87 here. Because the country we have known, loved, and which my father and uncles fought and died for has systematically been destroyed. The rot really setting in with Sir T Blair. Older people have witnessed the greatest change, and most are extremely angry.
I was just thinking about the generation who have witnessed the radical changes to their country in becoming less white. I am 51 but things are sure different from the 1970-80s when I grew up in Canada. Those younger than us are brain washed with wokeism will have no clue and will live in a society where they are discriminated and wiped out eventually.
That's it blame Blair and every I'll of this country on immigration . Have you got amnesia and forgotten the past 14 years of destruction to the country.
I'm angry about the way the tories treated vulnerable people. I'm Angry about the way the police don't treat male/female domestic abuse equally. But I don't riot. The issue here is how people express their anger, not the fact that they are angry
I am 66 years old today - I am horrified at what has happened to this country and it seems to be absolutely deliberately driven by the political classes….none of whom are affected by their traitorous policies or behaviour whatsoever.
I'm 68 and thinking of getting the hell out of it. The Tories had 14 years to halt the decline, curtail immigration, stop the woke nonsense and get out of the ECHR. They blew it. Only into five weeks of Labour and it's even worse than anyone could have imagined. What will it be like after five years of Labour rule?
Happy birthday! 🎉🎉 xxx Why can’t things ever change for the better? It’s bovine byproduct to suggest older people do not understand the relentless changes and can’t see what is happening. Are we all stupid just because we have aged Simon?!
The reason is simple. They are old enough to have seen their country change out of all recognition. And not for the better. People born today won't know any different sadly.
And if they pointed out their concerns about immigration, they would be called a " racist" by the left, like a load of parrots. Free speech ? Only if the left agree !
It's the current rate of immigration that is absolutely unprecedented. The Romans invaded with a handful of legions, probably about 25,000 men in total. We're getting over 10x that every year.
True enough. But Farage and Johnson misled them for so long about what was causing their problems, that understanding reality comes as a severe shock. Sometimes that understanding comes with a 3 year prison sentence for taking part in the Farage Riots.
@@YouShouldHaveNoticedDecadesAgo I am home. Do you enjoy being lied to by Farage and his ilk? When they told you that Brexit would solve everything, so now they have to find someone else to blame, when I hasn't?
Most of us ‘oldies’ have spent our lives working and paying taxes only to see what we have invested ourselves in being trashed by communities that dislike us and who on the whole take from a system they never invested in. The governments policy of encouraging illegal immigration is also increasingly irritating especially when they want to negate Englishness and to make other cultures dominant. No, we don’t expect things to be what they were but we do expect the government to protect our borders and effectively manage immigration.
Who are the communities who dislike us I ahven't met them yet ! Is it in your fevered imagination , perhaps lots of people don't like you . I wouldn't with your attitude !
I was in the ASDA car park yesterday and a complete stranger came up to me and said just look at this place iv'e never seen so many foreigners in my life , and then he looked around because he was scared someone might have heard him , and that's the problem people are just bottling up their feelings and are scared to speak out !
And a moral liability, since they are people who, on first arrival, show a complete lack of respect for the country's laws and who clearly have no compunction about acting dishonestly for personal gain.
Exactly, for the older generation it is about the future more than the present and how their kids and grand kids are being treated by an increasingly hostile ruling class.
Considering this route myself as an alternative to a care home. No scalding baths in prison. If you complain about abuse it will be acted on. You get prison visitors. I could go on....
This is why! I now live in the 'Soviet State of Communist Britain' with our illustrious leader Kim Yong-Starmer. Waiting for the Stasi to knock on my door for WRONG-SPEAK.
@@thomasrobert4654 I live on the other side of the country. First thing I knew about it was DJE Media filming there live. Did you go out on the streets and riot?
When I was a boy, my family and I went on holiday for a week and didn't even lock our front door. People were respectful and kind. As mass immigration was forced upon us everything changed and we are now protesting against the rape of our grand-children and country.
When I was a girl , certain neighbours would nick the coal out of your coal shed and anything else they could lay their hands on . Some things never change .
I'm grateful my father is not alive to see what has become of his country. A veteran of Dunkirk. Then fighting the Japanese with 14th Army in Burmah. What a sacrifice to end up with this. RIP Harry. 5'4" but a giant to me.
Direct from the horses mouth, when i go to supermarkets i take a peak at the newspapers headlines, I am 73, whilst viewing an older lady said to me its all lies, I nodded, then she said the younger generation just wouldn't believe the Britain we grew up in, so safe and secure . I must admit she does have a point, I do not condone any violence, but express my concern for the safety of people of all ages on our streets and the future direction of our country . many like that older lady simply do not feel safe anymore. Like 10,000,000 pensioners i was shocked by the removal of the winter fuel allowance, and even more shocked and dismayed by the murder of three little girls,
Of course, and the working class as we know them now will no longer exist. The rate of change is unstoppable. I've just spent the weekend in Liverpool. Fabulous city to visit. I didn't venture outside the city centre admittedly, but one thing which struck me was that I barely heard a scouse accent over the two days.
They remember the great stories from how simple and happy England was when them and their parents once enjoyed it when words like racists , asylum , refugee, far right were hardly ever mentioned
@@bestcomsystems4458 you're not going back far enough. Occasionally, these organizations were talked about, but, always in a derogatory way, nobody cared less about them, they were small minority and insignificant
Also banning of smoking in these establishments had a negative effect on customer attendance. But mainly its people just couldnt afford it anymore. I cant even remember last time I went to one.
The government funds endless quangos and charities but they can’t support the publicans. Say what you like about pubs, ordinary people met there. Some just to listen, others to chat. In many places the pub was the beating heart of the village.
things weren't good in the 70s. they were awful. Morecambe and Wise, James Bond and Rock music were the only things worth remembering. I lived through that, and then the 80s started bad, but were great at the end.
@@TheWhitehawker And drug takers, I've worked with a few who are spliffed out of their brains at work, one or two are married with wives back in Pakistan, but are shagging English girls who they call 'easy' or 'sluts'.
They do drink, a muslim taxi driver the other day confessed he had to travel out of his community to take a drink because he didn't want anyone he knew to know what he did!
At 69 i have yet to be involved in any demonstrations, but like a lot of older people we can remember when this was a good place to live, but that was many years ago. Writing angry letters doesn't work these days, so what else can you do ? You can only push people so far and sooner or later all hell breaks out as we have just witnessed, If Starmer thinks he has dealt with all of this, he needs to think again.
"If Starmer thinks he has dealt with all of this, he needs to think again." He definitely does NOT think he's dealt with this. He knows there is much, much work yet to do.
@@Bezart34 And he will continue to make matters worse. We are all very aware that there is much more to do, but Starmer and his goverment are not the answer.
please don't let them do this...find something lovely in each and every day...live ya life to the full and enjoy...now that'll please the overlords won't it!!!
So-called "woke" is actually fascism which is by definition international Socialism but a useful lie applied to innocent people and a good narcissistic abuse tactic.
I’m angry that the country my parents’ generation fought and died for has been systematically turned into something resembling a third-world sewer, and all in the name of social engineering
I'm 47, even I remember The Before Times. I know what they took from us, their Winston Smith historical revisionism won't make me think it has always been this way.
Older people are protesting / rioting because: a) Having lived through better times they know only too well - and are witness to - the damage that politicians have done to their country b) They have less, or in some cases, nothing to lose c) They are more aware of or have first hand knowledge of what turned out to be the pointless sacrifices that their immediate ancestors made in WW2
Because the state has defrauded them out of hundreds of thousands of pounds. For Mr Average the number is 2 million over a life time. Then we have the environment. I went through Bethnal Green the other day. It's worse than a Lagos slum, and I've been there. Couple that with the rampant criminality of people on illegal motorbikes etc.
@@Bezart34 My brothers' been more recently. Had a whale of time. Spent all his time in the scrap yards of lagos with is mates that he sells fridges etc too. So think, your a local no good lad. White bloke walking arround scrap yards? is he a) A complete nutter - don't mess with him b) His mates are the worst sort of complete nutters So it would be good to go again .
The following comments encompasses what the vast majority of indigenous people feel. I'm nearly 75 years old and would have liked to leave this world in a better place!! 🤔
I can recommend Robert Louis Stephenson's 'That man (or woman) is a success who has lived long, laughed often and loved much.....' and so on. Worth searching for!
Interesting fact: the younger generation, especially white males are the most conservative generation in years, and you are seeing this trend across Europe.
I have travelled extensively in my past and have observed on many occasions Muslims changing out of their Muslim style clothes into Western attire then hit the booze when they arrive arrive in the West.
The speed at which these changes are being made is most disconcerting for me. Pub culture is centuries old, dating back even further than the coffee houses of London. Parts of my city are unrecognisable to me now from a mere 20 years ago. This is not natural change, it is engineered.
@@mannylikestoanimate I agree entirely. Unfortunately some people don’t know what to do with their anger, especially when their persistent verbal complaints are ignored. All those born in the late 1950’s, as I was, have seen massive changes to this once great country. I completely understand their annoyance.
Because we've been treated like crap by non native people in our own country for too long. We've paid the most in but take the least out. We're the ones asked to do without so people who don't belong here can live it up. We take their disrespect and hate, we put up with them forcing their ways on others, we put up with them refusing to integrate. We put up with their crime and entitlement but now after many decades of this we're saying no more. We want our country back.
@dave4803 You say "We take their disrespect and hate, we put up with them forcing their ways on others, we put up with them refusing to integrate." You seem certain of your claims, so please give some verifiable examples of the following. They are your exact words. 1) Disrespect and hate 2) Forcing their ways on others 3) Refusing to integrate
@@Bezart34 Here you. Grooming, The way they slag us off. They call us vile names. They refuse to follow our laws. They refuse to mend their ways to fit into our culture. They make their own ghetto towns and drive us out. They tell their people to attack us. Is that enough?
One reason, and I say this as an eighty year old, is seeing all one has held dear and cherished quickly disappearing in front of your eyes. Being treated as a second class citizen in favor of illegal immigrants. Our winter fuel allowance ripped away to fund those who have barged into our country. Before I’m accused of being a racist, I’m in favor of legal immigration, we need to have a vibrant and hardworking population to survive in this modern world. One last moan, when I turned eighty, my pension was increased by 25p. I consider this to be an insult, it won’t even pay for the use of a public toilet! Then, of course, comrade Starmer cancels the fuel allowance.
So you blame immigration for your crappy low pensions, and being 'treated as asecond class citizen' (whtever that means; can youn explain, please?) You've learned nothing in your 80 years, except that it's easier to blame a tiny minority for the state of things, as opposed to challenging your own indigenous contemporaries over the decades.
We must stop being afraid of words - I am racist and proud. I love and will only buy from and support my own kind. I am against immigration - all people have a land of their own, stay in it and make it better, do not come here and make ours worse.
What Simon says about Pubs going out of business in Muslim areas is partly true but the real problem in the Pub industry is financial , rent and running costs are extortionate at the moment and i Fear after the Next budget Labour will make the Problem even worse !
@@paulie-Gualtieri.At 83, I can remember what this, then Great Britain, was like before Lord Ted conned the majority into joining the Common Market. It was the start of the decline. Having managed to partially escape,we have found out that we no longer remember how to govern ourselves.
Once you get to a certain age you really have nothing to loose. For instance you can’t threaten me with the loss of my job. As a nurse of 43 years, I refused the unlicensed inadequately tested V’cine, because healthcare needs me, I no longer need it, and I could make a stand for the sake of my colleagues.
It is rare that I disagree with Simon, but on this occasion I do so. It is not the closure of shops on the high street, it is not the shutting down of pubs, it is not that nothing at all can be done without tapping on a computer keyboard - or any such matter. It is the attack on and the loss of our English culture. The tolerant, friendly and sometimes eccentric social structure which seemed to flourish without any rules or regulations. That is what old people are angry about. losing. Old people believe, quite rightly, that this culture would be of immeasurable benefit to future generations - but it is being brutally killed off. We have failed in our historic duty to our ancestors and to our children.
Not just older white men...working men in general,because of decades of neglect, especially from a party that's supposed to represent them...That party no longer exists and hasn't for 50 yrs at least
The two elderly men convicted, have a long criminal history, do you think if it was a first offence they would be sent to prison? Old Hooligans on benefits without a shilling to their name are extremely volatile!
Being of a similar age I am concerned about ALL British people from kids to pensioners being abused, deceived and manipulated by government and 'woke' rubbish. Saying that old people are just being 'old duffers' is disingenuous.
Younger people have little experience to go by and have been fed wrong information for some years now , as a result they think all us older people are talking rubbish . I can assure them we aren’t and sooner or later , probably too late ,they will realize just how right we were . Oh well never mind eh , I’ll be dead soon enough .
I'm 68 but as you get towards the arse end of your life you realise you only have a few years to go so you have little of life to lose and become more brazen. I'll wait a while longer until I start misbehaving. "You can't go back" as they say.
I don't blame the people who have left the country. There is no fixing this. The country has just given Labour a whopping majority. Most people couldn't give a toss about what's going on.
I cannot agree with all of this Simon. It is of course pretty normal for an older generation to feel that things were better in the past. My father, who was born during the first world war, preferred Benny Goodman to Led Zeppelin. He also never wore a pair of denims in his life. But this did not lead him to go and riot in the streets. Incidentally, the High Street played almost no part in his entire life. Shopping was for women. Nor did he go to the pub every night. While every generation sees a lot of change from the past, the seething anger that we see today is of a completely different order and you know the reason as well as I do.
The majority of rioters are young hooligans who are nether far left nor far right but are looking for some excitement. The reason an unusual number of old folk become involved is that the elderly can remember a Britain where everything from the postal service to the NHS worked much better than it does now, and that angers them, the Britain they loved has been taken from them. A further reason is that the police are sometimes provocative and overbearing, and turn what would otherwise be a peaceful demonstration into a riot.
Because they remember what this country used to be like, and how previous governments have bowed down to certain minorities, they feel that under the current one it’s only going to get worse.
Pubs are bound to close in areas with large muslim populations because they boycott them entirely, whereas normal teetotallers still visit for meals and non-alcoholic drinks.
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87 here. Because the country we have known, loved, and which my father and uncles fought and died for has systematically been destroyed. The rot really setting in with Sir T Blair. Older people have witnessed the greatest change, and most are extremely angry.
I was just thinking about the generation who have witnessed the radical changes to their country in becoming less white. I am 51 but things are sure different from the 1970-80s when I grew up in Canada. Those younger than us are brain washed with wokeism will have no clue and will live in a society where they are discriminated and wiped out eventually.
That's it blame Blair and every I'll of this country on immigration . Have you got amnesia and forgotten the past 14 years of destruction to the country.
Fully agree, I'm 60, served in RAF, then fire service, but I'm racist because I'm worried about what's happening here? It sucks.
I'm angry about the way the tories treated vulnerable people. I'm
Angry about the way the police don't treat male/female domestic abuse equally.
But I don't riot. The issue here is how people express their anger, not the fact that they are angry
@@TJspaceman Whining about it doesn`t seem get anyone anywhere...
I am 66 years old today - I am horrified at what has happened to this country and it seems to be absolutely deliberately driven by the political classes….none of whom are affected by their traitorous policies or behaviour whatsoever.
Many Happy Returns of the day...xx
Couldn't agree more - Was 67 myself only a few weeks back - The country has definitely changed in the last 20 or so years.
I'm 68 and thinking of getting the hell out of it. The Tories had 14 years to halt the decline, curtail immigration, stop the woke nonsense and get out of the ECHR. They blew it. Only into five weeks of Labour and it's even worse than anyone could have imagined. What will it be like after five years of Labour rule?
Now living in your eighth different decade.
The change has been appalling.
Happy birthday! 🎉🎉 xxx Why can’t things ever change for the better? It’s bovine byproduct to suggest older people do not understand the relentless changes and can’t see what is happening. Are we all stupid just because we have aged Simon?!
The reason is simple. They are old enough to have seen their country change out of all recognition. And not for the better. People born today won't know any different sadly.
And if they pointed out their concerns about immigration, they would be called a " racist" by the left, like a load of parrots. Free speech ? Only if the left agree !
Spot on! 👍
Well said Malcolm.
Ppl going thru schools now actually believe Britain has always been diverse. Such is the brainwashing/stupidity
That’s me as in my 60s. Life was great back then. It’s gone downhill rapidly in the past 5 years and steadily since Blair.
People have always complained about immigration but never felt as unsafe as they do today and that can't be denied.
People are talking about it a lot more I noticed.
It's the current rate of immigration that is absolutely unprecedented. The Romans invaded with a handful of legions, probably about 25,000 men in total. We're getting over 10x that every year.
They weren't old when they first started getting lied to.
Exactly
True enough. But Farage and Johnson misled them for so long about what was causing their problems, that understanding reality comes as a severe shock. Sometimes that understanding comes with a 3 year prison sentence for taking part in the Farage Riots.
@@albanan1 Go home.
@@YouShouldHaveNoticedDecadesAgo I am home. Do you enjoy being lied to by Farage and his ilk? When they told you that Brexit would solve everything, so now they have to find someone else to blame, when I hasn't?
@@MrPercy112 keep your head buried in the sand. I'm sure you're enjoying the view.
Age is irrelevant. We are pissed off and seriously worried about the political future of our country.
Thanks for saying this. I’m nodding in agreement.
@@BinkySocks There, there dear.
Well said.
Yes, well said
The future is what the country voted for, it happens every election. So what is the 'political future of the country,' as you see and understand it?
Most of us ‘oldies’ have spent our lives working and paying taxes only to see what we have invested ourselves in being trashed by communities that dislike us and who on the whole take from a system they never invested in. The governments policy of encouraging illegal immigration is also increasingly irritating especially when they want to negate Englishness and to make other cultures dominant. No, we don’t expect things to be what they were but we do expect the government to protect our borders and effectively manage immigration.
👏👏👏
Who are the communities who dislike us I ahven't met them yet ! Is it in your fevered imagination , perhaps lots of people don't like you . I wouldn't with your attitude !
@@alanmarr3323 Haver ya been to London lately mate or do ya live in a box lmfao hahaha
@@petercrane2560 He lives in a cloud cuckoo world.
the liblabcon uniparty are not your government ffs.
their prison sentences break my heart. two tier judicial system, two tier country, all planned.
Watching the country they loved dying is terribly painful to people who were alive to see their nation when it was beautiful.
I count myself in that number. I'd go back to my childhood in a heartbeat.
I was in the ASDA car park yesterday and a complete stranger came up to me and said just look at this place iv'e never seen so many foreigners in my life , and then he looked around because he was scared someone might have heard him , and that's the problem people are just bottling up their feelings and are scared to speak out !
@@JohnJohnson-vd2hpgood comment 👍
@@JohnJohnson-vd2hp who owns Asda?
Well it wasnt beautiful , but at least it had hope to be better.
700 more have floated in on just one day, every one a new liability on this country's taxpayers...
And a moral liability, since they are people who, on first arrival, show a complete lack of respect for the country's laws and who clearly have no compunction about acting dishonestly for personal gain.
multiply those numbers by an avaerage of eight once they import in the families.
We are worried for the future of our Grandchildren.
Plus there is no need to take a country backwards, and make it undeveloped.
Some will take us back to the dark ages, given half a chance!
Exactly! 👍👍👍
It’s not about us at all, but about our descendants.
Exactly, for the older generation it is about the future more than the present and how their kids and grand kids are being treated by an increasingly hostile ruling class.
Yes we are.
As someone completely abandoned by my family and told my entire life I'm a pos I highly doubt it's for anyone except for yourselves.
Because they treat us with disdain. Pensioner ? Fuel allowance ? no way. Illegal migrant ? Board and lodging ? Welcome aboard.
Because old white people are MOSTLY PEACEFUL.
They lack the strength and energy to be violent. However, some of them, in positions of power may get others to be violent on their behalf.
Like Mark Rowley, you
mean?
@@peterlangbridge4628
Until they trip you up with their walking sticks. lol
I am old and a mostly peaceful rioter😂
@@peterlangbridge4628 Bet you have crushed a grape or torn a tissue or two in your life, eh peter ?
Because their scared for their children. My dad, 77 said he’s not scared of dying, he’s scared of leaving us in this world
The older generation has seen the changes in uk with the politicians policies and law and the behaviour of the police. List is endless.
and not for the better mate!!!
They have lost their country, their identity and subsequently their SOUL !!!!
Older people have seen and experienced the most change
Colossal change in just 1 lifetime! 😏
*Nods* in agreement
Why does "change" always involve things getting worse? It NEVER changes for the better
Damn shame the current gen. Of knotheads were taught nothing by most of the people sitting here complaining
@@jamescampbell8845 They will be within a decade mate...they will be!!!
It's one way for pensioners to be warm, have 3 meals a day, and be able to access doctors and dentists.
Sadly, and oh so ironically, true!
So we know they're going to end most of them this winter. What are we doing about it??
@@Jen-mf9rm agreed...they ended our gran in April 2020/..they'll have no qualms about doing it again...terrifying innit
Considering this route myself as an alternative to a care home. No scalding baths in prison. If you complain about abuse it will be acted on. You get prison visitors. I could go on....
This is why! I now live in the 'Soviet State of Communist Britain' with our illustrious leader Kim Yong-Starmer.
Waiting for the Stasi to knock on my door for WRONG-SPEAK.
Da tovarissch. 😁
USSK
What a load of old rubbish!
The seniors actually experienced life in Great Britain as it actually was. That's probably why the kids are told to ignore the "Old Codgers.
Will Amnesty International be calling for the release of British political prisoners. I think not.
Especially not the one stood next to Ricky Jones in Walthamstow...and smiling....fgs
There anti semitic and anti white working class.
Because we are all totally pissed off!
After so many years of BS we have had enough.
but did you get out on the streets with the demonstrators?.
@@thomasrobert4654 I live on the other side of the country. First thing I knew about it was DJE Media filming there live. Did you go out on the streets and riot?
When I was a boy, my family and I went on holiday for a week and didn't even lock our front door. People were respectful and kind. As mass immigration was forced upon us everything changed and we are now protesting against the rape of our grand-children and country.
When I was a girl , certain neighbours would nick the coal out of your coal shed and anything else they could lay their hands on . Some things never change .
@@MarionN-w3d I dont think those two things are anywhere near equivolent. Are you stupid?
"......protesting against the rape of our grand-children and country" in most cases by 'white English'
@user-ugwhatever: compare and contrast: what would they do now? Some things change for the worse.
Single girls hitch hiked! Couldn't even contemplate that today
They remember the way things used to be
Becaus we have had ENOUGH
Because we have been betrayed by Labour criminals
And The Conservative members
@@finnogorman5683 Uniparty.
And Tory’s and Liberals
By all parties, this is just a continuation government
I thought Boris Johnson was a Conservative.
Maybe old people are just more likely to get arrested because it's easier to arrest them.
I'm grateful my father is not alive to see what has become of his country. A veteran of Dunkirk. Then fighting the Japanese with 14th Army in Burmah. What a sacrifice to end up with this. RIP Harry. 5'4" but a giant to me.
Agree
It's a pity we don't have a lot more men like him right now.....
They had no choice .
@@MarionN-w3d He couldn’t get on a dinghy.
@@MarionN-w3ddoes that reduce the value of their sacrifice?
Direct from the horses mouth, when i go to supermarkets i take a peak at the newspapers headlines, I am 73, whilst viewing an older lady said to me its all lies, I nodded, then she said the younger generation just wouldn't believe the Britain we grew up in, so safe and secure .
I must admit she does have a point, I do not condone any violence, but express my concern for the safety of people of all ages on our streets and the future direction of our country . many like that older lady simply do not feel safe anymore.
Like 10,000,000 pensioners i was shocked by the removal of the winter fuel allowance, and even more shocked and dismayed by the murder of three little girls,
In 30 -50 years time all the older people will have died off and nobody will know any different. Mission accomplished.
Yep. Kids are being brainwashed into thinking this is the normal and the past was all a lie
Educate the young.
Of course, and the working class as we know them now will no longer exist. The rate of change is unstoppable. I've just spent the weekend in Liverpool. Fabulous city to visit. I didn't venture outside the city centre admittedly, but one thing which struck me was that I barely heard a scouse accent over the two days.
The under 16s are waking up. They watch old British films and it’s like a fairy tale to them. They want what we had. They are our hope!
Ditto the normalisation of "mental health problems".
700 a day illegal arrivals might be a clue
because they got screwed, plain and simple
I'm 78, fit and strong for my age and I'm furious at this government and the last government, BUT, WHAT CAN I DO? 🏴
find something lovely in each and every day...live ya life to the full and enjoy...now that'll please the overlords won't it!!!
@@petercrane2560 Hmmmmm🥰
I'm.74 stay strong fella 💪
Stay strong!!
Sign the petition, if you haven't already.
They remember the great stories from how simple and happy England was when them and their parents once enjoyed it when words like racists , asylum , refugee, far right were hardly ever mentioned
@@bestcomsystems4458 you're not going back far enough. Occasionally, these organizations were talked about, but, always in a derogatory way, nobody cared less about them, they were small minority and insignificant
At least in prison, they will be warm in winter.
Pubs are closing because of the cost of energy coupled with people having less disposable income because their bills have also increased. 🙄
Also banning of smoking in these establishments had a negative effect on customer attendance. But mainly its people just couldnt afford it anymore. I cant even remember last time I went to one.
That aside, there are changes to drinking habits in the younger generation.
The government funds endless quangos and charities but they can’t support the publicans. Say what you like about pubs, ordinary people met there. Some just to listen, others to chat. In many places the pub was the beating heart of the village.
Perhaps you shouldn't spend your money o drink!
@alanmarr3323: from this and your other comments, I reckon that you need a drink more than most!
Older people remember how good things were in the60s and 70s. Everything is always getting worse.
things weren't good in the 70s. they were awful. Morecambe and Wise, James Bond and Rock music were the only things worth remembering. I lived through that, and then the 80s started bad, but were great at the end.
Muslims don't drink alcohol ? Who are you kidding
Vodka drinkers
@@TheWhitehawker And drug takers, I've worked with a few who are spliffed out of their brains at work, one or two are married with wives back in Pakistan, but are shagging English girls who they call 'easy' or 'sluts'.
@@TheWhitehawkerand wiskey
They do drink, a muslim taxi driver the other day confessed he had to travel out of his community to take a drink because he didn't want anyone he knew to know what he did!
The Export Director of a well-known whisky blender told me their biggest export market is Saudi Arabia, smuggled through Bahrain.
Three years for rioting, 18 months suspended for gr8pe of a 12 year old !
Because they were of a certain demographic,mustn't upset them they might turn nasty.🤔
At 69 i have yet to be involved in any demonstrations, but like a lot of older people
we can remember when this was a good place to live, but that was many years ago.
Writing angry letters doesn't work these days, so what else can you do ?
You can only push people so far and sooner or later all hell breaks out as we have
just witnessed,
If Starmer thinks he has dealt with all of this, he needs to think again.
"If Starmer thinks he has dealt with all of this, he needs to think again." He definitely does NOT think he's dealt with this. He knows there is much, much work yet to do.
@@Bezart34 And he will continue to make matters worse.
We are all very aware that there is much more to do, but Starmer and his goverment are not the answer.
Pubs are being taxed out of existence.
As well as people
Because they remember what a decent country britain used to be.
What a way to make it decent again 😂
@@TJspacemanspace waster stinking the place out again I see
Really go and look at the 1930s pverty , TB and the means test . You write rubbish!
@@alanmarr3323jog on lefty nancy
@@alanmarr3323 These people were not born in 1930, they were born in the fifties. We had the NHS and it was better then than it is now.
I am an O.A.P and the
P.M is instilling in people alarm, distress, anxiety and terror!
please don't let them do this...find something lovely in each and every day...live ya life to the full and enjoy...now that'll please the overlords won't it!!!
@@petercrane2560 ❤️
Because they are patriotic, British & not woke.
So-called "woke" is actually fascism which is by definition international Socialism but a useful lie applied to innocent people and a good narcissistic abuse tactic.
I am woke and patriotic !
Also because they remember the beauty that was destroyed.
@@alanmarr3323??? Ridiculous.
👍👍👍👍
The older you are,, the more you realise how much has changed for the worse in the uk
They are the ones who remember how it was before.
I’m angry that the country my parents’ generation fought and died for has been systematically turned into something resembling a third-world sewer, and all in the name of social engineering
Because we can both think and remember, we aren't fooled by the party line.
They're old enough to remember how it used to be, and young enough to actually give a s**t.
I'm 47, even I remember The Before Times. I know what they took from us, their Winston Smith historical revisionism won't make me think it has always been this way.
Tipping point was 2012.
@@stephfoxwell4620 2 years into a Tory government.
@@taffyterrier2yrs into Cameron continuing Blair's policies .
@@Jen-mf9rm … like resettling 20,000 Syrian refugees in Britain.
@@Jen-mf9rm Cameron resettled 20,000 Syrians in the UK.
Older people are protesting / rioting because:
a) Having lived through better times they know only too well - and are witness to - the damage that politicians have done to their country
b) They have less, or in some cases, nothing to lose
c) They are more aware of or have first hand knowledge of what turned out to be the pointless sacrifices that their immediate ancestors made in WW2
Because the state has defrauded them out of hundreds of thousands of pounds. For Mr Average the number is 2 million over a life time.
Then we have the environment. I went through Bethnal Green the other day. It's worse than a Lagos slum, and I've been there. Couple that with the rampant criminality of people on illegal motorbikes etc.
Yes all that way is like a different country
Ever thought of going back there? You just admitted it's a better place than Bethnal Green.
@@Bezart34 My brothers' been more recently. Had a whale of time. Spent all his time in the scrap yards of lagos with is mates that he sells fridges etc too.
So think, your a local no good lad. White bloke walking arround scrap yards? is he
a) A complete nutter - don't mess with him
b) His mates are the worst sort of complete nutters
So it would be good to go again .
@@MrPercy112 Exactly.
@@MrPercy112 By the way, 805 Old Kent Road if you want good Nigerian food.
They are worried about their kids and grandkids.
The following comments encompasses what the vast majority of indigenous people feel. I'm nearly 75 years old and would have liked to leave this world in a better place!! 🤔
I can recommend Robert Louis Stephenson's 'That man (or woman) is a success who has lived long, laughed often and loved much.....' and so on. Worth searching for!
Because their grandparents and some of them selves fought for the english and this country. Just for starmer to give it away to his voters!!
Interesting fact: the younger generation, especially white males are the most conservative generation in years, and you are seeing this trend across Europe.
I have travelled extensively in my past and have observed on many occasions Muslims changing out of their Muslim style clothes into Western attire then hit the booze when they arrive arrive in the West.
Because they remember what we had and what has been pissed up the wall
The speed at which these changes are being made is most disconcerting for me. Pub culture is centuries old, dating back even further than the coffee houses of London. Parts of my city are unrecognisable to me now from a mere 20 years ago. This is not natural change, it is engineered.
Because they're sick to death of what's happening to England 🏴
Being angry is one thing, violent thuggery is another.
@@mannylikestoanimate tell that to the soldiers in WW2 or do you only pick and choose when it is?
@@mannylikestoanimate What a revelation 😂 Congratulations for your most pointless comment yet, peewee 😉
@@mannylikestoanimate I agree entirely. Unfortunately some people don’t know what to do with their anger, especially when their persistent verbal complaints are ignored. All those born in the late 1950’s, as I was, have seen massive changes to this once great country. I completely understand their annoyance.
@@mannylikestoanimate OK Marxist vermin
Their intentions are pure evil
Because we remember The Before Times...
And he who controls the past, controls the future..
Indeed. Funny it doesnt seem so long ago
Because we've been treated like crap by non native people in our own country for too long.
We've paid the most in but take the least out. We're the ones asked to do without so people who don't belong here can live it up.
We take their disrespect and hate, we put up with them forcing their ways on others, we put up with them refusing to integrate.
We put up with their crime and entitlement but now after many decades of this we're saying no more.
We want our country back.
@dave4803
You say "We take their disrespect and hate, we put up with them forcing their ways on others, we put up with them refusing to integrate." You seem certain of your claims, so please give some verifiable examples of the following. They are your exact words.
1) Disrespect and hate
2) Forcing their ways on others
3) Refusing to integrate
Well said, Dave.
@@Bezart34 Do you walk around with your eyes closed?
@@Bezart34
Here you.
Grooming, The way they slag us off. They call us vile names. They refuse to follow our laws. They refuse to mend their ways to fit into our culture.
They make their own ghetto towns and drive us out.
They tell their people to attack us.
Is that enough?
The subject suddenly changes to defending Muslims and immigrants.
Noticeably so .🤔
One reason, and I say this as an eighty year old, is seeing all one has held dear and cherished quickly disappearing in front of your eyes. Being treated as a second class citizen in favor of illegal immigrants. Our winter fuel allowance ripped away to fund those who have barged into our country. Before I’m accused of being a racist, I’m in favor of legal immigration, we need to have a vibrant and hardworking population to survive in this modern world.
One last moan, when I turned eighty, my pension was increased by 25p. I consider this to be an insult, it won’t even pay for the use of a public toilet! Then, of course, comrade Starmer cancels the fuel allowance.
So you blame immigration for your crappy low pensions, and being 'treated as asecond class citizen' (whtever that means; can youn explain, please?) You've learned nothing in your 80 years, except that it's easier to blame a tiny minority for the state of things, as opposed to challenging your own indigenous contemporaries over the decades.
@@Bezart34. When you can ask a question without being insulting, I may consider replying to you.
We must stop being afraid of words - I am racist and proud. I love and will only buy from and support my own kind. I am against immigration - all people have a land of their own, stay in it and make it better, do not come here and make ours worse.
@@MrPercy112. Thank you for your support. I’ve seen this one despite the censor.😇
They're not rioting. They are voicing displeasure in a mostly peaceful manner.
very important point
Correct and they are not far-right as Starmer claimed.
What Simon says about Pubs going out of business in Muslim areas is partly true but the real problem in the Pub industry is financial , rent and running costs are extortionate at the moment and i Fear after the Next budget Labour will make the Problem even worse !
Yes, England will become as exciting as Sweden!
Riiight. That's why they are being sent down. Too peaceful.
I’m 72 and I worry about all my children and grandchildren. This government is the worst since the treasonous Blair era.
What treasonous acts are you referring to? I don't recall any trials taking place for such acts.
@susanmills4843: indeed so, previous generations died believing their grandchildren would have a better future. I shall die in fear of their future!
@@Bezart34ill eagle woors
@@Bezart34 Right, because nothing can ever occur without a trial taking place. Don’t kid yourself. You’re not fooling anyone else.
@@MrPercy112 Thank you! Compliment duly noted and appreciated 😊
They have nothing to lose. The country has gone down the googler
Because most older people are still able to think critically, instead of mindless zombies following whatever there told to do.
Because they remember how great it used to be before Blair. 😏
@@desres2281
Even people born in the early 1980s can remember how better it was before Blair.
@@paulie-Gualtieri.At 83, I can remember what this, then Great Britain, was like before Lord Ted conned the majority into joining the Common Market.
It was the start of the decline.
Having managed to partially escape,we have found out that we no longer remember how to govern ourselves.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. 100%
That is probably it.
Born in the 80's.
Grew up in the 90's.
Denied funding for education in 2000.
Destitute in the 2020's 😢
They remember how the UK used to be. They know what is being taken from them and their children.
Once you get to a certain age you really have nothing to loose. For instance you can’t threaten me with the loss of my job.
As a nurse of 43 years, I refused the unlicensed inadequately tested V’cine, because healthcare needs me, I no longer need it, and I could make a stand for the sake of my colleagues.
Good on you. I'm a Pureblood too.
It is rare that I disagree with Simon, but on this occasion I do so. It is not the closure of shops on the high street, it is not the shutting down of pubs, it is not that nothing at all can be done without tapping on a computer keyboard - or any such matter. It is the attack on and the loss of our English culture. The tolerant, friendly and sometimes eccentric social structure which seemed to flourish without any rules or regulations. That is what old people are angry about. losing. Old people believe, quite rightly, that this culture would be of immeasurable benefit to future generations - but it is being brutally killed off. We have failed in our historic duty to our ancestors and to our children.
Not just older white men...working men in general,because of decades of neglect, especially from a party that's supposed to represent them...That party no longer exists and hasn't for 50 yrs at least
So which party DO you feel represents you? This should be a laugh!
Discontented? Taking away my state pension and no help with heating, while immigrants get 3 meals a day, free accommodation, free healthcare, etc etc.
@Julia. 🎯
Who is taking away your state pension?
@lordprotector3367 do catch up dear.
Same here Julia! Took away my pension too. I get nothing.
older people are not rioting but they are protesting because they are being treated like second class citizens!
like third class citizen, more likely.
Police arresting anyone!
@@somethingintheair5373 "pick one."
@@somethingintheair5373 Police are mostly no n ces
The two elderly men convicted, have a long criminal history, do you think if it was a first offence they would be sent to prison?
Old Hooligans on benefits without a shilling to their name are extremely volatile!
Being of a similar age I am concerned about ALL British people from kids to pensioners being abused, deceived and manipulated by government and 'woke' rubbish. Saying that old people are just being 'old duffers' is disingenuous.
Young people think the liberal world is normal.
Young people think dumbed down education is normal.
Younger people have little experience to go by and have been fed wrong information for some years now , as a result they think all us older people are talking rubbish .
I can assure them we aren’t and sooner or later , probably too late ,they will realize just how right we were .
Oh well never mind eh , I’ll be dead soon enough .
So do I and I am not young!
@@alanmarr3323 pre liberal times you could afford a house etc. It seemed like happier times. Now everything is banned.
Young people think everyone should go to university.
3 meals a day and Rachel Reeves can’t freeze you to death.
If you can even afford 3 meals a day ?🤔
@@lsmoulton I think he's referring to porridge. HMP!
@@lsmoultonin prison it’s free
@@fjtpersian6566 True !😄
What does imprisonment matter when there is no longer freedom or safety outside the Prison walls! Starmer is a bigger clown than Boris.
I'm 68 but as you get towards the arse end of your life you realise you only have a few years to go so you have little of life to lose and become more brazen. I'll wait a while longer until I start misbehaving. "You can't go back" as they say.
ditto...we've been misbehaving for 3 years now and it does make one feel better for trying mate!!!
My dad isn't rioting. He's 62 years old. He told people about all this 30 years ago. They laughed at him. Now he's laughing at them.
Black humour gallows humour.
I don't find it funny
I got the same 😅😅😅 but it's 😢😢😢
Because there is no future in England for the English
Nor in other western countries for white cis men.
All due to the far left🏳️🌈.
1162 small boat migrants have arrived in the last 7 days , so much for Smashing The Gangs !
Yes there is.. We will Win
I don't blame the people who have left the country. There is no fixing this. The country has just given Labour a whopping majority. Most people couldn't give a toss about what's going on.
@@JohnJohnson-vd2hp Starmer never intended to do anything
I cannot agree with all of this Simon. It is of course pretty normal for an older generation to feel that things were better in the past. My father, who was born during the first world war, preferred Benny Goodman to Led Zeppelin. He also never wore a pair of denims in his life. But this did not lead him to go and riot in the streets. Incidentally, the High Street played almost no part in his entire life. Shopping was for women. Nor did he go to the pub every night. While every generation sees a lot of change from the past, the seething anger that we see today is of a completely different order and you know the reason as well as I do.
Very well said.
Can you blame them?
Rapid change
Their kids and grandchildren struggling especially jobs when they ate back of the queue
Lifetime of taxpaying then stuck at the back of every queue.
I know the feeling!
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebbOld people haven't been "rioting"! Good grief Simon, get a clue
Not being heard
Because they learnt proper history in proper schools fifty years ago.
Learnt how to think. Not what to think.
Starmer is fearful and nervous, afraid of the revolution that must surely come and its consequences for him.
The majority of rioters are young hooligans who are nether far left nor far right but are looking for some excitement. The reason an unusual number of old folk become involved is that the elderly can remember a Britain where everything from the postal service to the NHS worked much better than it does now, and that angers them, the Britain they loved has been taken from them. A further reason is that the police are sometimes provocative and overbearing, and turn what would otherwise be a peaceful demonstration into a riot.
No need to loot shops tho? It's the lunatic fringe that always lets the side down.
Because they remember what this country used to be like, and how previous governments have bowed down to certain minorities, they feel that under the current one it’s only going to get worse.
At a certain point, life without parole ceases to be scary.
Because demographic normality was well within their living memory...
Who wants to be conquered by a hostile foreign culture?
Milligan, Marr and a few others on here...
Pubs are bound to close in areas with large muslim populations because they boycott them entirely, whereas normal teetotallers still visit for meals and non-alcoholic drinks.
muslims drink alcohol...they just dress in British attire to do so mate!!!
Because their parents went to war to preserve our heritage and culture! To see it all get thrown away must be frustrating to say the least!
Yes that is a good point
Older people are demonstrating because we remember how it used to be, so we know how it should be
If immigration stopped it would go a long way to solving some of the issues.
And massive tax rises
They’ve just charged a 12 year old kid as well.