changes.. You need to do a lot of work to have qualitative thoughts.. No-one is born with it.. Only individual efforts will give rise to qualitative thoughts
Thanks, I’m gonna hijack the Flat Earth Discord now and convince them the Earth is a sphere
Be careful soldier, we don't want to lose you
Did it work?
Are you alive?
I think Addisson Anderson is the best Ted Ed narrator out there. His voice has such timbre 👌
0:53 the five in the domino turned into four
Oh yeah... thats weird?
Ok but like the stop motion is so satisfying
The art style reminds me of “don’t hug me I’m scared”
True same here its kinda creepy
You know what changes my mind? Beautiful animations and clever stop motion.
This is beautiful
I thought your youtube profile picture was a hair -_-
gladius lance avila I thought it was a crack in my phone
GamingWithCheaters Oh LOL XD
Your profile is everywhere. So i didn't thought it was a hair
The blue light filter on my phone barely let's me see the white background of your profile photo. You picked a great one!
I slowly realized not everyone is open minded like I am one of the biggest things I guess why people don’t listening is that they are narcissist, or have a hate for you and are more suspicious of you and think your foolish this is very good tip to use as theres always a reason someone still clings to the idea I also realized it’s
Not my choice to tell them what to believe I can only provide my view
I’m watching this so that my teacher can change her mind on giving me a bad essay score 😂
Don't raise your voice,
Improve your argument.
This quote is fair enough